My father was the best father in the world. He physically disciplined me which I needed and taught me respect for authority. He showed sacrificial love which was motivated by his faith. Sorry you didn’t have the same experience Nate.
I was confronted by your family at a concert in Kansas City in the early 2000's. It was right after 9/11 and I remember the hate spewed at me and my now deceased friend on that evening when we just wanted to enjoy a night on the town. I had never experienced anything like that before and it was terrifying. I tried to maintain a brave face and confront you and the hate I experienced was frightening. I'm so glad to see that many members of your family have come to your senses. No one should have to endure that. Funny, the people giving the concert wanted to give your people water. They said that on stage. It was a hot summer night, after all.
My heart aches for all touched by that cult. I too grew up in a cult, the Plymouth Brethren. I thought God would kill me, or worse, my children, if I left. I was terrified but I had to support my children who had revealed sexual abuse from the time they were small. There is nothing so sweet and so difficult as freedom.
I am so happy you got away and listened to your children, instead of brushing their needs aside. I hope everything works out for all of you. You are so brave .. and welcome to the world :)
@@davidralphs4 They vary widely across the world and there are many, many branches of them but having been raised there, I can tell you my hatred of their teachings is very deep.
@@snowrider4495 To have true eternal life you must erase the en-tropic thoughts on your being and FEARS that support it, and then build a place of humbleness, so you can be a light for the world that we're in. Then learn things from Jordan Peterson.
They're all lawyers, even Fred Phelps Sr. was a civil rights attorney in the 60's, before he was disbarred. He represented African American clients in discrimination cases and worked to dismantle the Jim Crow laws in Kansas. The church is largely funded by the lawsuits that the Phelps' family law firm file against people or entities, who they think have violated their 1st amendment rights during protests or their right to freedom of religion.
@@ArtGirl82 yeah I know this from Shirley explaining on Tyra. I think it's a damn shame they had this indoctrination, they could have been great role models. They've ruined themselves.
I've been obsessed since the first Louis T doc. They're lovely people individually, all silly fun and lols, but they were clearly captive to Fred Phelps violence and mania. I always rooted for them to get out. Meghan Phelps Roper is a great speaker too. I can't wait to read Unfollow.
I had the kindest most imperfect man as a father. He drank too much, partied too much, cheated too much and spent money he didn't have. But I never felt unloved. On the contrary I felt adored. He was an atheist, too. I miss him every day, he's been gone 40 years.
Well yes, but God is also 'The Power of three of the Father(Spirit), Mother(Will), and HEart(son). They created the Divine Cosnciousness which is also our version fo OuterSpace.
@@antoineralic01 I regret your experience. However please take into context where their response is coming from. We live in a world that is ruled by religion and the religious. Being an atheist is being subject to a multitude of threats all the way down to loss of life. This has been the attitude towards the atheist minority for a very VERY long time. It made me angry too until I realized that the only way to make a change was through being calm and open minded. It is not easy when faced with such powerful and dangerous opposition. Please try and be patient.
A ray of light Condemned to grope Through the dark transgression cave Told you must find lifes purpose In blackness without hope Denied the luminance of her mind Until at last she find the darkness kind Religion child curl up touch your tail Say a prayer Great damage is done To this precious resource
Our Holy God is a God of Love! Sadly that is not what Fred taught - Our holy Savior Jesus Christ died on the cross for the forgiveness of our sins & our Lord Jesus Christ rose again in the defeat of death, sin, hell & the devil - God's will is that we believe in the power of his redemption, love & mercy in everlasting life with him.
Carolyn Treadwell forgive me but it sounds like you are repeating the same things from that book that Phelps did only you are calling it love, I find it ironic. It’s like you cannot put the religious doctrine aside to think about this mans message
@@marciachristoff904 Oh I have thought about Phelps message - Yet it was God's love, through the power of his word, that made me trust/believe I could come to the Lord and ask his forgiveness without fear, humbled with tears of joy, praise, and worshipful thanksgiving, overflowing at the revelation of my saviors love and compassion.
@@moonbathing2002 I don't know what evil thing you did, but it is more important to be able to forgive one self if you ever want to come clean. That is why a lot of people try to find forgiveness outside of themselves because it is so much easier. It is time to take responsibility, not shake off a burden with cheap absolution.
@@katerkarlo159 Hi, no worries I was not guilt ridden and unable to forgive myself! This is about turning to God with him being my righteousness - no 'cheap' absolution'! You see, all sin brings death and separates us from God no matter how big or small that sin may appear to us! God does not hate the sinner, he loves the sinner - in our sinful state he suffered crucifixion/death in our place - with unconditional love! Praise his holy name.
@@moonbathing2002 l don't mean to sound confused but when God is immortal and knows it, how can he ever sacrifice himself, let alone watch idly as children are being sacrificed now? I'm sorry but this makes no sense to us. I understand that having the strongest being in the universe as a friend makes you feel good, less fearful, but, if you excuse the comparison, Pablo Escobar's friends felt the same way and were also to scared of the consequences to say "stop, this is enough". No offense, but I think you ought to try and feel good about yourself through healthier means.
The Catholic Church is the same, you have a form of Calvinism there in the doctrines of Augustine and Thomas. Many Traditional Catholics will treat their children the same.
Jesus preached to the religious that they were blind guides. Nate, Grace, & Megan have been unable to hear that message. Jesus said call no man Rabbi, Father, or Master. I pray they hear Jesus instead of Fred
not sure what hates they prefer to ignore???... and sidewinder or not mention....over and over...... its getting old..... 80 yrs old...... same agenda.... same two protagonist.... the rest ..... ignored forgoten exept if......
@@biancachristie please do continue. If you think the Phelps were anything other than a manufactured disinformation operation then the old adage " there is a sucker is born every minute" is correct.
The cure for cancer is not a less lethal cancer. My sincere thanks to Nate for his courage and honesty.
Thank you Nate, for being courageous enough to push through hate from one of the strongest of haters ... for love.
I can't get enough of Nate Phelps. Fantastic man.
My father was the best father in the world. He physically disciplined me which I needed and taught me respect for authority. He showed sacrificial love which was motivated by his faith. Sorry you didn’t have the same experience Nate.
You poor deluded fool.
This dad is amazing. What a true hero. I hope he can feel the immense respect we all have for him.
I was confronted by your family at a concert in Kansas City in the early 2000's. It was right after 9/11 and I remember the hate spewed at me and my now deceased friend on that evening when we just wanted to enjoy a night on the town. I had never experienced anything like that before and it was terrifying. I tried to maintain a brave face and confront you and the hate I experienced was frightening. I'm so glad to see that many members of your family have come to your senses. No one should have to endure that.
Funny, the people giving the concert wanted to give your people water. They said that on stage. It was a hot summer night, after all.
My heart aches for all touched by that cult. I too grew up in a cult, the Plymouth Brethren. I thought God would kill me, or worse, my children, if I left. I was terrified but I had to support my children who had revealed sexual abuse from the time they were small. There is nothing so sweet and so difficult as freedom.
I am so happy you got away and listened to your children, instead of brushing their needs aside. I hope everything works out for all of you. You are so brave .. and welcome to the world :)
@@TheNerdess Thank you! It's a wonderful place.
Plymouth Brethren are the worst. A filthy, loathesome and uneducated people.
@@davidralphs4 They vary widely across the world and there are many, many branches of them but having been raised there, I can tell you my hatred of their teachings is very deep.
Thank you for your wise and brave disclosure of your unfortunate past and now carrying a new message to the world.
Can u imagine being entrapped into your 50’s and not knowing you could get out?
When I was religious I was a mean sob! When I lost my religion I became a helper to anyone that needs help without the book telling me I had to do it!
But in reality, all religion is notheing but RULES, RITUALS and ROUTINES
@@antoineralic01 how would you know weirdo racist
Snow Rider : the thing that matters is having eternal life and there is only one way to have it.
@@golightly5121 oh I see? Have you or anyone you have known ever experienced eternal life? I just curious how anyone would know?
@@snowrider4495 To have true eternal life you must erase the en-tropic thoughts on your being and FEARS that support it, and then build a place of humbleness, so you can be a light for the world that we're in. Then learn things from Jordan Peterson.
Wonderfully articulate and meaningful.
They're all so intelligent and well spoken that strikes me the most.
They're all lawyers, even Fred Phelps Sr. was a civil rights attorney in the 60's, before he was disbarred. He represented African American clients in discrimination cases and worked to dismantle the Jim Crow laws in Kansas. The church is largely funded by the lawsuits that the Phelps' family law firm file against people or entities, who they think have violated their 1st amendment rights during protests or their right to freedom of religion.
@@ArtGirl82 yeah I know this from Shirley explaining on Tyra. I think it's a damn shame they had this indoctrination, they could have been great role models. They've ruined themselves.
@@ArtGirl82 and I must add I'm not surprised they're intelligent at all, just that it strikes me. They're obviously above average intelligence. Sad.
I've been obsessed since the first Louis T doc. They're lovely people individually, all silly fun and lols, but they were clearly captive to Fred Phelps violence and mania. I always rooted for them to get out. Meghan Phelps Roper is a great speaker too. I can't wait to read Unfollow.
I listened to the audiobook version, read by Megan herself. I thoroughly recommend it.
Read it recently, it is extremely well written and insightful
This is very good. Thank you for sharing your story Nate.
This man is father of the year. I'm so jealous of his kids.
Why?
@@Mikados_Advark12 well he does seem like a good guy. Weird statement though I agree
@Sabrina Murphy thank you for getting it lol
Idk why some can’t read between the lines, but my parents were awful. I so wish they were like Nathan.
I had the kindest most imperfect man as a father. He drank too much, partied too much, cheated too much and spent money he didn't have. But I never felt unloved. On the contrary I felt adored. He was an atheist, too. I miss him every day, he's been gone 40 years.
Miss you pastor phelps ! You knew the west was once a great country blessed by God, and wasnt ashamed to speak the truth
I'm curious, how long ago was this when the USA was greatly blessed by God?? Genuine question?
The man's a legend! :D
He is a very smart man
35:31 - cue standing ovation . . .
Nate and Megan should do tours about leaving hate behind 👍🏼
you are a good man
I wud love nate and Megan to do a talk together
I believe in God, and that God can be summed up in one word. That word is LOVE, beyond that any trying to describe a diety is futile.
Well yes, but God is also 'The Power of three of the Father(Spirit), Mother(Will), and HEart(son). They created the Divine Cosnciousness which is also our version fo OuterSpace.
I believe in God, and that God can be summed up in one word. That Word is JESUS, beyond that trying to describe a deity is futile.
@@golightly5121 Thanks, it's just that I have to deal with Atheists because of there egocentric nature when they speak to me.
@@antoineralic01 I regret your experience. However please take into context where their response is coming from. We live in a world that is ruled by religion and the religious. Being an atheist is being subject to a multitude of threats all the way down to loss of life. This has been the attitude towards the atheist minority for a very VERY long time. It made me angry too until I realized that the only way to make a change was through being calm and open minded. It is not easy when faced with such powerful and dangerous opposition. Please try and be patient.
I wonder if Nate sees his nieces and other family members that have left the group often?
The Abrahamic religions are bloody, the Abrahamic God always demands bloody sacrifices, sheep, goat, dove or human being.
Is Nate Phelps Shirley's brother.
Yes
The old Rambler . I had one.
If you need a good cry, check out Nate's narration of Something Beautiful on the Thinking Atheist channel.
50:00 Bertrand Russell was correct.
A ray of light
Condemned to grope
Through the dark transgression cave
Told you must find lifes purpose
In blackness without hope
Denied the luminance of her mind
Until at last she find the darkness kind
Religion child curl up touch your tail
Say a prayer
Great damage is done
To this precious resource
Our Holy God is a God of Love! Sadly that is not what Fred taught - Our holy Savior Jesus Christ died on the cross for the forgiveness of our sins & our Lord Jesus Christ rose again in the defeat of death, sin, hell & the devil - God's will is that we believe in the power of his redemption, love & mercy in everlasting life with him.
Carolyn Treadwell forgive me but it sounds like you are repeating the same things from that book that Phelps did only you are calling it love, I find it ironic. It’s like you cannot put the religious doctrine aside to think about this mans message
@@marciachristoff904 Oh I have thought about Phelps message - Yet it was God's love, through the power of his word, that made me trust/believe I could come to the Lord and ask his forgiveness without fear, humbled with tears of joy, praise, and worshipful thanksgiving, overflowing at the revelation of my saviors love and compassion.
@@moonbathing2002 I don't know what evil thing you did, but it is more important to be able to forgive one self if you ever want to come clean. That is why a lot of people try to find forgiveness outside of themselves because it is so much easier. It is time to take responsibility, not shake off a burden with cheap absolution.
@@katerkarlo159 Hi, no worries I was not guilt ridden and unable to forgive myself! This is about turning to God with him being my righteousness - no 'cheap' absolution'!
You see, all sin brings death and separates us from God no matter how big or small that sin may appear to us!
God does not hate the sinner, he loves the sinner - in our sinful state he suffered crucifixion/death in our place - with unconditional love! Praise his holy name.
@@moonbathing2002 l don't mean to sound confused but when God is immortal and knows it, how can he ever sacrifice himself, let alone watch idly as children are being sacrificed now? I'm sorry but this makes no sense to us. I understand that having the strongest being in the universe as a friend makes you feel good, less fearful, but, if you excuse the comparison, Pablo Escobar's friends felt the same way and were also to scared of the consequences to say "stop, this is enough". No offense, but I think you ought to try and feel good about yourself through healthier means.
The Catholic Church is the same, you have a form of Calvinism there in the doctrines of Augustine and Thomas. Many Traditional Catholics will treat their children the same.
London Thinks Nate Phelps leaving Hate Behind.
Jesus preached to the religious that they were blind guides. Nate, Grace, & Megan have been unable to hear that message. Jesus said call no man Rabbi, Father, or Master. I pray they hear Jesus instead of Fred
I pray they hear Jesus instead of John Calvin.
not sure what hates they prefer to ignore???... and sidewinder or not mention....over and over...... its getting old..... 80 yrs old...... same agenda.... same two protagonist.... the rest ..... ignored forgoten exept if......
You wrong the God you serve and i serve gave people free will to choose where you want to spend eternity
Nate, hit the treadmill and enjoy life ..its amazing .....your a goofball , grow up .....hahahahahahaha
something not quite right about this guy
His childhood?? His father? The damage done to a boy by a serial abuser? I have a list for you if you want me to continue
@@biancachristie please do continue. If you think the Phelps were anything other than a manufactured disinformation operation then the old adage " there is a sucker is born every minute" is correct.