Meanwhile in Korea they decided to make an F-16 derivative that is smaller and much cheaper for use as trainers and entry level fighters for lower budget air forces, the T-50 / TA-50 / F-50 series. Still high quality but with more limited features than F-16 or F-2. Cheap enough to replace other trainers and have as combat capable backup for primary fighters.
F50 is a Lockheed Martin project. F50 is basically a modified Russian YAK130. It has many limitations. F50 isn't light. It still falls under the medium combat aircraft. USA never built any light combat aircraft after WWII. Only Russia and India did. Russia built MIG21 and India built Tejas. You don't need light combat aircraft in today's warfare. You need bigger range and heavier payload delivery which light combat aircrafts can't provide.
You also have to factor in their different roles, as well. The F-16 is a multi-role all weather, all environment fighter. It’s designed with maneuverability and survivability in mind. The F-2 is an air to air fighter, primarily. The extended range is to maximize defensive area against China.
The Mitsubishi F-2 is a multirole fighter derived from the General Dynamics F-16 Fighting Falcon, and manufactured by Mitsubishi Heavy Industries and ...
@@BilobateDrip The Mitsubishi F-2 is a multirole fighter derived from the General Dynamics F-16 Fighting Falcon, and manufactured by Mitsubishi Heavy Industries and Lockheed Martin.
Explanation: While the F-2 is primarily designed and produced by Mitsubishi Heavy Industries in Japan, Lockheed Martin plays a significant role as a subcontractor, contributing to the development and production of key components for the aircraft.
Modern jets are showing that carry capacity and avionics is where it's at. Carry huge amounts of weapons .let them glide to their targets dozens of miles away. Harder to shoot down a missile or bomb than it is a plane. @@ianrichards909
I visited my brother at the Misawa air base and got to watch two of these take off at full afterburner all day every 30 minutes for a whole month. It is one of my favorite memories
I got to tour a Japanese Air Self Defense Force aircraft hangar back in 1982 when I was a second lewy. You could eat off the floors of their hangars they were so clean, and everything was in perfect order.
Ik this is a joke, but the chinese J-11 is pretty much a better version of the su-27, along with most their other russian knockoffs. China copies and make better russian jets, and japan copied and made a better american jet.
@@rebuskecebong the US obviously wont give them the license to copy the F35 so they made a copy of the F35 and made it worse. the j-11 is of course better because they only gave it better avionics systems, weaponry, etc and it was introduced later in time compared to original models
@@rebuskecebong I've worked with chinese engineers, mostly in laser systems and optics. They always ask questions to know how the end product operates, they make you think it's so they can solve component problems and improve quality, but truth is it's just to copy. They are not capable of critical thinking because of how the government is suppressing it, so it's harder for them to think of new original ways without a strong basis.
@ABCXYZG no. The unofficial name for the F16 is Viper. The fighter that is associated with Japan with phenomenal range in WWII is the A6M2 Zero. The name is an amalgamation of the two.
@Ishmam...28 in the latest video by Kings and Generals, they featured the Zero. The metal used on the A6M2 is a very light duralumium reversed engineered from German airships. Here with the F2, you are seeing the same approach by the Japanese engineers using composites. History repeats itself.
The F-2 is designed to serve as a torpedo bomber like the Type 97Kate, carrying four anti-ship missiles and performing naps of the Earth at extremely low altitudes, so the aircraft is painted in blue sea camouflage. The F-2 is also the first in the world to have wings made from carbon, and the wing area has been expanded to allow it to carry four Harpoon-class anti-ship missiles. According to the impressions of a US Air Force F-16C pilot who flew the F-2 during aircraft transfer training conducted by Japan and the US, the maximum radar detection distance is the same. The turning performance is also the same. The biggest difference is that the F-2 has better flight stability when flying at extremely low altitudes, but this may be a natural result as the F-2's main role was developed as anti-ship attacks.
Biggest difference between the two is the F-2's primary mission (which it's design was modified to achieve) is anti-shipping. The F-16 was superior in dogfighting while the F-2 was superior in long range anti-maritime strikes and SEAD. The F-16 has a superior thrust to weight ratio, roll rate, pitch rate, climb rate, and both instantaneous and sustained turn rates. The F-16 is made of the same composites and alloys as the F-2, and both aircraft engines max at 29.5Klbs of thrust. The F-16 is lighter, which is why it achieves at thrust to weight ratio of 1.1 where the F-2 achieves 0.9. The F-2s also have not received nearly the amount of upgrades as the F-16s have since the 1990s. The USAF newest F-16V upgrade features the same software and integration systems as the new F-35 Block 4 and F-22 upgrades. The F-2 was superior a few decades ago, but this now.
Yes bigger isnt always better, the F 2 in this instance going bigger makes the plane less nible in close quarter dog fights but perfect for air to ground support. "If it aint broke dont fix it" The F16 is better in so may aspects but modificarions in the electronics is where the F2 shines. Just image a F16 with F22 like electricals!
@@chrissmith6111 To be fair, with Japan while they do spend a really large amount of GDP on defence in relation to most countries, they still don't have a sizeable enough air force like the US to have multiple types of jets and have as much specialisation where some are purely dogfighting and some are strike, a multipurpose jet that sacrifices a little dogfighting for extra capability actually works out for their particular use case.
@@chrissmith6111 BVR combat is the current domain of air combat. Maneuverability doesn't matter as much as it used to back in the 70's. It's true that the F2 is much better than the F16 in most aspects. However, the US upgrading the F16 to that extent is stupid as the US has the versatility through different weapon systems as they're not limited by a constrained expenditure like the JSDAF.
@@chrissmith6111the F-16V configuration which all US F-16s are being converted to has comparable or better avionics than the F-22 but I think the F-22 is being upgraded as well.
Real ones know this was one of the most fun jets to fly in Ace Combat 4. Was the plane that made me appreciate the plane weight and physics in AC4 over AC5 and Zero. Particularly ground assault missions
Mitsubishi- We need an F16 with a "Larger Combat Radius" F16 - Okay. How large do you want it to be? Mitsubishi- May be something that gets us to Pearl Harbour?
Went from two nations wanting to destroy each other in WW2 to now becoming extremely close allies sharing a ton of military tech. Japan looks like an awesome place to visit
It’s mad how opposites attract 😂😂 I do have a lot of respect for Japan it’s somewhere id love to visit one day, stunning scenery and I’ve heard there very welcoming and respectful of there visitors and they like to keep things clean and tidy. I have a lot of time for there way of doing things
I’ve been there before and it’s a must visit country. Absolutely incredible. It’s like a different world. The people are nice and the food is great and there is so much to see.
You're 100% spot on. Was blessed with having worked and lived in Japan for 9+ years and there's no words that fully express how much I love and miss it; the people, culture, society, mentality, & country. But to give it a try, I bleed red/white/blue but my heart is & always will be in Japan - it's my favorite place on earth.
@@cptnsparky - If your nation has a tight military budget, then of course cost matters. Not every nation can afford a fleet of the latest bleeding edge jets. Some make do with last generation jets.
At the time Japan had limitations on how big their armed forces could be. So they decided to take a quality over quantity approach hence the price and multirole nature. The F-2 was also built to stay in service a lot longer then most fighters. They are still in active service while Japan's recent F-35 purchase was to replace their ageing F-4 Phantom fleet.
@cptnsparky the F-2 costs nearly as much as the F-15. The original intention for the F-16 was to be a cheaper fighter, of course I'm not saying it's bad at all, the Japanese make fucking amazing weapons systems.
Japanese planes have no self sealing fuel tanks, poor amour with no protectionism for the pilot and easily turn into a ball of flames even by a bullet. Just look at the Japanese zero.
@crosslink1493 the issue is when u have upgraded planes like the F2, the world would have already moved on to even better planes which make the upgrade pointless. Might as well just buy planes from established sellers Like US or Russia.
@@HuiYingHong-b8qthey already have Licensed for the F35 and they are also developing Tempest with Britain and Italy And also Russia is being left behind due to Financial reason
“Why not just buy F-16?” Operational requirements from JASDF included at loading cap. of four ASM w/ 450nm combat radius (primarily against the Soviet) - any fighter capable of at the time. Alongside with the delicate situation of US/JP economic tensions and political relations, Japan had ultimately gave up on domestic and ended up joint development based on F-16.
They were coerced into it and had to give up all the new developments they made as "technology sharing" for free while the received licenses and no information regarding F16s parts/specifications they received.
I mean the F-16 was due for an upgrade, especially since we never deployed the F-16XL. I think the Japanese did a wonderful Job and I’m glad we were able to collaborate with them to make the Mitsubishi X-2, which is now the F-2 since the Obey amendment forbids the sale of F-22s that Japan was interested in purchasing. Glad to see our ally working in collaboration to ensure both the safe protection of the Japanese homeland and to aid in freedom of navigation exercises in the South China Sea.
@@testplmnb South China Sea just means the sea South of China, not that the entire area is Chinese by right. Same as the Irish Sea is shared between the UK and Ireland, the Indian Ocean is massive, and the Sea of Japan is in between Russia, China, North Korea, South Korea, and Japan. China acts like it can have different rules for its own behaviour, separate from established rules for international sea transit and territorial waters, and wants to block free travel of other nations vessels, even to their own islands.
I’m not surprised #🥱 how resourceful the Japanese 🇯🇵 are, for instance, much earlier the Japanese 🇯🇵 also did an Amazing version of the M-51 Chevrolet 🏆
The Mitsubishi F-2 was based on the proposed F-16 Agile Falcon which featured improvements such as a 25% larger wing and upgraded engines. General Dynamics had offered the Agile Falcon as a low-cost alternative for the Advanced Tactical Fighter (ATF). Some of the Agile Falcon's capabilities were incorporated into later versions of the F-16.
Japanese planes have no self sealing fuel tanks, poor amour with no protectionism for the pilot and easily turn into a ball of flames even by a bullet. Just look at the Japanese zero.
That's very cool. Nothing wrong with the realization that you don't need to re-invent the wheel. I'm sure it's not up to the F-35, but as allies they don't need to be, and as Japanese, I am sure the pursuit of perfection has allowed them to create a more than capable aircraft from that airframe.
The F-2 was based upon the F-16 Agile Falcon, which was a low cost version of the f-16 that was not successful. The entire purpose of Japan creating the F-2 rather than buying F-16s is because they needed a low cost multi role fighter. Lockheed Martin worked on the design of this plane in conjunction with Japanese engineers
Japanese planes have no self sealing fuel tanks, poor amour with no protectionism for the pilot and easily turn into a ball of flames even by a bullet. Just look at the Japanese zero.
China takes the software engineer approach to everything and forgets the fact that software engineers only get to pull that shit cuz they can spend the rest of the product's lifecycle squashing out the bugs.
Japanese planes have no self sealing fuel tanks, poor amour with no protectionism for the pilot and easily turn into a ball of flames even by a bullet. Just look at the Japanese zero.
@@HuiYingHong-b8q Lol You're Chinese and still stuck in 1942. Also that wasn't even true in the mid to late war. Planes like the strong, fast, and agile Ki-84 were well armored.
@@HuiYingHong-b8qIn comparison, China despite being the world's toilet for cheap manufacturing cannot build its own reliable jet engines...still relying on Russia who is not even a formal ally. 😂
They work long hours but the idea of getting something done so you can get home early is not encouraged. I lived in Japan for a couple of years. I felt sorry for those poor people who did little but spend time at work. They also have very few holidays. Great place to visit but I wouldn't want to live there.
that is standard japanese procedure, all their MBTs are upgraded "japanized" german Leopard Tanks. Find an excellent platform and adjust it with your own superior technic. Saves billions in R&D and while using components the maintenance doesn´t rely on other nations
@@greyhansenndelara9082 type 90 is quite similar to 2A4, but with a autoloader and a hydropneumatic suspension. Also it uses the RH L44 gun, but in the Type 90s case it wasn't licensed Leopard, but they definetly used Leopard as an inspiration for it.
@@Llamajake777 that´s what i am saying. Type 74, was designed on base of the Leopard 1 and American M60, Type 87 on base of the German Gepard, Type 90 on base of German Leopard 2. Type 73 is based on the American M113 and the Toyota BXD 10 is baes on the American HMMV. Find a good existing platform and adjust it to your needs.
So basically one day, the top in the class forgot to do assignment and decided to copy the ones from his friend. But then he realized he can do it better.
Japanese planes have no self sealing fuel tanks, poor amour with no protectionism for the pilot and easily turn into a ball of flames even by a bullet. Just look at the Japanese zero.
Pretty much, while recently Japan has started putting F-35s on their helicopter carriers that's relatively new, and for decades they didn't have an aircraft carrier. Being an island nation who's domestic food supply and exports are heavily involved with seafood, and having so many extra islands to manage, having a good maritime patrol is vital, it makes perfect sense they'd want a capable strike fighter with good range.
@@G1NZOU Perhaps they should have gone with the F-15E instead, which I believe has more range and faster. Plus it enables better commonality with the F-15J that the JASDF is flying.
I agree.. I feel like they have paid and showed enough that they are not like their previous generation that fought us during world war 2.. they are a great ally to America and the world.. also that would put China on a leash on doing whatever the hell they want in the far east coast area..
The F-2 wound up being heavier than expected and the composite wing developed cracks. Ultimately it led to an aircraft with a higher wing loading and lower thrust to weight ratio than the F-16.
This was remedied back in 1999. However the recently cracked wing is speculated to be due to seismic activity. Although that aside, Lockheed Martin and wing issues go hand in hand so it's not all that surprising.
I'm sure there must be arguments for the smaller control pannels and smaller wings, too (reduced drag instantly comes to mind). These are so simple changes, I can't immagine they didn't come to mind when the F-16 was designed and if they did, I can't immagine them just ignoring them for no reason what so ever.
F-2 was put on a lot of restrictions by the Americans to made what it is today, not to mention some of the tech invented by the Japanese in making the F2 was “reciprocated” to the Americans such as AESA and full carbon wing manufacturing process.
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F-16: What are you?
F-2: Good question.
Jhonny q reference?
I'm blue, da ba dee da ba di
@@benwinter2420 got more likes than your sorry ass comment 🤡🤡
F-2: my daddy's name was Zero
F-2: I'm you but, stronger.
Also, the "2" in F2 is different than the "16" in F16.
I'm glad I could help
Thanks
I mean every 60 seconds in Africa a minute passes so…
Source?
2*8=16. You're welcome
@@nczioox1116 Source: "Trust me bro"
Japan: lemme copy your homework.... Wait you got some stuff wrong. Don't worry imma make it better.
That has been the Japanese way for a while 😂 make it smaller and better. In this case make it bigger but better
@@tektekken176yep, Japan got the license and then pimped their ride.
Meanwhile the J fighters are clear cheats except they are Temu versions that look good on paper but can't come close to the real deal....
Meanwhile in Korea they decided to make an F-16 derivative that is smaller and much cheaper for use as trainers and entry level fighters for lower budget air forces, the T-50 / TA-50 / F-50 series. Still high quality but with more limited features than F-16 or F-2. Cheap enough to replace other trainers and have as combat capable backup for primary fighters.
F50 is a Lockheed Martin project. F50 is basically a modified Russian YAK130. It has many limitations. F50 isn't light. It still falls under the medium combat aircraft. USA never built any light combat aircraft after WWII. Only Russia and India did. Russia built MIG21 and India built Tejas. You don't need light combat aircraft in today's warfare. You need bigger range and heavier payload delivery which light combat aircrafts can't provide.
F16: "Who Are You ?"
F2: "You, With the Flaws Removed"
SLEP will see you now
Imagine they have the right to make their own military aircraft without US interference😂
@@bigsmoke8539 they do, buying us stuff is just cheaper than making stuff from scratch
Father (f16) - be better than me
Son (f2) - i am
You also have to factor in their different roles, as well.
The F-16 is a multi-role all weather, all environment fighter. It’s designed with maneuverability and survivability in mind.
The F-2 is an air to air fighter, primarily. The extended range is to maximize defensive area against China.
The Mitsubishi F-2 is a multirole fighter derived from the General Dynamics F-16 Fighting Falcon, and manufactured by Mitsubishi Heavy Industries and ...
空対空と言うよりは空対艦を意識してると思う
@F.A.A.F.O and you're trying to say what?
@@BilobateDrip I just copied and pasted what was on the internet about that f-2 plane.
@@BilobateDrip The Mitsubishi F-2 is a multirole fighter derived from the General Dynamics F-16 Fighting Falcon, and manufactured by Mitsubishi Heavy Industries and Lockheed Martin.
Explanation: While the F-2 is primarily designed and produced by Mitsubishi Heavy Industries in Japan, Lockheed Martin plays a significant role as a subcontractor, contributing to the development and production of key components for the aircraft.
F2- “I am better than you”
F16- “Brotha I *MADE YOU”*
So the F-16 should be proud that the copy beat it in every way?
@@drained1177- Nope, the F-16 is lighter and faster… has same American made engine…
@@ianrichards909 two aspects that are becoming more and more unnecessary with the changing combat doctrines and tactics
Modern jets are showing that carry capacity and avionics is where it's at. Carry huge amounts of weapons .let them glide to their targets dozens of miles away. Harder to shoot down a missile or bomb than it is a plane. @@ianrichards909
@@ianrichards909 It’s not better or worse than the F-16 it just trades off certain characteristics for other qualities.
Toyota engine instead of a Buick 😂
So what? It has been proven so reliable in middle east
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Driving by your Pratt and Whitney broken down on the side of the road with my Toyota. *Waves.
@@keatomicyou forgot to mention the 50 cal mounted to the bed of your truck
Block 40s use a GE engine. You're all wrong.
I was going to make a funny comment about the F-2 being a different color but he beat me out of the blue
hehehe i see what you did there
I think the biggest difference is that the F2 pilots are japanese.
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I visited my brother at the Misawa air base and got to watch two of these take off at full afterburner all day every 30 minutes for a whole month. It is one of my favorite memories
We need more of this type of cooperative innovation.
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and they probably transform into ROBOTs when shit gets real too!
That's only done in response to giant monsters
@@Matthew.SweeneyIT'S A GUNDAM
Shhhh🤫
@@Matthew.Sweeney "Get me the Godzilla Defense Force Command on the phone, and hurry!"
That'd be MACROSS!
The Japanese didn't "copy" the F-16. They contacted Lockheed to build it for them with a deal where Mitsubishi could manufacture them.
In order for Lockheed to do that Japan would've needed to get permission from the US Government to base the F-2 on the F-16
@@kop1522 ...which they did
Yall even watch the video? He flat out said it's a licensed copy with a fair amount of modifications
@@maikelspekter7772- A copy is a copy… whether licensed or not…
In other words. A licensed modified copy.
Japanese are prone to push everything to the verge of perfection . . . Love them . . .
I know. I agree. I love them for that and so many things
South Koreans are good at this as well
So different to their Chinese neighbours
Japanese are prone to push everything to the verge of perfection and see Pearl Harbor again. . . Americans Love them . . .
@@Eh-Mungu-Nguvu-Yetu-q8p nobody say south Korea are bad. But the subject of interest here is Japan. No need to shoehorning south Koreans.
I got to tour a Japanese Air Self Defense Force aircraft hangar back in 1982 when I was a second lewy. You could eat off the floors of their hangars they were so clean, and everything was in perfect order.
China: copies and makes a worse version
Japan: copies and makes a better version and informs you how to make it better
Ik this is a joke, but the chinese J-11 is pretty much a better version of the su-27, along with most their other russian knockoffs.
China copies and make better russian jets, and japan copied and made a better american jet.
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@@rebuskecebong the US obviously wont give them the license to copy the F35 so they made a copy of the F35 and made it worse. the j-11 is of course better because they only gave it better avionics systems, weaponry, etc and it was introduced later in time compared to original models
@@rebuskecebong I've worked with chinese engineers, mostly in laser systems and optics. They always ask questions to know how the end product operates, they make you think it's so they can solve component problems and improve quality, but truth is it's just to copy.
They are not capable of critical thinking because of how the government is suppressing it, so it's harder for them to think of new original ways without a strong basis.
Of course. They are allies
As an Ace Combat enjoyer, I am well familiar with the F-2
As a war thunder player, I'm obliged to leak documents about it so that Gaijin adds it to the game
touch grass
You mean Ace Combat Fan (geddit?) and yeah the F-2 is really cool.
@@Kinetic31 pls don't its turbo illegal 💀
Yeah new too but I didn’t know he f2 wasn’t American lol
The Viper Zero
A more badass name, I must say.
@jinngeechia9715 Well badass names tend to be unofficial just like F-16's "Viper" nickname
is this reference to anime??
@ABCXYZG no. The unofficial name for the F16 is Viper. The fighter that is associated with Japan with phenomenal range in WWII is the A6M2 Zero. The name is an amalgamation of the two.
@Ishmam...28 in the latest video by Kings and Generals, they featured the Zero. The metal used on the A6M2 is a very light duralumium reversed engineered from German airships. Here with the F2, you are seeing the same approach by the Japanese engineers using composites. History repeats itself.
*So this is the reason why Mitsubishi stopped making Lancer Evo, but please bring back the Evo!*
They made this before the Evo lmao
Now that I’m thinking of this, an Evo with the F-2’s livery would go hard
@@HustleMuscleGhiasStill their Evo get the most recognized worldwide. Noted my profile pic its Mits V6.
Trust me , you don't want to own any mitsubishi evolution !
Batteries too
Did they make sewing machine?
The F-2 is designed to serve as a torpedo bomber like the Type 97Kate, carrying four anti-ship missiles and performing naps of the Earth at extremely low altitudes, so the aircraft is painted in blue sea camouflage.
The F-2 is also the first in the world to have wings made from carbon, and the wing area has been expanded to allow it to carry four Harpoon-class anti-ship missiles.
According to the impressions of a US Air Force F-16C pilot who flew the F-2 during aircraft transfer training conducted by Japan and the US, the maximum radar detection distance is the same.
The turning performance is also the same.
The biggest difference is that the F-2 has better flight stability when flying at extremely low altitudes, but this may be a natural result as the F-2's main role was developed as anti-ship attacks.
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어느나라 분이신지 몰라도 우린 이런 사람을 "최소 배우신분" 이라고 합니다.
Be proud to be a pilot of that aircraft.. There's no question regarding quality & technology.. that's Made in Japan! 👍
Japan : may we introduce the F2 Zero
America : Wo wo wo wo wo wo you cant name your plane that !
If we add Viper and call it Viper Zero would it be cool? 😊
the usa was never very good at making aircraft
@@גוגל.קוםThat's one bold statement 🤣‼️
@@גוגל.קום
Wat??
@@גוגל.קום- So why are all Japanese fighter jets American made you idiot…
Biggest difference between the two is the F-2's primary mission (which it's design was modified to achieve) is anti-shipping. The F-16 was superior in dogfighting while the F-2 was superior in long range anti-maritime strikes and SEAD. The F-16 has a superior thrust to weight ratio, roll rate, pitch rate, climb rate, and both instantaneous and sustained turn rates. The F-16 is made of the same composites and alloys as the F-2, and both aircraft engines max at 29.5Klbs of thrust. The F-16 is lighter, which is why it achieves at thrust to weight ratio of 1.1 where the F-2 achieves 0.9. The F-2s also have not received nearly the amount of upgrades as the F-16s have since the 1990s. The USAF newest F-16V upgrade features the same software and integration systems as the new F-35 Block 4 and F-22 upgrades. The F-2 was superior a few decades ago, but this now.
Yes bigger isnt always better, the F 2 in this instance going bigger makes the plane less nible in close quarter dog fights but perfect for air to ground support. "If it aint broke dont fix it"
The F16 is better in so may aspects but modificarions in the electronics is where the F2 shines. Just image a F16 with F22 like electricals!
@@chrissmith6111 To be fair, with Japan while they do spend a really large amount of GDP on defence in relation to most countries, they still don't have a sizeable enough air force like the US to have multiple types of jets and have as much specialisation where some are purely dogfighting and some are strike, a multipurpose jet that sacrifices a little dogfighting for extra capability actually works out for their particular use case.
Makes sense, I feel it's a similar upgrade in capability and size as the F/A-18E and F/A-18F Super Hornet are to the regular F/A-18 Hornet.
@@chrissmith6111 BVR combat is the current domain of air combat. Maneuverability doesn't matter as much as it used to back in the 70's.
It's true that the F2 is much better than the F16 in most aspects. However, the US upgrading the F16 to that extent is stupid as the US has the versatility through different weapon systems as they're not limited by a constrained expenditure like the JSDAF.
@@chrissmith6111the F-16V configuration which all US F-16s are being converted to has comparable or better avionics than the F-22 but I think the F-22 is being upgraded as well.
Now thats some JDM mods
That’s like buying a 1990 camaro so you could put 2012 camaro parts into it.
Real ones know this was one of the most fun jets to fly in Ace Combat 4. Was the plane that made me appreciate the plane weight and physics in AC4 over AC5 and Zero. Particularly ground assault missions
Gaijin: 70$ premium F-2 pack, take it or leave it!
$100 would be more Gaijin like
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@@kaljamaistuuperjantaisincosts around 70 in my region 🤓
as Japan tech tree user still waiting for the F-2 to add in the game
@@monmonfiasco6391 Next patch. Come back to this comment. You will see.
Mitsubishi- We need an F16 with a "Larger Combat Radius"
F16 - Okay. How large do you want it to be?
Mitsubishi- May be something that gets us to Pearl Harbour?
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"When you get to hell, tell em viper sent you"
The F-2 was my solid go-to when I played AC5, ACZero, & AC6.
Went from two nations wanting to destroy each other in WW2 to now becoming extremely close allies sharing a ton of military tech. Japan looks like an awesome place to visit
It’s mad how opposites attract 😂😂 I do have a lot of respect for Japan it’s somewhere id love to visit one day, stunning scenery and I’ve heard there very welcoming and respectful of there visitors and they like to keep things clean and tidy. I have a lot of time for there way of doing things
They're not allies they have been conquered and controlled by the US
I’ve been there before and it’s a must visit country. Absolutely incredible. It’s like a different world. The people are nice and the food is great and there is so much to see.
You're 100% spot on. Was blessed with having worked and lived in Japan for 9+ years and there's no words that fully express how much I love and miss it; the people, culture, society, mentality, & country. But to give it a try, I bleed red/white/blue but my heart is & always will be in Japan - it's my favorite place on earth.
It also has the coolest name of any modern fighter: “Viper Zero”
Zero 🐝😅
Toyota doesn't happy when Zero mention in their work.
@@norizammastor9072 the F-2 is made by Mitsubishi tho.
@Papershields001 yup I dont watch it thoroughly. Noted pic profile of mine Mitsubishi V6 head. Thx
Beautiful color on that plane!
They painted their F-4EJ that color as well. Japan always has the cool paint jobs.
I hope they add anime girl on it 😂😂😂
You should see the color scheme of the prototype (there were two prototypes, but I’m referring to the one that’s white with red stripes)
The F2 is also twice the cost of an F16
Was wondering what the trade off was
To be fair, that isn’t much in the grand scheme of fourth generation fighters
@@cptnsparky - If your nation has a tight military budget, then of course cost matters. Not every nation can afford a fleet of the latest bleeding edge jets. Some make do with last generation jets.
At the time Japan had limitations on how big their armed forces could be. So they decided to take a quality over quantity approach hence the price and multirole nature. The F-2 was also built to stay in service a lot longer then most fighters. They are still in active service while Japan's recent F-35 purchase was to replace their ageing F-4 Phantom fleet.
@cptnsparky the F-2 costs nearly as much as the F-15. The original intention for the F-16 was to be a cheaper fighter, of course I'm not saying it's bad at all, the Japanese make fucking amazing weapons systems.
F2 also has a quantilum link to their own 10 story tall gundam drone for ground strike missions.
Difference is weapons are blurred out 😂
It is a licensed copy of the F-16. The Japanese upgraded it because the US does NOT sell advanced avionics/weapons suites in international sales.
Japanese planes have no self sealing fuel tanks, poor amour with no protectionism for the pilot and easily turn into a ball of flames even by a bullet. Just look at the Japanese zero.
@@HuiYingHong-b8q Bro, are you really using WW2 era aircraft as an argument here??? LOLOLOL
They do sell them, it just depends who the final customer is. Japan would/should be OK for a sale of advanced avionics.
@crosslink1493 the issue is when u have upgraded planes like the F2, the world would have already moved on to even better planes which make the upgrade pointless. Might as well just buy planes from established sellers Like US or Russia.
@@HuiYingHong-b8qthey already have Licensed for the F35 and they are also developing Tempest with Britain and Italy
And also Russia is being left behind due to Financial reason
“Why not just buy F-16?”
Operational requirements from JASDF included at loading cap. of four ASM w/ 450nm combat radius (primarily against the Soviet) - any fighter capable of at the time.
Alongside with the delicate situation of US/JP economic tensions and political relations, Japan had ultimately gave up on domestic and ended up joint development based on F-16.
They were coerced into it and had to give up all the new developments they made as "technology sharing" for free while the received licenses and no information regarding F16s parts/specifications they received.
@@PerciusLive that’s some rat activity.
@@rickfastly2671Nah, it's Business.
They could develop their own industry with the F-2, is was I bright move from Japan government at the time
@@PerciusLive They were also saved from becoming a North Korea like country had the Chinese and Soviets invaded them in the late 40s.
F-16: who are you?
F-2: I'm your cooler cousin
Israelian F-16I Sufa ahum "calm down brothers"
No @@olivierfaber8478
The biggest difference is that one is designed to take down Russians, while the other to take down Godzilla.
I thought the f2 was a different version of the f16
F-16: What are you?
F-2: I’m you, but *anime*
Tomb Raider Underworld reference ?!
The Toyota Camry of the sky
I mean the F-16 was due for an upgrade, especially since we never deployed the F-16XL. I think the Japanese did a wonderful Job and I’m glad we were able to collaborate with them to make the Mitsubishi X-2, which is now the F-2 since the Obey amendment forbids the sale of F-22s that Japan was interested in purchasing. Glad to see our ally working in collaboration to ensure both the safe protection of the Japanese homeland and to aid in freedom of navigation exercises in the South China Sea.
Exactly
South china sea is Chinese not japanese
@@testplmnb its a fuckking Sea and should belong to no humans at all
@@testplmnb Only because someone drew lines on maps and declared: All this belongs to China now
@@testplmnb South China Sea just means the sea South of China, not that the entire area is Chinese by right.
Same as the Irish Sea is shared between the UK and Ireland, the Indian Ocean is massive, and the Sea of Japan is in between Russia, China, North Korea, South Korea, and Japan.
China acts like it can have different rules for its own behaviour, separate from established rules for international sea transit and territorial waters, and wants to block free travel of other nations vessels, even to their own islands.
I’m not surprised #🥱 how resourceful the Japanese 🇯🇵 are, for instance, much earlier the Japanese 🇯🇵 also did an Amazing version of the M-51 Chevrolet 🏆
The Mitsubishi F-2 was based on the proposed F-16 Agile Falcon which featured improvements such as a 25% larger wing and upgraded engines. General Dynamics had offered the Agile Falcon as a low-cost alternative for the Advanced Tactical Fighter (ATF). Some of the Agile Falcon's capabilities were incorporated into later versions of the F-16.
Can you make some videos about the Japanese military pleaaaase???
🙏
@@GamdalffJapan don't have a military
Well … we haven’t had one since 1945 or whatever. We have a self defense force ;)
You mean the Japanese military that got wiped out by the Americans in WW2 😂😂😂
@@analoguegeek it's fiiiiiine, it appears that you are aiming on rebuilding it tho :)
The F2 is a beautiful fighter
It has to be… it’s just a copy of the F-16…
@@ianrichards909I mean, you got a problem?? 🤦🏻
@@leosolis8050 Yep, got a problem with lazy cheap copycats that copy everything…
@@ianrichards909 they're japanese not Chinese you plane autist
Why are looks the relevant mission criteria
🤣 the color joke take me down
"It's a completely different aircraft"
"Technically speaking the F2 is a licensed copy"
From the front it looks like the jet had a day of his life
85% different, built in collaboration with Lockheed Martin. Name says it all: Viper Zero
Japanese planes have no self sealing fuel tanks, poor amour with no protectionism for the pilot and easily turn into a ball of flames even by a bullet. Just look at the Japanese zero.
@@HuiYingHong-b8q Bro's living in the 40's
@@HuiYingHong-b8qarmor on fighter aircraft is basically gone period, the F-16 doesn’t have it either.
@@Justanotherconsumer don't feed the Chinese troll.
Save your breath.
@@Justanotherconsumer Yeah if you're close enough to be taking lead with a torpedo bomber or mid range ATA/ATG loadout you've seriously messed up.
I’ve been wondering what the difference was. This was great.
*f-16 shows up*
: “this is not f 16”
The F-2 has also a “Kamikaze “ feature activated by a special button
That's very cool. Nothing wrong with the realization that you don't need to re-invent the wheel. I'm sure it's not up to the F-35, but as allies they don't need to be, and as Japanese, I am sure the pursuit of perfection has allowed them to create a more than capable aircraft from that airframe.
The F-2 was based upon the F-16 Agile Falcon, which was a low cost version of the f-16 that was not successful. The entire purpose of Japan creating the F-2 rather than buying F-16s is because they needed a low cost multi role fighter. Lockheed Martin worked on the design of this plane in conjunction with Japanese engineers
Japanese planes have no self sealing fuel tanks, poor amour with no protectionism for the pilot and easily turn into a ball of flames even by a bullet. Just look at the Japanese zero.
@@HuiYingHong-b8q I think you're stuck in 1942 bud
Japan always take copyrights seriously. Meanwhile China...
China have a half copy J-10😮😅
A copy is a copy, you both are still copying American engineering…
@@ianrichards909 do you think americans don't copy others ? Oh you sweet summer child...
@@matthiasdarrington3271 - Nope, Americans invent practically everything… you Japanese and Chinese copy practically everything American…
China takes the software engineer approach to everything and forgets the fact that software engineers only get to pull that shit cuz they can spend the rest of the product's lifecycle squashing out the bugs.
F-2's main theme is anti-ship combat so it has to have more durable canopies and a larger combat radius
Japanese planes have no self sealing fuel tanks, poor amour with no protectionism for the pilot and easily turn into a ball of flames even by a bullet. Just look at the Japanese zero.
@@HuiYingHong-b8q Lol You're Chinese and still stuck in 1942.
Also that wasn't even true in the mid to late war. Planes like the strong, fast, and agile Ki-84 were well armored.
@@HuiYingHong-b8qIn comparison, China despite being the world's toilet for cheap manufacturing cannot build its own reliable jet engines...still relying on Russia who is not even a formal ally. 😂
@@user-pn3im5sm7k the Ki-84 performed insanely well given the late war manufacturing and fuel issues. That thing was a beast.
See. It's all down to the paint job! Nice one!
The Australian F-111's were modified with a larger wingspan to give them longer legs also.
The Japanese people are hardworking and always striving for perfection. They improve the original.
They used to be called copycats not too long ago. Seems people forget easily. Reminds me of another East Asian country right now…
That's why they are struggling to create autopilot cars and buses... They even hired people from the USA and opened some offices there...
People over glorified Japanese people, they are ori people. Anyone can be hardworking too
They work long hours but the idea of getting something done so you can get home early is not encouraged. I lived in Japan for a couple of years. I felt sorry for those poor people who did little but spend time at work. They also have very few holidays. Great place to visit but I wouldn't want to live there.
Copycat is always a copycat
that is standard japanese procedure, all their MBTs are upgraded "japanized" german Leopard Tanks. Find an excellent platform and adjust it with your own superior technic. Saves billions in R&D and while using components the maintenance doesn´t rely on other nations
They don’t have German tanks
@@greyhansenndelara9082 type 90 is quite similar to 2A4, but with a autoloader and a hydropneumatic suspension. Also it uses the RH L44 gun, but in the Type 90s case it wasn't licensed Leopard, but they definetly used Leopard as an inspiration for it.
@@Llamajake777 that´s what i am saying. Type 74, was designed on base of the Leopard 1 and American M60, Type 87 on base of the German Gepard, Type 90 on base of German Leopard 2. Type 73 is based on the American M113 and the Toyota BXD 10 is baes on the American HMMV. Find a good existing platform and adjust it to your needs.
US be like: I am so proud of you
So basically one day, the top in the class forgot to do assignment and decided to copy the ones from his friend. But then he realized he can do it better.
Japanese engineers were on a whole nother level during the last quarter of the 20th century
Yup and in the first quarter of this one, Chinese.
Japanese planes have no self sealing fuel tanks, poor amour with no protectionism for the pilot and easily turn into a ball of flames even by a bullet. Just look at the Japanese zero.
@@HuiYingHong-b8qbanzai!
The Mitsubishi F2, in keeping with tradition, has a small glove xompartment for one Hachimaki and a small bottle of Sake.
But where to put the oni giri?
@@heroofharo breast pocket
Any room for sushi and ichiraku ramen
The Buick engine joke was brilliant
Ap tell us how did the Chinese get a replica of the F22
F16: "Who are you?"
F2: "I am you, but blue and Japanese."
Wasn’t the F2 also made specifically for anti ship warfare?
Pretty much, while recently Japan has started putting F-35s on their helicopter carriers that's relatively new, and for decades they didn't have an aircraft carrier.
Being an island nation who's domestic food supply and exports are heavily involved with seafood, and having so many extra islands to manage, having a good maritime patrol is vital, it makes perfect sense they'd want a capable strike fighter with good range.
@@G1NZOU Perhaps they should have gone with the F-15E instead, which I believe has more range and faster. Plus it enables better commonality with the F-15J that the JASDF is flying.
Give the Japanese back their military
I agree.. I feel like they have paid and showed enough that they are not like their previous generation that fought us during world war 2.. they are a great ally to America and the world.. also that would put China on a leash on doing whatever the hell they want in the far east coast area..
The F-2 wound up being heavier than expected and the composite wing developed cracks. Ultimately it led to an aircraft with a higher wing loading and lower thrust to weight ratio than the F-16.
This was remedied back in 1999. However the recently cracked wing is speculated to be due to seismic activity.
Although that aside, Lockheed Martin and wing issues go hand in hand so it's not all that surprising.
That airframe comparison, if real, is an entirely different aircraft
I remember the F2 in the Familiar of Zero. Man what a throwback
Well, it's japan so it's okay. At least they improved it. China just does it blatantly.
China just takes your homework and makes a bad copy. Japan reworks your homework and fixes your mistakes.
@@ihdieselman its quite outdated now, so the next jet fighter we are gonna see is probably the F-35 but blue and extremely modified
@@F.B.Inah, Japan is working with Italy and uk on their own stealth fighter
@@marvelous5038I thought they were making two? One is a home grown project and the other was the collaboration with the UK and Italy.
@@steve1279 I think their design was integrated with the tempest project with uk and Italy but I maybe wrong
F-16: I'm affordable!
F-2: I'm expensive!
F-16: "He does everything I do..."
F-2: "But better."
I'm sure there must be arguments for the smaller control pannels and smaller wings, too (reduced drag instantly comes to mind). These are so simple changes, I can't immagine they didn't come to mind when the F-16 was designed and if they did, I can't immagine them just ignoring them for no reason what so ever.
Yes, color is the only thing different.
Its bit different in size i think
Not sure
No.the f2 is significantly bigger and much of its internal and structural layout is changed.
Primary diff, he was prov jokn@@ita_spartan_lover8458
again it's probably a jok, how's dense enough to not watch the 30 sec video fully through until the end.
@@Darryl_D._Daniels I know that. I watched the video. Just repeating the joke made at the end.
F 16 : Who are you?
F2 : I'm better than you !!
"The biggest difference is the F-2 is blue and the F-16 is gray."
Meanwhile, the Navy's blue colored F-16N...
Japan: if you don't want to allow us to build our own fighter jets than lemme get yours license and modified them
F-16 Voice warning system when enemy missile lock: Warning Warning
F-2: Battotai starts playing
Domestic model modified and built by Mitsubishi,not a copy
So basically... JDM fighter jet
it is, they never designed the aircraft
they just made a cheap aircraft more expensive
F-2 was put on a lot of restrictions by the Americans to made what it is today, not to mention some of the tech invented by the Japanese in making the F2 was “reciprocated” to the Americans such as AESA and full carbon wing manufacturing process.
yep, Lockheed Martin got a LOT more out of the deal. It was a contentious point of the agreement considering how much R&D was given away.
add it to WAR THUNDER
Make it a 60$ premium
Military secret: it can also transform into a sword-wielding mech
The F2 probably has a Gerwalk mode and a full batroid mode like in Robotech but the Japanese are keeping it top secret.
Great sleeper airplane
you can copy my homework but change it a bit so it doesnt look like you copied
More like copy, find a bunch of mistakes, fix them, and get a better grade.
@@bindingcurvebut they didn’t…
Cmon gaijin plsss
Awaiting F2 RWB tuned version 😅
It was also the first fighter to be equipped with an AESA radar
F16: you can copy my homework but dont make it obvious
F2:
When it comes down to it, it really depends on who’s flying the plane
F16 also has a 1-piece bubble canopy whereas the F2 has a 2-piece bow canopy that is reinforced for bird strikes.
Frozen or thawed?
@@Justanotherconsumer deep fried
F-16:who are you ?
F-2: I am you but better .
F-16: I’m a flying Buick, what are you .
F-2 : I’m a flying Toyota that’s been souped up Tokyo Drift style.
F35: Why not me?
F22: Idk, i only look the same in some parts
F5: i don't even look the same as my brothers
This thing can actually transform like a Macross