The main reason of better noise rejection in dynamic mics is... you should (and could) be closer to the capsule. Less sensitivity in dynamic mics = shorter distance = better signal to noise ratio (your voice will be much stronger than room sound); this is "the secret" of better noise rejection. If you speak from the same distance, it will be almost the same.
In My opinion the "secret" is not proximity, "swallowing the mic". The elimination of background noise through room treatments and filters/plugins is the solution. Sitting on top of a mic does nothing to get rid of background noise, it's still there but not as in the face like your mic is. In recordings you will have to fix it to make it sound great. For on air creators, i.e. streamers that do not have a post recording to fix, you have to concentrate on solutions known to help audio before going "live", reducing noise best you can is the way to approach it.
@@feyvreIf the condenser is designed for the purpose, I guess. Maybe stage condensers are a good answer for project studios? If not, I'd like to know why not!
SM-7B made the clicking less distracting, but that's because it's a darker mic. The high end on the other two mics is boosted so the high end of the clicking could be heard more clearly. As far as which rejects background noise better, they all sounded about the same volume wise, but the frequencies were slightly different is all.
bruh, this is a very creative presentation. as a performing artist, i can appreciate the artistry that was put into this comparison. thank you.
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I think people often overlook the polarpattern consistency of a mic. Some cardioid mics only have a cardioid pattern at 1khz and turn omni at the lows and hypercardioid in the 10khz and above region. Especially on drum mics with the cymbals in the back of the capsules these differences can be pretty drastic.
Type of microphone is less important than other factors such as frequency curve and polar pattern. The hints are pretty accurate, but in any scenario it’s best to get the microphone as close as possible and use breath and wind filters. Edit: for spoken word, processing to narrow the bandwidth is generally helpful, as well.
I never understood why people like you who think they know everything find themselves on teaching or tutorial videos? If you know so much, why seek out videos like this?
mic type seems to have more bearing on the frequency spectrum of the background noise. darker sounding mics seem to make the keyboard clicking less distracting. I am using a Samson Mike C03 condenser suspended on a relescopic arm which is slightly above my sightline. also voicemeeter with moderate gate settings. I think 2 things can be distracting - to much high frequency content and overcompressing which will lead to a "breathy" environment. So when streaming (or doing video conferences), a low pass filter and a gate is always a good idea - much different requirements from a vocal performance in a Song production where we need maximum bandwidth and fix problems later.
THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU for a fresh breeze of sanity =) Seriously, I can’t count how many times I’ve tried to explain to people that background noise rejection is not really what separates dynamic from condenser mics. I’ve mixed in live scenarios in which a condenser mic was actually the better choice even though it DID pick up more stage bleed, because it had a much more neutral off axis sound than any dynamic option. But sadly, a lot of people rely on hearsay and don’t think about frequency dependent polar patterns that much.
Thank goodness somebody is telling the truth about condenser microphones and background noise. I’m so sick of hearing in video after video how dynamics are better at rejecting background noise.
This is a cool video and I actually had to test this out myself. My final conclusions after testing tons of dynamic mics and condenser mics is that condensers and dyanmics can be at the same volume - but not the same detail. So condensers pick up more detail. More of the annoying sounds. ie put your LCT 440 pure and SM7B in a bathroom, turn on the water, what picks up the water? The 440 pure. Turn on a vaccuum. What picks up more of that. The LCT 440 Pure. Condensers pick up more of the annoying sounds.
Thanks for sharing your thoughts! Yes, condenser pick up more high end detail which can make background noise more noticeable. So there are trade offs to consider. Most modern vocal production requires a higher level of detail/presence so even if you record with a dark dynamic you will be boosting the high end in the mix and boosting the noise up with it.
It’s really refreshing hearing a company actually address this myth properly. Here’s another thing to consider.. a lot of noise also comes from the preamp and gain, especially with inexpensive interfaces, so using a gain-hungry mic like an SM7b may introduce MORE noise than an condenser. I did a video on this and people still argue it’s about “how you use them”, but I get right up on condenser mics all the time and they handle it just fine.
For house bands and bands playing small venues with the monitors nearby, you absolutely want a cardioid mic. Cardioid mics are BEST for cutting down on feedback and crowd noise bleeding into the mic. Super-cardioid mics cause more feedback.
Thanks for sharing your experience! Super cardioid can work wonders to reduce bleed into the vocal mic (with the right monitoring setup) but Cardioid is definitely a great option for most senarios
Yes, agreed, Super cardioid can work wonders to reduce bleed into the vocal mic. But I am talking about not so much stage bleed, as much as feedback. If monitors are nearby, cardioid is the way to go. If you are recording the session, yes cardioid will add a tad more stage bleed to the mic mix. @@LEWITT-audio
So interesting! As many have said, the main difference seems to just be frequency response instead of actual noise rejection. Definitely debunks the idea that your need a dynamic mic for recording vocals in an untreated room
I once was very determined to investigate this belief. And I have even a-mailed Lewitt support and exchanged a few very meaningful e-mails. The concluiosn was that it is not a rule, but a correlation. Big diaphragm condensers have wider directionality in the lower frequencies. But small diaphragm are as good as dynamics. Another thing is the frequency response with less of high frequencies which may lead to a bit lower perception of reverb and space. There is also the case impact which is also usually different between dynamics and large diaphragm condensers. Plus, of course the distance from the sound source, which tends to be higher in a typical use of dynamic microphone due to the casing shape. So the main conclusion was that small diaphragm condensers are basically as good as dynamics at rejecting room reverb or noise.
I wound up buying an LCT440 Pure for three reasons: 1. Excellent detailed sound, 2. Reputation for good room rejection for a condenser, 3. incredibly low self-noise. I wanted one cardioid large diaphragm condenser that would do it all (vocals, voiceover, instruments) for
Thank you for making a fair comparison despite being a brand that sells products that competes against the "benchmark". In my opinion, for the specific use case, the Shure SM7B is better (is it a better value thought? IMHO, not really) but that is due to its inheritant low sensitivity. If you somehow have a treated room, condenser mics would be generally better as they allow for more details to come through as well as more distance between the signal and the capsule. Guys, whenever you're trying to buy a mic KNOW THE ROOM you will use and WHAT you will use it for. To me, it was cheaper to sell my Rode NT1 and buy a shure than to reflection-proof my new room with acoustic foams/pannels. If you want to sing and have as much nuance as possible, a treated room + condenser will be better than a treated room+ dynamic mic (as a general rule). I switched from a Rode NT1 (the black one) to a Shure SM7B because I moved to a different house and in my new home "studio" I didn't have any bookshelves or furniture to block the reflections and the cost for the switch was only 50 Canadian Rubles in the used market. Remember folks, you don't need to overspend, learning proper recording technique + post production will generally yield better results than throwing money at studio gear without learning how to use them.
The most important thing for us is that our fans can make informed decisions when it comes to choosing the right microphones, so we try to give them the full picture in our videos. The end goal should always be simply good sound. 😉 Thanks for sharing your wise words in your comment, we're sure that a lot of people looking for a setup upgrade are going to appreciate it!
Damn I didn't even have to guess Mic1/2/3 obvious which ones are which. The problem is not necessarily what you hear when you are like just pluggin these into the amp but once you start layering everything with processing. It's much easier to make condenser flat and you'll easily hear all the stuff of the room and like a crane near your house or something with dynamics they are much less sensitive.
I like this, but it's only one part of the equation. I wish you did a comparison for how voice sounds in a big untreated room with the different mics. Will it sound echo-ey, or wouldn't it matter as long as your close to the mic?
We did use a large untreated office space that has a ton of hard surfaces. Being close to the mic creates a lot of isolation from background ambience (at the expense of clarity due to proximity effect).
A friend of my told me he was not a fan of SM7B because of the gain, which is fairly low compared to other mics out there. According to him, you need to be really up close with your mouth to make it sound good. He works in a radio station and is also a sound engineer. That was a surprise for me, as this very mic is said to be "the one" when it comes to radio dj's, podcasters and so on.
So many people choose the SM7B for that radio/broadcaster voice. Worst thing is a good microphone used in a poorly treated environment can sound as bad as a budget microphone.
I don't think one is better. Based on what I heard though, it sounds like the keys were over all 'lower' in sound on the sm7b to me so I think I could edit then out more easily. That might be the slight difference in position or something though. Or just my ears expecting something
Shure SM7b was my choice on both tests. Only on the typing only part- I did not have a preference on the voice+ typing. The MTP550dm had way too much low end, test 2, typing only. Thanks for level matching. I think you are correct when compensation for dynamic mic's lower output levels are to bring it closer to the source.
I assumed 2 was the SM7B because it was louder in my headphones, lol. Got the Lewitt Dynamic and Condenser backwards. I also had psychologically attached 1 to the condenser, 2 to the SM7B and 3 to the handheld due to the order they were introduced in the video.
As others pointed out, I agree that it seems to be more a matter of frequencies in that background noise. So in this case I would go with the LCT 440 PURE (which I love 🥰) and apply a low pass filter.
Hi ma'am, I am beginner. I want to record my written poetry professionally. In which my line will go in high tone and will also come in low tone. Tell me such mic and audio interface. So that I can record and mix later. But my room is not sound proof. My total budget is $300. A shopkeeper told me that you cannot do recording with dynamic mic. Please tell me what should I do. Which mic and audio interface should I buy? After buying which I do not regret.
With your given budget, you should look at the LCT 240 PRO. Great vocal/voiceover mic. For interfaces, our CONNECT 6 interface is a bit too expensive for your current budget. But you could look at a number of great affordable options with less features... Elgato Wave XLR and Focusrite Scarlett Solo come to mind
First of all thank you very much for the video! I am surprised by how bad the noise rejection is on that handheld dynamic mic, and by how good it is on that Dynamic mic. I wonder if that Dynamic mic has a higher noise rejection than typical condenser mics such as the Blue Yeti. I wonder how a Blue Yeti condenser mic would fare against, say, a Shure SM57 dynamic mic, which is typically used in very noisy environments. :D
All cardiod mics, aside from ones with anomalous quirks in their polar pattern are close to identical for the range of sound frequencies that present themselves in an end users home.
Thanks for the video, always entertaining. Being a drummer I’m always struggling with reducing hi hat bleed from the snare mic. In this situation a dynamic mic is the only choice for reducing unwanted sound, true?
Ein herzliches Servus nach Wien! Ich bin längst ein Fan Eurer Mikros und besitze schon einige für mein Schlagzeug und fürs Homestudio. Ich mag diesen modernen, crispen und detaillierten Sound! Um so niederschmetternder war es für mich, ein Mikrofon von dem großen Konkurrenten aus Amerika kaufen zu müssen, DENN... IHR HABT KEIN DYNAMISCHES HEADSET MIKRO FÜR SINGENDE DRUMMER... ...in Eurem Produktangebot !?? Was könnt Ihr zu Eurer Verteidigung sagen? Ein "es wird bald eins geben" ist eigentlich die einzige, mögliche Antwort... Macht weiter so, Preis/Leistung/Design ist einfach top! Viele Grüße aus Hessen PS: Nervt Euch das nicht auch, wenn man Headset Mic und InEars quasi um seine Ohren "wickeln" muss und sich die Kabel und Gestänge im Weg sind, gerade wenn man dann noch kleine Ohren hat oder eine Brille trägt, oder mal kurz noch Bier holen wollte...? Hier ist, glaube ich, viel Platz für kreatives Design... --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- A hearty hello to Vienna! I have been a fan of your mics for a long time and already own some for my drums and home studio. I like this modern, crisp and detailed sound! So it was all the more devastating for me to have to buy a microphone from the big competitor from America, because... YOU DON'T HAVE A DYNAMIC HEADSET MIC FOR SINGING DRUMMERS.... in your product range !?? What can you say in your defence? A "there will be one soon" is really the only possible answer.... Keep up the good work, price/performance/design is simply top! Many greetings from Hessen/Germany PS: Doesn't it also annoy you when you have to "wrap" the headset mic and InEars around your ears and the cables and rods get in the way, especially if you have small ears or wear glasses, or just go to get a beer...? I think there is a lot of room for creative design here. Translated with www.DeepL.com/Translator (free version)
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Would I be the first to mention the differences in polar patterns of each mic, specifically the frequency responses behind them and the optimum rejection angles at various frequencies? This partly accounts for the differences we hear. Another related part are the reflections off of the display screens and the angles that they arrive at the mics.
Yes you're right, although in this test we tried to eliminate those variables in order to answer the basic question of whether the transducer type matters as much as we assume.
Hi there, thanks for your comment. Although the desk stand of the dynamic microphone picks up a lot of structure born noise, the desk mounts for the other two mics are very similar when you measure them. But it is true that this was not very visible in the video. Thanks for your feedback! Cheers from Vienna! 😊
The 440's noise rejection is great. Honestly thought it was mic 2 in the 2nd test, with the AC heard in full force. Edit: It could be the rumble of the keys being tapped, but eh, still, the 440 rejected it nicely.
Hello, I really prefers the 440 Pure. Can you please tells us what audio interface do you use ? Thank you so much for giving this important information.
For this application and rejection of keyboard click clack I’d go for an SM7B in both examples sorry guys. But. The 440 sounded wayyy better on the voice with the extra detail, particularly in high frequencies. The handheld mic very obviously picked up the AC/computer noises and had lots of low rumble.
It's fine, we still love you! 😉 But all jokes aside, we just want you guys to be able to form your own opinions and make informed decisions, so we're absolutely fine with you having your own preferences!
from my inaccurate ears, it sounds like they all have the same noise rejection, but the detail of a condenser makes it more prominent. so rejection isn't the problem, it's how the hardware deals with the sounds that aren't rejected. ;-;
my surroundings are very noisy and I am a beginner who wants to do voiceover. So i need both better voice range and noise cancellation. I heard for dynamic microphones you have to be loud but during voiceover, there are certain text for which audio has to be low. Can you suggest me a microphone which balances out both and is affordable. That would be great help. Thanks!
Hi there, thanks for your comment. In general, the LCT440 PURE is a great budget friendly choice for voice-over recordings. But you will have to work in quiet places. That doesn't mean that you need an isolation booth, but maybe you can improve your environment with some easy fixes. Can you specify, what you mean by noisy surroundings? Cheers from Vienna!😊
Mic placement or distance is the best way to isolate. Cardoid mics have great rear rejection so you can angle them upward to isolate your voice from keyboard sounds. Also, the closer you are to the microphone the more isolated your voice will be from background noise. Experiment to see what sounds best
How about you do a test where you live by the roadside. Most of the people have living conditions where they can hear cars, motorcycles outside, and the fan noise. The untreated room in the video is still way far from the normal.
It would be interesting how those microphones behave in a live setting with drums, amplifiers and wedge monitors. I am singing in very loud rock band and have experimented a lot to find a microphone, that is great sounding as well as having as much rejection possible. Condenser microphones (even handheld condensers) are so nasty in this regard - I mean I love their sound, but it is impossible to use them without screwing the whole FOH mix with all their bleed (when used as vocal mic).
In general, also a condenser microphone can have good rejection in a live setting. As others said here, it's not only a matter of sensitivity but also how the capsule rejects different frequencies. This can be tuned, and it varies from model to model across different manufacturers. The dynamic MTP 550 DM featured in the video works for many live musicians. Maybe you want to give it a try.
An old fashioned trick for loud bands was to parallel two microphones out of phase next to each other and sing into one while the other only picks up the ambient sounds. The out of phase cancels out the background. That’s sort of how cardioid directional mics work, by mechanically subtracting the sounds from the rear.
I just picked up the LCT440 and I only use 20dB of gain and it is not perfect in my untreated space, compared to SM7B a fist away from my mouth, also the condenser is still extremely sensitive to anything in front and behind the mic even on such a low gain on my GOXLR
@@luk7n The 30 dB difference sounds accurate taking into the account the extremely low sensitivity of the SM7B. Try to compare the mics at the same distance and let us know if things have gotten better. Also consider that the capsule of the SM7 sits a few centimeters behind the foam ;)
@@LEWITT-audio I already did it, and I know about the capsule, my problem is that you claim the 440 pure is better than the SM7b, but that is not true, love the sound of the Lewitt but its extremely sensitive to any background noise, even on noise gate set to -40dB it picks up sound of my keyboard and stuff. I already returned the Lewitt
Sorry to hear you returned it 😔. but we're happy you found a solution that works in your environment. We're not claiming any mic is better in this video, only to provide education and a fun experiment! We hope that you end up using our mics again down the line. Cheers!
there are only two things better than my LCT040 match microphones and that is 2 marias! the handheld had the slight edge over the pure the shure had mor rumble in the low end i think some of these shure fan bois need to get their ears checked
I have a feeling that the implications of uttering "let's get ready to rumble" on distributed media are not fully understood by your legal and production teams....
@@riangarianga it's probably the most sued-over trademarked phrase in US history. I don't think they're going too come after this little video, of course. It is registered in multiple countries at this point, and the owners made more money suing over it than actually saying it themselves at this point. It may not be "a thing" in the country this video was made in, nor may it be actionable even if it were, as the video is in a different sphere: music technology. However, saying it is shyed away from in the media industry by-in-large.
Stupid. it is not a all the question of the technology of the microphone (condenser, Electret or dynamic), but their directivities (omni, cardioid, hypercardioid) , and the localisation and kind of the ambiant noise in the space. And, more than that, the linearity of the response curve outside from the axe od the mic. A distorted background noise, even at a lower level can be more annoying than a natural one. It is important in studio, where parasitic capture of other instruments at proximity interfere with their own tracks you'd like to keep alone.
In our conclusion, we found that neither condenser nor dynamic is inherently "better" at noise rejection. Watch the video and let us know what you think!
Finally a FRESH approach to video and demos from a pro audio company. Kudos! Loved Maria's style here! XD
Thanks for the kind words!
The main reason of better noise rejection in dynamic mics is... you should (and could) be closer to the capsule. Less sensitivity in dynamic mics = shorter distance = better signal to noise ratio (your voice will be much stronger than room sound); this is "the secret" of better noise rejection. If you speak from the same distance, it will be almost the same.
you can get closer in the same way with a condenser microphone and lower the gain?
In My opinion the "secret" is not proximity, "swallowing the mic". The elimination of background noise through room treatments and filters/plugins is the solution. Sitting on top of a mic does nothing to get rid of background noise, it's still there but not as in the face like your mic is. In recordings you will have to fix it to make it sound great. For on air creators, i.e. streamers that do not have a post recording to fix, you have to concentrate on solutions known to help audio before going "live", reducing noise best you can is the way to approach it.
@@feyvreIf the condenser is designed for the purpose, I guess. Maybe stage condensers are a good answer for project studios?
If not, I'd like to know why not!
@@feyvresome mic has some unpleasant proximity effects? I guess.
440 Pure is easily one of my favorite affordable condensers on the planet. Thanks Lewitt.
We're happy to hear that you like it so much! 💚
SM-7B made the clicking less distracting, but that's because it's a darker mic. The high end on the other two mics is boosted so the high end of the clicking could be heard more clearly. As far as which rejects background noise better, they all sounded about the same volume wise, but the frequencies were slightly different is all.
bruh, this is a very creative presentation. as a performing artist, i can appreciate the artistry that was put into this comparison. thank you.
I think people often overlook the polarpattern consistency of a mic. Some cardioid mics only have a cardioid pattern at 1khz and turn omni at the lows and hypercardioid in the 10khz and above region. Especially on drum mics with the cymbals in the back of the capsules these differences can be pretty drastic.
Absolutely!
Type of microphone is less important than other factors such as frequency curve and polar pattern. The hints are pretty accurate, but in any scenario it’s best to get the microphone as close as possible and use breath and wind filters.
Edit: for spoken word, processing to narrow the bandwidth is generally helpful, as well.
I never understood why people like you who think they know everything find themselves on teaching or tutorial videos? If you know so much, why seek out videos like this?
Awesome video! I thought the difference would be much bigger! I have to listen to it on our studio monitors again ;)
mic type seems to have more bearing on the frequency spectrum of the background noise. darker sounding mics seem to make the keyboard clicking less distracting. I am using a Samson Mike C03 condenser suspended on a relescopic arm which is slightly above my sightline. also voicemeeter with moderate gate settings.
I think 2 things can be distracting - to much high frequency content and overcompressing which will lead to a "breathy" environment. So when streaming (or doing video conferences), a low pass filter and a gate is always a good idea - much different requirements from a vocal performance in a Song production where we need maximum bandwidth and fix problems later.
All good points! I hope you found our test helpful. 😄
THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU for a fresh breeze of sanity =) Seriously, I can’t count how many times I’ve tried to explain to people that background noise rejection is not really what separates dynamic from condenser mics. I’ve mixed in live scenarios in which a condenser mic was actually the better choice even though it DID pick up more stage bleed, because it had a much more neutral off axis sound than any dynamic option. But sadly, a lot of people rely on hearsay and don’t think about frequency dependent polar patterns that much.
We're here to break through the noise!
Thank goodness somebody is telling the truth about condenser microphones and background noise. I’m so sick of hearing in video after video how dynamics are better at rejecting background noise.
The range of microphones LEWITT is really fabulous I like your microphones thank you for doing this .
Thanks for your great feedback!
It was clear to me that 2 and 1 rejected the background noise better - and by no coincidence both were the SM7B. I'm not surprised.
Thanks for watching!
This is a cool video and I actually had to test this out myself. My final conclusions after testing tons of dynamic mics and condenser mics is that condensers and dyanmics can be at the same volume - but not the same detail. So condensers pick up more detail. More of the annoying sounds. ie put your LCT 440 pure and SM7B in a bathroom, turn on the water, what picks up the water? The 440 pure. Turn on a vaccuum. What picks up more of that. The LCT 440 Pure. Condensers pick up more of the annoying sounds.
Thanks for sharing your thoughts! Yes, condenser pick up more high end detail which can make background noise more noticeable. So there are trade offs to consider. Most modern vocal production requires a higher level of detail/presence so even if you record with a dark dynamic you will be boosting the high end in the mix and boosting the noise up with it.
@@LEWITT-audio Oh wow! Thank you for responding! :D I love your mics, your technology and your vids. :P
No problem! Always happy to answer audio questions
It’s really refreshing hearing a company actually address this myth properly. Here’s another thing to consider.. a lot of noise also comes from the preamp and gain, especially with inexpensive interfaces, so using a gain-hungry mic like an SM7b may introduce MORE noise than an condenser. I did a video on this and people still argue it’s about “how you use them”, but I get right up on condenser mics all the time and they handle it just fine.
Not only gain but self noise as well. The LCT-440 has extremely low self noise.
For house bands and bands playing small venues with the monitors nearby, you absolutely want a cardioid mic. Cardioid mics are BEST for cutting down on feedback and crowd noise bleeding into the mic. Super-cardioid mics cause more feedback.
Thanks for sharing your experience! Super cardioid can work wonders to reduce bleed into the vocal mic (with the right monitoring setup) but Cardioid is definitely a great option for most senarios
Yes, agreed, Super cardioid can work wonders to reduce bleed into the vocal mic. But I am talking about not so much stage bleed, as much as feedback. If monitors are nearby, cardioid is the way to go. If you are recording the session, yes cardioid will add a tad more stage bleed to the mic mix. @@LEWITT-audio
So interesting! As many have said, the main difference seems to just be frequency response instead of actual noise rejection. Definitely debunks the idea that your need a dynamic mic for recording vocals in an untreated room
A fair conclusion based on the results!
I once was very determined to investigate this belief. And I have even a-mailed Lewitt support and exchanged a few very meaningful e-mails. The concluiosn was that it is not a rule, but a correlation. Big diaphragm condensers have wider directionality in the lower frequencies. But small diaphragm are as good as dynamics. Another thing is the frequency response with less of high frequencies which may lead to a bit lower perception of reverb and space. There is also the case impact which is also usually different between dynamics and large diaphragm condensers. Plus, of course the distance from the sound source, which tends to be higher in a typical use of dynamic microphone due to the casing shape. So the main conclusion was that small diaphragm condensers are basically as good as dynamics at rejecting room reverb or noise.
Thx for sharing this.
Yes indeed! We're glad to finally bring this information to light 😃
I wound up buying an LCT440 Pure for three reasons: 1. Excellent detailed sound, 2. Reputation for good room rejection for a condenser, 3. incredibly low self-noise. I wanted one cardioid large diaphragm condenser that would do it all (vocals, voiceover, instruments) for
🙌 so glad to hear it
Thank you for making a fair comparison despite being a brand that sells products that competes against the "benchmark". In my opinion, for the specific use case, the Shure SM7B is better (is it a better value thought? IMHO, not really) but that is due to its inheritant low sensitivity. If you somehow have a treated room, condenser mics would be generally better as they allow for more details to come through as well as more distance between the signal and the capsule.
Guys, whenever you're trying to buy a mic KNOW THE ROOM you will use and WHAT you will use it for. To me, it was cheaper to sell my Rode NT1 and buy a shure than to reflection-proof my new room with acoustic foams/pannels.
If you want to sing and have as much nuance as possible, a treated room + condenser will be better than a treated room+ dynamic mic (as a general rule).
I switched from a Rode NT1 (the black one) to a Shure SM7B because I moved to a different house and in my new home "studio" I didn't have any bookshelves or furniture to block the reflections and the cost for the switch was only 50 Canadian Rubles in the used market.
Remember folks, you don't need to overspend, learning proper recording technique + post production will generally yield better results than throwing money at studio gear without learning how to use them.
The most important thing for us is that our fans can make informed decisions when it comes to choosing the right microphones, so we try to give them the full picture in our videos. The end goal should always be simply good sound. 😉
Thanks for sharing your wise words in your comment, we're sure that a lot of people looking for a setup upgrade are going to appreciate it!
Damn I didn't even have to guess Mic1/2/3 obvious which ones are which. The problem is not necessarily what you hear when you are like just pluggin these into the amp but once you start layering everything with processing. It's much easier to make condenser flat and you'll easily hear all the stuff of the room and like a crane near your house or something with dynamics they are much less sensitive.
I like this, but it's only one part of the equation. I wish you did a comparison for how voice sounds in a big untreated room with the different mics. Will it sound echo-ey, or wouldn't it matter as long as your close to the mic?
We did use a large untreated office space that has a ton of hard surfaces. Being close to the mic creates a lot of isolation from background ambience (at the expense of clarity due to proximity effect).
A friend of my told me he was not a fan of SM7B because of the gain, which is fairly low compared to other mics out there. According to him, you need to be really up close with your mouth to make it sound good. He works in a radio station and is also a sound engineer. That was a surprise for me, as this very mic is said to be "the one" when it comes to radio dj's, podcasters and so on.
Thanks for the comment! Certainly everyone has their own microphone preferences for every situation. 😀
So many people choose the SM7B for that radio/broadcaster voice. Worst thing is a good microphone used in a poorly treated environment can sound as bad as a budget microphone.
Thanks so much. This video helped a lot in making a decision, and potentially saving a lot of my money too.
You're welcome! So glad it was useful.
Does Maria know how to party OR WHAT??
Whoever said one day "Hey Maria, why don't you make a video?" , made a genius move! ❤
Is that Click's intro music playing? Including the 'umm?' 😂
I don't think one is better.
Based on what I heard though, it sounds like the keys were over all 'lower' in sound on the sm7b to me so I think I could edit then out more easily. That might be the slight difference in position or something though. Or just my ears expecting something
Shure SM7b was my choice on both tests. Only on the typing only part- I did not have a preference on the voice+ typing. The MTP550dm had way too much low end, test 2, typing only. Thanks for level matching. I think you are correct when compensation for dynamic mic's lower output levels are to bring it closer to the source.
I assumed 2 was the SM7B because it was louder in my headphones, lol.
Got the Lewitt Dynamic and Condenser backwards. I also had psychologically attached 1 to the condenser, 2 to the SM7B and 3 to the handheld due to the order they were introduced in the video.
As others pointed out, I agree that it seems to be more a matter of frequencies in that background noise. So in this case I would go with the LCT 440 PURE (which I love 🥰) and apply a low pass filter.
Hi ma'am, I am beginner. I want to record my written poetry professionally. In which my line will go in high tone and will also come in low tone. Tell me such mic and audio interface. So that I can record and mix later. But my room is not sound proof. My total budget is $300. A shopkeeper told me that you cannot do recording with dynamic mic. Please tell me what should I do. Which mic and audio interface should I buy? After buying which I do not regret.
With your given budget, you should look at the LCT 240 PRO. Great vocal/voiceover mic. For interfaces, our CONNECT 6 interface is a bit too expensive for your current budget. But you could look at a number of great affordable options with less features... Elgato Wave XLR and Focusrite Scarlett Solo come to mind
@@LEWITT-audio Thanks, can I use this mic without Sound proof Room
First of all thank you very much for the video! I am surprised by how bad the noise rejection is on that handheld dynamic mic, and by how good it is on that Dynamic mic. I wonder if that Dynamic mic has a higher noise rejection than typical condenser mics such as the Blue Yeti. I wonder how a Blue Yeti condenser mic would fare against, say, a Shure SM57 dynamic mic, which is typically used in very noisy environments. :D
Thanks for your feedback, we'll keep it in mind for the next one!😉
All cardiod mics, aside from ones with anomalous quirks in their polar pattern are close to identical for the range of sound frequencies that present themselves in an end users home.
@@skorpers Interesting
Thanks for the video, always entertaining. Being a drummer I’m always struggling with reducing hi hat bleed from the snare mic. In this situation a dynamic mic is the only choice for reducing unwanted sound, true?
Yes, dynamics are a popular choice for that. But it's more a function of the polar pattern and proximity to the source than the transducer itself.
Nice test. Any plans on wireless Lewitt systems? Would love to mix some smooth sounding vocal wireless Lewitt mics on a PA.
What system are you using now? 😀
@@LEWITT-audio the standard SM58, but I feel some Lewitt magic would make them shine 😁
Can anyone say what’s the last name of Maria or how can we find her in social media networks?
About to pick up the LCT 440, sounds great!!
Nice, have fun recording with it!
I've been using the 240 pro for many years. Do any of the higher end mics come in white? Please? 😎
Nope. Right now LCT 240 PRO is the only mic we have that comes in white
#3 sounds best for signal to noise ratio !
Ein herzliches Servus nach Wien!
Ich bin längst ein Fan Eurer Mikros und besitze schon einige für mein Schlagzeug und fürs Homestudio. Ich mag diesen modernen, crispen und detaillierten Sound! Um so niederschmetternder war es für mich, ein Mikrofon von dem großen Konkurrenten aus Amerika kaufen zu müssen, DENN...
IHR HABT KEIN DYNAMISCHES HEADSET MIKRO FÜR SINGENDE DRUMMER...
...in Eurem Produktangebot !??
Was könnt Ihr zu Eurer Verteidigung sagen?
Ein "es wird bald eins geben" ist eigentlich die einzige, mögliche Antwort...
Macht weiter so, Preis/Leistung/Design ist einfach top!
Viele Grüße aus Hessen
PS: Nervt Euch das nicht auch, wenn man Headset Mic und InEars quasi um seine Ohren "wickeln" muss und sich die Kabel und Gestänge im Weg sind, gerade wenn man dann noch kleine Ohren hat oder eine Brille trägt, oder mal kurz noch Bier holen wollte...?
Hier ist, glaube ich, viel Platz für kreatives Design...
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A hearty hello to Vienna!
I have been a fan of your mics for a long time and already own some for my drums and home studio. I like this modern, crisp and detailed sound! So it was all the more devastating for me to have to buy a microphone from the big competitor from America, because...
YOU DON'T HAVE A DYNAMIC HEADSET MIC FOR SINGING DRUMMERS....
in your product range !??
What can you say in your defence?
A "there will be one soon" is really the only possible answer....
Keep up the good work, price/performance/design is simply top!
Many greetings from Hessen/Germany
PS: Doesn't it also annoy you when you have to "wrap" the headset mic and InEars around your ears and the cables and rods get in the way, especially if you have small ears or wear glasses, or just go to get a beer...?
I think there is a lot of room for creative design here.
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Hi Marco, freut uns erstmal zu hören, dass dir unsere Mikros zusagen! Sobald wir eines haben, stehst du jedenfalls ganz oben auf unserer Beta-Tester Liste. LG aus Wien
Oh, I didn't hear any real difference. Thanks for the test!
You're welcome! We didn't hear a huge difference either.
Really suprising that you can't really hear a difference in loudness of the background noise. I always thought that dynamics would have a lot less.
We're here to answer the hard questions! 😁
Would I be the first to mention the differences in polar patterns of each mic, specifically the frequency responses behind them and the optimum rejection angles at various frequencies?
This partly accounts for the differences we hear. Another related part are the reflections off of the display screens and the angles that they arrive at the mics.
Yes you're right, although in this test we tried to eliminate those variables in order to answer the basic question of whether the transducer type matters as much as we assume.
second test was not fair - dynamic mic was mounted directly on the stand, you could clearly hear low frequency bumps from the table.
Hi there,
thanks for your comment.
Although the desk stand of the dynamic microphone picks up a lot of structure born noise, the desk mounts for the other two mics are very similar when you measure them. But it is true that this was not very visible in the video.
Thanks for your feedback!
Cheers from Vienna! 😊
@LEWITT when are you guys going to make an end address microphone for broadcast/podcast solely focused on spoken words?
Can't say anything official but "Stay tuned" ;)
@@LEWITT-audio Been staying tune my friends!
@@LEWITT-audio Still waiting for a new release :(
Wait the SM7B is not the industry standard for streaming, its the industry standard for radio!
The 440's noise rejection is great.
Honestly thought it was mic 2 in the 2nd test, with the AC heard in full force.
Edit: It could be the rumble of the keys being tapped, but eh, still, the 440 rejected it nicely.
Thanks for your comment, and the nice words!😊
Hello,
I really prefers the 440 Pure.
Can you please tells us what audio interface do you use ?
Thank you so much for giving this important information.
Bro, the SM7B ate both others…
Hi lewitt I had a bedroom setup pls suggest a Good microphone for home studio and for future use also I love th design of lewitt pls ans me
LCT 440 PURE is a great place to start for any home studio!
@@LEWITT-audio can I also go for 441 ?
@@Noshimusic Of course! Why not with the addition of 8 available polar patterns--more flexibility.
@@LEWITT-audio thank you so much ❤️
You should rerecord this video with dogs playing in the background not some measly AC unit.
Our dog budget was cut!
For this application and rejection of keyboard click clack I’d go for an SM7B in both examples sorry guys. But. The 440 sounded wayyy better on the voice with the extra detail, particularly in high frequencies. The handheld mic very obviously picked up the AC/computer noises and had lots of low rumble.
It's fine, we still love you! 😉 But all jokes aside, we just want you guys to be able to form your own opinions and make informed decisions, so we're absolutely fine with you having your own preferences!
I still love you too! You guys are making great mics at very affordable prices and that’s awesome. Big fan here :)
from my inaccurate ears, it sounds like they all have the same noise rejection, but the detail of a condenser makes it more prominent. so rejection isn't the problem, it's how the hardware deals with the sounds that aren't rejected. ;-;
my surroundings are very noisy and I am a beginner who wants to do voiceover. So i need both better voice range and noise cancellation. I heard for dynamic microphones you have to be loud but during voiceover, there are certain text for which audio has to be low. Can you suggest me a microphone which balances out both and is affordable. That would be great help. Thanks!
Hi there, thanks for your comment.
In general, the LCT440 PURE is a great budget friendly choice for voice-over recordings. But you will have to work in quiet places. That doesn't mean that you need an isolation booth, but maybe you can improve your environment with some easy fixes. Can you specify, what you mean by noisy surroundings?
Cheers from Vienna!😊
How do you prevent the mic from picking up keyboard clicks or if your using a xbox controler as my mic picks up both of those
Mic placement or distance is the best way to isolate. Cardoid mics have great rear rejection so you can angle them upward to isolate your voice from keyboard sounds. Also, the closer you are to the microphone the more isolated your voice will be from background noise. Experiment to see what sounds best
@@LEWITT-audio thank you
SHURE SM7B PICKS UP WAY MORE BACKGROUND THAN A SM58 -EITHER WAY IM WRONG
How about you do a test where you live by the roadside. Most of the people have living conditions where they can hear cars, motorcycles outside, and the fan noise. The untreated room in the video is still way far from the normal.
Hi there, thanks for the video recommendation. We'll consider it for future Videos!
I love this girl
We do too.
When new drum pack will come?
It would be interesting how those microphones behave in a live setting with drums, amplifiers and wedge monitors. I am singing in very loud rock band and have experimented a lot to find a microphone, that is great sounding as well as having as much rejection possible. Condenser microphones (even handheld condensers) are so nasty in this regard - I mean I love their sound, but it is impossible to use them without screwing the whole FOH mix with all their bleed (when used as vocal mic).
In general, also a condenser microphone can have good rejection in a live setting. As others said here, it's not only a matter of sensitivity but also how the capsule rejects different frequencies. This can be tuned, and it varies from model to model across different manufacturers.
The dynamic MTP 550 DM featured in the video works for many live musicians. Maybe you want to give it a try.
An old fashioned trick for loud bands was to parallel two microphones out of phase next to each other and sing into one while the other only picks up the ambient sounds. The out of phase cancels out the background. That’s sort of how cardioid directional mics work, by mechanically subtracting the sounds from the rear.
I just picked up the LCT440 and I only use 20dB of gain and it is not perfect in my untreated space, compared to SM7B a fist away from my mouth, also the condenser is still extremely sensitive to anything in front and behind the mic even on such a low gain on my GOXLR
What's your usual gain setting on your SM7B?
@@LEWITT-audio 50dB but it is quiet so I use 55dB
@@luk7n The 30 dB difference sounds accurate taking into the account the extremely low sensitivity of the SM7B. Try to compare the mics at the same distance and let us know if things have gotten better. Also consider that the capsule of the SM7 sits a few centimeters behind the foam ;)
@@LEWITT-audio I already did it, and I know about the capsule, my problem is that you claim the 440 pure is better than the SM7b, but that is not true, love the sound of the Lewitt but its extremely sensitive to any background noise, even on noise gate set to -40dB it picks up sound of my keyboard and stuff. I already returned the Lewitt
Sorry to hear you returned it 😔. but we're happy you found a solution that works in your environment. We're not claiming any mic is better in this video, only to provide education and a fun experiment! We hope that you end up using our mics again down the line. Cheers!
No justification for condenser microphones for voice.
there are only two things better than my LCT040 match microphones and that is 2 marias! the handheld had the slight edge over the pure the shure had mor rumble in the low end i think some of these shure fan bois need to get their ears checked
Hahaha, that's a good one! We are glad that you enjoyed watching and you found the comparison helpful 😊
I have a feeling that the implications of uttering "let's get ready to rumble" on distributed media are not fully understood by your legal and production teams....
What legal implications? 🤔
@@riangarianga it's probably the most sued-over trademarked phrase in US history. I don't think they're going too come after this little video, of course. It is registered in multiple countries at this point, and the owners made more money suing over it than actually saying it themselves at this point. It may not be "a thing" in the country this video was made in, nor may it be actionable even if it were, as the video is in a different sphere: music technology. However, saying it is shyed away from in the media industry by-in-large.
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They literally sound all the same.
You are so beautiful Maria I am in love with you🌹
Stupid. it is not a all the question of the technology of the microphone (condenser, Electret or dynamic), but their directivities (omni, cardioid, hypercardioid) , and the localisation and kind of the ambiant noise in the space. And, more than that, the linearity of the response curve outside from the axe od the mic.
A distorted background noise, even at a lower level can be more annoying than a natural one.
It is important in studio, where parasitic capture of other instruments at proximity interfere with their own tracks you'd like to keep alone.
In our conclusion, we found that neither condenser nor dynamic is inherently "better" at noise rejection. Watch the video and let us know what you think!
REAL BAD TEST ,sorry
we forgive you