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Final Fantasy 7 Remake | Gentlemen's Gaming Club
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- Опубликовано: 26 фев 2021
- Gentlemen's Gaming Club returns with Final Fantasy 7 remake! Well actually, completing the original FF7 took so long that an entire new Final Fantasy game came out. So we decided to review both! Let's explore Midgar and dive deep!
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The world is under the control of Shinra, a corporation controlling the planet's life force as mako energy. In the city of Midgar, Cloud Strife, former member of Shinra's elite SOLDIER unit now turned mercenary lends his aid to the Avalanche resistance group, unaware of the epic consequences that await him. Final Fantasy 7 Remake is a reimagining of the iconic original with unforgettable characters, a mind-blowing story, and epic battles. The story of this first, standalone game in the Final Fantasy VII Remake project covers up to the party’s escape from Midgar, and goes deeper into the events occurring in Midgar than the original Final Fantasy 7. A new chapter awakens with Final Fantasy 7 Remake Intergrade, an enhanced and expanded version of the critically acclaimed and award-winning Final Fantasy 7 remake for the PlayStation 5. It comes bundled with the brand new episode featuring Yuffie as the main character, which introduces an exhilarating new story arc and numerous gameplay additions for players to enjoy.
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We're back baby! Thanks for watching an hour long return to two boys rambling about vidja games.
Thank You Jesse for doing an episode of gentlemen’s gaming club on my Favourite Game Of All Time! Final Fantasy 7 Remake! I’m so happy! 😊👍🏻
Yes! I love these!
Its been so long! Hell yeah, I'm glad it's back
love this intro btw! welcome back gentlemen!
So glad you’re back
“Nailed It. I know. Thank you. Moving On.” Best Cloud line in the game. 🤣
I half believe that was the devs talking to the audience. They knew that Wall Market was pretty much "the scene" they had to get right. Moon logic or no, it's the part of Midgar everyone remembers. It also aged like milk in parts, what with the casual homophobia (Group Room, anyone?) and treating Cloud crossdressing as inherently funny/embarrassing. They managed it to perfection; keeping the bits that worked, slashing the bits that didn't, and making it all more fun by having Cloud be a little into the whole thing. They kept the tone and atmosphere intact perfectly, but in a way that was actually done much better than the original sequence.
@@neodav00001 Indeed: they pulled off what seemed impossible to pull off. It was shocking and exhilirating.
When Jesse said the thing about Aerith talking to the player, I immediately thought about the Aerith/Cloud church scene in 7R. Aerith looks straight at you and says "Pretty crazy, huh? Us meeting again like this."
Nice catch 😆
When Jesse said he'd release a new Gentlemen's Gaming Club I wouldn't have guessed this, but I am so ready for it. So this must be why he asked for animators to do the old FF7 style animations like a year ago
fantastic video jesse, I could listen and talk about FF7 and the remake forever tbh
It makes sense that you know good content.
Still waiting for a long form remake video from you bud. Lol
Wedge struggling to get away and save his cats still makes me cry 🥲
It wasn't until today that I made the connection he died... him getting injured then Cloud&gang rescuing him already had me like ahh... now I'm just extra sad, I really liked Wedge.
Unless he was savable and this video just has me like wot?
@@xvihata He actually didn't die in that scene. You find him a couple chapters later in really bad shape. Now a later scene.....I don't think our boy's coming back
@@Gatesealer89 There's a theory Jessie and Wedge survived, which is why their items are on the dresser by Biggs. With everything else going on with the Remake, I wouldn't doubt it if it was true.
@@Salmon_Samurai all I know is that I went into the game knowing what happened to them in the original and cursing the developers for making me care about these doomed characters
Hey, is there any chance of adding subtitles? My girlfriend loves your content but she's hearing impaired. RUclips's subtitles are... pretty bad usually. I doubt it but I'd figure I'd ask.
@@MrKnaives currently it only has the auto-generated closed captions, which what Baal meant with "RUclips's subtitles are... pretty bad usually."
Hand-curated ones are usually quite an improvement, not just because speech-to-text often transcribes things incorrectly, or misses things because the volume of for example in-game audio is below its threshold, but also because it won't include repeated sentence fragments that are common in natural spoken dialogue.
@@FiXato I agree! As someone who is hearing impaired, when they talk over each other or laugh at what the other each saying, the auto cap can’t pick up what they are saying while laughing. Plus the auto cap does not tell you who is talking.
@@MrKnaives If they were good enough, people wouldn't be asking for custom subtitles.
@@BayleeBubble Not to mention auto cap is not great when talking about things like Shinra or Mako. There are a lot of words I assume the auto cap would completely guess on.
Not gonna lie y'alls editing is getting exponentially better every epsode. Keep up the stellar (and sexy) content!
I mean the editing in this one is on point but have you _seen_ the Control video
I love how this came out directly after square announced the ff7 remake dlc
The boys are back! Lovin' it, here's to the power of engagement.
I really like the theory I've heard that Final Fantasy 7: Remake wasn't really meant as "a remake of FF7", but as a sequel to FF7 where "Remake" is the subtitle. Sephiroth is attempting to remake the past to change the outcome.
Also, one thing you missed: That bit at the end where Biggs is shown to be alive? Check the headband and glove on the dresser, and the way the camera seems to pay attention to them. They seem to look like Jessie's. It's obviously not confirmed, but a common fan theory is that they're hinting Jessie is still alive too. Considering how much more development her character got, I think we all hope so.
when I played FF7 I didn't know Aerith is going to die, and she was always part of my team, her abilities were really powerful so when she was killed it had an impact on my whole gameplay, it sounds so weird to hear them say Aerith a very important part of the team is a waste of experience
Well, she *is* a waste of early game experience whether you know it or not, because she will never be useable in the late game so any XP you pump into her is a waste. As you said, killing her off impacted your entire gameplay and probably led to you having to grind another character to serve as her replacement.
@@nrnrn999 I never actually felt experience was needed, never grinded, it's an easy game but I had to change my tactics my gear that sort of impact, I would still take aerith over the other teammates in a 2nd playthrough
"It's only 40 hours."
Chocobo racing confirmed this to be a lie.
Gotta get the Knights of the Round
The first time I saw Aerith bash the dude with a chair WWE style I fell out of my seat laughing. What a great unexpected moment
The gentlemen are now vtubers. :O
It was the natural course.
my roommate and i played this together. Our interpretation of the whole thing was that Aerith and Sephiroth are both aware of the events of the original FF7, to varying degrees. So they are both trying to move to manipulate events, and the whispers were trying to keep things the same. So the big whisper event at the end was destiny stepping in as a last ditch chance to keep things from going too far off the rails. Cloud and Co both obv beat them back, and then the fight with Sephiroth in the end opened up the world to a whole new game. So FF7R is predicated off the fact that FF7 has already happened, and we are playing a new timeline where anything can happen now.
But thats just our take
My take it that it's possible to save Aerith and Zack.
But Aerith knows that will doom the world, and will have to choose to give up everything to save everyone else.
I'm curious to see how it'll work out.
100% that's the case. I came to the same conclusion. Remake Aerith has seen the events of original FF7 and is trying to prevent them, which is why the plot ghosts are around to restore the game to the original timeline.
36:30 - I know for a fact they absolutely showed off part of the Honey Bee Inn stuff in a trailer, because people were practically threatening to riot if crossdressing Cloud wasn't in the game.
Jesse, it's been an honour to watch your content grow and mature with you. I love how you continue to push the envelope with every new series and Let's Play. The community is blessed to have you. Keep up the good work you perverted old man.
I love the whole Gentlemen's Gaming Club series, you can tell that they legitimately love what they are talking about
When I played Remake, I got Aerith's version of that scene, and it was one of my favorite moments in the whole game. Great vid, guys. It was fun reliving this with you.
This was AMAZING, and oh my god I absolutely adored Jesse's playthrough of the FF7 remake and I am DYING for the next one to come out so I can get hear Jesse's thoughts on everything while he plays, it's so much fun!
30:20 Aerith's dress depends on the side tasks completed in sector 5.
I'm so glad you managed to bring this series back, every episode is so much fun.
"Yeah but that Tifa though" cracked me up so hard
What a game this remake was, HOLY. For a while there i didn't appreciate how short the game was and how abrupt the ending was... and then i remembered its FF7 - there is so much more material here and i actually cant wait for part 2... I mean, you literally fight a house at one point, what could possibly be better
12:30 how dare you miss jesse the thirstiest girl ever
"Nailed it, I know. Thank you, moving on!" Oh my god I love him.
You know you can find and save wedge? Even gets an optional dungeon to boot.
Then he gets thrown out a window.
Really? I remember going back to Sector 7 was something you had to do, then the fight with the Behemoth was the optional thing.
I would love to be always as optimistic and full of energy as Mike is.
you missed the part were after you get the dress for Cloud you talk to Chadly and Chadly is like OMG what are these feeling awakening in me
It was really refreshing how supportive the entire city was of him. The gym dude was like that’s your thing? Cool, you look good.
The whole thing could’ve been cringy or preachy, but it happened in a super positive and accepting way
The remake vs original FFVII strikes me as Rebuild of Evangelion vs Neon Genesis Evangelion, a little.
Lol, I love the abrupt additions and alterations to their outfit during each cut in the intro.
The remake is just so amazing. I can't wait to see how they do Vincent and Yuffie, and Cait Sith's story beats.
did you get a chance to play the DLC Yet?
The visions in the game were wild too. They were what really clued me in - between seeing Aerith's death and Meteor hitting Midgar, I was yelling at the TV every time Cloud's vision went static and the ghosties came out. Also the Jenova Dreamweaver fight was awesome and hearing the music kick in was amazing.
And one of my favorite tiny details in the game was when Cloud first sees Sephiroth in the clone, and he tries to take out his sword, but it hits the top of the doorway. There's so much thought put into the little things of this game and I love so much of it
I’ve ever clicked so fast! Super happy to finally see a new episode of this series!! 👏🏼😆
The visuals and editing with this are just perfection. Holy shit, Cloud dive-bombing Aerith in the church really made me laugh.
I've never even played any FF game nor am I interested in doing so but I just love hearing Jesse deep diving into a game and its lore.
That intro is just the most glorious thing ever!
the completionist bit killed me for some reason
Great video guys! happy you're back
One thing that is important to note about the reach of FF7 is that it was also the first FF game released in Europe. There was no NES or SNES release over here, so my first in towards the series was 7, and that got me into RPG's as a genre.
there are "soliders" in the game, just not named ones just random battles. you fight 3rd class soldiers in the Shinar tower, and 1st class when you return to midgar towards the end of the game.
I'm sorry, Jesse and Santell are just fucking adorable in their bit form, truly.
We need a follow up speculation about intergrade
FFVII remake was honestly the game that made me fall in love with the series. I never had the opportunity to play the original growing up, and largely ignored the series for years. I gave the remake a shot and now I’m playing as much of the series as I can. I can’t wait for Part 2. Great video Jesse as always :)
11:05 GODDAMIT I JUST cried at this scene last week I'm not ready to cry again aaaahhhh
They literally skipped over the whole Jenova part.
Haven't finished this game yet (just hooked up with Aerith in the church), so I'm just gonna leave the like and watch this later. Keep up the good work!
And yes, I have played and finished the original, but what I've heard this one goes bonkers in the end.
6:42 uhm, about that Chocobo fan art...
While I can appreciate the point of view represented about OG ff7, I think there's something to be said about some ambiguity in story telling. I prefer to use my imagination to fill in the blanks than have as much spoon fed to me as they did in R.
I think there are 2 issues at work with some of the ambiguity in FF7 that make it less ambiguous and more a few mistakes of writing and pacing. 1) the translation while better than say FF8 where Squall's dialogue is just removed flat out, still leaves a little to be desired. 2) there's a lot of really important information (see almost everything regarding Zach or Lucretia for example) that you have to actively go way out of your way to find out
31:14 The infamous Attraction Sign, good lord I didn't think Chris was so wide spread
My favourite parts of watching Jesse's playthrough of FF7R was hearing Heidegger and thinking of Bender and seeing Biggs and thinking of Michael Sheen. Also Roche in general.
So happy this series is back, thankyou both so much!
15:50 Jessie does question what happened with the bomb even in the original, it's not as overt as in Remake but if you talk to her in the base under Seventh Heaven she remarks that the explosion was bigger than expected and how she might've miscalculated or something like that. But in the original they do seem to be okay with it and proud of how spectacular it was. Remake took all the little details and hints the original game (and the rest of the Compilation expanded upon) and just put it front and center so people couldn't miss it.
I'm of two minds about it honestly... on the one hand it's nice that people won't miss it but on the other hand the original game really rewarded exploration and talking to people in a way that Remake doesn't do as much. There were pretty big things to find out if you spent the time and put two and two together but now most things are just served up. I like both approaches and it's impossible for me to figure out which is best, they're just different.
Literally everything about every part of this is just absolutely magical. The intro was a stupidly strong start to a delightful Gentleman's Gaming Club experience. Top-notch, gentlemen, thank you.
Jessie did comment about the explosion in the original FF7.
I like that the "ghosts" are not really us, the players, or the "nostalgia" of the players... a lot of people think that they are being controlled by Sephiroth, to keep things in course the same way as OG FF7, because Sephiroth KNOWS what's gonna happen and that he'll lose to Cloud so he somehow went back in time to get everything set up again until one point that he knows he won't lose again. God, this is so GOOD.
Oh but the thing you said Jesse that you never understood, is the Sephiroth vs Cloud final fight: All that happens in Cloud's mind. That's Cloud fighting with the memory of thaman that ruined everything and keeps haunting him, to finally end it for good. But yeah, it's just a representation for Cloud's mental struggle finally ending. Man... what a game, what a story. I love and absolutely adore this. 💖💖💖💖💖
"A lot of people think that they are being controlled by Sephiroth, to keep things in course the same way as OG FF7, because Sephiroth KNOWS what's gonna happen and that he'll lose to Cloud so he somehow went back in time to get everything set up again until one point that he knows he won't lose again."
That's interesting, I see it as the exact opposite: The ghosts were keeping things on track, for better (ensuring Barret survives Shinra tower) or worse (ensuring the plate drops). Thing is, ultimately, the "track" included Sephiroth losing. I see this as "Sephiroth just manipulated the heroes into beating the Whispers and unchaining everyone from the plot that was set in stone." Now that they're gone, anything goes, and he can change things around so he'll actually win this time. Your victory is no longer a foregone conclusion, and the things you took for granted about FF7's story will no longer necessarily be true.
I only played the original, and this here is blowing my mind
Both gentlemens series are a joy to watch, even if i dont know about the subject you two are so passionate about your thoughts! Excited to see more from you guys
oh my god, it's happening... gentleman's gaming club is BAAAACK
THIS EPISODE IS SO GOOD!! Holy cow I loved it. I played the first disc of FFVII original, but I never got to play anything more. I had a lot of the story points spoiled for me but I never really understood a whole lot of it. But you guys going through piece by piece was so awesome! I loved played FF VIIR, the game is absolutely incredible but I missed a lot of those little pieces that you guys pointed out in this video. So thank you so much for doing this one! I intend to play VIIR 2 when it comes out but I really hope you guys make another of these for that game when it finally happens.
They're back! Get this video to the moon baby we got them diamond hands!
Everyone please spread this video around. This series deserves success
Can I make a VTuber joke? Yes? Okay I'll make a VTuber joke.
Wow what a great VTuber debut fellas!!
You swung and hit a home run with this one guys. Massive kudos!
I'm glad you guys didn't spoil my favorite moment in the Remake, despite this video being an hour long.
So this game ended up being perfectly made for me because I have never been able to finish the entirety of FF7. I knew the story and the twists etc by the time I got around to it, so every time I've started I've gotten just past Midgar and quit because it's so long and there's nothing to find out and hold me. With the remake, I knew the Midgar section so I got the changes and the weirdness but now I get to experience the new bits with everyone else!
oh man the meta theory crafting in this video is so good! i never played the original FF7 so i figured the ghosts were normal in both games! very intriguing theory!
You got to remember, back then before you moved forward, you had make sure you didn't miss any secrets, special items, or monsters.
There was no backtracking at some points, so if you missed it, you had start over. A lot of stuff was hidden with no hints, and some bosses had stuff to obtain before moving on.
Enemy skills were like today's games where they quest you into collecting. That paranoia made Midgar take a while. Once you knew the game, you could B-line it in no time.
Story wise as we slowly played, the game would give us pieces, hints, and clues. Kids were smart, we didn't know the exact details, but we understood how this world worked as we played.
Jesse, Jesus: the very very last Sephiroth fight at the end of the original FF7 is Cloud fighting the remaining Jenova in his body. You don't actually go to a real place or location or anything.
The jolt of panic I felt when I saw THAT edited photo of ..."barret" talk about unlocking a hidden memory
I know it'll be covered later, but the church scene with Reno: Cloud is about to kill Reno and before the ghosts even show up, Aerith says "Cloud, no!" with this look of absolute horror. Not the horror of just watching someone murder another. She knew what effect that would have on the timeline.
The only question is, was it to preserve the timeline, or was it just to prevent the ghosts from manifesting and interfering with her own plan, whatever that may have been?
20:00 Exactly! I've been saying that for years! Aerith loves what she saw of Zach in him, not actually Cloud.
I think that's what makes her fall for him almost instantly. However Zach is way more outgoing and happy go lucky. I think Aerith begins getting attached to who Cloud really is around Wall Market, and fully by Shinra.
I think the biggest problem with that and why its confusing to some from OG FF7 is so much of the Zach stuff (and frankly a lot of important background information) is hidden away in sidequests and some stuff you have to go out of your way to find, so some people missed it
Nailed it once again, fellow gents! Jesse, Michael and the animator/editor that made this all possible considering the times we live in - you all absolutely CRUSHED it in this video. I...admit that I'm pretty late to the party on this one, but damn guys...this was a good one. I was honestly terrified that this was all put on hold until Corona cleared up - but now that we got you're amazing 32-bit selves in the picture and the quality is STILL incredible, I cannot tell you how much it means to have you guys back in town. You're all simply incredible, cheers! And stay safe - for the love of God or whoever you pray to, stay safe.
whoa, that ME soundtrack at 42:50 hit me hard :D
Amazing episode, gentlemen!
Oh crap I was wondering why I recognize it. I thought it might be Star Wars. Thanks for this.
This is one of the best videos I've seen on RUclips for quite sometime - by far the best gaming video. Jesse, & co, really great job guys and gals.
that completionist lawsuit, HAHAHA
These 32 bit polygon models are THE BEST
I think something most people didn't realise or glossed over is that FF7R is more similar to a Yakuza game than anything else (Yakuza being a JRPG-lite brawler for most of its series).
Even the Honey Bee Inn dance sequence is like a glossier, but mechanically simplified version of the idol dance concerts in Yakuza 5.
Welcome back gentlemen
Great video! Just one tiny addition that I only happen to be aware of because I played the original after the demo for the remake: In preparing for the launch, I played the original game on Switch (for a bit at least), and I noticed that Jessie *does* worry about whether she caused more damage than intended. You can talk to her in the hideout and she's like "Look at the news, think that's all because of my bomb? But I only did it like it said in the instructions! Must have made an error somewhere" or something along those lines. However, this is an easily missable bit and is, as far as I am aware, never mentioned again. So the intention was there, but it wasn't fleshed out in the original at all. The only thing I remember it now is because I also thought it was *not* in the game until playing it again now and it stood out.
Also, I absolutely loved the game, although I always found it strange that they'd specifically call it a remake in the title, and even now refer to the next part as FF7 Remake part 2.
But all this talk about the game being meta and dealing with the player's nostalgia feelings inside the story and all that made me think whether the title is in on that? As in, it plays with your expectations of what you think it means, but it's not a remake of the game - rather it refers to the characters inside the game *remaking* the timeline and the world into something different.
Or am I getting too far into tinfoil-hat territory now and it was just a title that matched what people expected (and maybe even what the project started as)?
I actually really appreciated this. I usually do, but here especially. Nothing like good analysis/discussion.
OMG!!! First video back and it's Finale Fantasy 7!!!
The part when you guys talk about how EVERYONE wants to bang Cloud had me lmfao 😂🤣😆
With Red13's 500 years later scene from the original I always assumed it was just that people moved out of Midgar and gave up on Mako that's all. Also the Zack scene at the end doesn't have to mean he is alive because across the various expansions he has died in a few different places. In fact in one of them he does just outside the Gate from a sniper shot. It could be that he is still dead and that the past is the past up until cloud arrives in Midgar. Also Areith may have sensed Zacks spirit at that point
My absolute favourite series on YT!
Next video should be on Lost Odyssey!
this was such a good video that tho ive been hearing people rave about this game this video really put into perspective WHAT it so great about it. the deep dive without too much information is fantastic and the very obvious connections you two both have is wonderful. i hope you guys will look into the yakuza series seeing how recently ive gotten into it.
19:49 Your welcom
42:31 Yes! I had the exact same though playing the game, I definitely thought those whispers were all the fans of the original game wanting everything to happen exactly the way it did before.
Fyi in that last fight with sephiroth in the original you are supposed to be pulled into the lifestream where you are pulled into the dark. Also you have 7 seconds to attack him before he attacks you if you don't attack him he takes you down to 1 hp and Cloud automatically does omnislash
31:14 that Chris chan reference is so good it should be a crime.
Night Sky Prince and Soldier 1st Class is somewhere in the corner crying purist tears.
57:50
I see someone didn't look through the bathroom air vents when they were crawling through them in the Shinra HQ.
Literally soft locked the game. If you hadn't saved in a while... oof.
Aerith knows everything and is the mastermind behind everything, in Final Fantasy VII Re(do) you won't save her, she turns out to be the villain and you have to team up with Sephiroth to kill her yourself.
Once again, nice neat video
Does the whispers slash ghosts represented the weird moments and uncontrolled actions in the original? Like one part cloud did stuff as if a shadow version of him controled him to do other things. When sephiroth kills the whispers he changed the future ans the past according tp the zack and cloud entering midgar instead of cloud alone, probably your actions now can be set that you save aerith but she never releases her materia but also one of the avalanche members survive.
When I first played the game and that church part with the Whispers saving Aerith happens, my assumption was that they are essentially the fans of FF7. They are narrators of fate sort of thing and dictate what MUST happen. All the evidence was there whenever detours from the original happened. Given Nomura was in charge, I really believed it was their way of referencing the fans and the pressure the devs are put under to try to make it a shot for shot recreation of the original. Turns out, it was semi-right, though no confirmation on the 4th wall aspect of it being the players lol.
This was a great discussion and I really enjoyed it!
....but hell house was phenomenal.
I'm still jealous that cloud in a dress and braids is a thousand times hotter than I will ever be. Like damn!
ay the only club that matters (well one of two, both for gentlemen) is back
Good timing since he just learned that Weiss from Dirge of Cerberus will be in the upcoming DLC.
Whelp, ya did it. You guys are the ones who convinced me to give FF7 Remake a shot.