No way… that’s me in the AGS. Sorry to do you like that lmao. I do play on Xbox on a controller though, and I think I recorded the clip from my pov. Although the feature helps a ton with tracking aircraft while on controller, it is pretty nasty that you can do it through rocks and buildings, especially if you hook up a mouse and keyboard. Great video, I think that it’s a feature not many know about that needs some adjustments. I still can’t believe I just happened to stumble on this video, and sorry again about killing you that way lol.
It's all good. No need to apologize for killing me. Gaijin kills me with their terrible hitboxes way more than any single player has. I am also nasty in a Helicopter if people don't shoot at me (: You should definitely post it and I'll link it in the video description!
@@BruceLeeroy94 Hey what's up man, yea I'm on PS and I've tried to explain this so many times. It's not an unlimited range thing there are limitations and differences between Battles like Squadron battles the range is less than Realistic battles, Sim it does not work at all, it's just mk1. and radar. It will track like you said but when it comes to the shot the player still needs to lead, in RB at least. It not a mess up, it's because the control ergonomics are wonky compared to PC controls. I have a video of me shooting shit down. It may seem like auto aim but trust me I've watched other console player not be able to hit a pe-8 @ tree level even with this, I've sat and really practiced anti air methodically, and I'm proud of my Flarak Pz.1 K/D, and I wear my digital anti air badges with pride lol.
@@BruceLeeroy94 Im sorry I don't wanna keep it going but, I just want to point out that it's not console vs PC , it's everyone vs Everyone so there is no bias in which teams has more or less PC to console players, so the mechanics aggravating and meditating factors leave it an equally spread out situation ya feel me. And this has been happening not like some new phenomenon, y'all have been being shot the f'duck down just like any other mug that was flying around in any other battle, so the video informative hopefully people can still take accountability for their getting themselves shot down. End of the day, hope to see you out there fam, GLHF o7
@Finnish ski troop Then plug in a fucking kbm and play on an even footing without this bullshit. Easy as. There's no excuse for cheating, which this blatantly is, as it gives a clearly massive advantage.
@@Debilitator47 not only do they get those, but get plus to line of sight. Me and friends tested it and it was crazy. They have better view than someone with ultra low graphics. Even shows red tags farther. Like almost a 10 tank length advantage. It's completely BS I play PC with max settings, cause I want it to look good.
@suomalainen sotilas metsässä BS, it's like shooting fish in a barrel for anyone that has some skill. This is just the tip of the advantages consoles get.
I'm not only angry that this tracks targets so you can make finer adjustments... I'm absolutely pissed off that it can track vehicles through walls. What a joke. Thanks for highlighting this. Very informative video.
No problem! I do think players with a controller need some assistance, but the fact this assistance can be used with a mouse is a bit too much. Not sure how Gaijin would fix something like this since they don't want to remove the ability to use a mouse on console, and they don't want console players who use a controller to lose their only reliable way of shooting down aircraft because trying to aim at a moving target with a joystick is not easy at all. I definitely think the lock on should break once visual contact has been lost, but the target tracking is something I'm not sure should stay or go. I don't want to be the guy to ruin other people's way of enjoying the game or competing with people who have better hardware, but I also don't want people to abuse stuff like this either.
@@BruceLeeroy94 Gaijin have a setting that doesn't render vehicles if game thinks they're behind a wall and that you shouldn't see it (this is why tanks very often disappear in sight, especially when behind some chunks on certain maps. Considering how Gaijin "fix" things and how recently they promised to make a separate rocket launch in sim (when rockets go 1 by 1 and not two at once), but there are still MANY vehicles in the game that didn't get it and players have to manually suggest fix on forums, this is just another handicapped mechanic we must live with
This combination lock on track has been in the game for ages, has it not. I remember back in 2018 seeing this mechanic. I have never actually used it, but if it can track through walls and rocks that is scummy to say the least.
@@ShiningDarknes it will place a box around them as well, and spotted targets is pretty misleading seeing how sometimes it will lock on through buildings and mountains with no line of sight.
Targets still get spotted in RB tanks. I'm not sure if tanks can be spotted, but aircraft can definitely still be spotted. If you ever see the red arrows on the edge of your screen, then it's a spotted aircraft. It seems like it works randomly, but it's definitely there.
@Austin Delorme Honestly, I think its internet connection issues for some. I have a 4ms Ping to Frankfurt and usually 6-8ms ingame. I get Ghostshells maxbe once a year. Like literally in the 4 years I've played this, I had maybe 6 Ghostshells. But when I played at my friends house once, he has bad Internet, I got 2 Ghostshells in one day. So probably really some synch/server issues
That’s wild. Honestly when I saw the first video I was right with you on the irritation. It’s super cool you made a follow up video explaining what you found
The hacker video was gaining traction really fast, so I had to make sure I set the record straight before it got out of hand now that I knew what was going on.
Yes it is true that on consoles you can track planes or helis. But it is very annoying tho ... I must admit that I was using it when I was only starting with wt. But I couldn't get the grip with my controller (but don't get me wrong I've been playing cod on controller and I can compete with mous players- not elite or pros but hey it should be fun). And then I switched to mouse and keyboard and every time I pressed the mouse button (range finder) it started to track the plans(if there were some) and that killed me coupe of times and I turned it off. I know that I could change the button functions but I didn't. In conclusion I think that if your playing on controller (it is pressing one of the analogue sticks and it is very annoying as I said earlier. And if you're using keyboard than you don't really need it🤷. And remember it is only my opinion (it is 2022 after all😂✌️)
I play on pc and I remember binding a key to c that allowed ur turret to lock onto a target quickly in arcade. Does nothing in realistic, but useful in arcade to quickly get sights on target then just let go of C to start precisely shooting spots on the enemy.
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I mean if you wanna see someone be real here. Chances are that person isn't the actual person that made that shot. The chances of them finding this video are slim to none. If you did however want to ramp up traction you could easily set this up on one of your videos to increase the number of comments and abuse the algo. You can then make your video just over 10 minutes long same with the other one he did on this subject. Tadah you just slightly abused the borderline youtube community.
well, let's just not be negative here. It's actually up to the one who posted this video. He apologized because he made a mistake, that's all that matters. But If your choice is to think about consipary stuff, I'll leave that up to you.
ive used this locking-on feature on console and its kind of over powered , e.g you can lock on to an aircraft in a missile aa without radar and the aircraft wont receive a radar warning. The locking on pretty much guides your missiles to the enemy.
@@Lucky_MiTo. nah, not for a few years now. This is even nastier on proxy-fused gun AA. A pc player has to actually aim, a console player just presses a button and pulls right trigger and laser beams you out of the sky.
In arcade it works the same way. Guiding ATGMs into enemy jets is very easy with this method, I did it regularly with the begleitpanzer. But having this in realistic battles is just unfair, even when the enemy names just pop up, because names shouldn't be in realistic at all.
Yeah, they tried adding this feature to PC as well a while back, it was absolute pandemonium. You literally could not play aircraft in ground RB without getting deleted by SPAA through trees.
As a console player I had no clue about any of this. I'm aware of tracking an air target with the little grey box and being able to always see the box when it's in view but I had no clue you could lock on like this
Both? Both is good. An obvious cheat feature is an obvious cheat. Gaijin shouldn't have put it in the game, and players, upon learning of it, should have the self awareness to realize it's a blatant hack. War thunder should have come with a warning on console: 'Requires keyboard and mouse to play.' Then everyone's on an even footing, this braindead fuckery wouldn't have been seen as necessary to overcome the limits of console gamepads, this video would never have existed. Since learning of this I've brutalized every console player I see. I'll make this shit as unenjoyable and toxic as I can. Fuck hackers, and fuck gaijin for all of this.
@@Debilitator47 Bro,i play console and pc.and i can tell you its hard on console bc you have to use joysticks so i think its fair.and yeah it gives console players sonewhat of a advantage,you shouldnt just start hurting console players bc of that.if you have to,blame gajin Plus most of my friends who play console dont notice
@@oluwatosinopawoye5695 Bluntly speaking, if they're going to put this in game, they should just put aimbots in for everyone and call it a day. This is garbage. Everyone plays on an even footing. If a gamepad gives a disadvantage, then require keyboard and mouse. I'm fucking done with excuse making. Gaijin are a shit dev who never saw a bad idea they wouldn't implement. Honestly this one caught me by surprise though, even for them, and deepens my desire to see a competent game dev make a competing product.
@@oluwatosinopawoye5695 its okay when them using console only.. but what make me disagreed is that console also can use mouse at the same time . that shit ") (auto lock target + mouse = OP)
There is also a thing very similar to that but in air battles. You can lock onto a plane or ground aa or artillery and not only it keeps track of the target, but it also locks your plane too, basically moves your entire plane towards the target, just like a missile. So you basically don't even need to move the plane yourself, you can just hold L2 and only move the crossair to shoot at your target. I really thought people already knew about this, since i've never played on PC before
As a console CC WT creator, in a nutshell of this vid, the auto tracking system need some restrictions so it shouldn't auto track through walls & mountains & such which is hopefully that's the case here & should happen ASAP
I play on ps4 and have you ever tried playing air sim on a controller its damn near impossible so i use keyboard and mouse. I think the tracking is fine because pc isn't as limited a consoles so consoles have a slight advantage over pc it fine with me
@@GWMsharpshot21 using controller aimassist with mouse and keyboard should be considered cheating, period. No debate about using mouse and keyboard on ps4 or xbox.
I used to play on console with a controller, played it like that for a year and a half. I had no issues aiming, or tracking moving targets, and I didnt even know this existed till now. Yeah sometimes the joysticks would get me killed, but it was due the driving mechanics, not the aiming. I really dont think this should be in realistic at all, full stop.
I'm just amazed you rendered to him, I've lost count of how many times I've died because someones entire tanks didn't render because a few branches covered them. Or my personal favorite, the missile carrier with the launcher on the roof, hiding behind a hill with the launcher sticking above the hill, you'll be looking right at them, and no launcher is visible, instead, you only know someone is there when the missile actually launches.
On PC you used to be able to use headphones with maxed enemy engine noise and get an approximation, but this is a whole new level. Besides, last major sound change they heavily nerfed that ability to pinpoint sounds.
As a console player for a good couple of years, I never knew such feature existed. I do use that lock-on feature on aircrafts as like a highlight and way to keep an eye on an aircraft when it's far away or behind cover whilst I concentrate on ground enemies. But I never knew there was a way to track enemies like how it is with radar based AAs. I don't want to implement such feature into my keybinds to keep it fair for everyone else and my custom keybinds are something that has changed throughout my time in War Thunder and will be keeping them the same. Besides, it's practically full due to the limited buttons on the controller unless I wanna do some crazy button combos. Great video anyways and I hope it can educate others.
Never really thought of it as radar but now it makes sense this lock on feature saves my ass all the time, from letting me know where the enemy planes are in clouds, to helping my little M3 track targets that are far beyond my range and letting me set up a good hit on their next approach
Also on console when you lock on to an aircraft, you can call out to your team using the attack the enemy command. It will call out the aircraft with its name
I remember being able to lock on with pc. I think there was a check box option that enabled lock on when holding down the right mouse button. It even gave an aiming circle for leading targets when using certain mounted mg's. It helped me get some kills when I first started playing. I think it was removed from pc after an update, but I may have changed settings getting rid of it because I havent seen it in a long time. Very interesting information and great break down.
Wow, I happened to notice players that tend to get surprising shots on me had the console icon. I had assumed that in some way it's easier to work the sticks (like in air battles) than dragging a mouse around. It turns out I was right, but for the wrong reason.
Having played console war thunder for years, and now on PC for a few weeks. PC plays much better/easier. Console sticks make a bit smoother "mouse aim" flying yeah, slightly. But actually aiming is more difficult. And most of all, try playing air RB without "C" key.
Just because its a feature given to console players doesnt mean it isnt cheating, if it were on PC it would 100% be cheating, there is no logical answer why this should be a tool they are allowed to use
I play in PS5 w a mouse and keyboard, but have that setting turned off, in my eyes it kinda messes the shot up sometimes because the lock of feature is annoying especially in ships. But if your aiming at a tank and accidentally locked onto a heli and press button on accident you look straight at the aircraft and the tank gets free shot on you. So it’s a good and bad feature
Long time watcher, first time commenter. Stand up dude you are my friend. Thank you for your amazing content and mad props to your skills in the rotor craft. You are forever my helicopter Jesus.
A thing that is interesting but many people don't know is that there is a setting that let's you join games that are already running for like a minute or something like that, so that means that spawning late isn't really an indicator if the player is on console or PC. A Way to know if it's a console player is just looking at their Username, if it's a console player yo can see a "controller icon" in front of it.
this explains so much, some console payers I've met insta kill me when I come out of cover and I always thought it was just 3rd person peeking or something.
I’m an Xbox player and it’s outright op. Works a dream with atgm’s against choppers. I use a mouse and keyboard and still lets me lock.. I get it for controller but this is outright unfair
@@deezboyeed6764 literally ive played war thunder for 4 years now and Ive always had that and didnt think it was aim bot or anything how is it aim bot if you can still miss your shot
Теперь понятно, от куда у консольщиков такой скилл. Если мой вертолёт сбивали обычным обпс, то чаще всего это был консольщик, сквозь препятствия тоже часто обнаруживали. Я сразу решил, что им не отключили аркадный захват авиации, но они не сознавались :) хорошее видео.
I'm a console player we can target and lock onto aircraft in any battle except sim And we can do this while using mouse and keyboard and because I'm on next generation consoles I do not spawn late
There is a setting where you can join a battle from the start or when it has started. This is for console and pc version!!! It's been in the setting since day one! If you ever find a game where there are more people on one side than the other this is when people can join into the game minutes after its started to even the teams
4:31 I think I've got it figured out. The AGS player must be spamming his button to lock on to your heli that he can hear behind the mountain, and once you fire your rocket at the huey, it allows him to lock you. You can see he gets the lock-on a couple milliseconds before your smoke trail is visible. There must be some kind of code that gives you a "soft spotted" status when you fire towards an enemy player. Or maybe if they see your projectile?
As far as I remember, there's a time when in PC you can lock on aircraft in ground RB. It was a feature added to help SPAA, but It was removed because people find it annoying when they try to zoom in, they instead lock on and tracking aircraft in the air.
Well no. You only can track the aircraft when you binded the key for it. Locking the target was removed so not any player on PC with that keybind could lock the aircraft. Its very simple. but tbh it was a good time. Silly me thought that with the removal of this locking method it would also mean that on console its not possible anymore, so its a good thing i quitted wt some months ago.
I always check statistics before I accuse anyone of cheating. The most reliable way to tell if someone is cheating in War Thunder is how consistently well they are playing overall. If they are like 5 to 1 plus KDR, 60%-70% plus W/L in the majority of their most played vehicles, I feel it is safe to say they are cheating. Average statistics are not eye popping with their egregiousness and one must also take into account that some vehicles were busted upon release or were buffed to OP status so many people stat padded with said vehicles during their times of over-performance, but those instances in which a player is a smurf and only plays the best of the best vehicles and has insane KDR is very suspicious indeed. I checked this players stats and he is a legitimate player, but I can see where your assumption came from considering the AGS is a commonly used vehicle for cheaters. There are plenty of trends you can see with cheater accounts in their statistics spread and their vehicle choices which are tell-tale red flags. Just look at more stat cards and you will see who is really cheating. The only nail in the coffin way to determine someone is actually cheating is by viewing their gameplay in a replay and watch for signs of them staring at people through walls and bushes and trees as well as knowing exact ranges of targets and seeing things which normally could not be heard due to distance as well as rage hacking which is commonly seen as shooting through multiple targets through trees and bushes over multiple battles and perhaps trying to hide it as well by staring through walls and bushes and trees but hesitating to shoot at targets they would have a shot on despite not directly seeing them. There is also the reaction time red flag which is easier to spot in live gameplay, especially at higher monitor refresh rates.
As a console player I don't think we should have these tools, I feel like it makes the point of ground radar useless, and that's depressing, it means it takes no actual skill to shoot down a plane
That's so weird, I've played on console for 3ish years now and never realized you could have the gun follow an aircraft that way Ive used the target lock for sure, but i distinctly remember turning off the tracking camera (at least for aircraft controls, where you start with it as a keybind by default) since it was disorienting in combination with my other aircraft keybinds I dont think its a default setting for ground controls because i never remember having to turn it off. Seeing as i'm quite capable of shooting things down without it, and open keybinds on a controller are hard to come by, i have no plans of using it anyway
A small tip here, in naval realistic on PC(That like 3 people play including me) you can do the same. You spam "select target" and you can see enemies through hills even if any other vessel has no visual range on them. And your rangefinder works through hills/mountains so you can get a fire solution quickly. It's a leftover system as you used to be able to do it in realistic battles on PC as well for some time but it got removed for obvious reasons.
This is in fact a feature on console to help with locking planes and helicopters, I’ve done this countless times with the M24 and gotten quite a few kills. A little while ago, the feature got removed but recently got added back
I had no idea that pc players didn’t have access to this feature. Which doesn’t seem very fair. I’ve always used it to hold my lead steady on aircraft when I’m playing something like the M42 or Ostwind. Although it’s extremely overpowered with something like the M163 or the Shilka, it doesn’t really help with something like the Sergeant York. But if PC players can’t do it, I don’t think we should be able to do it either.
First off, I only have one minor correction, "now" console players can use a mouse? That's been a thing from almost day one. Almost. Hell, I have a Frankenstein control setup where I planned on using a mouse and a controller in aircraft battles from almost 3 years ago (didn't work out for obvious reasons). At least I can proudly say I don't use this feature and have gotten a few Aircraft kills from a tank.
I mean, that is where I am confused about Gaijin, when a console player has a mouse and keyboard, that aim assist should temporary go away, when the player then plugs the controller back in, then they can use the aim assist again, it's not too difficult to have implemented, as many other games has this option by default... Let's take GTA for instance in this scenario, I used to play on console back in the day, had XBOX 360, I also used both controller, mouse and keyboard, whenever I swapped to mouse and keyboard, the aim assist was taken away.... but when I took the controller instead, the aim assist came back, that was a default setting that could not be turned off... Now, if Gaijin really cares about the community, they would do this exact same thing... In which I doubt they will
The thing that bugs me about him shooting your tail off is that there was no visible travel time for his shell. At the exact moment you hear him fire, your tail gets shot off. As well it seemed to have a totally flat trajectory.
APFDS fires at an absolutely insane velocity. The video makes sense. All/most APFDS has a velocity of 1000m/s+. So the shell would have taken WELL under a second to make contact with the heli
this is why I hate going against console players. Yeah they are at a technical disadvantage, and it's a "skill issue" for a pc player for calling them out, but they legitimately do have literal actual aimbot built into the console version of the game, and this is a great example to how it was used to its best ability. I do think however that if they did not have this feature, playing on console would be next to impossible though. I just think it was a major mistake for gayjin to allow console players and pc players to be in the same match. I would have much preferred a way to transfer content between platforms over that.
i got called a hacker once when i was playing as a gepard in sinai when a heli was hiding behind the hills and i knew exactly where and when he would peak, kinda stupid to be honest
As a console player.. I confirm you're correct, sir. Been using target tracking with a M&Kb since the release of Tanks on WT... years ago. Works with ships, too...
I had heard of this feature but it's interesting to see how it works. I've definitely been on the receiving end of it a few times! I remember once when I was diving into the battlefield at a good rate of speed just to get one shot by a bofors before I could even get a shot off. I was still quite high up when I got hit too. I thought they must have been hacking to make such an insane shot, but then I remembered this mechanic, checked their tag, and sure enough, it was a console player lol
I agree. This feature should stay in arcade where it belongs. Even without the tracking, wallhacking anything, including aircraft, shouldn't be allowed in realistic battles in any capacity.
Wow….now, I’m doubting all of the times I get sniped in a plane that I was flying in when the tank in question was at an angle to my flight path from more than 1km away. This is such bs… There should be no reason why someone gets best of both worlds when some others don’t
I mean he is wrong and right at the same time, isn't he? Having an advantage over other players playing the very same game. That's the very definition of cheating.
In the first few years of ground battles, PC players had this functionality. I used it a great deal to lock onto tanks to keep track of them through walls. I don't agree with this being a console exclusive control though. Especially since you can still use a mouse on console.
I've been playing since day one of the Xbox beta , have reached br 11 in multiple trees, and I had no clue this was a thing. Neither do any of the people I play with. I know about putting a bracket on air vehicles so I can call them out but they still have to be above true solid cover like the ground to place it. Definitely can't do it in sim though. Air sim is actually pretty nice with a controller. I do want to get a keyboard for extra keybinds and chat though. With all the new guided bombs/missiles and such they are adding, every button does like three things now and I have to remember them all. The big advantage you PC guys have though, is the ability to adjust graphics settings. It could look like a straight up sandstorm to me but one slider later it is perfectly clear for you. We are stuck at high settings with full particles and bush/grass.
I would have liked if the graphic setting is set to console level for the minimum (atleast in RB). That way we can all see what we suppose to see not some players with hardware to run 200 fps but have clear sky when everyone else see sandstorms.
I am a console player and I didn’t even thought about using this😂 which i will never try because it’s messed up. Its sad and painful that gaijin has not done anything about this after a year from this video. I play on PS5 and this thing still exist. With a fancy graphics, 60 stable fps, what can go worse if you play mouse and keyboard. Targeting planes 8km away with a click of a button, thats fucked up
M&K get this feature as well, Lock Target can be used on anyone who is spotted, even through objects. It doesn't show you where to lead the target to hit, but if you have a fast enough round like an APFSDS it can look like Auto-Aim against slow Helis and such.
To correct everyone on this whole aimlock for controllers, its also on PC, its a feature that you can turn on and off and it locks target for both tanks and aircraft, I've been playing warthunder for 3 years now and its been a feature since I started, you can turn it on or off on both PC and console, I always used to use the target snap when I was playing ground vehicles but found it annoying that once you target an aircraft but your shooting at a tank your tank snaps to the plane then you get hit by the tank, so for all those players going "why program and aimbot for controllers" keep in mind that its on your pc aswell, you just never bothered to check what certain settings do, how it works is you target a vehicle with middle mouse then hold right mouse to zoom a bit and lock on then it tracks the target, it doesnt actually lead the target it always aims right on it but if you hold the button and turn the camera then you can somewhat lead the shot.
Lock on actually exist on Pc like 2 years ago, you can lock on by holding zoom after locking target which makes AA gun hella accurate. They remove it like 1 year ago
I thought everyone on console knew about this, it works in aircraft too to an extent I play console mainly and I get a lot of use from this feature with AA tanks and I don’t think it should track targets this well
also another good point is if that is a good player he can hear your helicopter rotating and couldve been guessing you were going to be there and was correct. cause i know that i have done stuff like that with my 7k something hours on warthunder and have been called a cheater afterwards when all it really was was good game sense.
Joining "late" might also be a PC user that selected the option to join battles already in progress. I have done that sometimes when I am not in the mood for a long wait time while the matchmaker is trying to find players for a fresh battle. I did not know about console players being able to track through solid objects. That is definitely unfair and Gaijin needs to break that target find/lock "feature."
When you see someone's name in Chinese, you know something weird is gonna happen and 1 minute later than the Chinese start doing VTOL on his tank while you and everyone else still have a good connection and low PL
I don’t know if you will see this but the reason your name was showing up red from his POV is because you were watching the replay from his pov at that moment and the game showed all of your teammates as red as well.
It backfireds tho, because if you’re locked onto something else by accident, you go to use optics on a tank in front of you and it forces you off whatever you’re looking at. It’s cost me my life multiple times.
If you look closely at the name of the players in the match with you, you can notice since the game is cross platform, gaijin displays a little icon next to the name of the player to indicate the platform they use to play War Thunder. PC players have a little monitor, Xbox players have their controller, and PS4/5 players have the playstation logo next to their name. Console players for whatever reason have a weird feature that allows us to lock onto an aircraft without usage of like radar/irst. PC players have the advantage of what's been known as "ultra low quality" among lots of people now. The lock onto an aircraft for a console player usually only works if you have a direct sightline to them, though from my experience you still see the lock on around the aircraft, you just can't hold X or A (Playstation and Xbox in that order) and be able to track the aircraft, you'd have to do that manually
Looking back at the video makes me want to get a controller just to play top tier. You dont even need a radar lock to lock a plane with a controller so you are essentially hidden from the enemy heli or plane and you can fire your missile without giving the enemy player warning.
I think it’s because when a console player uses the range finder (on a somewhat modern vehicle) the cannon automatically adjust to position itself correctly to shoot accurately. And it’s not a hack actually, console players can hold the aim (LT) button so that their crosshairs follow the aircraft and keep a steady position. (I know this because I play on Xbox, I do it to) but I am also surprise at his reaction time. It makes sense why gaijin gave us this, since we have joysticks, not a lot of space to move fast
The series x is amazing. You load in before everyone else and you get get the best graphics as well as 120fps during all gameplay. I’ve had a couple people accuse me of cheating just because of how speedy I am able to be at the game.
There's two types of people who are wrong. Those that accept, and those that continue with their own ego. People will always learn to forgive and respect the former
tracking people when they've been spotted is a small handicap for pc players considering they have not only tons more performance and optimization advantage but also have a full 360 degree mouse space controlled by the full strength of your entire bicep right down to your hand muscle allowing for super quick fine adjustments that simply are not possible with a measly stick that slips and slides that you have no control over the friction of, oh and did i already mention the performance allowing for so many times more rendering than a console can
No way… that’s me in the AGS. Sorry to do you like that lmao. I do play on Xbox on a controller though, and I think I recorded the clip from my pov. Although the feature helps a ton with tracking aircraft while on controller, it is pretty nasty that you can do it through rocks and buildings, especially if you hook up a mouse and keyboard. Great video, I think that it’s a feature not many know about that needs some adjustments. I still can’t believe I just happened to stumble on this video, and sorry again about killing you that way lol.
It's all good. No need to apologize for killing me. Gaijin kills me with their terrible hitboxes way more than any single player has. I am also nasty in a Helicopter if people don't shoot at me (: You should definitely post it and I'll link it in the video description!
Also, I apologize if you received any hate from people calling you a hacker. I did my best to undo the damage I caused.
@@BruceLeeroy94 Hey what's up man, yea I'm on PS and I've tried to explain this so many times. It's not an unlimited range thing there are limitations and differences between Battles like Squadron battles the range is less than Realistic battles, Sim it does not work at all, it's just mk1. and radar. It will track like you said but when it comes to the shot the player still needs to lead, in RB at least. It not a mess up, it's because the control ergonomics are wonky compared to PC controls. I have a video of me shooting shit down. It may seem like auto aim but trust me I've watched other console player not be able to hit a pe-8 @ tree level even with this, I've sat and really practiced anti air methodically, and I'm proud of my Flarak Pz.1 K/D, and I wear my digital anti air badges with pride lol.
@@BruceLeeroy94 Im sorry I don't wanna keep it going but, I just want to point out that it's not console vs PC , it's everyone vs Everyone so there is no bias in which teams has more or less PC to console players, so the mechanics aggravating and meditating factors leave it an equally spread out situation ya feel me. And this has been happening not like some new phenomenon, y'all have been being shot the f'duck down just like any other mug that was flying around in any other battle, so the video informative hopefully people can still take accountability for their getting themselves shot down. End of the day, hope to see you out there fam, GLHF o7
It’s pretty op in a way especially with you play SAMs. You don’t need to get radar lock. Just hold LT and fire
props to you for being able to admit when you are wrong
not everyone would have made a follow up video
Well, he wasn't wrong. The guy's just using gaijoogles own 'legit' wallhacks and aimbot. It's not 'cheating' but it is absolutely cheating.
@Finnish ski troop Then plug in a fucking kbm and play on an even footing without this bullshit. Easy as. There's no excuse for cheating, which this blatantly is, as it gives a clearly massive advantage.
@@Debilitator47 not only do they get those, but get plus to line of sight. Me and friends tested it and it was crazy. They have better view than someone with ultra low graphics. Even shows red tags farther. Like almost a 10 tank length advantage. It's completely BS
I play PC with max settings, cause I want it to look good.
@suomalainen sotilas metsässä BS, it's like shooting fish in a barrel for anyone that has some skill. This is just the tip of the advantages consoles get.
He's really not wrong its just they are allowed to pretty much allowed hack / cheat...
I'm not only angry that this tracks targets so you can make finer adjustments... I'm absolutely pissed off that it can track vehicles through walls.
What a joke. Thanks for highlighting this. Very informative video.
No problem! I do think players with a controller need some assistance, but the fact this assistance can be used with a mouse is a bit too much. Not sure how Gaijin would fix something like this since they don't want to remove the ability to use a mouse on console, and they don't want console players who use a controller to lose their only reliable way of shooting down aircraft because trying to aim at a moving target with a joystick is not easy at all.
I definitely think the lock on should break once visual contact has been lost, but the target tracking is something I'm not sure should stay or go. I don't want to be the guy to ruin other people's way of enjoying the game or competing with people who have better hardware, but I also don't want people to abuse stuff like this either.
@@BruceLeeroy94
Gaijin have a setting that doesn't render vehicles if game thinks they're behind a wall and that you shouldn't see it (this is why tanks very often disappear in sight, especially when behind some chunks on certain maps. Considering how Gaijin "fix" things and how recently they promised to make a separate rocket launch in sim (when rockets go 1 by 1 and not two at once), but there are still MANY vehicles in the game that didn't get it and players have to manually suggest fix on forums, this is just another handicapped mechanic we must live with
This combination lock on track has been in the game for ages, has it not. I remember back in 2018 seeing this mechanic. I have never actually used it, but if it can track through walls and rocks that is scummy to say the least.
Its pretty rare that it will accually work through walls especially in realistic that's probably just a annoying ass bug
@@sparrow9990 I was wondering if it could be made into a bug report or something?
The only flaw in his revision is that in realistic battles, you still can’t see nameplates even if spotted
you can still lock on tho?
You can’t see plates BUT you can lock on to spotted targets.
@@ShiningDarknes it will place a box around them as well, and spotted targets is pretty misleading seeing how sometimes it will lock on through buildings and mountains with no line of sight.
Targets still get spotted in RB tanks. I'm not sure if tanks can be spotted, but aircraft can definitely still be spotted. If you ever see the red arrows on the edge of your screen, then it's a spotted aircraft. It seems like it works randomly, but it's definitely there.
You can definitely see names… At least in AR battles… I don’t do AR A lot, but I could definitely see usernames…
"console players can lock onto people in realistic battles through rocks, hills, anything" ah yes, REALISTIC
Warthunder is just broken
@Austin Delorme bro I'm dying RN XD
War Thunder has naver been 100% realistic
@@crowbirdryuell or even realistic at all
@Austin Delorme Honestly, I think its internet connection issues for some. I have a 4ms Ping to Frankfurt and usually 6-8ms ingame. I get Ghostshells maxbe once a year. Like literally in the 4 years I've played this, I had maybe 6 Ghostshells.
But when I played at my friends house once, he has bad Internet, I got 2 Ghostshells in one day. So probably really some synch/server issues
That’s wild. Honestly when I saw the first video I was right with you on the irritation. It’s super cool you made a follow up video explaining what you found
The hacker video was gaining traction really fast, so I had to make sure I set the record straight before it got out of hand now that I knew what was going on.
Yes it is true that on consoles you can track planes or helis. But it is very annoying tho ... I must admit that I was using it when I was only starting with wt. But I couldn't get the grip with my controller (but don't get me wrong I've been playing cod on controller and I can compete with mous players- not elite or pros but hey it should be fun). And then I switched to mouse and keyboard and every time I pressed the mouse button (range finder) it started to track the plans(if there were some) and that killed me coupe of times and I turned it off. I know that I could change the button functions but I didn't. In conclusion I think that if your playing on controller (it is pressing one of the analogue sticks and it is very annoying as I said earlier. And if you're using keyboard than you don't really need it🤷. And remember it is only my opinion (it is 2022 after all😂✌️)
I play on pc and I remember binding a key to c that allowed ur turret to lock onto a target quickly in arcade. Does nothing in realistic, but useful in arcade to quickly get sights on target then just let go of C to start precisely shooting spots on the enemy.
“Nobody loads in this late unless you are playing on console” burn aid applies
Somebody get the water, because this console’s blazing =A
-man admits his mistake from the previous video
-clears up the accused person's name
-the accused person comments
-they made up
- wholesome
This is awesome, you earned as sub :>
If there's no kiss they didn't made up.
I mean if you wanna see someone be real here.
Chances are that person isn't the actual person that made that shot.
The chances of them finding this video are slim to none.
If you did however want to ramp up traction you could easily set this up on one of your videos to increase the number of comments and abuse the algo.
You can then make your video just over 10 minutes long same with the other one he did on this subject.
Tadah you just slightly abused the borderline youtube community.
well, let's just not be negative here. It's actually up to the one who posted this video. He apologized because he made a mistake, that's all that matters. But If your choice is to think about consipary stuff, I'll leave that up to you.
I was hoping for you to say "Chad"
love is in the air..
ive used this locking-on feature on console and its kind of over powered , e.g you can lock on to an aircraft in a missile aa without radar and the aircraft wont receive a radar warning. The locking on pretty much guides your missiles to the enemy.
I thought PC guys could also do this
@@Lucky_MiTo. no, not since they added radars to SAMs.
Is the lock on similar to the mechanic in naval RB?
If so i can feel the pain of a thousand players already
@@Lucky_MiTo. nah, not for a few years now. This is even nastier on proxy-fused gun AA. A pc player has to actually aim, a console player just presses a button and pulls right trigger and laser beams you out of the sky.
@@Lucky_MiTo. AI gunners in AB naval can. I've had them lock onto/fire at stuff behind cliffs and things I can't see.
In arcade it works the same way. Guiding ATGMs into enemy jets is very easy with this method, I did it regularly with the begleitpanzer.
But having this in realistic battles is just unfair, even when the enemy names just pop up, because names shouldn't be in realistic at all.
the name doesn’t pop up it’s just a little transparent square
I think it's fair bewcause it would make realistic completely unplayable on Xbox
@@infinitehexingtonYeah, average PC players when console players get one advantage over them lol
@@polizniaconsole players when they don't get aimbot 😢😢😢😢
This is a replay , he just had the names on to show where he was. You can toggle them on and off.
Yeah, they tried adding this feature to PC as well a while back, it was absolute pandemonium. You literally could not play aircraft in ground RB without getting deleted by SPAA through trees.
Just SPAA?
@@YoRHaUnit2Babe well duh have you ever tried shooting aircraft with non spaa
@@kidsarebadcheckmychannel949 Yes, i have multiple aircraft kills with tanks. Hell, i've got at least a dozen with my Maus of all things
I mean, I just got a pair of plane kills with a tiger a few hours ago.... Granted I chalk it to brain dead players than anything.
@@voidtraveller8667 Good ol P-47s flying straight at you at tree top level. Never gets old
Wow, didn't know there was actual legal aimbot built in game for console players. That explains some crazy stuff in game tho.
Only for surface to air
Ya it they used to have it for PC but they realized after about 2 months that it was OP and PC lost the ability to do so
I'm on xbox its still hard
Aiming with a joystick is usually harder than with the mouse so this makes sense
@@jakeogroton I remember that
As a console player I had no clue about any of this. I'm aware of tracking an air target with the little grey box and being able to always see the box when it's in view but I had no clue you could lock on like this
Me neither, how does this work
I do and i don't use it anymore due to it being broken
@@bencurran3204 I use it
I'm at a disadvantage
I'll ise any advantahe
Use left trigger
Even with the trace it's still hard to hit anything ! XD
someone once said "Don't blame the player. Blame the game"
Both? Both is good. An obvious cheat feature is an obvious cheat. Gaijin shouldn't have put it in the game, and players, upon learning of it, should have the self awareness to realize it's a blatant hack.
War thunder should have come with a warning on console: 'Requires keyboard and mouse to play.' Then everyone's on an even footing, this braindead fuckery wouldn't have been seen as necessary to overcome the limits of console gamepads, this video would never have existed.
Since learning of this I've brutalized every console player I see. I'll make this shit as unenjoyable and toxic as I can. Fuck hackers, and fuck gaijin for all of this.
@@Debilitator47 Bro,i play console and pc.and i can tell you its hard on console bc you have to use joysticks so i think its fair.and yeah it gives console players sonewhat of a advantage,you shouldnt just start hurting console players bc of that.if you have to,blame gajin
Plus most of my friends who play console dont notice
@@oluwatosinopawoye5695 Bluntly speaking, if they're going to put this in game, they should just put aimbots in for everyone and call it a day. This is garbage. Everyone plays on an even footing. If a gamepad gives a disadvantage, then require keyboard and mouse. I'm fucking done with excuse making. Gaijin are a shit dev who never saw a bad idea they wouldn't implement. Honestly this one caught me by surprise though, even for them, and deepens my desire to see a competent game dev make a competing product.
@@oluwatosinopawoye5695 its okay when them using console only.. but what make me disagreed is that console also can use mouse at the same time . that shit ") (auto lock target + mouse = OP)
There is also a thing very similar to that but in air battles. You can lock onto a plane or ground aa or artillery and not only it keeps track of the target, but it also locks your plane too, basically moves your entire plane towards the target, just like a missile. So you basically don't even need to move the plane yourself, you can just hold L2 and only move the crossair to shoot at your target.
I really thought people already knew about this, since i've never played on PC before
As a console CC WT creator, in a nutshell of this vid, the auto tracking system need some restrictions so it shouldn't auto track through walls & mountains & such which is hopefully that's the case here & should happen ASAP
and most important: shouldn't work with mouse and be actually considered a cheater for using that.
I play on ps4 and have you ever tried playing air sim on a controller its damn near impossible so i use keyboard and mouse. I think the tracking is fine because pc isn't as limited a consoles so consoles have a slight advantage over pc it fine with me
@@GWMsharpshot21 using controller aimassist with mouse and keyboard should be considered cheating, period. No debate about using mouse and keyboard on ps4 or xbox.
@@tigerbesteverything tbh the normal tracking is fine tough the "see trough walls" is too much, could easely fix it by removing it in RB
And it shouldnt work with a mouse and it shouldnt work in Ground RB at all...
I used to play on console with a controller, played it like that for a year and a half. I had no issues aiming, or tracking moving targets, and I didnt even know this existed till now. Yeah sometimes the joysticks would get me killed, but it was due the driving mechanics, not the aiming. I really dont think this should be in realistic at all, full stop.
Totally agree, it provides a tangibly unfair advantage, especially since mnk consol is a big thing
Yeah when I played on console I had no problem aiming also didn’t know this existed
@@Nyanti_Games tangibly?! That allows them to shoot my heli from 8 kilometers away with MBT's!
mouse helps more with awareness than aim in wt i'd say
What was the point of adding "full stop" 😆
This video really cleared things up for me, I'm now going to continue to call people cheaters but only while playing CoD
I'm just amazed you rendered to him, I've lost count of how many times I've died because someones entire tanks didn't render because a few branches covered them. Or my personal favorite, the missile carrier with the launcher on the roof, hiding behind a hill with the launcher sticking above the hill, you'll be looking right at them, and no launcher is visible, instead, you only know someone is there when the missile actually launches.
Wiesel 1A2 vibes here
This is actually a good explanation on why it seems that enemies can see me through walls and rocks and ground and what not
On PC you used to be able to use headphones with maxed enemy engine noise and get an approximation, but this is a whole new level. Besides, last major sound change they heavily nerfed that ability to pinpoint sounds.
and yet again every consolplayer i accuse of using exactly that tells me there is no autotrack on console
As a console player for a good couple of years, I never knew such feature existed. I do use that lock-on feature on aircrafts as like a highlight and way to keep an eye on an aircraft when it's far away or behind cover whilst I concentrate on ground enemies. But I never knew there was a way to track enemies like how it is with radar based AAs. I don't want to implement such feature into my keybinds to keep it fair for everyone else and my custom keybinds are something that has changed throughout my time in War Thunder and will be keeping them the same. Besides, it's practically full due to the limited buttons on the controller unless I wanna do some crazy button combos. Great video anyways and I hope it can educate others.
Never really thought of it as radar but now it makes sense this lock on feature saves my ass all the time, from letting me know where the enemy planes are in clouds, to helping my little M3 track targets that are far beyond my range and letting me set up a good hit on their next approach
i am in 1:58 and i cant say that they could hear you the whole time
I would just like to clarify that you CAN NOT TRACK OTHER TANKS IN RB
Also on console when you lock on to an aircraft, you can call out to your team using the attack the enemy command. It will call out the aircraft with its name
Once I saw someone using this command, and I though they were cheating since in ground rb you cant lock on planes.
I remember being able to lock on with pc. I think there was a check box option that enabled lock on when holding down the right mouse button. It even gave an aiming circle for leading targets when using certain mounted mg's. It helped me get some kills when I first started playing. I think it was removed from pc after an update, but I may have changed settings getting rid of it because I havent seen it in a long time. Very interesting information and great break down.
I read another comment that said it was on both. Got removed from PC but never got removed from the console edition.
I remember too being able to do that on pc
Brother were you playing in arcade 💀
Dude, you have brought something to our attention that we really needed to know, thanks
Wow, I happened to notice players that tend to get surprising shots on me had the console icon. I had assumed that in some way it's easier to work the sticks (like in air battles) than dragging a mouse around. It turns out I was right, but for the wrong reason.
Having played console war thunder for years, and now on PC for a few weeks.
PC plays much better/easier.
Console sticks make a bit smoother "mouse aim" flying yeah, slightly.
But actually aiming is more difficult.
And most of all, try playing air RB without "C" key.
Aiming whit a stick is a fuckton harder to aim whit than whit a mouse
Just because its a feature given to console players doesnt mean it isnt cheating, if it were on PC it would 100% be cheating, there is no logical answer why this should be a tool they are allowed to use
facts
Goddamn Bruce really letting it all out in those last 30 seconds
I play in PS5 w a mouse and keyboard, but have that setting turned off, in my eyes it kinda messes the shot up sometimes because the lock of feature is annoying especially in ships. But if your aiming at a tank and accidentally locked onto a heli and press button on accident you look straight at the aircraft and the tank gets free shot on you. So it’s a good and bad feature
I hate it so much when it locks onto a random aircraft like that it annoys the hell outta me
@@g3arjammer837 hell I've sometimes had it happen with a plane that "survived" a crash landing.
Long time watcher, first time commenter. Stand up dude you are my friend. Thank you for your amazing content and mad props to your skills in the rotor craft. You are forever my helicopter Jesus.
A thing that is interesting but many people don't know is that there is a setting that let's you join games that are already running for like a minute or something like that, so that means that spawning late isn't really an indicator if the player is on console or PC. A Way to know if it's a console player is just looking at their Username, if it's a console player yo can see a "controller icon" in front of it.
This isn't true. My name has the console symbol but I'm purely on PC. It's just the account was made on console is all.
this explains so much, some console payers I've met insta kill me when I come out of cover and I always thought it was just 3rd person peeking or something.
They can only lock and track ajr vehicles.
SAme dude, absolutely the same.Thats the stuff why i dont play arcade. But apparently console players get to play arcade in Realistic mode.
I watched this like when you posted it why is this getting recommedded to me again :D
I’m an Xbox player and it’s outright op. Works a dream with atgm’s against choppers. I use a mouse and keyboard and still lets me lock.. I get it for controller but this is outright unfair
Its not op. We only have this Bec we are barely using muscle on our finger. The pc players can use their whole arm. We can’t.
@@User-wuqo2Yi8 it’s op.
@@User-wuqo2Yi8 ...after he told you he uses m/kb?
@@User-wuqo2Yi8 imagine being so trash with a controller you need aim bots.
@@deezboyeed6764 literally ive played war thunder for 4 years now and Ive always had that and didnt think it was aim bot or anything how is it aim bot if you can still miss your shot
Теперь понятно, от куда у консольщиков такой скилл. Если мой вертолёт сбивали обычным обпс, то чаще всего это был консольщик, сквозь препятствия тоже часто обнаруживали. Я сразу решил, что им не отключили аркадный захват авиации, но они не сознавались :) хорошее видео.
to be fair to Console players it is insanely difficult for controller to hit anything with AA without the locking
I'm a console player we can target and lock onto aircraft in any battle except sim
And we can do this while using mouse and keyboard and because I'm on next generation consoles I do not spawn late
*current Gen console
@@asiftalpur3758 yeah but they were marketed as a luxury item as far as I know at least xbox was
There is a setting where you can join a battle from the start or when it has started. This is for console and pc version!!! It's been in the setting since day one! If you ever find a game where there are more people on one side than the other this is when people can join into the game minutes after its started to even the teams
@@teacoffee5847 I know about it but I have always had it turned off
@@qwispychild9491 things tend to be marketed as the next big thing. after they come out they are always current. it's a scam.
4:31 I think I've got it figured out. The AGS player must be spamming his button to lock on to your heli that he can hear behind the mountain, and once you fire your rocket at the huey, it allows him to lock you. You can see he gets the lock-on a couple milliseconds before your smoke trail is visible. There must be some kind of code that gives you a "soft spotted" status when you fire towards an enemy player. Or maybe if they see your projectile?
As far as I remember, there's a time when in PC you can lock on aircraft in ground RB. It was a feature added to help SPAA, but It was removed because people find it annoying when they try to zoom in, they instead lock on and tracking aircraft in the air.
Well no. You only can track the aircraft when you binded the key for it. Locking the target was removed so not any player on PC with that keybind could lock the aircraft. Its very simple. but tbh it was a good time. Silly me thought that with the removal of this locking method it would also mean that on console its not possible anymore, so its a good thing i quitted wt some months ago.
thats why i changed my keybinds some time ago, there is a separate zoom , thats not bound to right mouse by default.
It was soooo annyoing, you do not want to know how many times i tried aiming at a close by tank then it locks onto an aircraft
I always check statistics before I accuse anyone of cheating. The most reliable way to tell if someone is cheating in War Thunder is how consistently well they are playing overall. If they are like 5 to 1 plus KDR, 60%-70% plus W/L in the majority of their most played vehicles, I feel it is safe to say they are cheating. Average statistics are not eye popping with their egregiousness and one must also take into account that some vehicles were busted upon release or were buffed to OP status so many people stat padded with said vehicles during their times of over-performance, but those instances in which a player is a smurf and only plays the best of the best vehicles and has insane KDR is very suspicious indeed. I checked this players stats and he is a legitimate player, but I can see where your assumption came from considering the AGS is a commonly used vehicle for cheaters. There are plenty of trends you can see with cheater accounts in their statistics spread and their vehicle choices which are tell-tale red flags. Just look at more stat cards and you will see who is really cheating. The only nail in the coffin way to determine someone is actually cheating is by viewing their gameplay in a replay and watch for signs of them staring at people through walls and bushes and trees as well as knowing exact ranges of targets and seeing things which normally could not be heard due to distance as well as rage hacking which is commonly seen as shooting through multiple targets through trees and bushes over multiple battles and perhaps trying to hide it as well by staring through walls and bushes and trees but hesitating to shoot at targets they would have a shot on despite not directly seeing them. There is also the reaction time red flag which is easier to spot in live gameplay, especially at higher monitor refresh rates.
As a console player I don't think we should have these tools, I feel like it makes the point of ground radar useless, and that's depressing, it means it takes no actual skill to shoot down a plane
maybe a litthe more vague aim assist, i have a controller for pc and is pretty hard to be accurate
@@INWMI I play console games all the time aim assist has done more to throw off my aim than to actually help me before
That's so weird, I've played on console for 3ish years now and never realized you could have the gun follow an aircraft that way
Ive used the target lock for sure, but i distinctly remember turning off the tracking camera (at least for aircraft controls, where you start with it as a keybind by default) since it was disorienting in combination with my other aircraft keybinds
I dont think its a default setting for ground controls because i never remember having to turn it off. Seeing as i'm quite capable of shooting things down without it, and open keybinds on a controller are hard to come by, i have no plans of using it anyway
Same here
A small tip here, in naval realistic on PC(That like 3 people play including me) you can do the same. You spam "select target" and you can see enemies through hills even if any other vessel has no visual range on them. And your rangefinder works through hills/mountains so you can get a fire solution quickly. It's a leftover system as you used to be able to do it in realistic battles on PC as well for some time but it got removed for obvious reasons.
This is in fact a feature on console to help with locking planes and helicopters, I’ve done this countless times with the M24 and gotten quite a few kills. A little while ago, the feature got removed but recently got added back
This is crazy.
Thanks for sharing mate. Btw I like how you explain things, very informative! You earned yourself a new subscriber. ✌🏼
Great explanation video, and good on you for owning up to your mistake and making it right!
I had no idea that pc players didn’t have access to this feature. Which doesn’t seem very fair. I’ve always used it to hold my lead steady on aircraft when I’m playing something like the M42 or Ostwind. Although it’s extremely overpowered with something like the M163 or the Shilka, it doesn’t really help with something like the Sergeant York. But if PC players can’t do it, I don’t think we should be able to do it either.
What you said really makes me feel like the more suspicious times I got shot down by SPAA were console players abusing that feature.
The m163 does get a tracking radar
@@davidwagner7179 it does, it doesn't get search radar
This explains why I've been so weirded out by SPAA in low teir some times, I figured some people were just freaks with aim but this makes sense lol
@@davidwagner7179 I've had it happen a lot with non guided stuff like M42s and the likes.
Flying somewhat evasively and suddenly my plane explodes.
First off, I only have one minor correction, "now" console players can use a mouse? That's been a thing from almost day one. Almost. Hell, I have a Frankenstein control setup where I planned on using a mouse and a controller in aircraft battles from almost 3 years ago (didn't work out for obvious reasons). At least I can proudly say I don't use this feature and have gotten a few Aircraft kills from a tank.
This is why I refuse to play any cross platform games, the console legal cheat modes have got completely out of hand.
I mean, that is where I am confused about Gaijin, when a console player has a mouse and keyboard, that aim assist should temporary go away, when the player then plugs the controller back in, then they can use the aim assist again, it's not too difficult to have implemented, as many other games has this option by default...
Let's take GTA for instance in this scenario, I used to play on console back in the day, had XBOX 360, I also used both controller, mouse and keyboard, whenever I swapped to mouse and keyboard, the aim assist was taken away.... but when I took the controller instead, the aim assist came back, that was a default setting that could not be turned off... Now, if Gaijin really cares about the community, they would do this exact same thing... In which I doubt they will
The thing that bugs me about him shooting your tail off is that there was no visible travel time for his shell. At the exact moment you hear him fire, your tail gets shot off. As well it seemed to have a totally flat trajectory.
Yeah thatll happen when youre shooting APDS-FS at what looks to be ~600m max
Besides, the clip is also sped up
clip is sped up and that's an apfsds round traveling at very high velocity for 700m or less
APFDS fires at an absolutely insane velocity. The video makes sense. All/most APFDS has a velocity of 1000m/s+. So the shell would have taken WELL under a second to make contact with the heli
this is why I hate going against console players. Yeah they are at a technical disadvantage, and it's a "skill issue" for a pc player for calling them out, but they legitimately do have literal actual aimbot built into the console version of the game, and this is a great example to how it was used to its best ability. I do think however that if they did not have this feature, playing on console would be next to impossible though. I just think it was a major mistake for gayjin to allow console players and pc players to be in the same match. I would have much preferred a way to transfer content between platforms over that.
12:12 me because the game is borderline un playable at top tier on controller
i got called a hacker once when i was playing as a gepard in sinai when a heli was hiding behind the hills and i knew exactly where and when he would peak, kinda stupid to be honest
I already lobbed He with fuzes over a mountain BC that Guy peeked the 3rd time over it some never learn 🤣
As a console player.. I confirm you're correct, sir.
Been using target tracking with a M&Kb since the release of Tanks on WT... years ago.
Works with ships, too...
I had heard of this feature but it's interesting to see how it works. I've definitely been on the receiving end of it a few times! I remember once when I was diving into the battlefield at a good rate of speed just to get one shot by a bofors before I could even get a shot off. I was still quite high up when I got hit too. I thought they must have been hacking to make such an insane shot, but then I remembered this mechanic, checked their tag, and sure enough, it was a console player lol
I play on console without knowing this and this feature is completely unnecessary even though playing on a console can be difficult
I agree. This feature should stay in arcade where it belongs. Even without the tracking, wallhacking anything, including aircraft, shouldn't be allowed in realistic battles in any capacity.
Well played owning up to a mistake and publishing it. GG bruh. Gained a like and sub for that alone.
I just want to add a note, you can also enable this on PC by exporting your controls, adding this option, then importing them again.
Wait, seriously?
How??
Wow….now, I’m doubting all of the times I get sniped in a plane that I was flying in when the tank in question was at an angle to my flight path from more than 1km away. This is such bs… There should be no reason why someone gets best of both worlds when some others don’t
great content brother. takes a real man to admit when hes wrong
I mean he is wrong and right at the same time, isn't he? Having an advantage over other players playing the very same game. That's the very definition of cheating.
In the first few years of ground battles, PC players had this functionality. I used it a great deal to lock onto tanks to keep track of them through walls. I don't agree with this being a console exclusive control though. Especially since you can still use a mouse on console.
I've been playing since day one of the Xbox beta , have reached br 11 in multiple trees, and I had no clue this was a thing. Neither do any of the people I play with. I know about putting a bracket on air vehicles so I can call them out but they still have to be above true solid cover like the ground to place it. Definitely can't do it in sim though.
Air sim is actually pretty nice with a controller. I do want to get a keyboard for extra keybinds and chat though. With all the new guided bombs/missiles and such they are adding, every button does like three things now and I have to remember them all. The big advantage you PC guys have though, is the ability to adjust graphics settings. It could look like a straight up sandstorm to me but one slider later it is perfectly clear for you. We are stuck at high settings with full particles and bush/grass.
I would have liked if the graphic setting is set to console level for the minimum (atleast in RB). That way we can all see what we suppose to see not some players with hardware to run 200 fps but have clear sky when everyone else see sandstorms.
I am a console player and I didn’t even thought about using this😂 which i will never try because it’s messed up. Its sad and painful that gaijin has not done anything about this after a year from this video. I play on PS5 and this thing still exist. With a fancy graphics, 60 stable fps, what can go worse if you play mouse and keyboard. Targeting planes 8km away with a click of a button, thats fucked up
Still having a console AIM support, while playing On Mouse is clear "handicap" and not really "fairplay".
M&K get this feature as well, Lock Target can be used on anyone who is spotted, even through objects. It doesn't show you where to lead the target to hit, but if you have a fast enough round like an APFSDS it can look like Auto-Aim against slow Helis and such.
Not once did you think about every player on the map having a marker on them for any team to see their location??
To correct everyone on this whole aimlock for controllers, its also on PC, its a feature that you can turn on and off and it locks target for both tanks and aircraft, I've been playing warthunder for 3 years now and its been a feature since I started, you can turn it on or off on both PC and console, I always used to use the target snap when I was playing ground vehicles but found it annoying that once you target an aircraft but your shooting at a tank your tank snaps to the plane then you get hit by the tank, so for all those players going "why program and aimbot for controllers" keep in mind that its on your pc aswell, you just never bothered to check what certain settings do, how it works is you target a vehicle with middle mouse then hold right mouse to zoom a bit and lock on then it tracks the target, it doesnt actually lead the target it always aims right on it but if you hold the button and turn the camera then you can somewhat lead the shot.
Lock on actually exist on Pc like 2 years ago, you can lock on by holding zoom after locking target which makes AA gun hella accurate. They remove it like 1 year ago
I usually have the feature turned off cause it’s really easy to accidentally lock something you don’t want to and it gets you killed
Tbf, there are an enormous amount of cheaters in this game. One of the many reasons I've stopped playing.
I thought everyone on console knew about this, it works in aircraft too to an extent
I play console mainly and I get a lot of use from this feature with AA tanks and I don’t think it should track targets this well
I play on xbox and i have never been able to lock onto someone except from arcade
also another good point is if that is a good player he can hear your helicopter rotating and couldve been guessing you were going to be there and was correct. cause i know that i have done stuff like that with my 7k something hours on warthunder and have been called a cheater afterwards when all it really was was good game sense.
I generally don’t understand how PC players think they are better when they are just playing a point and click adventure
Do you have PC?
so many games out there and people unironically playing war thunder is something I will never understand
Console players have like * and + for which console they are using IIRC. it's been over a year since I played so forget
Joining "late" might also be a PC user that selected the option to join battles already in progress.
I have done that sometimes when I am not in the mood for a long wait time while the matchmaker is trying to find players for a fresh battle.
I did not know about console players being able to track through solid objects. That is definitely unfair and Gaijin needs to break that target find/lock "feature."
When you see someone's name in Chinese, you know something weird is gonna happen and 1 minute later than the Chinese start doing VTOL on his tank while you and everyone else still have a good connection and low PL
I don’t know if you will see this but the reason your name was showing up red from his POV is because you were watching the replay from his pov at that moment and the game showed all of your teammates as red as well.
It backfireds tho, because if you’re locked onto something else by accident, you go to use optics on a tank in front of you and it forces you off whatever you’re looking at. It’s cost me my life multiple times.
now it makes sense how people shoot me through bushes and hit me while i can't see them at all.
If you look closely at the name of the players in the match with you, you can notice since the game is cross platform, gaijin displays a little icon next to the name of the player to indicate the platform they use to play War Thunder. PC players have a little monitor, Xbox players have their controller, and PS4/5 players have the playstation logo next to their name. Console players for whatever reason have a weird feature that allows us to lock onto an aircraft without usage of like radar/irst. PC players have the advantage of what's been known as "ultra low quality" among lots of people now. The lock onto an aircraft for a console player usually only works if you have a direct sightline to them, though from my experience you still see the lock on around the aircraft, you just can't hold X or A (Playstation and Xbox in that order) and be able to track the aircraft, you'd have to do that manually
Looking back at the video makes me want to get a controller just to play top tier. You dont even need a radar lock to lock a plane with a controller so you are essentially hidden from the enemy heli or plane and you can fire your missile without giving the enemy player warning.
Lol that last rant was hilarious. But now I'm going to look into if I can turn off cross play. Why can't any dev make a fair cross platform game?
To be fair I have pulled off shot's like that by just predicting with the sound of your engines. 7.1 surround sound headphones is a must have.
fair play man, funny as fuck when you gave a real apology, straight into "WHO THE FUCK USES A MOUSE ON CONSOLE" ....I felt that.
With console, there's lock on to planes/helis, so long as your name pops up and your semi- visible, it's still possible
I think it’s because when a console player uses the range finder (on a somewhat modern vehicle) the cannon automatically adjust to position itself correctly to shoot accurately. And it’s not a hack actually, console players can hold the aim (LT) button so that their crosshairs follow the aircraft and keep a steady position. (I know this because I play on Xbox, I do it to) but I am also surprise at his reaction time.
It makes sense why gaijin gave us this, since we have joysticks, not a lot of space to move fast
When something fair is legal, that's where the hate and salt come from.
The series x is amazing. You load in before everyone else and you get get the best graphics as well as 120fps during all gameplay. I’ve had a couple people accuse me of cheating just because of how speedy I am able to be at the game.
one advantage sitting right on top of a mountain of disadvantages
You can tell if someone is a console player by the controller icon next to their names in game
there are SO many hackers and bots in this game, way more than when this vid came out.
There's two types of people who are wrong. Those that accept, and those that continue with their own ego. People will always learn to forgive and respect the former
tracking people when they've been spotted is a small handicap for pc players considering they have not only tons more performance and optimization advantage but also have a full 360 degree mouse space controlled by the full strength of your entire bicep right down to your hand muscle allowing for super quick fine adjustments that simply are not possible with a measly stick that slips and slides that you have no control over the friction of, oh and did i already mention the performance allowing for so many times more rendering than a console can
Tracking Camera: Enemy - RMB(Right Mouse Button), it's in the controls under camera control. PS4 player here.. explains a lot of what's going on..