To me the only two things I did not like about this movie where the colors filters, and the love story of Marcus and Blaire everything else i did enjoy.
People hate it because the future side of it was so different from the terminator 1 and 2 future. Where are the laser guns and the dark cyberpunk atmosphere?
YESSSS. Finally someone who dosent think this movie is complete shit. Hell even the director says it’s shit, legitimately not that bad. people just don’t like the sequels just because their nowhere near as good as the first 2.
If I know him, we have the same tastes, and he's going to say "Terminator Salvation is actually entertaining" unlike everyone else who hates this movie. TS actually gave me hope that we'd see the future wars.
At the end when John Conner tells Kyle to keep his coat. THAT would have been a perfect time for Kyle to find the picture of Sarah in the pocket. Great review, we have very similar thoughts about Salvation
Fantastic intro Cody, Terminator : Salvation is convoluted movie in that the movie is not half bad-it has very good performances. I just can't get over Christian Bale doing John Conner in his Batman voice, Sam Worthington is great as the human who doesn't realize he's been turned into a cyborg. This should have really just called this movie Terminator: Future Wars, I give it a 3.5 and it is definitely a lot better than T3 and I haven't been able to sit through all of Terminator : Genesisy.
Great review. I personally don’t like this film but was very interested in hearing someone who likes it. If you haven’t read the comic book: “Salvation: The Final Battle”, it was a 12 Part series published by Dark Horse in 2014 that bravely carries the name of Salvation and continues the story established from the plot points set up in this film, as well as the first three, showing the war from both John and Skynet’s perspective and actually giving a satisfying and logical conclusion to the saga before Genysis even came out. As a fan of the first two films, I can say it’s worth the read if you want a story that embraces the bad as well as the good, culminating into a surprisingly emotional and epic ending to the story.
I really like this movie. I have issues with it, but I think it's definitely underrated. The sequence towards the end where the Terminator is chasing John through the Skynet headquarters is really well-done, and harkened back to the horror tone of the first film in a way that I thought was super effective.
The reason why Skynet knows about that kind of stuff is because its a sequel to terminator 3. It's not a prequel to Terminator 1. (This is kind of that strange middle ground where things are self fulfilling prophecies) You even have a clip where John Connor is telling Marcus (Addressing him as if he was Skynet) "You tried killing my mom, Sarah Connor"
Cody!!! Once again great review. I was just telling Chris over at 3c reviews how much I love this movie and you review today...totally kick ass. Wish I coulda seen more of Bale as John Conner.
@@KD_Smoove Like he said, he never said it was better than T1 and T2. Maybe learn to read? (And write too, while you're at it lol.) Let this be a lesson for you to properly read comments before you insult someone over the internet, you never know when you'll mistakenly make a fool of yourself. Now take your L in shame you absolute clown XD!
Terminator Salvation : wants to start a trilogy that eventually gets acncelled after 1 movie. Terminator Genisys : wants to start a trilogy that never gets a sequel... making one solid terminator movie without relying on any future movies isnt too much to ask ...
i definitely think salvation isn't a bad film. i've been trying to understand why people don't like it...i mean, it's a masterpiece in comparison to genisys and .....dark fate...two of the worse in the franchise.
Yeah I agree. Honestly I’m new to the Terminator franchise and obviously the first two films are easily the best, but Salvation was my favorite post T2 film by a long shot.
To be honest I actually like terminator salvation because they wanted to try something different like follow John Connor story in the series without Arnold and I like how they made a new story about the humans going to war with skynet and the terminators and I really enjoyed Christian Bale's performance as John Connor in terminator salvation
To the People and the critics that hated on this movie, you got us genesis and dark fate, that blood is on your hands. I'm glad the director and producers got the last laugh. Good review btw. I'm not bothering with dark fate btw.
@il100374 even though salvation has its problem I think it was ok it tried to atleast do something different but for me I put t1 over t2 the only thing I like about t2 over t1 is t1000 but John Connor annoyed me in t2
Huh... It's been years since I've seen this one, but I could have sworn that I have seen a scene in it where John gives Kyle that picture of Sarah. It confused the poor kid, but it planted the seeds. I even remember smiling because I saw that it was the Linda Hamilton picture from the first two films.
Also remember, John Connor was thrown around 4 or 5 times in this movie instead of having his throat crushed or heart ripped out instantly by a T-600 or T-800. That plot armor is STRONG.
If you're referring to Marcus, you also gotta keep in mind he still had a human brain, which could definitely still get rocked around after getting hit on his metallic skull, Common put some UMPH in that hit 😅
I was so hyped for this movie when it came out, so hyped I fell asleep on it in the theater. The movie itself has aged well though, especially considering it's competition as far as the sequels.
Honestly, if they ever do another show then having it take place during the war could be great if it was done well. You can have an ensemble cast with season long arcs with a series arc playing the whole way through.
I love the Terminator films, as much as I always wanted to see a Terminator film about the man vs machine war, Salvation just didn't deliver for me. I appreciate it for trying that angle, but it just felt like any other post apocalyptic war movie for me. I tried very hard to love this one, but it missed the mark for me. As always, great video Cody.
I really liked Salvation. From all the call backs with Sarah Connors tapes. Not to mention they utilized Johns hacking skills in this movie too. Christian Bale as John Connor was great. I was highly entertained by this movie and they finally gave us a movie about the future war. Watching this video makes me want to pull this movie out of my special edition blu ray box set and watch it again.
I thought this was a good movie but my problem with it is it feels more like a mad max movie than a terminator movie. Like in the first 2 movies you see glimpses of the future that’s more dark with laser guns, like a cyberpunk aspect to it where this one it’s like desert landscape, more lit up like mad max or the book of Eli.
Yeah I agree. Honestly I’m new to the Terminator franchise and obviously the first two films are easily the best, but Salvation was my favorite post T2 film by a long shot.
The fifth movie should have followed from this one, and it should have showed the Resistance acquiring/perfecting plasma weapons. And I agree that Anton Yelchin played Kyle Reese perfectly. You could tell that he studied Michael Biehn. 10:15 It would have been too early at this point in the saga.
10:20 Fun fact: there is a deleted scene of Terminator Salvation where Kyle is burying Marcus, and has a resistance uniform. Kyle then finds the picture of Sarah in his pocket.
A lot of people whinged because they never had the plasma weapons you see in the futuristic battles in T2 -T3. If they had have been patient, you would have seen that in the following movies. The machines would have created them. Then the resistance would have stole the technology & beef up their weapons the same to keep up the fight. I really hope somebody continues this story on & finishes it they way it should be.
My uncle took me, my brother, and some of my cousins to the theater to watch Terminator Salvation when I was 9, and damn, I remember just losing my mind when seeing everything unfold, and of course, when CGI Arnold showed up (even if it's just fan service), which I personally think (then and now) is a nice addition to the movie.
Been curious about your thoughts on this one. :) I like it!! I really like the first half of the film and war aspect. What I don’t like about it is the third act where it becomes important that Kyle Reese survive. That’s when it felt like the first three, which bothered me. What puts this one at number four for me is the fact that I loved the ballsy ending of Terminator 3. Salvation is great because it’s different. Definitely underrated. Great thoughts. Anton Yelchin was great as Reese!! :) 1. Terminator 2: Judgment Day 2. The Terminator 3. Terminator 3: Rise of the Machines 4. Terminator Salvation 5. Terminator: Genisys
I love this movie and consider it the true sequel to T2. Great origin story for John Connor and the same time also an introduction to the T-800 model. Great review as always Cody!
I recently rewatched this film this past weekend. Had a great time. Thought to myself “was this that good this whole time” solid movie. Great review too bro!
It’s definitely underrated. Salvation is one of my three favorite Terminator movies after the original and T2: Judgement Day. I’m actually quite fond of both Christian Bale and Sam Worthington in this movie. I’m not really interested in the other three movies including Dark Fate. I have absolutely no interest in watching Genesis. I hear it really sucks and I’m sure that it does. Instead of focusing on the four Avatar sequels, James Cameron really needs to focus on the future of the Terminator franchise.
COULDNT AGREE MORE!!!!!....... At last someone actually talking sense about this mythology / series of movies.....Salvation set in the future & had the courage to do what most of us wanted!!!! Def best entry since T2.
Haa haaaaa!! Cody, you and CP are hilarious! This opening skit made me laugh. Great review! I have not seen any Terminator films beyond the second one. I may check this one out......🤗🤘🏽🤘🏽☠️
I'm a fan of Salvation too. When sequels change the setting, and do it well like Rogue One, Army of Darkness, (I know you'll hate this but I enjoyed it) Annabelle Comes Home, and Salvation, it adds a good variety to the franchise. After Star Wars and Star Trek, this is my favorite and in my opinion most consistently good Sci Fi franchise.
The reason why Skynet knows about Kyle Reese has the same reason why this war started in 2003 instead of 1997. It considers Terminator 3 canon. And the TX probably uploaded data to Skynet telling it about Kyle Reese, in an effort to get a tactical advantage
In My Opinion I Like The T800 That John Faces Its A T-Rip Short For Terminator Retro Infiltration Prototype So What I Picture In My Head Is That It's Before Skynet Got The Face Right To Look Like Arnold
I love this movie so much. Tbh my top 3 Terminator Movies in order are #1 Terminator 2, #2 Terminator Salvation, and #3 The Terminator. Yes i like Terminator Salvation more then The Terminator.
the best thing about Salvation was the portrayal of the T-800 endoskeleton in the third act... very T1ish, menacing, practical, and very tough! Everything else was a mess, pretty boring overall, including Bale's unconvincing and overacted peformance as adult John Connor. Harvester Terminators, hydro terminators & moto terminators were kind of silly too. Also had no emotion, no terminator theme, no arnold (not that you need him) and no future war that matched Cameron's initial vision - it wasn't nightmarish, people weren't starving and living in ruins and alleyways... struggling to survive... a lot of daytime scenes too and familiar action from the previous 3 films... Sam Worthington's character also didn't do anything for me. I remember being disappointed after seeing it in the theaters. I like Salvation better than T3 though since it tried something different. I also like the extended trailer with that Nine-Inch Nails song more than the actual movie!
I always loved this movie, however, I do feel like Marcus could've been handled differently, because it doesn't make sense why Skynet wouldn't of just "activated" his terminator brain and killed kyle and john when he had the chance. They had so many chances of giving explanations but just chose not to. That's one thing this movie suffers from, character actions that make no sense. Like the terminators constantly throwing John. They could've easily changed the choreography so that John is always JUST out of reach, or manages to slip away at the last second as the terminators try and punch his heart or his head
In regards to how Skynet knows about Kyle Reese and their multiple failures to kill John Conner through time travel, the T-X in Terminator 3 could’ve uploaded all that information into Skynet while activating the machines as Skynet was becoming self-aware.
I still to this day want them to continue and finish the Salvation trilogy. We were robbed of that all of us patiently waited all those years finally get to the Future War only for them to reboot it
I don't like that it's PG-13. I think an R rating would have really benefited. :) I LOVE the look of the main terminators. They're so huge and menacing.
It’s a pretty cool Terminator anthology movie, but It’s seems sometimes that it doesn’t know if it wants to be a Terminator movie or just a normal anthology. Another example is that they don’t know who the antagonist is. Is it John Conner? Is it Kyle Reese? Is it Sam Worthington? It has some good aspects, but it is very unfocused.
Just curious Cody. Did you watch the director's cut of this movie or the theatrical version? I own the director's cut on blu ray and I think it's better. Your thoughts?
honestly I always WANTED the future story for Terminator and always wanted it to go to that part of the Timeline.. For me? My list is as follows.. 1). Terminator 2). T2 3). Salvation 4). Genesys 3). T3
side note: I think Skynet wanted John because they wanted to make an infiltrator unit in his likeness and I think Marcus was the hint and I really wish we got to see this trilogy.. because it was supposed to be a trilogy..
Here’s a problem with this movie. In 2018, how does Skynet know Kyle Reese will be a big threat? There was no record of him in 1984, so there’s no way it could know.
It's a paradox, without time travel john never gets born, and reese is needed to make john, and due to the events of the time travel part of the terminator is left behind so they know about reese in the long run. It is not clear if the first terminator movie was the first time time travel happened, which logically it wasn't since john is created through time travel.
For those of you who would like a conclusion to Terminator Salvation try seeking out the comic book mini series "Terminator Salvation The Final Battle" written by J. Michael Straczynski (the creator of Babylon 5). It's actually really good and not only concludes Salvation but gives a conclusion to the whole Terminator saga!
I liked TS.... I rank my #3 in the franchise. T2 and T1 top spots. Its a fresh take. The effects were great. Acting great. Its the only one after the 3rd turd that doesnt give me a headache figuring out what the story is and how the characters got there.... Damn these have gotten soooooo convoluted with stories....
Read the comic Terminator Salvation The Final Battle! It is a sequel to this and acts as the Endgame of the series and wraps up everything perfectly! It covers up every loose end!
Finally found someone who felt this movie wasn't sh*tty. Thank you, didn't understand why so many hated this movie. And you're right we got to see the earlier models.
So I also think this is a good Terminator film. My favorite is the original then T2 and then Salvation. No stupid humor, good effects, reasonable story, good actors, lots of action, intimidating enemy. basically everything that makes a Terminator movie good. It's a good idea to watch this movie first, then The Terminator, then T2. After that, you just have to forget that there are any more Terminator movies. Then you just have a good film trilogy.
I agree with you for the most part, Cody. My biggest issue with this movie, along with all the crap logic in the plot, is the importance of Sam Worthington's character. This should really be John Connor's story, but instead he shares the spotlight with this new character we're just meeting. We've just gotten through three movies where Connor either hasn't been born yet, or is a kid, or is a wimpy little hipster bitch... And I just wanted him to be center stage. But here, it almost feels like Worthington is the main character. Christian Bale finally gives us a great John Connor who is a badass, but then Marcus gets to do most of the cool, badass shit! I feel like Marcus should have been just a small side character, or not in the movie at all. Plus, the CGI on him at the end when he's all ripped up just looks silly. Worthington did a good job, and honestly, he would have been a good John Connor too, but I just didn't like the way they did it here...
I love this movie.. I agree the Kyle Reese plot thing … but here’s my thing , T2 has a logic flaw and thats the ending.. If both John and Sara were successful in preventing SYNET from creation then JOHN should have ceased to exist because SKYNET created the time machine not the human resistance.. no SKYNET means no time machine so KYLE REESE cannot go back in time .. so noJOHN CONNOR. The 3rd film attempted to rectify that be having the T800 explain that fact to John .
I have to finish to see this movie tomorrow night, but I hated how they constantly use phrases from the original films. By the way, when John plays “You could be mine” I stopped the movie. I doesn’t work in this movie at all. But besides that and Markus make up I really like it so far.
Totally agree that this is a strong #3 in the franchise. I really like this film. Totally agree the marketing smooched the pooch revealing too much about Worthington’s character.
Love Terminator: Salvation! Never understood why people would shit on this movie. Super underrated.
People keep asking for john connor leading the resistance when we already got it lol.
Agreed
To me the only two things I did not like about this movie where the colors filters, and the love story of Marcus and Blaire everything else i did enjoy.
Well marcus wriht sucks but its definitely the most faithful movie Post T2
People hate it because the future side of it was so different from the terminator 1 and 2 future. Where are the laser guns and the dark cyberpunk atmosphere?
Terminator: The Sarah Connor Chronicles and Terminator Salvation were the most unique entries in this whole franchise
The Sarah Connor chronicles is good 👍
My favourite is Mel Gibson playing John McClane in Terminator: First Blood
At least the “Come with me if you wanna live” line is consistent with that character.
Agree 100% ..never ever understood the hate this movie gets. A truly underappreciated hidden gem in this franchise
YESSSS. Finally someone who dosent think this movie is complete shit. Hell even the director says it’s shit, legitimately not that bad. people just don’t like the sequels just because their nowhere near as good as the first 2.
This movie had a comic sequel
Yeah none of the sequels are bad it’s just the first 2 are so good
RIP Anton Yelchin he was so great as a young Kyle Reese, and was great in other things to, like Star Trek.
If I know him, we have the same tastes, and he's going to say "Terminator Salvation is actually entertaining" unlike everyone else who hates this movie. TS actually gave me hope that we'd see the future wars.
TS was the start of the future wars.
@@deanwilliams8159 Actually the end of Terminator 3 was the start of the future wars
At the end when John Conner tells Kyle to keep his coat. THAT would have been a perfect time for Kyle to find the picture of Sarah in the pocket. Great review, we have very similar thoughts about Salvation
Film Trigger It was in a deleted scene.
@@MarioFaker was it really? Oh cool! Doesn't make sense why they would delete it, though.
@@FilmTrigger Yeah if they honestly included the deleted scene, it would have made Salvation's ending much more complete in my opinion.
"Hates Michael Myers"
"Didn't get Midsommar"
Aiight Time to Terminate
Midsummer is pretentious fucking garbage
Fantastic intro Cody, Terminator : Salvation is convoluted movie in that the movie is not half bad-it has very good performances. I just can't get over Christian Bale doing John Conner in his Batman voice, Sam Worthington is great as the human who doesn't realize he's been turned into a cyborg. This should have really just called this movie Terminator: Future Wars, I give it a 3.5 and it is definitely a lot better than T3 and I haven't been able to sit through all of Terminator : Genesisy.
sameeee
That intro tho😂
6. Genysis
5. T3
4. Dark Fate
3. The Terminator
2. Salvation
1. Terminator 2
Yep, Salvation is my second favorite.
Bold...I like it
Salvation
@@CodyLeachYT Thank you
quokan you’ve watched dark fate?
My exact same list. This movie is solid.
Great review. I personally don’t like this film but was very interested in hearing someone who likes it.
If you haven’t read the comic book: “Salvation: The Final Battle”, it was a 12 Part series published by Dark Horse in 2014 that bravely carries the name of Salvation and continues the story established from the plot points set up in this film, as well as the first three, showing the war from both John and Skynet’s perspective and actually giving a satisfying and logical conclusion to the saga before Genysis even came out.
As a fan of the first two films, I can say it’s worth the read if you want a story that embraces the bad as well as the good, culminating into a surprisingly emotional and epic ending to the story.
Dude, I agree with everything you say here. We are TOTALLY on the same page with this one.
I really like this movie. I have issues with it, but I think it's definitely underrated. The sequence towards the end where the Terminator is chasing John through the Skynet headquarters is really well-done, and harkened back to the horror tone of the first film in a way that I thought was super effective.
The reason why Skynet knows about that kind of stuff is because its a sequel to terminator 3. It's not a prequel to Terminator 1.
(This is kind of that strange middle ground where things are self fulfilling prophecies)
You even have a clip where John Connor is telling Marcus (Addressing him as if he was Skynet)
"You tried killing my mom, Sarah Connor"
Cody!!! Once again great review. I was just telling Chris over at 3c reviews how much I love this movie and you review today...totally kick ass. Wish I coulda seen more of Bale as John Conner.
Cecil's threat level being "Glen/Glenda" made me laugh.
This is my favorite Terminator movie, mainly because it's something different. I really wish that we had gotten the rest of the trilogy.
Lmao youre sick, ts is not better then the original 2… 🤣🤡
@@KD_Smoove
I never said this is the best Terminator movie. I just said that it's my favorite Terminator movie.
@@KD_Smoove Like he said, he never said it was better than T1 and T2. Maybe learn to read? (And write too, while you're at it lol.) Let this be a lesson for you to properly read comments before you insult someone over the internet, you never know when you'll mistakenly make a fool of yourself. Now take your L in shame you absolute clown XD!
@@KD_Smoove James Cameron will never make another one for you so chill tf out. lol
@@yani2499he said he wants to, and he wants to do it from the perspective of Skynet. Now THAT could be interesting.
Terminator Salvation : wants to start a trilogy that eventually gets acncelled after 1 movie. Terminator Genisys : wants to start a trilogy that never gets a sequel... making one solid terminator movie without relying on any future movies isnt too much to ask ...
It's not too difficult to make you mean.
i definitely think salvation isn't a bad film. i've been trying to understand why people don't like it...i mean, it's a masterpiece in comparison to genisys and .....dark fate...two of the worse in the franchise.
I have lots of nostalgia for T4 seeing it in theaters, I was 12 when it came out.
Nathan Oswald same for me was 13
Sammmeee
Wow. Someone else remembers “This Means War”.
i know i'm late the the party on this video but thank GOD someone likes this movie as much as i do
Yeah I agree. Honestly I’m new to the Terminator franchise and obviously the first two films are easily the best, but Salvation was my favorite post T2 film by a long shot.
Threat level: Glenn/Glenda 😂
And of course YIKES
To be honest I actually like terminator salvation because they wanted to try something different like follow John Connor story in the series without Arnold and I like how they made a new story about the humans going to war with skynet and the terminators and I really enjoyed Christian Bale's performance as John Connor in terminator salvation
To the People and the critics that hated on this movie, you got us genesis and dark fate, that blood is on your hands. I'm glad the director and producers got the last laugh. Good review btw. I'm not bothering with dark fate btw.
This one is pretty good, wouldn't make my top 3, but it's a nice refreshing film after T3, still like T3 though
hmmm. very interesting. which Terminator would take your number 3 spot then?
@il100374 even though salvation has its problem I think it was ok it tried to atleast do something different but for me I put t1 over t2 the only thing I like about t2 over t1 is t1000 but John Connor annoyed me in t2
It was a good movie 🍿 I don’t understand why they didn’t build on it sad 😔
T-4 was a pretty good movie. But I was really happy to see Arnold show up. Even if he was CGI! :)
The body wasn’t cgi the body is Brett alcazar who did the terminator sent back in gensis at the beginning and was arnold in some biographies
My timeline as I see it
The Terminator
The Terminator 2
Terminator: Salvation
Yes... I’m leaving out the others for a good reason.
I agree with this.
Salvation isn't a prequel, the war didn't start in 1997 as it was originally intended to, this is following T3
I really hope if you get bigger you still read the comments and engage with the audience. Keep up the good work man .
Huh... It's been years since I've seen this one, but I could have sworn that I have seen a scene in it where John gives Kyle that picture of Sarah. It confused the poor kid, but it planted the seeds. I even remember smiling because I saw that it was the Linda Hamilton picture from the first two films.
Darn it Cody the beginnings of these keeps getting me. Lol
Wasn't expecting little jump scare.
Always remember, A Terminator was knocked out with the butt of a gun in this film...
Also remember, John Connor was thrown around 4 or 5 times in this movie instead of having his throat crushed or heart ripped out instantly by a T-600 or T-800. That plot armor is STRONG.
If you're referring to Marcus, you also gotta keep in mind he still had a human brain, which could definitely still get rocked around after getting hit on his metallic skull, Common put some UMPH in that hit 😅
That intro is priceless 😂. Good review man 🤘.
I was so hyped for this movie when it came out, so hyped I fell asleep on it in the theater. The movie itself has aged well though, especially considering it's competition as far as the sequels.
I originally found t3 better than this movie now things have changed.
That clip of John Conner sounds like he is auditioning for Batman 😂
He was coming off doing the dark knight
Salvation needs to be turned into TV series
Honestly, if they ever do another show then having it take place during the war could be great if it was done well. You can have an ensemble cast with season long arcs with a series arc playing the whole way through.
I love the Terminator films, as much as I always wanted to see a Terminator film about the man vs machine war, Salvation just didn't deliver for me. I appreciate it for trying that angle, but it just felt like any other post apocalyptic war movie for me. I tried very hard to love this one, but it missed the mark for me.
As always, great video Cody.
I really liked Salvation. From all the call backs with Sarah Connors tapes. Not to mention they utilized Johns hacking skills in this movie too.
Christian Bale as John Connor was great.
I was highly entertained by this movie and they finally gave us a movie about the future war.
Watching this video makes me want to pull this movie out of my special edition blu ray box set and watch it again.
I thought this was a good movie but my problem with it is it feels more like a mad max movie than a terminator movie. Like in the first 2 movies you see glimpses of the future that’s more dark with laser guns, like a cyberpunk aspect to it where this one it’s like desert landscape, more lit up like mad max or the book of Eli.
Yeah I agree. Honestly I’m new to the Terminator franchise and obviously the first two films are easily the best, but Salvation was my favorite post T2 film by a long shot.
love the intro!
The fifth movie should have followed from this one, and it should have showed the Resistance acquiring/perfecting plasma weapons. And I agree that Anton Yelchin played Kyle Reese perfectly. You could tell that he studied Michael Biehn.
10:15 It would have been too early at this point in the saga.
10:20
Fun fact: there is a deleted scene of Terminator Salvation where Kyle is burying Marcus, and has a resistance uniform. Kyle then finds the picture of Sarah in his pocket.
A lot of people whinged because they never had the plasma weapons you see in the futuristic battles in T2 -T3. If they had have been patient, you would have seen that in the following movies. The machines would have created them. Then the resistance would have stole the technology & beef up their weapons the same to keep up the fight. I really hope somebody continues this story on & finishes it they way it should be.
Ah this film, the one that I find to be the beginning of bad Terminator films. Although I would have liked to see the Salvation trilogy
My uncle took me, my brother, and some of my cousins to the theater to watch Terminator Salvation when I was 9, and damn, I remember just losing my mind when seeing everything unfold, and of course, when CGI Arnold showed up (even if it's just fan service), which I personally think (then and now) is a nice addition to the movie.
Salvation is my second favorite Terminator film the first is T2
Been curious about your thoughts on this one. :) I like it!!
I really like the first half of the film and war aspect.
What I don’t like about it is the third act where it becomes important that Kyle Reese survive. That’s when it felt like the first three, which bothered me. What puts this one at number four for me is the fact that I loved the ballsy ending of Terminator 3.
Salvation is great because it’s different. Definitely underrated. Great thoughts. Anton Yelchin was great as Reese!! :)
1. Terminator 2: Judgment Day
2. The Terminator
3. Terminator 3: Rise of the Machines
4. Terminator Salvation
5. Terminator: Genisys
I love this movie and consider it the true sequel to T2. Great origin story for John Connor and the same time also an introduction to the T-800 model. Great review as always Cody!
God I love your intro music version of the terminator theme. Also wait wasn't Arnold in Salvation for a cameo?
Chris Hess No he only appeared as a CGI T-800. It’s the only terminator movie that doesn’t feature Arnie
Yeah. I think they CGI-d T1 Arnie over a younger actor.
I recently rewatched this film this past weekend. Had a great time. Thought to myself “was this that good this whole time” solid movie. Great review too bro!
What is the music in the background? It actually sounds awsome
It’s definitely underrated. Salvation is one of my three favorite Terminator movies after the original and T2: Judgement Day. I’m actually quite fond of both Christian Bale and Sam Worthington in this movie. I’m not really interested in the other three movies including Dark Fate. I have absolutely no interest in watching Genesis. I hear it really sucks and I’m sure that it does. Instead of focusing on the four Avatar sequels, James Cameron really needs to focus on the future of the Terminator franchise.
COULDNT AGREE MORE!!!!!....... At last someone actually talking sense about this mythology / series of movies.....Salvation set in the future & had the courage to do what most of us wanted!!!! Def best entry since T2.
That opening is fucking gold!
Haa haaaaa!! Cody, you and CP are hilarious! This opening skit made me laugh. Great review! I have not seen any Terminator films beyond the second one. I may check this one out......🤗🤘🏽🤘🏽☠️
Give it a shot it's pretty good
I also like tha call back when he plays tha music he used to listen to back in T2. Thought that was pretty neat lol
You are so creative with your intros man😀👌👏Great review as always. Can't wait for Dark Fate! 😎
And without this movie, we wouldn't have gotten one of the best actor to set people rant/insults!
"Oh good for you. How was it?!"
I laughed my ass off when I was listening to it.
I'm a fan of Salvation too. When sequels change the setting, and do it well like Rogue One, Army of Darkness, (I know you'll hate this but I enjoyed it) Annabelle Comes Home, and Salvation, it adds a good variety to the franchise. After Star Wars and Star Trek, this is my favorite and in my opinion most consistently good Sci Fi franchise.
If only this movie reduced the thickness of the plot armour...it would have been a lot better
Yeah I agree. It’s pretty obvious because it has to have John and Kyle survive to set up the first two films to feel entirely invested.
The reason why Skynet knows about Kyle Reese has the same reason why this war started in 2003 instead of 1997. It considers Terminator 3 canon. And the TX probably uploaded data to Skynet telling it about Kyle Reese, in an effort to get a tactical advantage
In My Opinion I Like The T800 That John Faces Its A T-Rip Short For Terminator Retro Infiltration Prototype So What I Picture In My Head Is That It's Before Skynet Got The Face Right
To Look Like Arnold
I love this movie so much. Tbh my top 3 Terminator Movies in order are #1 Terminator 2, #2 Terminator Salvation, and #3 The Terminator.
Yes i like Terminator Salvation more then The Terminator.
Heck yeah! Awesome intro mate! Love it!
Thanks man
the best thing about Salvation was the portrayal of the T-800 endoskeleton in
the third act... very T1ish, menacing, practical, and very tough!
Everything else was a mess, pretty boring overall, including Bale's unconvincing and overacted peformance
as adult John Connor.
Harvester Terminators, hydro terminators & moto terminators
were kind of silly too.
Also had no emotion, no terminator theme, no arnold (not that you need him)
and no future war that matched Cameron's initial vision - it
wasn't nightmarish, people weren't starving and living in ruins and alleyways...
struggling to survive... a lot of daytime scenes too and familiar action from the previous 3 films...
Sam Worthington's character also didn't do anything for me.
I remember being disappointed after seeing it in the theaters.
I like Salvation better than T3 though since it tried something different.
I also like the extended trailer with that Nine-Inch Nails song more
than the actual movie!
I always loved this movie, however, I do feel like Marcus could've been handled differently, because it doesn't make sense why Skynet wouldn't of just "activated" his terminator brain and killed kyle and john when he had the chance. They had so many chances of giving explanations but just chose not to. That's one thing this movie suffers from, character actions that make no sense. Like the terminators constantly throwing John. They could've easily changed the choreography so that John is always JUST out of reach, or manages to slip away at the last second as the terminators try and punch his heart or his head
In regards to how Skynet knows about Kyle Reese and their multiple failures to kill John Conner through time travel, the T-X in Terminator 3 could’ve uploaded all that information into Skynet while activating the machines as Skynet was becoming self-aware.
And/or the records the police had of Kyle from the first film.
I still to this day want them to continue and finish the Salvation trilogy. We were robbed of that all of us patiently waited all those years finally get to the Future War only for them to reboot it
Loved this movie, loved the game, to me its in line with T1 definitely underrated
Alpha Wolf even an arcade on rails shooter machine, which was quite fun.
😂😂😂 Great cold open!
I don't like that it's PG-13. I think an R rating would have really benefited. :) I LOVE the look of the main terminators. They're so huge and menacing.
From what I remember, the Terminators don't actually terminate people in this one. They just kinda throw people around.
What’s up Cody Leach. I love the terminator movies. But my favorite movie of all time it is Freddy’s Dead The Final Nightmare.
Samuel Pagan please tell me you’re joking.
Hillhouse Productions . Maybe
It’s a pretty cool Terminator anthology movie, but It’s seems sometimes that it doesn’t know if it wants to be a Terminator movie or just a normal anthology. Another example is that they don’t know who the antagonist is. Is it John Conner? Is it Kyle Reese? Is it Sam Worthington? It has some good aspects, but it is very unfocused.
Kevin McCanney you seem to have more of a grasp than me
Just curious Cody. Did you watch the director's cut of this movie or the theatrical version? I own the director's cut on blu ray and I think it's better. Your thoughts?
honestly I always WANTED the future story for Terminator and always wanted it to go to that part of the Timeline..
For me? My list is as follows..
1). Terminator
2). T2
3). Salvation
4). Genesys
3). T3
side note: I think Skynet wanted John because they wanted to make an infiltrator unit in his likeness and I think Marcus was the hint and I really wish we got to see this trilogy.. because it was supposed to be a trilogy..
Here’s a problem with this movie. In 2018, how does Skynet know Kyle Reese will be a big threat? There was no record of him in 1984, so there’s no way it could know.
It's a paradox, without time travel john never gets born, and reese is needed to make john, and due to the events of the time travel part of the terminator is left behind so they know about reese in the long run.
It is not clear if the first terminator movie was the first time time travel happened, which logically it wasn't since john is created through time travel.
I actually didn't see the trailer for the movie, so when Marcus turned out to be part machine, my 9 year old mind was blown.
2009 was a decent year for movies
The year of the blue people avatar
For those of you who would like a conclusion to Terminator Salvation try seeking out the comic book mini series "Terminator Salvation The Final Battle" written by J. Michael Straczynski (the creator of Babylon 5). It's actually really good and not only concludes Salvation but gives a conclusion to the whole Terminator saga!
I love all of your videos!! A fan here!! But I think the "come with me if you want to live" line was ✊ on point
I liked TS.... I rank my #3 in the franchise. T2 and T1 top spots. Its a fresh take. The effects were great. Acting great. Its the only one after the 3rd turd that doesnt give me a headache figuring out what the story is and how the characters got there.... Damn these have gotten soooooo convoluted with stories....
What I really liked with this movie is the ballistics vs terminators, in the more modern movies they're just bulletproof/ explosion proof.
Read the comic Terminator Salvation The Final Battle! It is a sequel to this and acts as the Endgame of the series and wraps up everything perfectly! It covers up every loose end!
Finally found someone who felt this movie wasn't sh*tty. Thank you, didn't understand why so many hated this movie. And you're right we got to see the earlier models.
People are crybabies about this franchise. Drives me nuts. Salvation was great.
So I also think this is a good Terminator film. My favorite is the original then T2 and then Salvation. No stupid humor, good effects, reasonable story, good actors, lots of action, intimidating enemy. basically everything that makes a Terminator movie good. It's a good idea to watch this movie first, then The Terminator, then T2. After that, you just have to forget that there are any more Terminator movies. Then you just have a good film trilogy.
One other positive! It got a pretty damn fun arcade game!
At least Terminator Salvation tried something new and it had just enough callbacks
There are some odd direction and editing choices, but on the whole it's a very entertaining move. The best of the modern Terminator films imo.
I’m curious if this review was for the directors cut. I never saw the theatrical release but saw the DC and didn’t notice the plot holes.
"Rest his peace"
Lmao
I agree with you for the most part, Cody. My biggest issue with this movie, along with all the crap logic in the plot, is the importance of Sam Worthington's character. This should really be John Connor's story, but instead he shares the spotlight with this new character we're just meeting. We've just gotten through three movies where Connor either hasn't been born yet, or is a kid, or is a wimpy little hipster bitch... And I just wanted him to be center stage. But here, it almost feels like Worthington is the main character. Christian Bale finally gives us a great John Connor who is a badass, but then Marcus gets to do most of the cool, badass shit! I feel like Marcus should have been just a small side character, or not in the movie at all. Plus, the CGI on him at the end when he's all ripped up just looks silly. Worthington did a good job, and honestly, he would have been a good John Connor too, but I just didn't like the way they did it here...
I love this movie.. I agree the Kyle Reese plot thing … but here’s my thing , T2 has a logic flaw and thats the ending.. If both John and Sara were successful in preventing SYNET from creation then JOHN should have ceased to exist because SKYNET created the time machine not the human resistance.. no SKYNET means no time machine so KYLE REESE cannot go back in time .. so noJOHN CONNOR. The 3rd film attempted to rectify that be having the T800 explain that fact to John .
6:33 don’t tell me that’s not Batman tho
Ur the best cody, love the vids dude keep doin you
Thank you
I have to finish to see this movie tomorrow night, but I hated how they constantly use phrases from the original films. By the way, when John plays “You could be mine” I stopped the movie. I doesn’t work in this movie at all. But besides that and Markus make up I really like it so far.
Totally agree that this is a strong #3 in the franchise. I really like this film. Totally agree the marketing smooched the pooch revealing too much about Worthington’s character.