As an autistic person, someone asking me "how are you?" but not actually wanting to know is what I fear, Talk about fight or flight responce; when people ask "how are you" it's panic because I have to play a double game in my head of "is this person actually trying to ask me something or is this a social thing?" while also having to figure out if I've even known them well enough to anwser honestly.... I just say "it's going" because well, I don't want to be the person who overstays their welcome, let alone get a story told about me on a podcast because I thought I could open up one time.
I have exactly the same problem. Especially if I'm having a bad day. You ever accidentally unload on someone, realize they were just being nice, and then ask them how they're doing only for them to say, "good."?
I'm just genuine and have not understood that some people ask with the expectation of being lied to. I don't find that nice. I'd rather if someone doesn't care, they don't ask. 乁༼☯‿☯✿༽ㄏ
HWHWH same :3 i found out you weren't actually supposed to say (to most people) how ur Actually doin until my therapist told me when i was like 17 and my brain just went O H N O
@@kahlips0180 it’s because neurotypical people use the phrase as a greeting. They’re not so much expecting you to lie as they are expecting you to understand that it’s not an actual question. You’re supposed to respond with the expected quick response. If they’re a friend or family member or something then it potentially opens the opportunity to bring up more genuine answers, but for most people “I’m good”, “same old same old”, or “it’s going” are the kind of answers you’re expected socially to respond with unless asked more questions. Nobody explains this to us though because they expect us to magically understand. We interpret it as a literal question rather than a greeting ritual with expected responses. They’ve also talked before on this podcast about how they prefer when people will lie about being really happy and confident even if feeling negative and insecure because that fake confidence is more comfortable for those around you. So this asking how people are and expecting the generic answers is probably related to that mentality too, which I personally wouldn’t think would be healthy but I think it might be the neurotypical standard. So idk. It’s all very confusing to me.
My workaround has been to be really really simple about how it's going and you cover both. BUT, if someone is walking by you and it doesn't look like they're stopping, this is just a greeting. But when I'm struggling, I'll say "hanging in there" or "getting through" because for me, it's not saying I'm okay, but as long as I'm not in need of severe intervention, those things are true. They're short enough to be a quick greeting, but honest enough that it opens the floor if they ARE genuinely caring.
If you have been training with your hair as is, KEEP IT!!!! How you train is how you should compete. It will throw you off having something different when your focus should be elsewhere. Braids will feel like pulling and shaved will feel like something is missing and you may get mat/gi/rug burn. Hair really affects fighting, especially how you twitch/shake sweat from your face and how it comes from the top of your head. Same for beards, if you had it while training keep it! If you MUST shave face or head(or anything else like legs or arms), do a week in advance so you can manage any skin issues. And don't forget to trim your nails a weeks in advance if your undernails tend to stay raw for a few days.
Aotearoa isn't IN New Zealand, it IS New Zealand haha. it's the native Maori name for New Zealand! it's often used in English too as essentially a nickname/just other name for the country, but in the Maori language it's just simply the word you use for the country as a whole
to be fair to patreon man-it is a bit silly that we have a culture of socialization that requires you to ask each other how you are but at the same time expects you to be dishonest with your answer and only respond with good or fine. not that it makes it ok to unload his personal traumas on you but it is a bit convoluted how we are expected to behave disingenuous with one another
@@SadBoyzPodi definitely picked up on your point! to clarify i didn’t add this comment to critique you or how you felt about the situation-just to point out how odd human communication is! :)
Maybe it's a hot take to think so for some reason, but Kpop being extremely manufactured doesn't devalue the fact that they want to be artists, and so often it feels like people are blaming the artists for the corruption of their companies. It's a deeply corrupted place, but these kids want to be artists and allow the companies to do way too much, because becoming an artist through self-made channels is pretty impossible if you don't have songwriting/producing/lyricism/marketing/etc skills. People are quick to dislike kpop on the basis that it's all manufactured, but the kpop artists want to be Idols - you don't get in accidentally, and you definitely don't get in without getting hurt (being kept as a trainee for years / having to move companies for better chances even though they may also reject you / racism from many angles / more known stuff like eating disorders and grindsets / etc) so it always makes me feel a little sad that they get treated as lesser artists simply because they're kpop. Anyway this is mostly just a rant and I'm not looking to start fights or discussions, it just... rubs me up wrong I guess, especially because they're kids most of the time and don't realise that being 20+ years old isn't the end of their life, and that taking time to become a musician isn't going to make them Late. It's all a gross catch 22.
When I was a grad student, I shared office space with 2 professors, 2 post-docs, and 2 grad students, and the 7 of us would have nerf gun battles all the time. It was a great way to relieve stress. But yeah, some people got annoyed when they just wanted to get work done lol.
hello kiwi here , kia ora is hello/a general greeting that translates to ~'wishing good health' in maori and aotearoa is the maori name for new zealand ! kia ora is pronounced 'ki / ao / ra', like 'key or uh' and aotearoa is pronounced 'ao / te / a / ro / a', like 'aw tay uh ro uh'
Just adding. The R is rolled hard and fast, sounding a little like a soft D (I mean, not really, but when you're not used to hearing the language it kinda does).
The chocolate balls had me in tears of laughter which is great because if I was them I would be crying the other type of tears. The real tragedy as that they never got to eat the cereal
Okay but can I just say thank you for wearing socks ?? The other day I watched a different podcast on RUclips & saw a bare foot . Idk why but it freaked me out immediately 😂😂
I could go on for hours and hours about the kpop industry and how insane it is in terms of manufacturing content it's craaazy. Love this podcast btw. EDIT: I AM A LISTENER OF KPOP I have groups I like and stuff. But I'm not foolish enough to ignore the issues in the industry...
I could go on for hours about how scary I find it people will understand the industry and still stan manufactured personalities the performers are forced to maintain Like no you don’t love that guy you love the fake person a music exec who has them locked into a torturous contract made. Not entirely sure u ever met. A person
@@Lucifersfursona I don't entirely agree. On one hand, I see what you mean but on the other hand, not all of these kpop idols are as fake as you seem to think they are. But maybe I'm biased cause I actualy listen to kpop and I like the music and have groups I like... but BTS for example started out incredibly small, and a lot of their success actually came from them contributing to and writing their own music and people appreciating that about them. And the industry has evolved more, I personally feel there's a lot of groups, maybe not as well known as the most popular groups, that despite how fake the industry seems they've prevailed because of their love of music. There's a group I like called Stray Kids for example that produces and writes all their music and have found success despite- no, *because* they're self made, not because they put on any persona. But that's just my opinion. I still think there's a lot of shitty aspects about the industry but it's not that different from the problems present in the western music industry.
@@Lucifersfursona hmm I see where you’re coming from and I can acknowledge that I am biased as I’ve been a fan of Bts for the past 6 years but there are definitely Kpop groups that do not fit that mold. Bts for example do not imo I will not deny parasocial relationships as they are rampant in any entertainment industry especially Kpop but there are genuine artists not in “slave contracts” also not that you said this or anything but many others love the narrative of all Kpop idols being “fake, plastic, manufactured, controlled artists” then refuse to acknowledge the issues in the western industry which imo is a pretty xenophobic take (again not talking about you just in general)
@@DanasGoneCrazy I will kindly disagree. Most kpop groups are owned by multimillion dollar who recruit young kids and will groom them from as young as the age of 8. Most of these idol have lives similiar to the slaves that had good singing voices and wereforced to sing in events held by their owners for the slave owner to boast their wealth. They are forced to follow a strict lifestyle to maintain their beauty and undergo hundreds if not thousands of surgeries and other medical procedures to artificially introduce changes to their bodies. Moreover alot are not allowed to express their sexuality or are forced to lie about their sexuality based on what the company that owns their group thibks will be most profitable. Alot of them even have manufactured stories, for example, did the bts guys really write their own songs? Who knows, and even if they did the corporat behind them probably has altered it to the point it can't even be considered to be written by them. Do they really sing so good, no of course not, alot of them seem to lack basic vocal training, but does it matter? The corporate behind them definitely has a team of people that alter their songs to the point it can't even be considered to be sung by them. It's a similiar story to Tpain, his songs are def his but to say they were sung by him would be false (also putting this out, yes I know Tpain has a great singing voice and the only reason he used auto tune so much was to parody the artists that relied too much on auto tune.) So in essence, the person you stan isn't an actual human being but an fake persona manufactured by an capitalist corporation destined for the purpose of getting folk like you to stan them.
They aren't treated like humans fr. I find it especially sad that every single one of the trainees are told what type of surgeries they need to look good enough before they've finished growing, they have super restrictive diets and will go weeks with only a couple hours of sleep each night when debuting, and fans will still point out physical flaws or mess ups. We live in a society.
I’m from Aotearoa too and I had such a culture shock going to Europe and England too!! it’s normal here for people to go everywhere in their PJs and I felt bad for the people that live there to feel pressure to dress in normal clothes to go to the supermarket or pharmacy lmao, could never b me
I hope Jordan was just joking about not wanting to do the show any more because I'm loving the frequent uploads. However, don't feel forced into making tons of content just for the sake of it-- if y'all need a break I'll wait! Or if you want to do something new and different, that's cool too. Whatever floats your boat.
26:31 as someone who's been a kpop stan for almost a decade (that's weird to think abt wow) lots of kpop idols are definitely told how to act depending on which company they're "owned" by (of which there are infinitely many lol), where they are, what they're doing, how far along in their career they are, and what gender they are (ofc... sigh)
yeah also kpop is the complete opposite of industry plant culture. you will already debut with a decent fanbase if you come from a big company, it’s never hidden
i love the way you guys explain things because i know nothing about the nba but the play-by-play explanation of lebron getting the scoring record was so well done that i feel like i do know about the nba for some reason
Your talking about the Patreon office change made me think of my team's experience. I work in a specialized group of legal assistants for a huge law firm where we run a 24-hour operation, and the office we used to be in was this run down but super charming building in Queens. My team was in the basement, but the building itself had so much character that it didn't feel dingy. Now we're in the firm's giant high rise and it is SO drab. I'm grateful they let the overnight people change to remote during the pandemic so I don't have to go in.😅
Can I just say how refreshing it is to watch a podcast made by people who (I'm guessing by all the references) are my age? It feels like there's so many kiddos on youtube and they're great.. but there's something awesome about listening to a podcast that I can completely relate to all the way through! Love you guys! So glad I discovered this channel this week!
My son (13) showed me (30) this channel and I have NEVER IN MY LIFE felt so seen and represented by a show ❤ And thank you Jarvis and Jordan for being such a grounded wholesome influence on young men!
As someone who was also around for all the 90s groups, I assumed BTS's situation would be similar. And it is, but the kpop industry goes HARD. Like Nsync & BSB were kinda of like, the only really big manu'd groups at that time, and that industry died after all the stuff about their manager/producer came to light. BTS is literally the tip of the kpop iceberg. It's also ridiculous to know they grab these children & put them in what I can only describe as some kind of intense idol boot camp. However, I will say BTS is a group that should 100% be checked out. I wholeheartedly expected them to be a group of stuck up asses, but they come off as totally genuine, funny, kind, relatable & a bunch of huge dorks (which I find incredibly endearing). Of course this is all parasocial, but I still feel as though there is at least some truth to what we're shown. Also they're very talented and have some bangers.
been binging sad boyz for the past few weeks i think this is the episode that has made me laugh the hardest. the whole bit at the end was fucking hilarious
my mental health is absolutely in shambles at the moment and I am so so happy to have more sadbays today. Thank you for being on a content high, you both make me really happy and you're both wonderful people. Thank you again
this may be the first podcast that i genuinely want to continue to watch, i watched my first episode of it two days ago n i just love how relaxed yet still funny it is sometimes podcasts have too many jokes so i can’t like do something while listening to them because i’ll miss something important or they’re just boring but this has a just naturally balanced amount of jokes and just talking n it’s very entertaining and easy to complete tasks with, might be my new makeup routine addition !
The office I used to work at had one of those electric table hockey things. It was pushed into the far corner of the canteen, behind a table, where there weren't any sockets. I don't know if it was broken or they just didn't want us using it, but the fact it was there visible to everyone who worked there but completely unusable says something about the company. I'm just not sure what.
Gotta admit that I refuse to lie when people ask me how I am. However, it's always a short answer and I never go into detail because I know they're not really interested. How are you? I'm okay. Just okay? Yup. Just okay.
5:40 literally same, I have adhd and I simply can’t remember when people ask. Same as “hey, what’s up?” Or “whatcha doing” I’ll completely blank. My father hates it tho lol
My husband roots for the Detroit Pistons and flavor flav shows up at random Michigan sports games all the time. The last one you could see him the entire basketball game because he had an all white full bejeweled suit and a giant white clock on his neck.
Also @Jarvis a family member of mine had the nose surgery (deviated septum+polyps) and it requires lots of aftercare but it's definitely worth it!! And you'd still be able to record 72 hrs post-surgery.
re: the first awkward moment penpal, gotta say I once (also in the UK) brushed against a shelf in a supermarket and a wine bottle fell off and smashed all over the floor and the sales assistants who came over to clean it up were more concerned that I was ok with all the broken glass everywhere than angry, and that's how they should have been for the beer bottle situation in the penpal's story too! Definitely not your fault sometimes these things just happen
what would be even more of an anime storyline is if lebron's son decided he wanted to beat his father and played for another team to try to overtake him
A few yrs ago when the pod wasn't super active I would constantly wish it was back so I've been SO thankful for all these new episodes lately ❤️ We're eating good tonight
I love sad boys when it's just all that smart ADHD experience of getting distracted by the inner workings of your own mind. And wanting to just explain it all to somebody because you have just discovered something so important to you only.
Man I was an extra AN EXTRA on a show in October of 2022- past the main covid break- and every single one of us got pcr tested the morning before we shot anything
i work in the ecommerce and tech industry. About 3-4 people fired within the span of a week, and some of the reasons were nucking futs. One of them was because apparently someone parked in an executives spot. Like what the actual fuck is wrong with management
You mentioned the Community table read and now I have to watch the whole thing again! This is a curse I must bare. Also, you forgot about Allison Brie. Come on.
i have smthn to mention that triggered me as a trans fem but before i get into that i just wna thank both of u for the great content!!! love u both :3 /gen !!! tw for trans misogyny and general transphobia !!! 55:32 please do not equate sexual orientation to the attraction of a specific assigned sex :( i know this wasnt out of malice which is why im commenting this to try to help educate more ppl as a trans person this is a very othering thing to hear that cis ppl do far too often. and specifically as a trans fem lesbian who has to fight tooth and nail to be included in my own community hearing the phrase "same sex attraction" when reffering to sapphic ppl is incredibly triggering. thank u both again for ur content n i hope this helps anyone make their trans fem friends just a little more comfy
@@Hip.Username hi thank u for asking kindly!! /gen okay so the answer is both yes and no ill just give my understanding of the term. trans fem is an umbrella term for ppl who are transitioning into femininity which includes trans women but also includes non-binary ppl who identify w femininity like myself! in my experience its most commonly used as a self identifier by ppl like me who dont solely identify as a woman but still want to be percieved femininely
Yeah, with the Jeselnik, I was also into the super edgy humor, until everyone got bored of it. Now edgy humor is mostly just saying bigoted things, then hiding behind humor when someone criticizes you
That story was WILD, oh lord. Can confirm New Zealanders tend to be very accommodating! You can call us Kiwis; we call ourselves that too! Also...not Jordan making enemies of all of France... :^)
@redundantmartyr that story made me feel so sad for them! They were so sweet but I hope now they are less accommodating to such behavior. The people they interacted with in those different countries were just so cruel and I hope they have better experiences in the future. Also, hello from America! 👋😊
I was friends with someone in college (emphasis on “was”) who took every “how’re you doing?” as an invitation to trauma dump that week’s misfortunes onto that person. Didn’t matter if she knew the person well or not, same result each time. It wasn’t that she didn’t understand social cues or anything like that, she was just someone who wanted everyone to know that her life was a Tragedy™ and she wanted sympathy. So Jarvis, I sympathize, man. It’s awkward and exhausting when you accidentally get caught up in that.
I semi gave up on constantly looking presentable when my husband and I paid $150 to eat at the Bachannal buffet in Las Vegas, while dressed in my nicest clothes and then had to sit there envious of all the people wearing crocs. It's ok to be comfortable when you're not specifically trying to make an impression.
Sometimes when my brain is going fast I like to listen to podcasts and commentaries on x1.25 speed and it kind of helps me bring it back down to regular reality speed because I really focus on what you’re putting down and sad boyz is the best for this 🔥
I think Jarvis you’d like the world of K-pop; I mean, would be interesting to have his take on the industry (specially now with the latest news about the merge/acquisition by HYBE )
Jarvis, I wouldn’t be surprised if you would benefit from jaw surgery since you had an open bite (iirc). I couldn’t breathe out of my nose my entire life and had a v recessed lower jaw. I had both of my jaws broken and reset, and it literally changed my life. One of the first things I said when I woke up from surgery was “wow, I can actually breathe”. I do also have a deviated septum, but the underlying structure of my skull/jaws is what made the HUGE difference
The recovery is definitely a mission, but you’d be able to get back to recording vids with a swollen (but honestly not as bad as you’d think) face in like 1.5 months
I got removable braces when I was very young because my lower jaw was very recessed and it helped me with everything, it's so weird how something so small can change your life so much.
Yay the wonderful sad boys are here to be wonderful and sad. You are both so delightfully, effortlessly funny and while you often say things I wouldn't have thought about, I've yet to hear a bad take. How freeing it is to be honest about life and laugh about the absurdity of it even if the laughter punctuates weeks of lying in bed trying to be a person or staring at nothing or wondering if you'll be okay... Or weeks of everything being just fine, too. You two are so thoughtful, keen and observant despite the flippant personas and steady stream of jokes, I feel like this show would be great whether you were the saddest or happiest boys in the world... You're so engaged in being alive, vibing with each other, really just... you seem like you both are always paying attention to what matters, but not navel gazing either Thank you for making such an affirming, grounding show
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“Speaking of… none of the stuff we were talking about” is the funniest conversational transition I have ever heard
As an autistic person, someone asking me "how are you?" but not actually wanting to know is what I fear, Talk about fight or flight responce; when people ask "how are you" it's panic because I have to play a double game in my head of "is this person actually trying to ask me something or is this a social thing?" while also having to figure out if I've even known them well enough to anwser honestly.... I just say "it's going" because well, I don't want to be the person who overstays their welcome, let alone get a story told about me on a podcast because I thought I could open up one time.
I have exactly the same problem. Especially if I'm having a bad day. You ever accidentally unload on someone, realize they were just being nice, and then ask them how they're doing only for them to say, "good."?
I'm just genuine and have not understood that some people ask with the expectation of being lied to. I don't find that nice. I'd rather if someone doesn't care, they don't ask. 乁༼☯‿☯✿༽ㄏ
HWHWH same :3 i found out you weren't actually supposed to say (to most people) how ur Actually doin until my therapist told me when i was like 17 and my brain just went O H N O
@@kahlips0180 it’s because neurotypical people use the phrase as a greeting. They’re not so much expecting you to lie as they are expecting you to understand that it’s not an actual question. You’re supposed to respond with the expected quick response. If they’re a friend or family member or something then it potentially opens the opportunity to bring up more genuine answers, but for most people “I’m good”, “same old same old”, or “it’s going” are the kind of answers you’re expected socially to respond with unless asked more questions. Nobody explains this to us though because they expect us to magically understand. We interpret it as a literal question rather than a greeting ritual with expected responses.
They’ve also talked before on this podcast about how they prefer when people will lie about being really happy and confident even if feeling negative and insecure because that fake confidence is more comfortable for those around you. So this asking how people are and expecting the generic answers is probably related to that mentality too, which I personally wouldn’t think would be healthy but I think it might be the neurotypical standard. So idk. It’s all very confusing to me.
My workaround has been to be really really simple about how it's going and you cover both. BUT, if someone is walking by you and it doesn't look like they're stopping, this is just a greeting. But when I'm struggling, I'll say "hanging in there" or "getting through" because for me, it's not saying I'm okay, but as long as I'm not in need of severe intervention, those things are true. They're short enough to be a quick greeting, but honest enough that it opens the floor if they ARE genuinely caring.
I love that they straight up forgot Alison Brie, too focused on Yvette Nicole Brown. I love it.
Jordan’s story about stepping on his mum’s nose after she got surgery sent me into orbit! His poor mum
That story makes me so glad I don’t have kids
Jarvis’ face too hahahha
SO MUCH CONTENT LATELY THANK U GUYS!! its so nice to see you two back in person together and im glad jordan seems to be happier there :,)
If you have been training with your hair as is, KEEP IT!!!! How you train is how you should compete. It will throw you off having something different when your focus should be elsewhere. Braids will feel like pulling and shaved will feel like something is missing and you may get mat/gi/rug burn. Hair really affects fighting, especially how you twitch/shake sweat from your face and how it comes from the top of your head. Same for beards, if you had it while training keep it! If you MUST shave face or head(or anything else like legs or arms), do a week in advance so you can manage any skin issues. And don't forget to trim your nails a weeks in advance if your undernails tend to stay raw for a few days.
this is pretty good advice, nice
Braids might make you more aggressive because of the pain on your scalp lol
Whenever I get my 24 inch mid back braids I feel like killing whoever talks to me for like a week
God that Kiwi sounds like the sweetest, most unlucky person! Good luck to you, EA Sports, sounds like you need it!
Can't get over the idea of the world's most powerful lesbian being named EA Sports, god bless you EA Sports 🫡
How are we so lucky to have so much sad boyz 😁
We are not worthy
Aotearoa isn't IN New Zealand, it IS New Zealand haha. it's the native Maori name for New Zealand! it's often used in English too as essentially a nickname/just other name for the country, but in the Maori language it's just simply the word you use for the country as a whole
to be fair to patreon man-it is a bit silly that we have a culture of socialization that requires you to ask each other how you are but at the same time expects you to be dishonest with your answer and only respond with good or fine. not that it makes it ok to unload his personal traumas on you but it is a bit convoluted how we are expected to behave disingenuous with one another
yeah maybe i undersold the unloading super personal information with a stranger element because that was supposed to be the focus
@@SadBoyzPodi definitely picked up on your point! to clarify i didn’t add this comment to critique you or how you felt about the situation-just to point out how odd human communication is! :)
I am going through a rough ass breakup right now and this is the perfect anti loneliness podcast right now
Same🤝
True
The fact that Jarvis has NSYNC records is incredible! Donald Glover or Lance Bass on a ep would be the dopest thing ever! Love them both!
This week was perhaps the PERFECT time for me to start listening to Sad Boyz
14:05 hearing Jarvis talk about Eurovision would make me so happy
😁
Maybe it's a hot take to think so for some reason, but Kpop being extremely manufactured doesn't devalue the fact that they want to be artists, and so often it feels like people are blaming the artists for the corruption of their companies. It's a deeply corrupted place, but these kids want to be artists and allow the companies to do way too much, because becoming an artist through self-made channels is pretty impossible if you don't have songwriting/producing/lyricism/marketing/etc skills.
People are quick to dislike kpop on the basis that it's all manufactured, but the kpop artists want to be Idols - you don't get in accidentally, and you definitely don't get in without getting hurt (being kept as a trainee for years / having to move companies for better chances even though they may also reject you / racism from many angles / more known stuff like eating disorders and grindsets / etc) so it always makes me feel a little sad that they get treated as lesser artists simply because they're kpop.
Anyway this is mostly just a rant and I'm not looking to start fights or discussions, it just... rubs me up wrong I guess, especially because they're kids most of the time and don't realise that being 20+ years old isn't the end of their life, and that taking time to become a musician isn't going to make them Late. It's all a gross catch 22.
Okay but the millions of little topics the video is broken into is just what happens when two people with ADHD talk
When I was a grad student, I shared office space with 2 professors, 2 post-docs, and 2 grad students, and the 7 of us would have nerf gun battles all the time. It was a great way to relieve stress. But yeah, some people got annoyed when they just wanted to get work done lol.
hello kiwi here , kia ora is hello/a general greeting that translates to ~'wishing good health' in maori and aotearoa is the maori name for new zealand !
kia ora is pronounced 'ki / ao / ra', like 'key or uh'
and aotearoa is pronounced 'ao / te / a / ro / a', like 'aw tay uh ro uh'
Just adding. The R is rolled hard and fast, sounding a little like a soft D (I mean, not really, but when you're not used to hearing the language it kinda does).
The chocolate balls had me in tears of laughter which is great because if I was them I would be crying the other type of tears. The real tragedy as that they never got to eat the cereal
can confirm there is at least one sheep in georgia, my dad used to work at the atlanta history center and they had some
Ohhh my god Jordan reenacting watching in terror from the doorway complete with ridiculous pose has got me falling out
I'm so proud of Jordan for finally learning how to hold a mic
Okay but can I just say thank you for wearing socks ?? The other day I watched a different podcast on RUclips & saw a bare foot . Idk why but it freaked me out immediately 😂😂
the person only making a partial getaway after spilling the cocoa cereal everywhere is killing me
I could go on for hours and hours about the kpop industry and how insane it is in terms of manufacturing content it's craaazy. Love this podcast btw. EDIT: I AM A LISTENER OF KPOP I have groups I like and stuff. But I'm not foolish enough to ignore the issues in the industry...
I could go on for hours about how scary I find it people will understand the industry and still stan manufactured personalities the performers are forced to maintain
Like no you don’t love that guy you love the fake person a music exec who has them locked into a torturous contract made. Not entirely sure u ever met. A person
@@Lucifersfursona I don't entirely agree. On one hand, I see what you mean but on the other hand, not all of these kpop idols are as fake as you seem to think they are. But maybe I'm biased cause I actualy listen to kpop and I like the music and have groups I like... but BTS for example started out incredibly small, and a lot of their success actually came from them contributing to and writing their own music and people appreciating that about them. And the industry has evolved more, I personally feel there's a lot of groups, maybe not as well known as the most popular groups, that despite how fake the industry seems they've prevailed because of their love of music. There's a group I like called Stray Kids for example that produces and writes all their music and have found success despite- no, *because* they're self made, not because they put on any persona. But that's just my opinion. I still think there's a lot of shitty aspects about the industry but it's not that different from the problems present in the western music industry.
@@Lucifersfursona hmm I see where you’re coming from and I can acknowledge that I am biased as I’ve been a fan of Bts for the past 6 years but there are definitely Kpop groups that do not fit that mold. Bts for example do not imo I will not deny parasocial relationships as they are rampant in any entertainment industry especially Kpop but there are genuine artists not in “slave contracts” also not that you said this or anything but many others love the narrative of all Kpop idols being “fake, plastic, manufactured, controlled artists” then refuse to acknowledge the issues in the western industry which imo is a pretty xenophobic take (again not talking about you just in general)
@@DanasGoneCrazy I will kindly disagree. Most kpop groups are owned by multimillion dollar who recruit young kids and will groom them from as young as the age of 8.
Most of these idol have lives similiar to the slaves that had good singing voices and wereforced to sing in events held by their owners for the slave owner to boast their wealth.
They are forced to follow a strict lifestyle to maintain their beauty and undergo hundreds if not thousands of surgeries and other medical procedures to artificially introduce changes to their bodies.
Moreover alot are not allowed to express their sexuality or are forced to lie about their sexuality based on what the company that owns their group thibks will be most profitable.
Alot of them even have manufactured stories, for example, did the bts guys really write their own songs? Who knows, and even if they did the corporat behind them probably has altered it to the point it can't even be considered to be written by them.
Do they really sing so good, no of course not, alot of them seem to lack basic vocal training, but does it matter? The corporate behind them definitely has a team of people that alter their songs to the point it can't even be considered to be sung by them.
It's a similiar story to Tpain, his songs are def his but to say they were sung by him would be false (also putting this out, yes I know Tpain has a great singing voice and the only reason he used auto tune so much was to parody the artists that relied too much on auto tune.)
So in essence, the person you stan isn't an actual human being but an fake persona manufactured by an capitalist corporation destined for the purpose of getting folk like you to stan them.
They aren't treated like humans fr. I find it especially sad that every single one of the trainees are told what type of surgeries they need to look good enough before they've finished growing, they have super restrictive diets and will go weeks with only a couple hours of sleep each night when debuting, and fans will still point out physical flaws or mess ups. We live in a society.
I’m from Aotearoa too and I had such a culture shock going to Europe and England too!! it’s normal here for people to go everywhere in their PJs and I felt bad for the people that live there to feel pressure to dress in normal clothes to go to the supermarket or pharmacy lmao, could never b me
I hope Jordan was just joking about not wanting to do the show any more because I'm loving the frequent uploads. However, don't feel forced into making tons of content just for the sake of it-- if y'all need a break I'll wait! Or if you want to do something new and different, that's cool too. Whatever floats your boat.
26:31 as someone who's been a kpop stan for almost a decade (that's weird to think abt wow) lots of kpop idols are definitely told how to act depending on which company they're "owned" by (of which there are infinitely many lol), where they are, what they're doing, how far along in their career they are, and what gender they are (ofc... sigh)
yeah also kpop is the complete opposite of industry plant culture. you will already debut with a decent fanbase if you come from a big company, it’s never hidden
the chapters in this are crazy
i love the way you guys explain things because i know nothing about the nba but the play-by-play explanation of lebron getting the scoring record was so well done that i feel like i do know about the nba for some reason
Sipping coffee but spilling tea. Absolute icons.
I also completely blank every time someone asks "What did you do this weekend?" ("What did you have for breakfast?" etc.)
Your talking about the Patreon office change made me think of my team's experience. I work in a specialized group of legal assistants for a huge law firm where we run a 24-hour operation, and the office we used to be in was this run down but super charming building in Queens. My team was in the basement, but the building itself had so much character that it didn't feel dingy. Now we're in the firm's giant high rise and it is SO drab. I'm grateful they let the overnight people change to remote during the pandemic so I don't have to go in.😅
Can I just say how refreshing it is to watch a podcast made by people who (I'm guessing by all the references) are my age? It feels like there's so many kiddos on youtube and they're great.. but there's something awesome about listening to a podcast that I can completely relate to all the way through! Love you guys! So glad I discovered this channel this week!
My son (13) showed me (30) this channel and I have NEVER IN MY LIFE felt so seen and represented by a show ❤ And thank you Jarvis and Jordan for being such a grounded wholesome influence on young men!
As someone who was also around for all the 90s groups, I assumed BTS's situation would be similar. And it is, but the kpop industry goes HARD. Like Nsync & BSB were kinda of like, the only really big manu'd groups at that time, and that industry died after all the stuff about their manager/producer came to light. BTS is literally the tip of the kpop iceberg. It's also ridiculous to know they grab these children & put them in what I can only describe as some kind of intense idol boot camp. However, I will say BTS is a group that should 100% be checked out. I wholeheartedly expected them to be a group of stuck up asses, but they come off as totally genuine, funny, kind, relatable & a bunch of huge dorks (which I find incredibly endearing). Of course this is all parasocial, but I still feel as though there is at least some truth to what we're shown. Also they're very talented and have some bangers.
been binging sad boyz for the past few weeks i think this is the episode that has made me laugh the hardest. the whole bit at the end was fucking hilarious
my mental health is absolutely in shambles at the moment and I am so so happy to have more sadbays today. Thank you for being on a content high, you both make me really happy and you're both wonderful people. Thank you again
Hope you're doing well 💝
@@frosty_teacup I am doing so good! I hope you're doing well too 🥰
@@_b_o_ring I'm so glad to hear that!! I'm recovering from covid right now but I'm doing well overall! Sending good vibes 🤪✨
this may be the first podcast that i genuinely want to continue to watch, i watched my first episode of it two days ago n i just love how relaxed yet still funny it is sometimes podcasts have too many jokes so i can’t like do something while listening to them because i’ll miss something important or they’re just boring but this has a just naturally balanced amount of jokes and just talking n it’s very entertaining and easy to complete tasks with, might be my new makeup routine addition !
The office I used to work at had one of those electric table hockey things. It was pushed into the far corner of the canteen, behind a table, where there weren't any sockets. I don't know if it was broken or they just didn't want us using it, but the fact it was there visible to everyone who worked there but completely unusable says something about the company. I'm just not sure what.
Gotta admit that I refuse to lie when people ask me how I am. However, it's always a short answer and I never go into detail because I know they're not really interested.
How are you?
I'm okay.
Just okay?
Yup. Just okay.
5:40 literally same, I have adhd and I simply can’t remember when people ask. Same as “hey, what’s up?” Or “whatcha doing” I’ll completely blank.
My father hates it tho lol
I cant describe how much i love this show, it makes bad days so much more bearable and good days even greater
The last time I commented was probably in 6th grade i feel gross 😟
My husband roots for the Detroit Pistons and flavor flav shows up at random Michigan sports games all the time. The last one you could see him the entire basketball game because he had an all white full bejeweled suit and a giant white clock on his neck.
Glad that he hasn't changed a bit like omg that's hilarious
someone asks "What've you been up to? How are you?" and I leave my body and forget every aspect of the human existence
Also @Jarvis a family member of mine had the nose surgery (deviated septum+polyps) and it requires lots of aftercare but it's definitely worth it!! And you'd still be able to record 72 hrs post-surgery.
Jarvis' Andrew Tate impression continues to be scarily accurate
re: the first awkward moment penpal, gotta say I once (also in the UK) brushed against a shelf in a supermarket and a wine bottle fell off and smashed all over the floor and the sales assistants who came over to clean it up were more concerned that I was ok with all the broken glass everywhere than angry, and that's how they should have been for the beer bottle situation in the penpal's story too! Definitely not your fault sometimes these things just happen
criss👏🏻cross👏🏻applesauce👏🏻 sad boyz on the couch 👏🏻
sad boyz keeps getting better and better
40:36 flashbacks to when I was 4 and broke my moms nose, doing something similar (I headbutted her in the face)
Hell yeah, new Sad Boyz, let's gooooo
I love the NSYNC lore. I was Team BSB growing up, but still, good content. 10/10, please continue.
These frequent uploads are comforting af, tbh! Grateful for y'all and your realness (and so enjoying the in person format)! 💓💓💓
It’s been a tough few days and the Boyz are getting me through 💙
what would be even more of an anime storyline is if lebron's son decided he wanted to beat his father and played for another team to try to overtake him
All this sad boyz content is making me happy boyz
A few yrs ago when the pod wasn't super active I would constantly wish it was back so I've been SO thankful for all these new episodes lately ❤️ We're eating good tonight
This was the reminder I needed that Pedro Pascal is in the community table read 😄
FYI Aotearoa is pronounced like "Ow-tey-ah-roe-ah" and is the Maori (indigenous peoples) name for the country :))
never thought I'd feel this bad for EA Sports
I love sad boys when it's just all that smart ADHD experience of getting distracted by the inner workings of your own mind. And wanting to just explain it all to somebody because you have just discovered something so important to you only.
P.S. I'm sorry for saying 'smart ADHD' I don't know the right way to say 'people who are good at thinking and do it for fun'
Nothing Jordan has ever done has made him seem more British than hating the French...
Man I was an extra AN EXTRA on a show in October of 2022- past the main covid break- and every single one of us got pcr tested the morning before we shot anything
OH NO WAYYY i didnt even realise u JUST posted this! Episode seems great already ❤️
i work in the ecommerce and tech industry. About 3-4 people fired within the span of a week, and some of the reasons were nucking futs. One of them was because apparently someone parked in an executives spot. Like what the actual fuck is wrong with management
you guys have great faces we love to see ur faces we love your faces
You mentioned the Community table read and now I have to watch the whole thing again! This is a curse I must bare. Also, you forgot about Allison Brie. Come on.
AB, Jarvis, and Myth all fighting in creator clash 2 is so fucking rad! I’m hyped for all of you! You got this Jarvis
i have smthn to mention that triggered me as a trans fem but before i get into that i just wna thank both of u for the great content!!! love u both :3 /gen
!!! tw for trans misogyny and general transphobia !!!
55:32 please do not equate sexual orientation to the attraction of a specific assigned sex :(
i know this wasnt out of malice which is why im commenting this to try to help educate more ppl
as a trans person this is a very othering thing to hear that cis ppl do far too often.
and specifically as a trans fem lesbian who has to fight tooth and nail to be included in my own community hearing the phrase "same sex attraction" when reffering to sapphic ppl is incredibly triggering.
thank u both again for ur content n i hope this helps anyone make their trans fem friends just a little more comfy
Just for clarity when you say trans fem do you mean transwoman? I want to understand but I feel like most of what you said went over my head lol sorry
@@Hip.Username hi thank u for asking kindly!! /gen okay so the answer is both yes and no
ill just give my understanding of the term. trans fem is an umbrella term for ppl who are transitioning into femininity which includes trans women but also includes non-binary ppl who identify w femininity like myself! in my experience its most commonly used as a self identifier by ppl like me who dont solely identify as a woman but still want to be percieved femininely
@@radiantcatgirl oh ok, thank you! I can see how it would be impossible to label who you're attracted to with something like same sex/hetero etc.
53:26 as a fellow European (and France hater) i totally had the same thought
jarvis 32:27 u missed alison brie ur welcome
Yeah, with the Jeselnik, I was also into the super edgy humor, until everyone got bored of it. Now edgy humor is mostly just saying bigoted things, then hiding behind humor when someone criticizes you
Can confirm that I love seeing your faces! So cute hearing your New Zealand pronunciations; I love hearing mentions of my little homeland! 🥰💕
That story was WILD, oh lord. Can confirm New Zealanders tend to be very accommodating! You can call us Kiwis; we call ourselves that too! Also...not Jordan making enemies of all of France... :^)
@redundantmartyr that story made me feel so sad for them! They were so sweet but I hope now they are less accommodating to such behavior. The people they interacted with in those different countries were just so cruel and I hope they have better experiences in the future. Also, hello from America! 👋😊
i appreciate that they put a timestamp for every minute which was completely unnecessary but definitely happened
The community reunion is the single greatest video, it Got me through a lot lol
MORE?? this just made my day
I was friends with someone in college (emphasis on “was”) who took every “how’re you doing?” as an invitation to trauma dump that week’s misfortunes onto that person. Didn’t matter if she knew the person well or not, same result each time. It wasn’t that she didn’t understand social cues or anything like that, she was just someone who wanted everyone to know that her life was a Tragedy™ and she wanted sympathy. So Jarvis, I sympathize, man. It’s awkward and exhausting when you accidentally get caught up in that.
28:55 this is a GREAT cut
I semi gave up on constantly looking presentable when my husband and I paid $150 to eat at the Bachannal buffet in Las Vegas, while dressed in my nicest clothes and then had to sit there envious of all the people wearing crocs. It's ok to be comfortable when you're not specifically trying to make an impression.
10:30 Qt did a Bayblade tournament! It was great but would be even better if it had more people, including you guys.
5:24 i have adhd & autism and tbh same like i don't want to lie but i also don't know shit abt myself AT ALL, EVER
omg the outro song's back !! missed it from the last couple eps and kept mentally filling it in lmao
Ripstickin’ in The Atrium is a pretty good album
12:20 flawless jkr impression
Sometimes when my brain is going fast I like to listen to podcasts and commentaries on x1.25 speed and it kind of helps me bring it back down to regular reality speed because I really focus on what you’re putting down and sad boyz is the best for this 🔥
Same!
I'm enjoying coming back to this now and seeing Jarvis juuuuust getting into basketball
I think Jarvis you’d like the world of K-pop; I mean, would be interesting to have his take on the industry (specially now with the latest news about the merge/acquisition by HYBE )
I second this!
I love that these podcasts r back :D
So knowledgeable about bball without knowing the terminology lol, love it!
This has become comforting content for me.
Was not expecting to be in this video
E H H H - Jordan
I would love to see Jarvis in a protective style 😍
This makes me so happy ❤❤ thoroughly enjoy listening to y’all. Commenting for algorithm:)
Jarvis, I wouldn’t be surprised if you would benefit from jaw surgery since you had an open bite (iirc). I couldn’t breathe out of my nose my entire life and had a v recessed lower jaw. I had both of my jaws broken and reset, and it literally changed my life. One of the first things I said when I woke up from surgery was “wow, I can actually breathe”. I do also have a deviated septum, but the underlying structure of my skull/jaws is what made the HUGE difference
The recovery is definitely a mission, but you’d be able to get back to recording vids with a swollen (but honestly not as bad as you’d think) face in like 1.5 months
I got removable braces when I was very young because my lower jaw was very recessed and it helped me with everything, it's so weird how something so small can change your life so much.
55:15 just a bitta banter
Y’all are spoiling us with this much content
Did not expect the casual John Morrison mention
Yay the wonderful sad boys are here to be wonderful and sad.
You are both so delightfully, effortlessly funny and while you often say things I wouldn't have thought about, I've yet to hear a bad take.
How freeing it is to be honest about life and laugh about the absurdity of it even if the laughter punctuates weeks of lying in bed trying to be a person or staring at nothing or wondering if you'll be okay... Or weeks of everything being just fine, too.
You two are so thoughtful, keen and observant despite the flippant personas and steady stream of jokes, I feel like this show would be great whether you were the saddest or happiest boys in the world...
You're so engaged in being alive, vibing with each other, really just... you seem like you both are always paying attention to what matters, but not navel gazing either
Thank you for making such an affirming, grounding show
dot hon hon cracked me up
Y’all are so amazing.