As a medium swing speed senior, I hit woods / hybrids better than irons, so I have gone with it. I now carry two fairways, (adjustable Cobra F8s 13.5 and 18.5) and 4 and 5 G410 hybrids. I am about to add a 6 hybrid, dropping out my 5 and 6 irons, which will also allow me to add another wedge lower down the bag.
Hey Ali. I own two of the Ping G 425 Max Woods in the # 3 and the # 5. Love them both. Honestly speaking I have never seen a better hybrid in terms of feel , ability to aim at targets, way they look and forgiveness. I recently tested the G 425 hybrids versus Taylormade Stealth's. I would be considered a mid handicap golfer and I am a senior as well. I tried both makes over the course of several days in various lofts and in senior flex. Both the Stealth's and G 425 's are quality clubs but for me the Ping's were by far the best choice for me. I really like the 3 dots on the Ping models and the face as far as aligning my shots. I felt it was easier to aim at my targets then the Stealth was. I ended up adding several of the Ping G 425 hybrids to my bag. Great review here Ali. Thank you. Joe
Excellent review video. I got my 3 wood today and went down to the range. Super impressed with the club. The wrap face sounds and feels really solid. My carry distance from my ancient Calloway was 20 yards up. Dispersion was much improved. I’m thinking of getting either a hybrid or 7 wood. I would like to retire my 4 and 5 iron as I hit both the same distance. Thanks for helpingme make a choice.
Great video - easily one of your best from a content and findings perspective. If you, likely a scratch golfer, are hitting a 7-hybrid like that, then you can stop most of your fittings at an 8-iron - then into 7,6,5,4 hybrids - then 7wood (that flight and stopping power was amazing). When you get out of lockdown, I would love to see you play a round of golf with a bag setup like that - or do it now virtually vs your stock bag, and see what the results are.
Thanks for a great review! Would be very helpful with a fair test against the g410s. Are the g425s improvements so much better it is worth upgrading from G410 hybrid and fw?
Fascinating. Here we have an excellent golfer with great speed. And..... the stand out performers were the 7 hybrid and 7 wood. Drop your ego’s golfers!!!!!
Enjoyed the reviews and the format with the interchanging of the different clubs from similar distances. I too have a similar conundrum with the 7 wood vs hybrid debate. I've hit the 3 hybrid and it's great. Very hot, and love the shape, although do get the occasional left shot off the planet. Not so much with the fairways. Subscribed.
Didn’t like hybrids either but love my Ping G410 hybrid because I could set it flatter. After that straight and workable ballflight (low, high, straight curved). Love that club, maybe this year also a Ping fairwaywood or the TSi3....looking forward testing them on trackman after lockdown....
I have a G30 7wood (heaven wood) and can back it up from time to time. I took both 3 and 4 irons out of the bag and just choke down an inch or so to get 4 iron distance out of it. I'm a 4 handicap for what it's worth.
So you wouldn't play the driven iron 3 or 2 is what you saying.. I need a 200-yard club. my 4 iron goes 190 at 22 lofts.. I need 19 lofts or 18 lofts to get the 200yrds.. Ping suggests I get the crossover at #3 with 20 lofts. But I'm not sold on it.. any help.
@@bnzstheboy6520 If your 4 iron 'carries' 190, I would look for a 205 'carry' club - make the gapping 15 at the long end of the bag - it gives more flexibility. The other thing to do is pick a shot shape that you want this club to hit - so that you can count on it - and then build the club that aids this shot shape. As an example, my 22-degree Taylormade GapR High, I play 2 clicks open to 21 degrees (this should be more fade like, but I put it in the Upright setting, and that combo produces a 5-7 yard draw - I also replaced the stock shaft with a heavier 110-gram Steelfiber X-flex that is 1/2 shorter which matches the shaft in my longest iron - a 24 degree Mizuno HMB 5-iron). For 'my' next club, which is sort of the club that you are looking for, is my struggle, because a 19-degree hybrid, played open at 18-degrees for a 5-yard fade, which I prefer at the 220-yard distance, doesn't come in as high as I want (I've hit a bunch in the simulator trying clubs and my descent angle drops below 45-degrees to the 40-43 range - you can see it in the video here - it's a great flight, not too low like the 2 driving iron - I would call it a mid-flight - but it doesn't have that 7-wood decent angle where you know it will stop - and that is why you are seeing Pros put 7woods in the bag on certain courses - it's the decent angle - that said, if you play in really windy conditions, it won't always be the right club). I'm a big fan of 4-hybrids (23 to 20 degrees) because most good players have enough speed, with the aid of the club's CG, to get that 33+ yard peak height and greater than 45-degree descent angle. It's the next club, that 17-20 degree range, where the hybrid, while still far better than a long iron, starts to not be optimal for most golfers (I'm a 6 handicap with a 108mph driver swing speed), very similar to what you see in this video. I would try a variety of clubs, 7 woods that you open/de-loft a click or 2, if you want to hit a fade, or possible a 5-wood, 1/2 to 3/4 and inch shorter, that you increase in loft a click or two (if you want a draw) and compare those 2 with a 3-hybrid, also playing with the face angle for shot-shape. I find really spending the time and effort to fix this part of the bag from an area of weakness and making it into a strength is an instant handicap improvement and it is where most amateurs can fundamentally make huge improvements - again, look for a goto shot-shape and a 45degree land angle, or higher, if possible.
@@wallstreetoneil What clubs would you suggest for as irons.. KZG is trying to fit me for clubs at $2000 or so for a full bag.. But not sure I want to spend on KZG. I like the approach of myself getting the clubs in order.. Not sure any help?
@@bnzstheboy6520 I can give you lots of suggestions - can you first tell me what you play, why you like them or not, your shot shape, handicap range, what your miss is ?
Great video (despite the rather depressing black backdrop!). Looking forward to when I’m allowed out to go and get fitted for this range. Very keen to try out the 7FW for the first time, though I note that the loft on this club is different on the Max and SFT models, which is a bit confusing. My biggest dilemma however is over the hybrids as I just don’t understand how the lofts are calculated. For instance, the 26 degree hybrid is meant to replace a 5 iron, yet is actually the same loft as the 6 iron! If anybody can shed some light on this, then would be much appreciated.
that is my problem. to much BS. dOn't like at the number.. look at the loft.. my 4 iron is 22.5 and the fitter told me to get 3 crossovers at 20 You got to kidding... WHAT I GAIN A SMOOTH 5 YRDS LOL... I either bend to 19 or get the 18
7w seems a bit more forgiving and if you struggle with thin hits (I know I do) the lower cg should offer better ball speed retention. Im planning to switch into one this season.
I just need to know which 1 is better for hitting out of the rough since the majority of the time that's where my drive ends up. Woods seem pointless for me.
I'm thinking about a 2ut, this will be one to try. Love the currently cobra utility in inital testing. Potentially looking to play my g410 3 hybrid for high draw shot and a 2ut for lower fairway finder
Love your reviews. First, you never sound like a manufacturer rep selling their clubs and you show all yours shots, good and bad. Shafts, specifically fairways. Did you receive them fitted for what you normally use or did you test with Pings CB Alta or one of the no up charge options? Thanks again for the great videos. Oh yeah, to what someone else mentioned, the all black room.... maybe have your logo put up on the walls?
Loved that Ali, I guess I have to get fitted coz I really can't decide whether it will be 5 wood or hybrid so I'm going to have to go in and hit a few after this damn lockdown, these videos make me have the itch to play again!
Ali should practise more to hit more accurate and consistent shots before giving demonstrations. It's annoying to watch somebody mis-hitting shots for 30 minutes!
@@AliTaylorGolf No but i was thinking of the 3 or 2 on the crossover.. they say loft is 20 on the 3, my 4 iron is 22.5 - either I bend to 19 or i get the 18 what you think buddy.
As a medium swing speed senior, I hit woods / hybrids better than irons, so I have gone with it. I now carry two fairways, (adjustable Cobra F8s 13.5 and 18.5) and 4 and 5 G410 hybrids. I am about to add a 6 hybrid, dropping out my 5 and 6 irons, which will also allow me to add another wedge lower down the bag.
Hey Ali. I own two of the Ping G 425 Max Woods in the # 3 and the # 5. Love them both. Honestly speaking I have never seen a better hybrid in terms of feel , ability to aim at targets, way they look and forgiveness. I recently tested the G 425 hybrids versus Taylormade Stealth's. I would be considered a mid handicap golfer and I am a senior as well. I tried both makes over the course of several days in various lofts and in senior flex. Both the Stealth's and G 425 's are quality clubs but for me the Ping's were by far the best choice for me. I really like the 3 dots on the Ping models and the face as far as aligning my shots. I felt it was easier to aim at my targets then the Stealth was. I ended up adding several of the Ping G 425 hybrids to my bag. Great review here Ali. Thank you. Joe
Best review I have ever seen ! An eyeopener ! Keep more of these coming !!
Thank you! Will do!
Excellent review video. I got my 3 wood today and went down to the range. Super impressed with the club. The wrap face sounds and feels really solid. My carry distance from my ancient Calloway was 20 yards up. Dispersion was much improved. I’m thinking of getting either a hybrid or 7 wood. I would like to retire my 4 and 5 iron as I hit both the same distance. Thanks for helpingme make a choice.
Great video - easily one of your best from a content and findings perspective. If you, likely a scratch golfer, are hitting a 7-hybrid like that, then you can stop most of your fittings at an 8-iron - then into 7,6,5,4 hybrids - then 7wood (that flight and stopping power was amazing). When you get out of lockdown, I would love to see you play a round of golf with a bag setup like that - or do it now virtually vs your stock bag, and see what the results are.
Totally Awesome...thanks for demonstration .
Thanks for a great review! Would be very helpful with a fair test against the g410s. Are the g425s improvements so much better it is worth upgrading from
G410 hybrid and fw?
Excellent information! Very thorough
Fascinating. Here we have an excellent golfer with great speed. And..... the stand out performers were the 7 hybrid and 7 wood. Drop your ego’s golfers!!!!!
Absolutely
Enjoyed the reviews and the format with the interchanging of the different clubs from similar distances. I too have a similar conundrum with the 7 wood vs hybrid debate. I've hit the 3 hybrid and it's great. Very hot, and love the shape, although do get the occasional left shot off the planet. Not so much with the fairways. Subscribed.
Didn’t like hybrids either but love my Ping G410 hybrid because I could set it flatter. After that straight and workable ballflight (low, high, straight curved). Love that club, maybe this year also a Ping fairwaywood or the TSi3....looking forward testing them on trackman after lockdown....
Great video Ali really enjoyed it.
Thank you
Awesome demonstration...
Thank you!
I have a G30 7wood (heaven wood) and can back it up from time to time. I took both 3 and 4 irons out of the bag and just choke down an inch or so to get 4 iron distance out of it. I'm a 4 handicap for what it's worth.
Looking to do the same hate my 3 iron in wet conditions or cold 🥶 for obvious reasons 😂👍
So you wouldn't play the driven iron 3 or 2 is what you saying.. I need a 200-yard club. my 4 iron goes 190 at 22 lofts.. I need 19 lofts or 18 lofts to get the 200yrds.. Ping suggests I get the crossover at #3 with 20 lofts. But I'm not sold on it.. any help.
@@bnzstheboy6520 If your 4 iron 'carries' 190, I would look for a 205 'carry' club - make the gapping 15 at the long end of the bag - it gives more flexibility. The other thing to do is pick a shot shape that you want this club to hit - so that you can count on it - and then build the club that aids this shot shape. As an example, my 22-degree Taylormade GapR High, I play 2 clicks open to 21 degrees (this should be more fade like, but I put it in the Upright setting, and that combo produces a 5-7 yard draw - I also replaced the stock shaft with a heavier 110-gram Steelfiber X-flex that is 1/2 shorter which matches the shaft in my longest iron - a 24 degree Mizuno HMB 5-iron). For 'my' next club, which is sort of the club that you are looking for, is my struggle, because a 19-degree hybrid, played open at 18-degrees for a 5-yard fade, which I prefer at the 220-yard distance, doesn't come in as high as I want (I've hit a bunch in the simulator trying clubs and my descent angle drops below 45-degrees to the 40-43 range - you can see it in the video here - it's a great flight, not too low like the 2 driving iron - I would call it a mid-flight - but it doesn't have that 7-wood decent angle where you know it will stop - and that is why you are seeing Pros put 7woods in the bag on certain courses - it's the decent angle - that said, if you play in really windy conditions, it won't always be the right club). I'm a big fan of 4-hybrids (23 to 20 degrees) because most good players have enough speed, with the aid of the club's CG, to get that 33+ yard peak height and greater than 45-degree descent angle. It's the next club, that 17-20 degree range, where the hybrid, while still far better than a long iron, starts to not be optimal for most golfers (I'm a 6 handicap with a 108mph driver swing speed), very similar to what you see in this video. I would try a variety of clubs, 7 woods that you open/de-loft a click or 2, if you want to hit a fade, or possible a 5-wood, 1/2 to 3/4 and inch shorter, that you increase in loft a click or two (if you want a draw) and compare those 2 with a 3-hybrid, also playing with the face angle for shot-shape. I find really spending the time and effort to fix this part of the bag from an area of weakness and making it into a strength is an instant handicap improvement and it is where most amateurs can fundamentally make huge improvements - again, look for a goto shot-shape and a 45degree land angle, or higher, if possible.
@@wallstreetoneil What clubs would you suggest for as irons.. KZG is trying to fit me for clubs at $2000 or so for a full bag.. But not sure I want to spend on KZG. I like the approach of myself getting the clubs in order.. Not sure any help?
@@bnzstheboy6520 I can give you lots of suggestions - can you first tell me what you play, why you like them or not, your shot shape, handicap range, what your miss is ?
Great video (despite the rather depressing black backdrop!). Looking forward to when I’m allowed out to go and get fitted for this range. Very keen to try out the 7FW for the first time, though I note that the loft on this club is different on the Max and SFT models, which is a bit confusing.
My biggest dilemma however is over the hybrids as I just don’t understand how the lofts are calculated. For instance, the 26 degree hybrid is meant to replace a 5 iron, yet is actually the same loft as the 6 iron! If anybody can shed some light on this, then would be much appreciated.
that is my problem. to much BS. dOn't like at the number.. look at the loft.. my 4 iron is 22.5 and the fitter told me to get 3 crossovers at 20 You got to kidding... WHAT I GAIN A SMOOTH 5 YRDS LOL... I either bend to 19 or get the 18
7w seems a bit more forgiving and if you struggle with thin hits (I know I do) the lower cg should offer better ball speed retention. Im planning to switch into one this season.
Am I right in saying that you can adjust the loft slightly on the woods and hybrids if so how much?
Great video, any thoughts on what’s best out of 4 iron vs hybrid on windy courses? Thanks
Would the 4 crossover have higher trajectory and be easier to hit than a regular 4 iron?
I just need to know which 1 is better for hitting out of the rough since the majority of the time that's where my drive ends up. Woods seem pointless for me.
I'm thinking about a 2ut, this will be one to try. Love the currently cobra utility in inital testing. Potentially looking to play my g410 3 hybrid for high draw shot and a 2ut for lower fairway finder
I am sure that the Hybrid is the best over the whole Industrie... Even bevor watching the video. For me Ping hybrids are the best😉 forgivnesswise
It is very good
Love your reviews. First, you never sound like a manufacturer rep selling their clubs and you show all yours shots, good and bad. Shafts, specifically fairways. Did you receive them fitted for what you normally use or did you test with Pings CB Alta or one of the no up charge options? Thanks again for the great videos. Oh yeah, to what someone else mentioned, the all black room.... maybe have your logo put up on the walls?
They are fitted and I have other shafts as well
That was fun excellent review (I know the Crossover athough looks great its not for me...but hybrids are......
What were your numbers between the 3HY and 7 wood?
Have you ever tried the 2hybrid? I’m really REALLY intrigued by it, and would love to replace my 5W with it.
I go 3W, 2H, 3 Crossover and then 4-PW. Absolutely love the 17 degree hybrid as my 5w replacement.
I hit the 3 crossover yesterday... wow
what distance you get to carry. It's 20 / number 3 is that what you hit..
@@bnzstheboy6520 I hit the 3 with a x flex and was carrying the 3 about 240 and the 2 just over 250
I think i get the 2 crossovers I think that will give me 200 its 18 degrees the 3 is only 20 and I have 4 iron at 22.5 trying to fill the gap
Did Ping send clubs that are too short for Ali?
No why?
I can’t hit a fairway wood to save my life. I got fit for the 3 crossover yesterday and have it on pre order. This the importance of going for a fit.
yeah, then tommow you will be hitting the crossover bad.. anyway what distance you get out of it.. i stick between 3 or 2
why miss out the 5 wood
Great review!!
Where’s the overall numbers discussion?
Thanks for not recapping the numbers at the end of the video I needed a good waste of time this evening
Loved that Ali, I guess I have to get fitted coz I really can't decide whether it will be 5 wood or hybrid so I'm going to have to go in and hit a few after this damn lockdown, these videos make me have the itch to play again!
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I can do my own set online. find out what I need by watching videos.. and put it together.. save 350 and 3 hours of BS
I hope you don't take anyone else in that crack den.
Ali should practise more to hit more accurate and consistent shots before giving demonstrations. It's annoying to watch somebody mis-hitting shots for 30 minutes!
Do you want to see how the club performs when hit perfectly every time?
@@AliTaylorGolf No but i was thinking of the 3 or 2 on the crossover.. they say loft is 20 on the 3, my 4 iron is 22.5 - either I bend to 19 or i get the 18 what you think buddy.
haha......watch something else then......simples......