So happy to do it! The amount of possibilities that opened up after getting a quantizer kind of blew me away. Just made me really excited to share how to break that short 8 step loop.
I know, you could just get any basic synth with an arp on an iPad and be done in 2 minutes. This took thousands of dollars and hours of dedication. A commitment for sure.
You’re so welcome and thank you! That means a lot! Let me know if you have any questions etc. Happy to help and if there’s something I didn’t cover, I’m happy to do a part 3. There’s a couple extra uses for sure within this module and quantizers in general, I keep exploring.
@hessence honestly I hesitated for the longest time due to the cost thinking I could get away with a quantizer that was a bit more bare bones. But the more I thought about it I realized how many opportunities for fun and variety were built right in. I still have more to explore with it but each step has been pretty great. Pretty quick to expand a patch using the harmony functions. Anyway, I could go on and on. Thanks again for watching!
@@Molluszk the order of the notes in is determined by the mode of the arpeggio selected. There are 5 ways the pitches are navigated: ascending, descending, pendulum (back and forth), spiral, and random. You can also select for the arpreggio to go through a range of 1-4 octaves. The rhythm in eurorack can be determined by so many things. You could have one rhythm changing the pitches and triggering an envelope or you could have those two things changing independently. So you could set those as 16th notes or as a specific euclidian rhythm or pattern from say steppy etc. You can also further complicate or vary those things by using a switch to change between rythms or use the trigger out when the pitch changed or the track and hold to only allow pitches to change sometimes o (or when the cv into the gate in is high). Does that make sense? Happy to answer any and all questions and get deep into it. Love this module and it’s very different approach to melody.
Great intro to Eurorack melody and smaller rack space than a Sinfonion and I aways reset everything. It you ever get things wildly out from switching up sequence lengths just hit stop/start and you’re good to go again. I have a video on how to make PAMs your friend for such a task.
Thanks Mark and thanks for watching! I’ve been watching your videos for some time so yeah means a lot that you thought this was useful. I’m very interested in getting s lot out of the case with decent workflow and playability. The Bard definitely comes in as a small package that does a lot. I haven’t gor into using it for chords but I imagine that wouldn’t be it’s strength. Yeah, Pams would be killer for reset or even a clock divider as I kinda want to be able to send different reset to different things. I definitely like the free running feel that can happen melody wize without so the happy medium is a longer count for the reset in those spots. I’ve been on the fence about Pams for the longest time. I think I’ll use it for a whole bunch more than just reset. I want to get down with the Euclidian stuff (talk about flexibility) and now there’s Atom 2 which would be a must as a pairing. Having hands on control to 4 parameters all the time for Pams? Yes please right. It’s definitely in my dreams of a 7u case. Think the next thing on the horizon is the Jumble Henge to play with getting some cleaner mixes and panning and a lot of opportunities for spacial stuff. But if that doesn’t work out, a Pams might be the thing. Wonder if I could fit the atom sideways in the 1u bit? Haha.
@@turbotambourine I find it hard to use any module that requires menu diving so don’t use PAMs for much except clock, reset, and clock divisions. Euclidian rhythms are always good so definitely look into those if you can as they add a little something that usually sounds good. Keep the videos coming as i love the way we can all learn a little from each other. Sometimes something obvious to you isn’t to others so always something in most walkthroughs for people to learn!
@@markbooth thanks! I feel similar to that. I have a Baker (Peaks clone w cv in) and I don’t like to dig into the many functions it has too often. Good in a pinch though. So yeah, share that hesitation. The visual feedback on Pams pro especially for Euclidian appeals to me. I’d love something like a Constellation but wish there were some visual feedback to the structure. Used to play drums so I’m always on the fence about integrating new ways to do rhythm. I might really not like it haha. Do you have other Euclidian modules? Dot is one that looks awesome, very little menus and 3 channels. If I were keeping things menu free, might go that way. I find a lot of the joy in the patching and switches and not menus. And I’ll definitely keep making videos. It’s fun and an outlet to nerd out about the things I learn in the travels. Keep making yours too please! Love the format you have going!
@@turbotambourine The Shakmat Knight's Gallop is an interesting take on Euclidean, with some pattern types others don't have - I believe it's 2 channels. Also check out Tom Churchill's video using the Xaoc Devices Erfurt & Lipsk modules.
@@boydw1 Thanks for the pro tip! Yeah, I watched some videos on the Knight’s Gallop and it looks like lots of fun with similar ideas on playability. I love that the modes are varied by the way the two channels are related. I like that they integrated some adjusted Euclidian patterns. So dang smart! That’s a module I’d love to try out at a shop before likely picking it up. Shakmat is on it! The Four Bricks Rook also looks pretty awesome too for getting that tapping in of rhythms in the case with button sizes that make sense. I feel like they’ll all be in contention when I’m looking for the next rhythm generator for the case. It’s so hard to choose!
Does anyone know what to feed into the Harm input jack to jump from Harmony 1 to Harmony 2 to Harmony 3, etc? Can you feed it a gate? Or does to need a CV source of a specific voltage? Or an offset? Do specific voltages go to specific Harmony numbers? I can't find this info anywhere, including the manual. My goal is to have the BQ switch from harmony to harmony automatically - not using my hand to turn the knob. Thanks!
So fair! I feel like that would be cool info for Shakmat to include. A friend of mine got this info from them. Table 1: from CO to D#0 2: E0 to C1 3 : C#1 to A1 4: A#1 to F2 5: F#2 to D3 6: D#3 to B3 7: C4 to G4 To clarify, those note ranges can be represented in volts as well if you follow the 1v/oct scale. Also, make sure that if you’re using those values that you have the harmony knob set to full counter clockwise as I believe it will act as an offset. I what the logic was of breaking it down in this way and not just having 8 octaves. If it were broken in 8 octaves you’d be able to feed your pre quantized values into harmony and thus be able to create non-octave repeating scales, so ones that take modes into account. Want me to follow up with Shakmat more about this? You’re the second person who’s mentioned it. Also, do you already have one or are looking at one?
@@turbotambourine Thanks for the response. I've had a BQ for a while with expander, and I love it. What I'm trying to accomplish (using BQ or something else) is this: I want to use CV (gate/trigger/offset) to automatically transpose my melodic sequence musically in key. For example, let's say I've got a melodic CV sequence going in the key of "C" I want to use a gate/CV signal to automatically transpose the sequence up a 4th to "F" for 16 bars, then another gate/CV signal to automatically transpose it up again to "G" for 8 bars, then a final signal to automatically transpose back down to the original "C." I don't want to turn knobs manually, I want to program it to happen automatically (or perhaps randomly). I could perhaps use some adders, transposers and a sequential switch, but it gets complicated pretty fast. I thought BQ might be a better solution. Here's my idea: If I put my "C" quantization on Harmony 1, my "F" quantization of it on Harmony 2, and my "G" quantization of it on Harmony 3, then all I need is a single CV signal into the Harm input to move it along from harmony to harmony, essentially "transposing" the sequence. Less modules and less patching. Just so I have this straight: If I want the Harm input to jump from harmony 1 to 2, I need to feed it a pitch CV note that is somewhere between E0 to C1? What about just a standard CV offset value in volts? Can it just be a single note that bumps it up, or does that note have to sustain as long as I want the harmony? I emailed Shakmat, but they're probably at SuperBooth this week.
@@JayHughes-zv5qr I have another way at it but let me know if it doesn’t work musically for you. My knowledge in terms of theory is rather limited. By you mentioning you’d like to transpose your sequence up to the 4th, to me that would be just applying offset cv to that initial cv sequence in the time divisions you are hoping for. Is that what you’d like to do? You can use the transpose in on the quantizer and have that effect any or all of the channels and you can choose to do that via octave, pre-quantizer, or post-quantizer. Are you familiar with that setting and the menu? So you’d need 2 or 3 things to make that happen: 1) a cv sequencer that you can put in those voltages to offset the voltage up or down. 2) that sequencer needs to be running slower than the clock. That could be within the module (varigate has a div function) or with a clock divider. You just want to send that transposing sequence into the transpose in on the Bard. Then to activate the transposition, select the channel in question and press Edit to go into the Edit Menu. Then on the keyboard section bottom right quadrant you’ll see 3 options. The middle one is pre-quantizer. Press that one. Now any voltage above would transposing that whole cv sequence up. Now you just need to set up the cv values on that transpose sequence and you’re in business. You can make the length of that however long and epic as you want or it could be just the 3 transposition.
@@JayHughes-zv5qr If you want to utilize the minimal amount of modules though and you have the facilities to send just a gate pattern for transposition, you could use another channel of the Bard Quartet in arp mode. Set it to 0 octaves on the Edit Menu and 0 octaves on the Apr Menu, key in the notes that correspond with your transposition and then you can just send that channel a trigger to advance to the next note and then you want to send the out of that arp channel to the transpose TRSP in. Then have the channel receiving CV set up the same as my previous reply. Does this make some sense? Or does it work for your use? I love using it for transposing sequences or changing simple sequences over time. I was considering getting something like Ana 2 so I can also bring the upper limit of notes down or up while leaving the sequence in tact. I’m sure there might be a less involved module to do that also, still learning though. Might do a dive at some point to sleuth something out.
It’s a Roland R-05. A good buddy of mine gifted it to me for my synth stuff from a bin of things he wasn’t using anymore. It sounds great and has more features than I might possibly need. If I were buying new, I probably would have gone with something less expensive like a Zoom h1n.
Oh I know but just doing the best I can with limited space etc. There’s a wall right behind where my modular sits. At some point it would be a goal to have a moveable surface in the room so I could set up a better angle.
Y'know what? I take it back. I really appreciate the feedback. I'm a big believer in trying to be resourceful and trying not to get too caught up on the exact gear or waiting for other things to change to make something better. I like to see how far I can push things. I bet no one would think I was shooting on an a6000 for instance. Thanks for the nudge, I've swapped the phone for camera now so the shot of me will be not as low but with a pleasant blurry background and the top down shot will be all in focus but 4k. I like shallow depth of field I've been running for top down but most people probably don't notice. This will only effect the last patch in the upcoming video but likely be on everything else moving forward. I guess, it's the more standard approach anyway. I was kinda held up on this change because I didn't have a way to monitor the camera not facing me (fixed that) and I couldn't properly adjust colour on my iphone (fixed that with a conversion lut). Anyway, thanks again!
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The patience it takes to make videos like these is endless. Thank you for taking the time to explain your process with us. 💯
So happy to do it! The amount of possibilities that opened up after getting a quantizer kind of blew me away. Just made me really excited to share how to break that short 8 step loop.
I know, you could just get any basic synth with an arp on an iPad and be done in 2 minutes. This took thousands of dollars and hours of dedication. A commitment for sure.
Love the Bard videos you've been doing. I'm in the market and these are super helpful...Thank you!
You’re so welcome and thank you! That means a lot! Let me know if you have any questions etc. Happy to help and if there’s something I didn’t cover, I’m happy to do a part 3. There’s a couple extra uses for sure within this module and quantizers in general, I keep exploring.
love this video and love this module... May be I finally have to buy it :)
@hessence honestly I hesitated for the longest time due to the cost thinking I could get away with a quantizer that was a bit more bare bones. But the more I thought about it I realized how many opportunities for fun and variety were built right in. I still have more to explore with it but each step has been pretty great. Pretty quick to expand a patch using the harmony functions. Anyway, I could go on and on. Thanks again for watching!
Great video! Thanks for many melody ideas. 🎉
You’re so welcome! Glad you found it helpful!
what a jam, liked and subscribed 🙌
Thanks much! Glad you liked it and appreciate the sub!
Dangerous vibe! Love it!
Thank you so much! I love these machines!
@@turbotambourine what tells to the quantizer what order and rhythm you wanna hear of the notes? thx
@@Molluszk the order of the notes in is determined by the mode of the arpeggio selected. There are 5 ways the pitches are navigated: ascending, descending, pendulum (back and forth), spiral, and random. You can also select for the arpreggio to go through a range of 1-4 octaves. The rhythm in eurorack can be determined by so many things. You could have one rhythm changing the pitches and triggering an envelope or you could have those two things changing independently. So you could set those as 16th notes or as a specific euclidian rhythm or pattern from say steppy etc. You can also further complicate or vary those things by using a switch to change between rythms or use the trigger out when the pitch changed or the track and hold to only allow pitches to change sometimes o (or when the cv into the gate in is high). Does that make sense? Happy to answer any and all questions and get deep into it. Love this module and it’s very different approach to melody.
@@Molluszk but also, any quantizer is amazing by what it allows you to do with voltages going in. There’s so many ways to mix and mash those up.
fab, thank you so much!
You’re so welcome! I hope it was helpful!
yeah, great jam!!
Thanks so much! Glad you liked it!
Love this video!
33:33 mark has some incredible stuff happening.
Thanks Ray! Stoked you dig this!
Great intro to Eurorack melody and smaller rack space than a Sinfonion and I aways reset everything. It you ever get things wildly out from switching up sequence lengths just hit stop/start and you’re good to go again. I have a video on how to make PAMs your friend for such a task.
Thanks Mark and thanks for watching! I’ve been watching your videos for some time so yeah means a lot that you thought this was useful. I’m very interested in getting s lot out of the case with decent workflow and playability. The Bard definitely comes in as a small package that does a lot. I haven’t gor into using it for chords but I imagine that wouldn’t be it’s strength. Yeah, Pams would be killer for reset or even a clock divider as I kinda want to be able to send different reset to different things. I definitely like the free running feel that can happen melody wize without so the happy medium is a longer count for the reset in those spots. I’ve been on the fence about Pams for the longest time. I think I’ll use it for a whole bunch more than just reset. I want to get down with the Euclidian stuff (talk about flexibility) and now there’s Atom 2 which would be a must as a pairing. Having hands on control to 4 parameters all the time for Pams? Yes please right. It’s definitely in my dreams of a 7u case. Think the next thing on the horizon is the Jumble Henge to play with getting some cleaner mixes and panning and a lot of opportunities for spacial stuff. But if that doesn’t work out, a Pams might be the thing. Wonder if I could fit the atom sideways in the 1u bit? Haha.
@@turbotambourine I find it hard to use any module that requires menu diving so don’t use PAMs for much except clock, reset, and clock divisions. Euclidian rhythms are always good so definitely look into those if you can as they add a little something that usually sounds good.
Keep the videos coming as i love the way we can all learn a little from each other. Sometimes something obvious to you isn’t to others so always something in most walkthroughs for people to learn!
@@markbooth thanks! I feel similar to that. I have a Baker (Peaks clone w cv in) and I don’t like to dig into the many functions it has too often. Good in a pinch though. So yeah, share that hesitation. The visual feedback on Pams pro especially for Euclidian appeals to me. I’d love something like a Constellation but wish there were some visual feedback to the structure. Used to play drums so I’m always on the fence about integrating new ways to do rhythm. I might really not like it haha. Do you have other Euclidian modules? Dot is one that looks awesome, very little menus and 3 channels. If I were keeping things menu free, might go that way. I find a lot of the joy in the patching and switches and not menus. And I’ll definitely keep making videos. It’s fun and an outlet to nerd out about the things I learn in the travels. Keep making yours too please! Love the format you have going!
@@turbotambourine The Shakmat Knight's Gallop is an interesting take on Euclidean, with some pattern types others don't have - I believe it's 2 channels.
Also check out Tom Churchill's video using the Xaoc Devices Erfurt & Lipsk modules.
@@boydw1 Thanks for the pro tip! Yeah, I watched some videos on the Knight’s Gallop and it looks like lots of fun with similar ideas on playability. I love that the modes are varied by the way the two channels are related. I like that they integrated some adjusted Euclidian patterns. So dang smart! That’s a module I’d love to try out at a shop before likely picking it up. Shakmat is on it! The Four Bricks Rook also looks pretty awesome too for getting that tapping in of rhythms in the case with button sizes that make sense. I feel like they’ll all be in contention when I’m looking for the next rhythm generator for the case. It’s so hard to choose!
Does anyone know what to feed into the Harm input jack to jump from Harmony 1 to Harmony 2 to Harmony 3, etc? Can you feed it a gate? Or does to need a CV source of a specific voltage? Or an offset? Do specific voltages go to specific Harmony numbers? I can't find this info anywhere, including the manual. My goal is to have the BQ switch from harmony to harmony automatically - not using my hand to turn the knob. Thanks!
So fair! I feel like that would be cool info for Shakmat to include. A friend of mine got this info from them.
Table 1: from CO to D#0
2: E0 to C1
3 : C#1 to A1
4: A#1 to F2
5: F#2 to D3
6: D#3 to B3
7: C4 to G4
To clarify, those note ranges can be represented in volts as well if you follow the 1v/oct scale. Also, make sure that if you’re using those values that you have the harmony knob set to full counter clockwise as I believe it will act as an offset. I what the logic was of breaking it down in this way and not just having 8 octaves. If it were broken in 8 octaves you’d be able to feed your pre quantized values into harmony and thus be able to create non-octave repeating scales, so ones that take modes into account. Want me to follow up with Shakmat more about this? You’re the second person who’s mentioned it. Also, do you already have one or are looking at one?
Feel free to DM me on insta if that’s an easier place to have back and forth and figure this out for ya!
@@turbotambourine Thanks for the response. I've had a BQ for a while with expander, and I love it.
What I'm trying to accomplish (using BQ or something else) is this: I want to use CV (gate/trigger/offset) to automatically transpose my melodic sequence musically in key. For example, let's say I've got a melodic CV sequence going in the key of "C" I want to use a gate/CV signal to automatically transpose the sequence up a 4th to "F" for 16 bars, then another gate/CV signal to automatically transpose it up again to "G" for 8 bars, then a final signal to automatically transpose back down to the original "C." I don't want to turn knobs manually, I want to program it to happen automatically (or perhaps randomly).
I could perhaps use some adders, transposers and a sequential switch, but it gets complicated pretty fast. I thought BQ might be a better solution. Here's my idea: If I put my "C" quantization on Harmony 1, my "F" quantization of it on Harmony 2, and my "G" quantization of it on Harmony 3, then all I need is a single CV signal into the Harm input to move it along from harmony to harmony, essentially "transposing" the sequence. Less modules and less patching.
Just so I have this straight: If I want the Harm input to jump from harmony 1 to 2, I need to feed it a pitch CV note that is somewhere between E0 to C1? What about just a standard CV offset value in volts? Can it just be a single note that bumps it up, or does that note have to sustain as long as I want the harmony?
I emailed Shakmat, but they're probably at SuperBooth this week.
@@JayHughes-zv5qr I have another way at it but let me know if it doesn’t work musically for you. My knowledge in terms of theory is rather limited. By you mentioning you’d like to transpose your sequence up to the 4th, to me that would be just applying offset cv to that initial cv sequence in the time divisions you are hoping for. Is that what you’d like to do?
You can use the transpose in on the quantizer and have that effect any or all of the channels and you can choose to do that via octave, pre-quantizer, or post-quantizer. Are you familiar with that setting and the menu?
So you’d need 2 or 3 things to make that happen:
1) a cv sequencer that you can put in those voltages to offset the voltage up or down.
2) that sequencer needs to be running slower than the clock. That could be within the module (varigate has a div function) or with a clock divider.
You just want to send that transposing sequence into the transpose in on the Bard. Then to activate the transposition, select the channel in question and press Edit to go into the Edit Menu. Then on the keyboard section bottom right quadrant you’ll see 3 options. The middle one is pre-quantizer. Press that one. Now any voltage above would transposing that whole cv sequence up. Now you just need to set up the cv values on that transpose sequence and you’re in business. You can make the length of that however long and epic as you want or it could be just the 3 transposition.
@@JayHughes-zv5qr If you want to utilize the minimal amount of modules though and you have the facilities to send just a gate pattern for transposition, you could use another channel of the Bard Quartet in arp mode. Set it to 0 octaves on the Edit Menu and 0 octaves on the Apr Menu, key in the notes that correspond with your transposition and then you can just send that channel a trigger to advance to the next note and then you want to send the out of that arp channel to the transpose TRSP in. Then have the channel receiving CV set up the same as my previous reply. Does this make some sense? Or does it work for your use?
I love using it for transposing sequences or changing simple sequences over time. I was considering getting something like Ana 2 so I can also bring the upper limit of notes down or up while leaving the sequence in tact. I’m sure there might be a less involved module to do that also, still learning though. Might do a dive at some point to sleuth something out.
What is the digital (recorder/player) that you have external to the Eurorack?
It’s a Roland R-05. A good buddy of mine gifted it to me for my synth stuff from a bin of things he wasn’t using anymore. It sounds great and has more features than I might possibly need. If I were buying new, I probably would have gone with something less expensive like a Zoom h1n.
Hey, How can people reach you out? There is no email address or anything available. How I can reach you ? thx, David
Haha, you can find me on insta and send a dm over there if you like!
@@turbotambourine i did thx
That upshot view is a little unflattering
Oh I know but just doing the best I can with limited space etc. There’s a wall right behind where my modular sits. At some point it would be a goal to have a moveable surface in the room so I could set up a better angle.
Y'know what? I take it back. I really appreciate the feedback. I'm a big believer in trying to be resourceful and trying not to get too caught up on the exact gear or waiting for other things to change to make something better. I like to see how far I can push things. I bet no one would think I was shooting on an a6000 for instance. Thanks for the nudge, I've swapped the phone for camera now so the shot of me will be not as low but with a pleasant blurry background and the top down shot will be all in focus but 4k. I like shallow depth of field I've been running for top down but most people probably don't notice. This will only effect the last patch in the upcoming video but likely be on everything else moving forward. I guess, it's the more standard approach anyway. I was kinda held up on this change because I didn't have a way to monitor the camera not facing me (fixed that) and I couldn't properly adjust colour on my iphone (fixed that with a conversion lut). Anyway, thanks again!