1:21 I'm sorry in if this correction comes off as annoying and/or nerdy, but the Uintah 2-6-6-2s were rebuilt as tender engines when they were brought into service on the Sumpter and their tender look _exactly_ like that.
Sierra Railroad also has a 2-6-6-2, and Mantua made one of these with the Sierra Railroad name on it. However, the Sierra Railroad 2-6-6-2 looks a lot different than this engine. I have been to Jamestown, California where Sierra Railroad is. My wife, son, and I road the #3 Rodgers 4-6-0 train while there. At the time I was there they had the 2-6-6-2 torn apart to restore it.
The Western Maryland M1 and M1a class 2-6-6-2s (951-959) were built in 1909-1911 to operate on the grades of the Blue Ridge and the new Connellsville Extension, but as Paul said, they were found to be under-powered and slippery. In 1927 they were converted to 0-6-6-0 hump and yard engines where they found their niche, some surviving into the late 40s. I've often contemplated kitbashing the 955 as an 0-6-6-0 using the Mantua chassis but never have. The WM also rostered the L1, L1a, and L2 class 2-8-8-2 locomotives (900-925) to supersede the M class locos on the Blue Ridge and up to Connellsville. Later in life they were a fixture on the B&O "Sheepskin" line metallurgical-coal trains originating in the Fairmount area. They were generally well regarded by their crews and survived into the early 1950s. Articulateds were not used down to Elkins and beyond. I did read of an experiment with one of the 1200s (4-6-6-4) on Blackwater that was not successful. I've read enginemen both praising and criticizing the 1200s. WM's "modern" passenger locos were K1 and K2 class 4-6-2 Pacifics. The K1s were light engines and wrapped up their careers pulling locals down in the WV coalfields. The K2s were built for the WM's leg of the short-lived limited express trains between Baltimore and Chicago over the Connellsville Extension and are the loco we most associate with the WM's passenger service.
I happened upon your video this morning while looking for a mallet 2-6-6-2 that ran on the Western Maryland railroad. My paternal Grandfather worked in the Hagerstown Roundhouse on these locomotives during WW1. I have a Roundhouse crew picture of all the men sitting on locomotive #914. I want to find a representative model and duplicate that locomotive. I'm not particular about the Guage. If you have any ideas I'd like to hear them. Thanks
Honestly, I say all these models of steam engines that aren’t prototypical can just be rebuilt to the best of our abilities. I have done this before. I have a mehano usra 4-6-2 that I modified a little to look like a WM k2.
Technically the WM never even operated the 2-6-6-2 at the time of the C&O 1309, Western Maryland would have used Challenger type 4-6-6-4's while C&O would be operating the 1309 and other Allegheny type locomotives. From what I've read, WM didn't care for the earlier 2-6-6-2 or the 4-6-6-4, because they had a tendency to wheel slip on the tight turns and grades of their rails. Essentially the railroad bought both of these articulated type locos to pull bigger trains without pusher trains to assist, but the articulated locos needed pusher locos anyways because of the wheel slip issues. For this reason the WM mostly utilized 2-8-0's and 2-10-0's for freight service and 2-6-4's for their limited passenger service. If someone really wanted to nit-pick the WMSRR, they should be complaining that 734 is not an original WM 2-8-0 and that using a 2-8-0 is also incorrect for WM passenger service! XD Me personally, I just enjoyed riding the 734 while I was a kid and I'm glad to see WMSRR restore the 1309 to operation, regardless of whether either are truly accurate to the railroad. As far as I know WM is the only scenic railroad operating mainline steam locomotives in Maryland, so there aren't other options. Considering WMSRR forked over considerable money to restore the 1309 and stuck with the restoration when it became obvious that 1309 need more work than 734, I have no issue with them painting it in WMSRR colors. Frankly had WM purchased 1309 from C&O back in the day, the WM would have repainted it in their colors anyways. I'll just be happy to see an awesome locomotive return to life.
I believe the 734 came from one of the Iron Range railroads and was a dead ringer for the WM's H7 class Consolidations. The WM Scenic engine that always makes me chuckle is the GP30 they dress up in WM paint. Pleeeeease take it back to its original B&O sunrise paint. When I was last in my old home town the WM Scenic was still new and I recall them running an ALCo RSD5 (1689?) in the old WM Fireball scheme. It wasn't "right" but I thought she was a handsome "what-if" old girl. There is no use tossing out the good on expectations of the perfect. In any paint the 1309 will be awesome thundering through the Narrows. I wish I could get back there to see it in person.
I saw a modified Mantua 2-6-6-2 that had a Mikado shell. It looks closer to 1309 than this. Also yeah we need more plug drawbars on models. ruclips.net/video/eOVnYMDYqUM/видео.html
1:21 I'm sorry in if this correction comes off as annoying and/or nerdy, but the Uintah 2-6-6-2s were rebuilt as tender engines when they were brought into service on the Sumpter and their tender look _exactly_ like that.
Sierra Railroad also has a 2-6-6-2, and Mantua made one of these with the Sierra Railroad name on it. However, the Sierra Railroad 2-6-6-2 looks a lot different than this engine. I have been to Jamestown, California where Sierra Railroad is. My wife, son, and I road the #3 Rodgers 4-6-0 train while there. At the time I was there they had the 2-6-6-2 torn apart to restore it.
Great video and review, like you said, might not be fully prototypical, but it’s still a nice model to have.
Thanks! It is an underrated articulated
The Western Maryland M1 and M1a class 2-6-6-2s (951-959) were built in 1909-1911 to operate on the grades of the Blue Ridge and the new Connellsville Extension, but as Paul said, they were found to be under-powered and slippery. In 1927 they were converted to 0-6-6-0 hump and yard engines where they found their niche, some surviving into the late 40s. I've often contemplated kitbashing the 955 as an 0-6-6-0 using the Mantua chassis but never have. The WM also rostered the L1, L1a, and L2 class 2-8-8-2 locomotives (900-925) to supersede the M class locos on the Blue Ridge and up to Connellsville. Later in life they were a fixture on the B&O "Sheepskin" line metallurgical-coal trains originating in the Fairmount area. They were generally well regarded by their crews and survived into the early 1950s. Articulateds were not used down to Elkins and beyond. I did read of an experiment with one of the 1200s (4-6-6-4) on Blackwater that was not successful. I've read enginemen both praising and criticizing the 1200s. WM's "modern" passenger locos were K1 and K2 class 4-6-2 Pacifics. The K1s were light engines and wrapped up their careers pulling locals down in the WV coalfields. The K2s were built for the WM's leg of the short-lived limited express trains between Baltimore and Chicago over the Connellsville Extension and are the loco we most associate with the WM's passenger service.
That Engine would Look great Pulling Freight and Passenger Either way It Looks Great.
I happened upon your video this morning while looking for a mallet 2-6-6-2 that ran on the Western Maryland railroad. My paternal Grandfather worked in the Hagerstown Roundhouse on these locomotives during WW1. I have a Roundhouse crew picture of all the men sitting on locomotive #914. I want to find a representative model and duplicate that locomotive. I'm not particular about the Guage. If you have any ideas I'd like to hear them.
Thanks
Honestly, I say all these models of steam engines that aren’t prototypical can just be rebuilt to the best of our abilities. I have done this before. I have a mehano usra 4-6-2 that I modified a little to look like a WM k2.
1309 ran from 1949-1956 and the last domestically built Baldwin steam locomotive.
Ironically 1309 ran for the first time after restoation un announced just hours after this was uploaded. What are the odds?
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Technically the WM never even operated the 2-6-6-2 at the time of the C&O 1309, Western Maryland would have used Challenger type 4-6-6-4's while C&O would be operating the 1309 and other Allegheny type locomotives. From what I've read, WM didn't care for the earlier 2-6-6-2 or the 4-6-6-4, because they had a tendency to wheel slip on the tight turns and grades of their rails. Essentially the railroad bought both of these articulated type locos to pull bigger trains without pusher trains to assist, but the articulated locos needed pusher locos anyways because of the wheel slip issues. For this reason the WM mostly utilized 2-8-0's and 2-10-0's for freight service and 2-6-4's for their limited passenger service. If someone really wanted to nit-pick the WMSRR, they should be complaining that 734 is not an original WM 2-8-0 and that using a 2-8-0 is also incorrect for WM passenger service! XD
Me personally, I just enjoyed riding the 734 while I was a kid and I'm glad to see WMSRR restore the 1309 to operation, regardless of whether either are truly accurate to the railroad. As far as I know WM is the only scenic railroad operating mainline steam locomotives in Maryland, so there aren't other options. Considering WMSRR forked over considerable money to restore the 1309 and stuck with the restoration when it became obvious that 1309 need more work than 734, I have no issue with them painting it in WMSRR colors. Frankly had WM purchased 1309 from C&O back in the day, the WM would have repainted it in their colors anyways. I'll just be happy to see an awesome locomotive return to life.
I believe the 734 came from one of the Iron Range railroads and was a dead ringer for the WM's H7 class Consolidations. The WM Scenic engine that always makes me chuckle is the GP30 they dress up in WM paint. Pleeeeease take it back to its original B&O sunrise paint. When I was last in my old home town the WM Scenic was still new and I recall them running an ALCo RSD5 (1689?) in the old WM Fireball scheme. It wasn't "right" but I thought she was a handsome "what-if" old girl. There is no use tossing out the good on expectations of the perfect. In any paint the 1309 will be awesome thundering through the Narrows. I wish I could get back there to see it in person.
I Would Like to Get An Engine like That For Ho And N Scale.
I saw a modified Mantua 2-6-6-2 that had a Mikado shell. It looks closer to 1309 than this.
Also yeah we need more plug drawbars on models.
ruclips.net/video/eOVnYMDYqUM/видео.html