I really appreciate you saying "they pop" when referring to taking the check plug out because,without that warning, when I took mine off I would have swore that I just broke something off in my trans...but,everything was cool! lol
Awesome work. This is the only way I service our 6F35 and 6F50. I remembered trying to use the BG machine and it was a pain trying to hook it up to the cooler lines. I do our fusion yearly or every 15-20k. Fluid is always nice and red. We are at 100k and shifts like new.
Did I hear you correctly? 150,000 on a Trans fluid change. Boss as anal as I am about maintenance on my cars, that would drive me nuts! Odd how the Trans fluid on newer cars goes black like that. You do a lot of extra work just to bring us these videos and I for one want to thank you for it. It's refreshing to find a mechanic that cares about the result of his work and the quality of his work.
My Ram with the ZF 8 speed says it is "filled for life"... Bullshit. Changed the fluid and filter at 62k and it was black as could be. Funny ZF who builds the transmission says to change it every 50-70k. Glad I listened to them and not Ram...
For folks that are into torque specs, the factory torque spec on the drain plug is 106 in. lbs (12 Nm). The leveling plug torque is 71 lb. in (8 Nm) if the thread size (not hex removal bit) is M10; or 26 ft lbs (35 Nm) if the thread size is M20. I believe the thread size in this video is M20 - which is removed using a 10mm hex bit. The INITIAL Fluid fill specs are 6.34 qts (6 L) if overhauling transmission to include main control and torque converter drain. For Main control overhaul or replace (without trans overhauls is 5.28 qts (5 L); or 4.23 qts (4 L) if just draining and filling. Then cycle thru each gear, bring up to operating temp and with engine running in park, add slowly until fluid is level with leveling plug hole.
VW really got the wet clutch DSG right as far as modern transmissions go. Very strong and sporty. Easy filter and fluid changes almost like an oil change, and the fluid cools the clutches to make them last a very long time. Still have to change fluid at 40k but I’ve seen many over 400k with nothing but scheduled fluid and filter, even 650k miles with no issues. Sometimes the Mechatronic unit goes out or the Dual Mass flywheel but it’s not a huge issue like most transmission problems are.
2nd generation fusion and Chevy cruise had the same transmission. I told my buddy about changing the fluid because he never does and he says oh no, you'll ruin it by changing it. Ok good luck with that. I'll be changing mine every 2 years thanks 😂😂. I have a 14 fusion btw.
My wife’s car is way over due so i will be ordering some fluid for it now and get this done. Will definitely get enough to do it twice to try and get most that old fluid out! Thanks for the great videos!!!
I fill these from the top, I just pour it in slow. I usually dump in 5 quarts and run it, hoping to get some of the crap out via the level plug. I had a Lincoln mkc couple months ago, unresponsive, shifted like shit. I ran about 10 quarts through it and it did fix it. That synthetic fluid is nasty looking, even at 60k. It comes out just as nasty on GM vehicles too
I changed the fluid on my 16 Fusion at 36, 37, and 42K miles. On the second fluid change the fluid looked like a muddy purple but better on the third change. I drive it to get it hot then check for full with the wheel turned all the way to the right to get at the plug. 3/8" hex socket fit nice in mine. With 3 changes I've done the fill level may not even be necessary because I know how much it took every time. And the amount has been consistent. I'll be changing it again on my next oil change. Currently at 60K miles.
I do mine with a cheap Walmart transmission fluid funnel that fits right into the rubber hose where you take the vent off Works every time it it never spills a drop
Just dang. I wish I had seen this 50k miles ago and didn't go by the Service book. I asked my local Ford dealer at the last oil change when it was time for a Trans fluid change. They said 150k. 94k now and only issue has been the purge valve. My 2012 Focus went to 198k before I traded it for a 2018 Focus. Traded my wife's 2015 Fusion for a 2018 on the same Day. So we have 2 2018 Fords. 1.5L Ecoboost on hers and 2.0L NA in mine.
been catching up on some of your older videos. your tires are just fine. i've had the same ones on my truck for 1 1/2 years. live in michigan, they're fantastic in snow too. and yeah, the guy that gave you a hard time? for the 'cheap tires?' well, you're right. very low road noise, they wear very nice too. jus' sayin'.
@@drunkingsailor2359 ecotech travelstar, 265/75 r 16. on my silverado. semi aggressive tread, but i do like them. comfortable ride. and for $400? well worth it... in my opinion anyway.
I did the level check the first time I changed mine, from then on I just use a marked paint mixing bucket to measure what comes out. 4.5 qts seems to put it right on the money and I fill from the top with a long skinny funnel through the vent cap. Have to pour it really slow or else it burps back up and makes a mess. The LV is some bizarre stuff but changing the fluid is super easy to do. I change mine often. Ive noticed for the longest time it was hard to find 5 qt jugs of LV, only could find in single qt bottles but now its readily available.
@@FordBossMe No. We have. super low mileage 2016 escape titanium with a 1.6. Got it from a family member down south and its kinda our spare vehicle. Sits in the garage a lot. I am getting ready to change careers so I'll not have my company provided vehicle after that (which ironically is also an Escape) so I'll start driving ours more.
@@klc317 spec is 4.2ish to make make sure it's full and I never even reach 4.2 I'm at like 4qts max I would be careful at 4.5qts careful to not overfill
Hello again, I service mine Kuga's 6F35 and PTU every 10k miles. However finding the LV fluid here in the UK for sensible money is difficult, Ford UK charge around $55 per quart !!!!!
Been watching your videos, just got the call from the dealer today that my car needs a new long block. 2017 fusion 2.0. Luckily it’s under the power train, They say its back ordered and it will be here in about 3 weeks.
_(Your video here about the dark fluid and changing it out 3 times and still dark looking is spot on)_ Same and my 1-2 shift feels hard to me so I baby it...going to unload it soon... stay away from escapes they are a mess. But it doesn't slip just 1-2 hard shifts some times keeps getting me from A to B I'm very scared it breaking and being a money pit.
I've done alot of oil analysis on my super duties, trans and engine, I've learned two things, the trans interval on a 6r140 is really only about 50k on factory fluid. Valvoline multi atf red label max life in the maroon bottle is the best fluid to use as it is the only dex 6 enhanced and mercon lv compatible fluid you can get thats not oem, on the half tons and super duty trucks in our fleet, trans is 50k interval and 30k interval respectively. I don't trust Ford fluids, I think they are not as good as some people say. I've done early fluid changes and even at a longer interval, it still looks good.
When i filled mine i took out the plastic plug in the vent and my long transmission funnel fits perfectly right in the rubber hose and holds it. Super easy to dump a few bottles of fluid in.
Yup i got the long green funnel can change the fluid in my fusion in about ten mins dont jack it up nothing easy job but 50$ a change im on 2nd drain in a week gunna do a 3rd to be sure just bought the car
The recommended service is a triple drain and fill. Capacity is 4 liters. 4.27 quarts. I use the vent hole. A good funnel with vinyl tube. I put PTFE tape on the drain plug thread.
Well you are on it Whatbinrecomend is by every 30k and no need to triple fill anything There is a reason why my recommendations work better than the factory bud
I recently bought a 2016 Ford Escape with the 6F35 @ 77k miles. It shifted hard at speed when it downshifted to accelerate. I followed the procedure by FordTechMakuloco. After draining I added 4 quarts and took it out for a spin to warm up the transmission(which definitely shifted smoother especially the downshift. Removed the tire/wheel and leveled the car then removed the side plug expecting a little fluid to drain out but didn't get any. I added an additional half a quart but didn't still didn't get any real drainage. I stopped at that point. The car is shifting smoothly. Old fluid was nasty. May do another flush at next oil change. Which I do every 5k.
Thanks for the video it’s a life saver I tried filling from the vent on the top side and you’re right it was a mess with only a 1/4 cup of fluid. I have a 2019 Edge it has no dip stick but has the same trans you showed. Thanks again brother!
We bought a 2018 Escape Titanium with 30k and I plan to do this very soon. I hope I don't have issues with the tranny over the years if I do it every 30k. Thanks for making this video. Looks easy enough, but wish I had a lift! I hate working from my back all the time.
You must do 2 to 3 drain and fills if you do it every 30,009 miles. I just do it every 10,000 miles, it takes 10 minutes. I fill through the vent hole and add 4-1/8 quarts.
@@CreatingExcellence Vent hole meaning the top of the engine area where the cap is right? So you don't bother to open the side overflow bolt? And that's the exact amount you need to fill it with? Just making sure I understand. 👍🏼
@@Trekopolisjust saw your comment. Yes, I fill it through the vent cap opening in the engine bay, I buy the gallon jug so it’s easy to pour in with a funnel. I’ve done the leveling procedure with the side bolt off while it’s running once. I change it so often I just drain it and fill it with 4-1/8 quarts. I know that’s not the most accurate method but my trans is original and I’ve done 12 drain and fills since I bought it with 94,000 miles and I have 165,000 miles now.
@@CreatingExcellence Thank you, I appreciate the response. I want to keep ahead of the transmission and plan to do this before winter. Have you ever considered adding a few ounces of Marvel Mystery Oil (MMO) to it? I've used it in practically everything I've ever owned. But, some people say never to use it and I never see any supporting evidence why you shouldn't.
Great info. I have done a drain and fill at every 30000 miles or less. Mine has been black. 85000 mi. I have changed it 3 times recently. To get new fluid.
The last time I change the transmission fluid in my 2017 Ford escape SE, the green little cap on the vent plug with the constant tension spring flew off somewhere in my engine bay. I finally found it about two hours later. When I change my transmission fluid this weekend, I’m going to do it the way you do by filling it through the check plug hole.
They did my Trans fluid on my 16 MKZ. Only got like 6.5 quarts out I guess. It's also a 13 hour Job to replace a $70 filter apparently so told them not to worry about it.
6F35, 6F50 and 6F55 (also the new 8 speeds) are all internal filters. Must remove transmission and split case to change filter which is why it's important to make sure you maintain your fluid to avoid plugging up your filter. If you still have warranty by all means but if you're out of warranty and don't want your transmission blowing up, change that fluid yourself. Simple drain and fill, you could also fill it slowly from up top, the vent hole. It's a vent so you have to make sure you don't go faster than air escaping or you'll make a mess.
If you keep changing the oil the filter is not an issue. Most transmissions have "screen" not a filter. If the transmission is wearing as it should the wear particles are so fine they flow through the screen - so it really shouldn't be catching anything. If your transmission has an issue and the clutches throw a few "chunks" that get caught in the screen it still shouldn't be an issue - plenty of screen area for the fluid to flow through and the chunks don't get circulated to clog a passage. If the transmission clutches throw enough "chunks" to clog the screen your transmission was toast anyway. Changing the screen wasn't going to fix the clutches that are failing.
You should start adding cetain tags in the comments or something so when someone says "I need to change the fluid in my '16 escape (or whatever year model/combination this could apply to), I'm going to see if there's a video" they can actually find your video. 98% of people have no clue what their transmission code is. Thanks for the advice!
Nothing to do with the EPA. Its marketing. Keep the cost of ownership to a minimum and use that to advertise how cheap it is to own a certain vehicle. They usually only advertise the first 100K of ownership. Neglecting maintenance in the first 100K takes thousands if not 100s of thousands of miles off the major powertrain components (engine, transmission, drive axles). The manufacturer only wants to get the car out of warranty as cheaply as they can. If the car drops dead at 100,000 miles they want to sell you a new one.
First I wanna say thanks for the advice on a previous video I commented about a power steering issue with a 17 F150. It was water intrusion in the connectors. His power steering works now. I also wanna add in relation to this video that my wife and I have a 17 honda fit with the CVT and I change the fluid every 30k miles. Since its a CVT. I dont want to risk it with that unit and I know what they cost. I will tell anyone with a CVT to have their fluid changed every 30k miles. Some people say they can go 70 80 or 100k and I'm like no not even in a standard automatic...
Thank You for coming back and letting me know it all worked out I help lots of people and they never come and check back in when it works out....but it makes me so happy when they do let me know what works
@@FordBossMe no problem. As a fellow technician I appreciate the help and wanted to let you know so you know you gave good advice. I sometimes wonder if the advice I give to others is what worked for them if they don't let me know later on.
Question: fill until overflows drain while engine running or off? I ask because I had engine running with fluid just at overfill line, then turned off engine (had not plugged yet) and fluid started coming out overflow.. so rushed to put cap back in.
Translation: Throw it Away, Buy Another! Seriously I have no clue why people buy anything with a Briggs anymore just pay for the Honda powered mower. They no longer make the solid flathead they use to have those engines lasted forever.
@@bryanmartinez6600 Honda will likely be next purchase, however the Toro brand equipment has treated us very very VERY well, it just came with the Briggs. I change the oil often instead hahaha!
I change my Escape trans fluid every 10,000 miles with Castrol Transmax LV and it’s red from one change to the next. It was not when I used Motocraft LV.
I did a drain an fill on my mazda skyactiv transmission at 60k and it was almost black Did it again 20k later and only then did the fluid look new. Funny thing is Mazda says the transmission fluid is "lifetime" 🙄 I wouldn't dare test that theory
I can do this on a 2018 Ford escape? My GFS escape has 35k miles and when it gets to 20-25mph it feels like a constant jerk hesitation and once you go over 35-40mph it goes smooth . Is that converter shudder? Read on some forums changing the fluid got rid of it. She's a yr past her 5 yr warranty
Gee, how I wish you were local. My 2015 Ford escape is having some issues. And yes I was told on this car when I got it that all fluids where changed I asked about the tranny fluid and the salesperson said it wouldn't need changed til 150,000 miles, now I have just.a little over 100,000 miles and boom issues. I'm so upset and irritated. I would of serviced this a long time ago if I knew, think they just wanted it off there lot.
Thanks for the video. I recently picked up a 2014 Escape Titanium @ 84,200 miles. Visually, the engine compartment and overall package was very clean. I had to do a few costly repair to pass Maryland's notoriously hard inspection process(which I feel is a racket, but I digress...). It passed in Virginia, btw. Had to replace the combined muffler/catalytic converter assembly which was an all one piece item. The local independent shop I usually use did a transmission fluid change. The fluid looked exactly as you have shown here. His tech said it may be going up, but I feel that it may be a normal look on these transmissions after seeing your vid and others like it. Added Lucas transmission conditioner after change and no problems shifting. consistent more pronounced shit into second, but not really out of character with other cars I've owned. will possibly change fluid again after 10,000 miles. I feel the trick with this Escape is to religiously maintain it. Any suggestions otherwise? Thank you.
That's not good, I noticed these trans's are hard on fluid, usually around 30K the fluid starts to change color. I always changed the fluid in my flex every 30-40K and the fluid looks brand new and still shifts like it did I I bought it off the lot. It's at 265,000.
I have a 15 explorer with this similar design so you just drain and fill with the same amount that came out? I want to do it myself but I don’t wanna mess it up
I'm not sure of not but take lose the return line off the cooler and use the transmission pump to "flush" the old fluid out. Takes about 3 gallons to complete.
The wife just bought a 2020 ecosport 2.0L 4wd . It looks like the same transmission . So LV fluid also ? I change the oils on our cars . Saves a ton of money .
I've done my transit 3 times at 60k this long fluid exchanges are bunk. Mine was starting to act funny here and there. The fluid exchanges has made it run like new. Wished I'd have started at 30k. I will continue to do it every other oil change until it looks normal. The first fluid I got out was terrible. No way would it have lasted over 100K
Correct me if I’m wrong but the newer Ford/Lincoln transmissions essentially have a thermostat inside of the transmission so it cooks the fluid until it gets up to temp and is at the proper viscosity so that it provides a better and smoother shift
I change my tranny fluid every 3rd oil change. If you stick to that rule your tranny will last waaaaaay longer. I'm not talking 10k oci's either. Your living in delusion if you think those kind of oci's are good.
Hey thanks for this video. I wish I'd found it sooner after me busting up my air box to get to the top plug! But I have. A question, how can you put let's say 4 qts in that side hole cold, and expected it to not be spilling out a bunch once it's warm and expanded? Thanks for the video again and hopefully an answer that will educate me further on the process.
Ford boss I have 2014 fusion and every 30000 and never gets that black I'm gonna keep changing mine the way I been never had any problems my is a 6f35 only problem I get sometimes is down shifting on hill it down shifting into a to low of a gear then the speed car is going but besides that shifting is great 👍
Mom has an 11 Malibu with the 6T40E which is basically a 6F35 and after about 36k miles the fluid is dark. I take it to the dealer and let them do a BG trans flush
I've heard the color of the fluid is just staining that comes from the type of clutch plate material they are using these days. Doesn't necessarily mean the fluid is bad.
I done this and PTU. The rear diff has different views on refilling it. One is measure what you suck out. Two is fill to what looks like a level plug and three fill to 4 mm below level plug. I like to know what Ford’s would do. Let’s for example the half axle drive shaft oil seal leaks. The oil seal is replaced so what level would I fill up to?
Hello my name is Alejandra and I need your help please, I am very worried because 3 months ago I bought a Ford Escape 2014 with 160 thousand miles I made a big mistake by not asking about the oil change in the transmission and now that I took it to the mechanic he told me that the oil looked very black with small particles that apparently the car had not had maintenance and that if I changed the oil in its entirety my transmission would go bad, he recommends me to change it little by little every 15 thousand miles, what do you recommend me I am not having a good time because I know that if it were to go bad the investment would be too high, watching your video in detail I can see that the oil that is drained from that vehicle is blacker than mine then I do not know what to do: ( ANY HELP PLEASE, I THANK YOU FROM THE BOTTOM OF MY HEART.
The gentleman is correct changing the oil a little bit at a time right now is going to be your best bet because if you change too much at one time it may mess up the transmission worse, unfortunately it may already be messed up and you're just on borrowed time
@@FordBossMe And how could I know if this oil isn't really changed? Because in your video you commented that the color is not necessarily a reliable indicative because now these boxes are making the color turn black quickly, and as I saw in your video the oil you removed from that Ford was blacker than mine, currently my car has not had any transmission problem
What’s your opinion on the 5R55 series of transmissions? They have a bad reputation, but Ford put them in a lot of vehicles. Is it just a matter of proper maintenance?
Nice work. I have '16 explorer 2.3l ecoboost with 6f35 transmission that I just got. Shifts fine but when i step on it little harder and it downshifts from 6th to 5th gear, i can feel a thud(not sure how to explain it) I feel like it might be due to not enough fluid in transmission. It has 67k miles but i dont know when was teansmission serviced last since I just got the car. Also at higher speed and lowee torque, I can see the change in rpms up and down +/- 200rpms Any suggestions? Car is still under full 60 day warranty but I am not too confident that the this auto dilership(Autonation chrysler) knows what they are doing since the are not Ford specific. I am in Phoenix, AZ so if you have any good shop to suggest let me know.
Good Tips, but change an alternator on an older model 4WD Escape and you'll find out what life's about, if i remember i had to pull the taillights to get that mother done......
Momma's 1995 red ranger with 3.0l 25 years old with 237k ive serviced the trans every 35k with filter i sucked out 3 qts with a power sucker once a year and replace just as a safety PM. After the orginal service. Using walmarts supertech warren oil co. Mercon trans fluid 4 qt jug for 14 bucks. Like you said fluid is cheap. The trans is original. I worder if ill get 300k out of the trans?
What I did to get the fluid nice and clean in my 2011 Escape is to change it out once, drive it a thousand miles, and then change it again. So that way, the new fluid can work out all of the dirt and grime from the cracks and crevasses of the transmission. On my second change, the fluid came out really dark (almost black). Once I put the new fluid in, it's never changed color, and I'm already 2,000 miles in. If you change the fluid 2-3 times immediately, you will never get it clean. It takes time and patience with these transmissions. I must add that the older design 6F35 is MUCH easier to work on compared to the newer ones.
But how did u check if it's full, I have a 2012 ford escape and it's damn hard to read the dipstick. The fluid splashes different each time I take it out. Can you tell me how to check it properly? Thanks. I believe a drain and fill is 4.5 quarts right? Did u use motorcraft mercon LV or other?
@@justlg3359 What I do (I don't recommend this if your emergency brake doesn't work), let your engine warm up for 3 minutes. Put your E-brake on, and put your car into drive. Hop out and check it twice. You will have an accurate hot reading. Also, I used Valvoline ATF full synthetic fluid, which has been tested to work in Mercon IV transmissions. It can take anywhere from 5 1/2, to 6 quarts. Depending on how long you let the old fluid drain out.
And here I thought going over 80k is bad. Oh lord. If manufacturers truly want the transmission to go that long they need to use some extremely good synthetic oil and a huge radiator cooler and maybe make the sump hold a few quarts more.
No manufacturer wants the car to last forever - they have new cars to sell. The extended engine oil and transmission services are the result of marketing - not from engineering research. To sell the car marketing needs "low" annual cost of ownership numbers. You get that by extending the service intervals. If you only have 9 oil changes in 100K and no transmission service the cost of ownership is very low. If you notice the cost of ownership numbers usually end at 100K. Crappy maintenance the first 100k shortens the life of the car by thousands if not 100s of thousands of miles. The manufacturer doesn't care because at that point they are out of warranty. Anyone that thinks 10K is a "good" engine oil change interval isn't looking at the oil coming out of these vehicles. The most I would consider is 5K. FWD transmissions need the fluid changed every 30K, most RWD transmissions (much more fluid) need to be changed at 50K - or more often if its being used to tow or haul. Now that most seem to have drain plugs changing the transmission oil is mush easier than it had been in the past. The biggest issue now is getting the right amount of fluid back in since many don't include a dipstick.
this looks the same as my ford transit connect which i think is the same as a fusion I filled it from the top, was annoying to have to take the lift up and down. seems like its was reccomended to do it while it was running and to go through reverse, neutral, forward, iirc the tranny dumps quite a bit o fluid back into the resevoir when car is off.
I feel like they are running the transmission fluid to hot to turn it black like that. Toyota in the RAV4 with a cooler does the same thing at 40,000 miles. I don't know what they are doing but those transmissions do fail earlier than normal
O.K. Ford Boss me. I have a 2017 Ford Titanium AWD 2.0 turbocharged engine I am at 30,000 miles. What do I need to do maintenance wise to prevent my Escape from costing me big money down the road? Please help! So far nothing has gone wrong. Shawn.
@@FordBossMe Thanks Ford Boss me. For the heads up! Your are a real true Man. I know you don't have to answer my RUclips questions. That's how you get subscriber's. I really appreciate you Dude. Shawn.
@@shawnbeck2303 go to the most important things that I wouldn't focus on because the eagle boost engines really go through spark plugs quick and people don't realize that
@@FordBossMe My friend took his 2018 Titanium Escape AWD 2.0 turbo to the Ford Dealership today. His engine light came on. The code said that there was water detected inside the engine. The dealership said they will have to go for a 5 hour test to find where the water leak is. He wanted to know if the engine oil and the water are mixed together or the water burned threw the cylinders and if the engine is done for. He has the best warranty he can buy through Ford. What does he do if that water has mixed with oil. Where does he go with Ford now. A new engine or fixed under his warranty? He has 35,500 miles on his Escape. No other issues so far. I told him what you said about his PTU, Trans flushing and plugs. He's scared to death that Ford will screw him over. Thanks Ford Boss me. Shawn.
That transmission takes about 9L of oil. When you pull the plug only about 4L of oil comes out. The torque converter holds half the oil. I've owned many vehicles and never had to change the transmission oil until recently. The 6F35 transmission has a huge filter and donut magnet to clean metal out of the fluid. The Transmission Control Module is not mounted on or in the transmission. Ford provides almost zero information to the home mechanic. FORD loves Ducking its customers.
it looks like someone poured motor oil in it... mine was a dark red /light brown at 112k not burnt graphite black. that's pretty concerning. of course mine was changed or at least checked frequently by the original owner.
I wish I had more time to do work on the side, RUclips and my regular job has consumed me and I haven't been able to do any side work in the last 3 months
I flush my Fusion with a trans flush machine. I pull the lines off the thermostat block and hook the cooler flush lines from the machine directly to the pipes coming out of the transmission. It works phenomenally. Hook it up and do a 12 or 16 quart flush and it gets real red. After I hook everything is hooked back up I pull the level plug and adjust accordingly. Usually its spot on and I don't have to add any or let any drain out.
@@richsweeney1115 There's nothing wrong with using a fluid exchanger to change out the fluid. It pushes old fluid out of one cooler line and puts the same amount of fluid back into the return line. I think that myth of not using a flush machine comes from people who have never serviced their fluid. Their transmission has problems and they get a flush to try to resolve said issue, and no amount of fluid or additives will fix it. It's already mechanically damaged and they they blame the flush for making it worse when it was already doomed from the start.
@@hewgull flushing an older tranny can clog the valve body, and passages. all you have to do is a drain and fill , maybe do it twice since you won't get all the fluid at once. it's still cheaper than a flush and you're not clogging anything. people need to learn to work on their own cars and trucks.
@@richsweeney1115 They do, as you said "An older transmission" AKA one that has never been serviced. I have fleet trucks with 250K plus on them that have had a trans flush every 30K with no issues. The problem is people don't service them.
i thought the 6F35 service process was "pull transmission and rebuild" :) What did they change between 2010-2012 and 2013+? Every 2013+ Escape including my own has had a rebuild needed, mine was at 50k miles
Would like to see any tips or tricks for a '19+ Edge transfer case drain and refill - from my understanding Ford decided to remove the drain plug/port - have to suck out the fluid from the fill port... Not looking forward to it...
Well I don't work at the dealer anymore I am a general manager at an independent shop so I work on everything now so you more than likely won't get that anytime soon
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Good practice to remove the fill plug first then the drain plug, just in case the fill plug can't be removed.
I really appreciate you saying "they pop" when referring to taking the check plug out because,without that warning, when I took mine off I would have swore that I just broke something off in my trans...but,everything was cool! lol
Wow, that trans fluid looks like a motor oil drain.
Awesome work. This is the only way I service our 6F35 and 6F50. I remembered trying to use the BG machine and it was a pain trying to hook it up to the cooler lines. I do our fusion yearly or every 15-20k. Fluid is always nice and red. We are at 100k and shifts like new.
Did I hear you correctly? 150,000 on a Trans fluid change. Boss as anal as I am about maintenance on my cars, that would drive me nuts! Odd how the Trans fluid on newer cars goes black like that. You do a lot of extra work just to bring us these videos and I for one want to thank you for it. It's refreshing to find a mechanic that cares about the result of his work and the quality of his work.
Most manufacturers don't recommend a trans service at all, so it's not really a surprise. Some claim the fluid is "lifetime"
My Ram with the ZF 8 speed says it is "filled for life"... Bullshit. Changed the fluid and filter at 62k and it was black as could be. Funny ZF who builds the transmission says to change it every 50-70k. Glad I listened to them and not Ram...
This man's comment gave me another 3 years on my FCA life. CHRYSLER LOL
@@gailgrove I work for Chrysler and love this channel. FordBossMe knows my life style change it early and often even the oil bubba!
ive changed fluid on a mazda at around 50K and a nissan truck, once at 30k and again around 90k..never saw it look that dark!
For folks that are into torque specs, the factory torque spec on the drain plug is 106 in. lbs (12 Nm). The leveling plug torque is 71 lb. in (8 Nm) if the thread size (not hex removal bit) is M10; or 26 ft lbs (35 Nm) if the thread size is M20. I believe the thread size in this video is M20 - which is removed using a 10mm hex bit. The INITIAL Fluid fill specs are 6.34 qts (6 L) if overhauling transmission to include main control and torque converter drain. For Main control overhaul or replace (without trans overhauls is 5.28 qts (5 L); or 4.23 qts (4 L) if just draining and filling. Then cycle thru each gear, bring up to operating temp and with engine running in park, add slowly until fluid is level with leveling plug hole.
VW really got the wet clutch DSG right as far as modern transmissions go. Very strong and sporty. Easy filter and fluid changes almost like an oil change, and the fluid cools the clutches to make them last a very long time. Still have to change fluid at 40k but I’ve seen many over 400k with nothing but scheduled fluid and filter, even 650k miles with no issues. Sometimes the Mechatronic unit goes out or the Dual Mass flywheel but it’s not a huge issue like most transmission problems are.
2nd generation fusion and Chevy cruise had the same transmission. I told my buddy about changing the fluid because he never does and he says oh no, you'll ruin it by changing it. Ok good luck with that. I'll be changing mine every 2 years thanks 😂😂. I have a 14 fusion btw.
My wife’s car is way over due so i will be ordering some fluid for it now and get this done. Will definitely get enough to do it twice to try and get most that old fluid out! Thanks for the great videos!!!
I fill these from the top, I just pour it in slow. I usually dump in 5 quarts and run it, hoping to get some of the crap out via the level plug. I had a Lincoln mkc couple months ago, unresponsive, shifted like shit. I ran about 10 quarts through it and it did fix it. That synthetic fluid is nasty looking, even at 60k. It comes out just as nasty on GM vehicles too
Thanks man. You just saved me allot of work taking all that shit apart under the hood to do a fill.
I changed the fluid on my 16 Fusion at 36, 37, and 42K miles. On the second fluid change the fluid looked like a muddy purple but better on the third change. I drive it to get it hot then check for full with the wheel turned all the way to the right to get at the plug. 3/8" hex socket fit nice in mine. With 3 changes I've done the fill level may not even be necessary because I know how much it took every time. And the amount has been consistent. I'll be changing it again on my next oil change. Currently at 60K miles.
Rich, Well done I'll change the fluid on my wife's 2019 Escape at 30,000. Great video, Thanks again.
Yvw
I do mine with a cheap Walmart transmission fluid funnel that fits right into the rubber hose where you take the vent off
Works every time it it never spills a drop
Same here,
Just dang. I wish I had seen this 50k miles ago and didn't go by the Service book. I asked my local Ford dealer at the last oil change when it was time for a Trans fluid change. They said 150k. 94k now and only issue has been the purge valve. My 2012 Focus went to 198k before I traded it for a 2018 Focus. Traded my wife's 2015 Fusion for a 2018 on the same Day. So we have 2 2018 Fords. 1.5L Ecoboost on hers and 2.0L NA in mine.
been catching up on some of your older videos. your tires are just fine. i've had the same ones on my truck for 1 1/2 years. live in michigan, they're fantastic in snow too. and yeah, the guy that gave you a hard time? for the 'cheap tires?' well, you're right. very low road noise, they wear very nice too. jus' sayin'.
What tires is that?
@@drunkingsailor2359 ecotech travelstar, 265/75 r 16. on my silverado. semi aggressive tread, but i do like them. comfortable ride. and for $400? well worth it... in my opinion anyway.
I did the level check the first time I changed mine, from then on I just use a marked paint mixing bucket to measure what comes out. 4.5 qts seems to put it right on the money and I fill from the top with a long skinny funnel through the vent cap. Have to pour it really slow or else it burps back up and makes a mess. The LV is some bizarre stuff but changing the fluid is super easy to do. I change mine often. Ive noticed for the longest time it was hard to find 5 qt jugs of LV, only could find in single qt bottles but now its readily available.
On your f150?
@@FordBossMe No. We have. super low mileage 2016 escape titanium with a 1.6. Got it from a family member down south and its kinda our spare vehicle. Sits in the garage a lot. I am getting ready to change careers so I'll not have my company provided vehicle after that (which ironically is also an Escape) so I'll start driving ours more.
@@klc317 spec is 4.2ish to make make sure it's full and I never even reach 4.2
I'm at like 4qts max
I would be careful at 4.5qts careful to not overfill
@@FordBossMe thanks
Hello again, I service mine Kuga's 6F35 and PTU every 10k miles. However finding the LV fluid here in the UK for sensible money is difficult, Ford UK charge around $55 per quart !!!!!
Been watching your videos, just got the call from the dealer today that my car needs a new long block. 2017 fusion 2.0. Luckily it’s under the power train, They say its back ordered and it will be here in about 3 weeks.
Good deal
What happened to motor?
@@a3300000 check engine light, rough idle right after start. Misfire/coolant in cylinder 2. 45k miles.
@@fusion3715 damn, sorry to hear that. At least it’s under warranty.
_(Your video here about the dark fluid and changing it out 3 times and still dark looking is spot on)_ Same and my 1-2 shift feels hard to me so I baby it...going to unload it soon... stay away from escapes they are a mess.
But it doesn't slip just 1-2 hard shifts some times keeps getting me from A to B I'm very scared it breaking and being a money pit.
I've done alot of oil analysis on my super duties, trans and engine, I've learned two things, the trans interval on a 6r140 is really only about 50k on factory fluid. Valvoline multi atf red label max life in the maroon bottle is the best fluid to use as it is the only dex 6 enhanced and mercon lv compatible fluid you can get thats not oem, on the half tons and super duty trucks in our fleet, trans is 50k interval and 30k interval respectively. I don't trust Ford fluids, I think they are not as good as some people say. I've done early fluid changes and even at a longer interval, it still looks good.
its "a lot" not alot Jesus people learn to spell.
@@darkshadowsx5949 glad you chastise my voice to text.
😂😂😂@@blackopsrocks
Ford explorer FWD , and Chevrolet Equinox , SAME TRANSMISSION , joint venture between Ford and General Motors.
The 6t45 and 6t70 is shared. Yes. The early vues and equinoxes had the aisin af-33 trans. Made by toyo supplier.
I use a modified garden sprayer . ( chemical resistant ) 4 liter . As a fluid pump . $ 14.00 at Lowe's , Home depot.
Has lasted for 10 years .
When i filled mine i took out the plastic plug in the vent and my long transmission funnel fits perfectly right in the rubber hose and holds it. Super easy to dump a few bottles of fluid in.
Yup i got the long green funnel can change the fluid in my fusion in about ten mins dont jack it up nothing easy job but 50$ a change im on 2nd drain in a week gunna do a 3rd to be sure just bought the car
The recommended service is a triple drain and fill. Capacity is 4 liters. 4.27 quarts. I use the vent hole. A good funnel with vinyl tube. I put PTFE tape on the drain plug thread.
Well you are on it
Whatbinrecomend is by every 30k and no need to triple fill anything
There is a reason why my recommendations work better than the factory bud
I recently bought a 2016 Ford Escape with the 6F35 @ 77k miles. It shifted hard at speed when it downshifted to accelerate. I followed the procedure by FordTechMakuloco. After draining I added 4 quarts and took it out for a spin to warm up the transmission(which definitely shifted smoother especially the downshift. Removed the tire/wheel and leveled the car then removed the side plug expecting a little fluid to drain out but didn't get any. I added an additional half a quart but didn't still didn't get any real drainage. I stopped at that point. The car is shifting smoothly. Old fluid was nasty. May do another flush at next oil change. Which I do every 5k.
The video I didn't know I needed...!!! As always, Ford Boss coming in Clutch. Thank you Sir
Thanks for the video it’s a life saver I tried filling from the vent on the top side and you’re right it was a mess with only a 1/4 cup of fluid. I have a 2019 Edge it has no dip stick but has the same trans you showed. Thanks again brother!
Yvw
We bought a 2018 Escape Titanium with 30k and I plan to do this very soon. I hope I don't have issues with the tranny over the years if I do it every 30k. Thanks for making this video. Looks easy enough, but wish I had a lift! I hate working from my back all the time.
You must do 2 to 3 drain and fills if you do it every 30,009 miles. I just do it every 10,000 miles, it takes 10 minutes. I fill through the vent hole and add 4-1/8 quarts.
@@CreatingExcellence Vent hole meaning the top of the engine area where the cap is right? So you don't bother to open the side overflow bolt? And that's the exact amount you need to fill it with? Just making sure I understand. 👍🏼
@@Trekopolisjust saw your comment. Yes, I fill it through the vent cap opening in the engine bay, I buy the gallon jug so it’s easy to pour in with a funnel. I’ve done the leveling procedure with the side bolt off while it’s running once. I change it so often I just drain it and fill it with 4-1/8 quarts. I know that’s not the most accurate method but my trans is original and I’ve done 12 drain and fills since I bought it with 94,000 miles and I have 165,000 miles now.
@@CreatingExcellence Thank you, I appreciate the response. I want to keep ahead of the transmission and plan to do this before winter. Have you ever considered adding a few ounces of Marvel Mystery Oil (MMO) to it? I've used it in practically everything I've ever owned. But, some people say never to use it and I never see any supporting evidence why you shouldn't.
Great info. I have done a drain and fill at every 30000 miles or less. Mine has been black. 85000 mi. I have changed it 3 times recently. To get new fluid.
Ever pulled a 17mm Honda Fill plug they pop like a 9mil
The last time I change the transmission fluid in my 2017 Ford escape SE, the green little cap on the vent plug with the constant tension spring flew off somewhere in my engine bay. I finally found it about two hours later. When I change my transmission fluid this weekend, I’m going to do it the way you do by filling it through the check plug hole.
You can do it either way
They did my Trans fluid on my 16 MKZ. Only got like 6.5 quarts out I guess. It's also a 13 hour Job to replace a $70 filter apparently so told them not to worry about it.
6F35, 6F50 and 6F55 (also the new 8 speeds) are all internal filters. Must remove transmission and split case to change filter which is why it's important to make sure you maintain your fluid to avoid plugging up your filter. If you still have warranty by all means but if you're out of warranty and don't want your transmission blowing up, change that fluid yourself. Simple drain and fill, you could also fill it slowly from up top, the vent hole. It's a vent so you have to make sure you don't go faster than air escaping or you'll make a mess.
If you keep changing the oil the filter is not an issue. Most transmissions have "screen" not a filter. If the transmission is wearing as it should the wear particles are so fine they flow through the screen - so it really shouldn't be catching anything. If your transmission has an issue and the clutches throw a few "chunks" that get caught in the screen it still shouldn't be an issue - plenty of screen area for the fluid to flow through and the chunks don't get circulated to clog a passage. If the transmission clutches throw enough "chunks" to clog the screen your transmission was toast anyway. Changing the screen wasn't going to fix the clutches that are failing.
Thanks I have a trans job on my Ford.
This was the most helpful video I've been able to find on this topic. Thanks!
Glad it was helpful!
You should start adding cetain tags in the comments or something so when someone says "I need to change the fluid in my '16 escape (or whatever year model/combination this could apply to), I'm going to see if there's a video" they can actually find your video. 98% of people have no clue what their transmission code is. Thanks for the advice!
Man!! I tried loosening that H10 but it just wouldn't budge. I'll try some Liquid wrench on it tomorrow!
They are tight, you have to give it hell
I have had 4 Saturn vues and 5 equinoxes. Done a bunch of fluid exchanges. Toyo trans are solid. But have dirty fluid.
I am not sure how accurate this is but I believe somewhere I read that longer service intervals look cleaner to the EPA and have less impact.
Ive always thought that, I have no idea if it’s true or not.
Nothing to do with the EPA. Its marketing. Keep the cost of ownership to a minimum and use that to advertise how cheap it is to own a certain vehicle. They usually only advertise the first 100K of ownership. Neglecting maintenance in the first 100K takes thousands if not 100s of thousands of miles off the major powertrain components (engine, transmission, drive axles). The manufacturer only wants to get the car out of warranty as cheaply as they can. If the car drops dead at 100,000 miles they want to sell you a new one.
Do you guys not have bg machine that flushes it? You get a lot more fluid that way instead of doing a drain and fill
This is what the customer wanted
I currently had my 2017 escape worked on, and I paid 7250 $. Now my transmission is slipping horribly from 1 to 2......
First I wanna say thanks for the advice on a previous video I commented about a power steering issue with a 17 F150. It was water intrusion in the connectors. His power steering works now.
I also wanna add in relation to this video that my wife and I have a 17 honda fit with the CVT and I change the fluid every 30k miles. Since its a CVT. I dont want to risk it with that unit and I know what they cost. I will tell anyone with a CVT to have their fluid changed every 30k miles. Some people say they can go 70 80 or 100k and I'm like no not even in a standard automatic...
Thank You for coming back and letting me know it all worked out
I help lots of people and they never come and check back in when it works out....but it makes me so happy when they do let me know what works
@@FordBossMe no problem. As a fellow technician I appreciate the help and wanted to let you know so you know you gave good advice. I sometimes wonder if the advice I give to others is what worked for them if they don't let me know later on.
Question: fill until overflows drain while engine running or off?
I ask because I had engine running with fluid just at overfill line, then turned off engine (had not plugged yet) and fluid started coming out overflow.. so rushed to put cap back in.
I cringe at my Briggs and Stratton lawn mower that says "Never drain! Only fill!".
I cry at "Lifetime fluid" :(
Translation: Throw it Away, Buy Another!
Seriously I have no clue why people buy anything with a Briggs anymore just pay for the Honda powered mower.
They no longer make the solid flathead they use to have those engines lasted forever.
@@bryanmartinez6600 Honda will likely be next purchase, however the Toro brand equipment has treated us very very VERY well, it just came with the Briggs. I change the oil often instead hahaha!
What? Are you being serious?
I mow with vintage/antique Lawn-Boys. The oil gets changed with every tank of fuel!😂
Can I do multiple drain and fills at one time to change out more of the fluid?
Glad theres still good Ford Techs out there…
I change my Escape trans fluid every 10,000 miles with Castrol Transmax LV and it’s red from one change to the next. It was not when I used Motocraft LV.
i can remember dex mercon II ans III
I just dropped/ filled my Trans fluid in my 17 Fusion with Amzoil ATF and I got a 3mpg boost in economy.
I did a drain an fill on my mazda skyactiv transmission at 60k and it was almost black Did it again 20k later and only then did the fluid look new. Funny thing is Mazda says the transmission fluid is "lifetime" 🙄 I wouldn't dare test that theory
Lifetime =means when your trans fails.
Exactly every fluid lasts until the unit fails if you never service
Apparently the life expectancy is your choice nowadays.
I can do this on a 2018 Ford escape?
My GFS escape has 35k miles and when it gets to 20-25mph it feels like a constant jerk hesitation and once you go over 35-40mph it goes smooth . Is that converter shudder? Read on some forums changing the fluid got rid of it. She's a yr past her 5 yr warranty
Lifetime fluid? Lol 👌
I know right? Totally irresponsible of Ford.
It is lifetime fluid... it is just that it's life is less than 50K miles.
@@JT-lq4yd exactly.
My 2005 Escape and 2010 fusion get serviced yearly. The fluid is always red. The escape has 210,000 the fusion 257,000 miles.
I had an exchange on Chevy Equinox and fluid looked like this. 40,000 miles. SMH
Dex 6 will do that at 15 k totally fine change it at 60 k the transmission will last 200k
If you tow change it every 30k
Whenever there is a problem they just change the definition of what’s normal to whatever’s needed.
Problem solved 🤷♂️
Gee, how I wish you were local. My 2015 Ford escape is having some issues. And yes I was told on this car when I got it that all fluids where changed I asked about the tranny fluid and the salesperson said it wouldn't need changed til 150,000 miles, now I have just.a little over 100,000 miles and boom issues. I'm so upset and irritated. I would of serviced this a long time ago if I knew, think they just wanted it off there lot.
Thanks for the video. I recently picked up a 2014 Escape Titanium @ 84,200 miles. Visually, the engine compartment and overall package was very clean. I had to do a few costly repair to pass Maryland's notoriously hard inspection process(which I feel is a racket, but I digress...). It passed in Virginia, btw. Had to replace the combined muffler/catalytic converter assembly which was an all one piece item. The local independent shop I usually use did a transmission fluid change. The fluid looked exactly as you have shown here. His tech said it may be going up, but I feel that it may be a normal look on these transmissions after seeing your vid and others like it. Added Lucas transmission conditioner after change and no problems shifting. consistent more pronounced shit into second, but not really out of character with other cars I've owned. will possibly change fluid again after 10,000 miles. I feel the trick with this Escape is to religiously maintain it. Any suggestions otherwise? Thank you.
That's not good, I noticed these trans's are hard on fluid, usually around 30K the fluid starts to change color. I always changed the fluid in my flex every 30-40K and the fluid looks brand new and still shifts like it did I I bought it off the lot. It's at 265,000.
I have a 15 explorer with this similar design so you just drain and fill with the same amount that came out? I want to do it myself but I don’t wanna mess it up
@@timschultes6467 yes it's just a drain and fill.
Wechselst du den oil Filter im Getriebe nicht ? Sitzt der so das man das Getriebe ausbauen und öffnen muss ?
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I'm not sure of not but take lose the return line off the cooler and use the transmission pump to "flush" the old fluid out. Takes about 3 gallons to complete.
They don't have services for the customer to allow that done
I bought a mityvac fluid extractor filler tool that holds 1.5 qts of fluid for filling trans and diffs.
I did my 2011 Fusion awhile back, I was expecting it to be black like this fluid but to my surprise it was red.
The wife just bought a 2020 ecosport 2.0L 4wd . It looks like the same transmission . So LV fluid also ? I change the oils on our cars . Saves a ton of money .
Why don't you fill it from the vent port on top, easier and less messy
Very informative video. This transmission doesn't have the fill cap on top of the transmission beside the air box filter? Thank you
It has a vent they can be used as a fill Port but it's not a fill port and it's got a rubber cap on top of it
11mm ? I don't think I have seen too many uses for that socket. Maybe 7/16", on my lawn tractor.
7/16 will work
I've done my transit 3 times at 60k this long fluid exchanges are bunk. Mine was starting to act funny here and there. The fluid exchanges has made it run like new. Wished I'd have started at 30k. I will continue to do it every other oil change until it looks normal. The first fluid I got out was terrible. No way would it have lasted over 100K
Correct me if I’m wrong but the newer Ford/Lincoln transmissions essentially have a thermostat inside of the transmission so it cooks the fluid until it gets up to temp and is at the proper viscosity so that it provides a better and smoother shift
Something like that
What about a fluid exchange through the cooler lines and exchange 100%. If possible?
I did my Traverse at 50 thousand i am about to hit a hundred and i will do it again..
I change my tranny fluid every 3rd oil change. If you stick to that rule your tranny will last waaaaaay longer. I'm not talking 10k oci's either. Your living in delusion if you think those kind of oci's are good.
Hey thanks for this video. I wish I'd found it sooner after me busting up my air box to get to the top plug! But I have. A question, how can you put let's say 4 qts in that side hole cold, and expected it to not be spilling out a bunch once it's warm and expanded? Thanks for the video again and hopefully an answer that will educate me further on the process.
Ford boss I have 2014 fusion and every 30000 and never gets that black I'm gonna keep changing mine the way I been never had any problems my is a 6f35 only problem I get sometimes is down shifting on hill it down shifting into a to low of a gear then the speed car is going but besides that shifting is great 👍
Mom has an 11 Malibu with the 6T40E which is basically a 6F35 and after about 36k miles the fluid is dark. I take it to the dealer and let them do a BG trans flush
I've heard the color of the fluid is just staining that comes from the type of clutch plate material they are using these days. Doesn't necessarily mean the fluid is bad.
Indeed
Way to go husky sockets!!! xD home depot for the win
I done this and PTU. The rear diff has different views on refilling it. One is measure what you suck out. Two is fill to what looks like a level plug and three fill to 4 mm below level plug. I like to know what Ford’s would do. Let’s for example the half axle drive shaft oil seal leaks. The oil seal is replaced so what level would I fill up to?
Hello my name is Alejandra and I need your help please, I am very worried because 3 months ago I bought a Ford Escape 2014 with 160 thousand miles I made a big mistake by not asking about the oil change in the transmission and now that I took it to the mechanic he told me that the oil looked very black with small particles that apparently the car had not had maintenance and that if I changed the oil in its entirety my transmission would go bad, he recommends me to change it little by little every 15 thousand miles, what do you recommend me I am not having a good time because I know that if it were to go bad the investment would be too high, watching your video in detail I can see that the oil that is drained from that vehicle is blacker than mine then I do not know what to do: ( ANY HELP PLEASE, I THANK YOU FROM THE BOTTOM OF MY HEART.
The gentleman is correct changing the oil a little bit at a time right now is going to be your best bet because if you change too much at one time it may mess up the transmission worse, unfortunately it may already be messed up and you're just on borrowed time
@@FordBossMe And how could I know if this oil isn't really changed? Because in your video you commented that the color is not necessarily a reliable indicative because now these boxes are making the color turn black quickly, and as I saw in your video the oil you removed from that Ford was blacker than mine, currently my car has not had any transmission problem
What’s your opinion on the 5R55 series of transmissions? They have a bad reputation, but Ford put them in a lot of vehicles. Is it just a matter of proper maintenance?
Maintenance yes and they do have BAND issues...sometimes they snap and or crack on the verge of snapping and give an intermittent solenoid code
Nice work. I have '16 explorer 2.3l ecoboost with 6f35 transmission that I just got. Shifts fine but when i step on it little harder and it downshifts from 6th to 5th gear, i can feel a thud(not sure how to explain it) I feel like it might be due to not enough fluid in transmission. It has 67k miles but i dont know when was teansmission serviced last since I just got the car. Also at higher speed and lowee torque, I can see the change in rpms up and down +/- 200rpms Any suggestions? Car is still under full 60 day warranty but I am not too confident that the this auto dilership(Autonation chrysler) knows what they are doing since the are not Ford specific. I am in Phoenix, AZ so if you have any good shop to suggest let me know.
Hey this is the guy with the 03 sliver cobra great videos.
Beautiful Ride You Have
@@FordBossMe I got some things that need to be fixed and some upgradable parts also you ever want to use it for your vids let Me know.
Good Tips, but change an alternator on an older model 4WD Escape and you'll find out what life's about, if i remember i had to pull the taillights to get that mother done......
Try changing a water pump on a 2010 Ford Edge with a 3.5 L
Try getting to the power steering pump bolts while you're doing it
Brother we've all got crazy stories like that
@@FordBossMe Mwahahaha.....i know it!!!!
@@FordBossMeBrother? guess Alice Cooper Molly Hatchett are busted....
Momma's 1995 red ranger with 3.0l 25 years old with 237k ive serviced the trans every 35k with filter i sucked out 3 qts with a power sucker once a year and replace just as a safety PM. After the orginal service. Using walmarts supertech warren oil co. Mercon trans fluid 4 qt jug for 14 bucks. Like you said fluid is cheap. The trans is original. I worder if ill get 300k out of the trans?
You will indeed
I’m at 221K on my ‘98 Ranger and the tranny has only been serviced three times in the last 23 years
What I did to get the fluid nice and clean in my 2011 Escape is to change it out once, drive it a thousand miles, and then change it again. So that way, the new fluid can work out all of the dirt and grime from the cracks and crevasses of the transmission. On my second change, the fluid came out really dark (almost black). Once I put the new fluid in, it's never changed color, and I'm already 2,000 miles in. If you change the fluid 2-3 times immediately, you will never get it clean. It takes time and patience with these transmissions. I must add that the older design 6F35 is MUCH easier to work on compared to the newer ones.
But how did u check if it's full, I have a 2012 ford escape and it's damn hard to read the dipstick. The fluid splashes different each time I take it out. Can you tell me how to check it properly? Thanks. I believe a drain and fill is 4.5 quarts right? Did u use motorcraft mercon LV or other?
@@justlg3359 What I do (I don't recommend this if your emergency brake doesn't work), let your engine warm up for 3 minutes. Put your E-brake on, and put your car into drive. Hop out and check it twice. You will have an accurate hot reading. Also, I used Valvoline ATF full synthetic fluid, which has been tested to work in Mercon IV transmissions. It can take anywhere from 5 1/2, to 6 quarts. Depending on how long you let the old fluid drain out.
@@cindyr7407 u sure on drive you check it? Not in park? Also how long did u drive it to get it hot?
Fluid is cheap transmissions are expen$ive.
It’s not cheap, but far cheaper than a transmission.
@@a3300000 no more than 10 a quart.
$13.99 a quart at ford dealerships here in SoCal
Can you tell me a few different oils brands even a specific bottle I should use. I shop at Napa, O'Reilly and Auto zone. I would like your input sir
@@liveandlearnwithmikefor the 6f35, Valvolines Dex/Merc transmission fluid is really good it's a blue bottle
A little warm it supposed to be like 200 degrees due to the fact that ATF expands.
And here I thought going over 80k is bad. Oh lord. If manufacturers truly want the transmission to go that long they need to use some extremely good synthetic oil and a huge radiator cooler and maybe make the sump hold a few quarts more.
No manufacturer wants the car to last forever - they have new cars to sell.
The extended engine oil and transmission services are the result of marketing - not from engineering research. To sell the car marketing needs "low" annual cost of ownership numbers. You get that by extending the service intervals. If you only have 9 oil changes in 100K and no transmission service the cost of ownership is very low. If you notice the cost of ownership numbers usually end at 100K. Crappy maintenance the first 100k shortens the life of the car by thousands if not 100s of thousands of miles. The manufacturer doesn't care because at that point they are out of warranty. Anyone that thinks 10K is a "good" engine oil change interval isn't looking at the oil coming out of these vehicles. The most I would consider is 5K. FWD transmissions need the fluid changed every 30K, most RWD transmissions (much more fluid) need to be changed at 50K - or more often if its being used to tow or haul. Now that most seem to have drain plugs changing the transmission oil is mush easier than it had been in the past. The biggest issue now is getting the right amount of fluid back in since many don't include a dipstick.
this looks the same as my ford transit connect which i think is the same as a fusion I filled it from the top, was annoying to have to take the lift up and down. seems like its was reccomended to do it while it was running and to go through reverse, neutral, forward, iirc the tranny dumps quite a bit o fluid back into the resevoir when car is off.
Yeah I just don't do it that way I want to see what's going on while I'm doing it
I feel like they are running the transmission fluid to hot to turn it black like that. Toyota in the RAV4 with a cooler does the same thing at 40,000 miles. I don't know what they are doing but those transmissions do fail earlier than normal
My wifes 15 Corolla gets trans flushes ever 30k fuck this car!
Can you just measure how much fluid came out and put that amount back in?
Yes
O.K. Ford Boss me. I have a 2017 Ford Titanium AWD 2.0 turbocharged engine I am at 30,000 miles. What do I need to do maintenance wise to prevent my Escape from costing me big money down the road? Please help! So far nothing has gone wrong. Shawn.
Spark plugs flush the PTU and do the trans.
@@FordBossMe Thanks Ford Boss me. For the heads up! Your are a real true Man. I know you don't have to answer my RUclips questions. That's how you get subscriber's. I really appreciate you Dude. Shawn.
@@shawnbeck2303 go to the most important things that I wouldn't focus on because the eagle boost engines really go through spark plugs quick and people don't realize that
@@shawnbeck2303 the PTU gets baked behind the engine and Ford puts out a very poor maintenance schedule for it
@@FordBossMe My friend took his 2018 Titanium Escape AWD 2.0 turbo to the Ford Dealership today. His engine light came on. The code said that there was water detected inside the engine. The dealership said they will have to go for a 5 hour test to find where the water leak is. He wanted to know if the engine oil and the water are mixed together or the water burned threw the cylinders and if the engine is done for. He has the best warranty he can buy through Ford. What does he do if that water has mixed with oil. Where does he go with Ford now. A new engine or fixed under his warranty? He has 35,500 miles on his Escape. No other issues so far. I told him what you said about his PTU, Trans flushing and plugs. He's scared to death that Ford will screw him over. Thanks Ford Boss me. Shawn.
That transmission takes about 9L of oil. When you pull the plug only about 4L of oil comes out. The torque converter holds half the oil. I've owned many vehicles and never had to change the transmission oil until recently. The 6F35 transmission has a huge filter and donut magnet to clean metal out of the fluid. The Transmission Control Module is not mounted on or in the transmission. Ford provides almost zero information to the home mechanic. FORD loves Ducking its customers.
it looks like someone poured motor oil in it...
mine was a dark red /light brown at 112k not burnt graphite black. that's pretty concerning.
of course mine was changed or at least checked frequently by the original owner.
Manufacturer also doesn't tell you that you need a oil catch can to collect the oil blow by that is building up .
I changed my Escapes 6F35 every 15,000 miles. Always redish in color. Shop note if you do not use Mercon “LV” kiss your transmission goodbye.
Do you do work on the side.I live in Illinois too.
I wish I had more time to do work on the side, RUclips and my regular job has consumed me and I haven't been able to do any side work in the last 3 months
I have a fill port on top of the trans just under the radiator hose
Send me a picture
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Yeah, Brian from FordTechMakuloco says the same thing about Mercon LV. I'm not a fan of Mercon LV.
I flush my Fusion with a trans flush machine. I pull the lines off the thermostat block and hook the cooler flush lines from the machine directly to the pipes coming out of the transmission. It works phenomenally. Hook it up and do a 12 or 16 quart flush and it gets real red. After I hook everything is hooked back up I pull the level plug and adjust accordingly. Usually its spot on and I don't have to add any or let any drain out.
There's a difference between a flush and a drain and fill
this is a drain and fill
never flush
@@richsweeney1115 There's nothing wrong with using a fluid exchanger to change out the fluid. It pushes old fluid out of one cooler line and puts the same amount of fluid back into the return line. I think that myth of not using a flush machine comes from people who have never serviced their fluid. Their transmission has problems and they get a flush to try to resolve said issue, and no amount of fluid or additives will fix it. It's already mechanically damaged and they they blame the flush for making it worse when it was already doomed from the start.
@@hewgull flushing an older tranny can clog the valve body, and passages. all you have to do is a drain and fill , maybe do it twice since you won't get all the fluid at once. it's still cheaper than a flush and you're not clogging anything. people need to learn to work on their own cars and trucks.
@@richsweeney1115 They do, as you said "An older transmission" AKA one that has never been serviced. I have fleet trucks with 250K plus on them that have had a trans flush every 30K with no issues. The problem is people don't service them.
How many miles between changes?
30k - 40k is optimal honestly but no more than 50k
i thought the 6F35 service process was "pull transmission and rebuild" :) What did they change between 2010-2012 and 2013+? Every 2013+ Escape including my own has had a rebuild needed, mine was at 50k miles
I do mine three times to get it clean in my fusion
Would like to see any tips or tricks for a '19+ Edge transfer case drain and refill - from my understanding Ford decided to remove the drain plug/port - have to suck out the fluid from the fill port...
Not looking forward to it...
Well I don't work at the dealer anymore I am a general manager at an independent shop so I work on everything now so you more than likely won't get that anytime soon