Star Trek Discovery Season 5 Episode 9 Breakdown & Review!
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- Опубликовано: 21 сен 2024
- I go through the ninth episode for Star Trek Discovery Season 5 Episode 9 entitled "Lagrange Point" give my breakdown and review!
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Did anyone else notice Rayner pull his top down before he sat in the Captains chair? 🤔👍
He did a Picard
Best new character and part
I love Rayner, one of the best characters in Trek.... I wish we could have more ❤
i agree
Maybe in the upcoming Starfleet Academy series.
My favorite parts of this episode is the Saru and T'Rina scenes, I'm more excited to see their wedding than anything else.
same
Adira dropped the shields from the bridge -- Stamets worked to bring down the forcefields around the hangar bay with that maneuver.
Nick, you are point in this review. I completely agree with you in that during a mission, personal feelings should be set aside , with only focus on the mission. I rolled my eyes seeing Book and Burnham discussing their emotions in the corner somewhere, acting not like a Breen...easy way to be caught. The 2 Black hole scenes didn't make sense to me other. It was just an okay episode. I liked seeing Rayner take control and Saru and T'rina showing much respect for one another. Doug Jones absence in this season has been noticeable.
Another excellent video my friend, yours is always the first review I watch because you call it like you see it. I really enjoyed this episode. Discovery has always been hit and miss but this season it has been hitting more than missing, not a bad way to go out. 🖖✌️
The only hitting for me has been hitting my head up against the wall with this crap but glad you enjoyed it.
I met Doug Jones last year at the Creature Feature Convention where my movie was premiering which I assume is when he was gone for filming this show. Sweetest man ever. I have been a fan since he was in the episode "Hush" of "Buffy the Vampire Slayer" and followed him since then. What a talent! And very genuine. He is fantastic on this show and it's incredible how he can convey so much emotion through prosthetics the way that he does.
Nice to see blue phasers again!
Its always like this, they lose a lot of time on unnecessary arcs and when we reach the end of the story they go with it faster than light, many times lacking the necessary explanation over some important pieces of the story.
What happened to Stamets identity crisis and lack of legacy, and Culbers spiritual awakening from earlier this season? No character development again for the cast
It’s all about The Burnham, no one and nothing else matters in this series. It’s even more focused on one single character than shows like Supergirl.
We're talking contractual legal screen now as the show is ending.... :( exept for the lack of forethought in the writing.
It was ok but nice to see Frakes directing it
Sometimes I feel I'm watching that late 70's sitcom: "The Love Boat" instead of a show about a military vessel on a desperate mission. I'm waiting for them to call Booker the name Gopher (a character on The Love Boat). Could you imagine some subordinate telling a commanding officer to sit down on a real military ship? Four relationship story lines in one episode that really nobody cares about.
Starfleet vessels are not military ships.
@@thomashong2938 Yes true, they don't call them that, but they are fully armed. They're not like science vessels and they're definitely not cruise ships. During ST TOS, Enterprise was more like an exploratory vessel but in Discovery it's more about missions and weapons.
But damned you can't just enjoy what you have in front of you !!!
You know we don't care about the Discovery's capabilities in real life, we want spectacle, heroism, before the last episode of the series ! What we want is real captains and strong characters,
and I think Captain Burnham is in the line of strong Starfleet captains ! Instead of detecting the slightest anomaly in the scenario try to appreciate what you have !
I have defended Discovery since day 1 but Christ almighty this episode had some terrible moments. In the middle of a covert mission they have a discussion about their feelings! Somehow their voices can only be heard when they’re not speaking directly to a disco crew member. Why didn’t they beam the tech as soon as it was in space? Utter dross. I don’t even think the series finale will be a good wrap up. I know they got cancelled but there was reshoots to end the series.
Agreed with you plus many more things i could add, last two episodes were really stupid, rushed and predictable
@@lancerzx I LOVE Star Trek and Disco, but these writers are just constantly beyond (something). It have fallen asleep during the past two episodes. Its hard to watch!
And also, correct me if I’m wrong but has there ever been a mention of transwarp tunnels until this episode?
@@jimmynorris1314 tbh I don't remember either, maybe in Voyager with the Borgs tunnels, not quite sure
See, I FORGIVE YOU….if you stop acting like the demanders of quality are Crazy. Don’t get me wrong, Im one of the level headed ones that lost a RUclips account in this war and had a super well known RUclipsr who is one of the toxic critics end a profitable live, based on simple comment about them going overboard. I think that’s how I lost that account. Some of us have stood in the middle sensible and said this stuff since 2 pee streams.
If you think you may die, then talking about yourselves makes sense.
I wonder if the writers were given a hint that this was the final season. Earlier episodes had no sense of urgency yet now there definitely is a feel of time running out.
That view was them manuvering out from the LaGrange point. The angle of the view is what is confusing you. Also, the LaGrange point is not a small point, it is a larger area from which the ship can escape from the extreme graviational forces of both stars.
The transporter buffer is a well established ST trope to preserve individuals over time. That there would be a more portable version, 800 years in the future, is predictable, in fact I thought of that as a possiblility as soon as La'ak died.
The new first officer is a breath of fresh CRISP air!
He's the highlight of this entire season, for me.
LOVE how Discover pulled its necels up and in while going into the breen shuttle bay! LOOKS so much better that way!
Was a pretty good episode, all things considered. Sets up a good battle for the finale.
that shot of the Discovery tearing it's way through that breen ship was the definition of EPIC
Copied from the Enterprise D and the borg cube in Picard S3 no doubt.
@@dannyc2488What's worng about it?
Yeah, but why did the Dreadnought cease fire, once Discovery exited their shuttle bay? Either the Discovery pulled some Star Wars style maneuvers and took out key systems while inside the Breen ship, or it’s just bad writing 🤷🏽♂️
LOVE the tee! Is that available in your shop?
Great video mate, For this episode why was the Breen ship not affected by the black hole (or badlands storms in previous episode). Equally why does it stop firing back once Discovery crew are beamed back off the dreadnaught?
The Book & Burnham moment in the corridor did feel out of place, and I wondered whether that may have been one of the reshoots they did when they found out they were being cancelled after this season; something to close down a story line which had previously been left open.
They did reshoots for the finale.
Great review as always…
I can only think that the chat about emotions on the Breen ship was to potentially set up an emotional scene in the finale… but who knows.
It was a slingshot to get to the null gravity area
That's a great Tshirt...The one I bought had the images fade away after a handful of washes.
Ive had mine for several years and they are still okay. Make sure you wash them inside out.
Not seen this episode but it sounds like the actors are doing the best with what was written for them.
I plan to buy this season on DVD but I don’t love the direction DIS has taken with the triple-tap, overpowered tech. It impacts the stakes in a negative way I feel.
Looking forward to the planned Starfleet Academy series but I was hoping it wouldn’t be set in the 32nd century rather TNG, DS9, VOY or anytime circa then.
Thanks for the review.
I think we will see the end of Mr Saru.
The end of Ambassador Saru and the beginning of Admiral Saru.
Stamets - "On it, commander" Is a sharp bit of writing. The Chief Spore Dude is like the second smartest person on Disco. He's already calculating. This is some good Star Trek. Jett Reno sometimes needs to be fridged.
There would have been no episode of the Breen would just have jumped to warp immediately. It’s all so contrived and convenient to move the plot along. There are never any actual consequences, everything is solved easily by our embodiment of a deus ex machine: the all powerful Burnham.
I think so many things seemed rushed or out of place because the writers have left way too many loose ends hanging out there and they've got to cram the resolution of them into too few episodes.
I kinda laugh at the move between the 2 black holes like what the hell is this scene, thats not the in between 2 blackhole that was like the edge of the one of the blackhole..
It would've been easier to "jump" inside the dreadnaut since there's enough space.
Bad episode, too predictable, rushed and a lot of many none sense like they got there before the Breens and were talking shit then the Breens get there and take the artifact in a second, cmon! anyway, Adira is gonna be the most forgottable character for me in STDisco
So they get there first, and manage to escape a double black hole. And then what? they proceed to have a 10 minute conversation about how fascinating this location is and where the artifact was placed. mind you this is a time sensitive operation all they had to do is extract and black alert out of there. who writes this stuff?
Well done review. The show had me looking at my watch and that is not a good sign.
"Michael Burnham crawled to freedom through five hundred light years of shit smelling foulness I can’t even imagine, or maybe I just don’t want to."
Spock Prime
I disembarked the Disco train after all these years a couple of episodes ago. Looking forward to the Holly Hunter series.
I wonder why STD started with a whole thing about Klingons and now in the 31st century, they´re not even mentioned.
You guys have been bitching about what they did with the Breen for the whole season. A race we knew barely nothing about. Imagine the outcry if they used the Klingons... again!
@@Xerxes2005 So. Angry huh?
They messed up the Klingons from the start, so now they avoid showing them (not at all) & mention them very little (once I think I remember... ?)
@@charlesdp Oh, I'm not the one being angry here. I'm just stating a fact.
I have liked every episode this season except this one. It came off as way too contrived to me with none of the humor landing and the acting was stiff.
I quit watching Discovery a couple of episodes ago. Nothing about it interests me. I do enjoy watching your channel though.
As one might enjoy talking to one’s own reflection.
I'm actually glad it's about to end as I find the main season story really dragging toward the finish line. It’s no Picard season 3, not by a long shot.
The black hole plot was nuts, they're heading for a black hole to get away from a black hole, yet in the shot both black holes are in the background behind Discovery... I think someone goofed. Also whats going on with Burnham's hair? The visuals couldn't keep up with the Breen helmet forming and unforming. And don't get me started with the box, what shuttle is that small?
Finally Dora the explorer in love in space comes to an end 😂😂. Watching every episode is just a waste of time 😅
Tilly: "If we change our heading to 320 mark seven we might get out" - just calculated in her head under stress, that's how the federation always did.
"Hey you, gay dude in engeneering, give us more power", Response nothing, Because he has to tell the doctor about his love - W T F ?
For whatever reason this time there is no auxiliary power to re-route somewhere.
The Breen are closing in fast !
"Ah there it is, what we are searching for, you see there"
The Breen are coming closer...
So lets talk about something nobody cares about, not the captain. She cannot talk, only whisper and hiss.
The Breen are here !
... still babbeling nonsense
Oh no, the Breen got it :(
The whispering captain without a voice since season 1: "We need to get it somehow!", where does she get all this awesome ideas from?
And the plan is ready in zero time. Luckily the Breen are still waiting for nothing - the Breen without a brain.
"We detected a hole in their shields while we were nearly destroyed by them" - and the Breen never noticed that flaw, the same aliens they are so afraid of?
Adira: "Jay, lets go on a suicide mission"
etc etc
who writes such crap ? AI ?
Wooohooo, one more episode and this crappy show is over! Yeah!!!
I have one thing to say about episode 9. TILLY IS A GREAT LEADER?! HAHAHA HAHAHA
Hahahahahaaha. I'm laughing with you. I must say, any Captain that shuts that insubordinate cretin's mouth is the greatest. Kudos to Rayner for having the patience to deal with that Space Gossiper.
Amazing to me that space Jesus Burnham gave away the clue key not realizing it was actually a physical key that she needed? They just copied all the data of the location. Lazy writing.
All I can say is that I find it incredible how these writers find ways to out-suck their suckiness continuously on each and every episode. 2nd last episode and all we get is mostly filler, non-sensical contrivances and another insubordination pie brought to you by the resident marathon runner. Gawd this show is awful!
Filler. Again that empty word. And what should it have been instead, so that it wasn't "filler"?
@@Xerxes2005 Hey, I didn't write the show. And yes, "empty" is a good word. This show is empty of a lot of things. It's empty of logic, continuity, chain of command and the respect that goes along with it, original ideas, development of characters -- I could go on and on. What should it be? Watch any of the classic series and you'll find out. Every action means something to the plot, every decision has real consequences and are not forgotten. Everything is "earned" through time, not through exposition. Deep relationships are formed. We actually care about all of the characters -- even the antagonists. Insightful thought experiments are played out and makes you think well after the episode is over. What did we have in this garbage episode? Cool SFX, a derivative undercover operation we've seen countless times before. And completely irrational decision-making to create suspense at the end of the show. This whole season has been a series of filler episodes teaching us nothing about the characters except at how stunted they are personally at growth -- all, with the exception of Raynor, who act like they are in high school.
@@stopgeorge Irrelevant. A filler episode is an episode that does not advance the plot of the show. I challenge you to find one episode this season that did not advance its plot, that was not about finding the Progenitors' technology. I agree with you that there could be more character development. The problem is the format of the show, which is serialized with short seasons. Previous shows were episodic. There was no plot, no real continuing arc, except in the last few seasons of DS9 with the Dominion War. So, in a way, all episodes were "filler" episodes. You can have a Picard episode, then a Riker one, then a Worf one and so on. If anything, you should want more filler episodes, because in serialized shows it is often in these that you have more character development. If Discovery's seasons had been longer with 24 episodes, there would have been the opportunity, and the necessity, of filler episodes. But in ten, the plot needs to move on. So you don't have the time to explore the past of all the characters, you don't get to meet their families (except for Burnham which is the main character of the show) or to learn about their hobbies. Still, we get more character development than TOS ever did.
Q: Why not just destroy it?
Nick! It's Star Trek! We must suspend disbelief! Just sit back and enjoy! 😆
I have also been one of those defenders of discovery since day one. There have been aspects I love, the modernity, the acting, the character development. So wtf do they introduce these useless characters on the bridge and generic bad guys in the show I couldn't care less about. I want to see the characters I know and love rather than the new background character of the week. After this episode finished I was like wtf, this was awful. So many plot holes. Why didn't they just tractor beam the thing aboard like the breen did. I hate Mal, she is plain boring and I don't want her on screen, and suddenly she is leading a huge warship? And just because people put on masks and use Scifi siri to talk they pass as an alien species? Don't even get me started on not beaming the device aboard once they crashed into the hanger, like what was the point if they didn't do that to beam it out. Literally no point whatsoever. And why do the breen wear masks when on their own ships? Such a lame generic bad guy costume. This episode was simply awful. Each season is so bad, full of plot holes and filler. I couldn't even tell you one crew members name except for Saru and I've been watching this for 5 seasons, and have watched star trek religiously for 30 years and can name all past crew, their personalities, stand out episodes and their family trees. Awful. I'm not against "new trek" I love it. I'm against poor writing and generic end of the universe plot lines.
I found the episode rather disappointing......
I'm disappointed in this last season of Discovery. Just like The Chase from TNG, I think they've written themselves into a corner and there is no way to wrap up this story with a satisfying ending. It's likely going to be just like The Chase, and have some deeper meaning than finding the creation of life itself.
Since The Chase was one of the best episode of TNG, I wouldn't complain.
The best part was the speech at the end. Typical naivety 😂 for Discovery.
I'm glad the series is ending. They could do an episodic series with Captain Rayner. He's been the sole good thing about this final season of Discovery. This series has been dull, poorly paced and badly written.
Rayner is the absolute best in this new universe, along with that Cronenberg's character. Try as I might, I can't think anyone else that is worthwhile. Maybe Saru.
Total BS! Breen ship bigger than a Borg cube! Weren't the Breen defeated by Alpha coalition in the Dom war? They get on to a Breen ship The person who is non binary Idira who seems a bit weedy, is on the Breen Bridge not looking scared! The same person constantly emotional and crying etc. Come on! That Character would be totally paralysed in reality! Also the whole plots is crap! Why would the protogeners leave their TECH around so that some one could discover it and use it in the wrong way? Come on get serious! You have weedy characters always crying emotional etc. taking on might warriors who are ruthless etc. again come on! Janeway was harder than this lot! When she faced anemies or about to face them, she was stern in her approach and demeanour, she didn't show any weakness!
Terrible writing on this show. So incredulous and stupid dialogues. Get me to the end. Sad. This ST had so much potential and it lost its way.
You know I find it hilarious people are complaining about the fact that Captain Burnham gets what they want all the time and in this case and the other episode that she actually is forced to give the clue to the free or they will destroy her and the library and in this case it didn't go smoothly and you guys are still having a hissy fit you guys are not true fans and you're not true sci-fi fans because you enjoy the show because it's fun and entertainment who cares if it's how they do it it's fiction but if you can't understand that then you shouldn't even watch these shows at all
Hahaha 😂
The season 5 is the most terrible Star Trek series ever made in the history of star trek. The story is totally non-sense, very weak story line, and people are still keep expressing their feeling with is totally unwanted by a sci-fi film. Feel like the Amazing Race.... They should fire the writer or the director of the film. It is the latest american junk film as of May 2024.
A terrible star trek series soon to end. Hooray.
😂😂
This was def the worst episode to date in the entire series!!!!!
STD s5 is nothing but a disappointment.
Studio got realize got go back do better job on writing.
My prediction: Inside the progenitor portal is Robo-Picard, and Burnham has to fight him and beats him because she is so great. Before she kills him, she goes into a tearful soliloquy about duty and honor, then something something Stamets kisses Culber. Tilly's weight balloons also., and the facial mole that she had in season 1 reappears. The end.
Soooo wrong.