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I think the only thing that Cher got blatantly wrong was her prejudice towards Travis, that didn't allow her to see he was a much better match for Tai than Elton.
I agree but the whole notion was she was trying to improve Tai on what she think was right/good look It was not until she saw how mean/different Tai got that she realized she created somebody shallow
@@tdreamer25 Yes, I'm aware of that and Travis in Clueless is the equivalent of Emma's Robert Martin. But just like Emma, if there's anything where Cher shows a level of unwarrented shallowness and prejudice is thinking that Travis is beneath her and Tai.
"Searching for a boy in high school is as useless as searching for meaning in a Paulie Shore movie." Cher was not only wise beyond her years, but she was a relatable, naive heroine, and not a vapid mean girl.
Cher is the type of girl everyone around thinks has no sense about how things work but suddenly she says something that makes complete sense of how things actually work.
I'm surprised she was considered an airhead. Honestly, i thought she was very clever, especially when she reflected on an issue and recognized when she was wrong.
It's because aside from liking fashion and caring how she looked and making no attempts to hide that (which traditionally in media either means she's a character that's stupid or a snob), she frames things in terms that make sense to her and her view of the world instead of in fancy-schmancy intellectual terms. . Like her side of the debate against Amber in class was in a teen-lingo dialect of layman's terms, instead of sounding like a thesis essay. She used examples based on her own life instead of citing researched published work to support her opinion. . Yet despite that, she did have an actual argument that if people calmed down and put the effort in to redistribute resources so that, despite the unexpected extra population that "did *not* RSVP", no one would go without, they could "totally party with the Haitians". . And that it did "not say RSVP on the Statue of Liberty" aka refugees and the like could hardly warn in advance that they would unexpectedly need to flee and suddenly turn up here seeking a new and safer life. But America was supposed to be a country that understood that, given the origins of how its European settlers ended up here in the first place. . If I'm remembering that scene accurately, that is, lol.
Cher is a girl’s girl. She understands her power and does not seek to abuse it, rather she uses it to elevate the women close to her. She doesn’t shy away from conflict or disagreement with anyone because if she is talking to you at all, she has placed you on her level.
This movie is tottally underated. Teenage years are about self discovering and evolution. It´s more relatable than Gossip Girl, for example. This is a real history about discovering of love and developing friendship, which is core of high school years.
However I don't think the original Emma character was that naive either. There's a whole scene in the book where Emma and Mr Knightly argue about what a gentleman expects in a wife. And Emma understands that most men want a pretty, young lady who obediently takes directions.
Yes. She est only naïve about men, and fur ibis reasons. She couldn't see through Mr Elton or realise Mr Knightly was her best match, for example. But she could manage her ghastly dad perfectly.
Funnily enough I remember that there was a few ‘there’s no RSVP on the Statue of Liberty’ Signs in 2017 during the travel ban. So Clueless does have some staying power.
I feel blessed to have seen this movie, even if it’s only recently. Also, Alicia Silverstone played her character to perfection. AMY HECKERLING IS A GENIUS
"Cher is different than Emma" Lists things that are the same as in the book. Emma in the book does recognize that she has privilege (hence why she brings food to poor people) and she does things that are kind... even when misguided. Clueless is actually a very good modernized retelling of Emma.
She doesn’t experience people in terms of class- she sees people as relational and reciprocal beings. And she languages things in her own idiosyncratic way breaking down very complex systems in a hip zeitgeisty totally Cher way. Alicia Silvertone’s acting was pitch perfect. Amazing.
EXACTLY!!! lol thank you so much! I don’t think they read the source material and are basing their conclusions based on conclusions of remade movies thru some other director’s perspective.
I really don't like the storylines where teenage daughters step into a caregiving role for their fathers when the mom dies. You can see this in Pretty in Pink and other movies. It's like they are the replacement wife in a weird way
Since "Clueless" is a loose adaptation of "Emma", who also takes care of her widowed father, the element makes sense here. But Heckerling adapted things: Mr. Woodhouse is a widower, the father of two daughters, the elder of whom is married and living away from the Woodhouse home. He has retreated into the kind of hypochondriac who has medical advice for everyone around him. Emma loves and takes care of her father, and Mr. Knightley knows that Mr. Woodhouse is part and parcel of Emma's life. Mr. Woodhouse is truly dependent upon his daughter. Cher's father is different from Mr. Woodhouse: a widower and divorced from a second wife. He has health concerns that Cher keeps an eye on, but is basically healthy, vigorous, and I think he wouldn't give medical advice if you paid him (unless it was part of a law suit). He is aggressively employed as a lawyer, to the extent of bringing coworkers to his house - if his health is hampered, t isn't by hypochondria but by overwork. Despite this, he understands why Josh wants to follow Cher and Christian to the party; and he has a lovely little scene with Cher, when she's at her low point; and he says he knows she takes care of everyone in the house.
What a thoroughly inspiring analysis! Really cuts to the core of what is really the message behind an unlikely balanced privileged girl. She is a great example of someone pleasantly flawed. Thank you for this take!
Excellent video. Clueless is still one of my all-time favorites - highly underrated. The writing and direction are just seamless. And Cher was NOT an easy or simple character - there's so much going on that seems simple but isn't. And this is an excellent analysis. ❤
I think this movie made the popular “mean” girl very realistic where they’re not always outright mean but they are definitely shallow and selfish. But with Cher’s quirks she is very likeable which makes the character arc more enjoyable because you could tell she was already a decent person albeit judgemental. She wasn’t down to earth yet which we can all relate to in high school lol
I watched Clueless and then Gwyneth Paltrow's Emma that came out a year later - laughed so much at the obvious parallels. Both are huge favorites of mine from the 90s.
I found this book Cher's guide to whatever when I was in junior high school. This book was pretty much a handbook of how to navigate life as a teen from Cher's POV. Your video pretty much sums up the whole book ❤
A lot of Cher's values had transitioned into the ABC sitcom, when Rachel Blanchard had the role. In both versions, for someone who was dubbed a "dumb blonde," she was surprisingly astute. She learned the values of altruism, and of self-love, in both iterations. She never came off as snobby, in either version, but as warm and personable. Family and friends were everything to her, and she knew that there was more to life than finding a boyfriend. She didn't always need to go out, to have a good time. Thanks for the video!
If this were to happen in real life where she still struggles to read through social cues as an adult, she may had been diagnosed to NVLD. Nonverbal learning disability (NVLD) is a neurological condition that can persist into adulthood even after many social interactions and learning experiences. Difficulty interpreting body language, facial expressions, tone of voice and other nonverbal signals. Someone with NVLD may have trouble determining emotions, intentions and attitudes from nonverbal behavior alone. That’s why she wasn’t able to pick up that Christian is gay. Even audiences with NVLD were shocked to findout he’s gay, they find him to be “hot” at first, they normally don’t see what non NVLD people see. Imagine the series Ghost Whisperer, the main character as the non-NVLD people, the ghosts are the social cues and those people she’s doing interpretations for on what each ghost are trying tell them are those with NVLD, they can’t see the social cues the same as non-NVLD people.
Can you talk make a video talking about the origins of how birthdays were affected by capitalism and how they're portrayed media differently depending which character's birthday is focused on like how it's rarely to never the bad evil guys even being mentioned anything related to their birthday as if they don't deserve to be celebrated while the good guys get a massive party thrown for them by their friends & family even if they might hate birthdays or simply don't like parties where they're the center of attention especially if they're shy or are an introvert.
The video is wrong, Cher and Emma are the same. Very sharp and aware of how relationships work and the dynamics and nuances that other people are unaware of. The whole reason there is a story is because even someone like Emma gets it wrong otherwise we wouldn't read/watch it.
Saying "cher was right" missing the point if the movie (and rhe novel) she is right most if the time, wich makes her a bit vain, and relletevly unwilling to hear criticism. She is not a dumb blonde, she was mad ti look like a dumb blonde to sell the movie, but she is really smart, that is the point.
If this were real life, sure, you'd be correct. But in film these are traits used to code a character as gay, leftover from the Hays Code era, so I'd say the film was trying to signal he was gay before it was confirmed..
4:30 Are you kidding? On TV they are talking about war on Balkans and she responds " I thought they declared peace on the Middle-East". These are two different regions in the world!! How can The Take be so stupid to say she was smart about THAT specifically?
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Clueless is one of those films that gets a lot of sexist flak. It doesn't help that the Netflix version seems to remove important scenes to the plot, rendering it to look like a worse movie than it is in reality. Because it's an amazing film, and in many ways too. Thank you for sharing this take!!
@@annaeverette8960 The scene where she gets her driver's license is the first one that comes to mind. It's crucial to Cher realizing what it is she can accomplish if she can get into the zone and focus. And they cut it. Others were cut too, but I don't recall anymore, it's been awhile since I watched it.
Cher is a beautiful and kind soul who uses her power, influence, wealth, and popularity for good. Her heart was always in the right place even when she made mistakes along the way. Her naiveté in certain things and vulnerability are endearing. 🤍
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Elle Woods and Cher Horowitz are like soul sisters.
Totally! They’d be friends for sure
100% agreed 🫶🏼🌹 I wish I could heart this comment! ❤
What’s similar about them?
I think the only thing that Cher got blatantly wrong was her prejudice towards Travis, that didn't allow her to see he was a much better match for Tai than Elton.
I think that was one of the things that was part of her character arch.
I agree but the whole notion was she was trying to improve Tai on what she think was right/good look It was not until she saw how mean/different Tai got that she realized she created somebody shallow
I think that was based on Emma storyline. It shows that while she had good intentions she was careless
@@tdreamer25 Yes, I'm aware of that and Travis in Clueless is the equivalent of Emma's Robert Martin. But just like Emma, if there's anything where Cher shows a level of unwarrented shallowness and prejudice is thinking that Travis is beneath her and Tai.
@@paulojrneto they’re not meant to be perfect protagonists but people that end up seeing the error on their ways, that’s the plot
"Searching for a boy in high school is as useless as searching for meaning in a Paulie Shore movie." Cher was not only wise beyond her years, but she was a relatable, naive heroine, and not a vapid mean girl.
totally! :)
It’s true post high school as well
Cher is the type of girl everyone around thinks has no sense about how things work but suddenly she says something that makes complete sense of how things actually work.
Like Phoebe! 😅
I'm surprised she was considered an airhead. Honestly, i thought she was very clever, especially when she reflected on an issue and recognized when she was wrong.
It's because aside from liking fashion and caring how she looked and making no attempts to hide that (which traditionally in media either means she's a character that's stupid or a snob), she frames things in terms that make sense to her and her view of the world instead of in fancy-schmancy intellectual terms.
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Like her side of the debate against Amber in class was in a teen-lingo dialect of layman's terms, instead of sounding like a thesis essay. She used examples based on her own life instead of citing researched published work to support her opinion.
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Yet despite that, she did have an actual argument that if people calmed down and put the effort in to redistribute resources so that, despite the unexpected extra population that "did *not* RSVP", no one would go without, they could "totally party with the Haitians".
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And that it did "not say RSVP on the Statue of Liberty" aka refugees and the like could hardly warn in advance that they would unexpectedly need to flee and suddenly turn up here seeking a new and safer life. But America was supposed to be a country that understood that, given the origins of how its European settlers ended up here in the first place.
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If I'm remembering that scene accurately, that is, lol.
"Honey I couldn't be happier than if they were based on real grades" is my favourite quote from the movie 😂
Cher is the perfect example of "Don't judge a book by it's cover".
Cher is a girl’s girl. She understands her power and does not seek to abuse it, rather she uses it to elevate the women close to her. She doesn’t shy away from conflict or disagreement with anyone because if she is talking to you at all, she has placed you on her level.
This movie is tottally underated. Teenage years are about self discovering and evolution. It´s more relatable than Gossip Girl, for example. This is a real history about discovering of love and developing friendship, which is core of high school years.
However I don't think the original Emma character was that naive either. There's a whole scene in the book where Emma and Mr Knightly argue about what a gentleman expects in a wife. And Emma understands that most men want a pretty, young lady who obediently takes directions.
Yes. She est only naïve about men, and fur ibis reasons. She couldn't see through Mr Elton or realise Mr Knightly was her best match, for example. But she could manage her ghastly dad perfectly.
Clueless was THE teen zeitgeist film of the 90s, shaped the pop culture of the gen x - xennials
That capoeira karate movie is more fitting for 90s teen zeitgeist 😭😭😭
"What's for us won't go by us"
Beautiful and true
Funnily enough I remember that there was a few ‘there’s no RSVP on the Statue of Liberty’ Signs in 2017 during the travel ban. So Clueless does have some staying power.
I'd love to see a video on how Cat Stratford was right about everything.
YES YES YES YES
I feel blessed to have seen this movie, even if it’s only recently. Also, Alicia Silverstone played her character to perfection.
AMY HECKERLING IS A GENIUS
"Cher is different than Emma"
Lists things that are the same as in the book.
Emma in the book does recognize that she has privilege (hence why she brings food to poor people) and she does things that are kind... even when misguided.
Clueless is actually a very good modernized retelling of Emma.
She doesn’t experience people in terms of class- she sees people as relational and reciprocal beings.
And she languages things in her own idiosyncratic way breaking down very complex systems in a hip zeitgeisty totally Cher way. Alicia Silvertone’s acting was pitch perfect. Amazing.
EXACTLY!!! lol thank you so much! I don’t think they read the source material and are basing their conclusions based on conclusions of remade movies thru some other director’s perspective.
Cher is still one of (if not *the*) my favourite movie charachters. I believe she sort of subconsciously influenced me when I was a teenager.
I love Cher and Dionne together. So cute (and hilarious!) ❤
I really don't like the storylines where teenage daughters step into a caregiving role for their fathers when the mom dies. You can see this in Pretty in Pink and other movies. It's like they are the replacement wife in a weird way
Since "Clueless" is a loose adaptation of "Emma", who also takes care of her widowed father, the element makes sense here. But Heckerling adapted things:
Mr. Woodhouse is a widower, the father of two daughters, the elder of whom is married and living away from the Woodhouse home. He has retreated into the kind of hypochondriac who has medical advice for everyone around him. Emma loves and takes care of her father, and Mr. Knightley knows that Mr. Woodhouse is part and parcel of Emma's life. Mr. Woodhouse is truly dependent upon his daughter.
Cher's father is different from Mr. Woodhouse: a widower and divorced from a second wife. He has health concerns that Cher keeps an eye on, but is basically healthy, vigorous, and I think he wouldn't give medical advice if you paid him (unless it was part of a law suit). He is aggressively employed as a lawyer, to the extent of bringing coworkers to his house - if his health is hampered, t isn't by hypochondria but by overwork. Despite this, he understands why Josh wants to follow Cher and Christian to the party; and he has a lovely little scene with Cher, when she's at her low point; and he says he knows she takes care of everyone in the house.
Maybe it's not a storyline, but real life
Hey, expensive skis can be sold, and the money used for necessities.
What a thoroughly inspiring analysis! Really cuts to the core of what is really the message behind an unlikely balanced privileged girl. She is a great example of someone pleasantly flawed. Thank you for this take!
Yep Cher was a very good well rounded character and grades can be negotiable sometimes lol.
Excellent video. Clueless is still one of my all-time favorites - highly underrated. The writing and direction are just seamless. And Cher was NOT an easy or simple character - there's so much going on that seems simple but isn't. And this is an excellent analysis. ❤
I think this movie made the popular “mean” girl very realistic where they’re not always outright mean but they are definitely shallow and selfish. But with Cher’s quirks she is very likeable which makes the character arc more enjoyable because you could tell she was already a decent person albeit judgemental. She wasn’t down to earth yet which we can all relate to in high school lol
I watched Clueless and then Gwyneth Paltrow's Emma that came out a year later - laughed so much at the obvious parallels. Both are huge favorites of mine from the 90s.
I hope they don't remake this movie
Please no. The new Cher would likely be an influencer. 😑
NOOO WHY WOULD U SAY THAT DONT SPEAK IT INTO EXISTENCE LMAO
I found this book Cher's guide to whatever when I was in junior high school. This book was pretty much a handbook of how to navigate life as a teen from Cher's POV. Your video pretty much sums up the whole book ❤
A lot of Cher's values had transitioned into the ABC sitcom, when Rachel Blanchard had the role. In both versions, for someone who was dubbed a "dumb blonde," she was surprisingly astute. She learned the values of altruism, and of self-love, in both iterations. She never came off as snobby, in either version, but as warm and personable. Family and friends were everything to her, and she knew that there was more to life than finding a boyfriend. She didn't always need to go out, to have a good time. Thanks for the video!
5:14 Miss Redistributive Economic Policy herself ❤
No one ever thought of Cher as a dumb blonde…
She's a good example to teenage girls, I wish they would emulate her instead of characters like Blair Waldorf
Gosh I miss Brittany Murphy man. She would have won multiple Oscars by now.
My crush when I was younger. Her and winona ryder
I mean it really doesn't say RSVP on the Statue of Liberty!
I love this channel 🥰🥰
If this were to happen in real life where she still struggles to read through social cues as an adult, she may had been diagnosed to NVLD. Nonverbal learning disability (NVLD) is a neurological condition that can persist into adulthood even after many social interactions and learning experiences. Difficulty interpreting body language, facial expressions, tone of voice and other nonverbal signals. Someone with NVLD may have trouble determining emotions, intentions and attitudes from nonverbal behavior alone. That’s why she wasn’t able to pick up that Christian is gay. Even audiences with NVLD were shocked to findout he’s gay, they find him to be “hot” at first, they normally don’t see what non NVLD people see. Imagine the series Ghost Whisperer, the main character as the non-NVLD people, the ghosts are the social cues and those people she’s doing interpretations for on what each ghost are trying tell them are those with NVLD, they can’t see the social cues the same as non-NVLD people.
cult classic...underrated film.
This and mean girls are polar opposites. Theres a thesis
I love this movie acila silver stone and Paul Rudd very great with their character clueless
Cher is so perceptive and airy she must be a air sign ❤
Such a Queencard Move
Awesome video. Totally brill. ❤
I wonder if there’d been a second Clueless movie, she would’ve been the first Legally Blonde character.
Can you talk make a video talking about the origins of how birthdays were affected by capitalism and how they're portrayed media differently depending which character's birthday is focused on like how it's rarely to never the bad evil guys even being mentioned anything related to their birthday as if they don't deserve to be celebrated while the good guys get a massive party thrown for them by their friends & family even if they might hate birthdays or simply don't like parties where they're the center of attention especially if they're shy or are an introvert.
I actually love Cher
I love cher! I love Brittney Murphy and alicia Silverstone. I love clueless! ❤❤❤
I adore this movie!
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Not very bright??? Honey she was the best one in the geometry class
Idk I think hooking up with your step brother is a bit odd if not wrong 😂
EX step brother
The video is wrong, Cher and Emma are the same. Very sharp and aware of how relationships work and the dynamics and nuances that other people are unaware of. The whole reason there is a story is because even someone like Emma gets it wrong otherwise we wouldn't read/watch it.
"It does not say RSVP on the Statue of Liberty!"
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Saying "cher was right" missing the point if the movie (and rhe novel) she is right most if the time, wich makes her a bit vain, and relletevly unwilling to hear criticism. She is not a dumb blonde, she was mad ti look like a dumb blonde to sell the movie, but she is really smart, that is the point.
Christian was not OBVIOUSLY gay. He has an interest in fashion, art and classic movies. That says absolutely nothing about his sexual orientation
If this were real life, sure, you'd be correct. But in film these are traits used to code a character as gay, leftover from the Hays Code era, so I'd say the film was trying to signal he was gay before it was confirmed..
The early 2000s and late 1990s relied heavily on stereotypes
Him flirting with the bartender at the party and leaving Cher to dance with the boy were the "obvious" bits.
@@rosegirl3220this movie is from the 90’s. But even so, what wat so stereotypically gay about that character? (Ok, thnx for editing the timeframe)
@@FTLNewsFeedseemed to me that he was just talking to them. How was he flirting ?
Emma (2009, BBC) is waaaaaay more better ❤
Why does the narrator kinda talk like Cher looll (not hate)
4:30 Are you kidding? On TV they are talking about war on Balkans and she responds " I thought they declared peace on the Middle-East". These are two different regions in the world!!
How can The Take be so stupid to say she was smart about THAT specifically?
As if
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Which church are you going to that has you commenting like this. Curious, or did you JUST join one recently
Clueless is one of those films that gets a lot of sexist flak. It doesn't help that the Netflix version seems to remove important scenes to the plot, rendering it to look like a worse movie than it is in reality. Because it's an amazing film, and in many ways too. Thank you for sharing this take!!
No way. Which scenes did they cut?
@@annaeverette8960 The scene where she gets her driver's license is the first one that comes to mind. It's crucial to Cher realizing what it is she can accomplish if she can get into the zone and focus. And they cut it.
Others were cut too, but I don't recall anymore, it's been awhile since I watched it.
Cher is a beautiful and kind soul who uses her power, influence, wealth, and popularity for good. Her heart was always in the right place even when she made mistakes along the way. Her naiveté in certain things and vulnerability are endearing. 🤍
Amber struggles with metaphors.
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