I think Van was the only one not shocked because she has accepted a while ago that violence is their only way to survive, that's why she had that look and always seems to be more far removed emotionally from tragic situations. I think her rough home life made her a survivalist before the plane crash, which is the reason for why it's easier for her to assimilate to the situation.
To say nothing of almost getting burned alive in the crash, getting her face mauled by wolves, and almost burned alive yet again when presumed for dead.
Yeah people hate on van for how she reacted to Javi’s death but honestly, I don’t blame her. She’s starving and in complete survival mode. The only way she’s going to get through this is by adopting the mentality that she has.
Them killing Natalie would have been so stupid and ungrateful, she is their best hunter who kept them all alive. Same with Shauna, she is needed for her skills. I dont think its smart that everyone picks a card.
shauna is a main character and all but nobody needed her lmfao. what skills did she have other than getting pregnant and causing Jackies death? They needed Nat and Misty and Lottie.
Nat consented to this concept of dying and she had the choice to save him. Thus, Nat is morally a bad person and should be blamed. Yes, I suppose being stuck in their situation, it wouldn't be easy for their or our brain to consider the actual context, but my argument is that placing Nat out of the equation is pretty much bad reasoning.
@@captaindesperatehousewife7138 i mean by that logic javi also consented to dying by the choice of the wilderness, since he drew cards as well. but javi wanted nat to save him, and nat ran from the girls to save herself, because neither of them wanted to die, and their 'consent' didn't mean shit. talk to me about morality all day, but instinct is the only thing that matters when you're forced to choose between your own life and someone else's. it's the girls who are at fault for this, not nat.
@@tabaxi stop trying to take the blame off natalie. just stop. you clearly do not get the concept of the show if you choose to ignore these character's flaws, she did what she had to in order to survive - she's still wrong for doing so. no one is innocent.
@@captaindesperatehousewife7138 the cards chose Natalie but the wilderness chose Javi dont you see? Javi being the one to fall into the water was the sign the needed for him.
I don’t know why but I love everything about this scene it just shows how different they were compared to who they were the first few days after the plane crash and just how much they’ve all practically lost their minds to the wilderness and the famine they’re all experiencing
@@wiinterflowers4277 And that is why the writers will specifically make sure that the fans hate Natalie by the end of the series. This show is all about creating allegiances and then destroying them; making fans love a character and then destroying their love of that character.
@@thoseradstars To be honest, the character I ended up hating the most was Misty. Natalie I honestly I'm still in shock. At least she tried to do the right thing (ex: getting the cult girl her fish back, faking Javi's death to keep him safe, trying to save Javi when he fell into the ice, not buying into Lottie's cuckoo cult shit). Misty on the other hand, first season: cut a dude's leg off, laced food with mushrooms, kills a lady who was being held captive by her. Second season: stops Natalie from saving Javi based on all the girls' reasons for survival, followed Lottie, killed Natalie.Hell, the girls wouldn't be back in the mess had Callie not been screwing the cop. It's like it's illegal to be a good person on the show or any show nowadays!
misty killing natalie literally wasn't even on purpose though.. she was going to kill leah and nat jumped in front of her and sacrificed herself instead. it was her way of redeeming herself in her eyes for not being able to save javi back then. and i also don't fault misty for amputating ben's leg either; it was literally crushed underneath the weight of the plane and he could have died from infection had she not done that. the food being laced with mushrooms was mari's fault bc she put them in the food, misty wasn't responsible for that but i will say she was wrong for trying to use them for ben in the first place. i'm not the biggest fan of misty but it's easy to explain some of the more insane things she's done based on her actions and the desire to be valuable to the team.
misty's whole character is based off doing crazy shit so the other yellowjackets will rely on her when things look bleak/grim. she has sociopathic tendencies and is very delusional, but she's also fiercely loyal and that's why even when they don't want to, they still turn to misty for help/guidance. it's not hard to miss these things when you watch with an unbiased viewpoint.
@@nicolesamuels6276 I've seen a lot worse than a sexist teenage boy. Also, given that he killed himself, even years after the tragedy, I feel like they were all a WAY worse influence on him, than he was on them, ESPECIALLY Nat, in some weird way.
When I say I’m mad about what they did, Im not mad about the fact that they ate somebody I’m mad about the fact that they ate JAVI LIKE CMON 😭😭I was rooting for him to get tf outta there
nat faked javi's death then had to see it actually happen. nat gave javi new gloves and had to see them while he died. this show is making my hair fall out.
Reading these comments makes me sad lol. I’m so glad I have a formal education and I’m also not stupid. I enjoy media so much more since I’m able to effectively analyze it and don’t have any weird misogynistic or religious biases.
people saying this is shitty writing bc their fave died😭 boy this writing felt so fresh and out of the box for tv. It's clever and picks at every emotion you have. THIS IS TV
@@MayaClementines-rz5qw No one is happy that a kid character died. Everyone is happy that the narrative took a bleak turn that challenges the viewers' alliances to the characters knowing that they did terrible things. It's not easy soap opera entertainment where there's recognizable good and bad.
this whole sequence of events is so fucked -- deciding that they HAVE to save Lottie despite her practically being on her death bed (and despite her saying if she dies she wants them to eat her, showing she's kind of already accepted her fate). To me, and maybe this is the whole point, it feels like they are playing God, not the greater power they talk of. I do believe though that there's some higher power/supernatural thing going on, but still, I think it's very interesting how it's very half and half. The whole group screaming and howling like animals is insane, it really highlights just how animalistic these people have become. Also, I'm still so hung up on the fact that, besides Travis, the only hunter of the group and the only person who's really trying to find resources and food outside of, well, people, is the person who pulled the Queen card. Dude, the ONLY person who's making an active attempt to get food for everybody is the one who is going to become the food, that boils my fucking blood like I would pull that knife right out of Shauna's hand and run on all fours screaming and chasing them around the cabin. lol. Anyways. There so obviously could have been other ways, ANY OTHER WAY than setting up some "game" that determines your upcoming brutal death, and I know the winter is what's making their food situation near to impossible but I mean, I don't know man if you've all already lost all your humantiy to the point where this type of game even so much as enters your mind, just starve. Everybody who survives ends up bringing death back with them, whether it was a death of a relationship, or a literal murder. I mean this scene was just so fucked, let alone the fact that Nat's the character who had to fake Javi's death, sewed him gloves, and ends up watching him drown helplessly wearing said gloves. As much as I love this show it is causing physical pain to my heart, and rooting for the girls is becoming impossible, specifically their teen selves. I can't lie I am rooting for adult Misty, it's my fatal flaw. Jesus Christ I wrote so much. RIP Javi, you had like 18 lines this season but I loved you anyway! edit: also Van shut the fuck up.
My guilty flaw is Shauna like her descend to madness is intriguing to me for the simple fact she was the quiet girl , always in Jackie’s shadow and seemed pretty mild mannered but in those woods something dark is coming out of her . I like Adult Misty but I lost all respect and blame her for most of the deaths because she destroyed the plane recorder box.
@@Cuttatv that was the flight recorder, not the location transmitter. That box was only for recording in-flight information for the purpose of determining the cause of the crash AFTER rescue. The tracker on that puppy only works underwater and besides if it had been a working tracker, they would have already been in the ballpark of being rescued by now.
I hate that they killed and ate Javi but to those who are confused, they are NOT portraying the main female leads as good people. They are messed up but we are led to understand what made them like that. They had to do what they had to to survive, they are clearly without mental wellness resources, and/or there may be a supernatural force out there influencing their actions. You're not supposed to think their actions are correct. Just because there are parts of them that are good DOESN'T mean the show is excusing their bad actions. I HATE what they have become but because of the complexities of their characters, that makes for an interesting watch. People get mad when women are portrayed as infallible and saintly (Mary Sue, they call it?) but when you make them nuanced and complex, you still get backlash.
@@lisaconnelly5443 Towards the end of season two, and even a little in season one, there were hints that there was something supernatural there with them. I couldn't tell you what since it's been months since I finished watching it with my mom, but there definitely was something. Also, they didn't say that being stranded in the woods wouldn't drive you crazy, they just said that the supernatural vibes could've added to it.
Misty is the ultimate pragmatist. Javi is the youngest/smallest isn't as popular in the group hierarchy and can't hunt so she throws him to the wolfs by placing her bets on Nat. Always goes with the most powerful.
What they do have a moral compass…..they held out as long as they could….the literal alternative is they all die….and then you wouldn’t have a show to watch at all ….
@@onidoremc9490have you ever heard of those real life incidents where people got stuck in nature and had to resort to cannibalism? Those people still live today and probably have families, would you have rather they had starved and suffered because of your own moral compass?
Javi tried to help Nat after she left him for dead, this was the second time she left him to die when he was HELPING her survive. Its so disgusting javi survived alone for so long to be immediately killed by these girls.
Along with Misty and arguably Shauna. Like Misty is invaluable and so is Natalie, and while Shauna is lowkey replaceable in the time it would take to train her replacement they might as well just keep her and kill the replacement but yes, exactly. Some of them should not have been in that draw and it was dumb to put them in there to begin with. Like, what happens if another one gets knocked up and they've killed off Misty? Or next time there's a medical emergency?
@@greencheekconurestan5316 Could you explain the card game for me please? Cuz I really don't get it, I know they do it to survive that part I get it, but why they decided who to eat based on a card game? Is it maybe because it's more fair for all of the girls? So they eat whoever has the queen doesn't matter if their valuable or not for surviving in the wilderness?
@@aaronmoyano2340 they decided to let "the wilderness" (basically fate) choose, thinking if they paid tribute to the forces at play here, maybe they'll be kinder to them in the future, but considering it's not exactly like life was sunshine and rainbows when Lottie pledged the bear heart to the woods, I don't see how it could. But at this point they were deep into the cult and deep into insanity. I know people attribute that to Misty but she's pretty practical and pragmatic at the very least and she at least had her head screwed on straight when she rescued Natalie, if for nothing then for at least practicality's sake.
What is this comment section dude, sexism against women, sexism against men, people who are saying the characters are good people, people saying the characters are bad people and that the show has bad writing because the characters eat people even though thats kind of the point of the show, jesus.
To think that she could've been more of a hero, had she not destroyed the flight recorder and brought it to her teenage crush Coach Ben instead. I'd picture Misty being in a courtroom inside her mind, when her time comes. Walter as her defence counsel, Ben as the prosecution. With Crystal/Kristen as the star witness who pins Misty with her testimony. As the verdict is read out by the fore member of the jury (which in my opinion should be Jackie with Laura Lee presiding as the judge), Misty breaks down, becoming an emotional wreck as the weight of her misdeeds takes it's ultimate toll. Then an apparition of her younger self appears not as a form of comfort, but to further torment her by saying in a debasing tone of voice... "Don't cry Misty! Babies cry!". To which everyone in the courtroom repeatedly chimes the phrase... "Babies cry!" Misty then mentally plummets into an endless void screaming, as she takes her last breath on this earthly plane.
I highly doubt they would’ve been rescued even if she didn’t destroy the flight recorder. It’s not her fault but she’s still awful because of her intentions behind it. She’s the only Yellowjacket I genuinely despise
@@sweettooth4759 HUHHH?? OF COURSE ITS HER FAULT. a working black box means immediate rescue, they would’ve been found. they would’ve known where the plane was and they would’ve been found in a few days. it’s absolutely disgusting that she became selfish and insane and destroyed the black box so there’s absolutely NO HOPE of them getting found without sheer luck.
Poor poor baby. They couldve 'saved' him, he woulve died of hypothermia within minutes anyway. They shoulve known that, at least the one with the glasses.
Now why y’all suddenly got shocked by this likeee . The plot already foreshadowed they literally mentioned multiple times that they did some really fucked up shit shit😭
What I don’t understand is why they chose to kill Natalie but yet didn’t want to eat Shauna unborn baby 😅 like that’s where they draw the line in craziness ?
@@tabithanel1975 Javi had more meat to provide. That sounds.. weird lmao. But like, they're all probably more willing to eat a fully-formed being than a stillborn, especially when the mother is still around.
yup that's pretty much the gist of it. the girls don't know misty destroyed the emergency transmitter box though so i think it'll be interesting to see how that plays out next season
@@finfog4590 well i imagine they know crystal is dead since they went looking for her body but I don't think they know misty is the one who killed her in present day. there's a lot they don't know about her which i figure will unravel as the show progresses
@@jeonghanismit was the floght recorder, not the location transmitter. Flight recorder only transmits its location when underwater. It wouldn't have helped them get rescued. If it could have they would already have been rescued, because she wouls have just delayed the rescuers a bit, as it would have already been transmitting their location long enough for them to have a rough estimate of where they were.
Murdering and eating children isn't 'morally grey', wtf? Also, you're not a misogynist if you think that characters that happen to be women and who do reprehenisble things (like murdering and eating people, including innocent children) are reprehensible characters that deserve to be punished for their horrific actions. If you think this is excusable behaviour because the characters that commit them are women and that everyone who disagrees is a misogynist, there is something very wrong with you.
@@ArkhamAsylum1505 The way you put it, it may sound bad, but we are in a context where if they don't eat they will die of hunger, they don't enjoy them, their first objective was not to eat Javi, and hunting was something that everyone agreed on except for Lottie And Ben, they didn't murder Javi, he fell and would have died from the cold anyway Now the misogyny thing is quite obvious, everyone blames the girls for eating Javi, but no one says anything about Travis.
@@arnoldrimmer960it would be hard to catch that many fish. And they don’t have poles and string. The writing is horrible tho. They had a great show and ruined it.
@@santaclause3487 Yeah, season one was fucking amazing, but they totally dropped the ball with season two, like, from what I remember, we didn't even get to find out who was being chased in the very first scene of the show, even though that was the WHOLE MYSTERY that everyone (or me and my mom😅) was waiting for.
Misty's carrying the ax she used to chop off Coach Ben's leg. After doing so she said "Help me move him!" This time, she's preventing someone from being moved.
@@clarakhasai7057 To those girls yes. They've literally just been waiting for someone to die so they could eat them. They are starving. For them Javi had to die in the lake before they could get him out.
The only young teens likable are Nat Javi and Travis. As adults, they’re a little likable. I think Van is great but she’s as demented as the rest. And Misty is simply there for chaotic humor
Taissa is pretty likeable as a teen too in my opinion, yes she joins in when the girls go feral but she never does anything significantly worse than the others unlike Shauna, Misty and Lottie lmfao.
It’s like he came back only to further the plot by bringing the Queen of Hearts card, leaving some mystery drawings and become food. The whole season is just new or lost people showing up to be killed. Not sure if that’s bad writing or what.
@@wildmarjoramdieselpunk6396 The issue is we already know who makes it off the island. So we know who is going to die. It is just really a matter of when. With less people on the island, some of the other characters will be more fleshed out I would imagine and begin to play a larger role like we are beginning to see with Mari and Akylah.
@@wildmarjoramdieselpunk6396 yeah, I was confused when they just added in a bunch of random people and I hate the going back and forth thing because you can never make me think Nat will die as a kid, I see her as an adult lol
That’s a bit of a stretch. The girls rarely do anything right. The survival “realism” is shotty at best and despite being stranded in the wilderness, they still focus on interpersonal drama. Nice try.
@@ShaftCommanderwhen you're a teenager in the middle of nowhere with no drink no food barely clothed dont know if someone's gonna come and get you you pretty much lose your mind so yeah im not saying that it's 100% realistic but it's not unrealistic either
Most of the girls besides Natalie, Lottie and maybe Akilah are horrible people. Shauna and Misty especially were already fucked up before the crash and the wilderness brought out their worse qualities
Women in the comments: discussing the show and it’s themes Men in the comments: trying to judge people starving to death/ being generally misogynistic from the comfort of their gaming chair (Do you fellas have this same energy for Walter White/Homelander or do you guys just hate women?)
Yes, I do have the same feelings towards male characters that commit morally reprehensible acts. They are all morally reprehensible characters that deserve the worst possible karma. You can perfectly enjoy a story and wish that all the unhinged and evil characters from said story get what's coming to them in the end. I don't know why this is so hard to understand.
I hate that they killed and ate Javi but to those who are confused, they are NOT portraying the main female leads as good people. They are messed up but we are led to understand what made them like that. They had to do what they had to to survive, they are clearly without mental wellness resources, and/or there may be a supernatural force out there influencing their actions. You're not supposed to think their actions are correct. Just because there are parts of them that are good DOESN'T mean the show is excusing their bad actions. I HATE what they have become but because of the complexities of their characters, that makes for an interesting watch. People get mad when women are portrayed as infallible and saintly (Mary Sue, they call it?) but when you make them nuanced and complex, you still get backlash.
@@ArkhamAsylum1505Nothing wrong with how you feel about those characters so what OP said doesn't apply to you. There are commenters around here though who seem to follow the logic that just because the main characters do bad things, it means the show is endorsing these actions. This completely forgoes the nuanced way of consuming fiction with complex characters that aren't saintly good.
Who would be insane enough to believe the “wilderness” chose? Not me, I’m going my own way like coach Ben should. Just wander off and fend for myself. Not being around anyone that’s nucking futs over a card game and wants to kill your friends over it.
This scene is so hilariously hypocritical the way they are hunting down a friend but when Javi is in immediate danger and about to die, within seconds they suddenly panic and act worried? Well, except for Misty. 😂
y’all are so annoying. if the season ended w most of the plot finished and solved all of y’all would be like “the next season is just for more money” but they have actual plot still not fully explored and y’all are complaining? everyone these days just love to complain ab anything
@@deltasweetashoney8880 she should have starved to death. If she had, Adam would be alive. Shauna also caused Jackie’s death and started eating her before the others noticed. If Shauna had died probably all the girls would have lived AND Adam.
@@themidnightmotel all the girls would not have survived if shauna was the one to die for 1. They still would’ve had to resort to cannibalism and let’s be for real Jackie probably would’ve been first because she would’ve never wanted to participate or she’d die from starvation, 2. Shauna is the main BUTCHER she’s a vital part of the group for their survival compared to Jackie who did jack shit the whole time she was alive other than failed moral support. and bringing up Adam as a point makes no sense considering I can also make the point that ‘Jeff committed black mail which resulted in Adam’s death so if he died he would’ve let all the next people live (Adam, Nat, Kevyn).
@@deltasweetashoney8880 Jackie didn’t die because she was refusing to pitch in, she died because she had an argument with Shauna about sleeping with her bf and getting pregnant. Shauna literally killed Adam so I don’t understand how bringing up Adam makes no sense to you.
Javi was my fav character. But like unironically I kinda hate season 2. This made no sense to me. Javi is the smallest and has the least meat and is just a fucking kid. Misty knows the couch is suicidal. They know that Crystal's body is out there. Why tf is Misty okay with this now. Why tf did they just switch. Why is Shauna okay with them choosing Natalie over Lottie. This switch felt to quick and I real don't like it. Crystal was the best part of season 2 tbh. But for me season 1 had so much more going on from start to finish. Season 2 just drags on and when I need it to slow down is when it is suddenly to quick. Call me a pussy but the death of Javi was legit to much for me. If he died a seperate way maybe I could get it. But this pisses me off.
It make’s perfect sense why they left Javi die instead of killing Nat. For starters, “the wilderness chose.” Since he fell and would certainly die without help, they could absolve themselves from their part in his death. Second, he wasn’t very useful and only served as a distraction, but most importantly, they didn’t have a personal relationship with Javi before the crash so leaving him to his fate was preferable than killing their actual friend. Why not Lottie or Ben? Because Lottie is the hope of the group which is necessary for survival. As for coach Ben, they have a better relationship with him than Javi and he wasn’t there when it went down.
People who call girls crazy or bad should go see superhero movies or children's movies where everything is morally correct, they should not watch a series that deals with cannibalism and where the characters will do everything they can to live.
They weren't crazy, they were rotten little shits before the crash. I don't need characters that are "morally correct", but these characters are all shallow and one note. Not sympathetic at all.
@@sarapinkdiamond866 I don't support Misty's actions, but it can be understandable what fear and being insecure makes you do, now speaking of the "others" they really haven't done any really bad actions, in the hunt everyone agreed except Lottie and Ben (because they were not there) it was with the consent of everyone and none of them refused, they knew that they would die of hunger if they did not eat and previously they tried to do everything possible to look for food, we cannot blame them for that situation, you may not like them their actions or the characters, but many of their actions are understandable
@@kellyvanspybrook4746 Why do you say they were little shits before the accident? We hardly know about the characters before that and the only ones with questionable attitudes were Shauna, Taisa and Travis, but even with that none of them did anything really serious (Taisa's behavior towards Ellie was not intentional) and practically nothing is known about the others. nothing, you're just saying unfounded things
@@ko890lo8soooo fear makes you destroy a air plan tracker? No one did anything bad? They wanted to ice a girl out because she sucks at soccer then broke her leg, literally only one girl was not cool with icing her out. Oh right cheating with your best friend boyfriend is also super sweet, I love the show but to sit there and say “most of the girls are not selfish, and are not little shits” now that’s just being ignorant
@@lamb9770 Idk if you notice but javi didnt have to help and risk his life but he did. And in return she acted like a coward to save her own ass a d watched him him die as he begs to her.
@@beachbeauties4385 It’s so funny because literally everything about Nat’s character contradicts your claim of being a “coward.” If anything she’s the bravest one there. She’s the one going out daily risking her life to find food but still was willing to die to feed the group. When she first drew the card she accepted it. She made Shauna look her in the eye before she died. She was going to die for the group until Travis gave her a chance to live. Javi wasn’t really risking his life to save her since he wasn’t being hunted. As soon as he fell in that ice it was over for him. The girls saw that as the wilderness offering a sacrifice so they didn’t have to kill Nat. No one was going to help her and she couldn’t get him out. The second she tries to save him again they’re just going to kill her as Misty explicitly says in the scene. She chose survival just like everyone else would. It was an impossible situation and she realized in that moment she didn’t want to die. It’s so easy to sit in the safety of your home and make all these self righteous claims about what should be done in this scenario but realistically you have no idea how you’d handle it :)
Can't believe Natalie just sat there and watched him die when he went out of his way to try and save her. So messed up. And she'll probably lie to Travis on how he really died.
@S They pulled her off of him. She knew even if she tried she couldn't lift him up by herself. What was the point? Use up all of her strength and freeze her arms up on the very small chance she could save him on her own? It was FUCKED up but Nat doesn't deserve the hate here.
i hate her ever since she basically told travis to get over it and just eat his brother cuz she knows if it was tai she’d be screaming crying trying to beat everyone up n shit
@@soobintheestalIionholy shit im with you. I have a brother, hes my best friend in the world and if some bitch told me to get over him being cannibalized there is nothing that will stop me from scalping that bitch.
I found Javi was a forgettable character and not that interesting. I was surprise he would return (for like one episode) in the second season, and just found he made little impact in this season and there was no point in keeping him on the show (no hate to the actor - he's a good actor). I was really surprise how dark his death was and feel bad that Natalie had to witness it and she could have saved him.
I didn’t find Javi interesting but his death still made me sad, to be drowning while an entire group of people watch you slowly die knowing you will die and be cannibalized is an unimaginably hopeless feeling
@@wln8888 agree but we've been that stuff like this tends to happen in history, to the regular, defenseless person and this person goes forgotten in time. Like the young girl who was cannibalized by the 17th century Jamestown Settlement. They is no documentation of her sacrifice, not even her real name. They didnt leave a trace of her real identity despite the fact she kept them feed. She didnt deserve it, yet it happened and she was forgotten almost to time if it wasn't for finding her body. Javi will most likely do the same to hide to evidence they killed and ate him.
@@syd1764 and when you know better; you do better, you know ? Javi deserves to be remembered, recognized, and seen. We don’t have to keep playing out old patterns.
The writers need to step their game up or they will be losing viewers. The synopsis is great. I love the idea and even the actors & actresses are great ! But the story line is just so outta whacked and makes it’s confusing to follow along. Like they keep making more questions instead of answering some then asking more. I loved the finale yet disappointed cause a lot of questions didn’t get answered in 2 seasons !
@@everglowblink9805 Im only watching until coach ben dies, I cant root for any of the main girls as i agree wholefully with coach Bens opinion on murdering and eating children
@@theMcWOPPER I had to make time to respond to this. Okay so first is, the wilderness? Tai & Lottie are in some way connected to the wilderness. Because bad Tai can find the symbols on the tree and when the bad side asked how’d they know about the symbol it tried to kill her by making walk off a cliff had it not been for Van saving her. #2 Why is the wilderness choosing to bother them 25 yrs later ? Someone had to summon it ? It’s been 25 yrs why is it returning to stir up trouble ? #3 when they ended I think s1 episode 6 after Lottie killed the bear and offered the wilderness it’s heart . She said, “ let the darkness set us free.” So in a way like Misty stated she started this crap. #4 Did the group ever find out that Misty destroyed the flight recorder box ? #5 wtf is up with Shauna ? I love adult Shauna but in her teens why tf she all of sudden has a thirst for blood when there wasn’t any signs she had “darkness” within her. I mean sleeping with your best friends boyfriend then getting knocked up by him is hard but not darkness like Tai & Lottie
@@Cuttatv Shauna was shown to be quite aggressive and odd before the crash; she tried to fight Tai, she had a chip on her shoulder when it came to Jackie, she forced Jeff to say he loves her, etc. I'd call her a sociopath but then again she did show empathy towards Tai when she confided in her about sleep walking, but that could've just been a necessary step for her to gain an ally/confidant while out there, because after she catches lottie talking to her baby she gets mad at Tai saying she's supposed to be her friend and be on her side etc. Idk Shauna is a strange character, very hard to understand. One thing I do know is that she's smart asf and very aware, her and Tai seem to be the only ones not being totally brainwashed by that wilderness sacrificial crap, Tai is in it for van and Shauna just knows that she's outnumbered and if she doesn't play along she'll be an outcast like Jackie was which could be dire. I can't think of a time I've heard her get involved in the crazy talk, we've only heard her speak against it to Tai when she makes it clear she thinks the other girls have lost the plot.
La alternativa era que la matarán a ella por salvarle, de igual manera quiero creer que están afectadas por el hambre no quiero creer que simplemente el guión es malo o que son idiots ( por qué si te vas a lo más práctico era salir a cazar todas las más fuertes o seguir buscando los restos de cristal o simplemente no acabar con los únicos que sabían usar el rifle 🤡 , si la única alternativa fuera esa el maestro habría sido la opción o la loca lottie que ya había dado su consentimiento)
@@isaachernandez2715 Y además del hambre gracias a lottie todas creen que la Naturaleza o The wilderness es la fuerza que escoge quién las alimenta pero yo sinceramente siento que en la temporada 3 se nos va a revelar que en realidad ellas escogian, ojo no digo que la fuerza de la naturaleza no sea real, no afirmo ni niego nada de eso, pero de lo que si estoy seguro es que las víctimas y todo aquel que murió para que ellas se alimentasen fue absolutamente la culpa de todas, no de la naturaleza. Y si no pasa en la temporada 3 entonces en la 4 jajaj porque los creadores quieren hacer una temporada completa con ellas tratando de ajustarse a la nueva normalidad después de ser rescatadas.
of all of them, who is Murderous 2.Monsterous 3.Malevolent 4.Cruel 5.Devilish 6.Short Tempered 7.Terrifying 8.Scary 9.Horrifying 10.Sadistic 11.Heartless 12.Creepy 13.Crude 14.Sophisticated 15.Disgusting 16.Dangerous 17.Sinful 18.Satanic 19.Deceptive 20.Manipulative 21.Angry 22.Insane 23.Crazy 24.Psychotic 25.Demonic 26.Repulsive 27.Violent 28.Nasty 29.Evil 30.Wicked 31.Abusive 32.Hateful. who has all of these characteresticstics?
@@AbstractEntityJ i use to think it was misty. Now I think it's shawna. she fits all if not most of these characteristic, I can't wait for her demise or death.
they're not winter coats, they're regular jackets with many layers of clothing underneath, the only real winter coat is the one Travis wears and they found it in the cabin
Honestly, I didn't like it, but not because it "impressed" or "shocked" me. It's just that with each episode, everything becomes more no-sense. When Shauna and Jackie had their argument, even though it was a "simple" argument, everyone sided with Shauna and agreed to exclude Jackie. So why is it that now, when Shauna puts Lottie in a coma, no one says anything to her? Why randomly choose someone when they could have chosen Shauna, who was the reason Lottie was about to die? Honestly, it all seems no-sense to me. The only possible explanation is that they believe the sacrifice must be ritualistic and chosen randomly, but even in that case, it all seems illogical.
i get that, but they’re also a bunch of teenagers starving and experiencing delusions, so we can’t really expect them to make the smartest of decisions. also i think they let shauna beat up lottie cause the power dynamics between the group are shifting but ido
Youre not WATCHING the show. Jackie was an outcast at that point, her death wasn't planned but they still contributed to the reason she died even if it was an accident. And by the time Javi died, he was also an outcast. Lottie told the group that Shauna needed to get it out and to let her, to kill Shauna after Lottie sacrificed her health would be insane. Also Shauna still has worth to the group, she is the butcher the one who is making their food. Javi didnt have any worth to the group, the wilderness seems to pick the ones who are outcasts. He had been missing what two three months by this point, he missed all the hardships they've faced during the winter, he seemed to have a "friend" who isn't in the group. They pick from the cards and Natalie was chosen from the cards, but to them Javi was picked by the wilderness as he was the one who fell into the lake. If you watch these girls outcast the ones who are of no use in their minds, Ali in the first episode was cast out even before the plane crash happened, the only reason she was spared from the crash. Jackie was sulking around after the crash. We can assume now that we are seeing what these girls think they are seeing in their current states, yes unreliable but that is how they are seeing this.
@@syd1764 Just because I don't share your exact perception and opinion of a TV series doesn't mean I haven't watched it or haven't paid attention. While I understand your reasoning to some extent, it still doesn't convince me. Natalie is also crucial: she was basically the one responsible for procuring food (except for the snow issue), which Shauna then butchered. Based on your reasoning, the coach should have been the one to be sacrificed at this point in the story. Honestly, I can't fully agree with you, even though I do agree with certain aspects (especially the whole "wilderness" concept). However, as it stands, I believe Yellowjackets is more of a visually appealing series rather than one with profound meaning. I don't see a logical progression or consistency; it feels more like an excuse to explore the girls' descent into madness, particularly Shauna. And honestly, I'm fine with that because, even though it's not a "serious" series, it's still enjoyable
@@MayaClementines-rz5qw there is literally multiple poc characters in the background are you an idiot just trying to make everything about racism. Get out of here dude
Omg right! So much of the writing felt so contrived and unnatural. The only thing I liked about this season was how it showed that most of girls are truly evil, which season one didn’t really reveal.
@@futuristicgirl14 Eating people who are already dead or murdering children to eat them are two very different things. The fact that you seem to think that this normal behaviour even in this situation is very worrisome. And thinking that the combination of murder and cannibalism is morally reprhensible isn't 'incel behaviour´. I would have said the same if the characters were all men. If you entertain the thought of murdering people, let alone children, and act on it, you have no place in society.
@@ArkhamAsylum1505these people should read about the 2 guides the donner party had…at least with the uruguayan flight they agreed if they died to use their bodies.
Stopped by out of curiosity as to where this show went. I watched a couple of episodes in the beginning then passed. Just thought it was to slow and didnt like the flashback format. I think it would have been better to just show the past then move to the future in season 2. To me the flash back and forth dragged it out to long. was boring.
same. I think this series have a lot of good elements and actresses to be awesome, but somehow they manage to make it boring, specialy with them as adults
I was disappointed though too and know what you mean. We were left to jump to far too many conclusions which may have been the point if they were trying to showcase what severe trauma does to memory and a person over time. Severe trauma destroys the brain and nervous system. Memories can be muddled.
@@wln8888 interesting interpretation, but I think you're being far too generous. This is just incredibly lazy, nonsensical writing. It was actually pretty crazy to see a show crater out of nowhere like that.
@Wearing Yellow to a Funeral beating up Lottie almost to death and nobody giving a shit, only to turn around next episode and KILL someone so that she can live because she's a goddess or something? The coach being the "moral" authority by refusing to eat humans, but somehow he is fine with murdering everybody by burning the cabin? How about the whole idea of Lottie being a goddess worshipped by all, when all she's delivered is one bear and a bunch of lousy birds, AND the fact that she failed the test? And despite this, suddenly everybody's a damn cultist for this "presence" in the woods? That's just off the top of my head...shall I go on?
Realistically she could never pull him out on her own, and none of those girls were helping: the survivors guilt is that she stopped trying when she realized if he lived she died
Both - she wasn’t strong enough to pull him out alone because drenched winter gear is extremely heavy, so she asked for help. But when Misty pulled her back & basically told her “it’s him or you,” Nat knew she was right and stopped trying.
I think Van was the only one not shocked because she has accepted a while ago that violence is their only way to survive, that's why she had that look and always seems to be more far removed emotionally from tragic situations. I think her rough home life made her a survivalist before the plane crash, which is the reason for why it's easier for her to assimilate to the situation.
To say nothing of almost getting burned alive in the crash, getting her face mauled by wolves, and almost burned alive yet again when presumed for dead.
Yeah people hate on van for how she reacted to Javi’s death but honestly, I don’t blame her. She’s starving and in complete survival mode. The only way she’s going to get through this is by adopting the mentality that she has.
Javi calling for natalie to help him 😭
Them killing Natalie would have been so stupid and ungrateful, she is their best hunter who kept them all alive. Same with Shauna, she is needed for her skills. I dont think its smart that everyone picks a card.
They rigged the game later on
@@finfog4590you think? Well it does seem so
@@nathanielhalverson6979 Yeah, it was heavily hinted at that they were sparing the important people.
shauna is a main character and all but nobody needed her lmfao. what skills did she have other than getting pregnant and causing Jackies death? They needed Nat and Misty and Lottie.
@@teddymarian9416well Shauna knows how to use a knife ig
not yall blaming Nat when she was just as powerless. the power was in the other girls. if she saved him, she would’ve died.
Nat consented to this concept of dying and she had the choice to save him. Thus, Nat is morally a bad person and should be blamed. Yes, I suppose being stuck in their situation, it wouldn't be easy for their or our brain to consider the actual context, but my argument is that placing Nat out of the equation is pretty much bad reasoning.
@@captaindesperatehousewife7138 i mean by that logic javi also consented to dying by the choice of the wilderness, since he drew cards as well. but javi wanted nat to save him, and nat ran from the girls to save herself, because neither of them wanted to die, and their 'consent' didn't mean shit. talk to me about morality all day, but instinct is the only thing that matters when you're forced to choose between your own life and someone else's. it's the girls who are at fault for this, not nat.
@@tabaxi
Except, Javi was not chosen and he survived, thus it would be wrong to compare him to Nat's case...
@@tabaxi stop trying to take the blame off natalie. just stop. you clearly do not get the concept of the show if you choose to ignore these character's flaws, she did what she had to in order to survive - she's still wrong for doing so. no one is innocent.
@@captaindesperatehousewife7138 the cards chose Natalie but the wilderness chose Javi dont you see? Javi being the one to fall into the water was the sign the needed for him.
I don’t know why but I love everything about this scene it just shows how different they were compared to who they were the first few days after the plane crash and just how much they’ve all practically lost their minds to the wilderness and the famine they’re all experiencing
It's hard to judge starving people, but only Natalie, Travis and Javi tried to do the right thing in this.
At least Natalie went and tried to save Javi. That's why I don't think she's as bad as everyone else.
@@wiinterflowers4277
And that is why the writers will specifically make sure that the fans hate Natalie by the end of the series.
This show is all about creating allegiances and then destroying them; making fans love a character and then destroying their love of that character.
@@thoseradstars To be honest, the character I ended up hating the most was Misty. Natalie I honestly I'm still in shock. At least she tried to do the right thing (ex: getting the cult girl her fish back, faking Javi's death to keep him safe, trying to save Javi when he fell into the ice, not buying into Lottie's cuckoo cult shit). Misty on the other hand, first season: cut a dude's leg off, laced food with mushrooms, kills a lady who was being held captive by her. Second season: stops Natalie from saving Javi based on all the girls' reasons for survival, followed Lottie, killed Natalie.Hell, the girls wouldn't be back in the mess had Callie not been screwing the cop. It's like it's illegal to be a good person on the show or any show nowadays!
misty killing natalie literally wasn't even on purpose though.. she was going to kill leah and nat jumped in front of her and sacrificed herself instead. it was her way of redeeming herself in her eyes for not being able to save javi back then. and i also don't fault misty for amputating ben's leg either; it was literally crushed underneath the weight of the plane and he could have died from infection had she not done that. the food being laced with mushrooms was mari's fault bc she put them in the food, misty wasn't responsible for that but i will say she was wrong for trying to use them for ben in the first place. i'm not the biggest fan of misty but it's easy to explain some of the more insane things she's done based on her actions and the desire to be valuable to the team.
misty's whole character is based off doing crazy shit so the other yellowjackets will rely on her when things look bleak/grim. she has sociopathic tendencies and is very delusional, but she's also fiercely loyal and that's why even when they don't want to, they still turn to misty for help/guidance. it's not hard to miss these things when you watch with an unbiased viewpoint.
And now I see why Nats on drugs
Resorting to dating Travis would have had me on hard drugs to cope too tbh.
@@sweeety969
Damn, he's not THAT bad🤣
@@tabithanel1975 he was that bad
@@nicolesamuels6276
I've seen a lot worse than a sexist teenage boy. Also, given that he killed himself, even years after the tragedy, I feel like they were all a WAY worse influence on him, than he was on them, ESPECIALLY Nat, in some weird way.
@@tabithanel1975 did you watch the show? he didn't kill himself.. found a travis defender on here damn I've seen it all
The fact that they waited for him to die just so they could pull him out. Damn.
Do you understand the context?
Hungry
Shauna and the redhead were already thinking about him as meat as he was dying.
Val
@@lion-dm4wc Van/Vanessa .. I agree 100%
well yeah they were starving
They were all brainwashed & losing their sanity. If they would've never gotten rescued they would've picked off each other one by one.
When I say I’m mad about what they did, Im not mad about the fact that they ate somebody I’m mad about the fact that they ate JAVI LIKE CMON 😭😭I was rooting for him to get tf outta there
Ik right?! I would've been happier (not in a sadistic way 😂) if it was like Mari, but not our precious boy Javi!
This episode made me soooooo mad. like why did they have to kill poor javi. It's just not fair...but better him than Natalie.
nat faked javi's death then had to see it actually happen. nat gave javi new gloves and had to see them while he died. this show is making my hair fall out.
And what did they eat then?
Reading these comments makes me sad lol. I’m so glad I have a formal education and I’m also not stupid. I enjoy media so much more since I’m able to effectively analyze it and don’t have any weird misogynistic or religious biases.
Good for you
Here take this
🥇
let’s get married i agree
They are too far gone at this point
people in this comments section when the fucked up teen cult show has fucked up teen cult behaviour: >:0000
LITERALLY 😭
Umm that’s the point of the show? We’re supposed to be upset at this.
The whole point of the show is that these are crazy psychopath teenagers. Youre supposed to hate them.
Yeah and people can still be mad about it!
people saying this is shitty writing bc their fave died😭 boy this writing felt so fresh and out of the box for tv. It's clever and picks at every emotion you have. THIS IS TV
Its sad as a society when we can celebrate violence against a child
Yup, bunch of cry babies in here wanting boring netflix shows that are all the same concept and style.
@@MayaClementines-rz5qw No one is happy that a kid character died. Everyone is happy that the narrative took a bleak turn that challenges the viewers' alliances to the characters knowing that they did terrible things. It's not easy soap opera entertainment where there's recognizable good and bad.
this whole sequence of events is so fucked -- deciding that they HAVE to save Lottie despite her practically being on her death bed (and despite her saying if she dies she wants them to eat her, showing she's kind of already accepted her fate). To me, and maybe this is the whole point, it feels like they are playing God, not the greater power they talk of. I do believe though that there's some higher power/supernatural thing going on, but still, I think it's very interesting how it's very half and half. The whole group screaming and howling like animals is insane, it really highlights just how animalistic these people have become. Also, I'm still so hung up on the fact that, besides Travis, the only hunter of the group and the only person who's really trying to find resources and food outside of, well, people, is the person who pulled the Queen card. Dude, the ONLY person who's making an active attempt to get food for everybody is the one who is going to become the food, that boils my fucking blood like I would pull that knife right out of Shauna's hand and run on all fours screaming and chasing them around the cabin. lol. Anyways. There so obviously could have been other ways, ANY OTHER WAY than setting up some "game" that determines your upcoming brutal death, and I know the winter is what's making their food situation near to impossible but I mean, I don't know man if you've all already lost all your humantiy to the point where this type of game even so much as enters your mind, just starve. Everybody who survives ends up bringing death back with them, whether it was a death of a relationship, or a literal murder. I mean this scene was just so fucked, let alone the fact that Nat's the character who had to fake Javi's death, sewed him gloves, and ends up watching him drown helplessly wearing said gloves. As much as I love this show it is causing physical pain to my heart, and rooting for the girls is becoming impossible, specifically their teen selves. I can't lie I am rooting for adult Misty, it's my fatal flaw. Jesus Christ I wrote so much. RIP Javi, you had like 18 lines this season but I loved you anyway!
edit: also Van shut the fuck up.
My guilty flaw is Shauna like her descend to madness is intriguing to me for the simple fact she was the quiet girl , always in Jackie’s shadow and seemed pretty mild mannered but in those woods something dark is coming out of her . I like Adult Misty but I lost all respect and blame her for most of the deaths because she destroyed the plane recorder box.
Such a great point !!!!!!!!!!!
I agree with the the Nat thing also, it infuriated me so much. Yes lets kill our best hunter...genius🤦
@@Cuttatv that was the flight recorder, not the location transmitter. That box was only for recording in-flight information for the purpose of determining the cause of the crash AFTER rescue. The tracker on that puppy only works underwater and besides if it had been a working tracker, they would have already been in the ballpark of being rescued by now.
I hate that they killed and ate Javi but to those who are confused, they are NOT portraying the main female leads as good people. They are messed up but we are led to understand what made them like that. They had to do what they had to to survive, they are clearly without mental wellness resources, and/or there may be a supernatural force out there influencing their actions. You're not supposed to think their actions are correct. Just because there are parts of them that are good DOESN'T mean the show is excusing their bad actions.
I HATE what they have become but because of the complexities of their characters, that makes for an interesting watch.
People get mad when women are portrayed as infallible and saintly (Mary Sue, they call it?) but when you make them nuanced and complex, you still get backlash.
Supernatural? Being stranded in the wilderness would make anyone fucking mental there’s not evil forces at play 😂
@@lisaconnelly5443
Towards the end of season two, and even a little in season one, there were hints that there was something supernatural there with them. I couldn't tell you what since it's been months since I finished watching it with my mom, but there definitely was something. Also, they didn't say that being stranded in the woods wouldn't drive you crazy, they just said that the supernatural vibes could've added to it.
Misty is the ultimate pragmatist. Javi is the youngest/smallest isn't as popular in the group hierarchy and can't hunt so she throws him to the wolfs by placing her bets on Nat. Always goes with the most powerful.
i thought he could hunt tho he literally survived like two months by himself lol and the coach found a bunch of bones in his hiding place
@@soobintheestalIionhe stole from the shed
@@soobintheestalIion like the other guy said, they were probably from the starlings that suicide bombed the cabin.
the comments bitching about how unlikable the girls are are ridiculous, it’s a show about cannibalism, did you expect them to have a moral compass?
Cannibals are sick
Who cares? Since when do people have to like cannibals???This scene pissed me tf off so bad and I hope misty gets her karma.
At least some of them, yes.
What they do have a moral compass…..they held out as long as they could….the literal alternative is they all die….and then you wouldn’t have a show to watch at all ….
@@onidoremc9490have you ever heard of those real life incidents where people got stuck in nature and had to resort to cannibalism? Those people still live today and probably have families, would you have rather they had starved and suffered because of your own moral compass?
This scene still haunts me, poor Javi…
Javi gives me regulus black vibes at this point
surprised to see another harry potter fan here 😭
Curious, why regulus black?
@@ExpectoPatronum28 they both died drowning at a very young age, that’s why
THE REGULUS COMMENT TOOK ME OFF GUARD BRO
i snorted, i did NOT expect that regulus comment 💀
Javi tried to help Nat after she left him for dead, this was the second time she left him to die when he was HELPING her survive. Its so disgusting javi survived alone for so long to be immediately killed by these girls.
Are you blind? She literally tried to help him but couldn’t bcuz they would kill her too?
I don’t get why they wanted to kill Natalie all bc of some dumb card game. She is the most useful along with Shauna.
Along with Misty and arguably Shauna. Like Misty is invaluable and so is Natalie, and while Shauna is lowkey replaceable in the time it would take to train her replacement they might as well just keep her and kill the replacement but yes, exactly. Some of them should not have been in that draw and it was dumb to put them in there to begin with. Like, what happens if another one gets knocked up and they've killed off Misty? Or next time there's a medical emergency?
Yeah...who came up with that stupid idea? Lol
Did you watch the show with eyes closed and ears closed???
@@greencheekconurestan5316 Could you explain the card game for me please? Cuz I really don't get it, I know they do it to survive that part I get it, but why they decided who to eat based on a card game? Is it maybe because it's more fair for all of the girls? So they eat whoever has the queen doesn't matter if their valuable or not for surviving in the wilderness?
@@aaronmoyano2340 they decided to let "the wilderness" (basically fate) choose, thinking if they paid tribute to the forces at play here, maybe they'll be kinder to them in the future, but considering it's not exactly like life was sunshine and rainbows when Lottie pledged the bear heart to the woods, I don't see how it could. But at this point they were deep into the cult and deep into insanity. I know people attribute that to Misty but she's pretty practical and pragmatic at the very least and she at least had her head screwed on straight when she rescued Natalie, if for nothing then for at least practicality's sake.
They did poor Javi so dirty 😢
This was the first scene in this show that really jarred me.
And not poor Jackie?
but jackie literally being eaten didn't..?
@@twiff3rino28poor? She died by herself, wasn’t killed or anything.
What is this comment section dude, sexism against women, sexism against men, people who are saying the characters are good people, people saying the characters are bad people and that the show has bad writing because the characters eat people even though thats kind of the point of the show, jesus.
Poor Javi :(
Y’all remember all this is Misty’s fault.
Never ever forgetting. I hope that bitch gets her karma soon.
To think that she could've been more of a hero, had she not destroyed the flight recorder and brought it to her teenage crush Coach Ben instead. I'd picture Misty being in a courtroom inside her mind, when her time comes. Walter as her defence counsel, Ben as the prosecution. With Crystal/Kristen as the star witness who pins Misty with her testimony. As the verdict is read out by the fore member of the jury (which in my opinion should be Jackie with Laura Lee presiding as the judge), Misty breaks down, becoming an emotional wreck as the weight of her misdeeds takes it's ultimate toll. Then an apparition of her younger self appears not as a form of comfort, but to further torment her by saying in a debasing tone of voice... "Don't cry Misty! Babies cry!". To which everyone in the courtroom repeatedly chimes the phrase... "Babies cry!" Misty then mentally plummets into an endless void screaming, as she takes her last breath on this earthly plane.
Ong
I highly doubt they would’ve been rescued even if she didn’t destroy the flight recorder. It’s not her fault but she’s still awful because of her intentions behind it. She’s the only Yellowjacket I genuinely despise
@@sweettooth4759 HUHHH?? OF COURSE ITS HER FAULT. a working black box means immediate rescue, they would’ve been found. they would’ve known where the plane was and they would’ve been found in a few days. it’s absolutely disgusting that she became selfish and insane and destroyed the black box so there’s absolutely NO HOPE of them getting found without sheer luck.
Good night, sweet prince
RIP Javi
Really well done. Will miss Luciano.
Sophie T was amazing in this scene.
Poor poor baby. They couldve 'saved' him, he woulve died of hypothermia within minutes anyway. They shoulve known that, at least the one with the glasses.
they were starving ..?
Now why y’all suddenly got shocked by this likeee . The plot already foreshadowed they literally mentioned multiple times that they did some really fucked up shit shit😭
What I don’t understand is why they chose to kill Natalie but yet didn’t want to eat Shauna unborn baby 😅 like that’s where they draw the line in craziness ?
I guess it was more of a moral thing 😭 no one wants to see a baby get eaten
@MaddieScenepacks besides it would've fed only like one person.
They were hinting at that so hard
@@MaddieScenepacks
But they don't mind eating the youngest person there?😅
@@tabithanel1975 Javi had more meat to provide. That sounds.. weird lmao. But like, they're all probably more willing to eat a fully-formed being than a stillborn, especially when the mother is still around.
The look that Van gives at 1:24 is chilling.
So to be clear…
They went crazy
Became cannibals
Misty destroyed they radios
…well all I can say is….DAMN…
yup that's pretty much the gist of it. the girls don't know misty destroyed the emergency transmitter box though so i think it'll be interesting to see how that plays out next season
@@jeonghanismThe only one that knows (Crystal) is dead. I can’t remember if they know in the present.
@@finfog4590 well i imagine they know crystal is dead since they went looking for her body but I don't think they know misty is the one who killed her in present day. there's a lot they don't know about her which i figure will unravel as the show progresses
@@finfog4590i think they know in the present, given how they reacted when misty showed up to help with adam.
@@jeonghanismit was the floght recorder, not the location transmitter. Flight recorder only transmits its location when underwater. It wouldn't have helped them get rescued. If it could have they would already have been rescued, because she wouls have just delayed the rescuers a bit, as it would have already been transmitting their location long enough for them to have a rough estimate of where they were.
Not the misogynists in the comments god forbid women can be morally grey 😭
This is why the show is for sapphics for a reason..
Lol yup! Why aren’t they making baby and sex??? 😡😡😡
Murdering and eating children isn't 'morally grey', wtf? Also, you're not a misogynist if you think that characters that happen to be women and who do reprehenisble things (like murdering and eating people, including innocent children) are reprehensible characters that deserve to be punished for their horrific actions. If you think this is excusable behaviour because the characters that commit them are women and that everyone who disagrees is a misogynist, there is something very wrong with you.
@@ArkhamAsylum1505
The way you put it, it may sound bad, but we are in a context where if they don't eat they will die of hunger, they don't enjoy them, their first objective was not to eat Javi, and hunting was something that everyone agreed on except for Lottie And Ben, they didn't murder Javi, he fell and would have died from the cold anyway
Now the misogyny thing is quite obvious, everyone blames the girls for eating Javi, but no one says anything about Travis.
@@ko890lo8 Travis is just as bad. They all deserve to rot in prison for the rest of their lives.
It looks like Van was ready to hit Javi in the head if he wasn’t completely dead. :/
@@demi8890ain’t karma a bitch😂 got what was coming for her
Wow, Nat faked Javi’s death then had to watch the real thing. Ugh.
traumatizing
The comments are taking this so seriously 😭
gen choosing not to chase nat is interesting
it's like the trolley problem - do you starve all the girls or kill one person
I would fucking fish
@@arnoldrimmer960it would be hard to catch that many fish. And they don’t have poles and string. The writing is horrible tho. They had a great show and ruined it.
@@santaclause3487
Yeah, season one was fucking amazing, but they totally dropped the ball with season two, like, from what I remember, we didn't even get to find out who was being chased in the very first scene of the show, even though that was the WHOLE MYSTERY that everyone (or me and my mom😅) was waiting for.
@@arnoldrimmer960
Bro, did you miss the part were the water was frozen solid? Like, it was LITERALLY in the video that we're commenting on.
Misty's carrying the ax she used to chop off Coach Ben's leg. After doing so she said "Help me move him!"
This time, she's preventing someone from being moved.
Do people realize that if Natalie continued to try and pull Javi out then they would both just be dead 💀
So it was ok for Javi to die first so that they pull him out? Doesn't make sense
@@clarakhasai7057 if you watched you’d know they did it as a sacrifice
@@clarakhasai7057 To those girls yes. They've literally just been waiting for someone to die so they could eat them. They are starving. For them Javi had to die in the lake before they could get him out.
The only young teens likable are Nat Javi and Travis. As adults, they’re a little likable. I think Van is great but she’s as demented as the rest. And Misty is simply there for chaotic humor
Misty annoyed me this season! Van.. to be honest I blame the writing because she's likable in the first season. Plus the adult actress for Van.. WHOA!
Taissa is pretty likeable as a teen too in my opinion, yes she joins in when the girls go feral but she never does anything significantly worse than the others unlike Shauna, Misty and Lottie lmfao.
I also found Jackie pretty likeable when she wasn’t talking shit about Natalie behind her back lmfao.
Oh Xitt. Javi takes the fall. Dude barely said anything in this season 😢
It’s like he came back only to further the plot by bringing the Queen of Hearts card, leaving some mystery drawings and become food. The whole season is just new or lost people showing up to be killed. Not sure if that’s bad writing or what.
@@wildmarjoramdieselpunk6396 The issue is we already know who makes it off the island. So we know who is going to die. It is just really a matter of when. With less people on the island, some of the other characters will be more fleshed out I would imagine and begin to play a larger role like we are beginning to see with Mari and Akylah.
@@wildmarjoramdieselpunk6396 yeah, I was confused when they just added in a bunch of random people and I hate the going back and forth thing because you can never make me think Nat will die as a kid, I see her as an adult lol
@@semperaugustus661 Island? They're not on an island. They are in the Canadian mountains.
@@PeterKuypers Oh yeah. Not sure why I put island.
people insulting the girls didnt understand shit about the whole concept of the show
That’s a bit of a stretch. The girls rarely do anything right. The survival “realism” is shotty at best and despite being stranded in the wilderness, they still focus on interpersonal drama.
Nice try.
@@ShaftCommanderwhen you're a teenager in the middle of nowhere with no drink no food barely clothed dont know if someone's gonna come and get you you pretty much lose your mind so yeah im not saying that it's 100% realistic but it's not unrealistic either
Yeah it a shit show of cannabilism 😂😂
@@ShaftCommander I think Season 3 is going to be VERY dark.
Most of the girls besides Natalie, Lottie and maybe Akilah are horrible people. Shauna and Misty especially were already fucked up before the crash and the wilderness brought out their worse qualities
Women in the comments: discussing the show and it’s themes
Men in the comments: trying to judge people starving to death/ being generally misogynistic from the comfort of their gaming chair
(Do you fellas have this same energy for Walter White/Homelander or do you guys just hate women?)
Yes, I do have the same feelings towards male characters that commit morally reprehensible acts. They are all morally reprehensible characters that deserve the worst possible karma. You can perfectly enjoy a story and wish that all the unhinged and evil characters from said story get what's coming to them in the end. I don't know why this is so hard to understand.
I hate that they killed and ate Javi but to those who are confused, they are NOT portraying the main female leads as good people. They are messed up but we are led to understand what made them like that. They had to do what they had to to survive, they are clearly without mental wellness resources, and/or there may be a supernatural force out there influencing their actions. You're not supposed to think their actions are correct. Just because there are parts of them that are good DOESN'T mean the show is excusing their bad actions.
I HATE what they have become but because of the complexities of their characters, that makes for an interesting watch.
People get mad when women are portrayed as infallible and saintly (Mary Sue, they call it?) but when you make them nuanced and complex, you still get backlash.
@@ArkhamAsylum1505Nothing wrong with how you feel about those characters so what OP said doesn't apply to you.
There are commenters around here though who seem to follow the logic that just because the main characters do bad things, it means the show is endorsing these actions. This completely forgoes the nuanced way of consuming fiction with complex characters that aren't saintly good.
The writing for Breaking Bad was better. Walter was at least sympathetic in the beginning. I hated the monster that he turned into.
And there is nothing "complex" about this show or these characters.
Who would be insane enough to believe the “wilderness” chose? Not me, I’m going my own way like coach Ben should. Just wander off and fend for myself. Not being around anyone that’s nucking futs over a card game and wants to kill your friends over it.
This scene is so hilariously hypocritical the way they are hunting down a friend but when Javi is in immediate danger and about to die, within seconds they suddenly panic and act worried? Well, except for Misty. 😂
Misty is a total psychopath.
Misty will more likely get hers once they find out she destroyed the tracking boxes.
@@robertsims7828 I hope she does.
@@robertsims7828 There's no way of them ever finding out. And she's way to smart now to tell them.
i knew Travis was gonna eat his brother from the beginning
y’all are so annoying. if the season ended w most of the plot finished and solved all of y’all would be like “the next season is just for more money” but they have actual plot still not fully explored and y’all are complaining? everyone these days just love to complain ab anything
Finally a smart comment
"Wait, wait" Ugh I hate Shauna so much
Why because she was literally starving to death?
@@deltasweetashoney8880 she should have starved to death. If she had, Adam would be alive. Shauna also caused Jackie’s death and started eating her before the others noticed. If Shauna had died probably all the girls would have lived AND Adam.
@@themidnightmotel all the girls would not have survived if shauna was the one to die for 1. They still would’ve had to resort to cannibalism and let’s be for real Jackie probably would’ve been first because she would’ve never wanted to participate or she’d die from starvation, 2. Shauna is the main BUTCHER she’s a vital part of the group for their survival compared to Jackie who did jack shit the whole time she was alive other than failed moral support. and bringing up Adam as a point makes no sense considering I can also make the point that ‘Jeff committed black mail which resulted in Adam’s death so if he died he would’ve let all the next people live (Adam, Nat, Kevyn).
@@deltasweetashoney8880 Jackie didn’t die because she was refusing to pitch in, she died because she had an argument with Shauna about sleeping with her bf and getting pregnant. Shauna literally killed Adam so I don’t understand how bringing up Adam makes no sense to you.
@@themidnightmotel Jackie died because she was a spoiled brat thinking she's the main character of this planet.
Javi was my fav character. But like unironically I kinda hate season 2. This made no sense to me. Javi is the smallest and has the least meat and is just a fucking kid. Misty knows the couch is suicidal. They know that Crystal's body is out there. Why tf is Misty okay with this now. Why tf did they just switch. Why is Shauna okay with them choosing Natalie over Lottie. This switch felt to quick and I real don't like it. Crystal was the best part of season 2 tbh. But for me season 1 had so much more going on from start to finish. Season 2 just drags on and when I need it to slow down is when it is suddenly to quick. Call me a pussy but the death of Javi was legit to much for me. If he died a seperate way maybe I could get it. But this pisses me off.
It make’s perfect sense why they left Javi die instead of killing Nat. For starters, “the wilderness chose.” Since he fell and would certainly die without help, they could absolve themselves from their part in his death. Second, he wasn’t very useful and only served as a distraction, but most importantly, they didn’t have a personal relationship with Javi before the crash so leaving him to his fate was preferable than killing their actual friend. Why not Lottie or Ben? Because Lottie is the hope of the group which is necessary for survival. As for coach Ben, they have a better relationship with him than Javi and he wasn’t there when it went down.
Cuz does a hunt without violence feed anyone remember? Lol
@@HandmaidsTaleComingForUsAll I just wish they tried ice fishing, tried to find crystal or like convinced the suicidal couch.
@@HandmaidsTaleComingForUsAll like I know Javi is less important and it makes sense overall why him. But it just felt really rushed.
@@HandmaidsTaleComingForUsAll Also Shuana is against Lottie. So why tf is she on board with this shit
"The wilderness chose" 😂😂😂how demented can you be you bitches killed him!
LMAO
Well, they didn't save him. Is that murder?
@@natalie651uh yeah
@@natalie651yes, yes it is. They watched him die, even prevented nat from saving him
@@souptime8017 That's basically murder. At least Nat tried to save Javi but Misty's crazy ass *HAD* to stop her.
why did it have to be javi ☹️☹️☹️
Becuz his character sucked. Although he has little meat to him so
acabo de terminar la serie y me dolió mucho su muerte
Javi! It's what's for dinner!
Javioli
Shauna is evil.
Asi es , ella es horrible
she’s a starving teenage girl who’s baby died? you try being her
@@carolinaperez8182be fr
People who call girls crazy or bad should go see superhero movies or children's movies where everything is morally correct, they should not watch a series that deals with cannibalism and where the characters will do everything they can to live.
They weren't crazy, they were rotten little shits before the crash. I don't need characters that are "morally correct", but these characters are all shallow and one note. Not sympathetic at all.
@kellyvanspybrook4746 completely agreed. If this person supports misty and the rest they are very stupid 🙄
@@sarapinkdiamond866 I don't support Misty's actions, but it can be understandable what fear and being insecure makes you do, now speaking of the "others" they really haven't done any really bad actions, in the hunt everyone agreed except Lottie and Ben (because they were not there) it was with the consent of everyone and none of them refused, they knew that they would die of hunger if they did not eat and previously they tried to do everything possible to look for food, we cannot blame them for that situation, you may not like them their actions or the characters, but many of their actions are understandable
@@kellyvanspybrook4746 Why do you say they were little shits before the accident? We hardly know about the characters before that and the only ones with questionable attitudes were Shauna, Taisa and Travis, but even with that none of them did anything really serious (Taisa's behavior towards Ellie was not intentional) and practically nothing is known about the others. nothing, you're just saying unfounded things
@@ko890lo8soooo fear makes you destroy a air plan tracker? No one did anything bad? They wanted to ice a girl out because she sucks at soccer then broke her leg, literally only one girl was not cool with icing her out. Oh right cheating with your best friend boyfriend is also super sweet, I love the show but to sit there and say “most of the girls are not selfish, and are not little shits” now that’s just being ignorant
The same strength they used to pull him out when dead they could have used to pull him out when he was struggling 😡😡
They wanted him to die so they could eat him them freaking about him sinking wasn’t guilt but the fact they would lose their food supply
@@ipukeglitter435 I did not complete watching it actually that's where I lost interest completely
@@clarakhasai7057 lol why would that make you lose internet? It had me like 😮🍿
Fr
@@ipukeglitter435 damn
I was shocked when natalie watch javi die. I Thought she was braver and better than that.
Idk if you noticed but there is a group of 8 girls with weapons about to kill her
@@lamb9770 Idk if you notice but javi didnt have to help and risk his life but he did. And in return she acted like a coward to save her own ass a d watched him him die as he begs to her.
@@beachbeauties4385 It’s so funny because literally everything about Nat’s character contradicts your claim of being a “coward.” If anything she’s the bravest one there. She’s the one going out daily risking her life to find food but still was willing to die to feed the group. When she first drew the card she accepted it. She made Shauna look her in the eye before she died. She was going to die for the group until Travis gave her a chance to live. Javi wasn’t really risking his life to save her since he wasn’t being hunted. As soon as he fell in that ice it was over for him. The girls saw that as the wilderness offering a sacrifice so they didn’t have to kill Nat. No one was going to help her and she couldn’t get him out. The second she tries to save him again they’re just going to kill her as Misty explicitly says in the scene. She chose survival just like everyone else would. It was an impossible situation and she realized in that moment she didn’t want to die. It’s so easy to sit in the safety of your home and make all these self righteous claims about what should be done in this scenario but realistically you have no idea how you’d handle it :)
She tried to help and is also just a child
@@lamb9770 calm down fangirl. Even she admitted that she is worse than all of them but you are still making exuses for her 😂
Can't believe Natalie just sat there and watched him die when he went out of his way to try and save her. So messed up. And she'll probably lie to Travis on how he really died.
he drowned. that’s how he died. she couldn’t lift him up by herself so he drowned. that’s literally what happened.
@@vagour745 No. She stopped helping him.
@S They pulled her off of him. She knew even if she tried she couldn't lift him up by herself. What was the point? Use up all of her strength and freeze her arms up on the very small chance she could save him on her own? It was FUCKED up but Nat doesn't deserve the hate here.
She was trying to help and was in shock.
@@12torono tf she wasn’t in shock😂😂😂😂 she literally watched him die because she didn’t want to be sacrificed 😂😂😂😂
I think I'm scared to van now
i hate her ever since she basically told travis to get over it and just eat his brother cuz she knows if it was tai she’d be screaming crying trying to beat everyone up n shit
@@soobintheestalIionholy shit im with you. I have a brother, hes my best friend in the world and if some bitch told me to get over him being cannibalized there is nothing that will stop me from scalping that bitch.
0:54 *IT'S COLD!*
Breakfast 😂
I found Javi was a forgettable character and not that interesting. I was surprise he would return (for like one episode) in the second season, and just found he made little impact in this season and there was no point in keeping him on the show (no hate to the actor - he's a good actor). I was really surprise how dark his death was and feel bad that Natalie had to witness it and she could have saved him.
Wow your comment is revealing. Art imitates life. In life there are always forgettable uninteresting characters; they don’t ever deserve this.
I didn’t find Javi interesting but his death still made me sad, to be drowning while an entire group of people watch you slowly die knowing you will die and be cannibalized is an unimaginably hopeless feeling
@@xAlphaBxtch living nightmare I would be traumatized scarred for life I could never live with myself the guilt would eat me alive
@@wln8888 agree but we've been that stuff like this tends to happen in history, to the regular, defenseless person and this person goes forgotten in time. Like the young girl who was cannibalized by the 17th century Jamestown Settlement. They is no documentation of her sacrifice, not even her real name. They didnt leave a trace of her real identity despite the fact she kept them feed. She didnt deserve it, yet it happened and she was forgotten almost to time if it wasn't for finding her body. Javi will most likely do the same to hide to evidence they killed and ate him.
@@syd1764 and when you know better; you do better, you know ? Javi deserves to be remembered, recognized, and seen. We don’t have to keep playing out old patterns.
The writers need to step their game up or they will be losing viewers. The synopsis is great. I love the idea and even the actors & actresses are great ! But the story line is just so outta whacked and makes it’s confusing to follow along. Like they keep making more questions instead of answering some then asking more. I loved the finale yet disappointed cause a lot of questions didn’t get answered in 2 seasons !
I agree. Season two was not that great and I don't know if I am going to continuing watching if there will be a third season.
@@everglowblink9805 Im only watching until coach ben dies, I cant root for any of the main girls as i agree wholefully with coach Bens opinion on murdering and eating children
What questions didn't get answered?
@@theMcWOPPER I had to make time to respond to this. Okay so first is, the wilderness? Tai & Lottie are in some way connected to the wilderness. Because bad Tai can find the symbols on the tree and when the bad side asked how’d they know about the symbol it tried to kill her by making walk off a cliff had it not been for Van saving her.
#2 Why is the wilderness choosing to bother them 25 yrs later ? Someone had to summon it ? It’s been 25 yrs why is it returning to stir up trouble ?
#3 when they ended I think s1 episode 6 after Lottie killed the bear and offered the wilderness it’s heart . She said, “ let the darkness set us free.” So in a way like Misty stated she started this crap.
#4 Did the group ever find out that Misty destroyed the flight recorder box ?
#5 wtf is up with Shauna ? I love adult Shauna but in her teens why tf she all of sudden has a thirst for blood when there wasn’t any signs she had “darkness” within her. I mean sleeping with your best friends boyfriend then getting knocked up by him is hard but not darkness like Tai & Lottie
@@Cuttatv Shauna was shown to be quite aggressive and odd before the crash; she tried to fight Tai, she had a chip on her shoulder when it came to Jackie, she forced Jeff to say he loves her, etc. I'd call her a sociopath but then again she did show empathy towards Tai when she confided in her about sleep walking, but that could've just been a necessary step for her to gain an ally/confidant while out there, because after she catches lottie talking to her baby she gets mad at Tai saying she's supposed to be her friend and be on her side etc. Idk Shauna is a strange character, very hard to understand. One thing I do know is that she's smart asf and very aware, her and Tai seem to be the only ones not being totally brainwashed by that wilderness sacrificial crap, Tai is in it for van and Shauna just knows that she's outnumbered and if she doesn't play along she'll be an outcast like Jackie was which could be dire. I can't think of a time I've heard her get involved in the crazy talk, we've only heard her speak against it to Tai when she makes it clear she thinks the other girls have lost the plot.
🌟 Realmente odié la manera que lo dejaron morir, él la estaba ayudando y ella simplemente lo vió morir ahí...
La alternativa era que la matarán a ella por salvarle, de igual manera quiero creer que están afectadas por el hambre no quiero creer que simplemente el guión es malo o que son idiots ( por qué si te vas a lo más práctico era salir a cazar todas las más fuertes o seguir buscando los restos de cristal o simplemente no acabar con los únicos que sabían usar el rifle 🤡 , si la única alternativa fuera esa el maestro habría sido la opción o la loca lottie que ya había dado su consentimiento)
@@isaachernandez2715 Y además del hambre gracias a lottie todas creen que la Naturaleza o The wilderness es la fuerza que escoge quién las alimenta pero yo sinceramente siento que en la temporada 3 se nos va a revelar que en realidad ellas escogian, ojo no digo que la fuerza de la naturaleza no sea real, no afirmo ni niego nada de eso, pero de lo que si estoy seguro es que las víctimas y todo aquel que murió para que ellas se alimentasen fue absolutamente la culpa de todas, no de la naturaleza. Y si no pasa en la temporada 3 entonces en la 4 jajaj porque los creadores quieren hacer una temporada completa con ellas tratando de ajustarse a la nueva normalidad después de ser rescatadas.
of all of them, who is Murderous
2.Monsterous
3.Malevolent
4.Cruel
5.Devilish
6.Short Tempered
7.Terrifying
8.Scary
9.Horrifying
10.Sadistic
11.Heartless
12.Creepy
13.Crude
14.Sophisticated
15.Disgusting
16.Dangerous
17.Sinful
18.Satanic
19.Deceptive
20.Manipulative
21.Angry
22.Insane
23.Crazy
24.Psychotic
25.Demonic
26.Repulsive
27.Violent
28.Nasty
29.Evil
30.Wicked
31.Abusive
32.Hateful. who has all of these characteresticstics?
Shauna?
@@AbstractEntityJ i use to think it was misty. Now I think it's shawna. she fits all if not most of these characteristic, I can't wait for her demise or death.
nobody
@@user-gx6un6xg5v jeff deserves something better fr
Travis is not sophisticated so not him IG but he's a lot of the other shit..
Anybody know why or how they all have winter coats?
Didn’t they find clothes left behind in the cabin??
they're not winter coats, they're regular jackets with many layers of clothing underneath, the only real winter coat is the one Travis wears and they found it in the cabin
Honestly, I didn't like it, but not because it "impressed" or "shocked" me. It's just that with each episode, everything becomes more no-sense.
When Shauna and Jackie had their argument, even though it was a "simple" argument, everyone sided with Shauna and agreed to exclude Jackie.
So why is it that now, when Shauna puts Lottie in a coma, no one says anything to her?
Why randomly choose someone when they could have chosen Shauna, who was the reason Lottie was about to die?
Honestly, it all seems no-sense to me. The only possible explanation is that they believe the sacrifice must be ritualistic and chosen randomly, but even in that case, it all seems illogical.
i get that, but they’re also a bunch of teenagers starving and experiencing delusions, so we can’t really expect them to make the smartest of decisions.
also i think they let shauna beat up lottie cause the power dynamics between the group are shifting but ido
Plus ages the fastest why pick someone so thin over the best pick we need fast to survive.
Youre not WATCHING the show. Jackie was an outcast at that point, her death wasn't planned but they still contributed to the reason she died even if it was an accident. And by the time Javi died, he was also an outcast. Lottie told the group that Shauna needed to get it out and to let her, to kill Shauna after Lottie sacrificed her health would be insane. Also Shauna still has worth to the group, she is the butcher the one who is making their food.
Javi didnt have any worth to the group, the wilderness seems to pick the ones who are outcasts. He had been missing what two three months by this point, he missed all the hardships they've faced during the winter, he seemed to have a "friend" who isn't in the group. They pick from the cards and Natalie was chosen from the cards, but to them Javi was picked by the wilderness as he was the one who fell into the lake.
If you watch these girls outcast the ones who are of no use in their minds, Ali in the first episode was cast out even before the plane crash happened, the only reason she was spared from the crash. Jackie was sulking around after the crash. We can assume now that we are seeing what these girls think they are seeing in their current states, yes unreliable but that is how they are seeing this.
@@syd1764 Just because I don't share your exact perception and opinion of a TV series doesn't mean I haven't watched it or haven't paid attention.
While I understand your reasoning to some extent, it still doesn't convince me. Natalie is also crucial: she was basically the one responsible for procuring food (except for the snow issue), which Shauna then butchered.
Based on your reasoning, the coach should have been the one to be sacrificed at this point in the story.
Honestly, I can't fully agree with you, even though I do agree with certain aspects (especially the whole "wilderness" concept). However, as it stands, I believe Yellowjackets is more of a visually appealing series rather than one with profound meaning. I don't see a logical progression or consistency; it feels more like an excuse to explore the girls' descent into madness, particularly Shauna. And honestly, I'm fine with that because, even though it's not a "serious" series, it's still enjoyable
Killing Shauna would make what Lottie did worthless and would make no sense.
y wouldn’t they save him
To eat him afterwards. Someone had to sacrifice
Javi was a sacrifice the wilderness demanded
The white writers demanded. Moral of the story of white women lives matter
@@MayaClementines-rz5qw
there is literally multiple poc characters in the background are you an idiot just trying to make everything about racism. Get out of here dude
The wilderness did not demand anything. These girls were just flat-out deranged.
This show could have been really good. Writers ruined it.
I was pretty disappointed in season 2.
Omg right! So much of the writing felt so contrived and unnatural. The only thing I liked about this season was how it showed that most of girls are truly evil, which season one didn’t really reveal.
yeah, it’s definitely overhyped
Can you do Travis and Javi scene pack
I really don’t care if they all die now 😅
… which is why I wanna keep watching… I’m curious
to paraphrase spinster in the first live tmnt, when they die, it will be a dishorable death
Yeah, they all deserve horrible fates after what they did.
@@ArkhamAsylum1505what would would you do differently? Starve?
@@futuristicgirl14 Eating people who are already dead or murdering children to eat them are two very different things. The fact that you seem to think that this normal behaviour even in this situation is very worrisome. And thinking that the combination of murder and cannibalism is morally reprhensible isn't 'incel behaviour´. I would have said the same if the characters were all men. If you entertain the thought of murdering people, let alone children, and act on it, you have no place in society.
@@ArkhamAsylum1505these people should read about the 2 guides the donner party had…at least with the uruguayan flight they agreed if they died to use their bodies.
Incels so mad 😂😂😂😂
Stopped by out of curiosity as to where this show went. I watched a couple of episodes in the beginning then passed. Just thought it was to slow and didnt like the flashback format. I think it would have been better to just show the past then move to the future in season 2. To me the flash back and forth dragged it out to long. was boring.
same. I think this series have a lot of good elements and actresses to be awesome, but somehow they manage to make it boring, specialy with them as adults
@@patriciac.a.1614 It's not boring at all. And it's very popular so idk your opinions don't matter
Actually, i think the whole second plot in the future is kinda cool, keeps our attention, or atleast mine, cause you have to focus on both plotlines.
Last few episodes completely screwed this series for me. Plot has more holes than Swiss cheese, and the writers just keep expecting you to swallow it.
Isn’t that the luxury the directors and writers have though ? This isn’t science, it’s entertainment, smoke screen and illusion.
I was disappointed though too and know what you mean. We were left to jump to far too many conclusions which may have been the point if they were trying to showcase what severe trauma does to memory and a person over time. Severe trauma destroys the brain and nervous system. Memories can be muddled.
@@wln8888 interesting interpretation, but I think you're being far too generous. This is just incredibly lazy, nonsensical writing. It was actually pretty crazy to see a show crater out of nowhere like that.
@@holden6104 just a theory …. I see your points.
@Wearing Yellow to a Funeral beating up Lottie almost to death and nobody giving a shit, only to turn around next episode and KILL someone so that she can live because she's a goddess or something? The coach being the "moral" authority by refusing to eat humans, but somehow he is fine with murdering everybody by burning the cabin? How about the whole idea of Lottie being a goddess worshipped by all, when all she's delivered is one bear and a bunch of lousy birds, AND the fact that she failed the test? And despite this, suddenly everybody's a damn cultist for this "presence" in the woods? That's just off the top of my head...shall I go on?
Why natalie didnt help and watch him die? to save her own ass or wasnt strong enough to pull him out?
Misty told her if she helps him they will eat her
It was him or her. They weren’t going to let her live otherwise
Realistically she could never pull him out on her own, and none of those girls were helping: the survivors guilt is that she stopped trying when she realized if he lived she died
Both - she wasn’t strong enough to pull him out alone because drenched winter gear is extremely heavy, so she asked for help. But when Misty pulled her back & basically told her “it’s him or you,” Nat knew she was right and stopped trying.
Are you stupid?
The men were the only ones who didn't become brutal savages. I wonder if the writers did that intentionally..
Your acting has if travis didn’t eat his little brothers heart
@@oopmaster6849 yeah but he never turned feral, chasing people through the woods.
@@joem3502 or maybe it's more like a pack of lions where the lionesses do the hunt and the men just take their share
@@christiangarcia9245 Sure look at all the rapists and child human traffic, pornaddicts and phedos out there, all female...
Oh wait...
@@joem3502 No he rather feed on the prey without doing any work...
This sucks lol
First
Show is awful
Males 🍼
@@cryptochrome3090 did you just assume my gender? That is sexist and transphobic, you’re sexist and transphobic!!
@@dcfan4life953and you’re pathetic and single
@@cryptochrome3090 did you just assume my gender??
this show is awesome