When M14 Meets M16: The Fort Ellis XR-86 Frankenrifle

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    This rifle is the home shop creation of one Wilfred Ellis, a talented gunsmith form Pennsylvania. It is basically a combination of an M14 gas system with an AR15 bolt and locking system, plus an in-line tubular receiver, M60 flash hider, and side-mounted magazine. Not exactly the sort of thing that will replace the M4 in military service, but an example of the sort of fun gunsmithing projects that you can put together just because it seems interesting to try. Neat!
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  • @Tobascodagama
    @Tobascodagama 5 лет назад +5572

    Actually, Frankenrifle was the name of the gunsmith, you're thinking of Frankenrifle's monster.

  • @Hybris51129
    @Hybris51129 5 лет назад +1501

    This is probably the cleanest looking improvised firearm ever.

    • @garywheeler7039
      @garywheeler7039 4 года назад +72

      The side mounted magazine keeps itself out of the dirt a little better also. Easier to fire over the side of a trench or parapet. Could use extra long magazines as well. I like the simplicity. Although the but stock is a bit lame.

    • @isaacnewston4667
      @isaacnewston4667 4 года назад +29

      @@garywheeler7039 also easier to shoot when you prone.

    • @Fireclaws10
      @Fireclaws10 4 года назад +20

      Isaac Newston not so much. It’s nice to monopod when prone by resting on the magazine

    • @garywheeler7039
      @garywheeler7039 4 года назад +5

      @@Fireclaws10 Did not know that.

    • @anderoo9260
      @anderoo9260 4 года назад +1

      @@Fireclaws10 What about malfunctions?

  • @steveanderson9290
    @steveanderson9290 5 лет назад +2305

    With that tour, Ian just doubled the value of that gun.

    • @johnmitchell923
      @johnmitchell923 5 лет назад +212

      Touched by gun Jesus

    • @Arthurzeiro
      @Arthurzeiro 5 лет назад +166

      @@johnmitchell923 *Blessed by

    • @charliejoker79
      @charliejoker79 5 лет назад +36

      "With that tour, Ian just doubled the value of that gun."
      2 times $0 is still $0. Can't for the life of me understand why someone would buy this. I get why it is cool, but why it's worth actual money today eludes me. Maybe as inspiration for your own project as Ian said.

    • @steveanderson9290
      @steveanderson9290 5 лет назад +64

      "Cool" is clearly worth big money to many. Myself, every gun I have must fulfill a purpose, and "cool" isn't enough. I often despair that I am that way, but it does save me a ton of money. I predict that someone will pay north of $3k for that rifle, but it won't be me (or you, who apparently suffers from the same malady I do :-) .)

    • @jackandersen1262
      @jackandersen1262 5 лет назад +5

      Candice Juliano Shooting quite possibly for the parts.

  • @carlrasmussen3267
    @carlrasmussen3267 4 года назад +302

    Will Ellis was my mentor of sorts. I was much younger, getting into shooting and hunting. A father figure who mad my reloads for my 30-06 and .223. I was, as well as many others including my father-in-law, mesmerized by the stories of his time as an Abington, PA policeman. Captivating man. A man who had tragedy strike his family with the death of one daughter rehabbing from her car accident injuries. Threw a clot, I believe. Another daughter, Jeanie, died from complications from diabetes. I was in "Fort Ellis" a few times where he kept his vast collection of firearms, etc. More relics in his house basement where he did his reloading. To the best of my knowledge, he died from a fall from the roof of his Fort installing a vent for a bathroom he was putting in. I reload my own ammo and think of him often. His wife, Phyllis, who is now remarried, is as sweet a lady as you'll ever meet. Ate wild game dinners at their house in Abington with friends and family. I keep his hand-written loads recipes and have a priceless picture of him. RIP Will. You were a genius.

    • @1DEADBEEF1
      @1DEADBEEF1 2 года назад +22

      Thank you for sharing this lovely story!!

    • @robertborgeson1821
      @robertborgeson1821 2 месяца назад +1

      Very cool. I see your post is many years old but I'm just seeing this video for the first time. Do you have any knowledge of this specific firearm? I posted elsewhere in the thread my question but I'll ask you directly; any idea why he went with the side mount magazine? To me, the point of this Frankenstein is to get the (arguably)superior gas system of the m14 onto an AR-15. He could have left the receiver in its original orientation and just had the charging handle run out the top like a famas. With his skill I'm sure he had many options and the magwell on the side just seems odd to me. Thought?

  • @ArchieKeen1
    @ArchieKeen1 5 лет назад +1030

    This rifle deserves to be used on the range

    • @Dirtbag-Hyena
      @Dirtbag-Hyena 5 лет назад +6

      @@stanleyjedrzejczyk2966 Good play on words👏👏
      Its not THAT ugly....Is it🙂

    • @coleoshtamebaghe3606
      @coleoshtamebaghe3606 5 лет назад +46

      It's a really clever design. I'm surprised this didn't influence the design of more guns.

    • @facelesscovers763
      @facelesscovers763 5 лет назад +30

      @@coleoshtamebaghe3606
      Actually the FG-42 is a German machine gun that certainly inspired this.

    • @Killer553
      @Killer553 5 лет назад +13

      @@facelesscovers763
      Not necessarily FG42.
      There were also other weapons of similar design like Johnson LMG which interestingly looks very similar to FG42,was made a bit earlier i think,but the reason for similar design was that both guns were created in an attempt to solve similar problems.
      Also MG13 was a thing before FG42.

    • @jackykwan3241
      @jackykwan3241 5 лет назад +1

      @@coleoshtamebaghe3606 I was thinking of L2A3

  • @alexion2001
    @alexion2001 5 лет назад +673

    most popular weapons of the Vietnam era smashed together.

    • @iamstewpit6740
      @iamstewpit6740 5 лет назад +39

      *cough cough*
      AK47

    • @alexion2001
      @alexion2001 5 лет назад +75

      @@iamstewpit6740 most popular US weapons of the Vietnam era*

    • @iamstewpit6740
      @iamstewpit6740 5 лет назад +8

      The M60 and M1911 would still probably replace the M14.

    • @alexion2001
      @alexion2001 5 лет назад +23

      @@iamstewpit6740 excuse me, for the better part of the war the M14 was the primary battle rifle of the marines due to budget cuts and it was also the weapon of choice for most marksmen in all branches and it was the navy service rifle, I reckon its more popular than the M60 which is a machine gun and the 1911 even tho its used to this day I don't even count as famous simply because its been the favourite sidearm since WW1 so its more of a standard than a famous weapon.

    • @iamstewpit6740
      @iamstewpit6740 5 лет назад +1

      @@alexion2001 I meant the M60 and M1911 would replace the M14 in terms of popularity.

  • @StevieB8363
    @StevieB8363 5 лет назад +66

    This is the master gunsmith version of me cooking dinner from whatever I have leftover in the fridge. The fact that it actually worked is testament to his skill.

  • @netpackrat
    @netpackrat 5 лет назад +10

    One real mark of the builder's craftsmanship is in how easily it disassembled for Ian. We've all seen "legit" arsenal built prototypes on this channel that did not come apart nearly as smoothly, or that he was afraid to attempt to take apart.

  • @RamadaArtist
    @RamadaArtist 5 лет назад +388

    So, more or less a twisted AR15 with short-stroke instead of direct impingement. I can actually see why someone would want that. This thing is genuinely pretty cool.

    • @neutronalchemist3241
      @neutronalchemist3241 5 лет назад +24

      The project is neat for being something made for fun, but, since he was at it, it's weird that he simply didn't rotate the M14 gas system 180° so to have the gas piston at hour 12. That way he could have mantained the entire AR15 lower as it was.

    • @jic1
      @jic1 5 лет назад +23

      @@neutronalchemist3241 I don't think he had a complete AR15 lower when he started that.

    • @joshualance6005
      @joshualance6005 5 лет назад +1

      It was long stroke not short stroke

    • @neutronalchemist3241
      @neutronalchemist3241 5 лет назад +7

      @@joshualance6005 the M14 gas system is short stroke.

    • @neutronalchemist3241
      @neutronalchemist3241 5 лет назад

      @@jic1 It seems he had at least an handle and a trigger group.

  • @leszekkadelski9569
    @leszekkadelski9569 5 лет назад +396

    So a "what if" scenario in which the Khyber Pass is located in Pennsylvania ;)

    • @andrewsuryali8540
      @andrewsuryali8540 5 лет назад +31

      American mystery rifle.

    • @uraniumrock8381
      @uraniumrock8381 5 лет назад +43

      Western PA is already basically white Afghanistan

    • @ronaldcolman6211
      @ronaldcolman6211 5 лет назад +3

      @@uraniumrock8381 Not Western Pa, this is about 5 minutes outside Philadelphia. I kind of want to track down the builder for an interview.

    • @uraniumrock8381
      @uraniumrock8381 5 лет назад +1

      @@ronaldcolman6211 I live in North Philly, I pray to God we don't start making our own workshop assault weapons. But yeah, id love to see an interview with the builder, the weapon is really cool.

    • @mr.anderson9938
      @mr.anderson9938 5 лет назад

      Stanley Jedrzejczyk 😭 they are so mean 😢 wahh!

  • @lindsleycravensii2985
    @lindsleycravensii2985 5 лет назад +135

    I laughed my ass off when he said “the spring lives in here.”
    Loved it

  • @TheSuburban15
    @TheSuburban15 5 лет назад +337

    In 1986 nobody knew what a Picatinny rail was. That's probably a Weaver rail.

    • @jimhans1
      @jimhans1 5 лет назад +62

      Weaver produced rails have rounded bottoms in the cross slots, so while this isn’t a weaver produced rail itself, it also isn’t a pic rail obviously due to the vintage, but it looks like pic mounts would work if they only have one cross bar.

    • @danielguenel9192
      @danielguenel9192 5 лет назад +2

      _Suburban_ how old its picatinny btw?

    • @jimhans1
      @jimhans1 5 лет назад +43

      Daniel Guenel design was started in 1992 and standardized on 03Feb95 as Mil-STD-1913.

    • @danielguenel9192
      @danielguenel9192 5 лет назад +7

      jimhans1 thks

    • @theonlymann1485
      @theonlymann1485 5 лет назад +8

      Weaver rail only came in 2nd because it came 2fast2quick and nobody saw the need for customization for optics till the 90s. Amd they remade that into Pikatinny rail.
      Also for compatibility reasons the Weaber and the Pikatinny do have simillar structure thus accessories are compatible exepect for some modifications.

  • @Ikarias1
    @Ikarias1 5 лет назад +2561

    Don't show this to Bethesda...

    • @Kargush
      @Kargush 5 лет назад +204

      Imagine the result if Bethesda got into gun manufacturing. The Rogak P18 would look like a Holland & Holland product in comparison.

    • @Ikarias1
      @Ikarias1 5 лет назад +86

      Well, now it all makes sence... Bethesda is Brazil of gaming!

    • @TheRealMinotaur667
      @TheRealMinotaur667 5 лет назад +33

      @@sternencolonel7328 76 is actually quite enjoyable both solo and with friends. No, it's not the same as the other games, but it was never intended to be the same. It was always supposed to be different. People really need to get over their petty issues with it and learn to just enjoy it for what it is. And what is it? It's an incredibly enjoyable gaming experience that very much so feels like Fallout.

    • @danielfarr1971
      @danielfarr1971 5 лет назад +127

      Honestly this would be a better assault rifle then the one they chose for Fallout 4. Because you know, it's NOT a chunky .308 Machine gun.
      Although they would place the Magazine well, ejection port and charging handle all on the left side of the gun just for annoyance.

    • @duachim
      @duachim 5 лет назад +4

      Thats exactly what he needs to do

  • @SinisterGerbils
    @SinisterGerbils 5 лет назад +174

    "Hold my beer." - Wilfred Ellis, 1986

  • @k-anon1945
    @k-anon1945 5 лет назад +262

    m14's gas block + FAL's handguard & charging handle + M16's Receiver + unidentified carrying handle(with sights) = what you seeing now. holy...

    • @TheRealMinotaur667
      @TheRealMinotaur667 5 лет назад +7

      Carrying handle looks very similar to the Russian A-91 or the Ash-12.7

    • @Nathan-jh1ho
      @Nathan-jh1ho 5 лет назад +9

      and m60 flash hider

    • @lucianene7741
      @lucianene7741 5 лет назад +10

      = sort of an FG-42

    • @MrDmitriRavenoff
      @MrDmitriRavenoff 5 лет назад +2

      I just wonder why his optics rail is 3" above the barrel....

    • @nikolairuskanov787
      @nikolairuskanov787 5 лет назад +2

      @Lassi Kinnunen Reminds me of that ljeutic (sp?) space gun

  • @Owlpunk
    @Owlpunk 5 лет назад +299

    This is actually a really cool rifle, imo. Looks like a modernized FG42 :D

    • @shawnr771
      @shawnr771 5 лет назад +22

      Would be cool to modify to belt feed.

    • @vacomments
      @vacomments 5 лет назад +4

      Exactly!

    • @poika22
      @poika22 5 лет назад +3

      Modern in the 80s

    • @DFXedra2122
      @DFXedra2122 2 года назад +5

      Exactly what I thought when I saw it

    • @dayshon124
      @dayshon124 2 года назад +9

      It's like Stoner Let stoners into the boardroom lmao, this thing is hideous but I bet it's efficient.

  • @criffermaclennan
    @criffermaclennan 5 лет назад +944

    And gun jesus did look upon the platypus gun and did wonder wtf...but gun jesus looked closer and saw that, whilst weird, it was indeed good.... Praise be

  • @LOUDcarBOMB
    @LOUDcarBOMB 5 лет назад +125

    Ian, please show more guns like this that are made/designed by amateur/competant people. Its odd and/or interesting guns like this is where others can see very experimental designs tried out very interesting.

    • @I_like_turtles_67
      @I_like_turtles_67 4 года назад +6

      He did the Barret 50 cal a while ago. That's a good one if you haven't watched it yet.

  • @jerrykendall2426
    @jerrykendall2426 5 лет назад +85

    Mechanicly it's genius,
    For practical reasons it's basicly licking windows.

  • @cheesyweedhead4020
    @cheesyweedhead4020 5 лет назад +215

    it looks like an m16 and fg42 had a baby

  • @merten0083
    @merten0083 5 лет назад +164

    This is the kind of gun you would make in MGSV after finding the Master Gunsmith

    • @bomric1788
      @bomric1788 5 лет назад +1

      My thoughts exactly!

    • @alexlemus2559
      @alexlemus2559 2 года назад +1

      To bad peace walker had real gun and parts like 357 had a 4x lol

  • @hellpimp
    @hellpimp 5 лет назад +38

    "Your gunsmiths were so preoccupied with whether they could, they didn't stop to think if they should."
    Naw.... I love all shooty things.

  • @PsychoDad89
    @PsychoDad89 5 лет назад +71

    1986 in Pennsylvania:
    Mayor: You can't go through with this, this is madness.
    Ellis: Yeah, what ever
    2 days later
    Ellis: IT'S ALIVE, IT'S ALIIIVE
    *pop pop pop*

  • @kevinoconnor9009
    @kevinoconnor9009 4 года назад +5

    I actually worked on the PD with Will. Fort Ellis was a cool firearms collection, some of which Will had made himself, like tanker garands. I actually still have 2 PPC guns he rebarreled and tuned for me.

  • @Mongo63a
    @Mongo63a 5 лет назад +200

    When gunsmiths are bored, this is what you get.

  • @slice1208
    @slice1208 5 лет назад +529

    Hmm that would be cooler if it was 9mm with a suppressor . Then you could call it a frankensten .

  • @publicservice08to10
    @publicservice08to10 5 лет назад +51

    Absolutely love the weird and wonderful creations of firearm designs like this. makes me wonder what other strange home-brew weapons designs are lurking out in the world.

    • @jonathanstancil8544
      @jonathanstancil8544 5 лет назад +4

      And just how many fingers and eyes were sacrificed during development.

    • @publicservice08to10
      @publicservice08to10 5 лет назад +4

      @@jonathanstancil8544 Evidently enough to appease the powers that be to gift him one functional rifle that didn't immediately detonate upon firing the first round.

  • @derekhenschel3191
    @derekhenschel3191 5 лет назад +1032

    When 1940's Germany gets an m4 from the future

    • @derekhenschel3191
      @derekhenschel3191 5 лет назад +3

      @@taimermega6447 lol

    • @borismuller86
      @borismuller86 5 лет назад +21

      Wolfenstein?

    • @mamadazadmard2429
      @mamadazadmard2429 5 лет назад +35

      IT awfully looks like the fg42. Imagine a paratrooper gun for 1940s America.

    • @jonbrown7868
      @jonbrown7868 4 года назад +3

      But it doesnt fire open bolt on full auto...

    • @jonbrown7868
      @jonbrown7868 4 года назад +1

      Could larger caliber uppers run .308 if you rotate it 90° and dump brass out of the mag well on a standard ar?

  • @davebrunero5529
    @davebrunero5529 5 лет назад +49

    If it we're $500 at a show I would pull out the cash... Between an estimated $3750-$5000 it is too rich for my blood...
    However, I would love a copy of the design to try and build my own...

  • @CrysResan
    @CrysResan 5 лет назад +15

    It's a "Because I can/ To see if I can" gun.
    I once saw a, albeit grainy video of a guy who made an auto ejecting 9 mm Ruger vaquero I think it was. It was still single action but as soon as you fired a round the last case got ejected out of the cylinder. It had a mechanism that would Rube Goldberg blush.

  • @TheSuburban15
    @TheSuburban15 5 лет назад +94

    Maybe important to explain to younger viewers that in 1986 there were maybe 20 or 30 something cable channels, definitely no internet, and video games were really just in the early stages of infancy. To buy an AR-15 meant buying a Colt for what in today's dollar would probably be something like $1200+ for a plain vanilla model. Imported AKs were cheap, and we still had Chinese ammo for them which was cheap as dirt, but few people wanted anything to do with those.

    • @shawnr771
      @shawnr771 5 лет назад +13

      Adjust for inflation $400 dollars in 1986 is $900 dollars today.

    • @joshualance6005
      @joshualance6005 5 лет назад +4

      Yes so 1200$ then wild be like 2700$ in 1986

    • @Ideo7Z
      @Ideo7Z 5 лет назад +15

      FALs and HK rifles had been in the country for quite some time and were reasonably priced. But hardly anybody outside of the hardcore gun nuts were buying them.

    • @TheSuburban15
      @TheSuburban15 5 лет назад +3

      @@shawnr771 Where are you getting that a Colt AR was $400 in 1986?

    • @shawnr771
      @shawnr771 5 лет назад +7

      @@TheSuburban15 I could have bought one in 1989 for 400 dollars plus a 50 dollar assembly near Ft Polk LA. I did not buy one then.

  • @NoTimeForThatNow
    @NoTimeForThatNow 5 лет назад +29

    That gun is genius, definitely a point of pride for the maker.

  • @cg8212
    @cg8212 5 лет назад +24

    It's like someone wanted an FG42, but couldn't get one.

  • @PercivalBlakeney
    @PercivalBlakeney 3 года назад +2

    Sort of reminds me of the scene in The Good, The Bad and The Ugly, when Tuco (Eli Wallach) goes into the gun shop and starts putting a revolver together.

  • @wilhufftarkin8543
    @wilhufftarkin8543 5 лет назад +1019

    I bet the guy who made this spends hours on Pimp My Gun every day

    • @idontwanttoputmyname403
      @idontwanttoputmyname403 5 лет назад +60

      That's a blast from the past.

    • @owainrichards4372
      @owainrichards4372 5 лет назад +34

      I used to spend ages on that game haha

    • @thatguy1080
      @thatguy1080 5 лет назад +20

      Has there ever been another game like it since? As in, something that's had active support?

    • @DylanMcCubbin123
      @DylanMcCubbin123 5 лет назад +4

      @@thatguy1080 sadly no.

    • @FairlyUnknown
      @FairlyUnknown 5 лет назад +17

      @@thatguy1080 Sadly not, and even if someone did make one, I bet Apple would take it down within hours and not even allow something like that on the app store.

  • @homegunsmithunger598
    @homegunsmithunger598 5 лет назад +5

    Interesting rifle, thanks for showing it!
    I am currently working on a .22lr with an AKM wood stock and an M16 grip, I need to save time for rather unimportant parts, because my free time is very limited. Maybe that was also his reason to build it with so many existing parts, beside his normal job.

  • @moelll
    @moelll 5 лет назад +9

    You see when an AR-15 and M-14 love each other very much....

  • @ianmacfarlane1241
    @ianmacfarlane1241 5 лет назад +164

    That's nothing......you should see my Kalashnizooka.

  • @AllAhabNoMoby
    @AllAhabNoMoby 5 лет назад +228

    "It is of course a semi-auto..." Yeah but it's a full semi-auto.

    • @jic1
      @jic1 5 лет назад +19

      With the bit that goes up.

    • @ThetaReactor
      @ThetaReactor 5 лет назад +27

      You say "of course", but if I were home-building a rifle in early 1986 I'd be all over that last-minute NFA registration.

    • @AllAhabNoMoby
      @AllAhabNoMoby 5 лет назад +2

      I was quoting Ian but you make a good point.

    • @brudibrudi992
      @brudibrudi992 5 лет назад +11

      And it has this flash hiding flashhider thingy that makes the shooter invisible and it can has big bullet box and one deathbullet per trigger pull and itsn ASSAULT RIFLE omffffffffg

    • @smallerfreeze
      @smallerfreeze 4 года назад +1

      Anything is anything. -metal file and elbow grease

  • @ToxMace
    @ToxMace 5 лет назад +4

    When a master gunsmith tells you to, "Hold my beer and watch this!" you need to death grip that can with both hands and try not to cry at what you're about to witness.

  • @nfsfanAndrew
    @nfsfanAndrew 5 лет назад +12

    Kinda looks like someone challenged him and said "bet you can't make a functioning gun from the junk in this parts bin"
    And sir ellis responded "hold my beer watch this."

  • @brnrubber303
    @brnrubber303 5 лет назад +13

    Happy Thanksgiving everyone. Good to see an Ellis gun!

  • @michealunrau5613
    @michealunrau5613 5 лет назад +20

    I now know what project I'm doing 2019...

  • @korisosuke2154
    @korisosuke2154 5 лет назад +14

    “Get that rod at full extension”

  • @thegoldencaulk2742
    @thegoldencaulk2742 5 лет назад +16

    Oh I remember this. I saw it at Poulin Auctions a few months back. I have a feeling that it's back for sale so soon because it doesn't work all that well...

  • @williamschoenfeld1773
    @williamschoenfeld1773 5 лет назад +12

    It's things like this rifle and the story that excite and inspire me. Thanks for sharing Ian, appreciate all the effort.
    At this point i've seen enough watermelons blow up or "what if we shoot this thing with a random gun" videos.

  • @jacob9229
    @jacob9229 5 лет назад +324

    Why wasn't this in Star Wars?

    • @LadyAnuB
      @LadyAnuB 5 лет назад +25

      1986. Jedi was 1983 so it wasn't around in time.

    • @SuperAWaC
      @SuperAWaC 5 лет назад +25

      also there was only one of them made, the prop guns in star wars were all common guns

    • @Spystreak
      @Spystreak 5 лет назад +14

      Because metal guns are too menacing for mouse eared millennials

    • @Spystreak
      @Spystreak 5 лет назад +12

      @dar'man beskar Ordo To me it died with the old EU I'll take the Yuuzhan Vong invasion over Darth Danzig and Supreme cancer patient Snoke anyday

    • @MicTheOni
      @MicTheOni 5 лет назад +10

      It does look like a gun straight from Star Wars

  • @maverick9708
    @maverick9708 3 года назад

    The glorious craftsmanship of the Elbonian small arms industry. Looks like a fun piece

  • @erickwon8528
    @erickwon8528 5 лет назад +1600

    So it's just a plasticky cheap version of an FG-42.

    • @LazyLifeIFreak
      @LazyLifeIFreak 5 лет назад +165

      Nah, its been corrupted by cthulhu.

    • @tmseh
      @tmseh 5 лет назад +88

      @@LazyLifeIFreak Do not speak of the Old Ones in jest lest you are willing to sacrifice your putrid flesh.😨
      Hey, happy Thanksgiving!

    • @jamesmckenna1179
      @jamesmckenna1179 5 лет назад +9

      It has the same obnoxious butt stock😂

    • @masondyer1625
      @masondyer1625 5 лет назад +19

      It’s not a copy but I’d say he might have got the idea of a side magazine from the FG42 or another historic gun with the same set up.
      Or it was just a “hey I like ARs and M14s so why don’t I combine the two, better yet I’ll do something different and make it feed from the side and eject down

    • @provo452
      @provo452 5 лет назад +39

      It looks like the 80s yay cocaine version of an FG42

  • @TheEnrieb
    @TheEnrieb 5 лет назад +2

    I can just imagine the gunsmith in a castle somewhere putting it together then having to run lightning bolts through it to get it to work. "Look! It's moving. It's alive.... It's alive!!!"

    • @normtrooper4392
      @normtrooper4392 4 года назад

      Cher-chunk as the bolt slides forward into battery

  • @ratagris21
    @ratagris21 5 лет назад +5

    Great video and looks like an AR Sten Gun. Just needs a Beta Mag and you're ready to rock and roll!

  • @bigdaddysherwood
    @bigdaddysherwood 5 лет назад

    looks like a teaching moment for his apprentice, take a bunch of parts you've got laying around and make them work together.

  • @StevenBeshears420
    @StevenBeshears420 5 лет назад +43

    JESUS I want that sooo freaking bad.

    • @StevenBeshears420
      @StevenBeshears420 5 лет назад

      @@stanleyjedrzejczyk2966 .223 Is my fav size.. Always has been, not just since its been trendy.. i had a mini 14 in the 80s lol

  • @eugenius6519
    @eugenius6519 4 года назад

    I think the guy deserves some praise, this thing is pretty well made.

  • @Arthurzeiro
    @Arthurzeiro 5 лет назад +26

    I wonder what's the weight of that, it sure looks lighter than a regular AR-15.

  • @kaich369
    @kaich369 5 лет назад +1

    I am in a country where we can't even own guns, but I just can't stop watching these.

  • @invictusprima4437
    @invictusprima4437 5 лет назад +12

    Looks like an alternate history FG-42

  • @carnut015
    @carnut015 5 лет назад

    What a fun range toy. Imagine the looks you would get showing up with that rifle.

  • @ConnorTrail
    @ConnorTrail 4 года назад +3

    I wonder what a modernized version of this gun would look like, name it something like XR-86A1 or something.

    • @greggv8
      @greggv8 2 года назад

      There's a ton of holes and exposed operating bits that would need filled in and covered to make it a practical everyday use rifle.

  • @jamesranger6283
    @jamesranger6283 5 лет назад

    Very nice. Glad you showed this. Mabe show us a few more examples of this sort of thing in the future. Thanks again.

  • @olliesmith8174
    @olliesmith8174 5 лет назад +100

    ....m15?

    • @derekhenschel3191
      @derekhenschel3191 5 лет назад +3

      There is an m15

    • @derekhenschel3191
      @derekhenschel3191 5 лет назад +5

      The m 15 is the general officers varient of the m1911A1

    • @olliesmith8174
      @olliesmith8174 5 лет назад +16

      Was just a joke bud

    • @DerangedManiac12
      @DerangedManiac12 5 лет назад +24

      @@derekhenschel3191 US Army numbering system is seperated for each category of weapon. Just because there is a pistol designated M15 doesn't exclude a rifle being designated M15.
      eg. M1 tank ("Abrams"), M1 smg ("Thompson"), M1 rifle ("Garand") M1 carbine, M1 flamethrower, etc

    • @exohead1
      @exohead1 5 лет назад +16

      calypsis there was an m15 rifle, though. The M15 was the automatic rifle/support weapon variant of the M14. But it was even more trash than the M14, so they never fielded it in significant numbers

  • @bitfreakazoid
    @bitfreakazoid 5 лет назад

    The fact that this was made back in '86 makes this even cooler.

  • @r5cpt
    @r5cpt 5 лет назад +3

    This design does make quite a lot of sense, actually. It might be actually an excellent gun.

    • @neutronalchemist3241
      @neutronalchemist3241 5 лет назад

      The project is neat for being something made for fun, but, to have sense, he should have simply rotated the M14 gas system 180° so to have the gas piston at hour 12. That way he could have mantained the entire AR15 lower as it was.

    • @ronaldcolman6211
      @ronaldcolman6211 5 лет назад

      @@neutronalchemist3241 I'm thinking this was meant for long range shooting from a prone position. Long barrel, good flash hider, no iron sights, and bottom ejection. Looks like a fun project.

  • @brittgardner2923
    @brittgardner2923 2 года назад +1

    I love this thing. I would buy a replica of this rifle just for simple joy of having something so weird yet functional.

  • @nickfletcher9955
    @nickfletcher9955 5 лет назад +308

    It was definitely made by a stoner
    Like Eugene stoner. If you needed me to specify

    • @chemistryofquestionablequa6252
      @chemistryofquestionablequa6252 5 лет назад +3

      Lol

    • @Owlpunk
      @Owlpunk 5 лет назад +37

      *extremely Hickok45 voice* LET'S SMOKE SOME POT!

    • @ap1s2k78
      @ap1s2k78 5 лет назад +12

      Lol this is forgotten weapons. Nobody needed you to specify. :) Gun geeks abound.....

    • @charlesadams1721
      @charlesadams1721 5 лет назад +2

      nick fletcher; the guy was a veteran police officer in addition to being a master gunsmith.

    • @markhusseymh1
      @markhusseymh1 5 лет назад +1

      I have both M62 &m63 stoner weapons systems real nice guns they are kept on military base

  • @jarink1
    @jarink1 5 лет назад +1

    Looks like something out of a 70's-80's sci-fi movie.

  • @AlexChovBricks
    @AlexChovBricks 5 лет назад +13

    It looks like Star Wars rifle ))))

  • @adamak47miller90
    @adamak47miller90 5 лет назад +2

    I love seeing people's creativity that's awesome

  • @leirex_1
    @leirex_1 5 лет назад +4

    Noah: "What the hell is this?"
    M16: ...
    M14: "Oh.. you didn't give any specific guidelines about mating"

  • @hughbarton5743
    @hughbarton5743 2 года назад

    What a clever fellow to make such a thing. Got to get this cat into my Rolodex ; in case of a zombie apocalypse he could probably whip up something out of junk that's laying around in the garage!
    Very interested, Ian. Thanks!

  • @skeemnave4882
    @skeemnave4882 5 лет назад +5

    its kinda' giving me Johnson vibes, ya know? with the ar style bolt and the right angle feed.

  • @fdmackey3666
    @fdmackey3666 5 лет назад +1

    I seem to recall, during the early S.A.W. trials, a very similar design showing up at Ft. Knox around 1981....It sure looks familiar.

  • @jeffphillips1832
    @jeffphillips1832 5 лет назад +5

    "Property of Mandelor"

  • @828enigma6
    @828enigma6 5 лет назад

    Interesting design using (mostly) available parts. It neatly avoids a couple of the AR-15 problems, unipoding with 30 round mags, and gas and dirt fouling in the receiver group.

  • @Jesses001
    @Jesses001 5 лет назад +4

    Wilfred Ellis was clearly a very talented gunsmith. He said he made this rifle in 15 days, and it did not have to go back to any revisions and worked on the first try. Any gunsmith will tell you, that is impressive. I really like this design. It is rather easy to field strip as well.
    Interesting fact. A Google search of "The Fort Ellis rifle" the first result is this video. The second result is this video on Full30. The third result is your article on this rifle on forgottenweapons.com. You have to go to the forth result to find the current auction, ha.

  • @ianbriggs1668
    @ianbriggs1668 5 лет назад +1

    Watching this in Abington, PA. I need to track the maker down to talk shop

  • @notyou1877
    @notyou1877 4 года назад +3

    Wow! He actually improved the action by installing a short piston and stopping all that carbon deposits and hot air getting inside the action cooking it.

  • @juliemittel3931
    @juliemittel3931 6 месяцев назад

    it looks like a corossbreed between an FG42 and an (early prototype?) AR-15 design and i love it.

  • @leifvejby8023
    @leifvejby8023 5 лет назад +4

    That is something you make because you can, and it looks kind of cool!
    Like some of my chainsaws.

    • @gavtriggs664
      @gavtriggs664 4 года назад

      Leif Vejby you make chainsaws-duuuude

  • @jonturk9552
    @jonturk9552 5 лет назад

    This guy was brilliantly nuts but hot damn, something about a side mounted mag that just looks right

  • @higorguedes4413
    @higorguedes4413 5 лет назад +29

    Basically a american Fallschirmjägergewehr 42

    • @Ranstone
      @Ranstone 5 лет назад +1

      I still can't believe "Fallschirmjägergewehr" is a real word. :\

  • @SamuraiChris78
    @SamuraiChris78 5 лет назад +1

    Gotta give dude credit, he created a pretty cool monster!

  • @Gunsgodandgovernment
    @Gunsgodandgovernment 5 лет назад +3

    I would love a sideways AR15 or AR10 like this that was dressed up to look like a real WW2 FG42 (or as close as it could get. It probably wouldn't fool most gun owners but it would still be cool to have and it would be A LOT cheaper to produce than the current reproduction FG42s)

  • @erwin669
    @erwin669 5 лет назад

    That has to be the most space-gun looking space-gun I have ever seen.

  • @kunicross
    @kunicross 5 лет назад +6

    When will we see the mud test for this?
    Actually the whole thing looks really nice and stuff like the trigger/charging handle is fun as well.
    Does it eject to the bottom?

  • @SH-gr1bc
    @SH-gr1bc 5 лет назад

    It's a masterpiece. The man who made it is a genius. Should have been the next standard issue weapon for the army.

    • @trentmorrison6074
      @trentmorrison6074 5 лет назад

      I would not want that for combat fof the same reason i would not want a hk416 for combat. Bolt carrier tilt.

  • @rlfgarrison
    @rlfgarrison 5 лет назад +8

    Ok watched it twice...How does it eject? I don't see an ejection port.

    • @beavisbutt-headson3223
      @beavisbutt-headson3223 5 лет назад +6

      The bottom. Since the bolt is rotated 90 degrees clockwise, it'll eject downwards. You can see the ejection port (faintly) at around 0:54

    • @GuitARPlayr100
      @GuitARPlayr100 5 лет назад +4

      Robin Garrison if you look carefully when he pulls the trigger group/magwell off, as he's rotating it, you can just see an ejection port below the charging handle. Very odd placement, and I missed it the first time myself.

    • @trentmorrison6074
      @trentmorrison6074 5 лет назад

      I think the ejection port is open when the bolts back in other words. Its a recipication bolt

  • @aries_9130
    @aries_9130 5 лет назад

    This is so freaking cool. I love the way he handled the trigger situation.

  • @jonathandalton2921
    @jonathandalton2921 5 лет назад +34

    i'd buy that. looks like a south african made it.

    • @ThetaReactor
      @ThetaReactor 5 лет назад +2

      @@stanleyjedrzejczyk2966 But this one works...

    • @jic1
      @jic1 5 лет назад +1

      @@stanleyjedrzejczyk2966 You mean the same Cobray who based two of its best-known guns on the South African Armsel Striker?

    • @RvEijndhoven
      @RvEijndhoven 5 лет назад +3

      @@stanleyjedrzejczyk2966 Nah, nah, if this was made by Cobray, it would be fully automatic and chambered for 12 gauge... Somehow.

  • @chitoryu12
    @chitoryu12 4 года назад

    It's always amazing to see a random home gunsmith one-off and it *actually works*.

  • @medicalmanport1136
    @medicalmanport1136 5 лет назад +3

    Looks like a fg 42

  • @nedflanders5302
    @nedflanders5302 5 лет назад

    This is a badass piece of AR History.

  • @salokin3087
    @salokin3087 5 лет назад +9

    It's horrid and I want it

  • @jimseiler4651
    @jimseiler4651 4 года назад

    Clever...Very ingenious. Thanks for posting this one!

  • @George_Doc
    @George_Doc 5 лет назад +4

    I need this in Fallout New Vegas!

  • @francislematt7079
    @francislematt7079 5 лет назад

    After having seen so many tacticool AR's for so many years it's kinda refreshingly B-movie space gun-esque.

  • @phantomspaceman
    @phantomspaceman 5 лет назад +4

    And all the ATF agents watching this video started having convulsions.

  • @wlewisiii
    @wlewisiii 5 лет назад +2

    Now that's a rifle I'd be willing to buy from a maker. Far more interesting than a typical AR clone.

  • @bob123728
    @bob123728 5 лет назад +6

    "Nothing historic about this"
    I heartily disagree

  • @Hawksandlagers
    @Hawksandlagers 4 года назад +1

    This looks like a gun that would transition well to a Star Wars movie.