Its nice to see nothing has changed. I have a 2022 Edge. 50k miles. Shifts hard. And sport mode? Forget about it, the tranmsission cant seem to decide what gear ot wants. And no paddle shifters....so you're at the mercy of the tranny. Great engineering!!
I have the same car just hit 24k miles on it. I also can’t stand the hard shifts. Although it shifts a lot better in sport mode from what I have found.
There is no excuse for not changing the fluid every 30,000 miles on a vehicle with a drain plug. I just bought a year old F150 with 10,500 miles on it and the 10R80 tranny in it. Will have about 15,000 on it early summer, and i will be dropping the pan changing the fluid and filter. I wish i would have done it when i goit the truck, but winter was coming on, and life was crazy busy then. I had a 2014 chrysler minivan that i changed the tranny fluid and filter in every 30,000 miles. Sold it with 170,000 miles and the original tranny was still working great.
Good video, very informative as I have a 2010 Edge that was having all the same symptoms and am hoping that all mine needs is the same service. Thx a lot.
On the old CD4E Escape, I used to remove the hose feeding the front cooker and let the engine pump out the fluid. I'd pump out a few quarts at a time, shut the engine off, add the amount I removed, and repeat until the fluid ran clear (12 quarts to replace the 10 it held. and would be able to swap out all the fluid at one shot. EDIT: Evs don't have transmissions..
There are so many issues with the 8F35 transmission. I bought a 2019 Edge SEL with 32k miles, now sitting at 38k miles and there bucking and jerking when going up and down between 25m/h -40m/h. Dealer said it needs a new torque converter and valve body. Covered under warranty. They will start working on it next week and I hope it fixes the issue. I've read so many different takes online, but everyone recommends you change fluids every 30k miles to have it run longer.
@@BigBensCarsAndCycles I got the Edge back 4 days ago. Here are my observations: - The steering isn't as straight as it was before. I feel the left wheel it's slightly angled towards the left. When going straight on the highway or street the car slowly leans to the left. -The car engages into D a little hard. I can hear and feel the clunk. It feels like more torquey and you can feel the car pulling forward as soon as placed in Drive (obviously with foot on the brake). It wasn't like that before. The transmission shifts perfectly now... Except, when downshifting from 6 to 5. It slams very hard. I fear it might be a little more than just new valve body, torque converter and fluid. I’m bringing it to the dealership next week. I’ll see what they find.
How much oil did you used every flush? The whole 5 qts? or how? Can you elaborate on this? HOw often would yo recommend to do an oil "change"? Thanks for sharing!
Our 2020 Edge ST has 33,000 miles on it and having the transmission fluid change soon. We noticed when it shits from a stop pulling out there is faint buzzing sound like a rattling metal pan. Only does it through several upshifts.
My 2020 bought brand new, had a rattle at 7k, told the dealer after researching it sounds like it could be the muffler is defective. They say not likely bring it in. They replaced muffler after diagnosing, lol. Yeah that was it.
Hi, the filter in inaccessable without teardown. I would drain and fill the fluid 3 times, drive in between each drain, and add lubegard shudderfix on the final fill, go drive it like a racecar for a bit and it should be good as new
HEY BIG BEN... Nice Video.. We have a 2018 FORD EDGE 3.5 V6 Titanium NON TURBO. I have Drained and Filled our 6F (55) I think it is probably 7/8 Times. It's doing Fine, However I have a question for ya??? If I have been doing this Drain N Fill service to our EDGE, should I, or would I want to use the BG Cleaner and Treatment and or the Lube Guard Shudder Fix stuff at this point? (Car has 35K) On the ODO right now. Would this be a WISE Thing to do at this Point / Milage?? Or Just continue to Drain N Fill the Tranny and Not use any Cleaners at this Point in it's LIFE??? Thanks. Great Video, And that was UGLY Stuff coming outta that Tranny.....
If you can afford to do this, great! But now that Amsoil's come out eith their new ATF ULV, id just do 4 tranny changes within 10K miles with that stuff. More cost efficient.
No, you don't have to reset the transmission after a fluid service. If you're servicing it to attempt fixing firm shifts, you can reset the transmission adaptive tables using Forscan on a laptop
Would the shudder while accelerating to 35ish mph be what the TSB from 2021 is about? My wife's 19 Edge has a nasty shudder or rough shift when we hit about 20-25mph and my research brought up a TSB saying it may be a software problem and that reconfiguring the PCM and transmission solenoids might fix it. Or is that what you did when you said you were resetting the transmission tables?
If there were no problems with 8F35 transmission but you hadn't changed the transmission oil for 60k, the 3 time change and drain is a better way to go than a flush or a 1 drain and fill?
If the pump is whining do you think the transmission is too far gone to even attempt a flush? I’m trying to get my sisters fusion temporarily driving until I source a used trans.
@ it kicks, there’s no power, and won’t go into reverse sometimes. Fluid is at correct level only does it once it gets to operating temperature. Also appreciate your videos they’re the best.
I just love how some people just drive it & never pop the hood so much as once. THEN, the transmission starts acting up. DUH. Just stuff a new trans in it and send her on her way. !
@@Zardif They want the tranny to fail at a certain point so that they can make thousands replacing it. I drive a low miles 2016 Ford and replaced my tranny fluid at about 25K.
I have a 2017 Ford Edge Titanium 4-CL turbo. Recently, 3 different times in the last 3 weeks, while driving/accelerating driving 40 MPH or below, it felt like my transmission "clunked" or made a "thud" sound, then resumed "normal" driving. My AC was running full blast during these instances (idk if that's important) I have roughly 114K miles, and have a full warranty on it, and have maintained maintenance at every interval. What could be causing this? I have an appointment to have it looked at at the end of this month (7/24/24) but I'd like to have some additional info before I take it in because, no offense, but a lot of women aren't taken seriously in the automotive world, at least in my experience
I have been having a similar issue with a 2019 Edge Titanium i just bought recently. It wouldn't go in reverse at one point. But it all started when it told me Park unavailable on my dash. The dealership said I have internal damage and need a new one. Do you think I should get a second opinion or try cleansing first?
A second opinion wouldn't hurt. Sometimes the turbine speed sensor can cause issues like that. But I do have an 8f35 teardown video with a similar problem to yours and it was bad
Are you very familiar with the 8F57 trans? I know it, the 8F24 and the 8F35 are all coming out of the same place and very similar. Since i’m looking to massivly excede the torque rating for my 8F35 on my 2020 Escape 2.0t, is there any possible application of the 8F57 into the escape? Do they share mounting and or engine connections (This would be going into a 2.3t corsair engine). If not is there anything in theory to beef up the 8F35?
The 8f57 is a lot different than the others. Its pretty much a completely different transmission. Different mounting, different bell housing bolt pattern. It's bolt pattern matches up to the v6 engines. The 8f35 isn't the most durable transmission - but should hold up a while in your situation. You can wait until it fails, then tear it down and see what failed - and see if theres billet parts for that application
HI, I have a question, I have Ford Focus (EU market) 2.0 150HP with the same 8th speed gearbox. I have small issue that when I drive 80km/h on Normal drive mode in 8th gear, the car starts to vibrate for 2-3 seconds becouse its on low RPM (1200-1500) can the oilchange fix that or should I open Hidroblock to change solenoid valves or something. NO ERRORS on diagnostics and local Ford Service can't find the problem. the trembling of vehicle only noticeable at lower speeds/RPM's. when driveing in SPORT mode its better and gear changeing is normal (usualy gear changeing on normal mode is slightly bumpy)
Yes I think a fluid service can help. That sounds like a torque converter shudder. The friction modifier (shudder fix) plus new fluid should get rid of the issue
I wouldn’t have done all that, with high mileage at least. Ford says NOT to add additives too. I have Ford edge SEL 6F35 transmission. I have 72,000 miles and I’m leery on flushing my transmission.
On my 2017 Ford Edge, I drained and filled the transmission fluid 3 times at 30k miles. I watched several videos showing how it's done, not hard. Be careful with the drain plug, there is a gap between the head on bolt and transmission case body. You don't want to over torque it, could crack aluminum transmission body it screws into.
I like your videos! I have a 2012 fusion 6F35 150K, with 1 into 2 and 2 into 3 shift delay when cold. shop quoted me 5,800 for a rebuild. It looks like I can find a reman one for about 2500. I’m wondering what would you do? swap it out? if so does it have to be re programed?
Hi. Thanks for watching. I think a new valve body and solenoid body could fix your problem. But I haven't diagnosed it in person. Yes, you'll want to program the strategy into the pcm from the new transmission.
@@BigBensCarsAndCycles thanks Ben. I guess at 150 thousand is it really worth trying to patch up something that isn’t expected to last much longer ? from talking to guys and looking on forums 150-160K seems to be the life expectancy
Automatic transmissions have always baffled me! Ive always just considered them magical boxes that just worked. Lol! What i honestly dont understand is how the clutch packs work at all considering they are bathed in lightweight lubrication oil!? If you lubricated a standard transmission clutch it would naturally slip. Why doesn't an automatic transmission slip if its working correctly????
What about a complete 100% fluid flush w/BG instead of 5-6 drain n fills and too long of labor? Waste of the customers & your time! Gotta call customer back & tell him he needs a trans now?!?!?!
00:39 my guess is no. 130k miles, it probably needs a filter change. The fluid is dirty but clean fluid will not go through a dirty filter. You have said BG twice. 4:00 I’m out. I refuse to watch any video where a person put BG in a car.
"There is a plug here that says DO NOT REMOVE, go ahead and remove it", best line
Ayyy! You got that right man haha
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I give you credit for making these videos, great content and advice coming from a fellow mechanic!
Its nice to see nothing has changed. I have a 2022 Edge. 50k miles. Shifts hard.
And sport mode? Forget about it, the tranmsission cant seem to decide what gear ot wants.
And no paddle shifters....so you're at the mercy of the tranny.
Great engineering!!
I have the same car just hit 24k miles on it. I also can’t stand the hard shifts. Although it shifts a lot better in sport mode from what I have found.
I have a 2022 Edge ST zero problems, zero complaints. Runs fine, shifts fine.
Clear adaptive tables is #1 help.for shift issues
There is no excuse for not changing the fluid every 30,000 miles on a vehicle with a drain plug. I just bought a year old F150 with 10,500 miles on it and the 10R80 tranny in it. Will have about 15,000 on it early summer, and i will be dropping the pan changing the fluid and filter. I wish i would have done it when i goit the truck, but winter was coming on, and life was crazy busy then. I had a 2014 chrysler minivan that i changed the tranny fluid and filter in every 30,000 miles. Sold it with 170,000 miles and the original tranny was still working great.
Great video clip. Thank you for sharing
You're very welcome!
Good video, very informative as I have a 2010 Edge that was having all the same symptoms and am hoping that all mine needs is the same service. Thx a lot.
On the old CD4E Escape, I used to remove the hose feeding the front cooker and let the engine pump out the fluid. I'd pump out a few quarts at a time, shut the engine off, add the amount I removed, and repeat until the fluid ran clear (12 quarts to replace the 10 it held. and would be able to swap out all the fluid at one shot. EDIT: Evs don't have transmissions..
There are so many issues with the 8F35 transmission. I bought a 2019 Edge SEL with 32k miles, now sitting at 38k miles and there bucking and jerking when going up and down between 25m/h -40m/h. Dealer said it needs a new torque converter and valve body. Covered under warranty. They will start working on it next week and I hope it fixes the issue. I've read so many different takes online, but everyone recommends you change fluids every 30k miles to have it run longer.
Yes 30k miles. And that repair they're doing should fix it
@@BigBensCarsAndCycles I got the Edge back 4 days ago. Here are my observations:
- The steering isn't as straight as it was before. I feel the left wheel it's slightly angled towards the left. When going straight on the highway or street the car slowly leans to the left.
-The car engages into D a little hard. I can hear and feel the clunk. It feels like more torquey and you can feel the car pulling forward as soon as placed in Drive (obviously with foot on the brake). It wasn't like that before.
The transmission shifts perfectly now... Except, when downshifting from 6 to 5. It slams very hard. I fear it might be a little more than just new valve body, torque converter and fluid.
I’m bringing it to the dealership next week. I’ll see what they find.
probably it only needs oil change
@@emarte yeah I'd take it back. Sounds like they need to put it back on the alignment machine. Well see about the other stuff
How much oil did you used every flush? The whole 5 qts? or how? Can you elaborate on this? HOw often would yo recommend to do an oil "change"? Thanks for sharing!
Hi, 5 each time. Fill spec is 4.2. I'd do it every 30k
@@BigBensCarsAndCycles Thank you for sharing you knowledge and experience. I did my '21 ST @ 33K but got 6.5 qts. out and that's what I put back in.
Our 2020 Edge ST has 33,000 miles on it and having the transmission fluid change soon. We noticed when it shits from a stop pulling out there is faint buzzing sound like a rattling metal pan. Only does it through several upshifts.
My 2020 bought brand new, had a rattle at 7k, told the dealer after researching it sounds like it could be the muffler is defective. They say not likely bring it in. They replaced muffler after diagnosing, lol. Yeah that was it.
I have a 2020 edge SEL , bad torque converter shudder, I’m gonna replace the filter and torque converter this weekend, I hope it works!!
Hi, the filter in inaccessable without teardown. I would drain and fill the fluid 3 times, drive in between each drain, and add lubegard shudderfix on the final fill, go drive it like a racecar for a bit and it should be good as new
software update/recall. that'll (probably) fix the hard shifting
My girls 2018 Explorer w/80k doing the same thing, found the same burnt fluid.
HEY BIG BEN... Nice Video.. We have a 2018 FORD EDGE 3.5 V6 Titanium NON TURBO. I have Drained and Filled our 6F (55) I think it is probably 7/8 Times. It's doing Fine, However I have a question for ya??? If I have been doing this Drain N Fill service to our EDGE, should I, or would I want to use the BG Cleaner and Treatment and or the Lube Guard Shudder Fix stuff at this point? (Car has 35K) On the ODO right now. Would this be a WISE Thing to do at this Point / Milage?? Or Just continue to Drain N Fill the Tranny and Not use any Cleaners at this Point in it's LIFE??? Thanks. Great Video, And that was UGLY Stuff coming outta that Tranny.....
Thanks for watching. I would keep doing what you're already doing. And perhaps every 50k to 100k miles use the cleaner.
There is s restrictor on on that breather, you need to remover for the fluid to go in faster
Yeah! It took me years to figure that out haha (after recording this ofc)
If you can afford to do this, great! But now that Amsoil's come out eith their new ATF ULV, id just do 4 tranny changes within 10K miles with that stuff. More cost efficient.
Dude, video is awesome, btw i couldn't find 8f35 trans mount, where's it ? Is it under battery plate?
Yes it is under the battery tray bracket. Thanks for watching
Thank you for the video but I have a question. You have to reset the transmission after fluid change? how you do that?
No, you don't have to reset the transmission after a fluid service. If you're servicing it to attempt fixing firm shifts, you can reset the transmission adaptive tables using Forscan on a laptop
Would the shudder while accelerating to 35ish mph be what the TSB from 2021 is about? My wife's 19 Edge has a nasty shudder or rough shift when we hit about 20-25mph and my research brought up a TSB saying it may be a software problem and that reconfiguring the PCM and transmission solenoids might fix it. Or is that what you did when you said you were resetting the transmission tables?
Hi, I'm not aware of the tsb. But if there's a bulletin for it, that's the best starting point
@@BigBensCarsAndCycles static.nhtsa.gov/odi/tsbs/2021/MC-10203649-0001.pdf
If there were no problems with 8F35 transmission but you hadn't changed the transmission oil for 60k, the 3 time change and drain is a better way to go than a flush or a 1 drain and fill?
I would do the 3x drain. It's easier and diy friendly
did you drain all 11 qt manufacture says this vehicle has 11qts ???
It drains about 4 quarts from the drain plug, 11 is the full capacity and is what's added after a rebuild
If the pump is whining do you think the transmission is too far gone to even attempt a flush? I’m trying to get my sisters fusion temporarily driving until I source a used trans.
hi, if the pump is whining I would just top off the fluid if its low, until you can replace it
@ it kicks, there’s no power, and won’t go into reverse sometimes. Fluid is at correct level only does it once it gets to operating temperature. Also appreciate your videos they’re the best.
So it takes 5 quarts for the total change?
4.2 quarts
$8000 transmission? Would have been cheaper to change the fluid every year or two.
Definitely. And yet these newer cars are marketed as having high 150k maintenance intervals. Just to sell more cars.
I drain and refill mine every 20k miles.
Can I use ATF Amsoil signature on 8F35 transmission?
Yes. That's rated for ULV use.
Im looking at buying a 2020 edge sel with 20k miles
Is this a vehicle you would recommend?
I would avoid the 4 cylinder and get the v6. Much better engine and transmission from a reliability standpoint
Thank you so much for the quick reply. Ill keep that in mind when searching.
2018 was the last year for 3.5 liter V-6 in Edge. It also comes with a stronger/better transmission than 2.0 Ecoboost comes with.
The 8F35 had bad needle bearings from 2019 to 2020? I have the bulletin.
They should be compensating customers
I just love how some people just drive it & never pop the hood so much as once.
THEN, the transmission starts acting up. DUH. Just stuff a new trans in it and
send her on her way.
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This is on ford. They recommend 150k miles before draining trans fluid.
@@Zardif They want the tranny to fail at a certain point so that they can make thousands replacing it. I drive a low miles 2016 Ford and replaced my tranny fluid at about 25K.
I thought when you do several drain and fills you are supposed to drive it around in between the fills?
I let the engine run for 15 mins and that mixed the fluid well
I have a 2017 Ford Edge Titanium 4-CL turbo. Recently, 3 different times in the last 3 weeks, while driving/accelerating driving 40 MPH or below, it felt like my transmission "clunked" or made a "thud" sound, then resumed "normal" driving. My AC was running full blast during these instances (idk if that's important)
I have roughly 114K miles, and have a full warranty on it, and have maintained maintenance at every interval.
What could be causing this? I have an appointment to have it looked at at the end of this month (7/24/24) but I'd like to have some additional info before I take it in because, no offense, but a lot of women aren't taken seriously in the automotive world, at least in my experience
Is your Ford Edge all wheel drive?
@@ericgalvan3589 Yes it is
Where did u get the clear and fluids at I have a 2020 ford edge that I want to do this to
@@rodneybailey1106 hi, the ford dealer
I have been having a similar issue with a 2019 Edge Titanium i just bought recently. It wouldn't go in reverse at one point. But it all started when it told me Park unavailable on my dash. The dealership said I have internal damage and need a new one. Do you think I should get a second opinion or try cleansing first?
A second opinion wouldn't hurt. Sometimes the turbine speed sensor can cause issues like that. But I do have an 8f35 teardown video with a similar problem to yours and it was bad
Are you very familiar with the 8F57 trans? I know it, the 8F24 and the 8F35 are all coming out of the same place and very similar. Since i’m looking to massivly excede the torque rating for my 8F35 on my 2020 Escape 2.0t, is there any possible application of the 8F57 into the escape? Do they share mounting and or engine connections (This would be going into a 2.3t corsair engine). If not is there anything in theory to beef up the 8F35?
The 8f57 is a lot different than the others. Its pretty much a completely different transmission. Different mounting, different bell housing bolt pattern. It's bolt pattern matches up to the v6 engines. The 8f35 isn't the most durable transmission - but should hold up a while in your situation. You can wait until it fails, then tear it down and see what failed - and see if theres billet parts for that application
I would see if 6F35 could work and use premium fluid like Amsoil or Redline.
Why they write on plug don’t remove it ?
It's a cap for the cover on the valve body. It serves no apparent function other than keeping debris out from in the valve body
So what was wrong with it?
It had internal failure, there was a piston seal leaking. Replacement was recommended. The service fixed the converter shudder but that's all
Hello where we can order the whole kit of products
Hi, Amazon has it all. Thanks for watching!
HI, I have a question, I have Ford Focus (EU market) 2.0 150HP with the same 8th speed gearbox. I have small issue that when I drive 80km/h on Normal drive mode in 8th gear, the car starts to vibrate for 2-3 seconds becouse its on low RPM (1200-1500) can the oilchange fix that or should I open Hidroblock to change solenoid valves or something. NO ERRORS on diagnostics and local Ford Service can't find the problem. the trembling of vehicle only noticeable at lower speeds/RPM's. when driveing in SPORT mode its better and gear changeing is normal (usualy gear changeing on normal mode is slightly bumpy)
Yes I think a fluid service can help. That sounds like a torque converter shudder. The friction modifier (shudder fix) plus new fluid should get rid of the issue
I wouldn’t have done all that, with high mileage at least. Ford says NOT to add additives too. I have Ford edge SEL 6F35 transmission. I have 72,000 miles and I’m leery on flushing my transmission.
On my 2017 Ford Edge, I drained and filled the transmission fluid 3 times at 30k miles. I watched several videos showing how it's done, not hard. Be careful with the drain plug, there is a gap between the head on bolt and transmission case body. You don't want to over torque it, could crack aluminum transmission body it screws into.
Customer brings vehicle in for hard shifts.....mechanic advises taking it out on the highway and flooring it 15-30x.....😂
Lol the guy in the video Is dork 😆
How much does it cost to change automatic fluid?
Hi. It should cost 300 to 400 usd to have it done
Is this price for labor only or with oil included? Thank you.
@@Язнаю-н3ц with oil
great video, pity it didn't help.
Yeah, I had high hopes!
I like your videos! I have a 2012 fusion 6F35 150K, with 1 into 2 and 2 into 3 shift delay when cold. shop quoted me 5,800 for a rebuild. It looks like I can find a reman one for about 2500. I’m wondering what would you do? swap it out? if so does it have to be re programed?
Hi. Thanks for watching. I think a new valve body and solenoid body could fix your problem. But I haven't diagnosed it in person. Yes, you'll want to program the strategy into the pcm from the new transmission.
@@BigBensCarsAndCycles thanks Ben. I guess at 150 thousand is it really worth trying to patch up something that isn’t expected to last much longer ? from talking to guys and looking on forums 150-160K seems to be the life expectancy
@@Xxradar007xX gotcha. Understandable. A reman would be a good idea for peace of mind
Automatic transmissions have always baffled me! Ive always just considered them magical boxes that just worked. Lol! What i honestly dont understand is how the clutch packs work at all considering they are bathed in lightweight lubrication oil!? If you lubricated a standard transmission clutch it would naturally slip. Why doesn't an automatic transmission slip if its working correctly????
Hi, there are clutches that are designed to operate wet. Even some dual clutch autos are wet clutches (essentially automatic manuals)
Where you located?
Virginia
What about a complete 100% fluid flush w/BG instead of 5-6 drain n fills and too long of labor? Waste of the customers & your time! Gotta call customer back & tell him he needs a trans now?!?!?!
yeah!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 😀
FORD Transmissions are GARBAGE - My 2013 Exploder had to have a complete tranny rebuild at 78k miles. Now just 2 years later, it's slipping again!!
Hatespeeds make us all money.
00:39 my guess is no. 130k miles, it probably needs a filter change. The fluid is dirty but clean fluid will not go through a dirty filter. You have said BG twice. 4:00 I’m out. I refuse to watch any video where a person put BG in a car.
Alrighty! Thanks for tuning in for 4 minutes! Take care.
I’m curious as to why you seem to dislike BG Products?
So, let me see. I watched this to learn how to piss away over $300 and fix nothing.
@@ronking2177 fixed the shudder. So it's good for that