What did you think of this episode? Lottie's vision was extremely interesting... it's going to be sad seeing Travis go through that grief all over again! Comment your thoughts below! 🐝
Javi’s death was so hard to watch because you could tell in Nat’s eyes that she wanted to help him so badly. And to see how hunger has effected the girl’s minds so much is scary. I agree though about the howling. I felt like that came a little too soon and felt cringe and out of place.
I Hated the Episode; I mean what a way to make Humankind Look so Weak-I mean the youngest boy that tried to risk their life & save sum1 dies 4 sum1 (natalie) to be self-serving which is the caustic monster that is literally killing society: people being: self-serving & not wanting to help others that need gelp 😫😢😭
They were making animal noises since season 1 doomcoming. It's just another version of their Buzz Buzz Buzz chant. One person in the group does something and the rest follow, it's just being teenagers
I understand why Nat is suicidal now. It’s one thing to have survivor’s guilt if you did everything you could and someone died, it’s another if you killed him. And this is her soulmate’s brother who she’s already lied about being dead. No relationship no matter how strong the affection could survive that.
One thing I don’t get is why they are all so protective of Shauna She is deranged and she betrayed Jackie. The fact that they treated Jackie so harsh but treat Shauna preciously,really blows my mind Also I think that Melanie Lynskey is not a good cast to play a psychopath . she really looks like a good person and that’s killing the vibe for me
I think the casting is perfect. The good and friendly demeanour she gives off messes with our minds. Anyone can be evil, and the fact she can mask it with an innocent looking face is amazing. It makes us believe that anything awful she does we can forgive her because she doesn’t look evil lol. I hold the same sentiment for her character in The Last of Us.
As a teenager, back in high school, Shauna tried to direct Jeff away from her and back to Jackie. He persisted. It's not just that he got sex from her; he has been in love with her from start to finish. We assumed for a long time that he'd had to marry her because of the pregnancy, but that's not the case. Shauna wasn't as bad a friend as it seems. That said, she is deranged... but she comes by it honestly.
I think they had to disassociate (when they ran after Nat), almost like they were animals because she is their friend. Which is why they were howling and treating this like a hunt. It is all very haunting, for sure.
The problem is that they fucked up the transition... It was WAY too forced and quick. They were all normal girls loving eachother and out of the blue, they have this card game where they decide to kill someone, which is extremely random, they never talked about killing eachother, ever, and they start hunt like grownling dog, again something they've never come close to doing before. We knew they were gonna turn crazy violent, but the transition into this madness was so sooo poorly executed. Just thrown at us with no thoughts or progression that make sens.
@@OncleJer yeah it could throw down the whole series Like suddenly a New director this make this IT does Not fit they could have done so many Things Like Look for crytsals Body.
@@Daniel-lq5qq Yes... I honestly have no idea wtf they did there... I was super invested in the show, loved everything. This thing was such a throw off, so rushed, as if production realized they dragged their "sane" moments too much and had to create the descent into madness as soon as possible. I was so hyped by the expectation of seeing their progression into the violent cult, but the way it was just thrown into our face is a major let down.
Great review! This episode reinforces why Natalie is my favorite character. I can’t imagine how she will function around all of them in the finale after literally hunting her like a pack of wolves. Every group needs a leader and Shauna & Lottie are substandard. I miss Jackie.
I think someone else will take the blame, If you watched the promo for episode 9, you can see Walter hugging Misty while there are cop cars in the bakcground
@@Marie-rq2gp I saw that. Also, in this episode, when Walter was going into his coat closet, did he take a purple coat of Misty's with him? Wasn't that the purple coat she was wearing at first on their road trip? I wld have to go back and check. Maybe for DNA reasons?! I think Walter might be Adam Martin's best friend that needed the bone marrow transplant
@@karmaklutz That "friend bone marrow" thing is good, but I don't think so. He looked genuinely surprised the police found Adam, and if he was that friend, he would know the police wanted to test his bone marrow for Adam's DNA. Also, I'm pretty sure he emailed the police so he can trick mustache cop and kill him (the body he asks Jeff to help with).
I don;t know why they are all listening to Lottie so much. I don't buy the fact that she has all the answers and we must sacrifice one life to protect another. It's BS
They are starving and traumatized. They are experiencing group psychosis. You don’t understand it because you haven’t experienced it. Be grateful for that.
Next week’s episode is the last episode of the season. Only 9 episodes this season. I also agree that they didn’t feel much hesitancy in trying to kill Nat, especially after she tried to get them food for so long. I guess that’s what they wanted us to see, that it doesn’t matter now.
I think they are just numb now like when Shauna beaten the crap out of Lottie last episode. They just watched in silence. Not much emotions left in them but hunger.
@@ashley.taylor174 I agree! I understand Shauna needed to “let it out”, but they definitely let her go too far, like they access to medical care out there. I also see a lot of passive aggressive behavior too, like the comment one of the girls made when Shauna took the blanket to give to Lottie, she’s says “oh now you care about Lottie”. Clearly people did not like this “cathartic” beat down but they said nothing and did nothing to intervene. And all of the other little snarky comments made by the other girls about things that occurred well before they expressed any issue with it. Some of its just teenagers being teenagers and living under tough conditions, but a lot of passive aggression.
@@cannontt92 when Nat arrives at Lottie's compound and Lottie is showing the beekeeping area and then later has a vision of all the bees dead and covered in blood. S2 E3 or 4
i think a reason a lot of people are disappointed with this episode is because their decision to commit to this act (i.e. the cards and the hunt) seemed so sudden and almost anticlimactic. it was maybe the editing but it felt very choppy. we were presented the scene of misty relaying to the others what lottie said about not letting her body go to waste if she dies…..and then tai saying they need to figure out a way to survive without lottie (as if lottie is essential to their survival (unlike nat who’s a hunter) outside of giving them hope/resolve) cut to…the card drawing scene???? i feel like we were owed at least a discussion of sorts? maybe there was a scene that was cut? it just felt jarring. in hindsight if you look at the state of their sanity in the beginning of the episode, hell even the beginning of this season, it’s understandable why they are resorting to such lengths so early. i don’t think this was a bad episode by any means at all. i think this is one of my more favorite eps of the season, especially in terms of momentum.
Yes, extremely choppy and out of place. They were normal, scared teenagers and they just flipped a switch and turned into murderous hounds? So forced and out of place... 0 transition into the madness, just a full on 180 with no explanation, what a mess this episode is...
Anyone else just absolutely baffled at the idea of the poison cup roulette in the present day? Like what is killing off one of them now going to for the group? Lmao Lottie was like “NAT you almost killed yourself” and then just casually prepares a suicide ritual for the group. Also, didn’t love how after Nat picks the queen card the entire group just so quickly turns on her. Wish they would have built that up a little more and I wish there was more dialogue when it comes to the cannibalism aspect of the show. It’s such a savage thing to do and it just seems like everyone is just low key cool with it and no one ever really brings it up. Like it’s just mutually agreed upon without anyone ever really saying anything. Young Shauna’s morals seemed to have taken a complete 180 turn as well. All season she has been so against Lottie and her little “wilderness cult” but now I guess she’s all for it
Whew this episode !!!! I found the irony in how javi passed !! Same place as deer and Nat being the one pulling trying to save him. Being in starvation mode for sure triggered them this episode especially allowing the wilderness to choose Nat given the fact that she hunted and provided food while there. I feel like Walter is the bone marrow donor that’s going to tie that body to Adam. Great episode love the show!!! Always leaves my mind going 🤍
I have thought for the last couple of episodes that it is possible that there were other survivors from the crash who are living in the warm cave Ben found. The bones are the missing body of Misty's friend. Someone else ate her, as Javi couldn't have. I think there will be a big reveal that there is another group surviving out there.
The Javi scene was heartbreaking! I was so happy to see Nat and Travis have that scene together and then that had to happen. Then finding the underground Cavern is very exciting and I can't wait to find out what the hell is going on. Also what is going on with Walter!? Is he team Misty or against her!? Can't believe there's only one episode left this season
Someone shared an interesting theory on the TV Time app: That the symbol which has become synonymous with the show, could actually be hiding a hidden meaning right under our noses. Seeing it on the tree by the entrance to the cave inside, it could also perhaps be a map over the mines underground. And the dripping sounds that Mari keeps hearing could be coming from down there as well, or yeah, that could also just be a hallucination like Akilah's mouse being alive, and there might not me any hidden passageways underground, and the tree might just be hollow without more mines - but I'm curious as to where the heat is coming from then
this episode more than any other really cemented the supernatural element of this show. when you see lottie’s eyes opening after javi’s death… that’s just one too many coincidences for the supernatural element of this show to be “ambiguous” 😭
The show shld have 10 episodes, I feel like we need more info bc its gonna bee a LOOOOONG TIME UNTIL S3... The teens dont want to listen to teen Lottie but they resort to this behavior?! Un-fuckin-believable Also, the part where Lottie wants the women to be posioned...CULT! C'mon seriously? W..t...f....is going onz
Both Shauna and Taissa are mothers. Are they seriously not thinking of their kids? Come on. I love the show but I find that bit much to drink poison drinks.
@@naturistfred I dont even think the writer's know some of these answers yet. I kinda think they read the fan comments and then disprove some of them on purpose to keep up the intrigue. Example: Adam Martin was originally Javi. There are soooo many theories out there now that someone out there is right about, I just hope the writer's pick a lane, stay in it, amd drive it home! 5 seasons total, so we got a ways to go yet. I just hope we get to see the 8th survivor bc I want to see scenes from when the teens survived, AND I wld also love to see scenes from when they were all just teens b4 the crash and get more backstory into the main characters. I mean, I guess they gave us a glimpse, but I need a tiny bit more... Once the 8th survivor is revealed, depending on who it is will be another whole bag of bones to deal with
@@naturistfred I don’t think they have a genuine bond with their kids or anyone. They became numb back during wilderness time and their PTSD keeps them numb in their adulthood.
One question I have, if Van knows she only has a few months to live, why wouldn't she willlingly take the poison. Hell, If I had cancer and someone was offering me a dose of phenobarbitol I'd snatch all those glasses and quaf every last one. As for the wolf behavior when hunting Nat, I think behaving like an animal and divorcing yourself from your humanity would be the only way to commit such an act. In fact the only one who did not behave like an animal was Misty, she remained perfectly rational. I think this is because she's the real culprit behind everything. She was bullied in HS and this is her long-term revenge.
Agreed when it comes to how dark this shiz is becoming! I have a feeling that our season finale is going to really be a BANGER! We may even get to see where the 1996 group constructs the ritual that the pilot opens with! ^..^
I think what we fail to realize a lot watching this show is that everything is up for grabs. People are constantly hallucinating and starving ? Nobody is a reliable narrator we have no idea what’s really going on and that’s done on purpose .
I'm so glad so many youtubers including you are realizing how sick Shauna is. She has been a toxic and deeply disturbed person since the first episode. Glad Lynsky is such a phenomenal actress as she makes me want Shauna to survive or stay out of jail. But her character is one of the most despicable. Example - last episode 7 she lied and told Misty that Adam attacked her - which is a lie. I think there have to be SERIOUS consequences for Shauna and I suspect she is going to lose Callie. Her breakdown to Lottie was very one-sided. She essentially told Lottie that she doesn't feel anything for her daughter in episode 7. Lottie had a very strange look. Then in the circle in episode 7 - Shauna says she may be repressing things - so she may have repressed that she almost killed Lottie. Not sure if Lottie has forgetten. Then the call at the end of Season 7 with Shauna aksing if Callie was okay. So I think Callie is the sacrifice and I think Lottie will be the one to kill her. Perhaps Jeff and Callie come to visit Shauna. Perhaps Callie ends up drinking the tea by mistake - paralleling her dad saying she needed something stronger to take everything away before revealing the baby and how fucked up her Mom is. Jeff is clearly very close to Callie right now and incredibly protective - storywise for those characters losing Callie opens up the show to such new heights in Season 3.
Walter is related to one of the prior yellow jackets victims. And Coach Ben I think for his own safety sake is still living in the woods in Javi's little secret area
They didn’t show us how they really came up with the idea of the card. They had to all have agreed 100% to accept their fate which is why they had no problem chasing their friend. They knew they’d be killing a friend no matter what. Maybe the adults will dive in to that choice they agreed to when they were starving. Maybe not. I hope so otherwise the writers are missing on some real character depth good writing and just being lazy.
They showed us, though. They've been using the cards to sort out chores since the start of the season, Misty and Crystal were always complaining about picking the "bad" cards.
The Javi scene was so sad! I cried cause i don’t think that should have been how he should have left. He was going to show Natalie a spot to be safe and he was asking for her help. I couldn’t live with myself seeing that. Now the Natalie and Travis drama is back on. They just reconciled!! Should have been a different ending.
@@BrainPilot I just thought they should have kept him on a little bit longer to find out “his friend”. If they were so hungry why didn’t Misty just tell them about crystal? Just so many “ugh” moments 😢
This season is pretty... Mid compared to s1. First of all that cop groomed an underage kid for info and even bought her alcohol... That's entrapment. Then they broke into the motel room where Shauna and the big guy faked an ahem session, they had no warrant to go in there as far as we've been shown. Any lawyer worth money would have this case and evidence thrown out in a court of law
i slightly disagree with the analysis that the girls didnt choose with the cards and that the wildnerness chose javi itself. the reason the wilderness chose javi is because he was trying to rob it of its allotted sacrifice, aka nat, by showing her to sanctuary
I've just finished binge watching the entire series for the first time, knowing very little about it, and one thing that's obvious is that absolutely nothing -- so far -- is supernatural. It's all implied through creepy music and camera moves, hunger, and the twisted minds of teenage girls in general. A lot of the secrets to this show can be gleaned through retrofitting -- i.e., looking at what the writers very carefully have constructed to mislead us. Even with Jeff out of the glitter-filled closet as the blackmailer, do you even now think that Adam was really obsessed with chunky, middle aged Shauna and running into her (literally and at the hotel) just because? Read on: The writers have dug a very deep hole for the Sadecki family -- Shauna, Jeff, and even Callie -- but they are too endearing for anything too drastic to happen to them, at least yet, and they provide comedic relief in an almost "Fargo" kind of way. Jeff even sets us up early on to expect the worst when he's talking about the true crime shows they watch and how nobody gets away. We don't see a way out because we're not supposed to see a way out, but there is going to be one that's quite unexpected. Things are not at all as they seem. We see Walter contact the police, but I predict he is not going to them with useful information. Rather, he is helping Misty and perhaps the entire group, but with an ulterior motive. Walter, we already know, is almost a male version of Misty... weird but really smart... and so isn't it likely he's been sleuthing the Yellowjackets all along? He didn't meet Misty by accident, but by design. At the very least, he's choreographing a cover story -- i.e., who is to say the torso and head police have found is even Adam? The cops just recovered the body parts... and cops lie all the time... so, there's no way any crime lab anywhere has had time to do a bone marrow comparison for a positive ID. Heck, storywise, there's not really any other good reason we're not just dealing with an entire dead body. How did police find those remains anyway? Do you believe Misty is that sloppy? I don't. Also, Walter has some connection to Adam. I'd say the chances are good he put Adam up to seducing Shauna in the first place. Adam wasn't the blackmailer, but he wasn't legit just obsessed with Shauna, either. Was he hired by Walter to get intel? Starving artists need money and Walter has plenty. Plus, Walter is all over the message boards... in a very personal and persistent way with his so-called theories about Adam. It's not because he's a dog with a bone (an "ugh" analogy, given this series); its because he KNOWS what happened. Walter's motive isn't entirely clear yet, but it's seemingly bigger than just crushing on Misty, though he may also be doing that. He is pulling a lot of strings -- but at the end of the day, he's not a Yellowjacket, which means he's probably not quite AS smart as he thinks and his days ultimately may be numbered.
I am definitely worried that Walter may want to live out his yearning to be an ACTUAL detective and when emailing the police department, may spill the beans on MIsty's confession that he was, "right about the thing"! Maybe he is going to Lottie's compound to get more info...hence, grabbing a purple blazer before leaving...hmmmm. ^..^
How come nobody is saying anything about Walter having Misty’s jacket after he emailed the police.. I think he is seeing if Jeff is like the rest. Walter had way more to him I believe
I’m hoping Misty someday, somehow takes the fall for Adam’s murder since she’s the one who handled him after shauna killed him. And it would be a great way for karma to kick her in the ass. She’s responsible for everything that happened after the black box was destroyed by her because her ego got stroked one singular time. They could’ve been rescued but nope. She’s also the one who prevented Natalie from helping javi. Killed Jessica Robert’s. She’s a literal psychotic murderer and has no qualms with it
The fact people really be judging people who are literally going insane because starvation is wild 😂. The comments on these videos shows exactly why these girls will do anything to keep what they did a secret 😂.
@@RNM-bu4rj they did not "do everything". We never saw them foraging and they barely hunted. They didnt set traps and they never really used the vegetation around them. I'm sure they could have made broths from things like nuts and grasses and there are no doubt small animals hibernating all around them. I know it's just a show & it's more entertaining that they're desperate and without options but the wilderness has a lot more food options than we've seen them explore. Even deer eat grass under the snow in winter. There is "food" all around them Edit: I forgot to mention fish! They are right by a lake filled with fish & we've never seen them fishing once
So many people are making the connection that being weak, physically and mentally vulnerable, and experiencing heavy trauma is what leads people to believe in…. things *stares at religion*
I get where you are going with the 1996 group's sudden switch of character/personality...BUT! I will say this...as a person who has been through a bout of one year of starvation-( medical issue undiagnosed but I am okay now)and in the midst of an insanely traumatic bout of circumstances...one's brain is just NOT right! You have ONE thing on your mind and in your body and it is...EATING! YOU ARE SO HUNGRY that all civility, decency and common sense goes right out the window! As soon as they are blessed with the idea of being able to eat...IT IS ON! ^..^
A lot of people are massively underestimating the affect starvation and exposure has on the human brain and, therefore behavior. (I’m sorry you went through that and I hope you’re better!)
Javi's death ruined this show for me. I could sympathize with them before that, now I'm just disgusted. I can't imagine how they're going to handle him being eaten like it's no big thing. He's just a kid 😔
Is it me or does the 'secret sharing place' look exactly like upstairs in the cabin. Also noticed some scenery at the retreat looks like the forest where they crashed as well. Could the tunnel Ben found lead to parallel realities. They are a 'Multi-verse' of possibilities. 🐜👽👻❤️.
I thought Walter was picking something purple to sneak into the retreat place with the women 😝 Also it choose Javi not Nat. So in modern day it may choose someone else at the place, not one of the 5 survivors.
Javi brought back the queen card which is a point for It chooses but they totally could have saved him. Also iirc they were howling during doomscoming so this is just a continuation of that.
To me it looked like Nat accidentally drew two cards... but when she held it up, there was just one, so maybe they just chose a shot, where the actress accidentally drew two?
Great ep kinda makes me understand the very first scene of the girl falling in the pit... only one more eo left of the season so i hope it covers a lot of ground
Who sent the postcards? Are we meant to believe it was Jeff? He admitted to texting Tai & Nat. Not sending 4 of them postcards. Did Walter grab a purple shirt because he was a member or because he’s going there and feels he needs purple to fit in?
It is established that Jeff sent the postcards. That's why Shauna didn't receive one. I saw comments saying that it was Misty's purple jacket she left in his car. I guess he just wants to blend in.
@@ango8466 I’ll find the episode. I just always thought they would reveal the two stories were separate. Like we were meant to believe it was the sane threat but once the Lottie storyline was revealed, we’d find out the postcards were from her since the purple people who grabbed Nat had the symbol on their necklaces. Clearly I’m over thinking it! Lol
@deanna medeiros Yes, you are, but I agree it could be clearer in the episodes. Jeff sent the postcards, I don't remember why or how Lottie spied on Nat. Maybe when Travis died bc she knew it would devastate her.
Misty was the one to stop Nat and told her to stop/held her back. Yea she stopped fighting her but it wasn’t completely her not saving him was all on her own
My predictions - I think the baby lived somehow and it is the psycho cop. And maybe javi was dead the whole time. Walter is going to help misty with adams body in some way. They will have to drop the case.
We saw how they decide who dies we also saw Ben find a I guess you can say secret underground area which I'm going to guess is where Javi was going to take Nat to but the writers didn't want I guess anyone else to find out about that underground area right now maybe because there's someone else there that we have not gotten to see yet because we also saw some bones that Ben found
im not sure why everyone thinks its out of place that they were so eager to hunt. Everyone has to remember they are starving, that does things to the mind. Its like a switch in the mind when they realize food is possible by killing another. the point of the show is also to show that deep down we are all animals, if we were put in the situation the girls were we would result to the same tactics in order to survive.
love the basic plot but this show has very big production and writting problems...Javi and Nat running away right through a frozen lake, where every one can see them?? if all the girls were chasing Nat (Akila, Melissa and Mari included) who t f was the two girls helping Gen holding Travis back in the cabin? where did the poison Lottie put in the drinks come from? she already had it prepared beforehand ?? it's too rushed and unexplained and full with continuity errors for a second season of such top show
Even though there are some errors the show’s overall synopsis is great in my opinion and I wanna see how it ends. Will definitely blow my mind if Jackie is somehow involved in this but if it comes that Lottie is queen kinda bummer because like it was so predictable
I think you should've delve into Javi's death given the fact it was much more symbolic as far as how long he was missing, where he was and just stupid. Another reason why I'm not watching this show anymore
I like the series but I have not loved the pacing of this season. The last ep 7 the plot barely progressed and it truly felt like filler. Good character development this season but its the bulk of this season. I also found them going from eating jackie for survival to flat out hunting down their friend for sport to be a complete 180 and it was jarring. They go from friends cracking jokes to wanting to slit a friends throat in an instance. Maybe thats saying something about teenage hierarchy. But it was weird along with the howling. Also I don’t know if its just me but young tai and present day is really annoying me. In the past she gets upset that Shauna is grieving Jackie in an inappropriate way and outs Shauna for it….but only tells Van she is sleep walking. Then fast forward to just a few episodes later she is trying to be the top hunter howling and growling trying to kill the only girl that could hunt in Natalie. Present day she left her wife in coma fighting for her life and child went across state to be with her ex. She has the moral compass with a magnet next to it.
😱😱😱 me realizing it might be like TWO YEARSB OR MORE until we get season 3 because of the writers strike and companies like Netflix who won't pay the writers more than $8 when their episodes stream 💔💔💔 I CAN'T
Sad and unpopular opinion this show is turning into a drama (which is not my favorite), merging into a supernatural show. Very disappointed. The only thing that was holding me is the ending and now I could care less.
I agree I thought the howling would’ve come in later hunts not the first one but I think maybe it was the darkness taking over like when they were on shrooms & it showed true savagery beginning
It's gonna be Walter. He's gonna die, I'm sure of it. He will show up at the cult HQ with his purple outfit and the darkness will choose him. There is no narrative reason for that character to stay alive. He's done his part. He'll be next.
Pretty sure she was on about the whole wilderness entity ordeal. The girls are starving and hallucinating so they could believe in anything in those circumstances
She meant that nothing supernatural was real. And indeed nothing in the series so far has been supernatural, it just looks that way because of creepy music, camera angles, hunger, and the twisted minds of teenage girls in general. If it was more clear cut, all of them would know it and there would be no need for Travis to leave a note saying to tell Natalie she was right. (Although, other than Lottie, who says Travis was even talking about the darkness they supposedly brought back; he may have been referring to something different Nat was right about. Lottie isn't telling remotely the truth about Travis's death. Uhhh... I'm gonna fake hang myself, but here's my bank information? Uh, no...
@@wuhoolife I feel like Javi kind of figured out that once he fell in, it was all over for him. In the end I feel like Javi really cared about Nat and made peace with things ending
@@nichellejohnson3340 where did you get all that from? He was screaming her name "Natalie please help me". He tried to save her and she betrayed him to save herself.
I can’t stop thinking that maybe Javi was taking nat to his refuge to kill her because of the bones and the wilderness took him bcs he wasn’t being fair, I don’t see why else show us the weird tree and the bones with his death
I've watched both seasons and it just confirms what I originally thought this show to be. Overrated and boring. It drags so much and there's so many wasted scenes on who knows what and who is lying to who. It's just another thing for people to obsess over like Twilight. The story is boring because how many times do you need to see people eating others to survive while stranded? It's been done too many times already. Plus girls practicing witchcraft. That's so old and been done on movies and TV too many times. And nothing comes to a shock because you already know these girls are messed up in the head from the very beginning. I'm not wasting anymore time on this show if other seasons are made.
@@FH-id6xi I read something that said that not even the writer's know where the story is going, as is what the spirit tormenting them is etc. Which is normal, but dangerous when you have deadlines to submit scripts for and things like that. I liked the episode until the hunt scene myself, it felt too abrupt and odd. I had to go back to see if I messed the part where they agreed to chase someone. It would've made sense if they added a scene where they did, it would be more intense.
I Hated the Episode; I mean what a way to make Humankind Look so Weak-I mean the youngest boy that tried to risk their life & save sum1 dies 4 sum1 (natalie) to be self-serving which is the caustic monster that is literally killing society: people being: self-serving & not wanting to help others that need gelp 😫😢😭
It almost makes me praise Superhero movies, at least they generally help people that do good; outside of the volatile negativity in episode 8, this is a very cool series!
bro they are starving and are in the wilderness. they don’t have a moral compass and tbh they only care about themselves when it comes to life or death
What did you think of this episode? Lottie's vision was extremely interesting... it's going to be sad seeing Travis go through that grief all over again! Comment your thoughts below! 🐝
I preferred the adult storyline over the teen storyline this episode
Terrible. This show is trash now.
Javi’s death was so hard to watch because you could tell in Nat’s eyes that she wanted to help him so badly. And to see how hunger has effected the girl’s minds so much is scary. I agree though about the howling. I felt like that came a little too soon and felt cringe and out of place.
It was wasn't it! You could tell that Nat wanted to save him because she knew the hurt that Travis would be going through again too.
they’ve been howling since sn 1…
I Hated the Episode; I mean what a way to make Humankind Look so Weak-I mean the youngest boy that tried to risk their life & save sum1 dies 4 sum1 (natalie) to be self-serving which is the caustic monster that is literally killing society: people being: self-serving & not wanting to help others that need gelp 😫😢😭
Yeah the howling was too soon i Feld really rushed this eisode soo much was going on
They were making animal noises since season 1 doomcoming. It's just another version of their Buzz Buzz Buzz chant. One person in the group does something and the rest follow, it's just being teenagers
I understand why Nat is suicidal now. It’s one thing to have survivor’s guilt if you did everything you could and someone died, it’s another if you killed him. And this is her soulmate’s brother who she’s already lied about being dead. No relationship no matter how strong the affection could survive that.
She tried to save him, but she skipped arms
NOW? Lol
Props to Sophie Thatcher. She’s been giving amazing and understated performances all season but she really shines this ep.
Most definitely agree!
Ben was great too this Episode He found Hope again
Yes her acting deserves an Emmy for this season!
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Just to lose this hope in next episode 😢
She’s alright
One thing I don’t get is why they are all so protective of Shauna
She is deranged and she betrayed Jackie. The fact that they treated Jackie so harsh but treat Shauna preciously,really blows my mind
Also I think that Melanie Lynskey is not a good cast to play a psychopath . she really looks like a good person and that’s killing the vibe for me
that’s a good thing tbh
I think the casting is perfect. The good and friendly demeanour she gives off messes with our minds. Anyone can be evil, and the fact she can mask it with an innocent looking face is amazing. It makes us believe that anything awful she does we can forgive her because she doesn’t look evil lol. I hold the same sentiment for her character in The Last of Us.
I love Melanie as Shauna. Her sweet demeanor makes Shauna seem more psychotic.
As a teenager, back in high school, Shauna tried to direct Jeff away from her and back to Jackie. He persisted. It's not just that he got sex from her; he has been in love with her from start to finish. We assumed for a long time that he'd had to marry her because of the pregnancy, but that's not the case. Shauna wasn't as bad a friend as it seems. That said, she is deranged... but she comes by it honestly.
@@Euphlor that’s a good point.I actually loved her performance in the Last of us, since she made me hate the character she was portraying 🤣
I think they had to disassociate (when they ran after Nat), almost like they were animals because she is their friend. Which is why they were howling and treating this like a hunt. It is all very haunting, for sure.
But they did Not Play it right too much normal they where
I agree but they should have drugged themselves first or do some sort of ritual a la ancient warriors or some shit.
The problem is that they fucked up the transition... It was WAY too forced and quick. They were all normal girls loving eachother and out of the blue, they have this card game where they decide to kill someone, which is extremely random, they never talked about killing eachother, ever, and they start hunt like grownling dog, again something they've never come close to doing before. We knew they were gonna turn crazy violent, but the transition into this madness was so sooo poorly executed. Just thrown at us with no thoughts or progression that make sens.
@@OncleJer yeah it could throw down the whole series Like suddenly a New director this make this IT does Not fit they could have done so many Things Like Look for crytsals Body.
@@Daniel-lq5qq Yes... I honestly have no idea wtf they did there... I was super invested in the show, loved everything. This thing was such a throw off, so rushed, as if production realized they dragged their "sane" moments too much and had to create the descent into madness as soon as possible. I was so hyped by the expectation of seeing their progression into the violent cult, but the way it was just thrown into our face is a major let down.
Misty: No Ben don’t kill yourself please
Also Misty: well Natalie you pulled the queen time to get your throat slit
Great review! This episode reinforces why Natalie is my favorite character. I can’t imagine how she will function around all of them in the finale after literally hunting her like a pack of wolves. Every group needs a leader and Shauna & Lottie are substandard. I miss Jackie.
Thanks, glad you enjoyed the video! I know what you mean. Even having Jackie in the flashbacks was nice to see!
I don't think shauna will get caught but i see jeff being the scapegoat.
Would be very fitting to the character of Jeff for him to end up getting the blame for all of that!
@@BrainPilot true either he takes the fall or Shauna kills Jeff and frame it that he found out about the affair and killed Adam for revenge
I think someone else will take the blame, If you watched the promo for episode 9, you can see Walter hugging Misty while there are cop cars in the bakcground
@@Marie-rq2gp I saw that. Also, in this episode, when Walter was going into his coat closet, did he take a purple coat of Misty's with him? Wasn't that the purple coat she was wearing at first on their road trip? I wld have to go back and check. Maybe for DNA reasons?! I think Walter might be Adam Martin's best friend that needed the bone marrow transplant
@@karmaklutz
That "friend bone marrow" thing is good, but I don't think so. He looked genuinely surprised the police found Adam, and if he was that friend, he would know the police wanted to test his bone marrow for Adam's DNA.
Also, I'm pretty sure he emailed the police so he can trick mustache cop and kill him (the body he asks Jeff to help with).
I don;t know why they are all listening to Lottie so much. I don't buy the fact that she has all the answers and we must sacrifice one life to protect another. It's BS
They are starving and traumatized. They are experiencing group psychosis. You don’t understand it because you haven’t experienced it. Be grateful for that.
@@anndruh I think OP is also referring to the way present day YJs are still listening to Lottie
Yes exctaly she never did anything great
@@asw827 There is no way they actually listen to her in the present day and drink the poison. That would be way too stupid.
@@Fray2221 I think they are going to hunt one of the commune members instead.
Next week’s episode is the last episode of the season. Only 9 episodes this season. I also agree that they didn’t feel much hesitancy in trying to kill Nat, especially after she tried to get them food for so long. I guess that’s what they wanted us to see, that it doesn’t matter now.
I think they are just numb now like when Shauna beaten the crap out of Lottie last episode. They just watched in silence. Not much emotions left in them but hunger.
@@ashley.taylor174 I agree! I understand Shauna needed to “let it out”, but they definitely let her go too far, like they access to medical care out there. I also see a lot of passive aggressive behavior too, like the comment one of the girls made when Shauna took the blanket to give to Lottie, she’s says “oh now you care about Lottie”. Clearly people did not like this “cathartic” beat down but they said nothing and did nothing to intervene. And all of the other little snarky comments made by the other girls about things that occurred well before they expressed any issue with it. Some of its just teenagers being teenagers and living under tough conditions, but a lot of passive aggression.
Anyone remember the little speech about the queen bee killing all the other potential queens so the whole hive doesn't starve?
How can you forget? It's like the show's MO
When was that?
@@cannontt92 when Lottie was showing the beehives to Nat
Lottie needs to Go
@@cannontt92 when Nat arrives at Lottie's compound and Lottie is showing the beekeeping area and then later has a vision of all the bees dead and covered in blood. S2 E3 or 4
i think a reason a lot of people are disappointed with this episode is because their decision to commit to this act (i.e. the cards and the hunt) seemed so sudden and almost anticlimactic.
it was maybe the editing but it felt very choppy.
we were presented the scene of misty relaying to the others what lottie said about not letting her body go to waste if she dies…..and then tai saying they need to figure out a way to survive without lottie (as if lottie is essential to their survival (unlike nat who’s a hunter) outside of giving them hope/resolve)
cut to…the card drawing scene???? i feel like we were owed at least a discussion of sorts? maybe there was a scene that was cut? it just felt jarring.
in hindsight if you look at the state of their sanity in the beginning of the episode, hell even the beginning of this season, it’s understandable why they are resorting to such lengths so early.
i don’t think this was a bad episode by any means at all. i think this is one of my more favorite eps of the season, especially in terms of momentum.
She was a useless hunter because there was nothing to hunt out there. Lol
Yes, extremely choppy and out of place. They were normal, scared teenagers and they just flipped a switch and turned into murderous hounds? So forced and out of place... 0 transition into the madness, just a full on 180 with no explanation, what a mess this episode is...
Anyone else just absolutely baffled at the idea of the poison cup roulette in the present day? Like what is killing off one of them now going to for the group? Lmao Lottie was like “NAT you almost killed yourself” and then just casually prepares a suicide ritual for the group.
Also, didn’t love how after Nat picks the queen card the entire group just so quickly turns on her. Wish they would have built that up a little more and I wish there was more dialogue when it comes to the cannibalism aspect of the show. It’s such a savage thing to do and it just seems like everyone is just low key cool with it and no one ever really brings it up. Like it’s just mutually agreed upon without anyone ever really saying anything.
Young Shauna’s morals seemed to have taken a complete 180 turn as well. All season she has been so against Lottie and her little “wilderness cult” but now I guess she’s all for it
Whew this episode !!!! I found the irony in how javi passed !! Same place as deer and Nat being the one pulling trying to save him. Being in starvation mode for sure triggered them this episode especially allowing the wilderness to choose Nat given the fact that she hunted and provided food while there. I feel like Walter is the bone marrow donor that’s going to tie that body to Adam. Great episode love the show!!! Always leaves my mind going 🤍
I have thought for the last couple of episodes that it is possible that there were other survivors from the crash who are living in the warm cave Ben found. The bones are the missing body of Misty's friend. Someone else ate her, as Javi couldn't have. I think there will be a big reveal that there is another group surviving out there.
Those bones were tiny. Too tiny to be human. Likely they were woodland creatures who wandered into the warm place.
And then our crazy friends here would have some big forest battle and end up wiping them all out 😭
That's Shauna's baby's bones.
Jk. Could be tiny animals.
Those bones weren’t human.
I haven't gone back to check, but wasn't there something that leads me to think Javi was not alone while he was missing?
The Javi scene was heartbreaking! I was so happy to see Nat and Travis have that scene together and then that had to happen. Then finding the underground Cavern is very exciting and I can't wait to find out what the hell is going on. Also what is going on with Walter!? Is he team Misty or against her!? Can't believe there's only one episode left this season
Someone shared an interesting theory on the TV Time app:
That the symbol which has become synonymous with the show, could actually be hiding a hidden meaning right under our noses. Seeing it on the tree by the entrance to the cave inside, it could also perhaps be a map over the mines underground. And the dripping sounds that Mari keeps hearing could be coming from down there as well, or yeah, that could also just be a hallucination like Akilah's mouse being alive, and there might not me any hidden passageways underground, and the tree might just be hollow without more mines - but I'm curious as to where the heat is coming from then
I’m getting annoyed with the pacing. We keep getting more questions than answers.
I feel like that's because it's been confirmed for quite a few seasons!
Agree big time!!!!
The show is supposed to be 5 seasons long
That hunt scene was bat shit crazy
Insane
this episode more than any other really cemented the supernatural element of this show. when you see lottie’s eyes opening after javi’s death… that’s just one too many coincidences for the supernatural element of this show to be “ambiguous” 😭
There is zero in the series so far that is supernatural.
The show shld have 10 episodes, I feel like we need more info bc its gonna bee a LOOOOONG TIME UNTIL S3...
The teens dont want to listen to teen Lottie but they resort to this behavior?! Un-fuckin-believable
Also, the part where Lottie wants the women to be posioned...CULT! C'mon seriously? W..t...f....is going onz
And they need to do it fast before the group ages out as actors
Exctaly
Both Shauna and Taissa are mothers. Are they seriously not thinking of their kids? Come on. I love the show but I find that bit much to drink poison drinks.
@@naturistfred I dont even think the writer's know some of these answers yet. I kinda think they read the fan comments and then disprove some of them on purpose to keep up the intrigue. Example: Adam Martin was originally Javi.
There are soooo many theories out there now that someone out there is right about, I just hope the writer's pick a lane, stay in it, amd drive it home! 5 seasons total, so we got a ways to go yet. I just hope we get to see the 8th survivor bc I want to see scenes from when the teens survived, AND I wld also love to see scenes from when they were all just teens b4 the crash and get more backstory into the main characters.
I mean, I guess they gave us a glimpse, but I need a tiny bit more... Once the 8th survivor is revealed, depending on who it is will be another whole bag of bones to deal with
@@naturistfred I don’t think they have a genuine bond with their kids or anyone. They became numb back during wilderness time and their PTSD keeps them numb in their adulthood.
One question I have, if Van knows she only has a few months to live, why wouldn't she willlingly take the poison. Hell, If I had cancer and someone was offering me a dose of phenobarbitol I'd snatch all those glasses and quaf every last one. As for the wolf behavior when hunting Nat, I think behaving like an animal and divorcing yourself from your humanity would be the only way to commit such an act. In fact the only one who did not behave like an animal was Misty, she remained perfectly rational. I think this is because she's the real culprit behind everything. She was bullied in HS and this is her long-term revenge.
Agreed when it comes to how dark this shiz is becoming! I have a feeling that our season finale is going to really be a BANGER! We may even get to see where the 1996 group constructs the ritual that the pilot opens with! ^..^
I think what we fail to realize a lot watching this show is that everything is up for grabs. People are constantly hallucinating and starving ? Nobody is a reliable narrator we have no idea what’s really going on and that’s done on purpose .
I'm so glad so many youtubers including you are realizing how sick Shauna is. She has been a toxic and deeply disturbed person since the first episode. Glad Lynsky is such a phenomenal actress as she makes me want Shauna to survive or stay out of jail. But her character is one of the most despicable.
Example - last episode 7 she lied and told Misty that Adam attacked her - which is a lie.
I think there have to be SERIOUS consequences for Shauna and I suspect she is going to lose Callie. Her breakdown to Lottie was very one-sided. She essentially told Lottie that she doesn't feel anything for her daughter in episode 7. Lottie had a very strange look.
Then in the circle in episode 7 - Shauna says she may be repressing things - so she may have repressed that she almost killed Lottie.
Not sure if Lottie has forgetten.
Then the call at the end of Season 7 with Shauna aksing if Callie was okay.
So I think Callie is the sacrifice and I think Lottie will be the one to kill her.
Perhaps Jeff and Callie come to visit Shauna. Perhaps Callie ends up drinking the tea by mistake - paralleling her dad saying she needed something stronger to take everything away before revealing the baby and how fucked up her Mom is.
Jeff is clearly very close to Callie right now and incredibly protective - storywise for those characters losing Callie opens up the show to such new heights in Season 3.
Javi has left the chat….Again
Walter is related to one of the prior yellow jackets victims. And Coach Ben I think for his own safety sake is still living in the woods in Javi's little secret area
I’m surprised the cops didn’t find the piece of Adam’s ID that Callie kept.
They literally watched javi die. Brutal
They didn’t show us how they really came up with the idea of the card. They had to all have agreed 100% to accept their fate which is why they had no problem chasing their friend. They knew they’d be killing a friend no matter what. Maybe the adults will dive in to that choice they agreed to when they were starving. Maybe not. I hope so otherwise the writers are missing on some real character depth good writing and just being lazy.
They showed us, though. They've been using the cards to sort out chores since the start of the season, Misty and Crystal were always complaining about picking the "bad" cards.
I get what you mean. It didn't show the part where they actually discussed and decided it. Would of been interesting to watch
@@kleineschnappi was it always the queen of hearts that was the bad chore card? i can’t remember
The cast mentioned a couple of scenes they got cut out that were CRUCIAL in my opinion
@@myong2206 javi brought the queen card back with him. You see Akilah mention it
This is a sick, sick depraved show. Liked it at first but I feel regretful giving it my time. That said, Misty and Walter are fantastic characters.
It's a sick, sick depraved show. Yayyyyy!
Javi had to go. His age affected him on the show. At first he was a kid. 2 months later hes a teenager.
The Javi scene was so sad! I cried cause i don’t think that should have been how he should have left. He was going to show Natalie a spot to be safe and he was asking for her help. I couldn’t live with myself seeing that. Now the Natalie and Travis drama is back on. They just reconciled!! Should have been a different ending.
Yeah it was such a sad moment!
@@BrainPilot I just thought they should have kept him on a little bit longer to find out “his friend”. If they were so hungry why didn’t Misty just tell them about crystal? Just so many “ugh” moments 😢
This season is pretty... Mid compared to s1. First of all that cop groomed an underage kid for info and even bought her alcohol... That's entrapment. Then they broke into the motel room where Shauna and the big guy faked an ahem session, they had no warrant to go in there as far as we've been shown. Any lawyer worth money would have this case and evidence thrown out in a court of law
The show is getting bad I agree
@@kittycatcat6962 poor writing
@@FH-id6xi I imagine the writers strike over mini rooms has definitely affected the quality
i slightly disagree with the analysis that the girls didnt choose with the cards and that the wildnerness chose javi itself. the reason the wilderness chose javi is because he was trying to rob it of its allotted sacrifice, aka nat, by showing her to sanctuary
I think the howling is the wilderness taking over. Like it did during the mushroom trip.
I've just finished binge watching the entire series for the first time, knowing very little about it, and one thing that's obvious is that absolutely nothing -- so far -- is supernatural. It's all implied through creepy music and camera moves, hunger, and the twisted minds of teenage girls in general.
A lot of the secrets to this show can be gleaned through retrofitting -- i.e., looking at what the writers very carefully have constructed to mislead us.
Even with Jeff out of the glitter-filled closet as the blackmailer, do you even now think that Adam was really obsessed with chunky, middle aged Shauna and running into her (literally and at the hotel) just because? Read on:
The writers have dug a very deep hole for the Sadecki family -- Shauna, Jeff, and even Callie -- but they are too endearing for anything too drastic to happen to them, at least yet, and they provide comedic relief in an almost "Fargo" kind of way. Jeff even sets us up early on to expect the worst when he's talking about the true crime shows they watch and how nobody gets away. We don't see a way out because we're not supposed to see a way out, but there is going to be one that's quite unexpected.
Things are not at all as they seem.
We see Walter contact the police, but I predict he is not going to them with useful information. Rather, he is helping Misty and perhaps the entire group, but with an ulterior motive. Walter, we already know, is almost a male version of Misty... weird but really smart... and so isn't it likely he's been sleuthing the Yellowjackets all along? He didn't meet Misty by accident, but by design. At the very least, he's choreographing a cover story -- i.e., who is to say the torso and head police have found is even Adam? The cops just recovered the body parts... and cops lie all the time... so, there's no way any crime lab anywhere has had time to do a bone marrow comparison for a positive ID. Heck, storywise, there's not really any other good reason we're not just dealing with an entire dead body. How did police find those remains anyway? Do you believe Misty is that sloppy? I don't.
Also, Walter has some connection to Adam. I'd say the chances are good he put Adam up to seducing Shauna in the first place. Adam wasn't the blackmailer, but he wasn't legit just obsessed with Shauna, either. Was he hired by Walter to get intel? Starving artists need money and Walter has plenty. Plus, Walter is all over the message boards... in a very personal and persistent way with his so-called theories about Adam. It's not because he's a dog with a bone (an "ugh" analogy, given this series); its because he KNOWS what happened.
Walter's motive isn't entirely clear yet, but it's seemingly bigger than just crushing on Misty, though he may also be doing that. He is pulling a lot of strings -- but at the end of the day, he's not a Yellowjacket, which means he's probably not quite AS smart as he thinks and his days ultimately may be numbered.
I am definitely worried that Walter may want to live out his yearning to be an ACTUAL detective and when emailing the police department, may spill the beans on MIsty's confession that he was, "right about the thing"!
Maybe he is going to Lottie's compound to get more info...hence, grabbing a purple blazer before leaving...hmmmm. ^..^
I thought that was Misty's coat bc I swear she had one on like that in the beginning of their road trip
Noo, I'm pretty sure Walter is team Misty and he will cover for her. Maybe kill mustache cop even.
@@karmaklutz Guess we shall see!
@@ango8466yeah I kinda feel like Walter is gonna mislead the police or worse, at least once he's listened to the answerphone message
I feel like Walter will be sacrificed in the season finale. It's no coincidence he and Jeff show up at Lottie's camp.
How come nobody is saying anything about Walter having Misty’s jacket after he emailed the police.. I think he is seeing if Jeff is like the rest. Walter had way more to him I believe
I’m hoping Misty someday, somehow takes the fall for Adam’s murder since she’s the one who handled him after shauna killed him. And it would be a great way for karma to kick her in the ass. She’s responsible for everything that happened after the black box was destroyed by her because her ego got stroked one singular time. They could’ve been rescued but nope. She’s also the one who prevented Natalie from helping javi. Killed Jessica Robert’s. She’s a literal psychotic murderer and has no qualms with it
The fact people really be judging people who are literally going insane because starvation is wild 😂. The comments on these videos shows exactly why these girls will do anything to keep what they did a secret 😂.
Exactly. They were stuck in the wilderness for months!!!!! They did everything to survive.
That part isn't the issue with me. It's the killing random people as adults. 😂 what did Adam do to deserve him getting killed and dismembered?
@@RNM-bu4rj they did not "do everything". We never saw them foraging and they barely hunted. They didnt set traps and they never really used the vegetation around them. I'm sure they could have made broths from things like nuts and grasses and there are no doubt small animals hibernating all around them. I know it's just a show & it's more entertaining that they're desperate and without options but the wilderness has a lot more food options than we've seen them explore. Even deer eat grass under the snow in winter. There is "food" all around them
Edit: I forgot to mention fish! They are right by a lake filled with fish & we've never seen them fishing once
Loved the use of the music from The Sweeney Todd during Walter's scene - golden!
Yeah that was a good choice!
This episode exposes how terrible they really are. The couch did the right thing by trying to kill them all.
I liked the ending …they all went crazy at the end …& them letting harvy die was insane
Yeah it was so dark!
*Javi
I was surprised that Shauna's daughter did not know about her brother. R.I.P. Javi, he should have listened and not come back.
Thank you!! That switch on Natalie was way too jarring
I wanna know what's up with that cave and whoever Javi's "friend" is that's seemingly living down there. Creepy.
Yeah it will be interesting to see what happens with that in the next episode!
The emotional disconnect is common in cults and cult programming
So many people are making the connection that being weak, physically and mentally vulnerable, and experiencing heavy trauma is what leads people to believe in…. things *stares at religion*
@@anndruh yes Religion can be the Same
Ben should have told Nat where he was going imo but i get why he didn't
True!
He didn't because she would criticize him like she did Javi?
I wish she would have went with him
This episode was so awful. I can’t believe how bad season 2 has been.
How come you've not been a fan of S2?
Straight up cried during the javi scene
It was such a haunting scene wasn't it!
I get where you are going with the 1996 group's sudden switch of character/personality...BUT! I will say this...as a person who has been through a bout of one year of starvation-( medical issue undiagnosed but I am okay now)and in the midst of an insanely traumatic bout of circumstances...one's brain is just NOT right! You have ONE thing on your mind and in your body and it is...EATING! YOU ARE SO HUNGRY that all civility, decency and common sense goes right out the window!
As soon as they are blessed with the idea of being able to eat...IT IS ON! ^..^
A lot of people are massively underestimating the affect starvation and exposure has on the human brain and, therefore behavior.
(I’m sorry you went through that and I hope you’re better!)
@@anndruh Thank You and yes! I think they’re hallucinating A LOT!
@@Soulwarrior7 I can relate! I hope your friend is okay!
They literally let Javi drown so they can eat him. More could've been done to help him. They put more effort in getting him out once he was dead. 🙄
Javi's death ruined this show for me. I could sympathize with them before that, now I'm just disgusted. I can't imagine how they're going to handle him being eaten like it's no big thing. He's just a kid 😔
@@tonyabrookes9931 agreed. They're monsters.
They can pay their respects to Javi by putting some bbq sauce on him.
Is it me or does the 'secret sharing place' look exactly like upstairs in the cabin. Also noticed some scenery at the retreat looks like the forest where they crashed as well. Could the tunnel Ben found lead to parallel realities. They are a 'Multi-verse' of possibilities. 🐜👽👻❤️.
Loved this episode its the the misty air before the storm the calm is over.
Yeah it was a great episode!
I thought Walter was picking something purple to sneak into the retreat place with the women 😝
Also it choose Javi not Nat. So in modern day it may choose someone else at the place, not one of the 5 survivors.
this ep was a massive letdowm...
Do you think? Hopefully the season finale will be good!
Javi brought back the queen card which is a point for It chooses but they totally could have saved him. Also iirc they were howling during doomscoming so this is just a continuation of that.
To me it looked like Nat accidentally drew two cards... but when she held it up, there was just one, so maybe they just chose a shot, where the actress accidentally drew two?
That would make for an interesting approach!
This episode was plenty dark enough for me. I’m still recovering😂
Same here! That ending was so haunting!
Great ep kinda makes me understand the very first scene of the girl falling in the pit... only one more eo left of the season so i hope it covers a lot of ground
Let’s hope so!
I bet Van goes bye bye by drinking the poisoned tea ...she makes the ultimate sacrifice as she knows she is going to die of cancer anyways
Who sent the postcards? Are we meant to believe it was Jeff? He admitted to texting Tai & Nat. Not sending 4 of them postcards.
Did Walter grab a purple shirt because he was a member or because he’s going there and feels he needs purple to fit in?
It is established that Jeff sent the postcards. That's why Shauna didn't receive one.
I saw comments saying that it was Misty's purple jacket she left in his car. I guess he just wants to blend in.
@@ango8466 I recall her looking at a postcard in her kitchen and hiding it in a drawer when someone walked in.
@@romedeiros1970
I don't remember that :o
I recall her being surprised Nat and Misty got a postcard.
@@ango8466 I’ll find the episode. I just always thought they would reveal the two stories were separate. Like we were meant to believe it was the sane threat but once the Lottie storyline was revealed, we’d find out the postcards were from her since the purple people who grabbed Nat had the symbol on their necklaces. Clearly I’m over thinking it! Lol
@deanna medeiros
Yes, you are, but I agree it could be clearer in the episodes. Jeff sent the postcards, I don't remember why or how Lottie spied on Nat. Maybe when Travis died bc she knew it would devastate her.
Maybe they were howling like animals chasing nat because they really were starving and gets a lil excited lol
The episodes are so long and when it was about chasing nat, they transform in like seconds. They didn’t build that right. My opinion
Misty was the one to stop Nat and told her to stop/held her back. Yea she stopped fighting her but it wasn’t completely her not saving him was all on her own
Good stuff man! Killed it
My predictions - I think the baby lived somehow and it is the psycho cop. And maybe javi was dead the whole time. Walter is going to help misty with adams body in some way. They will have to drop the case.
We saw how they decide who dies we also saw Ben find a I guess you can say secret underground area which I'm going to guess is where Javi was going to take Nat to but the writers didn't want I guess anyone else to find out about that underground area right now maybe because there's someone else there that we have not gotten to see yet because we also saw some bones that Ben found
im not sure why everyone thinks its out of place that they were so eager to hunt. Everyone has to remember they are starving, that does things to the mind. Its like a switch in the mind when they realize food is possible by killing another. the point of the show is also to show that deep down we are all animals, if we were put in the situation the girls were we would result to the same tactics in order to survive.
love the basic plot but this show has very big production and writting problems...Javi and Nat running away right through a frozen lake, where every one can see them?? if all the girls were chasing Nat (Akila, Melissa and Mari included) who t f was the two girls helping Gen holding Travis back in the cabin? where did the poison Lottie put in the drinks come from? she already had it prepared beforehand ?? it's too rushed and unexplained and full with continuity errors for a second season of such top show
all of that can be explained with common sense imo
Even though there are some errors the show’s overall synopsis is great in my opinion and I wanna see how it ends. Will definitely blow my mind if Jackie is somehow involved in this but if it comes that Lottie is queen kinda bummer because like it was so predictable
With it looking to be several seasons in the making it will be interesting to see how it will develop!
I think you should've delve into Javi's death given the fact it was much more symbolic as far as how long he was missing, where he was and just stupid. Another reason why I'm not watching this show anymore
I like the series but I have not loved the pacing of this season. The last ep 7 the plot barely progressed and it truly felt like filler. Good character development this season but its the bulk of this season.
I also found them going from eating jackie for survival to flat out hunting down their friend for sport to be a complete 180 and it was jarring. They go from friends cracking jokes to wanting to slit a friends throat in an instance. Maybe thats saying something about teenage hierarchy. But it was weird along with the howling.
Also I don’t know if its just me but young tai and present day is really annoying me. In the past she gets upset that Shauna is grieving Jackie in an inappropriate way and outs Shauna for it….but only tells Van she is sleep walking.
Then fast forward to just a few episodes later she is trying to be the top hunter howling and growling trying to kill the only girl that could hunt in Natalie.
Present day she left her wife in coma fighting for her life and child went across state to be with her ex.
She has the moral compass with a magnet next to it.
😱😱😱 me realizing it might be like TWO YEARSB OR MORE until we get season 3 because of the writers strike and companies like Netflix who won't pay the writers more than $8 when their episodes stream 💔💔💔 I CAN'T
Those young actresses are going to be old enough to play the older versions by the time this show wraps up. Five seasons. Really?
Sad and unpopular opinion this show is turning into a drama (which is not my favorite), merging into a supernatural show. Very disappointed. The only thing that was holding me is the ending and now I could care less.
Did showtime take 8 down? I can’t watch it 😭🤦🏻♀️
Cable or streaming? It won't premiere til tomorrow (Sunday) on cable. It premieres Fridays on streaming
@@tonyabrookes9931 hi 👋 thank you I did find it in the app ❤️🤗
I agree I thought the howling would’ve come in later hunts not the first one but I think maybe it was the darkness taking over like when they were on shrooms & it showed true savagery beginning
Yeah it could well be couldn't it!
It's gonna be Walter. He's gonna die, I'm sure of it. He will show up at the cult HQ with his purple outfit and the darkness will choose him. There is no narrative reason for that character to stay alive. He's done his part. He'll be next.
He is moving a ded body with Jeff in the trailer 😂
Tall detective bout to GO!
@@ango8466 He's already moved one. I'm willing to bet...
At 42:40 mark, Shauna said but none of that was real Lottie. Anyone know what she was talking about?
Pretty sure she was on about the whole wilderness entity ordeal. The girls are starving and hallucinating so they could believe in anything in those circumstances
She meant that nothing supernatural was real. And indeed nothing in the series so far has been supernatural, it just looks that way because of creepy music, camera angles, hunger, and the twisted minds of teenage girls in general. If it was more clear cut, all of them would know it and there would be no need for Travis to leave a note saying to tell Natalie she was right. (Although, other than Lottie, who says Travis was even talking about the darkness they supposedly brought back; he may have been referring to something different Nat was right about. Lottie isn't telling remotely the truth about Travis's death. Uhhh... I'm gonna fake hang myself, but here's my bank information? Uh, no...
Oh damn just made it out like Nat didn’t even try to help Javi (WHICH SHE DID) but she was stopped by Misty.👎🏻
Yeah it's a shame!
Nat is the queen
Have you done Dark yet?
DARK is best series
Is Travis gonna eat his own brother?
Yes 😢
It seems like it!
Uh, I hate this show now. So awful
So javi and his brother risked their life to save natalie but she just watched the youngest one die to save her own ass. Disgusting
Misty literally tells Nat she'd die if she helped him
Yep.. Horrible.
@@wuhoolife I feel like Javi kind of figured out that once he fell in, it was all over for him. In the end I feel like Javi really cared about Nat and made peace with things ending
@@nichellejohnson3340 where did you get all that from? He was screaming her name "Natalie please help me". He tried to save her and she betrayed him to save herself.
Yes, most of the cast is disgusting now
Does anyone know why I can't watch this episode early on demand on the East Coast
Hmm kind of sucks and you should get first. But I'm in Texas I can see it as early as 1
I think you have to have showtime for the Friday drop.
@@bryan22222 I do I watched every episode Friday's at 12:01 Est this episode has not shown up yet
@@Mikeswig83 that's odd. I wonder why
I’m sure the adult version of Van will sacrifice herself because she has cancer.
lottie told the group that’s not how it works when nat or someone else said lottie should volunteer herself since it was her idea but we will see
@@listenidk9709 yes, hence, "it chooses"
BrainPilot… please do videos on Mrs. Davis!!
I love your Succession videos as well.. thank you for all the content :)
Thanks - glad you enjoy the videos!
We all know that Travis is going to blame Natalie for Javi’s death because Travis sucks.
Yeah it does feel like that doesn't it!
Well Natalie was a coward and saved her own ass instead of his. Which is gross
I can’t stop thinking that maybe Javi was taking nat to his refuge to kill her because of the bones and the wilderness took him bcs he wasn’t being fair, I don’t see why else show us the weird tree and the bones with his death
Because he lived there when he was gone and eating small animals he found there: mice or bats.
I don't understand why he didn't talk about it tho.
@@Soulwarrior7
The "friend" was Taissa's alter ego. That's why she found him.
@@Soulwarrior7 Correct.
@@ango8466 Ohhhhhhhhh... good theory!
The way they transform is like weird. I don’t like the way it is show
This was the worst episode of the series. completely disjointed and silly.
I've watched both seasons and it just confirms what I originally thought this show to be. Overrated and boring. It drags so much and there's so many wasted scenes on who knows what and who is lying to who. It's just another thing for people to obsess over like Twilight. The story is boring because how many times do you need to see people eating others to survive while stranded? It's been done too many times already. Plus girls practicing witchcraft. That's so old and been done on movies and TV too many times. And nothing comes to a shock because you already know these girls are messed up in the head from the very beginning. I'm not wasting anymore time on this show if other seasons are made.
I must say I love this show so so much but this episode…..not my favorite.
It was good Till the Ritual Part i dont Feld it it was Out of the Storyline too fast too soon
Mid season compared to s1
@@FH-id6xi absolutely. Season one was so good
@@FH-id6xi I read something that said that not even the writer's know where the story is going, as is what the spirit tormenting them is etc. Which is normal, but dangerous when you have deadlines to submit scripts for and things like that. I liked the episode until the hunt scene myself, it felt too abrupt and odd. I had to go back to see if I messed the part where they agreed to chase someone. It would've made sense if they added a scene where they did, it would be more intense.
@@MENACE-km6bd I mean tai says they need another way to survive and it can’t be eating lottie so I’m guessing they all agreed after that
I Hated the Episode; I mean what a way to make Humankind Look so Weak-I mean the youngest boy that tried to risk their life & save sum1 dies 4 sum1 (natalie) to be self-serving which is the caustic monster that is literally killing society: people being: self-serving & not wanting to help others that need gelp 😫😢😭
Life without hope... This is how it looks like
It almost makes me praise Superhero movies, at least they generally help people that do good; outside of the volatile negativity in episode 8, this is a very cool series!
bro they are starving and are in the wilderness. they don’t have a moral compass and tbh they only care about themselves when it comes to life or death