A No-Paperwork LEGAL Pistol Stock? The One Shot Stock [TriggrCon 2023]

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  • Опубликовано: 24 сен 2023
  • James is at TriggrCon 2023 (make sure to check the playlist and subscribe). At this show, James interviewed the people with One Shot, manufacturers of an allegedly legal non-brace stock that works for pistols and is, according to the company reps, in use with special forces units and the United States Secret Service. Sound off about this device in the comments.
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  • @JaycobFactor
    @JaycobFactor 10 месяцев назад +1683

    Gotta appreciate companies giving the ATF a hard time 😂

    • @puropresidential
      @puropresidential 10 месяцев назад +97

      More like the ATF is giving us a hard time, these guys just stick up for us

    • @Zundfolge
      @Zundfolge 10 месяцев назад +23

      Based on the ridiculous amount of puffery in that sales pitch, that guy clearly thinks his would-be customers are stupid ... so that says to me they're as likely to be feds themselves as they are to be actual entrepreneurs.

    • @03Grunt-arrino
      @03Grunt-arrino 10 месяцев назад +4

      @DOOMAOSee what you did there haha

    • @negativefishermen9286
      @negativefishermen9286 10 месяцев назад +12

      Matt Hoover did it he’s in federal prison

    • @TheWalterKurtz
      @TheWalterKurtz 10 месяцев назад +9

      If we don't give ATF a hard time there's no point in being gun owners.

  • @jasonmullins3900
    @jasonmullins3900 10 месяцев назад +1058

    People are going to be 3d printing the hell out of these.

    • @erroneous6947
      @erroneous6947 10 месяцев назад +60

      That was my thought. Should be easy to print.

    • @pauvilreutov2975
      @pauvilreutov2975 10 месяцев назад +73

      I literally came here to the comments to say that I'm designing and printing one for my Hellcat right now.😂

    • @jasonmullins3900
      @jasonmullins3900 10 месяцев назад

      @pauvilreutov2975 microcenter is emailing coupons that drops the new K1 to 379. Basically, anyone can print nylon now.

    • @bdkj3e
      @bdkj3e 10 месяцев назад

      ​@@pauvilreutov2975man you gotta hook me up with that design

    • @fire_tower
      @fire_tower 10 месяцев назад +48

      Printer go brrrt

  • @ultrablue2
    @ultrablue2 10 месяцев назад +824

    ATF today: Oh, no, that’s fine guys. Perfectly legal.
    ATF one year from now: WARNING! You’ve just broke federal law! Everyone goes to prison!

    • @g54b95
      @g54b95 10 месяцев назад

      Yep. That's how they roll, until they get their balls chopped off. Which is coming soon.

    • @matthewconnor5483
      @matthewconnor5483 10 месяцев назад +19

      Just more fuel for the lawyers to make them look stupid in court.

    • @clamum9648
      @clamum9648 10 месяцев назад +3

      Fo shizzy

    • @WaitWhatsMyName
      @WaitWhatsMyName 10 месяцев назад +16

      You go to prison, you go to prison, everyone goes to prison! - oprah

    • @The_Ghost923
      @The_Ghost923 10 месяцев назад +4

      ​@@WaitWhatsMyNameHe's going to boot camp! She's going to boot camp! You're all going to boot camp! - Maury

  • @Tomcat97
    @Tomcat97 10 месяцев назад +219

    I have a hard time believing any agency or the secret service uses this when they have full auto pdws, smgs, and can use stocks on pistols and use sbrs.

    • @animal0mother
      @animal0mother 10 месяцев назад +52

      I bet if one agent or agency bought one for the slightest shits and giggles or cursory testing purposes, they're bragging or would brag about it. (The ATF may have bought one just to figure a way to make it illegal.)
      There is no reason for LEO agencies to field these for actual work.

    • @execprotect6147
      @execprotect6147 10 месяцев назад

      They don't use them. Idiots like this guy will give a free part to someone who is active mil/leo, just to say it's "in use." It's of no use to anyone in law enforcement, or the military. Isn't this the same company that used to make shitty bore sights, and knock off lasers?

    • @DB-yj3qc
      @DB-yj3qc 10 месяцев назад +9

      Years ago, I saw something like that used for cameras and spotting scopes. I wouldn't be surprised if some agencies had bought them.... another way to burn taxpayers dollars. I highly doubt that Air Marshall's, or S.S. would use it for handguns. Maybe some are using it with camera and spotting scopes. Photographers use similar tools in past.

    • @Doc.Holiday
      @Doc.Holiday 7 месяцев назад +7

      Yep,.. lm calling BS on that one too.

    • @uglyjihad
      @uglyjihad 6 месяцев назад +2

      Not tryna sound mean but the way he was stuttering so much was annoying me too

  • @asalmon2112
    @asalmon2112 10 месяцев назад +173

    “One shot” is what your dog will hear, incidentally

  • @jeffhays1968
    @jeffhays1968 10 месяцев назад +756

    Love the innovations overtaking the ATF regulations and forcing them into more and more silly positions. Keep up the good work America.

    • @chrism4008
      @chrism4008 10 месяцев назад +8

      Lol, you didnt hear him say thats who they made it for first? The State

    • @WitchyWagonReal
      @WitchyWagonReal 10 месяцев назад +16

      @@chrism4008Well… if you think about it, that’s a fantastic strategy. Do you really see any state agency invested in a polymer kit like this when they have subs, carbines, rifles… but the minutes you say, “It’s for Law Enforcement- now available to the public!” shit flies out the door… like every AR and EOtech and piece of kit that had “For Military and Law Enforcement Only!” 😆

    • @Caveman125
      @Caveman125 10 месяцев назад +4

      @@WitchyWagonRealyour not wrong, people are so dumb.

    • @Weimerica8841
      @Weimerica8841 10 месяцев назад +2

      ​@@WitchyWagonRealI just like Eotechs man 😢

    • @MrRedrooster53
      @MrRedrooster53 10 месяцев назад +1

      "Price, one day you're going to learn that it cuts both ways".

  • @coledrevenj
    @coledrevenj 10 месяцев назад +767

    The stock isn't illegal, but the price they want is a crime.

    • @ryshellso526
      @ryshellso526 10 месяцев назад +122

      3D printer it. ;)

    • @AT-xr8qh
      @AT-xr8qh 10 месяцев назад +9

      Idk, if it could be made to work with something like ar pistols, it could be useful

    • @Tier1Norseman
      @Tier1Norseman 10 месяцев назад +12

      You can make a better one at home! 😂

    • @stevenwagner9912
      @stevenwagner9912 10 месяцев назад +9

      I thought about making a vest with a socket on each shoulder on top of a pad.

    • @clamum9648
      @clamum9648 10 месяцев назад +38

      Standard firearms industry product. Prices are unhinged.

  • @embracethesuck1041
    @embracethesuck1041 10 месяцев назад +140

    Imagine if people spent as much effort removing an unconstitutional law as they do working around it.

    • @coreyhall9461
      @coreyhall9461 10 месяцев назад +5

      This comment here!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    • @DragonArcadia
      @DragonArcadia 10 месяцев назад +2

      Check out people like Matthew Larosiere. They do fight unconstitutional law, and it takes a long time, and unfortunately doesn’t always work.

    • @Beuwen_The_Dragon
      @Beuwen_The_Dragon 4 месяца назад

      ​@DragonArcadia It doesn't always work because only One person at a time ever stands up to the Feds at a given time...
      If Millions of Americans outright Refused to comply and gave the Feds the finger, the Feds would be powerless to stop it.

    • @DOOM_A-O
      @DOOM_A-O Месяц назад

      Unfortunately in our stupid system, they are always allowed to be one step ahead of us. They get to pass the clearly unconstitutional law (even more clear post bruen decision) and destroy entire markets, but we can’t sue them to have the law or regulation repealed until they arrest someone and make us drag it through the courts for a decade and millions of dollars in legal fees while they have access to the money printers paying for government lawyers who are paid to shit on us and the constitution with our own tax money.
      And most people don’t willingly become felons to fight this garbage, so we get dumb work arounds like this.

  • @woodlandranger9817
    @woodlandranger9817 10 месяцев назад +923

    For $20 to $30, I might buy just for shiggles. They're crazy as hell to price that at $129 though

    • @briantruxtonjr.6108
      @briantruxtonjr.6108 10 месяцев назад +67

      I was gonna go look but now I don't have to......🥜

    • @erroneous6947
      @erroneous6947 10 месяцев назад +187

      Should be easy for someone to 3-d print one.

    • @TheGrimiest
      @TheGrimiest 10 месяцев назад +136

      He didn’t want to say the price at all and kept rambling too it was so annoying

    • @walkingwolf8072
      @walkingwolf8072 10 месяцев назад +66

      Gee only $129 to get free room and board for five years.

    • @briantruxtonjr.6108
      @briantruxtonjr.6108 10 месяцев назад

      @@walkingwolf8072 its not attached that's the whole point

  • @RevRedmondFarrier
    @RevRedmondFarrier 10 месяцев назад +558

    "The ATF has no jurisdiction." What makes you think that is going to stop them? They just put two guys in prison for what boils down to metal business cards and one of the guys was only advertising them. I hope you are prepared, because if this thing gets a bit of attention, they will certainly try to do the same to you. (Not saying you shouldn't be doing this. Just that you should be ready for a nasty legal battle with the possibility of jail time if they think your product take off.)

    • @oskar6661
      @oskar6661 10 месяцев назад

      Yep, we're well past the point of what is legal and illegal...that's all in the eyes of the "administration" now.

    • @trailertrashtactics
      @trailertrashtactics 10 месяцев назад +1

      I can't believe anybody thumbs ups your response. Absolute boomer.

    • @ericpettyfishing
      @ericpettyfishing 10 месяцев назад +42

      I cannot fathom living in such a state of fear

    • @nelsonbrum8496
      @nelsonbrum8496 10 месяцев назад +46

      **new AFT definition coming soon**

    • @nelsonbrum8496
      @nelsonbrum8496 10 месяцев назад +30

      *interpretation

  • @bayoucity1
    @bayoucity1 10 месяцев назад +24

    Citizen: "The ATF has no jurisdiction."
    ATF: "Hold my beer."

    • @alanrogs3990
      @alanrogs3990 10 месяцев назад

      This joke is so worn out. But 5 tards liked it.

  • @blcouch
    @blcouch 10 месяцев назад +24

    I saw a non-attached buttstock in Small Arms Review maybe back in 2004 or so. It was simple, yet very effective and completely legal because as soon as you let go of the grip, the stock would fall off.

  • @D.A_1988
    @D.A_1988 10 месяцев назад +163

    Give it a few years...the atf will back peddle and call it a "detachable sbr"

    • @stefanmolnapor910
      @stefanmolnapor910 10 месяцев назад +7

      "We can have them but not you" - AFT

    • @KateHikes1933
      @KateHikes1933 10 месяцев назад +3

      Power is the only thing that matters. The system is doing whatever they want, words on paper be damned.

    • @billstevens5277
      @billstevens5277 10 месяцев назад +3

      A few years, LOL. Probably a few months.

    • @m.w.2401
      @m.w.2401 10 месяцев назад +3

      What the ATF says doesn't matter.

    • @KateHikes1933
      @KateHikes1933 10 месяцев назад

      @@m.w.2401 Wrong. They throw people in prison and kill people for fighting back. That matters.

  • @garyK.45ACP
    @garyK.45ACP 10 месяцев назад +333

    "ATF has no jurisdiction" 🤣
    Incoming: New ATF regulation banning anything that _can be held up to a handgun_ to "readily convert" it to a SBR.
    Get yours NOW. Pay cash. DO NOT order it online.

    • @mhans79
      @mhans79 10 месяцев назад +18

      Would probably also make it a machine gun as far as the ATF is concerned lol

    • @SpaceRanger187
      @SpaceRanger187 10 месяцев назад +21

      just 3d print it

    • @kcamroccamian
      @kcamroccamian 10 месяцев назад +17

      "ATF can't regulate you stabilizing against a wall".
      Are you sure? I wouldn't put it past them

    • @Weimerica8841
      @Weimerica8841 10 месяцев назад +16

      ​@@SpaceRanger187Hahaha it's like screenshotting an NFT. $120 for a plastic stock is madness, I don't care if it survives a cinderblock.

    • @BuckF0eJiden
      @BuckF0eJiden 10 месяцев назад +1

      Shit, you can just make one with some sheet aluminum, a pair of pliers and a vice...
      10/10, though. Would 3d print and zip tie to a handgun. Because FTATF

  • @fixedG
    @fixedG 10 месяцев назад +33

    That's certainly a new take: how can it be considered a gun part if it cannot be attached to any gun. I want one just to support a company trying to cuck the ATF, although I think their claims of putting these things in the hands of numerous government agents in the very next breath seem suspicious and odd.

    • @hiya_how_areya6436
      @hiya_how_areya6436 10 месяцев назад

      For that price? They've definitely been selling to the government. They're the only ones who'd pay that much

    • @dmk0210
      @dmk0210 10 месяцев назад +1

      Look up shoelace machine gun

  • @RoboHearted
    @RoboHearted 10 месяцев назад +9

    Why would a federal agency need this for? They have access to almost anything they want to carry.

  • @connerbv1209
    @connerbv1209 10 месяцев назад +49

    Really got my eyes rolling when he started talking about the law enforcement agencies🙄

    • @762x69
      @762x69 10 месяцев назад +6

      Made me pause and wait for a mention of a AFT letter of approval. Nope.. No buy

    • @lewiswetzel8617
      @lewiswetzel8617 10 месяцев назад

      Wow. So impressed!!! They sell to the Cheka and brag about it. I have respect for people who don't sell to cops and military.

    • @andrewromig9753
      @andrewromig9753 10 месяцев назад

      I have no doubt what actually happened was he sent them some for free and they didn't spit in his face, so now they're "in use" by XYZ agency.
      "We protect governors and presidents". Give me a break.
      James practically had to twist his arm twice to bring him back to reality.

    • @MellowFellowOfYellow
      @MellowFellowOfYellow 4 месяца назад +1

      Lol mentioning the CIA is also wild.

  • @2aTommy
    @2aTommy 10 месяцев назад +186

    Any product or company giving the finger to the ATF is a good thing imo.

    • @StarryNightMachinima
      @StarryNightMachinima 10 месяцев назад +4

      He proudly said ATF uses them lmfao

    • @2aTommy
      @2aTommy 10 месяцев назад +3

      @@StarryNightMachinima I’m sure they’re super happy about them selling them to the public now

    • @gripz9387
      @gripz9387 10 месяцев назад

      @@2aTommyL

    • @fire_tower
      @fire_tower 10 месяцев назад +4

      ​@@StarryNightMachinimaATF probably bought one to add to their museum. They've got tons of guns (that they acquired under circumstances).

    • @alexmaurice4274
      @alexmaurice4274 10 месяцев назад +1

      He said special forces dude whattt🤣 I like it’s a product that will give the atf a headache but beyond that it’s a fkn joke

  • @lanedexter6303
    @lanedexter6303 10 месяцев назад +15

    Years ago, I had a little “shoulder stock” of plastic and threaded rod to adjust length, even a little curved cheek piece, but the front end was a leather wrist piece. So it wasn’t really a stock because it didn’t touch the gun in my hand, only braced my wrist.

  • @juancortez4726
    @juancortez4726 7 месяцев назад

    love your new channel, thank you for what you do brother! you keeping us informed, inspired and motivated to keep our guns on us!! Thank you!

  • @platoplombo15
    @platoplombo15 10 месяцев назад +145

    I see two dollars worth of PVC pipe, a table saw and a heat gun in my future.

    • @stuckgrenadepin.225
      @stuckgrenadepin.225 10 месяцев назад +1

      I have a .300blk single shot pistol that I would like to make into an SBR but I am unwilling to pay extortion fees to do so.

    • @3blkst
      @3blkst 10 месяцев назад

      Sheets of kydex are cheap🤔

    • @mtnbkr5478
      @mtnbkr5478 10 месяцев назад +1

      This is about $5 worth of printer filament.

  • @sahzookey
    @sahzookey 10 месяцев назад +231

    Kind of cool. I dont believe any secret service uses this though. They dont have to play by our laws.

    • @Paelorian
      @Paelorian 10 месяцев назад +17

      There may be a practical advantage here for concealed carry due to the quick attack and detach, faster than any stock. There are some quick attaching handgun stocks, but they usually involve sliding small parts together, which is slower than this. If it works as promised, I can see it's application for Secret Service in quickly deploying for supported shots.

    • @ja0298
      @ja0298 10 месяцев назад +43

      It was probably tested by one agent for giggles that works at a desk.

    • @Paelorian
      @Paelorian 10 месяцев назад +7

      This is good for using their standard issue handguns, but if I were unconstrained by budget I might go with a B&T USW or TP9, the stocks on which would deploy even faster because they stay attached. But those guns with folding stocks attached are significantly larger and so much harder to conceal. Same with other PDWs like the H&K MP7 and classic stocked Mini-Uzi.
      With this new thing, you holster your handgun without modifications, and you've got this in a pocket to quickly use when needed for more accurate shooting. So it's easy to incorporate without modifications to weapons, holsters, and gear.
      I doubt this is the new norm, but we haven't seen it working yet. It's worth a shot. I could see it actually having some efficacy in an executive protection role, and am not surprised the Secret Service might test it. Sometimes agents are only armed with handguns, but they still need to be able to make precise shots among crowds.
      I wouldn't exactly say I'm optimistic, but I'm interested in seeing how it's received when people start buying it. Just because it's new and unusual doesn't mean it's useless, and I'm happy to see attempts at innovation. I hope that it's actually useful and if so will become successful.

    • @Skeletomania
      @Skeletomania 10 месяцев назад +5

      ​@@Paelorianbut why this and not something like a b&t usw or other chassis system.

    • @chrisclark6161
      @chrisclark6161 10 месяцев назад

      ​@@ja0298it's the same energy as all the companies claiming their products are used by special forces, when in reality one dude who's email was sealteam69 ordered one of them.

  • @flyingninja1234
    @flyingninja1234 10 месяцев назад +6

    On an unrelated note, cinder blocks are surprisingly fragile. This piece of plastic is a stroke of genius.

  • @vince1376
    @vince1376 10 месяцев назад +7

    while there's no way i would ever purchase or use thing like this, I do love how the private sector keeps innovating things like this

  • @kenhoward3512
    @kenhoward3512 10 месяцев назад +120

    The company boss really, really, REALLY didn't want to state the price for this piece of plastic. That "$129" will certainly come down, if this idea catches on with other developers (corporate or individual).

    • @3cressidas
      @3cressidas 10 месяцев назад +4

      A buddy of mine bought his 'not a stock' at a show earlier this year for only $50, and after looking at the, thought that was way too much.

    • @Tupadre762
      @Tupadre762 10 месяцев назад +2

      Lol he kept dancing around the subject 😂

    • @edgarburlyman738
      @edgarburlyman738 10 месяцев назад +3

      We can just 3d print any such plastic gizmos these days

    • @brendanr1525
      @brendanr1525 10 месяцев назад

      @@edgarburlyman738 _if_ you have a 3D printer and can 3d model...

    • @Nuthing_but_the_Truth
      @Nuthing_but_the_Truth 4 месяца назад +2

      That was the one of the worst salesmanship jobs I have ever seen.

  • @lonewanderer3603
    @lonewanderer3603 10 месяцев назад +248

    I laughed out loud when he said $2000. Even $129 seems like a lot for something that could probably be 3d printed for $10.

    • @Skwisgar2322
      @Skwisgar2322 10 месяцев назад +29

      Or injection moulded for .10c a pop.

    • @kerbalairforce8802
      @kerbalairforce8802 10 месяцев назад +16

      Or made from scrap PVC pipe

    • @AlexDenton0451
      @AlexDenton0451 10 месяцев назад +19

      ​@@Skwisgar2322injection molding costs a fuckton to set up at first, 129 is taking the piss though.

    • @randyjackson5159
      @randyjackson5159 10 месяцев назад +23

      Common marketing tactic when you're trying to sell something overpriced. You say some ridiculous number first so when you say the price it seems like it's less compared to that crazy price. $129 is very expensive but after saying $2000 it doesn't seem as abdsurd

    • @lonewanderer3603
      @lonewanderer3603 10 месяцев назад +11

      @@randyjackson5159 kind of a kick in the nuts to the taxpayer to know that's what they are charging the federal agencies for these things. If it's true.

  • @kurtisskoog5874
    @kurtisskoog5874 10 месяцев назад +12

    I’m going to assume they sent a whole bunch of these things free to Federal and State police agencies for ‘test and evaluation’ for the company to make the claims they did. How many officers are going to want and pack around yet another item on their load bearing vest?

    • @FirstLineOfDefense
      @FirstLineOfDefense 10 месяцев назад

      They said in the video that the government already has and uses these.

  • @theprofessional155
    @theprofessional155 10 месяцев назад +10

    The way your talking at the start to avoid legal trouble is how ridiculous the ATF’s rules are.

    • @survivalhax6594
      @survivalhax6594 4 месяца назад

      Hey didn't know you were a gun nut I thought you loved in GTA lol

    • @survivalhax6594
      @survivalhax6594 4 месяца назад

      Hey you're a gun nut too I thought you just lived in GTA lol

  • @Zundfolge
    @Zundfolge 10 месяцев назад +41

    Nifty. But pay cash and buy it in person ... preferably while wearing an N95. Or just print your own. (I'm sorry but $130 for a simple piece of plastic is a bit steep)

    • @erroneous6947
      @erroneous6947 10 месяцев назад +6

      Like you said the risk of being on an atf (already technically a felon) list is no bueno.

    • @McNamEvan
      @McNamEvan 10 месяцев назад +2

      The price tag is to cover their future legal battle.

    • @rekerboi1125
      @rekerboi1125 10 месяцев назад +1

      Not at all steep. Molds are expensive to make. It's a good price for a good product, keep in mind they also need to make some profit. If they sold them for the $5 worth of injection molded polymer they wouldn't be making money. Holy shit you people are fucking cheap.

    • @tortol4847
      @tortol4847 10 месяцев назад

      I'd be nervous buying any kind of sketchy item even if it's in cash. I was at a gun show a couple weeks ago and there was a guy selling "solvent traps". I thought they were suppressors until I flipped one over and it had no hole. My first thought was to look at him because I thought to myself "this guy is definitely a cop". He definitely had the look. I just told him not interested and walked away.

    • @chaimafaghet7343
      @chaimafaghet7343 10 месяцев назад +1

      PVC pipe is easy to heat form. 3D printing has its place but people with an allergy to tools really overuse it.

  • @JaceGGD
    @JaceGGD 10 месяцев назад +14

    For a fun exercise: Watch James' facial expression as the sales rep starts listing the agencies "currently using" this product.

    • @762x69
      @762x69 10 месяцев назад +3

      That was the face of, I just asked you a simple question why are you embellishing....😅God I do that so much

    • @joshuamoore91
      @joshuamoore91 10 месяцев назад +4

      Omfg I didn't see it the first time. And his pause followed by.... oookay...

    • @alexmaurice4274
      @alexmaurice4274 10 месяцев назад +2

      The “ok” after he said it protects presidents 🤣🤣 I can’t possibly fathom them using this mayyybe but idk like I see the use-which at least makes a litttle sense but why not use a pistol chassis? Or just don’t bother with this and just use the pistol? Idk seems more like a gimmick.

  • @dkeith45
    @dkeith45 8 месяцев назад +2

    I bought one. Fits every pistol I've tried it with, even a Heritage .22 revolver. Cool device. Wish it was adjustable for length though, a couple extra inches longer would be nice.

  • @PoormansMachineGun
    @PoormansMachineGun 10 месяцев назад +11

    "ATF has no jurisdiction!"
    Once upon a time a little company called Rare Breed Triggers LLC brought a product to market under the same belief.

  • @AlexHand
    @AlexHand 10 месяцев назад +67

    I've been wondering when someone would do this for the Shockwave with that pistol grip. It's great, but it's still a single piece of injection molded plastic for $125.

    • @tihruytssgjjvsavcxtbvhj3429
      @tihruytssgjjvsavcxtbvhj3429 10 месяцев назад +5

      Fwiw plastic molds are expensive. A mold of that size would cost about $30,000 not including prototype molds.

    • @m.w.2401
      @m.w.2401 10 месяцев назад +1

      Just put a stock on it mossberg 500 stocks are not hard to find.

    • @AlexHand
      @AlexHand 10 месяцев назад +3

      @@m.w.2401 I don't want to be on ATF file with something I have to legally get permission to drive from Texas to New Mexico.

  • @bat2293
    @bat2293 10 месяцев назад +84

    I think the ATF would argue that the fact it is not permanently attached is irrelevant. It is ment to be used as a stock. It is advertised as a stock. It functions as a stock. When used with a pistol, it effectvely makes the pistol a SBR _while it is being used_ .

    • @Merril_39
      @Merril_39 10 месяцев назад +7

      No other use

    • @c0c0asauce
      @c0c0asauce 10 месяцев назад +5

      I see your point and I agree that the ATF would probably press charges but I doubt they are going door to door for people who considered buying one like certian other accessories.

    • @user-ve5rr8ch6j
      @user-ve5rr8ch6j 10 месяцев назад +16

      Just trolling the atf and they’re nonsense rules😁. Need more companies to do this until the atf gets overwhelmed and stops trying to overstep.

    • @c0c0asauce
      @c0c0asauce 10 месяцев назад

      @@user-ve5rr8ch6j They will just ask for more budget.

    • @disillusioned070
      @disillusioned070 10 месяцев назад +7

      @@Merril_39 two other uses I can think of right in the moment are cameras with long lenses and spotting scopes or long range magnifiers of some sort. Honestly while I'm typing this I think I've seen something similar used with cameras.

  • @Cheezeball99999
    @Cheezeball99999 10 месяцев назад +5

    I actually really want to see all of the stuff they declare illegal, in order to attack this one particular product. Because it's going to be really, really hard to define this without making half of the stuff in one's house a felony to possess.

  • @christophertaylor4722
    @christophertaylor4722 10 месяцев назад +1

    I got mine last month. This is my second one. My other is the second interation. I'm very happy my first one. I've shot several different guns using the older version.
    I'll have to do an unboxing and range video.

  • @theodoreheintz7891
    @theodoreheintz7891 10 месяцев назад +42

    I believe these guys used to be called One-Shot USA and they've been around for almost a decade now. Several years ago while passing through Reno I met the guys from one shot USA and tried that out and it was good and worked well. I think the most interesting version that one shot USA had was one that held an Apple iPad. It was actually seriously cool.

    • @MrMagnaniman
      @MrMagnaniman 10 месяцев назад +9

      Apple products instantly cancel out the coolness of anything they touch, though.

    • @yupyup4209
      @yupyup4209 10 месяцев назад +7

      What was the purpose of it being able to have an iPad?

    • @theodoreheintz7891
      @theodoreheintz7891 10 месяцев назад +1

      @@yupyup4209 it was for law enforcement they could write traffic tickets or access their computer system and theoretically you can put some sort of ballistic backing on it too.

    • @tenchraven
      @tenchraven 10 месяцев назад

      Yeah, it's One-shot USA

  • @funkla65
    @funkla65 10 месяцев назад +17

    True, it doesn't actually attach to the gun. Even so, I'd advise anyone to keep it out of the vicinity of any velcro strips, duct tape, etc and make sure it's never found with any sticky residue or staple holes, etc on it.

    • @762x69
      @762x69 10 месяцев назад

      True. Intent and all that stuff which makes you look loke a filthy thinking felon that actually doesn't spend leisure time at the local MLK street 🍵🫖

  • @caseymelick8023
    @caseymelick8023 10 месяцев назад

    Like always top shelf thank you for the info

  • @NipplesOfDoom
    @NipplesOfDoom 10 месяцев назад +7

    They gave me two of them at the con, i'm still not sold on it, but its an interesting concept. Would i pay 120 bones for one? Nah, probably not. After putting some time behind it at range day I can see its applications, granted extremely limited.

  • @grits_taste_good415
    @grits_taste_good415 10 месяцев назад +11

    Now that a well-known dude has covered this, I hope Brass Facts reviews this

  • @ColeDedhand
    @ColeDedhand 10 месяцев назад +21

    Next month this will be ruled a short-barrel machinegun destructive device.

    • @stefanmolnapor910
      @stefanmolnapor910 10 месяцев назад +2

      Don't forget the "Insurrection" it caused!

  • @peanut2220
    @peanut2220 10 месяцев назад

    Kicking off the video with a shot of the airport lactation pod in the background is legendary

  • @JohnDoeTheTroll
    @JohnDoeTheTroll 10 месяцев назад +3

    There was an episode of The Rifleman where Chuck Connors used a board in a similar fashion on a pistol to shoot a "bad guy" at a distance. I've done similar when plinking and wanting to make a longer shot with a pistol. I wish I'd thought of bringing something like this to market, but I wouldn't be greedy enough to ask for $129 for a piece of plastic!!

    • @life_of_riley88
      @life_of_riley88 10 месяцев назад

      The Rifleman! Bu-bah-da-dum-bu-bah! Love that show, so wholesome.

  • @PewLand
    @PewLand 10 месяцев назад +11

    Who needs an mp7 or p90 when you could tuck this bad boy under your coat and hold it to your glock. The secret service only gets the best 😂

    • @theiviachine
      @theiviachine 10 месяцев назад +5

      Velcro it to your shirt 😂. Dude wack

  • @SwordFighterPKN
    @SwordFighterPKN 10 месяцев назад +28

    $129??? Yeah this is cool but come on, that's a crazy price.

    • @montyp2000
      @montyp2000 10 месяцев назад +8

      Seriously... I was thinking $50. There's no way that costs more than a few bucks to make. At $50 you'll sell 10x more and recoup the cost of the tooling in no time.

    • @12ealDealOfficial
      @12ealDealOfficial 10 месяцев назад +6

      3d printer worthy for sure though.

    • @jart83
      @jart83 10 месяцев назад +4

      Hence why he avoided the question twice.

    • @762x69
      @762x69 10 месяцев назад +1

      @@jart83it probably would've been taken easier if he wasn't so dodgy about it. Just say 129 but it was 99 if you pre-ordered a month ago. That would've tempered things I think..

    • @alexmaurice4274
      @alexmaurice4274 10 месяцев назад +2

      No no no guys the cia uses this it’s definitely worth that money and he doesn’t come off as a scam artist at all.

  • @fffiilpsnamecaps9004
    @fffiilpsnamecaps9004 10 месяцев назад +1

    Love the concept, love the energy, I want one - but for that price I'll stick with the cutting board, thanks

  • @TheLTCtrainer
    @TheLTCtrainer 10 месяцев назад +1

    There was something like this years ago for the Ruger MK pistols. Same philosophy, fits against the back of the grip, held in place when you grip gun, made of some kind of thick wire. ATF said it made the gun an SBR & that was the end of them.

  • @prototype3a
    @prototype3a 10 месяцев назад +104

    This guy seems to be very proud of arming the enemy with these.

    • @John_Redcorn_
      @John_Redcorn_ 10 месяцев назад +55

      When he started rattling off all the alphabet agencies the hobo haircut started to make sense

    • @fomocore
      @fomocore 10 месяцев назад

      The only way small-business exist in a fascist country is suck the government tit for work

    • @bobbertbobberson6725
      @bobbertbobberson6725 10 месяцев назад

      As if the alphabet agencies don't already have all the sbr's and machine guns they want?

    • @platapus112
      @platapus112 10 месяцев назад +3

      They always are.

    • @MrFlathead45
      @MrFlathead45 10 месяцев назад

      ​@@John_Redcorn_toupee...

  • @dwayneelizondomountaindewh6073
    @dwayneelizondomountaindewh6073 10 месяцев назад +11

    well, I'm pretty sure the wordage does say attached to the gun. so, if you just so happen to hold two things in your hand it should be fine. but then the ATF also like to say "intent matters" so who really knows.

  • @stewmoyer8922
    @stewmoyer8922 10 месяцев назад +8

    There was a guy who made one of these years ago out of wood, I believe he was living in a remote part of Alaska. He sent a note to the ATF and they determined at the time that his "brace" was not a stock. Just a piece of wood that he rested the pistol on. I think he was on Glocktalk or one of those forums. Interesting to see it as a legit product now!

  • @iant2064
    @iant2064 10 месяцев назад +1

    That cutout at the top that lets the slide cycle sure looks like it would be a nice place to put the buffer tube on an AR pistol.

  • @thewhitematstudio
    @thewhitematstudio 10 месяцев назад +24

    Pretty effective. Tried it out at an event over the weekend.

  • @fire_tower
    @fire_tower 10 месяцев назад +13

    If there's one thing I love it's novel legal arguments. Edit: you know what it does have the advantage of being less intrusive than all other options on the market when not in use.

  • @RyeOnHam
    @RyeOnHam 10 месяцев назад +1

    Wait, so if I take the lever and pin out of my bump stock so it just slides right off the rear, does that mean it doesn't attach and I'm good?

  • @Paelorian
    @Paelorian 10 месяцев назад +34

    Very interesting concept for quickly stabilizing a handgun. Faster than attaching a stock, and the design is quite concealable. I look forward to the reviews.

    • @920utdoors9
      @920utdoors9 10 месяцев назад

      Nah this is the dumbest thing ever. Granted I love companies peeing in the ATFs cheerios, but this is dumb and silly compared to a flux raider or a proper glock chassis.

  • @larryw5429
    @larryw5429 10 месяцев назад +9

    This seems more like a 39.95 mothers day gift/ hey guys check this out when you're at the range item!

  • @Easy-Eight
    @Easy-Eight 4 месяца назад

    Thanks for the information.

  • @peterstone7901
    @peterstone7901 10 месяцев назад

    I appreciate this content!

  • @MM-op6ti
    @MM-op6ti 10 месяцев назад +16

    Got to meet James at triggercon and it’s no filter folks, he really does look that good 😂

  • @jeremiahcherry5283
    @jeremiahcherry5283 10 месяцев назад +10

    This concept has been around.
    People mocked it before then it was forgotten..

  • @joecitizen6046
    @joecitizen6046 10 месяцев назад +1

    Eleven days ago I ordered and haven't heard a peep from them yet. And I'm from Idaho, just a few miles away from these guys.

  • @0v417
    @0v417 10 месяцев назад +2

    “you’re not bullshitting me?” james asks right before getting bullshitted again🤣

  • @larrycraigrox
    @larrycraigrox 10 месяцев назад +4

    That booth seems to have a glow to it

  • @bobandy5515
    @bobandy5515 10 месяцев назад +12

    The germans have exactly the same thing for glocks. You can get them in the USA through various retailers. 100% considered an NFA item even though the handgun just slips into a groove, not sure how this is different.

    • @evanf1443
      @evanf1443 10 месяцев назад +16

      No groove I think. There’s no “attachment” at all, you’re holding them together within your hand. I think that’s the distinction that’s being made here

    • @m.w.2401
      @m.w.2401 10 месяцев назад +1

      Or you could just put a stock on there like a free American without nfa BS.

  • @quacky8791
    @quacky8791 10 месяцев назад +1

    You have to take this to the range !!!!

  • @ObamaoZedong
    @ObamaoZedong 10 месяцев назад +1

    Add a set of rare earth magnets in the 'not a stock' and the pistol grip for the ultimate game of 'I'm not touching you'

  • @Boatright
    @Boatright 10 месяцев назад +10

    That would work really well with the zeroing of an optic on a pistol. Too bad it is so damned expensive.

  • @jeffhays1968
    @jeffhays1968 10 месяцев назад +13

    There has got to be a 3-D printing file on this already.

    • @jeffsorrows
      @jeffsorrows 10 месяцев назад

      somebody get PSR on this!

    • @jeffhays1968
      @jeffhays1968 10 месяцев назад

      @@jeffsorrows Pretty sure he's too busy trying to copy Hoffman's Super Safety, LOL

    • @jeffsorrows
      @jeffsorrows 10 месяцев назад

      @jeffhays1968 god my guns need one of those, would feel a lot safer with one!

  • @davidbliss8352
    @davidbliss8352 4 месяца назад

    Such a simple solution. Brilliant. Why didn’t anyone think of this till now?

  • @texas66
    @texas66 10 месяцев назад +4

    Shot with one with a Glock at Gunstock Texas, it does work as advertised! I would have a couple at $50 each but it's a hard pass at $130....

  • @highdesertdrew1844
    @highdesertdrew1844 10 месяцев назад +33

    I remember like 20 years ago when the kids were making "bump sticks" which was pretty much this, except allowed you to bumpfire a pistol with relative ease, even if early versions of the contraption made you worry if things were going to break the 180. It's a neat product, but given the regulatory climate, I'm not buying it for $100+, and I'm not buying it online.

    • @KevinHuff23
      @KevinHuff23 10 месяцев назад +8

      God made belt loops to bump fire

    • @highdesertdrew1844
      @highdesertdrew1844 10 месяцев назад +2

      @@KevinHuff23 great for rifles, awkward for pistols.

  • @brandiwynter
    @brandiwynter 10 месяцев назад +6

    Why would federal agencies use this thing if they can carry whatever NFA item they want? I don't see the advantage to a non attached pistol brace over a PDW . As a former LEO I don't see the advantage over carrying an MP7 or even an UZI if you're old school secret service.
    Educate me.

    • @USAFraimius
      @USAFraimius 10 месяцев назад +1

      Because they don't...?
      If you can buy SMGs and PDWs, this doesn't make sense. I doubt any agency actually uses this. The company MIGHT have sent them a sample for testing, and now claims it is "used by ___."

  • @SimondaScissor
    @SimondaScissor 10 месяцев назад

    Grate video!

  • @joecitizen6046
    @joecitizen6046 10 месяцев назад

    For my job, I sit all day. I've been looking for a cool gadget to extend the height the armrest on my chair. Just put a little padding on the top and it makes it to where I don't have to lean over as far to lean on my forearm. Love it. I ordered one just an hour ago. I'll let you know how long it takes to get it shipped.

    • @joecitizen6046
      @joecitizen6046 10 месяцев назад

      They may be back-logged. I ordered four days ago and haven't heard anything about shipping label created or anything regarding shipping.

  • @watariovids1645
    @watariovids1645 10 месяцев назад +21

    I feel like they would probably make more money if they lowered the price a bit so that was in the "impulse" buy range. Maybe their fixed costs for getting the production setup were very high or something but I can't imagine the per unit cost is much.

    • @walkingwolf8072
      @walkingwolf8072 10 месяцев назад +3

      Make as much as possible before the ATF rule that bans it for common people. To be clear, or ATF to be clear has already determined that once you use a pistol as a rifle it is now a short barreled rifle. While a pistol can be made into a rifle, a rifle cannot be made into a legal pistol.

    • @me323me
      @me323me 10 месяцев назад +1

      Is it even made in the USA to slightly justify the price more?

    • @MrZgui415
      @MrZgui415 10 месяцев назад +3

      I was thinking $99 but for a limited time ... 79.99
      then i'll be like okay

    • @kalashnikovbob355
      @kalashnikovbob355 10 месяцев назад

      That only applies to something originally manufactured as a rifle. A handgun can be configured as a rifle and then back to a handgun.@@walkingwolf8072

    • @762x69
      @762x69 10 месяцев назад

      @@MrZgui415i had that in mind too. Kinda weird they didn't even do a promo code but between the last guy speaking and the website itself I think it's all a bit too sketch to make an online purchase at this time..

  • @JaykPuten
    @JaykPuten 10 месяцев назад +3

    With this video a million 3D printers are going "brrrrr"

  • @Arcain321
    @Arcain321 10 месяцев назад +1

    I whole heartedly approve of any company that creates more headaches for the atf. Now if they halved the cost I’d be on board for the novelty alone

  • @samwilliams1142
    @samwilliams1142 10 месяцев назад

    Does it come to fit revolvers and a longer length of pull? I have a 4" 44mag with Pachmyer grip.

  • @tinglemccringleberry8899
    @tinglemccringleberry8899 10 месяцев назад +4

    Yeah if I’m secret service I want one of these over an mp7😂😂😂

  • @NK-rs2jp
    @NK-rs2jp 10 месяцев назад +12

    Uhhhhhh.......well $129 is gonna be a deal breaker for me but I applaud the ingenuity on this. But meanwhile back at the ATF they are going to figure out a way that this is not legal and they don't seem to have gone through the ATF for a letter. This is gonna be fun.

    • @Winters506
      @Winters506 10 месяцев назад

      Absolutely. They have a $50 dollar or less gimmicky piece of plastic on their hands.

  • @HedgehogBarriers
    @HedgehogBarriers 10 месяцев назад

    5:36 The guy in the back was like "oh boy"

  • @chaburchak
    @chaburchak 10 месяцев назад +1

    I had been wondering why someone didn't try something like this. Nice to know others were thinking the same thing...

  • @latinojackson9694
    @latinojackson9694 10 месяцев назад +6

    That guy was really trying to stall saying how overpriced this thing is...

  • @Tokyo_Tru
    @Tokyo_Tru 10 месяцев назад +4

    $130 for a dishwasher utensil divider??

  • @KaletheQuick
    @KaletheQuick 10 месяцев назад

    I love this.
    I literally floated this idea to my 07 FFL friend not two weeks ago.
    Its the zeitgeist.

  • @SuperiorAutocraft
    @SuperiorAutocraft 10 месяцев назад +1

    This is so hilarious. I had already suggested someone would devise something akin to a lance rest to use with buffer tubes. One step closer.

  • @heyhayhay247
    @heyhayhay247 10 месяцев назад +12

    I mean I can definitely see it working, but without handling it, it's hard to say if it would be easy to handle effectively.

    • @yourlocaltoad5102
      @yourlocaltoad5102 10 месяцев назад

      This is just a copy of the Bubits brace which has been on the market for quite some time now.
      I have shot a Glock with the Bubits brace and it does make it easier to stay on target, but using it outside of a range setting would require some training to ensure that you get used to handling and moving the gun with the added length of the brace at the back.

  • @mr.martyr8573
    @mr.martyr8573 10 месяцев назад +6

    There isnt one "Gun Guy" out there like James. Fuckin gives it to Em' straight every time. I indeed shit my pants when I heard 2000 dollars for a piece of fuckin plastic. Lol

    • @762x69
      @762x69 10 месяцев назад +7

      The guy dodging the piss easy question of price and high jacking the conversation from the other two employees were real turn offs..

    • @mr.martyr8573
      @mr.martyr8573 10 месяцев назад +2

      @@762x69 "So..how much is this going to cost?" "Umm...ya see...umm...well The CIA uses it...and umm...see...its not just a piece of plastic....you can drop a brick on it!" Lol....i bet theres someone thats already created a 3D printable version. Lol

  • @BUKREDLINE
    @BUKREDLINE 10 месяцев назад

    I love the “I’m not touching you games” with the ATF

  • @thekraken1173
    @thekraken1173 10 месяцев назад +2

    “I hope there are no lawyers around” said the lawyer calmly

    • @DWalter.27
      @DWalter.27 10 месяцев назад +1

      And notice how he never held it either...

  • @Terran994
    @Terran994 10 месяцев назад +4

    A nice big middle finger to the ATF. It doesn't attach to the gun, and it looks like there's no way to permanently attack it short of superglue lol. Course the ATF did try to argue a shoe string was a machine gun, so.....

  • @nickoloes
    @nickoloes 10 месяцев назад +25

    Once upon a time there was this glove (which didnt attach to the gun obviously) that when you pressed a button turned an electric motor that would push the trigger very fast. As you could imagine, ATF called it a machine gun... good luck to oneshot and hope it turns out for them

  • @Ripp_Glavenhammer
    @Ripp_Glavenhammer 10 месяцев назад

    What about a suppressor that does not attach to the barrel but rather slips over the barrel that you hold tight with a verticle grip that is connected to the can?

  • @bilb0690
    @bilb0690 10 месяцев назад

    He looked a little flustered seeing Jimbo in tiny shorts up close 😂🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

  • @gbgary
    @gbgary 10 месяцев назад +4

    looking forward to your review of this...thing.

  • @Zantar45
    @Zantar45 10 месяцев назад +9

    I remember those cokeheads trying to sell a similar product a year or two ago for like $200-$300
    Cant say I'm surprised they swindled a few grand out of the Cops and Feds for that thing with a camera glued to it.

    • @SelfHandledRogue
      @SelfHandledRogue 4 месяца назад

      yep they look like they are on some for sure. esp with her jaw clenching so much

  • @Daves3DProjects
    @Daves3DProjects 10 месяцев назад

    Brilliant!!

  • @John-lz3hf
    @John-lz3hf 10 месяцев назад

    great job, will order one on Friday

  • @marybaxter2559
    @marybaxter2559 10 месяцев назад +73

    If ATF had there way, they would want to ban/regulate/tax non-dominant hands.... "YOU CAN'T USE TWO HANDS FOR A HANDGUN!!!"

    • @linkinblack371
      @linkinblack371 10 месяцев назад +3

      Assault grip is already banned check your laws. Two handed pistol shooting is a big no no

    • @Zundfolge
      @Zundfolge 10 месяцев назад +7

      They already tried to claim that shouldering a braced pistol was "manufacturing an unregistered SBR".

    • @johnw4999
      @johnw4999 10 месяцев назад +8

      If they had their way, we wouldn’t own firearms - period.

    • @Abattoir667
      @Abattoir667 10 месяцев назад +2

      @@linkinblack371you only shoot a pistol with one hand?

    • @linkinblack371
      @linkinblack371 10 месяцев назад +2

      @@Abattoir667 one handed can hit a squirrel at 500 yds every time...