Andre Iguodala & Evan Turner Go In On The 2017 Warriors vs. 1996 Bulls Debate
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- Опубликовано: 12 сен 2024
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Andre Iguodala & Evan Turner deep dive on the full roster matchups that would comprise their take on which team would win between the 2017 Golden State Warriors (Klay Thompson, Kevin Durant, Steph Curry, Draymond Green, etc) & the 1996 Chicago Bulls (Michael Jordan, Scottie Pippen, Dennis Rodman, etc) An insightful (and heated) debate.
The Point Forward podcast, hosted by former NBA teammates and current best friends Andre Iguodala and Evan Turner, uses basketball as a pretext to honestly and openly talk about business, culture, race, tech, and, yes, sports. Specifically, over the course of weekly hour-long episodes that drop on #pointforwardfriday, Iguodala and Turner, discuss and debate current national and global events in a way that is meant to resonate with everyone from the Silicon Valley elite to teenagers on the south side of Chicago.
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I guess they didn’t know that every team in the nba tried to do everything you would try and do to stop MJ. It just wasn’t possible.
They will never be another MJ,pipen,rodman,
The Pistons did a good job
Wayyyyyy more talent nowadays
@@ImadogGarcia
For a while, then they got swept and that was it.
@cynkendricdonte1782
I don't really know what you mean by more talented. There are only 9 active players that are in the top 100 all-time leading scorers. Of the top 100 All-Time scorers 25 of played in or are from the Golden State Warriors or LeBron James era of basketball. The other 75 are from the Bulls era of basketball or older. This means that even with ALL the "more skilled" players you're claiming, they're still not putting a dent in the main or leading stat category. The only thing that has really changed is the shot selection and maybe the skill @ shooting that shot that is more preferred now which is the 3pt shot but that still has not created more prolific scorers. The last prolific scorers were Wilt Chamberlain and Michael Jordan. They are the only two top 10 all-time leading scorers that did not play 19 or 20 years in the NBA. Wilt played 14 years and Jordan played 15 years. They both also are the only 2 in the top 10 that played less than 1100 games all other players in the top 10 played 1200 or more games. The only active player that is threatening and probably will crack the top 10 in scoring in less than 1100 games is Kevin Durant. He sits at 13th all time right now with 986 games under his belt. That in and of itself shows that Durant is a, or rather, the prolific scorer of the Golden State Warriors and LeBron James era though he still will take more than 16 years to pass up Wilt and Jordan. The precedence I am trying to set is that with all this skill they got today it is taking them quite a lot of time to pass up the "plumbers" of yesterday since that's what they call them in this era AND they shoot the 3pt more and a lot better than the "plumbers." Really the only reason why most of them look like they're scoring more is they are just playing longer. Imagine if Wilt or Jordan played 19 or 20 years also. What kind of scoring conversation would we be having. Again I'm emphasizing the skill of scoring because that is what ultimately determines who wins the game.
1. LeBron James
2. Kevin Durant
3. James Harden
4. Russell Westbrook
5. Chris Paul
6. Stephen Curry
7. DeMar DeRozan
8. Damian Lillard
9. Rudy Gay
These are the active 9 that are in the top 100 of scoring from greatest in points to the least. I suggest you look @ how many years they've been playing. Then possibly if you let go of your bias you'll realize that the players to today are not as great as they're making them out to be and to stop disrespecting the players sorry I mean "plumbers" of yesterday.💯🔥🔥🔥
People can dissect and give take whatever they want but at the end of the day I wont pick against jordan's bulls because they did not lose, they always find a way to win.
Always. It's literally a mental game. Jordan's mentality was ALL and there was no such thing as nothing. Where as LeBron was ALL but nothing was still an option.
Exactly.
Rodman on green 6'7" v 6'7"
Scottie on durant 6'9" v 6'11"
Harper on klay 6'6" v 6'5"
Jordan on steph 6'6" v 6'5"
Man to man D. Bulls player can guard the gsw player.. the question is who guard MJ on offense. 90s rules or rules now no one can guard MJ..
Warriors were 16-1
@@railroadjesus49- and yet, they didn't play the Bulls!
I'm glad these two are honest Bulls all day. If it was a finals game Bulls 4-2
Bulls for me in this Era no hand checking or any other of the old rules in place jordan and pippin would go crazy. Even kukoc would have a field day.
Exactly. KUKOC GETS A MASSIVE GLOW UP!!!!
Facts!!!
He would be something similar to Lamar Odom. Maybe better with these rules
Idk why it's so hard to understand that
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If you double MJ with Rodman's defender, Rodman will pull down 20 offensive rebound & be among the top scorers
People tend to forget Rodman could shot the ball. Like he really could score. He did it in Detroit and from time to time did it on the Bulls.
The fact is rodman can score too😅
@@ktpbd21974 REPLIES
Even better, double Mj and leave Kerr open for 3 all day haha. Kerr would drop 50
@@datravelinman He never had more than 23 in any game in the playoffs, and he only got to 23 in one season. The most he had in any playoff game with Chicago was 15, and reached that in only one post-season.
No hand checking, Free flowing Ron Harper, Michael Jordan, Scottie Pippen, Toni Kukoc and Dennis Rodman. Man, just imagine MJ and Toni today.
Omg it would be a massacre! Bulls sweep or it goes 4-1
PIPPEN WAS BETTER THEN KUKUC
@@jwick1215 nah warriors sweeping shit
@@jaylonsadler5641 you must not have ever watched basketball with a comment like that, but I get your loyalty
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Pippen and Jordan are the best perimeter defenders ever. Rodman one of the greatest defender and rebounder of all time. Harper was no slouch in defense neither. Jordan claiming curry, Pippen frustrating KD, Harper containing Klay, Rodman clamping Draymond. The warriors don’t have the defense to stop the bulls triangle offense. Bulls in 6 and only because the bulls players partied the night before games.
MJ struggles against quick guards so guarding Curry isn't going to work for him! Chris Jackson, Allen Iverson both would cooked MJ, Pip had to guard those players. NBA skills are to great, 2017 shooting more 3s while Bulls are shooting 2s. No chance!
@@mcdiesel7505 Who would Steph guard? Whether Jordan, Ron Harper, or Pippen he's getting cooked. All 3 of em would back Steph down and post him up over and over. All 3 would shoot over Steph easily. On offense Steph would get some shots but he'd be doing a lot of running around to get free while being guarded by bigger players. And on defense he'd be worn out.
@@roboninja3194 You obviously don't understand basketball, they could go zone. Steph is not guarding none of those guys. KD, Dray, 2 way Klay, Iggy will be the 4 guarding that 4. Curry is cooking Kerr buddy!
@@roboninja3194 Granted Steph can only be matched up against Harper. But to say he'd be worn out, you do not know Steph's workout regiment. It's legendary. He won't be worn out. And his moves off the ball would give any defender fits because they'd have to account for him even without the ball.
I'm not saying the Warriors would win hands down. I'm saying any of these 2 teams could beat each other in 7 game finals.
I'd give the slight edge to Jordan's Bulls cuz of Jordan alone. But they never had to guard the star power of Curry, KD and Thompson when it comes to their movement and their ability to shoot. And this Warriors defense is nothing to sneeze at either. They were # 2 overall in the Playoffs. Their 16-1 Playoff record is the best in NBA history.
It would be a great series no doubt.
Klay is torching Harper lol
Bulls had the best backcourt and wing defenders of all time. It would be a great series. Down the clutch though I got MJ, no one is athletic or physical enough to stop him
You're right I don't see anyone locking down Mike and that's where the difference lies for me
@@mlungisinkambule88662 REPLIES
Andre’s ability to keep it real and how cerebral he can be combined with Evans goofy responses and being low key smart makes for a great pod 👍
We appreciate that
@@pointforward2 REPLIES
He didn't keep it real though. He picked the 2012 dream team over the 1992 dream team. 😂
@@Bob-te3leKobe, Lebron, and KD on the same team? Magic and Larry were at the end of their careers 😬 I might have to lean 2012 but wtf do I know that’s tough lol
“He still held KD to 50” GOATED QUOTE
You caught that too ...obviously before me. He literally said "he held KD to 50" 😅😅😅
@@joelopez59822 REPLIES
I love Evan Turners take. REAL TALK. LOGICAL THINKING
I think it is a bad idea to double team off of Rodman or Harper. MJ has already shown he can regularly neutralize double teams. Playing off of Rodman can only lead to more offensive rebounds for chicago and Harper has been a 20 point average scorer before he joined the bulls.
There are 3 parts in a basketball game.
Offense, defense and rebounding.
96 Bulls has the advantage in 2 of those 3.
Warriors may be better on offense but the Bulls has MJ, probably and arguably the best scorer of all time.
Steph used to struggle with physical defense until this past season. His improve strength made him able to handle the celtics physicality which was not the case in 2017.
KD struggles with double team and physicality. they bring up PJ Tucker here but PJ is only 6'5. Rodman and Pippen were 6'8 to 6'9.
Jordan would probably be on Steph, in 1998 MJ has shown he can navigate through screens as he was trying to defend Reggie Miller.
Rodman is 6'6 and Pippen is 6'8.*
The better argument is Rodman and Pippen are two of the top defensive forwards all-time who can lock up multiple positions and switch between Steph and KD. Jordan can guard Klay and Harper will guard Draymond. The Bulls had four superior defenders and a big body center in the middle with Longley/Wennington or they can go small ball for Kukoc and just run the break and be aggressive on offense.
yup i bellive that bulls win not only they are the grater team but also a better one starting five as well as the bench dont get me wrong gsw was amazing but those bulls match up pretty well with them if u want anyone to try to stop kd rodman and pippen are collectivly caould at very least slow kd down and make him have bad shooting nights they were that good and for steph u would have jordan and harper they would make it real tough for them on the other hand no one is guarding mj and rodman dominates the boards easy bcz there is no real big in the paint even if it was hes outrebounding him too
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@@dustfid Sounds good but the Warriors spread the floor by shooting so well, Igs is a great defender and has offensive as well, pic and roll the bulls to death! GSW could also play zone! GSW are going to shoot 20 plus 3s more than the Bulls so it's just going to be difficult for 2s from the Bulls to outrun 3s from GSW! 3 of the top 10 shooters of all time with the top 2 in Klay and Curry. Defense is different now, you can guard space and cheat which you couldn't do in the 90s. Pick and roll the center and power forwards to death and get wide open shots!! GSW all day!!
Great debate but they don't know Tony is one of the best players EVER to come from Europe, Galinari is just a good player. Tony was super clutch!
Great discussion guys! It's always refreshing hearing these debates coming from real NBA players - always the best insight that people who've never played won't know about.
I just subscribed to your channel. I'm loving how you respect MJ. Hail Air Jordan! Good luck to your show and more power! Love lots to @Andre ❤
Tony Kukoc would be sick in today's NBA. His passing and shotting at his size, an easy 20 8 8 guy. Borderline all star. Way better then Gallinari(tbf injuries have really hurt his career).
He can play point too. And he is 6"10 6"11 guy. Like bulls are dynasty. Their players are stars in their own positions. Like look at rodman, look at kerr.
To me, the only mistake of this conversation is the sentence "Kukoc would be a Gallinari of this time". No way. Kukoc was faaaaar waaaayyy better than Gallo. Kukoc was a winner on Europe, a winner with his national team and a winner in the NBA. Today, Kukoc would be scary monster of stats.
Borderline all star? 🤦♂️ Kukoc is a lot better half of all stars this past years.
Kukoc would be Doncic on coke without the flop
You do realize Kukoc is HOFer??
How do you think he got there??
Andre saying what we really believe about certain players on the court 😂
Ron Harper was no joke that is the sleeper dude was scorer real talk
@cesarventura982 REPLIES
With Cavs
Everybody always underestimate Ron bro look it up he was the difference in a lot of games MJ didn't have a good game ever and Tony was no joke neither
Also
its not about whos guarding who..its all about consistencies..the 2023 just showed us..mj will have a shooting practice with the modern rules..if you give mj a small space he will take a jumper..i dont know why they always miss that aspect of mjs game..
Just remember what Kobe said. Jordan and Pippen was just relentless on defense. Warriors are a great team BUT never went up against a team that's great on DEFENSE and OFFENSE. Bulls bench was looong too. Now, you say let Jordan get what he gets....that could unfortunately be 40avg like in 93, and especially with todays rules...he has a clear lane...prime Jordan in todays rules would literally be unfair.
Not to mention the 2018 Rockets almost beat Golden State
ALLFacts
Yes that bulls team could win games at over 100 points or one that was on the 90’s cause of there defense
@@christianmorgan5956the rockets better than the bulls what
Very intelligent PODCAST!!! Thanks guys!!!
It would come down to the benches for each squad and the mj factor....mj in basketball 🏀 is like Tom Brady in football 🏈...it's hard to bet against them....that is why they the goats 🐐 of there sport!! 💯 #BullsIn6
The bulls won back to back 3 peats in arguably the hardest Era othe than the 80s. They never went to a game 7 even in 98 when they were the oldest team in the NBA and they were the underdogs.
The Bulls win it in 5 maybe 6 games, they were too good
Thank you.. An honest measure.. I usually don't dig the debate bc most of em ain't logical but emotional.. this was at least an interesting convo 🤌🏾
4-0 Bulls 90s rules. 4-1 Bulls today's rules.
That Bulls team was ridiculous good. Who in their right minds would bet against Jordan in a Final? MJ would have no problem to even guard Curry if he needed to. Mano a mano and trust me, Curry would not come out victorious.. Pippen on KD, Rodman on Green, Kukoc on Iguadaba. Game over
Ron Harper could score. He just changed his game. Filling the role on the bulls.
Hell, even Rodman could score if he wanted.
You don't want Steph on Ron Harper. Ron would be a problem.
@@jasonjamieson1690 Bulls don't need to play 1 on 1. They can switch from 1 to 5 with Buechler or Toni. GSW doesn't have players that penetrates.Their style of play evolves around pick and pop or roll. They'll just force them to play iso with kills teams momentum.
@Lovechie4life That's true, but that wasn't the point being made. We're talking about Ron Harper scoring, and Steph is not able to guard him.
@@jasonjamieson1690 Curry don't even have all team defense on his resume. Yes, Ron will eat on Curry's watch.
THIS MAN DID NOT JUST SAY U CANT HAVE 2 WHITE GUYS ON DEFENCE XDDDDDD
This is high level hoops convo
Totally agree pippin wouldn’t guard KD. Rodman would be wasted to guard Draymond. MJ guarding Steph through. You know he’s picking on the smaller player. But the disrespect to Ron Harper. Ouch.
Iggy a real 1. I'm sure GSW fans mad he picked Jordan's Bulls over his 2017 team
Nah he’s not wrong at all, our squad tends to have problems with bucket-getters and no one was as great at that as Michael Jefferey Jordan. Plus we have trouble w/ physicality & athleticism (‘19 Raptors, ‘22 Grizzlies, etc.) and MJ/Pip/Harper/Rodman were some dogs, picking up full court and everything. Couple that w/ the triangle system, a generational bench piece in Kukoc and you have arguably the only team in NBA history I’ll willingly admit could beat that ‘17 Dubs team….
Jordan ain't not God... He's a regular person ...
@@chezzlito 22 grizzly we beat and 19 raptors we was hurt and almost forced a game 7 and kuckoc not making no difference
@@brianzhou171 ain’t not talk 😂☠️
the bulls were 2 big for the Warriors and they had 3 of the top 10 defenders of all time and you could double or triple Mj it wouldn't matter he would find thrvopen player for easy shots bulls in 5
They were not that big of a team and we double mj who gonna score
@@jaylonsadler5641The double teams won't stop Jordan. Jordan never wasted time with the basketball.
@@jaylonsadler5641they were still way bigger than the midget warriors
Kukoc is not Gallinari, Toni is a point forward, he has handles & court vision of a point guard
But who would Steve Kerr put on Steve Kerr?
Andre pick the 2012 Over the 1992 dream team! Why do I waste my time with this bs
90s rules... Bulls in 6. 2010 rules...7 games, it's a toss up.
Rules not gonna matter rules don't stop the warriors from shooting.
@@kevben706 thats what you think, but how can they shoot if they are guarded by the best defenders?
@dnbr vinsmoke they were getting cooked by abdul rauf sorry but none of them are staying in front of Steph.
@@kevben706 if the warriors shoot 50% every game then it's a chip for them but below that, Bulls will just bully them in the paint and freethrows.
@@thenorthremembers728 if Steph will be consistent and shoot 50% then Bulls lose, but if not, Bulls will use the rules today as an advantage and drive all day with and one and warriors don't have an answer to that because kerr is not coaching them fro sure
Y’all realize they keep Saying the Kd warriors why not the 73-9 vs 92-10 bulls ! 😂😂 y’all already know the bulls will wash them cmon y’all ! It don’t matter the rules straight ball the Bulls beating the Kd team and washing the 73-9 warriors . Bulls in 5 if we being honest
90’s rules Bulls in 5. Todays game Bulls in 6.
This is some high level breakdown by players that know the triangle offense. The difference maker is defense and if the bulls start harper, Jordan, pippen, Rodman and Kukoc that's a wrap. Yes the rules, pace, science and all that play a factor, but defense isn't close
Listening to Andre, he has a bright basketball mind. He thinks about matchups like a coach
I like Iggys take on defense.. Scottie on Steph.. Dennis on KD .. MJ on dray and Harper on Klay
Iggy crazy Toni would be luka right now
Great Debate..... Taking the Warriors and Im a huge 90's Bulls fan... The Warriors motion offense with Steph, Klay and KD, who can all hit 7/8 threes, that will be the difference. Lebron had 51 in Game 1 and the Cavs still Lost,... JUST SAYING... Iggy is right Stop the others Let Jordan score all he wants..... 3 or more than 2. Its still a team game!
You’re not Bulls fan. We don’t believe you. Just knowing that MJ, Pippen, Rodman, and Ron Harper can all tightly guard the perimeter and switch off with each other let’s us know that the Warriors would have to work extremely hard for their shots.
@@parkermudsen1063gotta take into account the rules changes and the amount of illegal screens GSW has been getting away with for years
People really don't how Good Scottie Pippen was MJ was the best player on the court Scottie was the second best player real talk and that's the reason they was that good
@@parkermudsen1063 my sentiments exactly. He doesn't know basketball with that opinion. This is a Phil Jackson coached team. Adjustments will be made when needed dog.
Ron Harper was a perennial allstar that shot better than Pippen before he joined the Bulls. Tony Cucoch was a really good shooter as well. And Scottie by 96 was a good shooter to. The difference is the defensive pressure. Guys from this are know little about real physical Defense. They can't apply it and definitely couldn't deal with it. Dennis held a prime Shaq mote than once to very low scoring. Holding KD would be easier plus he was a masyer at getting in your head with mind games. The warriors had a roster full of talented shooters that have thrived in the soft era of defense. The Bulls were sharpened in the toughest defensive era of the league. It wouldn't even be close. 4-2 if the Bulls slacked up a couole games. Remember, they swept a prime Shaq and Penny. Even their coach (Steve Kerr) said it.
Glad to hear actual thought in this hypothetical
one thing for sure, dennis rodman will be sent out early, probably from tech or flagrant foul (given that he is dennis rodman and will not change the way he plays and still play with that 90s style)
Tight defense and hand checking changes everything. It keeps defenders closer both on and off the ball. The free flowing game style of today makes for easy drives and open looks all day; by 80/90s rules everything is contested and splash bros grind to a halt like they did against an amped cavs team playing their asses off in 2016. Add hand checking to inspired defense and warriors are frustrated, out of rhythm and losing their luster every trip up the court. Then they have to defend against MJ and a cohesive battle tested bulls squad on the other end. Warriors have no chance with all the physicality at play. I don’t think modern NBA fans understand how much the game changes when someone has their hand on your hip the whole time. You can play closer without getting burned by a drive and also contest shooting/3 ball. The rules were changed for the benefit of scoring; it’s never been easier to score and get comfortable with your long range game. The comparison cannot be without considering how each team would adapt to the rules/style of play.
Everybody know that life evolves so do players with time* you can't compare the present to back then*MJ was differences Maker in any era*
GSW was a half-court set team.... the 96 bulls was one of the most lethal half-court defending team in the history of the league... people don't realize that the 96 bulls was built to play in today's modern NBA.... MJ, pip, dennis, and ron can switch up in defense... that's 3 nba all-defense and a 6'6 bulldog on defense... toni can shoot lights out, steve was still the most accurate 3-p shooter in the history... wennington and longley are centers who can also shoot mid-range shots... if toni played in today's NBA, he will be like a slightly lower version of KD with better passing.....
I'm surprised that more people don't recognize the 96 Bulls were built for today's game. That Bulls team would win 9 out of 10 times all day.
With todays rules, who can stop Jordan if he plays 2023 rules. Imagine you can’t touch Jordan.
This podcast is 🔥
There is no debate ... With this modern cupcake Defense, The Bulls would destroy the Warriors
Pip was 6'7" and Rodman was 6'8" at best but most claimed he was 6'7".
Great take…Scottie on Steph.
I would be in Pippen’s head about his bad contract. Then I would distract Rodman with other stuff. 😂
distract rodman with girls
96 Bulls have the same offensive rating as the 16 Warriors even with no 3 point gameplay. On the other hand, the Bulls have the best defensive rating. So no, Warriors will not cook them with 3's. lol
I’m curious to see the modern day high screen and roll implemented with MJ and Pippen. If you’re gonna switch on one of those guys it’s over. The only thing is the lack of shooters the bulls had when one of those guys collapsed the defense. Tony, Kerr, Harp weren’t terrible from outside, but they don’t compare to the warriors players who were legit snipers from the outside.
Umm...what are you talking about. Kerr shot 51.5% from three in 96. His entire role on the Bulls was literally sniping from beyond the arc. And Kukoc was shooting it at 40.3% that year
They entire team would give you guys a problem, it would not even be close.
🤣 facts it would be a massacre brutal
Once Draymond says something snarky in the press, MJ will take it personal, and then it’s over… also Steve Kerr the coach is gonna go soft on his younger self.
Draymond would definitely run his mouth and that would be the end of the series.
You damn right the 96 bulls would have given them problems they would lose every game in any generation.
KD is the secret weapon. Because Stephen and Klay can shoot so well it gave KD so much room to work.
And I disagree I'm putting Pippen on KD, Jordan on Steph, Ron Harper on Klay. And Rodman on Draymond. If KD lights up Scotty I would switch Rodman on him. Man that would be such a good game.
Pip can check Steph KD...and Klay....Rodman on LB
Rodman on K.D., Pippen on Steph, Jordan on Klay. Bulls win
I played with the 1996 bulls in 2k, man, they are different like their first 5 can literary switch 5 positions. Like harper, jordan, pippen, rodman and longley. And if they replace longley with kukoc, man its over.
Doesn’t matter what era they’ll playing the game. Bulls would sweep
😂😂😂😂stop doing drugs
Kukoc was what Luka is now. He was a 6'10 Pure shooting Point Guard But him being Galanari? Nah...
This man said "MJ will get his 50" like thats just normal and the sad thing is IT IS 😳 🐐 😮
This is the clip that made me hit subscribe.
Kukoc was 6'11 and Jordan is a problem for any team.
When you do comparison between teams you can’t say if they had today’s skills..
Tatum guarded ya mans straight up😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Jordans Bulls would smash the Warriors. James Harden and Chris Paul took that Warriors squad to 7 games. So what do you think Jordan , Pippen and Rodman would do to them !
Don’t forget about Randy brown on Steph he was definitely a great defender
1 through 4 on the bulls are great defensive players
You double off dennis he's going straight to the offense boards
Rodman vs Draymond = Must See TV!
You need to add into the conversation the very early Showtime Lakers
i take MJ individually ... but i take the Dubs as a team
Yet get a lose on that season. Mj team didnt choke. They always dominate.
Bulls all Day Everyday, even the 92 dream team takes down any team the Warriors have
Common, javalle vs longley? Remember the best centers are playing during 90’s and still he hold his ground
Evan Turner sounds like "Meat wad" from Aqua teen hunger force 😂😂😂
Scottie on Steph? Yo if Delly gave Steph problems then no doubt Harper would
iggy is on point to match up kd to dennis but they dont know how many antics and bullshitting dennis can do to kd 🤦🤦 im imagining kd throwing punches to dennis after a quarter 🤣🤣
Warriors lose in either era … softer era makes it easier for the Bulls… tougher era makes it harder for the Warriors. Coming from the tougher eta is an advantage.
I'm sorry I grew up watching MJ and Bulls. That 96 Bulls were monsters. My sin and I watch Steph and Golden State. Yes, Stephs team is a great team, a dynasty team. I don't think they could have handled the depth of 96 Bulls. Rodman would throw Draymond around like a rag doll. They could double MJ, but he would still get 40+ on them. Back then there weren't flagrant 1, and 2s. They hand checked, Bulls were in a way more physical Era. I just don't think Golden State would be able to handle the physicality.
In my opinion, it would be like Jordan vs Bad boy Pistons. Bad Boys would just throw people on the floor.
Clamping Draymond Green is one significant key because he is the facilitator. How would steph and klay score without DG?
Rodman would be dismantling DG for sure. Then that’s it.
Hey ET get an organizer for all your shoes it’s distracting seeing them in the background! I’m still taking the 2017 Warriors!
Maybe don't pay attention to the background, though?? What? 😂
Curry.kd..klay.. too much for Jordan..Jordan ain't in his prime in 96.. he was slowing down..the early 90s bulls would give the 17 warriors a tougher matchup
Funny how most ppl feel the warriors would just destroy the bulls sweeping or gentlemen sweep them but yet the Houston rockets with Chris Paul and James harden almost eliminated the warriors had Chris Paul never got hurt in that series and that series went 7 ain’t no way ya think that Houston team better than the 96 bulls team
Same for Bulls Reggie Miller win 3game vs Bulls ONE STAR who is Klay with bad defense..Houston was no joke they can score 120ppg vs any team many 3
Bulls would go under screens every time though. It took the whole league like 3-4 years to figure out how to defend the deep 3pt threat, I mean, the celtics were STILL doing it in 2022. I doubt the bulls would magically figure out how to guard that in a 7 game series, as they just did not have the blueprint to guard against the high screen and roll action with that level of shooters back in the 90s. I mean, players weren't even really supposed to take 3s back then, so how could they even understand the nuances for guarding the modern 3pt NBA game or needing to respect the 30+ft 3s that nba players are taking now?
I think the warriors take it, mainly based on the fact that the bulls have been studied, and the bulls would not have the luxury of doing the same for the dubs
I like Rodman on KD. Rodman would slow him down. Rodman was so versatile, and strong as hell. plus I think Rodman would get under KDs skin. he would keep kds numbers down. now that's playing by 90's rules, today is a whole different ball game, Rodman would probably foul out by half time. lol. I think they are underestimating Kukoc. he was great. great shooter, could handle the ball and if they play him at point instead of Pippen, that would be a hard match up. I think steph would give the bulls some trouble, hes great off the ball and got a quick shot, especially today's rules, 90's rules being more physical, they could slow steph down but I think he'd still put up some numbers.
Ok now my question is who is guarding MJ. Easy 50. Pip will stop all that shit KD doing. Rodman is gonna be all in Draymond head. Kukoc off the bench averaging dam near 20
Iggy said he'd make MJ work??...😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
I don’t think the bulls would keep up with the pace of play. But the physicality of the bulls would wear on the warriors over the series. So i give the nod to the bulls over a series. But one game. I think it’s a honest toss up. Steph is a different guy. KD is different, and clay steady running off the ball 6’6 pulling it no dribble. Straight catch and shoot.
This is all True but they wud have problems with MJ, Pippen, Rodman, Kukoc & Harper make it worse if coach allows Kukoc to play Point Guard as he did in Europe then we still had Kerr Buechler & Longley who cud shoot the long ball so hey their hands wud be full.
Just remember mj is a psycho... if you tell him that bulls cant keep the pace against warriors.. he will make you pay..
All great teams adapt. That's what made them great
The pace of today's game? The pace in the 90's was way faster. Watch some MJ highlights, today's guys look like they are in slow motion compared to them.
Hey, I respect the both of you, but y'all know 1996 Bulls are the best team in NBA history. All valid points here.
Not a good idea to double off Rodman, dude got crazy high IQ. He ain't gonna hang around. There be teams who had Rodman hounded, and he don't even shoot. Coz they know you leave him, he gonna get 20 offensive rebounds.
ET goin off pure emotion rn😭
It’s simple play 3 games in different environments 1 game in the 90’s rule at bulls home, 2nd game 10’s rules at the warriors home, & then the last game play at a famous blacktop court with the blacktop rules & call your own foul!!
Now if we gonna play the bulls best record vs Warriors best record then kd isn’t on the roster yet. The warriors would lose for sure.!!
But adding kd could help some but not much!!
Bulls winning all 3 games!!!
Plus bulls have Jackson as the coach!! Sorry Steve!!
Andre you have no idea how good the Warriors are ;)
Good video BUT MJ WAS ON A ANOTHER BEAST WHEN THE GAME IN THE FINALS ON THE LINE I JUST SAIDING
Pippin would surprise KD and give him issues, not sayin he's better but would drop KD's ppg average and draw doubles