I get it, but not worthy of an upgrade if you already have an MPC (Live, Live2, One, One+, X). I do dig your channel, tho. I would get jacked if Akai could work in disk streaming into the MPC platform. (It's in the Force, which has the same processor). Right now, I'm putting longer stems on the 404-mk2, and triggering via midi.
That's one thing I was asking for before plugins where a things. Streamline and no load times for keygroups would of been nice. Even still with the lag you get switching through presets.
@@LiftedNoise I'm into performing. I used to try to use Ableton to perform, but things were too complicated (and unreliable) and if you have a laptop in front of you, it is hard to engage with people and visa versa. I'm trying to figure out if my MPC Live is up to performing. I like the pads on the MPC, but in a live set environment, the context switching is a real downer and gets me out of the flow. For me, right now, its the SP and the Digitakt. Digi on drums, SP for stems (bass and melody). SP for hits. MPC goes back in the closet until it can play a 1hr long set. It has such potential, and damn I love the pads. Totally fine for beatmaking, but not quite up to snuff for the stage.
You just pretty much solved my all in one for my iPad Pro. Instead of me having all of these usb in my hub I can just use this. THANK YOU!!! And what’s funny is I thought this was a waste of time.
That actually might seal the deal for me, sold my live 2 last year since I kept using my Force because of the quicker workflow. But I do miss having an MPC for those moments when I feel nostalgic about the MPC workflow regardless that it takes me longer to crank out a beat. At first the Keys 37 didn't seem like it was it, and I felt I had to sit this one out and wait for what's next, but this feature you highlighted makes a ton of sence with my setup and might push me over the edge. I'm gonna give it a few more weeks, but have to thank you for reporting this feature it's something that was sorely lacking in other models for me personally, that is.
Does seem like som of these features should be standard but I cant complain. They are headed in a nice direction. The force workflow huh.. 🤔 I been curious but I think whatever your used to is always going to work best. Thanks for dropping in with the comment 🙏 🍻
Inspiring video 👍! I never tried to connect USB-B 2.0 plug to USB-B 3.0 socket😁, but it works! Would be nice to have the MPC Keys 37 as an audio interface in standalone mode too, like the Yamaha MOXF does, for instance. Thus no reason to change gear; I will stay with the MPC Live II und use 16 channels of Bluetooth midi to trigger VSTs within my PC, DAW or iOS devices. By using the 2 additional USB-A connectors, I can simultaneously connect 32 additional USB hardware devices like all the Waldorfs, Novations, Moogs, Dave Smiths, Arturias and Dreadboxes, even the good old Sequential Pro-One attends the setup through the CV ports of the MPC. So the MPC became the DAW for all DAWs, literally.
It's a nice feature. Where my Key 61 is, there are three other keyboards that can do that so it's covered by other 88 and 61 key units with both synth and weighted, graded, hammer actions. It would be nice to have but probably never used by me with the other choices I have.
Sounds like your all set. Your not buying a key 37 then.. it does seem like you keep up with the discussion..are you waiting to see if something convinces you otherwise..🤔
Good for me I started with akai mini and I want to start my Mpc introduction and this will be good with my laptop 💻 and I also can familiarize myself with Mpc and learn so I will pull the trigger. I wanted to get key 61 but I have no piano skills and notes so this is perfect.
Yea, man, I think you're going to love it! I can't take my hands off it 😆 I don't really do the software cause standalone is great! But if I was going to pair this with a laptop, I'd run kontakt on the desktop without a daw and sequence it with the MPC through USB.
You can do this with the keys 61 ..but I believe your are right , it still needs to be in controller mode to work, and absolutely does not work in standalone. I am sure the 61 will get an update to allow this. It would be a huge miss for people who already have the 61 like myself. I have not really used controller mode until recently , and it’s extremely frustrating getting all of the midi mapping on logic to use in controller mode with synth multiple gear. You have to daisy chain your midi and then still use the usb to a AI to work with your computer, the 61 does allow audio and midi but lots of work around to get it to play nice .
I think the best solution is using a midi interface or some audio interfaces have midi io built in. There are also usb to midin5 pin cables out there that can work.
Excellent video. I have an MPC X and wanted to use that in conjunction with the key 37 just to have more options, can they be used together in standalone mode? if so what would be the best connection to pair them, thanks for any info!
I have the mpc live 2, and the only way I really use them together is by moving the SD card back and forth. I'll start a project on the live at work and then move the project over to the key 37 at home to work on it some more. The simplest way of syncing them together that I can think of is using a midi cable out from one into the other. I guess the benefit from this would be an increased amount of plugins you could run. Why do you want to connect them? What are you trying to do exactly?
I wanted to connect them to have more drum pad options and to use the keys as well, like 32 pads instead of 16, basically just having an increased amount, and my thought was exactly what you were saying was to connect it via midi cable, I was just wondering if one would cancel out some of its functionality, like for instance the keys would work on the 37 and not the drum pads when midi'd to the X. thanks for responding, I really appreciate it! @@LiftedNoise
Does anyone know? Can you use USB B of Key 37 to *output* the L/R audio of a sequence? Asking as my mixer (a Yamaha MG10XU) has a USB B 2input/2output that allows for monitoring signal while NOT sending that monitored signal to the stereo out (i.e. this allows monitoring MPC tracks while laying down vocals, guitar, bass etc thru mixer into MPC).
Does that mean that i will be able to for example set the scale in mpc key 37 and control ableton vsti plugin midi while in standalone mode with the scale lock on the mpc keys? While generating the midi in scale?
Hey lifted question. I have the Mpc one and I’m running 2 JBL 3 MKii speakers. Do I have to have an interface running through my Mpc into the speakers? on standalone. Lately I’ve been hearing little crackles coming from the speakers, and any suggestions?
hey do you still use audient evo 4?? could you please let me know what cables do i need to connect my mpc key 37 to it? i want to use this front instrument input - is that okay?
I do not use that interface anymore but what you want to do should work. I was using a stereo trs to stereo trs cable. Or you could test if the USB is compatible.
It does. So there's that, but I think that mostly for receiving unless maybe with some iOS stuff. I have successfully used my LIVE 2 with scaler on iOS.
🤔 I don't completely understand your question. It was said that the mpc key 37 has a built in hardware add that no other MPC has. So all you need is a USB cable.
So what about the Key61? What about that one? Truat im hapoy about the 37 i knew when i 1st seen and got the key61 i knew a 37 was on its way. I just know the key61 got slept on and i know why. But the 37 is the same mibus a few pieces but i wanna know about this function. Ive always used standalone and when i qst got it this was my 1st mpc entryway. Ive used akai midi bit never mpc os
I can't check for You on the 61. From what I can see and have been told it's just a feature of the 37. 61 is awesome 👌 every MPC akai comes out with gets bashed for some reason..
@@LiftedNoiseever since the live 2 and one mpc gets bashed for everything. The x se shouldve had more bells and whistles. The key61 is perfect for being what it is a workstation. Honestly the key lines are gonna revolutionize music and bring a different demographic audience. The key61 & 37 especially the 37 hands down im calling it now the best mpc you can get. Downside speakers & battery other than that 💯💯💯💯
Can it work with other daws like reasons i don't want to buy another midi controller i was told the key 61 was able to then i got rid of my midi controller because not enough space but it was all lies
Yea man in theory it should work with any DAW. It will recognize the mpc key 37 as a midi interface, you'll likely have to choose it within preferences. I can confirm what that process is with Reason. I don't have it but it's probably very easy.
@hymiecamp that's a hardware unit. This a feature that allows you to control software synths through the USB B port. You're talking about using the USB A port.
@@LiftedNoise it is usb a to usb b to the pc. I just didn’t want to spend $100 on an interface. My laptop doesn’t have an auxiliary import only headphone out. So it’s either the usb or buy the interface. I saw some plug ins that make it like an amp. But I think this goes back to interface. I also have a capture card and a usb c hub. So my other thought was I can just use garage band iPhone to this doc I have then to the capture card the to obs then stream on discord. The doc is meant for a steam deck but it has usb ports. And I got the capture card to stream my ps5 on discord.
@LiftedNoise That's dope! I guess a lot of people (like myself) have been waiting on this feature. I'm guessing any and all MPCs released after the Key 37 will have it as well.
As far as I know and have heard from a few sources, it is exclusively a key 37 hardware add-on. Are you sure what you are doing is the same process? In Standalone with a USB B cable
nope. put your mpc x in standalone and try to send midi out via usb. That function isnt there. its not in the key 61 either. I have the X and Live 2 also
I get what you guys mean now! Thanks for the clarification! Bro you don't even understand how much I wish that my MPC could access all my Kontakt plugins and stuff like Nexus & Omnisphere in standalone mode! That would be so fucking amazing! I hate the fact that that's not even a thing! Because of that, it makes it hard for me to want to use my MPC X over just continuing to use FL Studio!@@tbonebeats6429
I get it, but not worthy of an upgrade if you already have an MPC (Live, Live2, One, One+, X). I do dig your channel, tho. I would get jacked if Akai could work in disk streaming into the MPC platform. (It's in the Force, which has the same processor). Right now, I'm putting longer stems on the 404-mk2, and triggering via midi.
That's one thing I was asking for before plugins where a things. Streamline and no load times for keygroups would of been nice. Even still with the lag you get switching through presets.
@@LiftedNoise I'm into performing. I used to try to use Ableton to perform, but things were too complicated (and unreliable) and if you have a laptop in front of you, it is hard to engage with people and visa versa. I'm trying to figure out if my MPC Live is up to performing. I like the pads on the MPC, but in a live set environment, the context switching is a real downer and gets me out of the flow. For me, right now, its the SP and the Digitakt. Digi on drums, SP for stems (bass and melody). SP for hits. MPC goes back in the closet until it can play a 1hr long set. It has such potential, and damn I love the pads. Totally fine for beatmaking, but not quite up to snuff for the stage.
You just pretty much solved my all in one for my iPad Pro. Instead of me having all of these usb in my hub I can just use this. THANK YOU!!! And what’s funny is I thought this was a waste of time.
That's what's up! What kind of connector does that have. USB C? I'm looking for a good hub for an iPad air 2 with lightning connection.
@@LiftedNoiseI wonder if an Aki mpc 61 will eventually have this feature? Thanks for this video…
nice one ..akai adding cool workflow features - awesome.
No doubt! 😎
Thanks for the info bro! Been racking my brain trying to figure that out. I couldn't find no info anywhere on how to do that. 🔥🔥💪🏾
No doubt bro!! 🍻 glad to be a help. Peace. 🙏
That actually might seal the deal for me, sold my live 2 last year since I kept using my Force because of the quicker workflow. But I do miss having an MPC for those moments when I feel nostalgic about the MPC workflow regardless that it takes me longer to crank out a beat. At first the Keys 37 didn't seem like it was it, and I felt I had to sit this one out and wait for what's next, but this feature you highlighted makes a ton of sence with my setup and might push me over the edge. I'm gonna give it a few more weeks, but have to thank you for reporting this feature it's something that was sorely lacking in other models for me personally, that is.
Does seem like som of these features should be standard but I cant complain. They are headed in a nice direction. The force workflow huh.. 🤔 I been curious but I think whatever your used to is always going to work best. Thanks for dropping in with the comment 🙏 🍻
That’s what I on the hunt for, thank you Sir!
If so is there a video showing this or maybe you can make a video showing the key 37 working with reasons studio thanks
If there is a free demo version I could maybe look into it
Great video 📹 👍 This information is gold star! ✨️
Inspiring video 👍! I never tried to connect USB-B 2.0 plug to USB-B 3.0 socket😁, but it works! Would be nice to have the MPC Keys 37 as an audio interface in standalone mode too, like the Yamaha MOXF does, for instance. Thus no reason to change gear; I will stay with the MPC Live II und use 16 channels of Bluetooth midi to trigger VSTs within my PC, DAW or iOS devices. By using the 2 additional USB-A connectors, I can simultaneously connect 32 additional USB hardware devices like all the Waldorfs, Novations, Moogs, Dave Smiths, Arturias and Dreadboxes, even the good old Sequential Pro-One attends the setup through the CV ports of the MPC. So the MPC became the DAW for all DAWs, literally.
Great info, but why is there port 1 and 2 when there is only one cable?
That’s a 🔥 feature for sure!
Definitely!! 😎
It's a nice feature. Where my Key 61 is, there are three other keyboards that can do that so it's covered by other 88 and 61 key units with both synth and weighted, graded, hammer actions. It would be nice to have but probably never used by me with the other choices I have.
Sounds like your all set. Your not buying a key 37 then.. it does seem like you keep up with the discussion..are you waiting to see if something convinces you otherwise..🤔
Good for me I started with akai mini and I want to start my Mpc introduction and this will be good with my laptop 💻 and I also can familiarize myself with Mpc and learn so I will pull the trigger. I wanted to get key 61 but I have no piano skills and notes so this is perfect.
Yea, man, I think you're going to love it! I can't take my hands off it 😆 I don't really do the software cause standalone is great! But if I was going to pair this with a laptop, I'd run kontakt on the desktop without a daw and sequence it with the MPC through USB.
You can do this with the keys 61 ..but I believe your are right , it still needs to be in controller mode to work, and absolutely does not work in standalone. I am sure the 61 will get an update to allow this. It would be a huge miss for people who already have the 61 like myself. I have not really used controller mode until recently , and it’s extremely frustrating getting all of the midi mapping on logic to use in controller mode with synth multiple gear. You have to daisy chain your midi and then still use the usb to a AI to work with your computer, the 61 does allow audio and midi but lots of work around to get it to play nice .
I think the best solution is using a midi interface or some audio interfaces have midi io built in. There are also usb to midin5 pin cables out there that can work.
Omg. This is game changing for me. iPad Pro with logic and this. Mobile. I can do anything. Anywhere. Thanks 🙏
😎🍻 well, remember this does not have a battery but you can find battery solutions.
@@LiftedNoise I’ve already got the battery and speakers sorted thanks works, and sounds like a dream.
@@MikeHenrick1 awesome!!! Have fun 👍
Excellent video. I have an MPC X and wanted to use that in conjunction with the key 37 just to have more options, can they be used together in standalone mode? if so what would be the best connection to pair them, thanks for any info!
I have the mpc live 2, and the only way I really use them together is by moving the SD card back and forth. I'll start a project on the live at work and then move the project over to the key 37 at home to work on it some more. The simplest way of syncing them together that I can think of is using a midi cable out from one into the other. I guess the benefit from this would be an increased amount of plugins you could run. Why do you want to connect them? What are you trying to do exactly?
I wanted to connect them to have more drum pad options and to use the keys as well, like 32 pads instead of 16, basically just having an increased amount, and my thought was exactly what you were saying was to connect it via midi cable, I was just wondering if one would cancel out some of its functionality, like for instance the keys would work on the 37 and not the drum pads when midi'd to the X. thanks for responding, I really appreciate it!
@@LiftedNoise
Does anyone know?
Can you use USB B of Key 37 to *output* the L/R audio of a sequence?
Asking as my mixer (a Yamaha MG10XU) has a USB B 2input/2output that allows for monitoring signal while NOT sending that monitored signal to the stereo out (i.e. this allows monitoring MPC tracks while laying down vocals, guitar, bass etc thru mixer into MPC).
Does that mean that i will be able to for example set the scale in mpc key 37 and control ableton vsti plugin midi while in standalone mode with the scale lock on the mpc keys? While generating the midi in scale?
I am unsure. I've only used it with the built in instruments.
Hey lifted question. I have the Mpc one and I’m running 2 JBL 3 MKii speakers. Do I have to have an interface running through my Mpc into the speakers? on standalone.
Lately I’ve been hearing little crackles coming from the speakers, and any suggestions?
No you shouldn't need an interface. I used to do this with my ONE. maybe turn the gain down on the one output.
What about the "Auto Save Enable"option. I'm not sure if that's new but it's golden.
Yea, I think that's been around for a while across all the machines. It's definitely nice to have 👌
hey do you still use audient evo 4?? could you please let me know what cables do i need to connect my mpc key 37 to it? i want to use this front instrument input - is that okay?
I do not use that interface anymore but what you want to do should work. I was using a stereo trs to stereo trs cable. Or you could test if the USB is compatible.
Does the Key37 have blue tooth. Because you can use Bluetooth midi with the live 2 and the others that have Bluetooth.
It does. So there's that, but I think that mostly for receiving unless maybe with some iOS stuff. I have successfully used my LIVE 2 with scaler on iOS.
What is the hardware add that we need to completely use with the MPC KEY 37???
🤔 I don't completely understand your question. It was said that the mpc key 37 has a built in hardware add that no other MPC has. So all you need is a USB cable.
Does it work better than remote? Because i control fl trough remote midi (wireless)
never tried remote...
is it bluetooth or wifi? never thought to ask what it was for
So what about the Key61? What about that one? Truat im hapoy about the 37 i knew when i 1st seen and got the key61 i knew a 37 was on its way. I just know the key61 got slept on and i know why. But the 37 is the same mibus a few pieces but i wanna know about this function. Ive always used standalone and when i qst got it this was my 1st mpc entryway. Ive used akai midi bit never mpc os
I can't check for You on the 61. From what I can see and have been told it's just a feature of the 37. 61 is awesome 👌 every MPC akai comes out with gets bashed for some reason..
@@LiftedNoiseever since the live 2 and one mpc gets bashed for everything. The x se shouldve had more bells and whistles. The key61 is perfect for being what it is a workstation. Honestly the key lines are gonna revolutionize music and bring a different demographic audience. The key61 & 37 especially the 37 hands down im calling it now the best mpc you can get. Downside speakers & battery other than that 💯💯💯💯
Can it work with other daws like reasons i don't want to buy another midi controller i was told the key 61 was able to then i got rid of my midi controller because not enough space but it was all lies
Yea man in theory it should work with any DAW. It will recognize the mpc key 37 as a midi interface, you'll likely have to choose it within preferences. I can confirm what that process is with Reason. I don't have it but it's probably very easy.
Interesting I plug my multi strike pad directly usb midi and it works.
@hymiecamp that's a hardware unit. This a feature that allows you to control software synths through the USB B port. You're talking about using the USB A port.
@@LiftedNoise it is usb a to usb b to the pc. I just didn’t want to spend $100 on an interface. My laptop doesn’t have an auxiliary import only headphone out. So it’s either the usb or buy the interface. I saw some plug ins that make it like an amp. But I think this goes back to interface. I also have a capture card and a usb c hub. So my other thought was I can just use garage band iPhone to this doc I have then to the capture card the to obs then stream on discord. The doc is meant for a steam deck but it has usb ports. And I got the capture card to stream my ps5 on discord.
'Preciate the love, Bro!!! 🫡
Ay, no doubt!! Thanks for the info. Quite a few people out here appreciate it. A selling point for some if you read the comments 🙏🍻
@LiftedNoise That's dope! I guess a lot of people (like myself) have been waiting on this feature. I'm guessing any and all MPCs released after the Key 37 will have it as well.
@bulletheadbeatz2296 didn't know I was missing it but I'm glad to know I've got it available.
That’s huge, because I wanted to do that with my live 2 and could not figure it out,
Time to put that tax return to work 🤣 👍
@@LiftedNoise 😅 Wifey gonna kill me. I’m good I love my live 2 the work around is my mission.
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how do i delete ran out free downloaded trial packs anyone ? from mpc key 37
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Can this be done in the key 61 too?
From what I've been told. No. You'll need an additional MIDI interface or USB to MIDI Cable. If you need a link to something like that, let me know.
@@LiftedNoise thanks for the information big bro. I don’t think I’m there yet but it’s good to know that I have the feature for the future
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So you can control your daw in standalone mode with direct USB midi
i think that's what it means.
Exactly.
@LiftedNoise I really need to get a mpc key 37 now
@@victorcole990 😎 don't be shy and use the affiliate link 😉
@victorcole990 but seriously it's a nice experience if you love MPCs already, it's a focused environment
The Key 61 does the same thing bro.
As far as I know and have heard from a few sources, it is exclusively a key 37 hardware add-on. Are you sure what you are doing is the same process? In Standalone with a USB B cable
Um? I swear my MPC X already does exactly this. I'm confused AF.. maybe I don't understand the comment?
nope. put your mpc x in standalone and try to send midi out via usb. That function isnt there. its not in the key 61 either. I have the X and Live 2 also
@@tbonebeats6429true. Have Live2 and X and this is a pain.
I believe this feature is already on the Akai Force
I get what you guys mean now! Thanks for the clarification! Bro you don't even understand how much I wish that my MPC could access all my Kontakt plugins and stuff like Nexus & Omnisphere in standalone mode! That would be so fucking amazing! I hate the fact that that's not even a thing! Because of that, it makes it hard for me to want to use my MPC X over just continuing to use FL Studio!@@tbonebeats6429
Also has it on Bluetooth you plonk :)
That’s wack it got to be on all
🤣 should have been but nope.