I have a neutron Zenith in the same color and it is board flat! It might be good to compare the wraith to those 11 speeds since a lot of people have thrown or there is a higher chance they own one. Super excited for multi disc reviews
Would like to see you add the lark to the list on stokley discs. Also you should get the disc in his other plastic types that are available on infinite now.
The disc art on the IT is directly literal to the two molds they combined to create it. Roadrunner top (wings), leopard bottom. Its as flippy as a leopard but with more glide. You might like the champ one cause the late fade will be useful.
I didn't know that, but it makes sense that I'd love how it feels, since I also love throwing the leopard! Are you sure the top of the disc isn't an eagle. They have wings as well. 😉
Excited to see all these review videos, amazing content and commitment. Thank you Bodanza for all the work and please always keep Baby Bogey's little noises in the videos. Keep it real, we appreciate it.
It’s funny that you picked up the IT and the Alien, both were discs I really enjoyed when I first started, I dropped the Alien this last year because I thought there were better options, but still bag a IT!
I think you are going to have a lot of fun with the It in elevation. I bagged one for a while for my flippy fairway, but they ended up slowly getting pushed out of the bag. They can BOMB!
I know u hated the H13 discs u reviewed but we have new plastics, a brand new overstable mid range and the distance driver is being remodeled so would love to see u revisit those
Heads up on the Zenith and Terra - if they're the newer runs they might be understable for you. The older runs were flatter and more stable, the newer ones have a slight dome and a lower PLH. The Zenith I recently bought flies similar to a Wave, sadly 👀
I love the Innova IT I have the champion hyzer release that flips with slight turn to a late fade. Flat and light anny has a dependable turn. My DX IT is a pure under stable roller. Throw it flat it’s rolling for days and on an extreme hyzer it flips and has a smooth turn. Definitely a different shape to it but very fun to throw and shot shape.
on that idea of multiple mold comparisons-- I would love to see a "neutral control driver in the 8-9 speed slot" video with the Clash Cinnamon, Innova TL3, Discraft Passion, and Discmania CD1 etc etc
I knew people who used the Skeeter as a putter back in the 2000's when the mold first came out because they wanted a disc/mold if using a premium version for non putter needs, they could do both putting and approach with, tilting the disc for when needing an overstable approach shot, this was back when less choices were on the market for putter discs. My dad had one of the Skeeter, but it was too close to where he used when he played his Lighting Rubber Putter as his straight approach disc/long putter when not using his old run, Ching Juju. My brother has that Skeeter disc in his bag for beginners/people without a bag who rarely play.
You should try EV-7 Penrose for putting if you’re trying out putters similar to The PA-3. I was going to switch to the PA-3 a couple years ago but my friend gave me a Penrose to try … plastic is perfect for putter plastic and it’s slightly shallower than the PA-3 with the bead being smaller as well making the hand shape perfect (IMO)
A suggestion for a review, 10 speed showcase/tournament. Innova Beast v Gorgon v Infinite Aztec v MVP Trail v Finish Line Era v (wildcard) Discraft Avenger SS. ✌️
IT stands for Innova Technology. Also for your stable 7 speed conundrum you might try and find some stock penned teebirds, they’re a classic for a reason
I really wanted to like the spin since simon whet to it pretty quick when he switched to mvp but the curved under side where the rim meets the flight plate kept me from getting a good grip for throwing. I could never keep it flat. I also do use a power grip with all discs so if you do fan grip it may not be bad.
A big difference with the photon and zenith is the sharpness of the nose. Zenith is more blunt and more about control. Also, The newer runs of mvp have had more dome which have made the zenith and Terra runs much better. Terra and zenith were both super flat in the first runs which really impacted their glide.
If you are looking for a comparison of discs if you have a Wizard, it is close to a Judge as well if that is what you are looking for in disc that are similar to the P2x.
The kon-tiki replaced both the mirage and stingray in my bag. I felt like the stingray would not hold a turn as much as I wanted that slot to, but my mirage was just too flippy. The Kon-tiki is a nice middle ground that has reliable flip at any power from 50-100%, but won't over-flip unless you really smash it. I totally understand why JK throws it. Its very workable on turnover lines.
The kon tiki is the mirage they look alike and have the same measurements and the flight numbers are just 1 number off its just like the exodus was rhe Eagle L mold
MVP 11 speed driver overview from my own completely objective opinion: The wave is perfect for beginner to intermediate players for max distance. Basically a slightly beat in wraith. Fission waves are bombers and way more flippy than other plastics. The photon is ideal as a wraith comparison. Flies almost identically to the wraith. Gets significantly different flights depending on plastic or run. The zenith is a faster volt. Imagine an eagle that has an eleven speed wing. Doesn't fly quite as far as a true distance driver, but makes up with it's dependability. (This is all my opinion and is not actually objective.)
I wanted to get along with the IT but it was just too touchy for me. I had one in Star plastic. The Eagle(Vela&L molds) and innova-made Star FD's are my favorite 7 speeds.
VIDEO IDEA: Now that Isaac Robinson has signed with Lat 64 (see the video Lat 64 released today w/Isaac and his wife visiting their factory) you should challenge him to some rounds at courses near you and near his home w/his new bag of Lat 64 discs (even though it might take him a while to figure out what he's throwing)! I'm curious to see what he'll putt with now that PA-3s are off the table.
Same with the ones I've felt. My 160g fission started off spot on or maybe slightly flippier than its numbers, but the edge is really soft and beats in really quickly.
Your daughter's laughs are amazing she sounds like she's having a blast in the background
Id love to see a PA-5 added to that spin video!
I have a neutron Zenith in the same color and it is board flat! It might be good to compare the wraith to those 11 speeds since a lot of people have thrown or there is a higher chance they own one. Super excited for multi disc reviews
You should add the DGA sonar to your PA3 and P2x review
Chris Dickerson started using it after leaving prodigy because he missed the PA3, or so I've heard
Try a Colorglow teebird3 for that 7/8 speed slot!
Would like to see you add the lark to the list on stokley discs. Also you should get the disc in his other plastic types that are available on infinite now.
The disc art on the IT is directly literal to the two molds they combined to create it. Roadrunner top (wings), leopard bottom. Its as flippy as a leopard but with more glide. You might like the champ one cause the late fade will be useful.
Are u sure it's not the other way around? I've always thought the bottom of the IT and roadrunner were identical.
I didn't know that, but it makes sense that I'd love how it feels, since I also love throwing the leopard! Are you sure the top of the disc isn't an eagle. They have wings as well. 😉
How'd this banana get all my discs 👀
Excited to see all these review videos, amazing content and commitment. Thank you Bodanza for all the work and please always keep Baby Bogey's little noises in the videos. Keep it real, we appreciate it.
It’s funny that you picked up the IT and the Alien, both were discs I really enjoyed when I first started, I dropped the Alien this last year because I thought there were better options, but still bag a IT!
Sweet! I just got a Start IT so I’m excited to see you throw it in the other plastics
I was using the "it" in my roc 3 place. I'm excited to see that review.
Nice, cool disc. Pumped for the OH game, I’m an OSU fan.
I think you are going to have a lot of fun with the It in elevation. I bagged one for a while for my flippy fairway, but they ended up slowly getting pushed out of the bag. They can BOMB!
I love the Alien so much. It's my favorite backhand approach disc.
I know u hated the H13 discs u reviewed but we have new plastics, a brand new overstable mid range and the distance driver is being remodeled so would love to see u revisit those
Heads up on the Zenith and Terra - if they're the newer runs they might be understable for you. The older runs were flatter and more stable, the newer ones have a slight dome and a lower PLH. The Zenith I recently bought flies similar to a Wave, sadly 👀
I love the Innova IT I have the champion hyzer release that flips with slight turn to a late fade. Flat and light anny has a dependable turn. My DX IT is a pure under stable roller. Throw it flat it’s rolling for days and on an extreme hyzer it flips and has a smooth turn. Definitely a different shape to it but very fun to throw and shot shape.
on that idea of multiple mold comparisons-- I would love to see a "neutral control driver in the 8-9 speed slot" video with the Clash Cinnamon, Innova TL3, Discraft Passion, and Discmania CD1 etc etc
I knew people who used the Skeeter as a putter back in the 2000's when the mold first came out because they wanted a disc/mold if using a premium version for non putter needs, they could do both putting and approach with, tilting the disc for when needing an overstable approach shot, this was back when less choices were on the market for putter discs. My dad had one of the Skeeter, but it was too close to where he used when he played his Lighting Rubber Putter as his straight approach disc/long putter when not using his old run, Ching Juju. My brother has that Skeeter disc in his bag for beginners/people without a bag who rarely play.
You should try EV-7 Penrose for putting if you’re trying out putters similar to
The PA-3.
I was going to switch to the PA-3 a couple years ago but my friend gave me a Penrose to try … plastic is perfect for putter plastic and it’s slightly shallower than the PA-3 with the bead being smaller as well making the hand shape perfect (IMO)
Have you thrown a Innova Wolf? I got one out of a used bin, and it's very angular, like every angle you can think of
Cool discs!
Some flight number graphics and a little more screen time for the stamps would be very appreciated.
Would love to see you compare those glow Mantras to the Plume Mantra.
A suggestion for a review, 10 speed showcase/tournament. Innova Beast v Gorgon v Infinite Aztec v MVP Trail v Finish Line Era v (wildcard) Discraft Avenger SS. ✌️
I throw the Innova Champion IT, and it is one of my favorite discs
I’m so interested in the Yin Yang discs!
IT stands for Innova Technology. Also for your stable 7 speed conundrum you might try and find some stock penned teebirds, they’re a classic for a reason
I really wanted to like the spin since simon whet to it pretty quick when he switched to mvp but the curved under side where the rim meets the flight plate kept me from getting a good grip for throwing. I could never keep it flat. I also do use a power grip with all discs so if you do fan grip it may not be bad.
Gannon Buhr’s glazier too ofc
A big difference with the photon and zenith is the sharpness of the nose. Zenith is more blunt and more about control. Also, The newer runs of mvp have had more dome which have made the zenith and Terra runs much better. Terra and zenith were both super flat in the first runs which really impacted their glide.
For the MVP 11 speed video, I'd love to see the photon you use be fission, or maybe multiple. It is a completely different flying disc honestly.
Stokely disc are amazing i bag all them. including the lark. i putt with the wren.
If you are looking for a comparison of discs if you have a Wizard, it is close to a Judge as well if that is what you are looking for in disc that are similar to the P2x.
The kon-tiki replaced both the mirage and stingray in my bag. I felt like the stingray would not hold a turn as much as I wanted that slot to, but my mirage was just too flippy. The Kon-tiki is a nice middle ground that has reliable flip at any power from 50-100%, but won't over-flip unless you really smash it. I totally understand why JK throws it. Its very workable on turnover lines.
The kon tiki is the mirage they look alike and have the same measurements and the flight numbers are just 1 number off its just like the exodus was rhe Eagle L mold
I have the spin. You don’t need to put much on it for it to flip. It’s good for touchy shots you need to flip.
MVP 11 speed driver overview from my own completely objective opinion:
The wave is perfect for beginner to intermediate players for max distance. Basically a slightly beat in wraith. Fission waves are bombers and way more flippy than other plastics.
The photon is ideal as a wraith comparison. Flies almost identically to the wraith. Gets significantly different flights depending on plastic or run.
The zenith is a faster volt. Imagine an eagle that has an eleven speed wing. Doesn't fly quite as far as a true distance driver, but makes up with it's dependability.
(This is all my opinion and is not actually objective.)
You should compare the DGA Sonar to the P2X and PA3. Ezra Robinson is putting with them, and so is Chris Dickerson.
Try the fudge in the comparison with the pa-3 and p2x, they feel similar
Love the frolf channel….you need to get a round in against Brodie
Would love to see a Lat64 Gauntlet up against the Pa3 and p2x!
The IT will grow on you it takes a second to get used to but once you do it can be used for so May shots!
Pretty sure the Slab is the PD3 mold from Discmania’s time with Innova.
Where did you get the p2x with the huk dye on it?
With Isaac likely to be putting with the peak would you throw that in with the PA3 and P2X review vid?
Man, frisbees are awesome
I wanted to get along with the IT but it was just too touchy for me. I had one in Star plastic. The Eagle(Vela&L molds) and innova-made Star FD's are my favorite 7 speeds.
heck yea
VIDEO IDEA: Now that Isaac Robinson has signed with Lat 64 (see the video Lat 64 released today w/Isaac and his wife visiting their factory) you should challenge him to some rounds at courses near you and near his home w/his new bag of Lat 64 discs (even though it might take him a while to figure out what he's throwing)! I'm curious to see what he'll putt with now that PA-3s are off the table.
He wants to try to putt with the spike.
Night night, Bogie. Sweet dreams.
I think the kon tiki is just the mirage with a different top
The IT is a roadrunner bottom with a leopard top
NOT A SINGLE GUAVA??
you should do a spin versus ruby challenge
Brutus pillow pet! OH
All the Defys I felt in my local store had the same problem, so I think its just how it is unfortunately😢 But mine files great
Same with the ones I've felt. My 160g fission started off spot on or maybe slightly flippier than its numbers, but the edge is really soft and beats in really quickly.
Link
Still waiting on some millennium!
It vs Servo!!! Trust me👍
If you need to borrow a lightweight proton spin let me know
It has always been a 7 speed. Champ it is more stable
Ultra vs Glacier vs Md5/Quake
Wraith vs DD1 vs Defy vs grace
PA3 vs p2x vs nomad
Praxis vs proxy vs p2
Luster champ invader
Ching juju would be awesome review
A good mixture of frisbees 🥏