“If you're not careful, the newspapers will have you hating the people who are being oppressed, and loving the people who are doing the oppressing.” -Malcolm X
Honestly, I'm just happy people are talking in a conscious aspect and "trying" to find solutions. People are even moving their money into black banks.....I could almost shed a tear.....seriously
David Banner, is an very articulate man who I feel is driven by passion. He really do speak with poise and purpose. I don't think he was all wrong also, I don't think Lyfe was wrong on his stance. I feel it's only a matter of perspective. I'm sure David wasn't advocating on going on a killing rampage like people or the media was trying to spin it! But, rather protect and arm yourself from it's "either you or me" mind mentality. I honestly can see the point of view of both of these brothers.
I like the idea of arming yourself in theory but when you get pulled over what do you do? pull out your gun? if the cop has his fun drawn he is going to try to disarm you if you resist hel'll just shoot you and the system will call it justified. now if they do like the panthers did and have a group of armed men patrolling the police then that's different if it's open carry you arent the suspect just an armed bystander
definitely can agree with u.You definitely said it how am looking at it.Thank u.We know they both mean well for our ppl...but the approach is just a bit different.But I definitely see both sides of both of what these men said.
I have this overwhelming feeling of regret that black people wasted so much time with these issues. This has been going on forever. I mean, everybody saw it happen on camera in the 90's with Rodney King. We should've been working on this type of organization stuff since that shit happened. Now all I keep hearing is how much we don't have and still need to establish... Things and institutions that we should've BEEN established since the Voting Rights Act. We lost some serious momentum after that generation. We're behind as fuck. Like damn...Where did the time go? I guess this is what happens when you get distracted though. I desperately hope we don't give up and get distracted this time. Fuck Pokemon Go, fuck Love & Hip Hop: Atlanta, fuck new mixtapes, fuck Scandal, fuck fashion and shoes, and fuck any other trends going on at the moment. We cannot afford to fuck up this time. 😩
And BTW, I'm not disregarding racism and government manipulation of the Black community for the past 50+ years. I know how that would've made things extremely difficult for us to accomplish for our community. However, statistics show that black people were actually better off in several factors in the previous few decades than we are now...This is especially true when you factor in the years before the encarceration impact of the Clinton administration. So it does kinda behuve me as to how we didn't seem to see the urgensy of our condition before BLM. I guess before the internet and the age of information we couldn't really see the big picture.
You just typed the REALIST COMMENT.....underneath this video! Ps. If the momentum is still there come the spring of 2017, things might be finally heading for a change in us.
+morgan carroll I understand you whole heartedly. One of the problems is this current generation. Their arrogant, emotional, and entitled and impulsive, they seem to have a rebellion complex as a whole thats destroying society, white and black. They also on the flipside have a victim complex too, scapegoating almost any fuckin thing to justify their feelings. Second is the media. You have likely heard the now infamous saying "Journalism is dead" Sensationalism and even creating fake stories(Like the New York Times rape story) is the new trend that major media follows and thats destroying relations. Thirdly. Government transparency. They just passed a provision in the NDAA bill that pretty much allows the military to lie and manipulate public opinion from the truth of foreign conflicts at the local media level. They also passed a bill allowing military force to used on civilians and control all resources in times of war AND.peace.....by the way, your boy Obama signed these into law.
David Banner needs to take two seats and just relax for a while he has a temper problem. Yes this world is frustrating we are dealing with a lot but you can't use violence to solve all your problems. Often times what people are so angry about is a pay check. Be broke if that's the best you can do right now, so what, it's not worth selling your soul for.
see when you start being rude you need to take 2 seats, the point is nobody wants to follow someone who comes off like that and they shouldn't want to follow him. If you do you have issues you need to deal with that's all don't get mad
and correction no everyone doesn't have anger problems, everyone gets angry some times but that doesn't mean they have anger problems, there is a difference if you don't know the difference look it up there is plenty of information available today hello
people like you will turn a positive productive conversation into something negative,shame on you, if you don't understand something ask a question instead of calling names because your angry you don't get it
I agree with Lyfe here. David Banner is a seemingly informed brotha next to a Young Thug or Rich Homie Quan but I'm not thoroughly convinced he's as knowledgeable as a lot of people think he is.
Right. I just think that he (David Banner) is very passionate and frustrated. I stand with both of them. Mostly because they are standing together (even in disagreement). It's the same opinions of the earlier opinions as a younger brother minister Malcolm X and the earlier opinions of Rev. Dr. Martin Luther King Jr.
it's called a "disagreement" we have them especially with what we're going through! I love David Banner and the fact that he & Lyfe Jennings had a discussion about this is GREAT!!! Nothing is fake about DB he passionate like I am regarding what we're going through with good reason!!!
Not here to pick sides but they both prove a good point. I always liked David not because of his rap career but because of his political movement and how he stopped putting out rachet mess to try and wake up his people. Lyfe made a good point too, lets not fill up the jails with anymore black men...anybody in that matter. As far as social media only posting the fight between the two, well there's always an evil secret agenda their always up too but I don't think it'll work with this one. Thanks lovelyTI for the upload!!! 🙂
+LDDT TDDL I give the credit to my crazy teachers who made me write paragraph after paragraph in a correct format: Intro/Body/Conclusion. Lol but thank you
Lyfe to me.. only have the balls 2 pull a strap out on his fellow nigga. Nuff with cowerin our black youth.. we constitutionally have the right to bare arms and defend ourselves when need be. Get ur self a fat piece, legally, b4 they do ban it. All those that wants us dead got theirs.
+Ras Jammy mane...and don't want minorities 2hav assault rifles, etc cauz dey wanna b tha only 1'z wit em on that day it supposedly "goes dine"...shid, dey'ont want our black ass wit sh!t but piztols lol
whoever invited the media should not be invited to the next one or really needs to be studied this is the same media that cut off the section of an african american boy saying he will have a gun when he is older BECAUSE he will be an officer.
This shows how passionate these two men are about what is going on. I personally happy to see that we are talking about this and not sitting in our living room and not doing anything. We may agree to disagree, but this is what happens all over the world and not just among the black community. Do your research people!!! Don't focus on the argument, focus on what can we do as a people to stop what is happening to us in this country. GOD BLESS!!
we DON'T NEED CAUCASIAN-ALBINOS ! BEAST! WE HAVE OUR OWN...EVERYTHING!....DO-NOT' GIVE THE CAUCASIANS...ANY "MONEY"..KEEP IT IN OUR "OWN"...BUSINESSES'! "MINORITY"S!.....PERIOD...CAUCASIAN-ALBINOS..ARE. #BEAST
i totally agree!!!!...if we stop spending with the same clowns that dnt care about us or our communities we can have a start at gettn some damn respect rolling ..we are the biggest group of consumers... that's why it's so hard for us to get loans to start a business... to keep us spending with them and lining the pockets of others!! it's not a whole solution but trust it's one big a** start!😉
WE ARE TOTALLY 'INDEPENTED'! AND EDUACATED'..THE 'CAUCASIAN-ALBINOS'..GREATEST FEAR'..IS LOSING...CONTROL'! AND 'MONEY'. CONTROL AND CONTAIN'....IS THEIR 'GO TOO'!..#NATIVE
Ti, thank you so much for this video. You always come thru and bring the full story. I was so confused when I read the story and your video helped clarify things. I enjoyed the clips you used very much. ♥️✨
I totally agree absolutely no media...we don't need to broadcast what we are trying to do especially when trying to find the answer. I love once again how unbiased your commentaries are. I appreciate the fact that you showed defferent parts of what the media has been protraying and what people want to focus on.
I stand with David Banner on fighting back no matter who it is. In any war there will always be casualties, people that think that fighting back with force is insane are closed minded and can't see the bigger picture. There can never be a Martin without Malcolm (the yin and yang) Now, let's think how can we the suffering people get each other to understand how real it is for us to stick together? I think we can all agree that it's going to take bold sacrifices and what is more bolder then the sacrifice of "life". (now on this next point its going to cause controversy) see we the people can't seem to get it, that we are at war with a world that never intended for us to wake up. They never in a million years would of thought that we would be able to break the sleeping spell and for the most part they were right. that's why some of us have to die so you can understand that your money should be in a black bank (sad but true); that's why some of us have to go to the extreme for you to get off your ass and do something; and that's why i'm am never against "Fighting Back" big up's to David Banner and Lyfe Jennings - unity is the key Love from the Blackman's Truth
So u somehow think killing cops will somehow change their view on us? You think taking their lives will somehow change the bias some view us in? Shooting and killing people will not change that. An until you understand that you will never change their view on you.
it's not about changing their views it's about changing our views on how we allow ourselves to be mistreated by continuing to give this system of white supremacy our money. And if it take for some of us to kill cops for you to understand this then this is what we have to do. wake up Sister, Queen, and Mother we are at war. Love from the Blackman's Truth
+Tajuan Russell LMAO ppl like u are the reason things will never change. if you are willing to kill a cop at a moment's notice for no reason why shouldn't they be on alert when they pull a black person over? how are they to know if it's me a person who will comply with a smile or you who will pull a gun on them just for being a cop. killing isn't gonna get u anywhere. an it's sad that you somehow think it will help black people in anyway. it's sad we have to help them see we are not all people ready to kill them. we have to change the laws an systems that stop others from reaching. their full potential. not go out an kill innocent people for no reason
it says in the constitution we can defend against unlawful arrest.. anyone who tells you different is scared to fight and would rather just be slaughtered
+Xavier Zee lmao so it's better to kill a officer because you think you're right about him arresting you unlawfully? you some how think you won't be brought up on murder charges?
im so glad you put the full story out there! Ti..that's real research and see how we can change things when we all stand 👫👫 against something "TOGETHER"...look how the media hurried to re-do that story!😂😂😂....Now If WE CAN ONLY KEEP THAT UP😏!!!..IMAGINE👫👫 ( SOCIAL MEDIA) WHERE HAVE YOU BEEN....SEE HOW FAST NEWS TRAVELS NOW!!!!👥
The problems in our community are much deeper in 2016 than police killing our people. What about the many fatherless homes we have, or the increase of grandmothers in their 30's? What about the drugs that are running rampant through our communities? What about the violence between our people? Where are our children that are getting serious about education? I don't care what goes on in anyone else's community, I want us to get our ish straight. If we can't value our own lives, our children/families/future, why in the hell would anyone else? Yes, we have a right to bear arms. We have a right to protect ourselves, but why is it we only come together in times like this? I love when we come together to fight oppression, but when are we going to stop fighting each other? Even if our men and women could walk down the street and not be a target to law enforcement, we still run the risk of being targets to each other. How do we solve that?
+Andrea it's amazing how you feel that I don't know my history, where in this did I say that? At the end of the day, we all have decisions we must make. I know how families were ripped apart in Slavery times. With that said, when are we going to realize that we are keeping ourselves shackled in our minds with the things we are DECIDING to do today? I'm not talking about what is happening on the street with our people and cops, I'm talking about the decision to take care of our children over not. The decision to fight to have the violence out of our streets, when we don't trust the cops to do it. We have the power to change some things that happen between OUR closed doors. Exactly what does that have to do with not knowing my history? Exactly what does me saying that we have the power to ensure that our children get their education have to do with me not knowing my history? We used to ensure our kids knew how to read and take pride in it.
+Andrea we knew that they used to sell our babies, kill our men, and rape our women, so why do we allow our own people to do the same today? What does this statement have to do with me or knowing history? Why are we doing to ourselves what THEY did to us? Where and why is this ok? Why are we ripping each other apart? Why are our men talking down to our black women and thinking they aren't wife material? Why are our black women calling each other "bitches," not valuing the beauty in their brown skin, and allowing our men to use their bodies for any and everything but not to make them a wife? What does that have to do with not knowing history? I love my history because it shows just how strong my people are, how resilient we can be. How we have been able to love ourselves and take care of our people when others wouldn't take care of us. From what I'm seeing, there are plenty of people that forget THAT part of history and refuse to better themselves.
+Carla Harris growing up my parents would always say that you are the people you hang around. I agree that when you understand where your problems are coming from, you must stay away. Investing in black banks, in my opinion, isn't a bad thing. We have to ensure that these banks stay true and expose the fraud in them when we learn of it. Honestly, it's no different from the other larger "whiter" banks out there. There is corruption everywhere, but in our community we need to learn to call it out for what it is and not get mad when the truth is exposed. Same for HBCU's. We can't allow these schools to be run into the ground. We have to call out and expose the corruption and be willing to fix what has happened to restore their value. I've never understood why having a different opinion leads to name calling, either you agree or you don't. Must be people with small brains and an even smaller vocabulary.
+L MG The thing is history have a problem repeating itself. What you have posted was spot on🙌🏿. But I have a cousin who went out looking for a job, his girlfriend did as well. They went to a private own warehouse and start to fill out application that was given to them by one of the lady's at the front desk. So they decided to sit in the facility to fill out their apps. One of the supervisor of the plant came and told them they didn't have to finish filling out the apps, and asked them to hand the apps to him. They did as he asked, and what the man did was rip the apps up in front of them and threw them in the trash. A person cannot get a job if they cannot get hired. Most businesses in areas are white own, that do not have nothing to do with being lazy. But I do apology for jumping the gun and assuming.
What I really appreciate about your page is that you do your homework. You show all sides and are in depth with your research. Share your opinion but dont impose it on others. Your channel is really something worth sharing and mentioning so thank you - your new subscriber
see, T, this is why I fucks with you! you always have the full receipts instead of the bs mainstream hype. you put all the info out and I appreciate that greatly! I also feel like this was an event that the news shouldn't have been let into.
Good Video Lovelyti!...Got me interested in seeing the whole thing!...We definitely need to quit inviting our Rivalries to our Family meetings! Why do we continue to do the same backwards actions year after year? In order for us to make change...first we have to CHANGE and DO SOMETHING DIFFERENT!...
Ti you are consistent and you stand behind your truth whether anyone agrees or not and that must be respected. Thank you for what you do I rather watch you and get my info from online forums because its less bias keep on doing you!
Confusion and misunderstanding of our plight. Too many times we struggle in creating strategies on how to tackle our problems. Let the struggle continue.
At this point, I agree with both. Life is being realistic and saying picking up a gun will make it worse=true....But, David had a point about fighting back because we will not be respected if we don't, people respect fear. I think if we put the two together we should hurt them financially by boycotting stores, athletic events and not buying expensive items.
"We will be civil and peaceful with you long as you remain the same with us but make no mistake we will begin to arm or defend ourselves against injustice or abuse when needed..." Huey Newton...
There is nothing wrong with arming yourself responsibly ! Decons for Defense , Black Panther Party . Black people being unarmed economically, mentally and physically is killing us !
I haven't even finished the video. But I just have to say this. This wasn't a fight, it was a heated debate. Next both these guys opinions hold merit. Banner isn't saying get guns to go after the police. He's saying get one to protect yourself and family. Just like police officers do. They have the right to kill someone if they fear for their lives. Those same rights also apply to the citizens. If they feel their lives are in danger and fear for their lives by the police. They have the right to defend themselves. By any means necessary. Police or not. If those rules don't apply to the police. That just shows they're above the law and can do as they please. Because it's ok for police to kill in self defense, But we can't kill a police officer when it's self defense. Even if we fear for our lives.
We need to be holding these politicians, police Dept, Mayors & Governors of the City responsible by hitting them in their pockets, administrative leave with no pay!!, million dollar fines need to be handed out!!!! PERIOD. When you affect their lifestyles, affect their families then & ONLY then will they learn!!!
just now getting this story.....team lyfe!!!! love for ALL....and love david banner and this whole message the meeting is sending..............................................making me think...over all
Wow...."The Struggle Continue's",These issue's are deeply embedded in are Culture, ever since "The Original Man has been Lost in this Wilderness of North America".....I love the Fact that Our entertainers (Some of the richest Africans in America), have gathered In a positive setting and are discussing the Issues that need to be discussed....I love the passion It shows that they both Care !!!
Honestly I do understand the emotions from both side's. However their only holding the police accountable. When they should be holding congress responsible. Beyonce wasn't being stupid when she said call your congressmen and ask for change. Their the one's that pass the law and can really breath down the police department's neck and say "get your shit together or we cut your fundings and fire you" So yes I do agree that going out and killing law enforcement officer's is a bad idea. Because then that gives them the green light to call in the army and believe me your not going to win against the army. No matter how many guns you have. So yes protesting, especially early morning when people have to get to work. to open their business, when judges, congressman, police chief ect.have to get to work is smart. opening up and supporting black business and boycotting.
I'm learning so much about this code hands on because from school and work I'm dealing with racism. this code way of racism is a loop hole to get away with racism because by law you have to prove it, but you can't. so it makes it completely legal to be racism this way.
I feel like what David Banner was trying to get at was what Malcolm X and the Black Panthers were trying to teach. Arm ourselves for protection. Only be violent when necessary. Now, idk how effective that'll be now since Philando and Alton were both armed but not having their weapons drawn yet they were killed anyway. It's just annoying that people like to twist words around when some militant black people say that we need to arm ourselves but the other side says that we can't fight violence with violence (which I think is even worse, imo) when sometimes violence gets the message across.
I respect both opinions and love the passion behind both men on our plight. I, personally, think that arming ourselves is not the solution. Some ppl already have guns and Philando had a license to carry and still was murdered. A gun cannot change the way a person thinks in their minds and hearts. I pray Black lives are respected and valued as well as the division that has broaden in our country decrease. A nation divided cannot stand. I am grateful that they had the townhall meeting and I agree the media should not have been there. Thanks LovelyTi for your commentary!
Love this vid,both guys had valid points,but we all need to come together as human beings and come up with a solution.I'm getting fed up with all the killings.
We are in some dangerous days. And if a celebrity makes a statement instructing people to arm themselves, Hell yeah the media will play that on a loop until the next thing happens. Makes them feel better about what has and is happening.
I think they both present valid points. I see nothing wrong with arming yourself in the event it is needed for protection, however it is completely insane to think that taking the fight to police is a solution to the problem. As a people, Blacks have ALL of what's needed to develop thriving communities. There are just as many AfAm doctors, lawyers, politicians, engineers, scientists, creatives, etc., who can provide the wisdom and knowledge needed to lay the foundation. The question is as Banner presented, who is willing to sever ties with our oppressors and sacrifice what is needed to pull this all together. There is always some chaos before order, so arguments are to be expected. Building OUR OWN is so crucial right now, and this "war" is a distraction to keep us off task. TI I am thoroughly impressed with how you cover issues. Keep doing what you do. Peace and blessings.
by the way, the FULL VIDEO is called 'STRATEGY FOR CHANGE TOWN HALL MEETING' and it'z on the youtube channel 'EXTRA REGULAR FILMS'. it'z been up since july 12, and ironically, the so called "fight" between banner and lyfe has been COMPLETELY edited out.
Keeping our integrity is a must is what I believe Jennings is passionately expressing. Hopefully Banner was trying to passionately express the importance of us arming ourselves with wisdom and knowledge to fight with as King taught us. Be a glorious blessing of todays matter, not more of a curse.
good for all of those who forced the station to broadcast more about the meeting. that very same concentrated focused attention can affect change in many other areas
My personal opinion - No, I DO NOT want to see anymore of my brothers and sisters locked up. Although I DO believe that more black people should LEGALLY bare arms. It's a right that we should exercise. I DO NOT agree with fighting officers or anyone else out of rage or anger. I DO feel that we should take a stand and support more black owned business. And CREATE more black owned business❣️
First Let me say I think you are a very intelligent Clear Objective Minded Person. I love the video and your commentary. I do not think we should pick up arms as an answer I do believe we should defend our lives.
Real talk sister queen. We / our people know their tactics and as soon as we stop listening ro them we need to focus on each other. We have to defend ourselves period. Nothung irresponsible about defending / protecting your family / people. Do we think their is manhood without the defense of our nation?
I absolutely love your show and this just brought me back to a heated argument that me and my husband had over the issues we face as Black women and men in America. I stood firm in that i do not hate white people i am not a racist or prejudice. I am also not blind to how far back as people we are and the need for answer that have been long overdue. And when i say answers i mean the question people have been asking for over 100 years. What are we going to do? Only we as people can answer this question and if we continue to look to our government for answers we will continue to wait in vain. Like i explained to my husband we can not continue to blame the white man because that is an excuse which has no action, In order for us to move forward we need to continue to educate our selves and our youth to create opportunities and environments where our people can flourish. And with all things there will always be rotten apples in the bunch but we can not allow that to distract us. Like Malcom X said we must educate our selves to prevent mental enslavement. Because with education and knowledge comes power and it is up to us to use that power to advance our people. But i am not blind to the affects our en-slavers have had upon us as a race nor will i ever forget. But it also brings me to say this Humans are greedy and with greed comes betrayal. Only when our people and all people remove hate and envious thoughts will we as children of god be able to receive our true blessing and move forward in peace as a society. Since the beginning of time we have craved what is not for us and that is what continues to lead us down a slippery slope. If you are looking for peace in the world i will say this I believe will never come. I pray that we as a people can find a way to manifest in a society as such. Like the Lotus even we as a race can bloom in mud.
I'm just glad someone stood up and told David banner he sounds crazy! All of these pro blacks promoting violence need to be condemned. They're making fools of themselves.
Shoshinaki Hmmm, your whole statement is a mess, but i'm not gonna explain to you why, because it would be too long, a waste of everybody's time and you probably would ignore all I say and comeback with something very weak.
always wanted to say i like how you show the evidence (videos, tweets, etc) instead of just gossiping about
thank you so much, i'm glad you appreciate the work i put in to my videos!!
+lovelyti2002 I appreciate you as well. You are very informative and on point
agreed
no problem, maybe one day you can come to an event in LA and network ! Im apart of Snoop Dogg's LBC MOVEMENT / DOGGYSTYLE RECORDS
+BlackWoman Awakening truu
“If you're not careful, the newspapers will have you hating the people who are being oppressed, and loving the people who are doing the oppressing.” -Malcolm X
Honestly, I'm just happy people are talking in a conscious aspect and "trying" to find solutions. People are even moving their money into black banks.....I could almost shed a tear.....seriously
yaaasz!
Speak on it!
Who are "Black banks ?"
Black owned banks, here is the link to find one in your area:blackoutcoalition.org/black-u-s-banks
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Thanks
Ti is giving us this 3 peat and I'm loving it.. Thanks for your commentary
I know right!
David Banner, is an very articulate man who I feel is driven by passion. He really do speak with poise and purpose. I don't think he was all wrong also, I don't think Lyfe was wrong on his stance. I feel it's only a matter of perspective. I'm sure David wasn't advocating on going on a killing rampage like people or the media was trying to spin it! But, rather protect and arm yourself from it's "either you or me" mind mentality. I honestly can see the point of view of both of these brothers.
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well said!!
I like the idea of arming yourself in theory but when you get pulled over what do you do? pull out your gun? if the cop has his fun drawn he is going to try to disarm you if you resist hel'll just shoot you and the system will call it justified. now if they do like the panthers did and have a group of armed men patrolling the police then that's different if it's open carry you arent the suspect just an armed bystander
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definitely can agree with u.You definitely said it how am looking at it.Thank u.We know they both mean well for our ppl...but the approach is just a bit different.But I definitely see both sides of both of what these men said.
I have this overwhelming feeling of regret that black people wasted so much time with these issues. This has been going on forever. I mean, everybody saw it happen on camera in the 90's with Rodney King. We should've been working on this type of organization stuff since that shit happened. Now all I keep hearing is how much we don't have and still need to establish... Things and institutions that we should've BEEN established since the Voting Rights Act. We lost some serious momentum after that generation. We're behind as fuck. Like damn...Where did the time go? I guess this is what happens when you get distracted though. I desperately hope we don't give up and get distracted this time. Fuck Pokemon Go, fuck Love & Hip Hop: Atlanta, fuck new mixtapes, fuck Scandal, fuck fashion and shoes, and fuck any other trends going on at the moment. We cannot afford to fuck up this time. 😩
And BTW, I'm not disregarding racism and government manipulation of the Black community for the past 50+ years. I know how that would've made things extremely difficult for us to accomplish for our community. However, statistics show that black people were actually better off in several factors in the previous few decades than we are now...This is especially true when you factor in the years before the encarceration impact of the Clinton administration. So it does kinda behuve me as to how we didn't seem to see the urgensy of our condition before BLM. I guess before the internet and the age of information we couldn't really see the big picture.
You just typed the REALIST COMMENT.....underneath this video!
Ps. If the momentum is still there come the spring of 2017, things might be finally heading for a change in us.
+morgan carroll I understand you whole heartedly.
One of the problems is this current generation. Their arrogant, emotional, and entitled and impulsive, they seem to have a rebellion complex as a whole thats destroying society, white and black. They also on the flipside have a victim complex too, scapegoating almost any fuckin thing to justify their feelings.
Second is the media. You have likely heard the now infamous saying "Journalism is dead" Sensationalism and even creating fake stories(Like the New York Times rape story) is the new trend that major media follows and thats destroying relations.
Thirdly. Government transparency. They just passed a provision in the NDAA bill that pretty much allows the military to lie and manipulate public opinion from the truth of foreign conflicts at the local media level. They also passed a bill allowing military force to used on civilians and control all resources in times of war AND.peace.....by the way, your boy Obama signed these into law.
*WORD.*
Morgan Carroll mane... u awready kno
David Banner seems frustrated and emotionally drained that's all..
Being born, raised and terrorized by racism/white supremacy will do that to you.
David Banner needs to take two seats and just relax for a while he has a temper problem. Yes this world is frustrating we are dealing with a lot but you can't use violence to solve all your problems. Often times what people are so angry about is a pay check. Be broke if that's the best you can do right now, so what, it's not worth selling your soul for.
see when you start being rude you need to take 2 seats, the point is nobody wants to follow someone who comes off like that and they shouldn't want to follow him. If you do you have issues you need to deal with that's all don't get mad
and correction no everyone doesn't have anger problems, everyone gets angry some times but that doesn't mean they have anger problems, there is a difference if you don't know the difference look it up there is plenty of information available today hello
people like you will turn a positive productive conversation into something negative,shame on you, if you don't understand something ask a question instead of calling names because your angry you don't get it
Ummm...wasn't someone shot and killed by the police and he was armed and legally so? Being armed doesn't seemed to protect anyone.
+Overused Meme u act as if he had shot the officer he would have just gotten away scot free.
Simply having the weapon is nothing, but having a strategy is.
Organization is key.
Lyfe is right though. We just be creating more drama with weapons and he should know; he did time way back when.
we was literally hunted like animals on a global scale for centuries that's still our position today
💯💯💯different time frame same game
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#Ti u stay giving us the REAL TEA🍵🙊 Thank u Boo💋
you're welcome and thanks for watching love!
+lovelyti2002 yes do but we need set something up so we can talk text or whatever i would like to go on a date with you ...my woman crush everyday
+lovelyti2002 you already know they just gonna focus on showing any parts where black men can be portrayed in a violent light. Smh
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right
I agree with Both.... And the mainstream media should not have been there. David has spoke against this before.
I agree with Lyfe here. David Banner is a seemingly informed brotha next to a Young Thug or Rich Homie Quan but I'm not thoroughly convinced he's as knowledgeable as a lot of people think he is.
Right. I just think that he (David Banner) is very passionate and frustrated. I stand with both of them. Mostly because they are standing together (even in disagreement). It's the same opinions of the earlier opinions as a younger brother minister Malcolm X and the earlier opinions of Rev. Dr. Martin Luther King Jr.
exactly
go to one of his lectures since you thinks he's not knowledgeable. the man got knowledge we all need to get on
+mrroderickp No, that's okay.
he is very knowledgeable and intelligent
it's called a "disagreement" we have them especially with what we're going through! I love David Banner and the fact that he & Lyfe Jennings had a discussion about this is GREAT!!! Nothing is fake about DB he passionate like I am regarding what we're going through with good reason!!!
Not here to pick sides but they both prove a good point. I always liked David not because of his rap career but because of his political movement and how he stopped putting out rachet mess to try and wake up his people. Lyfe made a good point too, lets not fill up the jails with anymore black men...anybody in that matter. As far as social media only posting the fight between the two, well there's always an evil secret agenda their always up too but I don't think it'll work with this one. Thanks lovelyTI for the upload!!! 🙂
this whole paragraph was well put together
+LDDT TDDL I give the credit to my crazy teachers who made me write paragraph after paragraph in a correct format: Intro/Body/Conclusion. Lol but thank you
Lyfe to me.. only have the balls 2 pull a strap out on his fellow nigga. Nuff with cowerin our black youth.. we constitutionally have the right to bare arms and defend ourselves when need be. Get ur self a fat piece, legally, b4 they do ban it. All those that wants us dead got theirs.
+delilah navaja yea, just like Malcolm X and MLKJ rebirth. We need balance. Protect yourself, but go in peace first.
+Ras Jammy mane...and don't want minorities 2hav assault rifles, etc cauz dey wanna b tha only 1'z wit em on that day it supposedly "goes dine"...shid, dey'ont want our black ass wit sh!t but piztols lol
whoever invited the media should not be invited to the next one or really needs to be studied this is the same media that cut off the section of an african american boy saying he will have a gun when he is older BECAUSE he will be an officer.
That's why David Banner said they're part of the problem. They painted the images. They edited the statements. THEY CREATED THIS AGENDA.
+Dalinkwent K 👍
Agree. We have a mole.
great commentary.........thank you. It's wonderful to hear a sister speak brilliantly on topics that matter to us.
The system broke Lyfe's fighting spirit smh
This shows how passionate these two men are about what is going on. I personally happy to see that we are talking about this and not sitting in our living room and not doing anything. We may agree to disagree, but this is what happens all over the world and not just among the black community. Do your research people!!! Don't focus on the argument, focus on what can we do as a people to stop what is happening to us in this country. GOD BLESS!!
WE NEED....OUR 'OWN' "BANKS....IN EVERY ''STATE....GROCERY STORES"...... CLOTHING ...ETC!.......
thats how u solve it. fight racism with racism. good job
we DON'T NEED CAUCASIAN-ALBINOS ! BEAST! WE HAVE OUR OWN...EVERYTHING!....DO-NOT' GIVE THE CAUCASIANS...ANY "MONEY"..KEEP IT IN OUR "OWN"...BUSINESSES'! "MINORITY"S!.....PERIOD...CAUCASIAN-ALBINOS..ARE. #BEAST
i totally agree!!!!...if we stop spending with the same clowns that dnt care about us or our communities we can have a start at gettn some damn respect rolling ..we are the biggest group of consumers... that's why it's so hard for us to get loans to start a business... to keep us spending with them and lining the pockets of others!! it's not a whole solution but trust it's one big a** start!😉
WE ARE TOTALLY 'INDEPENTED'! AND EDUACATED'..THE 'CAUCASIAN-ALBINOS'..GREATEST FEAR'..IS LOSING...CONTROL'! AND 'MONEY'. CONTROL AND CONTAIN'....IS THEIR 'GO TOO'!..#NATIVE
+linda win ...yes I know😉ppl better Wake up😴 stop being brainwashed😵
Ti, thank you so much for this video. You always come thru and bring the full story. I was so confused when I read the story and your video helped clarify things. I enjoyed the clips you used very much. ♥️✨
we have to stick together family. ✌
Thanks Ti for the thorough reporting.
They're the modern day Martin Luther King and Malcolm X
+scoobytru far #RealTalk but its still respect
?!? I hope you didn't mean that.
+Mic Rophone agreed
They are fucking thugs
You need to wake up the Mason's God is satan
And both these dudes are Mason's or boule.
Never compare to Malcolm deeds, your kidding
I know. Lol
I totally agree absolutely no media...we don't need to broadcast what we are trying to do especially when trying to find the answer. I love once again how unbiased your commentaries are. I appreciate the fact that you showed defferent parts of what the media has been protraying and what people want to focus on.
I stand with David Banner on fighting back no matter who it is. In any war there will always be casualties, people that think that fighting back with force is insane are closed minded and can't see the bigger picture. There can never be a Martin without Malcolm (the yin and yang) Now, let's think how can we the suffering people get each other to understand how real it is for us to stick together? I think we can all agree that it's going to take bold sacrifices and what is more bolder then the sacrifice of "life". (now on this next point its going to cause controversy)
see we the people can't seem to get it, that we are at war with a world that never intended for us to wake up. They never in a million years would of thought that we would be able to break the sleeping spell and for the most part they were right. that's why some of us have to die so you can understand that your money should be in a black bank (sad but true); that's why some of us have to go to the extreme for you to get off your ass and do something; and that's why i'm am never against "Fighting Back" big up's to David Banner and Lyfe Jennings - unity is the key
Love from the Blackman's Truth
So u somehow think killing cops will somehow change their view on us? You think taking their lives will somehow change the bias some view us in?
Shooting and killing people will not change that. An until you understand that you will never change their view on you.
it's not about changing their views it's about changing our views on how we allow ourselves to be mistreated by continuing to give this system of white supremacy our money. And if it take for some of us to kill cops for you to understand this then this is what we have to do. wake up Sister, Queen, and Mother we are at war. Love from the Blackman's Truth
+Tajuan Russell LMAO ppl like u are the reason things will never change.
if you are willing to kill a cop at a moment's notice for no reason why shouldn't they be on alert when they pull a black person over? how are they to know if it's me a person who will comply with a smile or you who will pull a gun on them just for being a cop.
killing isn't gonna get u anywhere. an it's sad that you somehow think it will help black people in anyway.
it's sad
we have to help them see we are not all people ready to kill them. we have to change the laws an systems that stop others from reaching. their full potential. not go out an kill innocent people for no reason
it says in the constitution we can defend against unlawful arrest.. anyone who tells you different is scared to fight and would rather just be slaughtered
+Xavier Zee lmao so it's better to kill a officer because you think you're right about him arresting you unlawfully? you some how think you won't be brought up on murder charges?
im so glad you put the full story out there! Ti..that's real research and see how we can change things when we all stand 👫👫 against something "TOGETHER"...look how the media hurried to re-do that story!😂😂😂....Now If WE CAN ONLY KEEP THAT UP😏!!!..IMAGINE👫👫 ( SOCIAL MEDIA) WHERE HAVE YOU BEEN....SEE HOW FAST NEWS TRAVELS NOW!!!!👥
The problems in our community are much deeper in 2016 than police killing our people. What about the many fatherless homes we have, or the increase of grandmothers in their 30's? What about the drugs that are running rampant through our communities? What about the violence between our people? Where are our children that are getting serious about education? I don't care what goes on in anyone else's community, I want us to get our ish straight. If we can't value our own lives, our children/families/future, why in the hell would anyone else? Yes, we have a right to bear arms. We have a right to protect ourselves, but why is it we only come together in times like this? I love when we come together to fight oppression, but when are we going to stop fighting each other? Even if our men and women could walk down the street and not be a target to law enforcement, we still run the risk of being targets to each other. How do we solve that?
If you learn your real history as a black person you will know why its like it is. 😔 educated yourself outside of a t.v,computer and mobile screen.
+Andrea it's amazing how you feel that I don't know my history, where in this did I say that? At the end of the day, we all have decisions we must make. I know how families were ripped apart in Slavery times. With that said, when are we going to realize that we are keeping ourselves shackled in our minds with the things we are DECIDING to do today? I'm not talking about what is happening on the street with our people and cops, I'm talking about the decision to take care of our children over not. The decision to fight to have the violence out of our streets, when we don't trust the cops to do it. We have the power to change some things that happen between OUR closed doors. Exactly what does that have to do with not knowing my history? Exactly what does me saying that we have the power to ensure that our children get their education have to do with me not knowing my history? We used to ensure our kids knew how to read and take pride in it.
+Andrea we knew that they used to sell our babies, kill our men, and rape our women, so why do we allow our own people to do the same today? What does this statement have to do with me or knowing history? Why are we doing to ourselves what THEY did to us? Where and why is this ok? Why are we ripping each other apart? Why are our men talking down to our black women and thinking they aren't wife material? Why are our black women calling each other "bitches," not valuing the beauty in their brown skin, and allowing our men to use their bodies for any and everything but not to make them a wife? What does that have to do with not knowing history? I love my history because it shows just how strong my people are, how resilient we can be. How we have been able to love ourselves and take care of our people when others wouldn't take care of us. From what I'm seeing, there are plenty of people that forget THAT part of history and refuse to better themselves.
+Carla Harris growing up my parents would always say that you are the people you hang around. I agree that when you understand where your problems are coming from, you must stay away. Investing in black banks, in my opinion, isn't a bad thing. We have to ensure that these banks stay true and expose the fraud in them when we learn of it. Honestly, it's no different from the other larger "whiter" banks out there. There is corruption everywhere, but in our community we need to learn to call it out for what it is and not get mad when the truth is exposed. Same for HBCU's. We can't allow these schools to be run into the ground. We have to call out and expose the corruption and be willing to fix what has happened to restore their value.
I've never understood why having a different opinion leads to name calling, either you agree or you don't. Must be people with small brains and an even smaller vocabulary.
+L MG The thing is history have a problem repeating itself. What you have posted was spot on🙌🏿. But I have a cousin who went out looking for a job, his girlfriend did as well. They went to a private own warehouse and start to fill out application that was given to them by one of the lady's at the front desk. So they decided to sit in the facility to fill out their apps. One of the supervisor of the plant came and told them they didn't have to finish filling out the apps, and asked them to hand the apps to him. They did as he asked, and what the man did was rip the apps up in front of them and threw them in the trash. A person cannot get a job if they cannot get hired. Most businesses in areas are white own, that do not have nothing to do with being lazy. But I do apology for jumping the gun and assuming.
Peace, love and appreciation Ti. Great commentary.
I agree with Lyfe 💯
+Russell Westbrook and Cam Newton fan since 2010 ......??
I agree to
yup you know she is when it literally says in the constitution you can defend yourself against unalwful arrest
No your coward ass is.
Things will never change then.
I really appreciate you Ti! I had no idea that this meeting went down. I really wish I could have watched all of it 😞
They'll make up and come out with an album lol
I would love to watch the full town hall meeting as well, I'm sure it was full of positivity
Decatur is up here in Georgia
A-Town HardHead ?
I hate Decatur 😂
+malcolm jones agreed Decatur is a dump!
Anything inside of 285 basically is that way but they are trying super hard to gentrify it and push the blacks out.
What I really appreciate about your page is that you do your homework. You show all sides and are in depth with your research. Share your opinion but dont impose it on others. Your channel is really something worth sharing and mentioning so thank you
- your new subscriber
see, T, this is why I fucks with you! you always have the full receipts instead of the bs mainstream hype. you put all the info out and I appreciate that greatly!
I also feel like this was an event that the news shouldn't have been let into.
Good Video Lovelyti!...Got me interested in seeing the whole thing!...We definitely need to quit inviting our Rivalries to our Family meetings! Why do we continue to do the same backwards actions year after year? In order for us to make change...first we have to CHANGE and DO SOMETHING DIFFERENT!...
Nefetiti KMB your so right on point💯
Ti you are consistent and you stand behind your truth whether anyone agrees or not and that must be respected. Thank you for what you do I rather watch you and get my info from online forums because its less bias keep on doing you!
Just subscribed to your channel tonight. This is where most of my news comes from ❤
Your videos are so informative! Thank you for keep us all updated :)
I enjoy your videos. You do a awesome job at keeping us informed in a educated fashion. Thank you.
love you ti! your commentary has gotten better than ever!
I definitely agree with you. The media never portray people in a positive light.
You are the best web hostess LovelyTi! I'm not mad at either one of them.
true TALK my sista Lovelyti.
Confusion and misunderstanding of our plight. Too many times we struggle in creating strategies on how to tackle our problems. Let the struggle continue.
Always great commentary ✊
At this point, I agree with both. Life is being realistic and saying picking up a gun will make it worse=true....But, David had a point about fighting back because we will not be respected if we don't, people respect fear. I think if we put the two together we should hurt them financially by boycotting stores, athletic events and not buying expensive items.
I agree with David on this
I love your videos and commentary!
much success to you! !
I'm always whistling your tune Ti and my daddy say "what's that tune???" I tell him "that's that Ti Tea Sipping tune Daddy Dukes" lolol
as my 84yr old granny says..."Don't talk about family business in front of Strangers."
When David Found his Inner Self 😩💕😍😍😍💯💯💯 Speak Knowledgeeeee Baby
Who needs the news when you have the Lovelyti channel
love you Ti!!
No one every has a real plan. they always talk but don't show progress with strategy etc
I thought I was early 10 mins after posted and the damn comment section is heavy 😂😂
"We will be civil and peaceful with you long as you remain the same with us but make no mistake we will begin to arm or defend ourselves against injustice or abuse when needed..." Huey Newton...
There is nothing wrong with arming yourself responsibly ! Decons for Defense , Black Panther Party . Black people being unarmed economically, mentally and physically is killing us !
I agree totally closed session with out mainstream media
love this channel. drop knowledge!
BTW love love love your videos sis... stay positive...positivity is key!!!
I haven't even finished the video. But I just have to say this. This wasn't a fight, it was a heated debate. Next both these guys opinions hold merit. Banner isn't saying get guns to go after the police. He's saying get one to protect yourself and family. Just like police officers do. They have the right to kill someone if they fear for their lives. Those same rights also apply to the citizens. If they feel their lives are in danger and fear for their lives by the police. They have the right to defend themselves. By any means necessary. Police or not. If those rules don't apply to the police. That just shows they're above the law and can do as they please. Because it's ok for police to kill in self defense, But we can't kill a police officer when it's self defense. Even if we fear for our lives.
We need to be holding these politicians, police Dept, Mayors & Governors of the City responsible by hitting them in their pockets, administrative leave with no pay!!, million dollar fines need to be handed out!!!! PERIOD. When you affect their lifestyles, affect their families then & ONLY then will they learn!!!
Ecclesiastes 12:13
“Let us hear the conclusion of the whole matter: Fear God, and keep his commandments: for this is the whole duty of man.”
They Should've had Dr. Umar Johnson there to speak this looked raggedy as hell
nice video, and well spoken!!
just now getting this story.....team lyfe!!!! love for ALL....and love david banner and this whole message the meeting is sending..............................................making me think...over all
This took place last week in Decatur, Ga. not Texas. I heard this whole mess on the radio.
some discussions and the things said during them need to remain amongst us
speaking the truth sister!
Wow...."The Struggle Continue's",These issue's are deeply embedded in are Culture, ever since "The Original Man has been Lost in this Wilderness of North America".....I love the Fact that Our entertainers (Some of the richest Africans in America), have gathered In a positive setting and are discussing the Issues that need to be discussed....I love the passion It shows that they both Care !!!
Honestly I do understand the emotions from both side's. However their only holding the police accountable. When they should be holding congress responsible. Beyonce wasn't being stupid when she said call your congressmen and ask for change. Their the one's that pass the law and can really breath down the police department's neck and say "get your shit together or we cut your fundings and fire you" So yes I do agree that going out and killing law enforcement officer's is a bad idea. Because then that gives them the green light to call in the army and believe me your not going to win against the army. No matter how many guns you have. So yes protesting, especially early morning when people have to get to work. to open their business, when judges, congressman, police chief ect.have to get to work is smart. opening up and supporting black business and boycotting.
I'm learning so much about this code hands on because from school and work I'm dealing with racism. this code way of racism is a loop hole to get away with racism because by law you have to prove it, but you can't. so it makes it completely legal to be racism this way.
I feel like what David Banner was trying to get at was what Malcolm X and the Black Panthers were trying to teach. Arm ourselves for protection. Only be violent when necessary. Now, idk how effective that'll be now since Philando and Alton were both armed but not having their weapons drawn yet they were killed anyway. It's just annoying that people like to twist words around when some militant black people say that we need to arm ourselves but the other side says that we can't fight violence with violence (which I think is even worse, imo) when sometimes violence gets the message across.
I respect both opinions and love the passion behind both men on our plight. I, personally, think that arming ourselves is not the solution. Some ppl already have guns and Philando had a license to carry and still was murdered. A gun cannot change the way a person thinks in their minds and hearts. I pray Black lives are respected and valued as well as the division that has broaden in our country decrease. A nation divided cannot stand. I am grateful that they had the townhall meeting and I agree the media should not have been there. Thanks LovelyTi for your commentary!
Love this vid,both guys had valid points,but we all need to come together as human beings and come up with a solution.I'm getting fed up with all the killings.
We are in some dangerous days. And if a celebrity makes a statement instructing people to arm themselves, Hell yeah the media will play that on a loop until the next thing happens. Makes them feel better about what has and is happening.
Cameras should not be allowed in something like this. These meetings should be private...period
I think they both present valid points. I see nothing wrong with arming yourself in the event it is needed for protection, however it is completely insane to think that taking the fight to police is a solution to the problem. As a people, Blacks have ALL of what's needed to develop thriving communities. There are just as many AfAm doctors, lawyers, politicians, engineers, scientists, creatives, etc., who can provide the wisdom and knowledge needed to lay the foundation. The question is as Banner presented, who is willing to sever ties with our oppressors and sacrifice what is needed to pull this all together. There is always some chaos before order, so arguments are to be expected. Building OUR OWN is so crucial right now, and this "war" is a distraction to keep us off task. TI I am thoroughly impressed with how you cover issues. Keep doing what you do. Peace and blessings.
I streamed it live from the radio. It was pretty good.
by the way, the FULL VIDEO is called 'STRATEGY FOR CHANGE TOWN HALL MEETING' and it'z on the youtube channel 'EXTRA REGULAR FILMS'. it'z been up since july 12, and ironically, the so called "fight" between banner and lyfe has been COMPLETELY edited out.
I agree 100% the media shouldn't have been allowed in there.
Keeping our integrity is a must is what I believe Jennings is passionately expressing. Hopefully Banner was trying to passionately express the importance of us arming ourselves with wisdom and knowledge to fight with as King taught us. Be a glorious blessing of todays matter, not more of a curse.
Don't go tell people to go do things that you won't do yourself.
You should always record/capture your own events. Having your own videographer, photographers etc. is vital.
This is the earliest I've gotten here before
good for all of those who forced the station to broadcast more about the meeting. that very same concentrated focused attention can affect change in many other areas
My personal opinion - No, I DO NOT want to see anymore of my brothers and sisters locked up. Although I DO believe that more black people should LEGALLY bare arms. It's a right that we should exercise. I DO NOT agree with fighting officers or anyone else out of rage or anger. I DO feel that we should take a stand and support more black owned business. And CREATE more black owned business❣️
Love yo Ti!
When there is a family meeting you only have family present , not friends or associates .
First Let me say I think you are a very intelligent Clear Objective Minded Person. I love the video and your commentary. I do not think we should pick up arms as an answer I do believe we should defend our lives.
Real talk sister queen. We / our people know their tactics and as soon as we stop listening ro them we need to focus on each other. We have to defend ourselves period. Nothung irresponsible about defending / protecting your family / people. Do we think their is manhood without the defense of our nation?
Town Hall meetings are typically for the local residents. The celebrity element made the event more sensational than it needed to be.
I served in the Air Force the worst decision I ever made in my life,and I will tell every person that wants to join,Don't fuckin do it!!!
Lost of life or lost of finances is the only thing they fear
modern day malcom X and Martin Luther King differences.
Truth!
NO, and thats the problem we quickly reference them but ignore MARCUS GARVEY.
Malcolm said pick up guns but he had a true vision and plan a real leader
+Kravesin feel you but that's not even close to the issue
KIDROBOT4 you are so right, my thoughts exactly.💯😀🙌
I absolutely love your show and this just brought me back to a heated argument that me and my husband had over the issues we face as Black women and men in America. I stood firm in that i do not hate white people i am not a racist or prejudice. I am also not blind to how far back as people we are and the need for answer that have been long overdue. And when i say answers i mean the question people have been asking for over 100 years. What are we going to do? Only we as people can answer this question and if we continue to look to our government for answers we will continue to wait in vain. Like i explained to my husband we can not continue to blame the white man because that is an excuse which has no action, In order for us to move forward we need to continue to educate our selves and our youth to create opportunities and environments where our people can flourish. And with all things there will always be rotten apples in the bunch but we can not allow that to distract us. Like Malcom X said we must educate our selves to prevent mental enslavement. Because with education and knowledge comes power and it is up to us to use that power to advance our people. But i am not blind to the affects our en-slavers have had upon us as a race nor will i ever forget. But it also brings me to say this Humans are greedy and with greed comes betrayal. Only when our people and all people remove hate and envious thoughts will we as children of god be able to receive our true blessing and move forward in peace as a society. Since the beginning of time we have craved what is not for us and that is what continues to lead us down a slippery slope. If you are looking for peace in the world i will say this I believe will never come. I pray that we as a people can find a way to manifest in a society as such. Like the Lotus even we as a race can bloom in mud.
I'm just glad someone stood up and told David banner he sounds crazy! All of these pro blacks promoting violence need to be condemned. They're making fools of themselves.
defending yourself is crazy? I guess the Black Panthers and Deacons were also crazy even though they defended alot of King's marches
Blood Bane David banner is a racist, black suprematist nut job. Fighting imaginary white supremacy that doesn't exist anymore.
Shoshinaki Hmmm, your whole statement is a mess, but i'm not gonna explain to you why, because it would be too long, a waste of everybody's time and you probably would ignore all I say and comeback with something very weak.
Blood Bane I just summed it up real quick. The nut job part is my opinion but everything else is facts.
+Shoshinaki imaginary white supremacy... Really??? What planet do you live on???
they both are right and they both need to respect each other for that.
I agree mainstream media shouldn't have been involved, they love to highlight the drama and dismiss the productivity of blacks coming together.