This channel should be funded by the Tekken Dev Team. You guys are showing and doing more of there job in such an amazing way by showing and demonstrating the new mechanics
@@lpgaming838 It's a kind of trade off reminiscient of the old days of patching games by sending letters to the devs. Tekken thrives and survives off of this back and forth between the community and the developers. The lack of knowledge spread out from the game and devs being explained by the community is a way of building up next generations to preserve the "culture" of Tekken, so to say.
@@lpgaming838 I think thats how much companies operate. They let their community explore their creativity. It's almost like an indirect exploitation of their community.
damn people love to whine and be negative, like the wise man already said, its better this way, content creators get views, and keep their freedom, you cry babies have no clue
Sorry for the low amount of money. The only option bigger than this is ZAR 350 which I can't afford at the moment. Just wanted say thank you for doing great work.
The main objective of this stun is to give certain charecters lots of frame advantage where they often dont get much, and remove some other charecters' wall splatting ability with certain moves. Its a buff and a nerf delending on who and what move it works with. Shows how much of a contrast all the charecters were and r with each other in the game when the same property can be both terrible and awesome depending on the charecter.
So far it seems mostly a big buff to a couple characters that didnt need it, a nerf to a few that didnt deserve it, and a big nothing burger to a lot of the others.
For King and Paul, it's kind useless Paul have to charge this d+1,2 to get the wall stagger King it is ss+3+4 which leave him on the ground and he got only to option... unless Lil Majin shows us some workaround
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It's not really complicated at all. Just a new ballerina stun, with a different animation, that works only at the wall, and for some characters it works on block.
@@grahamjl766 You can leapfrog ahead of most other beginner/low skill players simply by learning how to backdash to create space, then whiff punishing whatever moves they carelessly throw out.
@@Scorpio7500 I legit described the new wall crush mechanic but in short. Just like a ballerina stun, it gives plus frames, this time if you hit a wall it gives almost double the plus frames. During the stun the opponent can decide how to block the upcoming attack, but most likely cannot use a move themselves. Doesn't give anything guaranteed. They work extremely similar, except wall stun has incresed effect if you hit the wall clearly. Other than this, the only difference is that some characters like Claudio, can wall stun even if the opponent blocks. Like his wr2
@@EggscellentTree nah it's useless, that punish was already incredibly niche. Doing a -14 move with your back to the wall is already mad rare, and now the move pushes back too far to pressure after in the open lmao. It actually got nerfed. But yeah King's is still somehow worse lol
@@professionalhater3929 You people are so quick to judge new things and cry like little babies without even testing them out first. King's new wall stunt gives you 21-23 plus frames and his wake up kicks, both low and mid start at 19 frames. Yes, the low version is launch punishable and mid is -14, but saying that it's completely useless is an overstatement. He's already got a god-like wall pressure anyway, so it's not like he needs this, but I don't think that your opponents for the majority of time will try to challenge your plus frames.
no, it's mostly been used to nerf moves that used to wall splat (political storm, jin ws3) and buff moves by making it apply this property on block (drag ff3, Claudio wr2, etc.)
@@lassi1203 ah ok, i had hoped they removed that other mechanic completely as it looks ridiculous, and it also bloats the game to have too much mechanics
Bryan was potentially the character that would reward the most with this new mechanic because of taunt, he would become broken. That's why they give wall stunt to a slow useless Move like ff3*
You have no idea how dangerous FF3 was even before this. A delayable knockdown that sits perfectly in a timing wormhole where you can catch someone second guessing and carry them right to a wall for big damage on hit and keep your turn if they block. This puts more fear into the opponent and encourages more defense at the wall but now with a 50/50 that will straight up murder you. This is good stuff but requires a sharp mind and player knowledge.
@@swiat_wg_igora thats the game's fault though, they should show the 2 different types of minus frames in different colors to differentiate them!!! bamco actually made people pay for this as dlc lol
I can't be the only one who's reminded of Virtua Fighter am I? I recognize that this new mechanic doesn't exactly work the same way, but it is reminiscent of VF4/5 animation-wise imo.
@@tiger-rgn I can't link a video because my comment will be removed instantly, however, I recommend you just search "Virtua Fighter Stagger" on RUclips, you'll find a good video showing the VF5 stagger animation, it really looks a lot like the new Tekken stagger from this update.
@@LordRaptor wel, that would not surprise me as tekken got inspiration from vf, and vf also has some lovely animations (minus some old recycled ones) overall; vf's animations look so good, i hope tekken 8's becomes as good as those!
@@CDages Technically, Tekken 1's team consisted of ex Sega employees who happened to work on VF1, so it goes far beyond just inspiration and more towards these games being siblings, created from the vision of mostly the same people, but yeah, it seems like Tekken as a series is still taking inspiration from Virtua Fighter to this day, even with VF being basically dormant these days and it isn't surprising if you've heard Harada talk about VF.
it's not guaranteed , it's a mixup. you can try b4 on an enemy. then if opponent freeze expecting the knee, you can try hatchet or even taunt. but nothing guaranteed
I'm very glad they're finally making the wall alot more threatening for the player with their back against it. Not only is there the looming threat of a wall bounce a range 2-3, but also a wall crush when they close the gap. Players are going to feel much less inclined to duck now at the wall, and that'll make risky lows all the more fun to use.
I get what youre saying but most of these are nerfed moves that would previously wallsplat and i dont think any mid that does this on block is below 30 frames so ducking is usually a better option here especially vs characters like claudio or akuma
Bryans version seems legit Also a question? Why is namco shiting on heihachi so much!? Tbh he has fucked up a lot over the years. Rip, will miss my noobsmasher aka Heihachi Mishima!
This is the most sorriest mechanic you can put into this game. Harada wanna compete with Virtua Fighter so bad and still can’t get it right lmao. This shit weak af and every nerf they dropped too.
My set up is guaranteed better do your research people they’ve hidden more into this mechanic than you realize it’ll be enough to hold us over online and offline until Tekken 8 for sure
Ballerina spin is similar to this too. It's why shit like Lee ws2,4 into f3 sometimes looks like a natural combo: it's just your opponent forgetting to hold back.
This mechanic is dogshit. Literally no one has to even attempt wall pressure when you can just use these generic moved to force a 5050 , a plus on block move means fuck all now. At the wall in comparison. Everyone will have the same exact pressure
They nerfed Fahkumram too much. Far too much. I felt he was balanced (he struggles against quite a lot of characters and the majority of his moves were already punishable, you just had to lab him a bit. To reduce my favourite character I paid for to almost unplayable at this late in the game is just stupid while characters with high damage/combo outputs get boosted. I won't be purchasing Tekken 8. .
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This channel should be funded by the Tekken Dev Team. You guys are showing and doing more of there job in such an amazing way by showing and demonstrating the new mechanics
Nah, the problem with being funded by corporations is that he would lose his freedom to post what he wants that's best for the community.
@@tre-moon-dous6122 I know thats one downside to it. But it’s even worse how tekken has these content creators basically doing there jobs for them
@@lpgaming838 It's a kind of trade off reminiscient of the old days of patching games by sending letters to the devs. Tekken thrives and survives off of this back and forth between the community and the developers. The lack of knowledge spread out from the game and devs being explained by the community is a way of building up next generations to preserve the "culture" of Tekken, so to say.
@@lpgaming838 I think thats how much companies operate. They let their community explore their creativity. It's almost like an indirect exploitation of their community.
damn people love to whine and be negative, like the wise man already said, its better this way, content creators get views, and keep their freedom, you cry babies have no clue
It’s not much but I really appreciate all that you do for us tekken fans
Much appreciated!
@@ThatBlastedSalami ofc!😼🙌🏽
I am highly impressed by the quality of your videos on your channel! The tekken community needs a person like you! Keep up the good work Arya!
Thank you very much! I'm humbled.
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Thank you very much, and please don't apologise! We deeply appreciate this.
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The main objective of this stun is to give certain charecters lots of frame advantage where they often dont get much, and remove some other charecters' wall splatting ability with certain moves.
Its a buff and a nerf delending on who and what move it works with. Shows how much of a contrast all the charecters were and r with each other in the game when the same property can be both terrible and awesome depending on the charecter.
So far it seems mostly a big buff to a couple characters that didnt need it, a nerf to a few that didnt deserve it, and a big nothing burger to a lot of the others.
@@JonathonTheAsshole Agree!
@@JonathonTheAsshole I mean, one example of a character who gets a big buff off this is Kuma. If you think HE doesn't deserve a buff...
For King and Paul, it's kind useless
Paul have to charge this d+1,2 to get the wall stagger
King it is ss+3+4 which leave him on the ground and he got only to option... unless Lil Majin shows us some workaround
Is this the best way to support? Or is there a different platform that gives you a higher cut?
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Well that was quick
Rip Fujin Uraken
Thankyou so much al the other videos on this were 10+min
Thank god for this new mechanic, Tekken simply wasnt technical enough as is
It's not really complicated at all. Just a new ballerina stun, with a different animation, that works only at the wall, and for some characters it works on block.
@@princekanbatsu2301 Tell that to someone just starting lol. This is just another layer to the 1000's Tekken possesses.
@@grahamjl766 You can leapfrog ahead of most other beginner/low skill players simply by learning how to backdash to create space, then whiff punishing whatever moves they carelessly throw out.
@@princekanbatsu2301 I legitimately can't tell if you're serious or not 😂😭
@@Scorpio7500 I legit described the new wall crush mechanic but in short.
Just like a ballerina stun, it gives plus frames, this time if you hit a wall it gives almost double the plus frames.
During the stun the opponent can decide how to block the upcoming attack, but most likely cannot use a move themselves.
Doesn't give anything guaranteed.
They work extremely similar, except wall stun has incresed effect if you hit the wall clearly.
Other than this, the only difference is that some characters like Claudio, can wall stun even if the opponent blocks.
Like his wr2
Best Tekken channel fo sure
not only tekken, its an al round great fg channel
The new wall crush reminds me of VF wall stun tbh
Heihachi's wall stun move is completely useless💀
Think that's useless? Check out Hwoarang's
@@grantgarbour Not too bad , he has no wall splat at -14 anyway lol
Y’all think that’s useless?? Check out king’s, he puts himself a in a 50/50….
@@EggscellentTree nah it's useless, that punish was already incredibly niche. Doing a -14 move with your back to the wall is already mad rare, and now the move pushes back too far to pressure after in the open lmao. It actually got nerfed. But yeah King's is still somehow worse lol
Have you seen Ganryu's?!
How can you get +17 and not get anything guaranteed? There are moves that are 17 frames and less. Could someone please explain. Thanks.
Awesome Work Arya! take care!♥♥♥♥
If you ever thought these are useless, look at King's and Kuma's.
Gigachad King putting himself in 50/50 to disrespect his opponent
But King's move is safe now
Kuma is viable now?
@@gokublacktekken6166 It went from completely fucking useless to completely useless what a buff
@@professionalhater3929 You people are so quick to judge new things and cry like little babies without even testing them out first. King's new wall stunt gives you 21-23 plus frames and his wake up kicks, both low and mid start at 19 frames. Yes, the low version is launch punishable and mid is -14, but saying that it's completely useless is an overstatement.
He's already got a god-like wall pressure anyway, so it's not like he needs this, but I don't think that your opponents for the majority of time will try to challenge your plus frames.
Thanks for the quick update!
This will definitely help improve my wall game by the ton!!! Thanks for explaining this more clearly 💪🏿
wall crush into taunt boutta go crazy
Fahkumram has wall crush as well we can’t forget about that
never seen that Heihachi move
Now that they nerfed Lidia,I may actually choose to play her
Ill be waiting for the characters overview :3
Bryan is the true boss of this patch
That was fast!
Would a splat be the better option though? Is there a situation where this would lead to an optimal damage combo?
no, it's mostly been used to nerf moves that used to wall splat (political storm, jin ws3) and buff moves by making it apply this property on block (drag ff3, Claudio wr2, etc.)
I thought you gonna do A BIG EPIC RECAP VIDEO of every change and quick thought of how this Impact the character
In one day ok
I would note that on this advantage most lows will be unparriable
The background song is a banger. Name please?
For some reason, after the update, the damn game stutters randomly
Noticed the same thing. Well it isn't a Tekken update if the game doesn't get even more fucked in a technical part
Can’t wait for the next TEKKEN
Virtua Tekken 👀
Can u do a longer Video about this new mechanic please?
We'll cover Wall Crush in more detail and our thoughts on it in an upcoming Version 5 Overview video.
@@ThatBlastedSalami Version 5 Character Overviews whe... I'm kidding 🙂
No wall splat for jin now ?
what does the g behind the frame data mean?
Guardable
@@ThatBlastedSalami ah ok thank you :)
Hmm I see some throw set ups here 🤔
Didnt Know They Nerfed Jins Kick
why does your tekken look so high def, what mod is that?
So it's like hitting someone with a RD against the wall that has pushback
NO this is WALL CRUSH
Kind of, like paul RD on block
imagins bryan do a wall stun and then taunt jet
........oh i gotta see this myself vacation from tekken ova bet
anyone know the name of the song used in this vid
Oooo Bryan players got the best wall crush, real 5050 block low hook or eat b4 tju lol 😂
Tekken devs: We buffed THE WALL
Not guaranteed even on hit ?
did this replace the old wall rebound mechanic?
only on some moves. not all
@@lassi1203 ah ok, i had hoped they removed that other mechanic completely as it looks ridiculous, and it also bloats the game to have too much mechanics
That crush on block will be annoying
Bryan was potentially the character that would reward the most with this new mechanic because of taunt, he would become broken. That's why they give wall stunt to a slow useless Move like ff3*
You have no idea how dangerous FF3 was even before this. A delayable knockdown that sits perfectly in a timing wormhole where you can catch someone second guessing and carry them right to a wall for big damage on hit and keep your turn if they block. This puts more fear into the opponent and encourages more defense at the wall but now with a 50/50 that will straight up murder you. This is good stuff but requires a sharp mind and player knowledge.
@@LukemDakuwa ff3 gang tbh, I always felt like for how good it can potentially be it's always under used by people
This mechanic should have existed instead of Wall Bounce. It seems more grounded in its approach, and not all Wall Bounces are viable.
pretty sick
How come nothing is guaranteed if quite a bit of them leave your opponent at -10 or even more?
this aint new, it means for 10 frames you still can defend, but you cant attack
thats the difference!
@@tiger-rgn gotcha, thanks for clarification 😀
@@swiat_wg_igora thats the game's fault though, they should show the 2 different types of minus frames in different colors to differentiate them!!!
bamco actually made people pay for this as dlc lol
I dont even know what to do after Lee's
True. No fast power lows like some characters. Was hoping he'd get a stronger 50/50 game to compliment his slide mix-up.
I can't be the only one who's reminded of Virtua Fighter am I? I recognize that this new mechanic doesn't exactly work the same way, but it is reminiscent of VF4/5 animation-wise imo.
vid?
@@tiger-rgn I can't link a video because my comment will be removed instantly, however, I recommend you just search "Virtua Fighter Stagger" on RUclips, you'll find a good video showing the VF5 stagger animation, it really looks a lot like the new Tekken stagger from this update.
@@LordRaptor wel, that would not surprise me as tekken got inspiration from vf, and vf also has some lovely animations (minus some old recycled ones) overall; vf's animations look so good, i hope tekken 8's becomes as good as those!
Tekken has fundamentally taken inspiration from VF since Day 1.
Its just Fact.
@@CDages Technically, Tekken 1's team consisted of ex Sega employees who happened to work on VF1, so it goes far beyond just inspiration and more towards these games being siblings, created from the vision of mostly the same people, but yeah, it seems like Tekken as a series is still taking inspiration from Virtua Fighter to this day, even with VF being basically dormant these days and it isn't surprising if you've heard Harada talk about VF.
Fast as always
I've always thought this channel has a million subscribers.
How the heck does his subscriber count has ONE less Zero?
yoshimitsu gets guaranteed unblockable I think
Nope
Yup eyemusician had a funny post on it 😆 ruclips.net/video/lz1D3MZQejQ/видео.html
why would they add an entirely new mechanic this late into the games lifespan...
Yessss aryyaaaaa
Awesome.
freaking bryan DOES get a guarantee taunt launcher, wtf? as if his wall pressure wasnt ridiculous enough
If they weren't pressing for his kick they wouldn't have been pressing for his faster taunt
He doesn’t get a guaranteed taunt
it's not guaranteed , it's a mixup. you can try b4 on an enemy. then if opponent freeze expecting the knee, you can try hatchet or even taunt. but nothing guaranteed
@@superslavbross9935 oh really, i hope so
doing gods work sir
Akuma gets plus 17💀 I'm going back to dbfz
And now lars has a low startup wall stun BWAHAHAH
I don't understand how you can be +17 and still don't have anything guaranteed..
You should make videos like this into a short. Heard those were good with the algorithm
We do! Will upload the short version later.
I'm very glad they're finally making the wall alot more threatening for the player with their back against it. Not only is there the looming threat of a wall bounce a range 2-3, but also a wall crush when they close the gap. Players are going to feel much less inclined to duck now at the wall, and that'll make risky lows all the more fun to use.
I get what youre saying but most of these are nerfed moves that would previously wallsplat and i dont think any mid that does this on block is below 30 frames so ducking is usually a better option here especially vs characters like claudio or akuma
Bryans version seems legit
Also a question?
Why is namco shiting on heihachi so much!?
Tbh he has fucked up a lot over the years.
Rip, will miss my noobsmasher aka
Heihachi Mishima!
Garbage patch lol. Just gonna go back to sleep until T8.
So they nerfed jin huh 🙃
yup
And kazuya
This is the most sorriest mechanic you can put into this game. Harada wanna compete with Virtua Fighter so bad and still can’t get it right lmao. This shit weak af and every nerf they dropped too.
My set up is guaranteed better do your research people they’ve hidden more into this mechanic than you realize it’ll be enough to hold us over online and offline until Tekken 8 for sure
Lee ?
Hitman 1+2
I smell Tekken 4
Yaaay kazuya nerfs !
Just what we needed !!!! Tkx !!!
Wait, you’re at least +10 and at point blank range after a wall crush but nothing is guaranteed? What?
There are plenty of attacks that give more than +10 but the opponent can still block, but it's the ONLY action they can perform while in that state
Ballerina spin is similar to this too. It's why shit like Lee ws2,4 into f3 sometimes looks like a natural combo: it's just your opponent forgetting to hold back.
Unecessary change.
Pretty shit update but at least tekken youtubers have something to upload now
This just makes game so dependent on wall map its almost a different game compared to infinite. Doesn't look cool, 50/50 guessing mech sucks.
This new mechanic is just disappointing 😞. Still no reason to play until T8
Wait nothing is guaranteed?
That's meh imo
King's wall stun is a joke !!! We getting robbed
Yea certain wall stun moves make absolutely no sense.
@@LydellG4 damn right ! It's like who gonna SS 3+4 !? When you try a 50/50 and get 50/50ed yourself 🤣🤣🤣
Tekken tip: do not even bother with this gimmick that Bamco thinks is amazing
This mechanic is dogshit. Literally no one has to even attempt wall pressure when you can just use these generic moved to force a 5050 , a plus on block move means fuck all now. At the wall in comparison. Everyone will have the same exact pressure
I hate it, they should have done this in T8 and not in T7.
This is taking part of the game's personality to something basic and unnecessary.
New system is unfair and sxxk
pointless change
I desperately need Tekken 8. I don't want to be stuck with the game where broken Feng didn't got nerfed.
+Zafina didn't get nerfed. I don't think we even need to mention our Lord Akuma
The new mechanic is shit.
They nerfed Fahkumram too much. Far too much. I felt he was balanced (he struggles against quite a lot of characters and the majority of his moves were already punishable, you just had to lab him a bit. To reduce my favourite character I paid for to almost unplayable at this late in the game is just stupid while characters with high damage/combo outputs get boosted. I won't be purchasing Tekken 8.
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Useless Mechanic.
bound would been good
no thx
Useless Mechanic.
bound would been good