Alberta pays the bills for the country, gets shut down by the federal government on our resource that pays us and those bills, then they refuse to allow us to have the voice to make changes. EFF you ON and QB, time to separate.
Spencer Dardon lol dumbest comment of the day. Yes, I think is, Albertans are under represented. But separate won’t solve anything, you do realize that, yes?
simmer down there bud, most of rural ontario votes conservative. Kindly direct your ranting to the GTA and Ottawa that monopolise the province's seat count.
Our Senate shall be reformed: 1. All senators shall be elected instead of appointed (just like in U.S), it doe not make sense when they are paid and appointed...2. Each province or territory shall have 3 seats (this will balance regions across the country regardless of population size) 3. Election of Senate shall be on different date (midterm of incumbent terms) and hold elections of 2/3 of the senators every term 4. All ballots shall be secret by default (squeeze out the room for partisan votes and the role of the whip) 5. If over 1/3 of the senators disagree a bill or vote abstain, the bill shall be send back to the House of Commons with suggestions and recommendations for another round reading/revision but not killed. 6. Have the power to evaluate bills according to the constitution and revoke provincial regulations that was unconstitutional Those are just my shallow thoughts on our representative democratic apparatus...
Why should representation be balanced across provinces that were drawn up arbitrarily over a century ago and not population? Millions of people would essentially be disenfranchised and Atlantic Canada doesn't warrant as much influence as BC, Alberta, Ontario and Quebec. Besides, it would require constitutional reform according to the 7+50 formula and no large province would ever agree.
That will just create grid lock, there is no point to have another elected body, they are appointed so that they can judge a bill by its merit without worrying if it’s popular or not. It’s to stop the tyranny of the majority. US senate was originally appointed and bipartisan then they changed it and created gridlock.
The lords from the Senate aka upper house is spposed to be a check on the commoners in the lower house. If lords can be elected, then there will be no difference between a lord and a commoner.
Saskatchewan is actually over represented, the average people per seat here is only about 83,000. Especially true for rural Saskatchewan ridings which average even less people.
I definitely feel better about this than the US but I do have some misgivings about how the last election went, I mean Scheer won the popular vote (more canadians voted for him) yet Trudeau won the Minority I didn't even vote for Scheer but I don't like this outcome I think if one party wins the popular vote and another wins the seats it should trigger a do over this is why we need Ranked Voting or allow those who's parties were eliminated to vote again for one of the two finalists
while dividing ridings based on population might be the most democratic thing to do on paper, in a situation where one province represents almost 40% of the population, all it means it everyone else becomes irrelevant. Especially when you consider that most of quebec and the atlantic provinces vote liberal and most of the prairies vote conservative, effectively balancing each other out, then Ontario becomes the only province anyone really fights for. BC's fairly large seat count tends to discount itself by splitting the seats among the 3 parties, and bloc and NDP seats realistically only narrow the playing field for Cons and libs. The rest of Canada is neglected because Ontario has an electoral monopoly. I'd have 360 ridings, with 1/3 being allotted based on province population, 1/3 being allotted based on province's percentage of the GDP, and 1/3 being a base allotment. The territories will get 10 seats(4 for NWT, and 3 for Nunavut and Yukon each), and the provinces all get 11. That gives us the following.... Alberta 44 BC 43 Manitoba 19 New Brunswick 16 NF & Lab 15 NWT 4 Nova Scotia 16 Nunavut 3 Ontario 103 PEI 11 Quebec 64 Saskatchewan 19 Yukon 3 While Ontario and Quebec are still the 2 biggest provinces in seat count, political representation it pushed out from the center to the rest of the country, which will force political parties to consider the concerns of ALL canadians and not just Ontario and to a degree Quebec. The only realistic way to get a prime minister for ALL canadians is to make it so that they need all canadians to win an election, not just those in the GTA and other major Ontario and Quebec cities.
@Killer Miser yes, obviously. The point is if the population isn't spread evenly, then areas with lower population will practically never have their interests addressed. Eventually they'll see more benefit in being independent. If the areas with an overwhelming population advantage insist on maintaining a monopoly on political power, then they may end up losing the rest of the country. If they want to keep the country together, they have to make it worthwhile for the people who feel they have no say in government
So because you are not happy about the political party some province vote for you change the per population representation... for exemple PEI should have 1 seat (per population seat formula) they currently have 4... that mean that mean the citizens of PEI have a vote force 4x superior than other province... but with your formula, they will have 11... 11x superior.... why they should have a vote force representation 11 time superior... the per population formula is the best. each citizens have the same vote force regardless the province they live
@@nicolasg.514 This was 3 years ago. I've changed my mind in favor of a strictly per population formula since then. There's a reason you shouldn't necro post
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Popular vote not ridings. 2 provinces decide the fate of our country? Ridiculous
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Um, no
Alberta pays the bills for the country, gets shut down by the federal government on our resource that pays us and those bills, then they refuse to allow us to have the voice to make changes. EFF you ON and QB, time to separate.
Spencer Dardon lol dumbest comment of the day. Yes, I think is, Albertans are under represented. But separate won’t solve anything, you do realize that, yes?
simmer down there bud, most of rural ontario votes conservative. Kindly direct your ranting to the GTA and Ottawa that monopolise the province's seat count.
Our Senate shall be reformed: 1. All senators shall be elected instead of appointed (just like in U.S), it doe not make sense when they are paid and appointed...2. Each province or territory shall have 3 seats (this will balance regions across the country regardless of population size) 3. Election of Senate shall be on different date (midterm of incumbent terms) and hold elections of 2/3 of the senators every term 4. All ballots shall be secret by default (squeeze out the room for partisan votes and the role of the whip) 5. If over 1/3 of the senators disagree a bill or vote abstain, the bill shall be send back to the House of Commons with suggestions and recommendations for another round reading/revision but not killed. 6. Have the power to evaluate bills according to the constitution and revoke provincial regulations that was unconstitutional
Those are just my shallow thoughts on our representative democratic apparatus...
Why should representation be balanced across provinces that were drawn up arbitrarily over a century ago and not population? Millions of people would essentially be disenfranchised and Atlantic Canada doesn't warrant as much influence as BC, Alberta, Ontario and Quebec. Besides, it would require constitutional reform according to the 7+50 formula and no large province would ever agree.
Elect the senate. Amen.
That will just create grid lock, there is no point to have another elected body, they are appointed so that they can judge a bill by its merit without worrying if it’s popular or not. It’s to stop the tyranny of the majority. US senate was originally appointed and bipartisan then they changed it and created gridlock.
Senate appointes Gov gen by popular vote
The lords from the Senate aka upper house is spposed to be a check on the commoners in the lower house. If lords can be elected, then there will be no difference between a lord and a commoner.
I knew it alberta is under represented ! And so is Saskatchewan
@Killer Miser ima start training asap
@Killer Miser neither does Atlantic Canada
Saskatchewan is actually over represented, the average people per seat here is only about 83,000. Especially true for rural Saskatchewan ridings which average even less people.
I definitely feel better about this than the US but I do have some misgivings about how the last election went, I mean Scheer won the popular vote (more canadians voted for him) yet Trudeau won the Minority
I didn't even vote for Scheer but I don't like this outcome I think if one party wins the popular vote and another wins the seats it should trigger a do over
this is why we need Ranked Voting or allow those who's parties were eliminated to vote again for one of the two finalists
That Is because Everyone and their Mother in Alberta and Saskatchewan oted Conservative last election.
Wow, no wonder Canadians have no individual freedoms... scary!!
Time to change the game for politicians.
Vote PPC. Mad Max will make things fairer if we demand it
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while dividing ridings based on population might be the most democratic thing to do on paper, in a situation where one province represents almost 40% of the population, all it means it everyone else becomes irrelevant. Especially when you consider that most of quebec and the atlantic provinces vote liberal and most of the prairies vote conservative, effectively balancing each other out, then Ontario becomes the only province anyone really fights for. BC's fairly large seat count tends to discount itself by splitting the seats among the 3 parties, and bloc and NDP seats realistically only narrow the playing field for Cons and libs. The rest of Canada is neglected because Ontario has an electoral monopoly.
I'd have 360 ridings, with 1/3 being allotted based on province population, 1/3 being allotted based on province's percentage of the GDP, and 1/3 being a base allotment. The territories will get 10 seats(4 for NWT, and 3 for Nunavut and Yukon each), and the provinces all get 11. That gives us the following....
Alberta 44
BC 43
Manitoba 19
New Brunswick 16
NF & Lab 15
NWT 4
Nova Scotia 16
Nunavut 3
Ontario 103
PEI 11
Quebec 64
Saskatchewan 19
Yukon 3
While Ontario and Quebec are still the 2 biggest provinces in seat count, political representation it pushed out from the center to the rest of the country, which will force political parties to consider the concerns of ALL canadians and not just Ontario and to a degree Quebec.
The only realistic way to get a prime minister for ALL canadians is to make it so that they need all canadians to win an election, not just those in the GTA and other major Ontario and Quebec cities.
@Killer Miser yes, obviously. The point is if the population isn't spread evenly, then areas with lower population will practically never have their interests addressed. Eventually they'll see more benefit in being independent.
If the areas with an overwhelming population advantage insist on maintaining a monopoly on political power, then they may end up losing the rest of the country. If they want to keep the country together, they have to make it worthwhile for the people who feel they have no say in government
So because you are not happy about the political party some province vote for you change the per population representation... for exemple PEI should have 1 seat (per population seat formula) they currently have 4... that mean that mean the citizens of PEI have a vote force 4x superior than other province... but with your formula, they will have 11... 11x superior.... why they should have a vote force representation 11 time superior... the per population formula is the best. each citizens have the same vote force regardless the province they live
@@nicolasg.514 This was 3 years ago. I've changed my mind in favor of a strictly per population formula since then. There's a reason you shouldn't necro post
why do cities have their own electoral districts
Y’all need to stand up for yourself that’s a awful way to live in tyranny you don’t have a voice
so no Canadian ever voted for truedo
Canada election 2019
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