Path of Exile 2 MASSIVE Trigger/Meta Gem Nerf?! (Comet & Cast on Freeze)

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  • Опубликовано: 16 дек 2024

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  • @dyssano
    @dyssano 5 дней назад +46

    fun detected nerf expected

  • @kurosujiomake
    @kurosujiomake 5 дней назад +17

    This change isnt addressing the real issue which is that most spells just dont do damage compared to attack skills, and comet being the only good damage one has a really long cast time. This extra long cast time is not rewarded with oneshotting bosses like mace skills, and is functionally useless in pack clearing. This is why almost every spell build was running cast on something comet, it was the only way to get close to the clear speed or boss dmg as attacking builds. The real change needed is buffing spell damage so people can actually build around spells

    • @DominikPficner-ts4re
      @DominikPficner-ts4re 5 дней назад +2

      True i am fully build cold dmg / freeze now and there is no other cold spell that deal dmg enough to reach endgame. My comet separately witgout CoF had 6000 dps when frostbolt or freezing shards had 500.. it's unplayable now and i don't want to spend another 10h juicing another build. I literally have to create new character cuz i can't clear content efficiently. I am a student and don't have time for this shit. They should have warned us few days earlier.. it was not a nerf cof is completely gutted and trash as fuck.

    • @ZrB1638
      @ZrB1638 5 дней назад

      There are still plenty of viable frost builds that are quite strong. I run an unleashed gelid staff for freeze buildup, cast on freeze Cold Snap with as many damage mods as possible. Frost orb exposure + hypothermia + flame wall and mana tempest for ailment bonuses and Uber buffed comet. Requires setup, but makes quick work of bosses, and completely overkill for trash

    • @BluPhoenix
      @BluPhoenix  5 дней назад +1

      100%, I tested Comet without using Cast on Freeze and was immediately like "NOPE, that'll never work..." The cast time is BRUTAL, but it's one of the few big damage sources we had.

    • @sphixion
      @sphixion 5 дней назад +1

      @@BluPhoenix Yup. They should've reduced the cast time if they were going to nerf the cast on freeze so bad. Ok you don't want me to trigger it too easily, let me cast it effectively. Or leave the mechanics alone and nerf the damage output from cast on freeze. So ya know, people who invested heavily into the build aren't fudge outta luck.

    • @BluPhoenix
      @BluPhoenix  5 дней назад

      @@sphixion completely agree

  • @simwark
    @simwark 5 дней назад +25

    At this point, if they are going to nerf things this bad so often they at least give us a one time tree reset each major patch...

    • @Gris00
      @Gris00 5 дней назад +3

      Tons of people were saying that in global chat, and frankly that is pretty fair. What GGG is doing ESPECIALLY this early into Early Access is pretty arbitrary considering the difficulty already

    • @BluPhoenix
      @BluPhoenix  5 дней назад +2

      I completely agree. I think free resets should be given when there are large nerfs, or the respec cost should be reduced, because right now it can get very expensive with the level scaling if you need to change your passives around a lot.

    • @ZyKOBalrog
      @ZyKOBalrog 5 дней назад +1

      you mages dont deserve shit when you still destroy maps like nothing while warriors and contagion witches cant compare in dmg

    • @axo4383
      @axo4383 5 дней назад +2

      The bricking of Characters is gonna kill this game so hard. They kinda slipped this patch but the next time wont be happy. This game is also already losing it's steam on streamers and new players.
      I'm actually currently really scared to play or build anything in this game currently..

  • @kimball4699
    @kimball4699 5 дней назад +18

    For sure they "overtuned" the nerf, lets hope it gets tweaked again to get it somehwere in the middle...

  • @scrobinja8566
    @scrobinja8566 5 дней назад +43

    Literally spent the last 25 hours working toward this build. Annoying.

    • @pilotfalcon
      @pilotfalcon 5 дней назад

      me too..Now I will stop playing sorcerer ! annoying !

    • @Jpzthemann
      @Jpzthemann 5 дней назад +9

      the game is in early acces, you should be aware of this changes lots

    • @scrobinja8566
      @scrobinja8566 5 дней назад +2

      @@Jpzthemann I do think it should have been nerfed, but not this. Put it on a cooldown or less damage. 16 seconds, and it can be halved with a gem. Every 8 seconds and nerfed with the gem isn't broken.I think it will probably be buffed again, people are annoyed at this change, not to mention the extremely high respec cost. Great game though, I'm definitely enjoying myself. Its GOTY for me, but anyway still annoying.

    • @youngcracker9517
      @youngcracker9517 5 дней назад

      @@Jpzthemannya we should’ve gotten free respecs though

    • @ReudenFlint
      @ReudenFlint 5 дней назад

      Doto

  • @th3morontv376
    @th3morontv376 5 дней назад +4

    just got my complete setup yesterday, and now its nerfed ... what a bummer.

    • @Gris00
      @Gris00 5 дней назад

      Same here, it was a real pissoff

  • @reckless111
    @reckless111 5 дней назад +5

    But cast on freeze is just not cast on freeze if u know what I'm saying. Like when I freeze an enemy, it should cast

    • @Gris00
      @Gris00 5 дней назад +1

      True, at the same time the energy mechanic isn't that bad. All it takes is one extra support gem and the two notable energy focused passives in the top right which give pretty massive boosts when taken together

    • @DthScythe01
      @DthScythe01 5 дней назад

      Its sometimes cast on freeze. Just doesn't have the same ring to it lol.

  • @Dimivnv
    @Dimivnv 5 дней назад +4

    If they don't fix this somewhere in the middle, i'm personally not coming back in the game. Period.

    • @DominikPficner-ts4re
      @DominikPficner-ts4re 5 дней назад +4

      +1 nerf damage not cast rate.. cast on freeze should be casted on freeze.. not every 7 freezes

    • @BluPhoenix
      @BluPhoenix  5 дней назад +1

      I think they will adjust and it will land somewhere in the middle, seems like they had a bit of a kneejerk reaction

  • @maksbed4257
    @maksbed4257 5 дней назад +5

    That was a really bad way to tackle this build, they should have kept normal stacking but decrease triggered spells damage. Now thousands of players have to reroll or will leave the game out of frustration. They could have increased trigger rate so you have to invest more into cooldown recovery or just decrease triggered spells by like 50%, atleast ppl could still play the game.

  • @leonm4her1
    @leonm4her1 5 дней назад +1

    Shouldn't they buff fire when they nerf frost? I have been looking online for a fire build for sorc, but I couldnt find anything.

    • @BluPhoenix
      @BluPhoenix  5 дней назад +1

      Yeah, I think that's the bigger problem, it seems like people are gravitating toward certain builds not just because they are "overpowered" but because a lot of the other builds don't seem too viable/effective. I think they should look to buff the lower performing builds more before nerfing the outliers - in most cases at least, I totally understand them nerfing that Warrior build that was 1-shotting bosses, for example.

  • @nouyze
    @nouyze 5 дней назад +1

    Im a Chronomancer any ideas for a different build, the frost wall ist pretty good dps but the only setup I found was with fireball and heavy crit chance gear so idk

    • @BluPhoenix
      @BluPhoenix  5 дней назад +1

      Do you mean other than cold/frost completely? I haven't played Chronomancer, but I still feel relatively effective as Stormweaver by putting points into cold damage and freeze buildup, and manually triggering Cold Snap to deal quite a bit of damage, with Comet triggers as just a little bonus damage. If you're looking for alternatives to Cold, I've heard there's a decent Lightning build, but I haven't had a chance to try it out myself yet

    • @nouyze
      @nouyze 5 дней назад +1

      ​@@BluPhoenix I have no gold so im kinda stuck on cold builds, I try something now with frost walls and fire ball

    • @BluPhoenix
      @BluPhoenix  5 дней назад +1

      @@nouyze Gotcha, well goodluck! Like I said, I've found it's still not too bad, not as powerful as it was, but can still be decent. And worst case scenario you should still be able to farm up some gold to respec (even if that means going back a zone or two for easier enemies) if you need to. If it comes to that, hopefully they adjust respec costs before you have to

    • @nouyze
      @nouyze 5 дней назад +1

      @ Yeah Ty for the response, The damage is still there but it's so slow in clearing, Boss dmg still insane tho

  • @boqiu7730
    @boqiu7730 5 дней назад +4

    ye right I spent last week on gem trigger build for nothing now😂

  • @ryder9401
    @ryder9401 5 дней назад +7

    wated my time building this build smh, they pulled a D4 dev move just like season 0 when d4 started

    • @Tana05
      @Tana05 5 дней назад

      ha! nicely said!

  • @BogomirJamnikar
    @BogomirJamnikar 5 дней назад +1

    I am not so far into the build yet, started workimg towards it, any suggestions for alternative path to stay in cold build?

    • @DiegoSenge
      @DiegoSenge 5 дней назад

      They literally have 0 others good skills. the rest is just meh.

    • @Yivo_Elela
      @Yivo_Elela 5 дней назад +3

      Ice wall is stronger than most people think, at least with chronomancer.
      It aggro monsters, melt bosses and combine with frost bomb with spell echo, frost bomb cause exposure, use the passive perk that reduce ice wall health in 60% and you can explode those walls with one frost bomb, when ice wall explode they cause damage, with chronomancer you can stack a lot ice walls, but it is not a "one button build" so many people won't like it.
      I didn't like comet build like everyone was doing, just not fun for me, there is plenty of other options, this nerf was expected

    • @BogomirJamnikar
      @BogomirJamnikar 5 дней назад

      I have no problem with no one button build, will definitely try this, just ready to do asend, so not all is lost. Ty for the tip!

    • @BluPhoenix
      @BluPhoenix  5 дней назад +1

      I'm still having a pretty good time with mostly the same build, using Frostbolt with Scattershot and Deceleration, which shoots out 3 balls of ice that can then freeze enemies, and using Cold Snap to shatter frozen enemies, or directly on the frostbolts for extra damage. I also use Frost Bomb with Deep Freeze and Fast Forward for bonus damage/freeze buildup, and Frost Wall with Icicle.

  • @kikatchu1087
    @kikatchu1087 5 дней назад +8

    I get the nerf. But I just can't clear anymore.
    Went from a cast on every freeze to a cast on every 20 freeze for trash mobs. Makes clear quite bad.
    Woulda been fine with a cast every 5 freeze

    • @Antiquated-Ether
      @Antiquated-Ether 5 дней назад

      Imagine using a skill with high CD to clear 😅

    • @kikatchu1087
      @kikatchu1087 5 дней назад

      @@Antiquated-Ether It has no CD what the hell are you talking about

  • @meyatetana2973
    @meyatetana2973 5 дней назад +4

    You know they want to make every power matter however their bosses says something different, Their overly powerful boss fights force players to look up the meta and go with it because in most cases it's only way you're going to progress any you go at some of these bosses and lose and voice your complaint all I hear is your build is screwed up. If all powers matter then build should not matter but it does. They need to nerf their bosses so all skills matter.

    • @Gris00
      @Gris00 5 дней назад +1

      You make a good point, I don't think GGG is fully aware of how hard their game actually is and how these changes really affect players from a first person perspective. Hopefully they tone down their nerfing and make more simple and balanced compromises, rather than destroying entire builds in just one update

    • @BluPhoenix
      @BluPhoenix  5 дней назад

      Yeah, I think they may have missed the point that the reason so many people were gravitating toward it wasn't because it was OP, but rather because it was one of the few spells that felt powerful and competent to keep up with the game

    • @kilowhisperer5057
      @kilowhisperer5057 5 дней назад +3

      In before the "YoU JUsT WaNNa ONeShOt EVerYThinG and the GO PlAy DiABlo 4" as that seems to be the only argument they have to valid criticism. Gotta love the GGG honeymoon glazers.

    • @TheBlakamon15
      @TheBlakamon15 5 дней назад

      ​@@kilowhisperer5057I always find that excuse hilarious especially back when d4 first came out, not many builds was viable and was hard to get through the game.

  • @Tikerusey
    @Tikerusey 5 дней назад

    just respecct into a fire build with my witch to go demon form firecaster an went cast on ignite comet.... now i cant even built up ignite with detonate dead 1200dps count... Firespells are so useless right now that the ignites no longer count

    • @BluPhoenix
      @BluPhoenix  5 дней назад

      Before this nerf, were you enjoying Witch/Infernalist? I've been thinking about trying out Witch soon

  • @vindictivetiger
    @vindictivetiger День назад +1

    It was too much. They already have a cruel class starting out. It didn't need to be nerfed back to stupid.

    • @BluPhoenix
      @BluPhoenix  День назад

      I'm honestly surprised they haven't at least partially reverted the change, or adjusted in some way. I was expecting them to after I played a bit more because it does feel a LOT weaker now, and I saw some other videos that it looks like the same change broke some cast on shock builds for some classes making them WAY more powerful than they were before. I've since started playing Ranger and have felt stronger than I ever did on Sorceress.

  • @aabenhus
    @aabenhus 5 дней назад +2

    I was getting close to switching from Lightning to Frost. Guess it's not gonna be worth it now. To bad, it looked fun.

    • @Gris00
      @Gris00 5 дней назад

      Here's an idea, go Mana-man. The passive tree has lots of perfect mana synergies that exploit mana/lightning and if you convert it to frost using Call of The Brotherhood ring it can make a gnarly build

    • @BluPhoenix
      @BluPhoenix  5 дней назад

      At least it happened before you spent the money!

  • @matthewdeklerk3457
    @matthewdeklerk3457 4 дня назад

    The reason why they invented these Cast on X supports was to free people from cast on crit and cast on channel. But hey, our fault for experimenting too much

  • @Nitens90
    @Nitens90 5 дней назад

    If they don’t give a respec i’m gonna be mad forever

  • @ivaylosavov5060
    @ivaylosavov5060 5 дней назад +4

    GGG turned ti blizzard in just 1 fix patch what a shame

    • @sane0matic
      @sane0matic 5 дней назад

      if you really think that, you should be ashamed for posting this nonsense

  • @alexViera0314
    @alexViera0314 5 дней назад

    I'm not playing a sorcerer but I've played 3 other classes and a variety of builds and the old automated sorcerer was way out of line in terms of power compared to all the other builds. With this change, the build now looks strong but not OP

    • @BluPhoenix
      @BluPhoenix  5 дней назад

      I've seen some other pretty OP builds, but it definitely was one of the outliers, and agree that it's still pretty strong, just requires a little different playstyle/approach now

  • @eaglerock6203
    @eaglerock6203 5 дней назад

    Anyone know the best go to sorcerer build now? Lightning?

    • @BluPhoenix
      @BluPhoenix  5 дней назад

      I'm still having decent luck with cold, freezing them the same way and using cold snap to kill. It's not as effective, but still decent, imo. I've heard Lightning is pretty good but haven't had a chance to try myself yet.

  • @DejvidR6
    @DejvidR6 5 дней назад +1

    well im glad they did it now.. was just about refund my passive skills to go into that build😅

  • @steamh4mmer264
    @steamh4mmer264 5 дней назад

    Couldnt they just give it a 1 second cooldown or something

  • @xspindrift8737
    @xspindrift8737 5 дней назад

    GGG we wqant you to experiment and try different builds and this is how we think is fun, the core of the game will be refarming gold on Act 1 until you get enogh gold to respec.

  • @jiexmark1
    @jiexmark1 5 дней назад

    I start enjoying poe2 fir time yesterday, when respec my fcking caster-gameplay bloodmage to trigger-meta gems with comet, after few hours of playing and have fun(i've played 64h already) they fucking kill my build.
    amazing expirience in this beta, I regret I spend money on this after patch. killing everything that gives you fun is so "GGG-like" move

    • @BluPhoenix
      @BluPhoenix  5 дней назад

      That's brutal, hoping they adjust respecs soon. Also have heard quite a few people having a rough time with Blood Mage, so maybe that'll get a buff 🤞

  • @ItachiTheAnbu
    @ItachiTheAnbu 5 дней назад +1

    Ok sry but my poe jurny looks like this playd witch with minions finde cast on minion death sart automating my srs. Boom nerf . So i start sorc . Play ice finde cast on freez and boom nerf. Im unhappy really those spirit gems are not easy tofinde and neather are the socket item to get more sokets on skills
    Long story short i lost all my progress all my gems and gold for two builds now😢

    • @theemperorV1
      @theemperorV1 5 дней назад +1

      Ok, what are you going to play next, so we don’t play it🤣

    • @BluPhoenix
      @BluPhoenix  5 дней назад

      Balancing changes are to be expected, but yeah that's brutal... hoping they at least change how they are approaching respecs, if nothing else for the Early Access until they figure out some of the balancing

  • @709dave
    @709dave 5 дней назад +3

    Name of spell changed from "cast on x" to "dont cast on x"

    • @BluPhoenix
      @BluPhoenix  5 дней назад

      Fair, I tried to use it by manually casting was was an instant no-go, takes far too long, just not worth it

  • @rCrypto_Frog4148
    @rCrypto_Frog4148 5 дней назад

    I just got comet spell :(

    • @BluPhoenix
      @BluPhoenix  5 дней назад +1

      =/ I at least got a couple days of fun with it, here's hoping they buff it to be somewhere in the middle so it's still worth taking

    • @rCrypto_Frog4148
      @rCrypto_Frog4148 5 дней назад

      @@BluPhoenix Im just now spamming ice walls and hard casting comet. Comet does soo much damage with ice walls exploding! Just hard cast it! It's actually inexpensive with the gem that cuts mana in half.

    • @BluPhoenix
      @BluPhoenix  4 дня назад +1

      @@rCrypto_Frog4148 it's the cast time that kills me... I suppose if ice walls are stopping enemies from getting to you then maybe? But still feels like a looong time to me 😅

    • @rCrypto_Frog4148
      @rCrypto_Frog4148 2 дня назад

      @@BluPhoenix yeha but it does mad damage vs bosses!

  • @-felix3161
    @-felix3161 5 дней назад

    Yea they do need to offer some sort of free respec. The build is kind of destroyed. I may not even play my sorc now because that’s what my build was. My warrior however with sunder and upheaval is still demolishing everything way worse then my sorc ever did. 1 button and everything is gone.

    • @BluPhoenix
      @BluPhoenix  5 дней назад

      Enjoy it while it lasts, and hope they don't catch wind of it 😬

  • @P_9_0
    @P_9_0 5 дней назад

    Killing a skill isn’t balancing. They lowered it way too far

  • @taybubble
    @taybubble 5 дней назад +1

    finally got to where i could get comet then its nerfed to ground lol..... poe2 uninstalled

  • @mrjay516
    @mrjay516 5 дней назад +4

    Build destroyed

  • @Antiquated-Ether
    @Antiquated-Ether 5 дней назад +1

    Warranted nerf. Self cast should be much stronger but jts not.

    • @BluPhoenix
      @BluPhoenix  5 дней назад

      Fair point, I tried manually casting it and immediately gave up on that thought, far too long of a cast, just not worth it

  • @RGRockboyGamingVLOG
    @RGRockboyGamingVLOG 5 дней назад +1

    They 1000% need to make the respec cost exaclty 0 gold not 1 - 2 - 300 or 400000. ZERO. You cant get an excuse because the game is early access and stuff are meant to be tested and balance but you cant apply the same for gold respec. This is BS. Make the respec free till the end of the early access. Then when the game is more balanced return the gold respec. I dont know whats up with devs not wanting us to respec. I am boggled with this. NO i am not going to make 20 characters to test things. I will make 1 or 2 then if i cant respec i wont play till the next season or whatever. Why not give me the incetive to play MORE and as i play more i will PAY more in the shop... Really dont get it.

    • @BluPhoenix
      @BluPhoenix  5 дней назад

      I think it should definitely be reduced, if not free. If it were significantly reduced I don't think it would be so bad because you do get a lot more gold the more you level, but to fully respec now costs quite a bit

  • @VVIDbeats
    @VVIDbeats 5 дней назад +5

    overnerfed asffff, it was basically useless against bosses anyway so only good for clearing...

    • @BluPhoenix
      @BluPhoenix  5 дней назад

      With the change I'd say it's actually better for bosses than it was pre-nerf, but significantly worse for clearing

  • @Scholli_1988
    @Scholli_1988 5 дней назад +2

    just 2 words....respec cost

    • @RaydanStudios
      @RaydanStudios 5 дней назад +1

      Yeah, thats our punishment for having fun. Could atleast compensate us hahahaha, its gonna blow. Sorc welfare please.

    • @youngcracker9517
      @youngcracker9517 5 дней назад +1

      @@RaydanStudiosnah bro the Poe glazers will tell you it’s normal to spend 30 hours building a char just for it to brick and re roll

    • @BluPhoenix
      @BluPhoenix  5 дней назад

      rip our gold stash

  • @cirihime9479
    @cirihime9479 5 дней назад

    D4 nerf all over again. Deja Vu. Eveybody gangsters till it nerf

  • @ItZMaxo
    @ItZMaxo 5 дней назад +1

    sorceress is done

  • @RaydanStudios
    @RaydanStudios 5 дней назад +1

    Thats gonna cost me 200k to respec, I dont feel like its fair at that point haha... But It'll take time to rebuild..! Man this sucks..

    • @andr-dh3qf
      @andr-dh3qf 5 дней назад

      im sure they will implement something like lower the cost or even make it free, a lot of people asking for this and they usually listen if its a majority

  • @daspisch
    @daspisch 5 дней назад

    This gem now useless.
    They should nerf phys damage first as well as evasion, you always get hit with your energy shield, and usually it will take from 40 to 80 percent of shield, same time evasionists and armorers just facetank every monster and do massive damage by scaling it feom weapons. Casters - no, you should suffer.

  • @TKnightTea
    @TKnightTea 5 дней назад +2

    It was needed because it was OP, insta killing everything, this is not poe1 where you are supposed to just run with one button.

    • @blablablablibliblibloubloublou
      @blablablablibliblibloubloublou 5 дней назад

      So why did they nerf my build too, I am running a cast on shock to get power charge on my monk. I now get 1 power charge every 5 mobs packs, just wtf. I do my build myself and am no way near OP.
      That nerf doesn't give a shit about people still leveling character that on top of that has nothing to do with CoF comet.
      They just throw every none optimal usage of "Cast on" to the trash to nerf one OP build, this is the worst way to nerf a build.
      They could have link the energy necessary to trigger on "mana cost of spell" instead of "cast speed", this would have nerf CoF with big aoe spell without destroying everybody else with it

  • @Alacod19
    @Alacod19 5 дней назад

    Too much. Cast on freeze was a build enabler, now it's just "extra damage".

  • @DiegoSenge
    @DiegoSenge 5 дней назад

    i dont care about casting a comet onto the boss..... i literally had my single target spells for that.. GGG is so stupid man.

  • @Abololo33
    @Abololo33 5 дней назад +8

    They destroyed my build and I can't respec. Refund time. Back to D4.

  • @алексеймуха-ъ7ж
    @алексеймуха-ъ7ж 5 дней назад

    was 100 energy on freez, now 10, make it at least 25\30 and it will be gold, it was realy good to have insta proc, but now its just suffering (((

  • @JesusHealsAll-k9p
    @JesusHealsAll-k9p 5 дней назад

    Free Respecs or people will stop playing not everyone is a streamer and can play video games all day to change their build every hotfix

    • @BluPhoenix
      @BluPhoenix  5 дней назад +1

      Seems like we gotta pick up a second job as a streamer just to afford these respecs... I need like 36 hour days, 24 just isn't cutting it anymore.

  • @ZyKOBalrog
    @ZyKOBalrog 5 дней назад

    sorcerer need to stop crying us warriors have no dmg still after they fixed your ability

    • @BluPhoenix
      @BluPhoenix  5 дней назад

      That's not what I heard from another warrior in these comments 👀 @-felix3161 said with sunder and upheaval they are demolishing things way worse than sorc 🤷

  • @MrRobot864
    @MrRobot864 5 дней назад +2

    nerf a pve game stupid

  • @BabyfatGaming
    @BabyfatGaming 5 дней назад

    build is dead

  • @p7755fn
    @p7755fn 5 дней назад

    DEVS SUX!!
    PATCH SUX
    SORC IS DEAD
    BAD GAME BAD BALANCE

  • @geert574
    @geert574 5 дней назад

    this game is overhyped pile of puke