Why did he put the bottom scraper on before the expander ? The scrapers are meant to sit on top of the little ridges on the top and bottom of the expander right ?
They’re going to eventually line up, they’ll rotate at around 6 revolutions per minute and at some point they’re going to be in line. Just have to have a way of venting the crankcase pressure that is created.
you mean a PCV system youre supposed to run on a street car? i gaurantee you it'll be way worse if you dont do this. and if you did it right it wont smoke
So I guess the octane value must take an incredible hit with blown and redurning through the EGR. It's a wonder that with these fuel mixtures, the vehicles even run. How can you say that the emissions are better?
Nice video, very instructive! But that's in the best world possible, actually piston rings rotates slightly due to engin inherent vibration.
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Shouldn't the expander ring go on before the two oil scraper rings? The scraper rings push against the expander ring as there is a lip on the inside of the expander ring on the bottom and top which is there for the top/bottom oil rings to keep the expander in place. Your video shows the first oil ring going in before the expander which I believe is incorrect. However I don't think your expander has this lip like I have on my BMW expander so it might be OK for your application
Anti thrust side would be intake side and thrust side would be exhaust side, then he tells to put 2nd ring to exhaust side but he signals the pin side that goes to the front of the engine and then 1st ring to intake and he signals the pin side that goes to the back of the engine, he don't know what he is saying or he is just talking about 2 valve v8's, but then he said it don't matter the cylinder amount inline 4 or V16, but it does matter the valve set up tho.
I have a question, so my pistons have a .200 oil Grove and I got some rings that supposedly match the oil Grove, when it's time to compress them into the cylinders they won't budge, is it the type of compressor I'm using? I've tried the fixed angle and the rachet type and the piston gets stuck as it's about to enter the bore. Does that mean I needa rebore the cylinders?
I think the gap of the ring was to small, make it a little bigger. Before you rebore the cylinders, you should check the clearance between the piston to the bore and you also can check your piston ring too before you put them to the piston
Usually the top ring has a curved edge instead of a 90 degree corner to allow oil to slide by. The second ring is usually a straight 90 degree edge on both sides where it contacts the cylinder wall.
People always sh*t the bead of rings, and placement of the gaps… They spin all around durning operation. Where you put them initially, is not where they will stay for ever… Set the first 2 up 180* from the other as you go up, like he said, every 90*…
I turn each ring 180 from one another I was taught not to line up a ring gap to a piston pin I know it don’t matter but 180 from one another is better then him doing oil rings 180 and the second ring only 90* from the oil ring gap why would u not go 180 from each gap ?????????
terrible ring installation method. You are scrapped the all piston rings dude. Did hear before about the bend over the rings and you are sure before did that?
Once you place the ring in the desired groove , you roll the rest of the ring on . The distortion on those rings displayed disturbed me .
Vefy informative good to know. Currently troubleshooting a po302 on my Subaru sti
@2:18 what is he doing????? look at that ring🤣
The instructions on the ring box say do not put any ring gap's on the thrust side of the piston
Is that the top or bottom of the prison
@@zam893 neither,
But dont the rings rotate so eventually they will end up on the thrust side at some point?
thanks lake
Can you explain "thrust side"? Thanks, TJ
Out side of piston
Loaded side of the piston during the combustion stroke.
Thanks. I probably should have known that.@@mikman7219
Piston not round it more cam shape. So there is surface that touching more on the cylinder bore, it’s called “thrust side”
Unless pinned rings rotate. You can't stop them from doing so.
What ensures, that the rings don't move the gaps during time?
Why did he put the bottom scraper on before the expander ? The scrapers are meant to sit on top of the little ridges on the top and bottom of the expander right ?
They’re going to eventually line up, they’ll rotate at around 6 revolutions per minute and at some point they’re going to be in line. Just have to have a way of venting the crankcase pressure that is created.
6 per minute?
you mean a PCV system youre supposed to run on a street car? i gaurantee you it'll be way worse if you dont do this. and if you did it right it wont smoke
Can I use the same technique on Diesel engine?
Super helpful, thank you
that hurts watching how you put the oil rings on lol. But your still the man
0:20 Hello, what is the best oil rings, 3 pieces or 2 pieces?
Great video, thanks!
So I guess the octane value must take an incredible hit with blown and redurning through the EGR. It's a wonder that with these fuel mixtures, the vehicles even run. How can you say that the emissions are better?
That would be blow-by and reburn. Spell check can be a pain
Good video!
Nice video, very instructive! But that's in the best world possible, actually piston rings rotates slightly due to engin inherent vibration.
Shouldn't the expander ring go on before the two oil scraper rings? The scraper rings push against the expander ring as there is a lip on the inside of the expander ring on the bottom and top which is there for the top/bottom oil rings to keep the expander in place. Your video shows the first oil ring going in before the expander which I believe is incorrect. However I don't think your expander has this lip like I have on my BMW expander so it might be OK for your application
Trying to understand. So, you are suggesting we place the top & 2nd ring gaps in line with the piston pin? Thanks.
i noticed that too i have never seen a manuel show that plus the way he wrestled those rings what a dope
Oh and I remember i have seen once a motorcycle piston with tiny anti rotation pins, so that they stay in place at very high rpms.
is it in 2stroke engine or 4 stroke engine??
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Aren’t stock piston rings already gapped to stock piston?
Thanks
Well that solved my question, do the rings move round when the motor is running.? And the man said that they do indeed.! I can stop worrying now.!
Why would there be blow by when they are aligned and when they are not. Pressure goes where it can go.
Anti thrust side would be intake side and thrust side would be exhaust side, then he tells to put 2nd ring to exhaust side but he signals the pin side that goes to the front of the engine and then 1st ring to intake and he signals the pin side that goes to the back of the engine, he don't know what he is saying or he is just talking about 2 valve v8's, but then he said it don't matter the cylinder amount inline 4 or V16, but it does matter the valve set up tho.
I have a question, so my pistons have a .200 oil Grove and I got some rings that supposedly match the oil Grove, when it's time to compress them into the cylinders they won't budge, is it the type of compressor I'm using? I've tried the fixed angle and the rachet type and the piston gets stuck as it's about to enter the bore. Does that mean I needa rebore the cylinders?
I think the gap of the ring was to small, make it a little bigger. Before you rebore the cylinders, you should check the clearance between the piston to the bore and you also can check your piston ring too before you put them to the piston
How can I know the first from the second ring ?
The first ring is the black ring its thinner than the second ring
@godsonnicholaus588 thank you
Usually the top ring has a curved edge instead of a 90 degree corner to allow oil to slide by. The second ring is usually a straight 90 degree edge on both sides where it contacts the cylinder wall.
What happens to diagrams?
People always sh*t the bead of rings, and placement of the gaps…
They spin all around durning operation. Where you put them initially, is not where they will stay for ever…
Set the first 2 up 180* from the other as you go up, like he said, every 90*…
my ebay pistons didn't come with instructions.
I turn each ring 180 from one another I was taught not to line up a ring gap to a piston pin I know it don’t matter but 180 from one another is better then him doing oil rings 180 and the second ring only 90* from the oil ring gap why would u not go 180 from each gap ?????????
Subaru ej257 pistons ringland failute above average. Brittle aluminum pistons
Its really hot today and my ring got stuck i cant get it off should i put my finger in the freezer?
Its not good to put the piston ring gap in line with geduion pin bro
so wrong mate you never put ring gap over guedon pin
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I just set them 180 from each other
Hi
Octain value must be dem
DON'T LISTEN TO THIS VIDEO. Consult with factory service manual for your application or contract the piston manufacturer.
That foo dont kno hot to install rings
terrible ring installation method. You are scrapped the all piston rings dude. Did hear before about the bend over the rings and you are sure before did that?
Cars guys just don't know how to read.
very helpful, thank you!