(EN/FR SUB) What's the Difference Between Chinese and Korean Buddhism? | Ven. Pomnyun's Dharma Q&A
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Ven. Pomnyun's Answer to "What's the difference between Chinese Buddhism and Korean Buddhism?"
Selection from a Dharma Q&A session at Union Theological Seminary (Oct. 2, 2014)
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The translator speaks in a good English translation, and it's easy to understand all what he said.
That guy speaks better English and Korean than I can... dammit.
Perfect
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@la381 comment the reason .😊 coz I thought the translation is 90% accurate..
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I like to hear Master ( Guru ) direct teaching in English.
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My goodness, I found out the interpreter's name is Jason Lim whom I met almost 20 years ago at the Dahn center's seminar. At that time I thought he is the best Korean interpreter I've ever met and looking at this video I was thinking this person is as good as Jason. It's crazy to find out this person is the same Jason I had met.
Awesome translator
This is a small world, isn't it.
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Great insight! Every religion has common grounds and fundamental differences. If people create conflict with the fundamental differences it leads to endless wars and if they understand differences and find common grounds, they can coexist peacefully
The person doing the simultaneous translation is very impressive. Thank you for for giving me access to Ven. Bopyun’s teachings. Unfortunately, my Korean is too limited to get everything that he teaches. So, I bow to the teacher and the teachings, and “anchalee” 🙏 to the translator.
I belive in buddhas teaching 🙏 and i proud to be buddhishm 🙏.peace religion 🙏
Great that there are good women out there that still believe in Buddha’s teachings 😊! Namo Amitabha 🙏
Buddhism is peaceful religion and very important for world to eradicate poverty, war ,and more important sorrow of human .Buddha not only show world is suffering of sorrow but also show to path to remove sorrow with help of noble eightfold path ,10 paramits etc. I love buddhism ☸
The interpreter did a great job. What's his name? That was amazing.
Open minded and enlightened..... Above all... Thank you very much.... I realize that I am so ignorant to see myself and the world.
🙏Ven. Pomnyun's = ☸ 👍
🙏Mr. Interpreter = Crystal clear
NAMO BUDDHAYA
from Bangladesh 🇧🇩🇧🇩🇧🇩
Bengali buddhists are a GEM!😁🙏. Bangla use to be one of the MAIN CENTERS for buddhism and was very influential in spreading buddhism into east asia. Hopefully bangla can return to its past glory days🙏🇧🇩☸. We bow 2 u great sir😊🙏
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Friends I'm Indian Buddhist...
Buddha is Light of World...
Ajay Khemade indian here bro...luv ..👍
Thank you for this great translation, Jason Lim!
The truth is We must train ourselves 1. not to kill
2. not to steal
3. not to commit sexual misconduct
4. Not to lie harmful speech
5. No food or drinks that cloud the mind!!! alcohol drugs etc etc
We must train ourselves !!!!!!. Mastering these five precepts of Buddha and live a happy life
통역 너무 좋아 스님의 즉문즉설 감동이 배가 됩니다. 제가 받은것처럼 즉문즉설이 전 세계사람들에게 희망이 되겠죠.
통역하시는분 감사합니다.
스님은 제게 희망입니다.
존경합니다.
🙏🙏🙏
전통 불교는 복을 비는 불교다. 돈 많이 벌게 해달라, 시험에 합격하게 해달라, 병 낫게 해달라 이것이 대부분이다. 그러기엔 두가지를 한다. 돈을 많이 보시하면 큰 복을 받는다. 가서 절을 하고 많이 기도하면 복을 많이 받는다. 다 비슷하다. 이것이 전통 불교이고, 모든 종교가 다 그렇다.
다만, 이런 종교는 석가모니 부처 또는 예수님의 가르침과는 크게 관계가 없다. 종교로서의 불교와 기독교의 문제는 그냥 놔 두는 게 좋다. 인간은 누구나 다 욕망이 있기 때문에, 거기에 의지할 수밖에 없다. 이것은 원시시대부터 내려온 역사다. 그러나 부처님은 이런 것이 바람직하지 않다고 말씀하셨다. 그래서 새로운 길을 열어주셨다. 그러나 불교마저도 원래 길로 접어들었다. 그래서 오늘 우리들이 생각해야할 것은 원래 부처님 말씀대로 돌아가자, 과거로 회귀하자는 것이 아니라, 붓다가 가졌던 문제의식으로 돌아가자는 거다. 기독교도 마찬가지다.
그래서[ 진리로서의 종교]가 있고 [믿음으로서의 종교]가 있다. 믿음으로서의 종교는 내 종교가 가장 옳다하는 확신이 있어야 종교가 성립한다. 그래서 종교간에 갈등이 빚어지는 것은 필연적입니다. 부부가 싸움을 하면 하루만에 화해를 할 수 있다. 나라간 전쟁을 하면 30년이면 화해를 한다. 종교는 전쟁을 하면 1000년이 가도 해결이 안된다. 종교가 평화를 가르치는데, 왜 이런 모순이 생기느냐, 그것은 종교의 성격이 오직 자기만이 옳다는 믿음을 기초로 하고 있기 때문이다. 그러나 진리로서의 종교는 오히려 진실을 추구하기 때문에 세상을 보는 눈이 넓어지고, 다양한 것을 다른 것을 인정하고, 서로 함께 협력할 수 있는 길이 열립니다. 그래서 신앙으로서 믿음으로서의 종교는 개인의 영역으로 맡겨두자. 왜냐하면 믿음은 개인의 자유이기 때문에, 그것은 옳다 그르다 논의할 필요가 없다. 믿음을 그렇게 따질 수 있는 것이 아니다. 그러나 젊은 세대는 진리로서의 종교를 살펴야한다. 과연 무엇이 진리인가 그것이 기독교에서 보든 불교에서 보든 과학으로보든 그런 제약을 떨쳐야합니다. 그런 관점에 선다면, 관념의 벽이 무너지고, 지혜가 정득되고 실천적인 행동이 나오게 된다. 그래서 전통종교는 존중을 하되, 그러나 거기에 너무 연연할 필요는 없다.
옛날에는 폐쇠된 조건에서 살았기 때문에, 자기 민족 인종 종교 이런 것에 국집했다. 그래서 배타성을 가질 수 밖에 없었다. 지금 우리는 세계가 열려있다. 많은 인종과 민족 종교가 섞여산다. 그래서 우리는 새로운 안목을 가져야 한다. 과거의 종교는 3천년 5천년 원시시대에는 사람이 그렇게 생각할 수 있었다. 우리가 그것을 추종할 필요는 없다 부정할 필요도 없다. 그때는 인간의 인식수준이 그렇게 밖에 되지 않았다. 우리는 이제 다른 세계에 살고 있다. 그래서 우리는 열린 마음으로 임했으면 좋겠다.
우아... 너무 멋진 말씀이라, 글로 남기고 싶었습니다. 너무 길었다면 죄송합니다.
[Google Translation]
Traditional Buddhism is Buddhism that prays for good fortune. Make a lot of money, make you pass the exam, make you heal, this is most of the time. It does two things. If you see a lot of money, you are blessed. If you go to bow and pray a lot, you will be blessed a lot. All are similar. This is traditional Buddhism, and all religions are.
However, these religions have little to do with the teachings of Shakyamuni Buddha or Jesus. It is good to leave the issues of Buddhism and Christianity as religions. Since everyone has a desire, we have no choice but to rely on it. This is a history from the primitive times. But the Buddha said this was not desirable. So he opened a new path. However, even Buddhism has entered its original path. So, what we have to think about today is not to go back to the original Buddha's words, but to go back to the past, but to return to the consciousness of problems that the Buddha had. The same goes for Christianity.
So there is [religion as truth] and there is [religion as faith]. Religion as a belief is established only when you have the confidence that your religion is the most right. So, it is inevitable that conflicts between religions arise. When a couple fights, they can reconcile in a day. If there is a war between countries, reconciliation takes place in 30 years. Religion cannot be resolved even after 1,000 years of war. Religion teaches peace, why this contradiction arises, because the nature of religion is based on the belief that only it is right. However, since religion as truth rather seeks truth, the eyes of the world are widened, and the way to recognize different things and cooperate with each other is opened. So, let's leave religion as faith as faith in the personal realm. Because faith is an individual's freedom, there is no need to discuss it right or wrong. It is not something that can be said about faith. But the younger generation should look at religion as truth. What is the truth, whether it is seen in Christianity, Buddhism, or science, such restrictions must be lifted. If you stand in such a point of view, the walls of ideas break down, wisdom is acquired, and practical actions emerge. So, while respecting traditional religion, there is no need to dwell too much on it.
In the old days, because they lived in closed conditions, they concentrated on such things as their ethnicity, ethnicity and religion. So I had to have exclusivity. Now we have an open world. Many races and ethnic religions are mixed. So we must take a new look. The religion of the past was 3,000 years and 5,000 years, and in the primitive age, man could think so. We don't have to follow it, we don't have to deny it. At that time, the level of human perception was only that way. We now live in a different world. So, I hope we will work with an open mind.
Wow... It's such a wonderful word, I wanted to write it. Sorry if it was too long.
Greetings from India🇮🇳
That was a wise answer by really a humble human being..😊😊😊😆😍
thats so amazing
통역하는 형님 거침없다. 좋아요!
That's. Greatest....We. Love. The. Great. Inspirational. Our. Great. Sunim........
Buddhism means believing in karma....not believing in praying
That’s not what he was trying to say, he was trying to say traditions Buddhism as Practiced by lay people came to be like that over time. He explains that a few more minutes into the video
Very inspiring, Thanks!
Thank you for this wonderful teaching (and the impressive translation)!
Thank you so much for your deep insight Venerable Pomnyun Sunim!
Namo buddhaya im buddhist indonesia
@@user-ng7ri8qj9k yes every thing is fine.
@@user-ng7ri8qj9k namaste. In malesiya i dont know
But in my country to be fine. In my country any 5 religion. We life together...love and caring
Apa kabar? Saya orang Korea.
Senang sekali berjumpa anda.
The gateway to all delusion: Seeing, Hearing, Touching, Tasting, Smelling, Thinking, our friends the 6 senses "We will learn together !" The way of Buddhism is Enlightenment !!!!! May all living beings find there happiness !
So true...faith vs truth
좋은말씀 감사합니다.
Bengali buddhists are a GEM!😁🙏. Bangla use to be one of the MAIN CENTERS for buddhism and was very influential in spreading buddhism into east asia. Hopefully bangla can return to its past glory days🙏🇧🇩☸. We bow 2 u great sir😊🙏
Thank you for your great teaching, Sunim. We can all be a pioneer!💪
Awesome interpreter
역시 법륜 스님! 최고의 말씀입니다. 불교 기독교 따지지 마라. 둘다 해도 된다. 옳은 말씀입니다.
Thank you, Pomnyun sunim for the amazing words. #pomnyun, #JungtoSociety
Thank you, Pomnyun sunim for the amazing answer. #pomnyun, #JungtoSociety
Thanks for Ven. Suminum
This is great insight about religion and practice. Thank you for your wisdom! I would also like to thank the interpreter! #pomnyun
Wise answer.
Thank you for sharing your wisdom with others. #pomnyun, #JungtoSociety
Thank you...sunim!!
Thank you Sunim
Buddha's said ; Good Deeds bring good results, bad days being bad results, your own deeds bring your own results.
But who are Buddhists praying to? Have they elevated the Buddha to godhood? Buddhism is certainly a beautiful philosophy.
Buddhists don't pray to any deity. The Buddha was clear that there is no first cause, no supreme being, no creator deity. Read 'What The Buddha Taught,' by Ven. Walpola Rahula for an idea of what Buddhism actually teaches.
The Buddha is an example of a regular human being who worked hard to attain enlightenment, so can you..we don’t pray, we pay respect to all of the enlightenment beings who traveled the hard road to achieve enlightenment. I’m glad you respect Buddhist philosophy!
Please come to india as we are tried of identifying as religion.For hindus ,buddhist,jain or sikh there is nothing called religion but we commonly use dharma.So dharma means one aspect of truth not like religion based beliefs of christian,muslim or jews which is the only truth that they claimed to have.So let's define what is dharma and state identifying ourselves as hindu dharma or buddha dharma which always create harmony and inclusiveness.
Thank you for your teaching. #pomnyun, #JungtoSociety
Oh my good! The monk is so wise and immensely intelligent! I have got great respect. Can anybody tell me about this great monk!
Om mane padne hum!
His name is Pomnyun , 법륜 in korean
Thank you for the teaching. #pomnyun, #JungtoSociety
Amazing answer and so wise. #pomnyun, #JungtoSociety
What a great insight! #pomnyun, #JungtoSociety
감사드려요 ㅎㅎ
Truth liberates! #pomnyun, #JungtoSociety
Thank you for your great teaching! #pomnyun, #JungtoSociety
Wow, what a good translator!
It is very helpful. Thank you. #pomnyun, #JungtoSociety
Profound explanation! I like this. #pomnyun, #JungtoSociety
Wonderful lecture! #pomnyun, #JungtoSociety
Amazing explanation! #pomnyun, #JungtoSociety
Paying the temple, or bowing... That is not what the Buddha taught! It's the religion they built on his name.
It would do us good if the monks / priests who make up the religion followed a bit more the early texts, the Agamas and the Nikayas. There are lots of very good answers to our modern problem there. And it's certainly closer to what the Buddha may have taught 🙏
Please stop embarrassing yourself like this. You have no idea what the Buddha taught.
This is an amazing lecture. #pomnyun, #JungtoSociety
I am Indian hindu . Lord buddhu is also our God. In hindu religion Lord Buddhu was an avatar of our God . Buddhism is integral part of hinduisim.
Bappy Roy
You are totally wrong...
Buddha is not mentioned as an Avatar of Vishnu in the more ancient Vaishnava Texts known as Pancharatra. His place there is taken by Balarama.
Adopting Buddha into the Hindu pantheon was a way of trying to neutralize the popularity of Buddhism.
Buddhism as an organised religion actually predates modern Hinduism. The First Buddhist council was a gathering of senior monks of the Buddhist order convened just after the Buddha’s death in 400 BCE. At this time there was no such religion as Hinduism - the dominant religion was known as Brahmanism which consisted of 6 major philosophical sects:-
Hinduism as we know it today can be attributed to the pioneering work of Shankaracharya 788 to 820 CE who consolidated the 5 modern Hindu Sects and established the 10 orders of Hindu monks (dasa-nāma-sanyāsis) based on the Buddhist model and established four great pontifical seats on the four points of the compass. Most Hindus today are associated with one or other of these four pontifical seats.
You should try to read the real history of india and not the fake one's spreaded by Rss....
"all religions teach this" what a grotesque simplification, generalisation and mischaracterisation, but yeah if one falsely labels others who are following some traditional religion as superstitious that makes one look better, doesn't it
The teacher's ecumenical encouragement is admirable, but the notion of a Buddhist-Christian or Christian-Buddhist is a little silly except in a superficial kind of marriage. At the heart of both teachings, there is a fundamental incompatibility.
Isn't this what the Baha'i religion is about? A somewhat combination of many religions?
You are right
On the contrary, it’s in the superficialities that the differences lie. Underneath is a deep harmony.
@@EzraWilson1 That's true, if you go deep enough. All religions and spirituality ultimately spring from the same root. But you won't find that kind of depth in orthodox Christianity and conventional Western religions. You would have to explore Christian mysticism. And if you do go that deep, you would be labeled heterodox by your church peers.
Pakistan is regarded as the birthplace of the Mahayana Buddhism and famous mystics and philosophers of the faith including Asanga, Vasubhandha, Guru Rinpoche and Monk Marananta. Asanga and Vasubhandha were from Peshawar or old Purushapura. Guru Rinpoche or Padmasambhava was a native of Swat who took the message of the faith to Tibet and the lands far beyond. Monk Marananta who travelled from his hometown in Swabi to Korea to preach Buddhism. This session will focus on the origin and development of Buddhist thought in Gandhara. Mahayana Buddhism arise and flourish during the reign of king kanishka of kushan dynasty. Mahayana Buddhism were separated from hinayana sect in Buddhist council held in peshwar.
영상 제목과 영상 내용이 살짝 불일치 하네요. 어떤 질문에 대한 추가 질문에 대한 답변인 것 같은데, 이전 대화내용이 어땠는지 모르니 조금 불일치가 생깁니다.
와 즉석 번역자님 집중 하느라고 머리에 핏대 스셨어 ㅋㅋㅋㅋ 게다가 스님 템포가 워낙 빨라서 ㅋㅋㅋ
Korean Buddhism was same with that of China until Wonhyeo of Silla changed everything. From that Wonhyeo's teaching Korean Buddhism changed a lot. Wonhyeo insist that faith & truth is entirely up to how individual believes. If you think this guy is joke then it's joke to you don't think others will think same as you. Chinese failed to understand this very often.
Buddhism #pomnyun, #jungtosociety
Don't discriminate against religion. You can be both christian and buddhist at the same time! That's the teaching of both Buddha and Jesus. Don't draw a line.
That's not true. Buddhism and cristianism are two different religions with different worldviews, despite the similarities between them.
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11:48 that dubious smile hahaha
Buddhism is not different only culture difference, Buddhism is the only one in the world but culture different From Bangladesh Buddhist people.
This guy gets it. All faith traditions contain an element of chicanery left over from ancient magic. BUT the con artists do not define the religion itself; they simply pervert it for the wrong ends.
Namo budhay
Buddha and Jesus are like nice fellows.....but no-one is willing to do as told.
Buddha and Jesus were not like that.
All that modern day mishmash-mindfull-poop.
No-one has to do nothing.
Ps. Monk said right things about Jesus
석가모니 붓다는 분별심을
없애라고 가르치는데,
너무 단편적으로 불교의 역사를 보는것 같다.
기복신앙만 있는게 아니다
한국불교 공부를 더깊게 하기를...
💛🧡
He used a very discursive way to explain his answer the the question....
❤Buddhist Christian❤
Can I get a tl;Dr?
The nature of Buddhism, of faith in general, is to not be stuck to one specific way. With Buddhism not declaring who or what [God] is, faith and truth are personalized to each individual. And any contradictions of "what is suppose to be" is in itself, a falsehood. Only you can decide what you believe in.
For the literal "by the book" definition, (most) Chinese Buddhism is an individual pursuit. (Most) Korean Buddhism is about congregation, sharing with others.
Buddha attained nirvana coz of his good deeds and enlightenment unlike Jesus who was crucified for claiming being the son of God. Buddha never claimed to be anyone's son, nor did he call himself a God.
The question was not answered properly at all. Perhaps he didn't catch it.
She is right, in Korean buddhism there is a lot of emphasis on what they call "together action"... It's specific to Korean culture. They don't like to practice or do anything alone that much.
No he understood exactly.
However, your understanding seems to be insufficient to understand his answer.
It is the correct Sutra not Chinese or Korean or Japanese Buddhism.
It's too bad that the interpretation isn't accurate. 해석이 정확하지 않습니다.
Never prayed for anything in Buddhism personally...he's talking about organised religions but not personal spirituality 🤷 totally different, also doesn't answer her question
Why is this monk so obsessed with Christianity? I thought the question is about the difference between Chinese & Korean Buddhism.
저 중국애 무슨 ㅂ ㅂ같은 질문인지
The translator missed all the nuances and is fumbling too much. He committed a grave mistake!!!! He's adding his own personal interpretations rather than translating what the monk is saying. That's the number one unprofessional practice of an interpreter.
You'd only be able to understand what I'm saying if you're fluent in both languages.
Korean always like to glorify itself. to properly say, it does not exist any Korean version of Buddhism. There is only a Chinese Buddhism of which many schools spread over Korea, Japan, Vietnam.
누가 들으면 불교가 중국에서 나온줄 알겠네.
Chinese people are always glorifying themselves while looking down on others. The whole world is laughing at China and China is the only country doing the opposite. How ridiculous lol
AKDGsonic Incorrect. Chinese Buddhism was spread from India, by an Indian monk named BodhiDharma. Actually, Chinese Buddhists are following Indian Buddhism. Even Chan禪 derives from (Jhana: Pali, Dhyana: Sanskrit) get ur facts right :)
Do u know a korean monk, Won Hyo? He provided a key concept in East Asia Buddhism. Chinese masters who were heavily influenced by Wonhyo include Fazang, Li Tongxuan, and Chengguan. The Japanese monks Gyonen, Zenshu and Joto of the Kegon school were also influenced by him.
And Kim Gyo-gak(Jin Qiaojue) was a Korean Buddhist monk believed to be the manifestation of Ksitigarbha in China.
Did you even watch the video? You are literally judging a book by its cover. In this case, it's not a book, but a video. lol.
Thank you for sharing your wisdom with others. #pomnyun, #JungtoSociety
Thank you for your teaching. #pomnyun, #JungtoSociety
It is very helpful. Thank you. #pomnyun, #JungtoSociety