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Fun fact: throughout the whole movie, Stilgar is played like a comic relief everytime he says Lisan Al Gaib, but the last time he says it, right before he enters the ship to fight the great houses is no longer funny, we don't laugh cause we know what it implies, he is no longer a believer, he's a fighter who believes, he is willing to give his live for his faith in the battlefield. And we know he'll probably die on it. The book even says it: paul says he won a great fighter but he lost a great friend.
Yeah it’s great cause it can be funny right up until that final one when you realize this is it.
....Stilgar is in children of dune..
@@JohnDoe-kh6mt THANKS A FOOKIG LOT FOR THE FOOKING SPOILER, YOU FOOKING
Kind of? Along the same lines, it's not funny the last time because he's literally off to war on other planets, and we know from Paul's visions that millions upon millions will die because of it. For Stilgar it is a joyous occasion, but for the universe, it is the beginning of a millenia long dark age.
@@JohnDoe-kh6mt yes
OP didn't say stilgar died. They said he's willing to die in the battlefield
The whole reason Paul didn’t want to go south was so he could avoid that ending you watched
Dont make me go south, you dont like me if i go south.
@@user-rv4rs3kr5p 😆
So true and so hard to explain to those that didn't read the books
It was the only way...the unavoidable narrow path.
"To see the future is to be trapped by it"
A universe of possibilities made an inescapable prison.
No surprises or mysteries for him now...just inevitable consequences.
THIS
Surprise! My name is Siona Ibn Fuad al-Seyefa Atreides, nice to meet you.
Rip Leto the 2nd
Exactly right - too many people commenting on Paul's dark path aren't aware of just how trapped he is both by his prescience AND the ancestral memories he has awakened in him through the Water of Life - and it is basically said that the Imperium was in a period of deep instability. And it was an instability so deep that it was possible/even likely the Harkonnens would emerge as the new imperial house. Things were falling apart, and Paul was caught along the paths of several irresistible waves.
@@ohsnap6506 Like Boromir over the falls of Rauros.
Paul made Christopher Walkin into Christopher Kneelin
lolll
Nice
Hey, I hadn't seen that one yet. If you came up with that yourself, good job.
You make my day, sir 😂.
The marriage to the princess is necessary politics, not a deliberate betrayal to Chani.
still hurts tho
And the marriage will never be consummated. Paul just wants to keep the princess under his control.
This comment should have more likes, because the book Chani would understand why he did that and be "okay" with that, not this "angry, I hate you now" bullshit... This is the only thing in this movie I have an issue with. The book Chani is smarter than that and they made her overly emotional and looking stupid for no reason.
Still betrayed her beliefs and his promise.
@@FC-ho9hwbook Chani is one dimensional..anyone with a brain would feel betrayed.
Fun fact: Austin Butler confirmed in an interview that his kiss with Stellan Skarsgård was completely improvised. When I found out about that, I was so shocked! 😳👏
That caught me off guard😂.
I was like...oohhh Harkonnen tradition and culture 🥰
Don't believe that at all
It was like the Roman Empire among the nobility and Senate. Especially under the reign of Heliogabalus.
@@mrsharppepplesi think the first kiss wasn’t improvised but the second one was
14:54 "This guy is just ordering him around." In the book, his inner monologue reveals that he always planned on having Rabban replaced with Feyd-Rautha. He incited him to mindlessly and aggressively kill Fremen on purpose. He WANTED the Fremen to outwit him, so that he would fail, the populace would rally support for replacing him, the baron would "benevolently" fulfill their wishes, and the more skilled Feyd-Rautha would immediately gain political favor by cleaning up his mess.
I forgot that aspect from the books, thanks!
Basically exactly what Irulan said, only the Baron thought of it first.
even better, Rabban is the smartest Harkonen by far but the Baron just doesnt belive him about the Fremen.
@@l.jboylan6704 'smartest by far' since when?
@@l.jboylan6704 - What scale are you using to determine Rabban's intelligence? That's like a 304 rating herself a 10 when she's really a 4 or 5 at best.
When Jessica takes the Water of Life, the Jessica we knew ended. She is now the first most voice in a cacophony of voices within her own head. They essentially placed the memories and personalities of hundreds of other women into her mind.
I feel the same way about Paul after he drank the Water of Life. In the prior Dune adaptations, Paul seemed aloof but he still seemed like Paul.
In this movie, Paul is no longer Paul. Like his mother he is now something else. Paul now has the memories and personalities of hundreds of men and women in his mind.
And he knows how history plays out over and over again - so he unites both a prescience about what is to come with a deep knowledge of what has happened - and is choc-a-bloc full of so many generations of pain, loss, and anger.
scene at the end shows hes still paul,but its nuanced so people can overlook it or just not think about it.i love that movie and i mostly like the changes vs the boocks
Except Paul can access the lives of both his female and male ancestors, something the Bene Gesserit cannot do. They have no access to the male side.
When did the water of life become a thing? Why did the baron die in the lamest way possible. Rabban turned out to be a total wank as well. This movie was wack... I had the zendaya scowl watching this the entire time haha.
The Baron died to the Atredies Jom Gabbar. He was stabbed in the left side of his neck and told "he died like an animal."
Shit was epic as hell wdym. Water of Life was hinted at in first movie too if you were paying attention.
If he marries Chani, he can't marry the Princess, and therefore cannot legitimize his claim on the universe. He loves Chani, he wants to marry Chani, he does not love Irulan, he does not want to marry Irulan. But Paul can now see the "most optimal" path through the future. He *knows* that marrying Irulan saves potentially billions more lives than marrying Chani ever could or would.
Girls: "Why can't I find a good boyfriend"🥺
Also girls: "I kinda like Feyd Rautha"🥵
i feel attacked lol feyd is so hot 😭😭
I mean, he's literally elvis
he looks like a bald baby
@@chance1774 If you couldn't see how many people he just thoughtlessly killed on his own side, you're pretty stupid...or just unconcerned with your own life.
It's just Austin Butler
Little bit of trivia Javier Bardem (Stilgar) and Josh Brolin (Gurney) actually costarred in No Country For Old Men. The academy award winner from years ago. They still got the chemistry even now.
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they killed one another in that movie
that is the chemistry that remains
@@matheussanthiago9685 Dang I love that movie. Watch at least once a year.
Paul's story, is a story of tragedy, disaster and lies. It never had an happy ending. Frank Herbert's core message for Dune was to warn the audience of the perils of following charismatic leaders and religious fanaticism.
Unfortunately he also made Paul too awesome
@@uhuhuh1966 I think most people don't get past reading Dune Messiah because it deconstructs the epic figure Paul becomes in Book One and people don't like when their perceived hero's are proved fallible and lose interest in the journey, which is a shame because Dune Messiah sets up the rest of the series which just gets better and better.
@@kananiokala4423after Paul there IT is his way worse than him his son Leto II a dictator of Universe for next 3500 years... WHO go by golden Path
Be that as it may, he still the elevated the fremen to the top of society, set about the events that would terraform Arrakis and bring about thousands of years of peace, and the longterm improvement of humanity. Creation needs destruction.
@@woo1818exactly, great change comes with great sacrifice. Normally the ends justifies the means saying is a horrible excuse for evil, but if the status quo in question is already hopelessly evil (which is the case for many societies in Dune) than it is absolutely necessary.
The path ahead is not dark...It's Golden...and it's even more terrifying lol
I got this reference lol
@@danilokenobi spoil it for me please
@@bharathmurali9530 All visions that Paul have is about the “golden path”, the path that humanity should take to reach the true freedom and enlightenment. In a few words, that’s it. But this path is dark and sad, because it will lead to a galactic genocide and dictatorship. Paul will refuse been the one who lead the humanity through that… But one of his sons will do it, and when this happens he become the god emperor that will put the universe in a dictatorship for 3500 years. Due this experience (that’s the golden path) humanity will evolved. At the end good wins, but the price to pay is to high. Paul refuse pay this price (a blood price). Paul will win the wars, but he will decline walking the “golden path”
@@danilokenobi thanks dude and will Chani die?
@@bharathmurali9530 yep 👍🏻
He is the chosen one not by chance, He was engineered through genetics. He was a project, the problem is that he couldn't be controled. Only he sees what is to come.
the question is. how was he revived with Chani's tears? as is written?
@@MS-bk7weThe movie answers this earlier when Paul tells the Fremen that Jessica was trained to convert the poison of Water of Life to being non-harmful. Paul was already back- he was controlling his vitals to appear in a near-death state so that Chani would fulfill the Bene Gesserit-made prophecy of bringing Paul “back” to life.
This is "Task failed successfully."
@@sandralentz564 so it being lethal to men was bs?
@@MS-bk7we It is lethal to everyone except those who are capable of poison transmutation, which only the all-female Bene Gessersit were capable of. Paul is the only male Bene Gesserit, the result of a 10,000 year long breeding program designed to maximize the prescient powers granted by the Water of Life.
remember Jessica wasn't married to Leto, this is a world of political marriage. so taking the emperors daughter he secures his claim to the throne it has nothing to do with love
I thought the scene of Lady Margot Fenring seducing Feyd-Rautha with the Voice was so well done. In the book, she only discusses her duty to do it as a Bene Gesserit with her husband Count Hasimir Fenring before and after the deed. Throughout the series of books, Bene Gesserit are touted to be able to seduce any man they choose without fail (proclivity or orientation does not matter) but seeing it depicted so well was impressive.
13:14 "You have strength. You shall be known as Usul, which is the strength of the base of the pillar. This is your secret name in our troop, but you must choose the name of manhood, which we will call you openly."
"And what do you call the mouse shadow on the second moon?"
"We call that one _Muad'Dib."_
"Could I be known as Paul-Muad'Dib?"
"You are Paul-Muad'Dib. And your mother shall be a _sayyadina_ among us. We welcome you."
_A Dream unfolds..._
Between "dont be jealous" and "They are wasting water" this is one of your funniest videos yet😂
5:52 I think the water of live is lethal to non Bene Gesserit trained people but Paul is the only male who is trained in their way, so he is way more likely to survive.
They were many males in history that tried Water. Probably most of them was trained.
Since only females can become Bene Gesserit, only females are trained in "the way". Many Bene Gesserit die when taking the Water of Life, the survivors become the Reverend Mothers. It has to do with genetics (having X/X chromosomes) which is where their abilities comes from. Males have X/Y so what ability is unlocked having a Y chromosome is unknown to the Bene Gesserit which is why their selective breeding program has been at work for thousands of years trying to breed a male that would survive the process. Jessica defied the Bene Gesserit out of her love for the Duke and messed their plan up by bearing a son (one generation too early from when they were expecting). Reverend Mothers look into the past, the Kwizatz Haderach can look into the future.
@@kananiokala4423 In the book it is also explained that the Bene Gesserit can alter parts of her body, that's why they can change faces, change the dna or the genes of the babies, etc... When Jessica takes the water of life it saysthat altered the genes and thhe dna in her body to be able to survive the venom from the water
In books they have shown how they do it. They can alter their biology by will. Bene Gesserit can also make themselves immortal through but it is forbidden. In books, daughter of jessica is saved because Jessica alters poison which enters both their bodies. But effect of drug still works and both became Reverend mother.
@kananiokala4423 And as we see with Paul, the BG weren't just trying to breed a male who has these abilities. They wanted a male who has these abilities who they can also control.
The overhead shot of Paul walking through the crowd is amazing.
There are so many shots wonderful after the WoL where Paul evokes the imagery of Shai-Hulud: The worm breaching behind him when he arrives south, moving through the crowd like a worm through sand, the Fremen raising worm-tooth crysknives in a circle with Paul in its center...
"This whole movie was about manipulation"
Exactly. And the irony is that all the events and all the deaths which follow, in the long term, actually frees humanity from manipulation - from the Bene Gesserit, from messiahs and from the dependance on spice. That's what Paul could see. It is known as "the golden path", the only way to save the species from stagnation - at the cost of billions of deaths
Given how horrible most of the societies in Dune were, most of the billions of deaths from the holy war were probably a mercy anyways.
I didn't read the book but from what u said, Paul sounds like a 'hero'. Making the hard choices to save humanity.
"The only way to save the species"...according to a fictional novel. Talk about "the ends justify the means" on mega-steroids. What's ironic is that by trying to point up how awful charismatic leaders, fascism, and authoritarians are, Frank Herbert, by the time he reached the part of the narrative arc with The Golden Path in it, was managing to promote it. Claiming that the 3,500 year rule of Leto II was "peaceful" is like WW2 German apologists saying that at least the trains ran on time.
@@Banana_John That's not the case because MrKamikaze gave the wrong info. Paul didn't far ahead enough and didn't have the will to make the personal sacrifice required. He's definitely not the hero. The role falls to Leto II. I won't elaborate further because it's major spoilers.
@@Banana_John bet you like avengers infinity war's thanos then
this is not meant to be rude, just realized it can come off that way
Peak Cinema right here
Even better in IMAX.
26:23, the kiss is nothing compared to what the Baron did to Feyd in the books. The director has went out of his way to subtly let us know Baron Harkonnen is one sick puppy.
In the book, it is implied (but strongly implied). I find the book Baron is so much more deviously villainous and subtle. It is slow dripped when reading the story and towards the end you realize he is not just a brutish monster but has a plan (with plans, within plans) and has been manipulating everyone the whole time.
@@kananiokala4423that’s not true cuz it’s only implications
@@user-rr7pe2yf3s yes, implied and implication is the same thing. The implication being he abuses others so why not Feyd too.
@@kananiokala4423 bro what tf was the implication in the books?
@@bendover7841 That the Baron is gay or bisexual. He's at least so corrupted and perverted that incest isn't off the table.
Yeaaah that’s exactly that, all about manipulation and using religious/messianic figures for power, that was a warning from Herbert. Paul isn’t the hero, neither a vilain (more an antihero). the story is like a Greek tragedy
I was so pleased to find that this movie was so respectful of the Dune universe and the changes Villeneuve has done serve even better the message (for example Chani not being blindly following Paul)
Chani in the books does not follow Paul blindly. She is one of his main advisors. She is wise and knows very well that the only way for Paul to get to the throne is to marry a princess. Like Paul, she puts the needs of her people before her own needs. Only Paul puts off the whole humanity before his own needs.Despite the fact that he sees the future (he knows what needs to be done for humanity to survive), he cannot forgive himself for what he is doing to make it happen. In the holy war, billions died in his name... And what was needed after to be done...he couldn't do it, his son did it.
Paul is a victim of the Bene Gesserit genetic breeding program and political manipulation, just like his father. Unlike his father, he survives, uses his special powers to take his revenge, but then realizes there is no future he can see where the galactic jihad does not happen. He still could have refused to have anything to do with it and at least kept his integrity intact, but at the end of the film he basically shrugs his shoulders and doesn't speak out over it.
16:46 "Usul has called a big one! Again, it is the legend!"
Bi-la kaifa.
A small curiosity about the blue ribbon that Chani (Zendaya) wears:
According to Villeneuve, the director, in the adaptation, the blue ribbon symbolizes the intense love that Chani feels for Paul. She is even seen wearing it during the confrontation with the emperor, which means she still believed in him. It is only at the end of the movie, when she separates from Paul, that she stops wearing it.
In the novels, it has a different meaning: the blue ribbon is linked to the marital or post-maternity status of the Fremen women. In the books, three years pass before Paul decides to confront the Harkonnens and the emperor himself. During this time, his sister Alia is born, and Chani becomes pregnant, although she tragically loses the baby due to a Harkonnen attack (a plot omitted in the movie, like many others).
I didn't notice the ribbon when I watched it but I will look for it on my next watch. Do you think it is in reference to the Water Rings that man gives to a woman when they officially become a couple and she inter-weaves them into her scarf so they don't make jingle sounds? In the book, Harah takes the water rings Paul asks her to hold after Jamis funeral and Stilgar tells her she can take them without commitment since Paul did not know Fremen ways yet. I would like to believe the blue ribbon replaces a blue scarf woven through water rings.
Not really sure why they did that because in Dune Messiah, she's very much in Paul's side. So either she comes back to him as he says in the movie (she'll turn around), or Dennis will make the biggest deviation in the entire series.
If Paul had not done what he did, the Fremen would of been crushed by the weight of the Emperor and all the armies of the Great House's. They survived for so long because they were only a nuisance and people didn't realize they lived in such large numbers. Paul's earlier successes leading them made people too aware of them. So it was either total victory or annihilation.
I had the absolute pleasure of watching Dune Part 2 in an IMAX theater. It was unlike any theater experience I've ever had before, and I will never forget it for as long as I live. However, because of that experience, I'm now very upset the home release of the film is widescreen and not fullscreen like it should be. Despite that though, I still can't wait to receive my 4K Blu-Ray copy.
Also, I know you have your reasons for having only one ear piece in, but I beg you to watch the movie again on your own, but with both ears.
100% agree. The opening of the floating up the mountain in IMAX was beautiful, and that was just the first few minutes
so did i. just about worth the ticket price, but thats all. amazing cinematography, albeit rather monochrome, rushing through the plot points
Paul realized that Fyed-Rautha was a better fighter than him so he intentionally got stabbed where he could pull the knife and surprise him. Fyed was knife-fighting while Paul was playing chess.
In the books, Fyed Rautha was another Hwesich Kedderith candidate, and Paul actually couldnt see Fyed's future. So the fight was more intense because he always had doubt whether the reason why was because he was going to kill Fyed or get killed by Fyed, so there was nothing to see past him. Not knowing makes the fight less intense and meaningful then it could have been.
22:09 just reinforces chicks go crazy for total dangerous and lethal psychopaths, literally every reaction from woman I've seen lmao
No it’s the baldness.
It has been deduced that Arrakis is about the size of the Moon, which makes sense that things like Sietch Tabr having such a wide area of control.
Nope. The Dune Encyclopedia lists it as a tiny bit larger than Earth.
Dune part 2 is definitely a masterpiece, the best film of 2024, I hope that in 2025 Dune will receive even more Oscars and I hope that the actors will also receive it, especially Timothee Chalamet, he deserved an Oscar a long time ago, and he deserved it even more for the role of Paul. A talented actor, he played the role at the highest level, very well done I'm really looking forward to Dune part 3😊👻👍👍👍
The Lisam, Al gaib is fake made up by the bene gesert, the Quizat Haderach is real a bene geseret male
Jessica didn't know she was a Harkonnen child because of the secretive breeding program of the Bene Gesserit, they often bear children of the seed of others not knowing where it comes from, carefully monitored by the Reverend mothers candidates are selected in order to produce more powerful Bene Gesserit as well as bringing them closer to the Kwisatz Haderach. Noone except some few and especially not the one bearing the child in question nor the children know whos bloodline it is.
So, Harkonnens and Atreides both having been found to be strong candidates for bringing forth the one were secretly "cross bred" in order to increase the chances of the next generation, that's why the Bene Gesserit are so interested in Feyd Rautha and especially in securing that bloodline. Jessica simply took matters in her own hands, and, well maybe we'll see where that has led.
Paul didn’t choose anything. As Chani said “the world chooses for us”. Paul knew the only way he could ever free the Fremen was to become emperor. The only way he could do that and have legitimacy, is by marrying the princess. The books are way different when it comes the Paul, Chani and the ending.
Yeah, this movie really did Chani dirty. Instead of the powerful Fremen Princess and concubine to Paul, they made her.. .well, what we saw, who cut and ran when she didn't get her perfect fairytale.
@@MagsonDareidk about that, the person she loved manipulating her own people isnt exactly a cause to stay around for lol
@@theorbitalone7283 excatly, giving her more agency and making her smarter is a win in my book. Paul leading a war to kill millions isn't a good thing my guys. People not getting that from the first book is the whole reason why Herbert wrote Messiah.
@@djentleman37 i think people do get that but how can he be your typical dictator when the guy can see the future and the only future that makes the fremen and his goals completed was the genoicdal one there is nothing he could have done that would have resulted in a better outcome there is no reason for people to always go by what the author wants the audience to think also i havent read the books i am just going by the movie
@@djentleman37 Chani did what Padme should have done in Clone Wars
when I watched Chani being a female love interest with agency it felt like as if a millions sane souls sighed in relieve (while a million more nerd souls seethed with misogynistic rage)
This channel is amazing the amount of detail they paid attention to while also completely respecting the film. Top tier reaction.
Emperor:"You're father was a weak man..."
Magy: "no.."
Stilgar and Gurney are absolute couple goals
fr tho
Rabban. The Beast Rabban. A muscle-minded tank-brain, Rabban. But the book by Herbert makes him more intelligent and shrewd than any of the film adaptations give him credit for.
Chani's blue scarf in Dune 2 symbolizes her love for Paul, reflecting their evolving relationship and her true feelings. Blue is worn when "Fremen women fall in love."
Paul kept trying to stay away from the prophecy until the Harkonnens were turning the tide by mass bombing their hideouts. Paul decided to fulfil his destiny and marry the princess because he loves Chani; it was the only way to save her
He marries the princess because he has to become emperor. But in the book hes already married to Chani too. He actually has three wives, because when Paul first killed Jamis to join the Fremen, Jamis' wife became his as well. But its the son of Chani that becomes the next emperor. So the director changing the story and making Chani an antagonist rather than supportive of Paul even in marrying Irulon doesnt make sense. I think the director has it planned that Chani kills Paul in the the next movie, even though that never happens in the books and loved each other deeply to the very end.
@@Slayer8957 in the movie Pail said : She' coming back
*to achieve revenge
at least in the movie, that was like top 1 priority
@@matheussanthiago9685 if he wanted revenge, he would've done what he mother said earlier
@@davadhbut what jessica wants is to exploit the fremen’s religion to get revenge whereas paul wants to organically rally them through loyalty and not fanaticism
dune 2>>>>empire strikes back, but ppl aint ready for that convo
I’m ready!
@@danielplainview2584 W
Dune 2 was also made 40 years later 😂😂😂 I’d argue Star Wars was much more revolutionary for its time than these adaptations. They’re great, but had completely incomparable technology and budgets
@@mcnugget4836 understandable, I’d still take dune anyday over Star Wars
The OG Star Wars was phenomenal in the time period it was released; but the scripts were total garbage for the most part. That was always my biggest complaint, and it’s the same for the prequel films. Anyways, Star Wars wouldn’t even exist without the Dune books so there’s also that. But I completely agree. Dune Pt. 1 & 2 are already my favorite sci-fi films in the 20+ years I’ve been a sci-fi junkie!
The last 30 minutes of this movie are pure cinema perfection!
8:17 He's not the Mahdi, and he's not the Lisan al-Gaib. He's Brian. 😂
He is not the Voice From the Outer World, he's a very naughty boy.
What have the Harkonnens ever done for us?
@@PhilBagels we are not the The fremen People's Front we are clearly the People's Front of Fremen
@@matheussanthiago9685 "I want to be a Bene Gesserit."
"You can't be a Bene Gesserit, Stan. You're a man!"
"I happen to have a fwiend named Biggus Wormus."
Just for your background: Villeneuve changed 2 main plot points compared to the book and did not do a significant time jump at the end which is in the book, too.
However, he kept the unsteady pace of the book and the fast increasing density of the plot towards the end. A truly amazing adaption, but, Villeneuve will face writing issues for part 3.
Also, keep in mind: In the book you learn almost nothing about the conspiracy against the Atreides. As the reader, you follow many internal monologues, but you only witness the intrigue from a certain perspective, deprived of many details. You only see the How and yiu get a superficial Why, blaming the Emperor and the Baron. But many details and certain key players of the conspiracy remain in the dark.
Book 1 Dune and Book 2 Dune Messiah are very different pieces of literature. Dune Messiah is a weird, difficult read because it lacks a real 3-act- or 5-act-structure, and it dumps ***TONS*** of lore, background info, world building and explanations, new players, new centers of power, new conspiracies and even conspiracies within conspiracies on the reader. When i first read it I felt bulldozed by all the retrospect exposition and the unfolding complicated political plot against Paul, the Emperor of the Known Universe.
It will be a mean, unthankful task for Villeneuve to adapt it as a screenplay.
By the way, Paul ***is*** the Kwisatz Haderach. Some people in the comment section are clearly confused or only claim to heave read the book.
After drinking the Water of Life, Paul can access all memories of both the females and the males of the interbred, crossed bloodline while the Bene Gesserit can only access the female branch. So, he is ***the*** mind that can cross space and time.
His foresight is 99.99% perfect. Perfect. Almost ;-)
Unforunately, in Dune Messiah, for Paul the harsh reality sets in step by step that his life's path was set in stone the moment he stepped on Arrakis. He first realized it in Dune after obtaining full precognition.
With 1 exception: In Dune Messiah, there will be 1 true free choice in his life; he can choose between "door no. 1", taking a certain ACTION, and "door no. 2", taking a certain INACTION, but either choice comes with an insane emotional and personal weight to his mind and with mad repercussions for the Known Universe....no spoilers from me here about what and how Paul chooses in Dune Messiah, but when I read it - and of course, major explanations came a book later in Book 3 Children of Dune! - it felt like a hard punch to the stomach.
I was not superhappy with that twist.
Frank Herbert take on Paul was: There is no fate and no prophecy, it's all bullshit, made up, it's all human designs, just like religion, and one should always stay away from seemingly charismatic leaders with good intentions as they can lead into devastating chaos causing the most terrible things. Paul is such a case. He is a villain. Not malicious, yes, tragic, yes, but he is still a villain, not an anti-hero or some nonsense.
His "take them to paradise" is going to unleash one of the worst sequences of mass murder and genocide in mankind's history - just as he had foreseen it and just as he could not stop it.
Towards the end, you can see the emotions warring within Chani. Anger, sorrow, and most of all heartbreak. And yet she does not shed any tears. For she is Fedaykin, and her code of honor will not let her waste her body's water for tears, not even for love lost.
You guys have one of the best responses to this movie I've seen. You get it. It's troubling.
When I saw this in the theaters, there was a girl next to me that was crying at the end of it. I really did feel for Chani and after seeing you guys, I can confirm that she was really saddened about their tragic love story.
The path Paul took was the only way to liberate the Fremen from the opressors. He had no choice
Even with all the times Paul said he could see all the possible futures, people still thought he would lose that fight...
It went exactly as he predicted. He was stabbed because he needed to. Notice how he was smiling during that fight.
No hint of fear. He was fully in control.
Hopefully after Messiah Villeneuve can convey the 'ending' theme of the books. This is only the beginning
I enjoyed part 2 in the theater, but I found my enthusiasm dampened a little since I already knew the story. I look forward to part 3 which will be based on the book Dune Messiah and full of surprises for me. Good reaction, ladies, glad you liked it. 👍
Actually i think it will be before dune messiah, remember messiah is an epilogue to the wars.
Dude picks up a lot of names during this: Paul Atreides, heir to both Houses Atreides and Harkonnen, Maud'Dib Usul, the Lisan Al Ghaib, the Mahdi, the Kwizatz Haderach.
for me that movie was the movie of the decade loved every single scene ^^
42:50 yeah 'just like that'
Gurney Halleck is one of the greatest fighters known to man
He didn't choose the throne, it was the only way to keep those he loved alive.
It was the narrow way through
40:50 I remember when i sae this in IMAX, when that worm appeared, the noise was loud as fuck.
25:47 "Jessica, you were told to bear only daughters to the Atreides. Jessica--!"
"It meant so much to him."
_"You_ thought only of a _Duke's desire for a son?!_ Desires don't come into this. An Atreides daughter could have been wed to a Harkonnen heir and sealed the breach! _We may lose both bloodlines now._
My greatest student. And my greatest... disappointment."
Don't Worry, They will be together in the next part.
Magy, the actress who played Paul’s sister in his vision is *Anya Taylor-Joy* who will be playing a young *Furiosa* in the prequel to Mad Max: Fury Road:
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Paul exactly knew whats gonna happen if he decides to go South.
That's why he never wanted to go South and told everybody that doesn't wanna go, especially Chani.
He knew if he goes to South, their (his & Chani's) relationship will never be the same.
THE PROPHECY! 👆
Laura's right, Part 3 is moving forward. It was a while ago, but I think I made it 4 or 5 books into the series. It gets pretty wild, so I can't wait to see what Villeneuve does with it. What a generational director he's turning out to be. Sicario, Prisoner, Arrival, Blade Runner 2049, Dune. Absolutely incredible.
Not only is this a better adaptation than the book, it’s honestly one of the greatest movies ever made period!
lol not better than the book but i agree its a damn good movie. Saw it on fan early release night and definitely felt it lived up to my very high expectations after part 1. Now i just wish Villeneuve would say hes going to do books 3-4 too. I would love to see all the reactors freaking out over the concept of the god emperor.
How can you compare a movie to a book? 😂
@@JohnDoe-kh6mt we can all agree Chani was such a better character in this movie than in the book.
Its much worse than the book, still awesome and amazing movie..
@@thedarkknight2221 I have to disagree... Chani was MUCH better in the books. In this movie they made her out to be a petulant child who got angry because she didn't get her way!
Having said that... it is a very well made movie overall!
I love your reaction here!! You were so hyped, I felt that
22:50 The drug of which the Harkonnens speak is called elacca, from the off-world tree of the same name. Symptoms of elacca intoxication include a carrot colour to the skin, berserker rage, stumbling...they put up a decent fight but are easy to kill.
I love that you're watching the desert mouse Muad'dib with everyone's favourite electric mouse Pikachu 😂❤
A mouse that formerly was known as the Jerboa on planet earth until it migrated to Arrakis with the help of Boo the Miniature Giant Space Hamster a millennia ago.
61 billion people disliked Paul's social media account after this...
Best Picture of 2024
Thank you for doing this reaction, I loved your thoughts and squeals. I love this version of the story but I do wish they had been able to add in things like Paul & Chani’s children.
The first 3 books are very much worth the read.
I used to not like Austin Butler at all as an actor, but after Dune part 2 I really liked the actor in this film and he was amazing in his roles, I wish he had more roles like this, his charisma is amazing in the role of villains and the duet between Timothy and Austin was wonderful, two talented actors from they played the roles awesome I hope they get their Oscars
If not for Paul Atreides, the Freman would have been eventually wiped out, and compared to many people living under the harsh and terrible societies of the empire they are the lucky ones. Paul chose the path leading to death destruction and rebirth, because it was truly better than any of the other options.
3:19 "wittle baby" LOL
"I feel like he took the dark path"
There was no other path, this was the only way to survive.
Lady Jessica and Paul literally drank the Kool-aid...😅😬😱
they were chronically online in 2017 and end up eating the tide pods
Remember Paul’s own mother was a concubine and not a wife to his father Duke Leto. Him marrying the princess while being with Chani is unusual.
This is one of the movies I've been waiting so long to see. I loved it without a doubt. When I found out that Josh Brolin would be in the movie I didn't think twice about seeing it. Nice reaction, sweet ladies!
Have you seen it in IMAX? Because it's made for IMAX theaters.
22:10 a million couches were stained from this lmao
21:00: Feyd-Rautha was played by *Austin Butler*
You should watch his award-winning performance in *Elvis*
These two are great. They're on a planet with skyscraper sized worms and drugs in the sand, but Feyd kissing Vlad is where it's getting weird lol.
Cheers all!
Beeen lookin forward to this 💯🍿
I hope you guys could find the biggest screen to watch this on ..
because seeing this in theaters was unforgettable 😶!
Stay Awesome⭐️
Guys which platform do you watch the movie ?
Saw this in IMAX it was incredible. Can't wait for part Dune Messiah!
With this being a cautionary tale against following charismatic leaders, Paul making obedient fools of an entire planet, if you admire him, you’re one of those fools.
I mean dude is prescient and got complete access to future possibilities. It's probably better to follow rather than fight him.
I guess u could sit on the side if u want.
in the books, princess areline documents everything about the houses and Paul. She narrates between chapters
Work the contours and apply the edge of the blade, this film is the best sci-fi film yet made, congrats Denis, and thank you. No doubt you missed some Moebius art back in the day with those hooded Fremen.
In the book, Chani doesn't make a fuss, but offers to step aside, but Jessica (who was also not a wife, but a concubine - politics), explains to her that a wife is only politics (and there will be no children as a result of it), but a real the prince's partner (and mother of his successors) is a concubine.
Paul is a tragic hero, like from the ancient Greek tragedy - Orestes - about the curse of the Atreides family... Yes, the Atreides
In the books, the family legend traces the origin of the family to Agamemnon Atreides (yes, the one from Illada and the Siege of Troy), although the father of the founder of the family in the books is Agamemnon, who belongs to the Titans (a group that in Brian Herbert's books enslaved humanity, whose last remnants resisted led by Harkonen).
Always a joy to see Magy reacting to her favourite character coming up on screen 😂
7:30 it's interesting to see the difference between the old and young Fremen - how much influence the Bene Gesserit propaganda and myths have on the old generation while the young see all of that for exactly what it is - deceit.
11:47 excellent first date idea: blowing up your father's killers in the desert with your girl!
12:38 - you said it best, Magy - they're so desperate to believe that every little thing can be interpreted as proof to sustain their creed.
Paul riding the worm for the first time - that scene is gonna give us chills every single time. The little reveal after that he rode one of the biggest worms ever was just icing on top of the cake.
Feyd-Rautha is one cocky little shit but he did put on a grand spectacle in the arena, you gotta give him that.
Princess Irulan tried to warn her father and maybe it would've been better but he didn't really want to listen.
29:25 - so that's how the "Water of Life" is created, neat little reveal there.
34:55 he really was "born again" and Chani prompty slapped his silly ass for it 😂
35:42 looks like our bitter enemies are related after all! Quite the juicy revelation.
37:25 what a powerful scene - he took the lead and nobody dared oppose him.
38:50 Chani just realized what a terrifying being Paul became - they created a monster.
40:54 "It was at this moment they knew...they fucked up"
Gourney taking out Beast Rabban was so satisfying to watch.
43:55 Paul was right when he told Chani that if he goes south, he will lose her forever.
48:15 that last look on Chani's face - "Hell hath no fury like a woman scorned"
Thank you for this phenomenal reaction and the emotional discussion afterwards, you've truly outdone yourself with this one ❤
Paul isn’t a monster he was pretty much forced into being the voice from the outer world by everything around him and just because the prophecy was made up for the fremen it doesn’t mean Paul isn’t the chosen one he can see the future and lead the fremen into paradise the whole point tho is that prophets are usually great people that are zealously and mindlessly followed and how dangerous it is to do that
@@daquaviousbingleton9763 forced or not, it doesn’t change what he turned into. You always have a choice and the movie, as well as the books, are a warning against mindlessly following religion, charismatic figures and fairy tales in general.
@@Alexszander Paul can see the future if the only way for him to be successful is destruction is he monster? His means have an end, until he decided he no longer wanted to be the messiah which at that point it was far too late a monster is someone who brings unnecessary destruction for his own benefit yes or no he does it for Arrakis to be free
@@daquaviousbingleton9763 doesn’t make him any less of a monster, successful or not.
Good reaction. BTW, you should also react to the Dune miniseries that came out in the year 2000, which you can find it easily and freely on RUclips, that one is the most faithful adaptation of the book, so it would be interesting to compare it with the movies. And if you want to know what happened to the characters after the first story, you can react to the sequel "Children of Dune (2003)".
Many discuss how Paul felt what happened was inevitable: he's wrong.
He saw the man watering the palm trees and heard the words 'ancient dream' he ignored that whole thing, along with the Kynes# family and Chani's future.
He saw the moons of Arrakis, the hand of god, and the desert mouse, right there in front of him; he named himself after the desert mouse, but chose the path of the hand of god.
He wasted time at Kyne's research station. Leaving immediately would probably have left Duncan and Kynes alive, they had the vehicles to leave on, and delayed to hear Paul whine.
These are just the most obvious. - and all dictators, religious or not, later describe everything they did as inevitable. Wrong. Lack of attention to the paths laid in front of them.
The deeper we go, the more exciting this adventure can be. 😺😸🙈🙉🙊💖
Hairy rats was hilarious, well played.
where can i watch it online? I'm traveling, so it is impossible to go to the teather
It is available on digital
What version of the movie is this?
Dune, I think this film perfectly shows what humans are, especially in their most vile aspects. Thirst for power, lack of empathy, desire to impose one's will, ability to deal the lowest blows to ensure one's survival, belief in fairy tales when they suffer, etc. The Fremen suffer and look for a way out of their miserable situation. So they were manipulated by the power-hungry women who are unscrupulous and ready to do anything to achieve their goals. Others want to retain their powers at all costs and others want to have supreme power. In these power games some are lost like Paul's naive girlfriend. She dreams of a world that does not exist and cannot exist! Paul himself is only the result of this incessant war between the powerful clans of the empire and the burning desire of the Fremen to free themselves from their oppressors. I also see him as a victim and a traumatized being. The life of Paul Atréide is a tragedy. Well, it would have been easy if he didn't have certain abilities and if he hadn't done certain things that reinforced the Fremen fundamentalists in their blind faith. In short, he is trapped!
As I say, it’s the history of the world! Power struggles produce traumatized and embittered people who will not hesitate to do harm when the opportunity presents itself. Can this end? Unless there is supernatural intervention, I don't think so. I think that if humans could be peaceful beings on their own, we would know that. Maybe after this life we will have peace, but even then it still seems like a fairy tale!
Every time i hear ''The Holy War begins'' i get chills
You gotta check out some Christopher Walken movies. He plays the Emperor. I think the only movies I know you've seen him in is Pulp Fiction (he played the soldier who showed up to give child Bruce Willis the watch) and Click (renamed What Kind Of Comedy Is That?!? He played Morty, the angel of death). The Prophecy is a good one. I'm sure people will recommend The Deer Hunter and The Dead Zone. He's in True Romance, which you'll love. Suicide Kings is one of my favorites. Honestly, it's a long list. He's a legend.
38:35 This scene whole monologue, since he entered that building until he last speak Fremen will earn Timotheé his second Oscar nomination. Sadly, any other year he probably could’ve won it but this year Joaquin Phoenix will win it for Joker, but Timotheé is young and super talented, he will win one in the future. His delivery in this scene gave me goosebumps like three times when I watched this on IMAX, one of my favorite scenes of all time. It has so many amazing dialogues and the acting is amazing.
I remember my Step-Brother loving these books years ago..... I never really got into them. I remember seeing the original movies of Dune and although this is pretty good... it is a carbon copy of the original to me. Sure the CGI lends alot to these movies, but truly, it is just like the original, just with more recent young actors. I do feel this is a book series that would be very hard to do justice in the movies.....just like the Wheel of Time book series which is so so much better than what they are attempting to put into film.
It's been decades since I've read the Dune books and decades since I've seen the movie Lawrence of Arabia, but I feel they are similar somehow.
Stilgar: How do i convert this to a PDF?
Paul: *does with ease*
Stilgar: LISAN AL GAIB!
😂
Magy, can i suggest a movie series?
I know I'll be in the minority, but I am curious of your's and Laura's reaction of the Fast and Furious franchise.
it's got love and hate feedback from the community, but i think you might enjoy the entertainment it brings :)