The drummer who INSPIRED the Foundation Series - Jonathan Greene
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- Опубликовано: 29 июн 2024
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0:00 - intro
2:13 - The inspiration for these cymbals
9:28 - Inspiring vs. functional cymbals
16:20 - What vintage cymbals ACTUALLY were
19:14 - Live reaction to an in-process Foundation ride
21:01 - The Foundation ALLOY
23:36 - Jonathan playing his FULL set 
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This guy plays beautiful. The cymbals compliment his playing in a nice and supporting way (or maybe the otherway around) The conversation was very insightful
loved this discussion! I remember going to see Bill Stewart last year and we were telling him how great his ride sounded... afterwards we went on stage and hit the ride while it was on the kit... so different!
Very insightful and informative! Your look of pleasure watching him play your creations Tim! You now have me thinking of all the traits in the ride I’ve been seeking for many, many years!
Awesome video! Love that it became an interview and conversation. The playing was great and the cymbals sound amazing!
2 things came to mind.
1) I had a set of AAX X-Celerator (sound edge) hats and they were so clangy and loud and brutal to play. I sold them to my buddy who owns a studio and teaches so he played them everyday. Came back a year later and they were the smoothest, buttery, clean hihats and sounded incredible. He refused to sell them back lol
2) I heard from a Yoda of drum and especially jazz history that earlier on Elvin used Giant beats which is why so many people hunting his sound never get it right
Wow, that's interesting. Had no idea about the giant beats.
Really cool man. I look forward to having a few made. Great playing too. Enjoyed the tech talk on cymbals and especially frequency. Not taking up the other instruments space. I really think how you set in the mix is everything. Great job pointing that out and explaining it in a way people will understand. Knowing what’s going to bleed over in cool way and what’s just too much. You guys know what you’re talking about. Bravo my brother.
Thanks a ton!
You guys are talking cymbals and I'm in love with that bass drum note
haha me too!
Really interesting discussion...and cool playing at the end.
Jonathan is awesome!
Thumbnail should be amazing drummers with amazing cymbals 👌🏻👌🏻👌🏻🗣️🗣️🗣️🗣️
Great video. Awesome sound and conversation.
congratulations! those sound great.
These sound amazing!
Great to hear both of your perspectives on characteristics and colors of cymbals. I agree that there are cymbals you can play without thinking until you get to the picky one that only wants to be used in a certain way with a specific amount of intensity until you’re creating a monster and getting in the way of melodic tones between guitar, keys, or vocals.
Great stuff, in recent times I seem to have come to the opinion that the biggest impact on how much I like the timbre of a drum/cymbal is the room in which I'm playing, and the context in which I am playing it.
I have got plenty of examples, but honestly the point is that everything has a time and place... And as much as we would probably hate to admit it as modern drummers who love everything dry, dark, and airy - those cymbals are not for everything (probably best in a controlled studio environment, where you really want the tightest sound you can get), and sometimes heavier cymbals just sing in exactly the right way.
These look great, and Jhonathan is fantastic. Cheers!
Totally agree!
Great discussion. Since I started gigging in jazz, I sold every "jazz" ride I owned because they just didn't work at all live. I still like pretty, airy sounds, but they need to have a bit of bite and definition to be functional
I really relate to the point about the difference between a microphone or an audience and sitting behind a kit. I just sold a 22” Bosphorus groove ride, and looking back on it, I really miss it. It had a few wild hums but they didn’t carry into the mic’s or the audience at all when I look at recordings, and it had a beautiful combination of a solid stick sound and a nice crashable taper. It feels like the one that got away lol. Your foundation series sounds amazing! I might use my Christmas bonus this year and see what you’ve put out around that time!
Thanks for watching! I know what you mean about the "one that got away". I have a few of those myself.
Very Jack DeJohnette! Very well done! I am not a fan of the cymbal sound...but definitely a fan of how this fellow played them! Not the fault of the cymbals...I just don't prefer such dry cymbals.
Listening to the conversation here reminds me of an experience I had in the 90s, involving Steve Gadd. If memory serves me adequately here, Gadd was playing a Zildjian Custom Session Ride at the time. I heard it in recordings and it sounded so nice, so perfect, so right in the hands of Gadd. Sounded perfect!...until I played it myself....and playing the same cymbal type myself, my sticks on the cymbal...awful. Sounded awesome on the recording....awful in person. The conditions of the recording and the vibe of the group playing must be considered...and that is hard for the cymbal maker to deal with...so they need to talk to the musicians...that need to also be aware of these conditions. It's tricky!
Yep! That's so true!
Your description of the big and ugly sabians is my general impression of sabians in general. Paragons and that Omni ride maybe excluded.
😂 Technically a Timothy Roberts cymbal artist.... Nice demo 🔥🔥
Jeeezz tight!
Lots of that air that one feels in the old recordings is just white noise from the tape or vinyl
Me too!
The 20” all the way to his left… very Real McCoy… Elvin
Timothy…shoot me an email on that 21.5” if it’s available. I know you’re working on my Zildjian A mod, but I also like this new Foundation master! Thx. Dean
Hey Dean! That 21.5 is already spoken for but I can make another like it!
talking bout heavier rides.. ruclips.net/video/XQuNtOlQxIc/видео.html
Ian Froman.. Paul Francis always mentioned the heavier rides.. (Tony)
Yeah! That's a beefy one!