Conservatives: Arrested Nurse Had It Coming
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- Опубликовано: 4 сен 2017
- Apparently Conservatives LOVE watching cops rough up innocent nurses. Cenk Uygur of The Young Turks, breaks it down. Tell us what you think in the comment section below. tytnetwork.com/join/
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"In an early frontrunner for worst-take of the week, conservative tabloid Daily Caller published a piece aimed at the Utah nurse whose handcuffing and arrest went viral after she refused to provide a patient’s blood to a police officer.
In the piece titled “Arrested Utah Nurse Had It Coming,” Daily Caller editor Gregg Re makes the claim that Salt Lake City-based nurse Alex Wubbels may have deserved the treatment she received. “Police simply do not need a warrant if exigent circumstances justify an urgent search and seizure of evidence. The imminent loss of blood evidence, which would be useful in a drunk-driving case, qualifies as a potentially exigent circumstance,” writes Re.”*
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America, where you can get arrested for not breaking the law
Welcome to the Banana Republic.
New Royal - And where you don't get arrested for conspiring with Russians. In fact, you get elected to the White House.
FYI - Cop is on administrative leave.He has also been fired from his part time job as a paramedic, where he has worked for 35 years. Things are moving in the right direction.
Jim is the man cops are always getting administrative leave what's new seems to me the paramedics have higher standards at least something is happening though but honestly if not for the video more than likely it would have been brushed under the rug
Administrative leave = paid holiday courtesy of the tax payer. About $200,000 worth of tax payer money. The lieutenant that ordered the cop to get the sample should be indited for counseling to commit an indictable offense.
"conservative" is synonymous with "bootlicker"
Dnt Wry: Also "ignorant fascist asswipe who doesn't understand the Constitution or the principles this country was founded upon".
Correct, the Confederate democrat conservatives of the south were nicknamed "bootlickers". The liberal Republicans of the North gave them that name.
D Rutt, once again shouting his ignorance of political evolution in the USA.
Napalm idiot he's right.But I'm just a history teacher,what would I know.
I am a registered nurse of 17 years and I can tell you right now that the nurse was absolutely correct
Me too (31 years) and you are correct.
I only spent 16 years as a Registered Respiratory Therapist, and the law was the same... "no blood draws on an unconscious patient for legal purposes". I hope you have finished with your very difficult career. I got out in 2004.
Remember what Republicans stand for
A harbinger of things to come.
Thank you & other nurses for all you do!
I've been a conservative my entire adult life and agree 100% with the NURSE. She did nothing wrong. The cops were totally in the wrong.
doug whiddon same here. I’m conservative, live in a conservative town, and all my friends and family are conservative and everyone was on the nurses side. Just an example of the left trying to stir up fake news and cause problems.
Ditto
And yet, there's the right wing pundits condemning the nurse.
most right-wing pundits are really just left-pandering.
owenbrau63 who is condemning the nurse? Do you have any names?
I hope that cop loses his job and pension over this bullshit. Something tells me this isn't the first shady thing he's done
Chris Dooley, of course. If the circumstances are as Cenk has reported them, the cop was clearly trying to cover his ass by putting all the blame for the accident on the truck driver, while it was caused by his reckless conduct in the first place.
I think they're just worse in Utah. She happened to encounter someone having a bad day. Have you ever lost your job and pension for having a bad day? Cops are different jobs with higher stakes so a bad day could mean beating killing a person, but the cops have a right to work rather independently and exercise as much or as little force as they want. That depends on their deposition and the amount of training, societal norms, ptsd they may or may not have from the job. That's why if they have a bad day, they're likely to keep their pension. Another reason you don't want that over their head every time they make a decision because that hinders their ability to be autonomous. Fear of the result of their actions could lead to them not moving at all. That's why they get light penalties. Especially crazy religious communities like salt lake. If other people do it, the cops feel emboldened to act a certain way depending on if it's a man or a woman, or sometimes a Mormon even will go ahead and discriminate against another male just because he's not one of them. It's a very weird culture out there, where they demand IDs just to get a little info and get you talking to them, then they push for more, they invade your privacy further. I wouldn't be surprised if half of the other officers on the force acted the same way in a similar situation. This lady should have just let them take it and say it's inadmissible later. I guess she didn't know that but ignorance of the law is not an excuse and you should always listen to the officer even if you think he's wrong, because that's how you get arrested.
Whoever is siding with the cops on this case needs their heads examined! No warrant, no arrest and no ability to give consent by this patient means that the police had no right to a blood sample! We have to start shaming the jerks who want simply violate our constitutional rights and human rights. We are not the property of the government.
Father-in-law is doctor and what is sounds like this normal because the police know he will be a heavy pain meds that show up on drugs tests as heroin. So they can then under around and say he was high so it's not their fault.
lis martin well I have a birth certificate and social security number that proves otherwise.
I'm glad that the nurse filed a lawsuit against the police for false arrest
She won a huge settlement, the cop was fired and his Lt. was demoted.
I am a Constitutional Conservative and I believe the cop was dead wrong and I am glad he was fired. Furthermore, I am glad nurse Wubbles received just compensation for the violation of her rights.
She saved the hospital's ass by adhering to their policy. The accident victim could've sued the hell out of them if they had done that.
Yep. The nurse could have lost her license for violating HIPAA, as well.
For a minute here, let's think about the patient. The nurse was protecting his constitutional rights against unreasonable search and seizure. Who in their right mind would not commend that lady for doing the right thing? She didn't even break the law; she was OBEYING the law!
The right wing dunces are far more into obeying than the law.
I am so glad that the patient's rights were protected. This nurse is to be congratulated.
The nurse was right. That police should be fired!
the nurse followed the law... so arresting was WRONG
She needs to file a civil suit for several million dollars vs that municipality,the cops, the mayor both as officers of the state and individually as well. She needs to sue the Daily Caller for defamation of character
Yea, you go sue a cop and see how they destroy your life in retaliation.
Anyone bad enough to do this to a nurse working on camera, imagine what he does to much more vulnerable people. I definitely picture this guy forcing confessions and other false arrests, bearings, ext....Sue until he is behind bars.
Accountabilityfor Cops that screen name. I 100% agree. People who get power hungry should be penalized especially if they are entrusted with the publics trust and become a police officer. Crossing that line into criminal should be worse than if a regular civilian committed a crime. They should know better!
He needs to be arrested and jailed! She was only doing her job!!
Don't know if anyone has mentioned that the unconscious patient whose blood she refused to draw WAS ALSO A COP. His department has publicly thanked Ms Wubbles for protecting the civil rights of their officer from the SLCPD stormtrooper.
Shouldn't the cop be arrested for false arrest, assault, as well as a kidnapping charge?
Deprivation of rights under color of law.
Zentron... Yes. Yes, he should be.
The nurse actually STOOD UP FOR THE LAW. The police officer was the one who broke the law. Without a warrant the officer should be charged with felony assault and kidnapping.
david
Also charge false imprisonment,go after the cops pension and Sue the police department until it hurts
I'm a conservative. Nurse did not have it coming. Detective Jeff Paine was 100% wrong. This clown should never have been an officer at all. Nurse Alex Wubbles was doing the job she was hired to do. Jeff Paine was fired and should never be an officer again. I think possibly that he isn't even qualified to flip burgers at McDonald's.
My understand that this clown has filed a $1.5 million USD lawsuit for unjustified discharge. If he wins, Nurse Wubbles should take it away from him. What a total jerk.
I'm a conservative as well and agree with your take. The cop was furious with being told no. There were a lot of Republicans who insisted the cop was right. These are the ones that make ashamed to be in the same party.
I myself was the victim of a false arrest. The arrest report even say's they had no physical evidence. When the officer approached me he had his weapon unholstered. I wasn't about to argue with him, or tell him anything. His mind was made up, so I went peacefully.
Since then I have studied the laws and observed many police actions. I have found that the Jeff Payne's of the world are easily butt hurt. They don't like to be told that they are wrong. The word "No" to them is contempt of cop. Way too many of these people have badges pinned on them.
Then there are the other cop's who just stand around and let these bullies mistreat people. Those officers are no better than Jeff Payne.
Way more officers should have been disciplined here. And the Hospital Security?, what were they thinking. To allow a bully to mistreat a nurse like that, it's disgusting.
As I stated, former Detective Jeff Payne should never be allowed to carry a badge again. He should never be in any position of authority again. In fact, I think he's a menace to society. Maybe he should be treated like the criminal that he is. He should be arrested for kidnapping, and unlawful detention. He should have the distinct pleasure of being put through the system, go through the humiliation of an arrest, mugshots, fingerprinting, strip searched and locked in a 10×14 ft box. It would serve him right. What's unbelievable is this guy still thinks he did nothing wrong.
It may not be the majority of law enforcement officers who act this way, however far too many of them do. Police officers are poorly vetted and poorly trained. Much needs to be done.
Thugs with badges. Every damn time. Just more thugs with badges.
So he arrested her for NOT breaking the law... Yep, she had it coming..
The police stated that they wanted to take a blood sample to "protect" the victim against charges that he was DUI. That's ridiculous as he wasn't being charged. It was clearly part of a fishing expedition to protect the police if the case went to trial with the victim suing.
I AM A CONSEREVATIVE AND THIS OFFICER WAS COMPLETELY OUT OF BOUNDS TO ARREST THIS NURSE ! PERIOD ! WHAT THE HELL ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT !
This nurse could have lost her license if she allowed the blood to be drawn on the victim. Also, the cop worked as a paramedic part time, so he was well aware of the medical laws that are in place to protect patients. He knew she couldn't draw that blood.
The kind of person who says the nurse had it coming is the kind who doesn't know anything about the law or about nursing under the law.
As someone who can be called conserative in my opinion the cop should have been charged with criminal kidnapping and illegal detention if you ask me the cop should have been thrown under the prison
Nurse had it coming lol, yea youre right. She had the 500,000 coming lol
My hat. Is off to all nurses. We dont have enough of them the cop deserved to be fired plu some
As a nurse, this literally makes me ill. It would seem that the cop was trying to find some way to put blame on the victim!? This nurse did an amazing job protecting her patient. It's terrible that she had to endure this type of treatment...... A cop on a power trip; an apology isn't enough, but it is a start. Sending my thoughts and prayers to the patient and his family.
Bless you for what you do. You are awesome! I wish all good things for you in life.
I hope she sues that cop, and his department into the stone age.
Indeed, how DARE that Nurse follow THE LAW and deny that Cops ILLEGAL request.
This is very disturbing footage. These cops should be in prison!
Arresting someone for following the law.. What the hell is wrong with the police in this country!?!?
ASSHOLES They are
They used to be sworn to serve & protect! The only thing that they serve to protect is themselves to doughnuts & Coffee!!! 🤣😂😅
The cop lost his cool because they were trying to blame the truck driver for the crash, the police will break the law to protect their own.
Heads Tails: Proven time and time again.
As a retired police sergeant I am ashamed of the action of these officers. This “Detective” doesn’t the slightest knowledge of the law. The Salt Lake City Police should be ashamed of whatever they call a training program.. The “Detective and Lieutenant “ don’t either seem to be aware of the rudimental elements of Law.
I am as conservative as the day is long and that thug cop was completely in the wrong and deserved to be fired and indeed charged with assault and wrongful arrest.
This cop should be locked up forever. This is not what America is about.
It is exactly what America is about you fucking unobservant douche.
Seán O'Nilbud Nope some Americans make a choice to be that way republicans see this and take pleasure in it. Dems not so much.
unsurprising this is an insane world we live in.
I am a conservative and also a RN. I agree 100 % that the nurse did the right thing. I also agree that the officers were probably looking for something that they could blame the truck driver for
If I was in the hospital unconscious, I would definitely want her to be my nurse.
The cop broke the law, the cop is still free and on paid vacation, only in America. Why are law enforcers held at a lower standard than citizens.
I live in Salt Lake City, and my neighbor is this woman's family and it's just terrible what she had to go through from this filthy cop
Has she gotten any justice? People always want to defend police officers because they have a difficult job, and I know many do. But those same people seem to forget or don't realize what it's like for nurses. I commend her for doing what was right. I sure hope she's doing well and that asshole pays for what he's done.
The Results:
The Police Department coughed up $500,000 to the nurse for her to drop her law suit.
The cop who arrested her was fired.
The Police Lieutenant who came out and verified the cop was right was demoted to patrol officer after lying on tape.
Enough said.
Conservative and former LE. The cops were wrong, and hospital security should have put the Officer in custody. They were there To protect the staff and failed them....
Nurses are heroes... what the hell is wrong with these people
She was in the right. The cop was defiantly wrong. She could lose her nursing license if she doesn't protect her patient's rights.
I take offence to this as a conservative. The nurse's rights were violated and she was physically assaulted by the detective. He's been fired and hopefully he can't get a job in law enforcement ever again. I suggest he takes up garbage collection. Any decent person, regardless of politics knows this woman was wronged.
You need consent to draw blood. Being unconscious and unable to speak that Nurse did the right thing.
What nobody is saying is that nurses are REQUIRED BY LAW to do exactly what that nurse did. HIPAA states unequivocally that nurses who do not follow the exact procedures that the Salt Lake City nurse was following will be fired, fined, and potentially service jail time. Nurses walk a thin line in which they live in fear of even the slightest mis-step in carrying out HIPPA procedures. They can be prosecuted and jailed for not following it correctly. Most of them memorize the HIPAA statutes, at least the parts that govern their policies and procedures, so that they'll know the nuances of that law. This nurse was going by a substitution to the HIPAA policy which the region's hospitals and law enforcement agencies had agreed to and signed off on. Those substitutions require her strict adherence exactly as HIPAA would. The cop was a nasty guy who needs to be jailed for coercing a nurse to break the law, then abusing her when she did not.
High speed chase, someone died. The cop's supervisor sent him out to find any evidence they could to try to temper the lawsuit that they know is coming. That's why the cop was so cranked up about getting a blood sample. Thin blue deplorability.
Long story short: Corruption.
+1
Conspiracy
Once again here comes budingski brain dead Tucker Carlson. Who the 🔥HELL 🔥 asked for his 2 cents???
Absolutely no one that I know.. liberal, conservative, libertarian etc.. thinks this.. headline is untrue.. 👎
agreed
She followed the law. We're done here.
And if she had broken the law, as he was demanding she do, would he have then arrested her for THAT? Stop the cops! This has gone too far already. Stop the cops before we lose everything.
That was SO wrong, what this idiot officer did! If the nurse had assaulted the police officer, she would have been arrested and charged, and would NEVER be able to work as a nurse again. This officer illegally assaulted the nurse. She deserves: (1) a formal apology from the police department AND that officer; (2) monetary compensation for the stress and other hurt she sustained; and (3) that officer to be suspended indefinitely, without pay, while this goes to court in another jurisdiction. If found guilty, as a convicted criminal, he should NEVER be allowed to be even a security guard EVEN again.
My wife is a nurse and I do know that she would do exactly the same thing in this situation. Nurses are our advocate if we can't help ourselves. There are so many people that have no clue what it takes to be a nurse and do what they do. If it was your family member that she was protecting how would you then feel about it? I'm sick of the haters saying that the nurse was wrong, that the cop was wrong, and the ones that just truly have no understanding. It takes a special breed of people to make it through nursing school. The ones that make it are the true heroes that make us better.
Had what coming? Half a million? she deserved more. The other officer should have been canned too. This is not the wild wild west.
That cop should be in prison for an illegal arrest of a citizen.
MB MB that shit happens all the time
"Cops have a difficult job. Respect them"
Obviously don't know what nurses do and go through, on a DAILY basis
Says who? I'm more conservative than not, and I think that particular cop should be in jail. As does everyone I know who has seen the video, regardless of there political leanings.
KIDNAPPED, SHE WAS KIDNAPPED FOR FUCK'S SAKE.
Renato Ramos de Oliveira Correia reality check, cops kidnap people all the time. I had a judge apologize to me for spending 8 months in jail when I was only supposed to do a month. You think I got anything for that other 7 months? I'm not saying I didn't belong in jail, I'm just saying I didn't for 8 months and they knew and still scheduled my date for months and months later for no reason. Just to keep me. Just to keep me from spending Christmas with my kids. Usually court dates are a month or two later. If you don't have a bond, which I couldn't get cause they said I was running from probation (I turned myself in), they can keep you there as long as they want. Imagine spending 8 months in jail for a traffic ticket.
Don't make them apologize, make them pay.
Does the nurse work for the police? No? So FU!!! You can't make her do work for a police investigation without a warrant. Even then, she, personally, can refuse and it falls on the hospital board to comply or not. The Cop assaulted her, and illegally detained her which should be considered kidnapping.
Here's the problem with always justifying abuse of power, it will only get worse - and one day it will affect you in some way.
Oh man...the lies that are pushed by you all is just unconscionable...I am a conservative, many of my friends and family are conservative and not ONE of them thought the nurse "deserved that." It seems all of you are all about hate-mongering. This police officer deserved to be punished for illegally arresting that nurse.
I'm highly conservative and this cop needs to be fired.
Shut up meg!😑
All the cops standing around watching should be jailed for not doing anything about this unlawful act.
Wehe He University Security Personal NOT officers
Had she taken the blood it would have been considered assault/battery. Nurses have been the most trusted occupation in the USA for years because of what this woman did. It makes me proud to be a nurse myself. I wonder where police officers and mass media journalists fall in the trustworthiness rankings these days...
Matango613 👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏
It's been this way in the UK for years. As part of my law degree I did a module on medical law. It's a given (and has been for many years) that unless there's consent or a decision has to be made for them in an emergency, any attempt to take blood or perform any kind of procedure on someone would be assault/battery. There are very limited circumstances where this principle would be overturned, such as in the case of a blood transfusion for a child of a Jehovah's Witness. And if you try to save someone who competent in making decisions but who doesn't want to be saved, you can be in trouble. So you always seek consent. If there's any doubt you let a judge decide. No ifs, no buts. I'm no fan of the police but over here they are well aware that they always defer to the expertese and knowledge of medical practitioners. This is just another example of American police thuggery.
Matango613 Thanks for all you do as a nurse! 🙌💗💗💗💗💗💗
Not too well as far as law enforcement goes, Matango613--they should spike nos. for trustworthiness because everyone likes to think cops stand for protecting the public but stuff like this damages that and causes a rift between people who want to hold on to that belief no matter what they see (but don't want to be confronted with in this day of cameras and video) and would as soon hate the news media, as is being pushed nonstop by our president, and those who want it to be addressed but ALSO don't want to see it happening, and don't think it's unthinkable to fire or demote cops who break protocol. A camera isn't republican or democrat, the legitimate (actual journalistic) news is supposed to function as messenger & not a culpable participant, and medical practitioners have a rigid protocol they know is life-or-death if breached. Somehow cops can play loose with that, claiming they face life-or-death dangers--THIS wasn't that for them, just asserting authority they didn't have as happens more and more nowadays. This isn't a media issue, it's an abuse issue; suspected criminals only should go too jail, NOT medical personnel who have an emergency room full of people needing emergency attention that these cops thought not-at-all about by their self-serving actions...no one in their right minds is blaming news media (key: in their RIGHT minds!)
It also doesn't make sense because the officers weren't claiming exigent circumstances in their request to the nurse. Jeff Payne wasn't trying to explain to the nurse why her reasons for not getting a blood draw were somehow overridden by "exigent circumstances". He just ignored her calm explanation and assaulted her. Yes, this wasn;t an arrest; it was an assault, and he should be charged as such.
I am a conservative and that cop needs to be fired and the nurse is hero. What a bigoted title to this video. Conservatives are not monolithic just as liberals aren’t.
The other cops involved in this stupidity are just as guilty as they stood by whilst their colleague performed multiple illegal acts. We are constantly told that bad cops are few in number but if that’s the case, why aren’t the good cops pulling them up for their actions, reporting them up the chain of command, or at the very least arresting these bullies?
Sadly it would appear that once you’re a member of the largest, most heavily armed gang in the country, you cannot risk being a “snitch”, and unless/until those with the authority to arrest these bad apples then the whole department is just as complicit.
The departments concerned are in need of a massive shake up, starting from the top - this type of behaviour doesn’t happen in a vacuum, it requires the backing of the commanders, or higher, and specifically the training establishments.
These are only the cases that are made public which is a very serious cause for concern simply because there’s no way to be sure just how far this unprofessional behaviour goes.
Unfortunately, recent events that were covered by the various public and media sources suggest it’s far more widespread and common practice which might explain the lack of concern from other officers?
The American people deserve far more from their law enforcement officers because awful, unprofessional idiots such as this shame every other officer that is a fair minded professional (in dealing with the public), but worst of all they are p*ss*ng on the graves of all those professional officers that were killed doing their duty. Some might consider my last comment as “over the top”, but how else do you describe “bad apples” that do nothing whilst a colleague breaks the law in such an egregious manner?
The crash victim was actually an on call police officer. The nurse was protecting his 4th amendment rights. Where's the Blue Lives Matter crowd? Which side are they taking here? Promise it isn't the victim's side.
I hope that cop was fired
The nurse did the right thing.
Considering that the patient was a truck driver who was NOT suspected of a goddamned thing yet they were afraid that he might sue them they hoped they could find SOMETHING in his blood to get them off the hook. BS.
I don't know whether to applaud them for their consistency on being on the wrong side even when the victim was white, or to point out how little "conservatives" seem to care about the constitution or rule of law in reality.
JNF that's the difference between nationalists and patriots.
Patriots love their country for what it does, nationalists love their country no matter what it does.
The align "conservative" because they are on the right wing but hardly anyone is an actual conservative anymore, and if they are they aren't out there cheering trump or police abuses of power or racism or any of that nonsense because they know all of that leads to fascism, just as I'm not out there with antifa being a dirk even though I'm against fascism and bigotry and on the left wing, but not willing to go far left into the whole communism eventuality.
I'm more liberal than I am conservative, but I'm more progressive than either. I dunno maybe classic liberal? Anyways.
Too many crazies out there on the far left and far right for me.
What the cop did is against the law. I am a criminal justice major and we actually talked about this. If a person, who doesn't have a warrent for arrest or any warrent for that person blood, is not able to give consent, they must understand why they are giving consent and must be in the right kind and not under any influence of drugs, then you, as a member of law enforcement, cannot take blood or any kind of samples, from that person. If they are an actual suspect, then they would have been issued a warrent by a judge to get the blood but since there wasn't they can't take the blood.
DerekPlayz : Games and Vlogs since when have cops followed the law or the constitution?
+Dan Underwood all the time realistically
They can't get his blood without a warrant. Health Information privacy laws say you can not give anyone that information without a warrant. She would have lost her job and her nursing license for releasing his records. Believe me she is reviewing these LAWS every year as part of her licensure
All of those hospital security staff that was standing around there should be fired for not stepping in and stopping that cop from assaulting the nurse.... That is their job to protect people at the hospital and they failed.
What's crazy is that if that cop is subsequently injured and goes to that hospital requiring medical help, that nurse would probably do her best to assist him and offer him a great deal more kindness and respect than he ever showed her! It's what nurses do.
The nurse had it coming? Judging from the police forces reaction to this incident, they have it coming.
What’s interesting and slightly frustrating is, in a different video, where the lieutenant explains that it is not her (the nurse’s, or anyone really) place to refuse. The law requires compliance (subscript with all) police demands/requests and if the cops are wrong in their actions, then that is to be adjudicated by the court, not by the people themselves. Total compliance, regardless of legality of action. Good thing the lieutenant was demoted, and thank God for cameras which are shining alight on this corrupt and opaque and deadly functionary of government action.
I’m a conservative and the nurse did right. She will be compensated for a stupid cop being stupid. End of story.
If an american cop approached me I would be absolutely terrified. Many of these guys seem to be complete maniacs and bullies
I know.
ANONYMER BOSS - Yet, cops get irritated when citizens are afraid of them, and do things like refusing to 'reach' for their license, reg and insurance. The cognitive dissonance is just deafening.
The Young Turks should have shown more of the confrontation. The nurse was simply relaying information given to her from a hospital administrator over the phone. She also had a copy of an agreement between the hospital and the police concerning what was needed to get a legal blood sample from a patient. The police had not met any of the terms of the agreement and could not legally get a blood sample. The patient could not consent because he was unconscious. The police were 100% at fault in this case. They were simply trying to find a way to cover their behind because they had made mistakes in the police chase that led up to this.
Thanks ; that's for the clarification!!!
+Don Adams
They showed the full clip in an earlier video.
I'm reading through the comments on that Daily Caller article and it seems like the author of the article is just about the only one who agreed with the cop's actions.
You are far braver than I am. Did you need a shower after wading into the weak gene pool of Daily Caller commenters?
TYT playing into the devicive narrative plaguing the world right now... 🙄
Not at all joking, these lawsuits need to come out of the police pension fund or they really don't care.
So you will punish officers who do nothing wrong by pulling money out of their pension?
I think it should come from the individual police officers pension vs all police officers pensions.
@@gaylemurphy240 that's what I was getting at...you can't just can't cut police pension cause that would effect all officers and 98% of cops are good so you will be punishing them for nothing... but you can cut individual officers pension of not get rid of it altogether
The Truck Driver was also a reserve officer and his force in Utah thanked the nurse for defending their officer and his blood.
Imagine being this guy, gets messed up like this because of the police chase -- then wakes up, and is told some goons came and tried to steal his blood.
Maurice Jones He's a reserve officer from Rigby, Idaho, just for clarity
Henrietta Lacks was a black woman who had her cells harvested from her body when she died. She had a unique way her body worked which made her cells great or research. Against her knowledge or her families her cells were used and just about any drug people take today has the stamp of her cells which were used to create the benefits of these drugs.
Not until later was it found out that they used her cells because they did not compensate her or her family for the millions of dollars the companies made by using her cells.
If this was about a legitimate criminal investigation that would still be wrong to do this, but instead it was about trying to find a way to get covered for the high-speed chase.
Just sad. I think the person who told this detective to do this should be fired. The officer should be fired not just for this but his threat afterward about getting back at the hospital because he was a drive for an ambulance company and was going to bring the most indigent people to this hospital instead of the others in the area.
What he does not know is the hospital would take them without blinking because they are not like him an asshole. The chief if he was part of this should be fired also. The press conference with the mayor and police chief was a joke. They talked about investigation and checking all the facts. Everyone saw the facts in the video. Before they got in front of the cameras they could look at the agreement signed by the police. Taht was all they needed to slam this officer but they seemed more inclined to save face.
@@prideventues dude, excellent post. Interesting. Insightful. Thanks for the info from us all.
I agree whoever told the cop to arrest the nurse..his superior detective type?.. should be charged as well.
For people who hate and want less government, they love their cops NO MATTER WHAT THEY DO
Trevon William hell yes we love our cops and we love the rule of law. That's what makes us civilized
So you are against the cops when they break the law, right?
Aimee Holmes but there was no following the rule of law here by the Officer! Making law up as you go along isn't being civilised, it is in fact a lawless action which threatens to corrupt the rule of law. That's the kind of thing that is seen when the man or woman at the top starts taking a democratic government which operates for the people by the throat &, unnoticed by their supporters, starts on the path of becoming a dictatorship for the one. Wake up, for everyone's sake.
That arrest is highly unlawful. If they wanted the blood sample, they should have called the leading doctor of that unit, and he should take the sample himself. Common, arresting a nurse inside a hospital, who was doing her job! Cops aren't judges.
Actually, in this case a doctor would be no more authorized to turn over medical samples than the nurse, janitor, or hospital administrator. The baseline for any intrusive search and seizure is and should always be a warrant issued upon probable cause as clearly stated under the Fourth Amendment. Most major cities have magistrates ready at the helm at all crazy hours of the day and night ready to sign warrants on behalf of law enforcement.
The real reason this 'cop' did not seek a warrant was because he knew that no magistrate in his right mind would approve a warrant with the facts presented. There are no exigent circumstances for a warrantless search and seizure because the guy in the hospital isn't going anywhere and whatever intoxicants are in his system will still be there in the time it takes to get a magistrate to review and sign off on the warrant.
Blood was actually already taken, he needed a court order saying that the guy was wanted or suspected in some crime to be able to hand the results of the test over to police. The police officer just wasn't listening to what she was trying to tell him, he thought she was refusing to take a blood sample, all she was trying to explain to him was that they can't hand over the results without a warrant or consent from the patient without the warrant.
not just A nurse, but the CHARGE NURSE OF THE BURN UNIT. and as others have said, law, federal law, and hospital policy were against it since he was NOT a suspect, nor under arrest, nor did they have a warrant. so NO ONE should have given him, or allowed him (he DID work as a paramedic, he was fired for other statements involved THAT job, rightfully so) to draw it as per federal law it was ILLEGAL.
Josh S, actually it was a Warrant OR being a suspect or under arrest. but since he was only a VICTIM they had no right. and yes the hospital was ALREADY do those tests, but the issue is sometimes its not usable for court if chain of custody is not maintained properly. of course it COULD be they wanted a certain result to remove the blame from the other police involved in the chase as some suspect. i wont comment on that as there is no proof either way, other than this highly suspect behavior
So she's suing the SLC police department right? I meant this is just completely disgusting that the police officer overstepped his bounds like that and arrested her without cause.
I hope she sues the hell out of them!
She won't get a dime. She was obstructing justice. The hospital must release the test to public safety officers when cdl drivers are involved in a accident.
In my experience only criminals think in terms of someone having it coming. Literally criminals justify any and every crime with they had it coming. Hope the FBI is wacth ing them so they get a taste of there own medicine.
You're painting conservatives with a pretty broad brush here. Thanks for telling me what all conservatives believe. I'm an ultraconservative and I think the policeman should go to jail and the city should have to pay the nurse millions and give her a written apology.
As a conservative i do NOT agree wiith this. That cop got what he deserved. That cop was so far out of line, hope he flips burgers for the rest of his life.
I hope she sues the shit out of them.
Thank you for giving attention to this case. This is a scary case. I am a nurse myself. Can't believe that this happened in the USA. Democratic country.
Nurse Wubbles didn't deserve the treatment the officer wrongfully invoked. She was in the right, the officer was definitely in the wrong.
Fully on the side of the nurse. I wonder how bad if would have been if it were not filmed.
Working in the medical field for 30 years, the nurse was correct, in her actions. She works by a set of laws and rules, which protect YOU, the patient! The police officer was at fault, and I'm sure he knew it, but chooses to use bully tactics, to try to get his way. She most likely would have lost her job, had she had done what the officer had asked of her. She would have been breaking the rules in which she works under.
Vicky Paulson she fuckin' showed him the rules where it said that it was against the law.
Vicky Paulson She not o my would have list her job, she would have lost her nursing license, which is her livihood. Nurses operate under established laws and rules set up by the board of nursing, a patient's rights are a large part of them.
not to mention, the cops can do a fake drug test and pin it on the truck driver anyway.. thk u to the nurse!
slikdarelic one of the reasons I hate hospital. They allowed that illegal nonsense to happen to my brother. I had to record what was happening. They're needs to be more nurses like her.
yes indeed. That trucker should send her a gift basket or something. Those pigs were looking for a scapegoat and he was in no position to defend himself.
That cop was a psycho, he was FIRED
She had it coming? Are you f’cking kidding me? 🤦🏻♂️ The Detective was fired and the Utah police department settled the lawsuit. Which in itself is an admission of wrong doing on the part of the police department.