Since rankings began in 2013 (so not including retro ranks) the lowest ranked players to win majors (going by the liquipedia list of majors) were (if I got my timing right) : Zain (9th at the time of winning shine) Axe (10th at the time of winning summit) And now Mang0 (11th at the time of winning smash con) Mang0 might be the lowest ranked player to win a major since rankings began!
So he’s the youngest player to win a major, the oldest player to win a major, lowest rank to win a major, and I assume tied for highest rank to win a Major. Damn
Mang0 was just like oh you 4 stocked me? No worries I will just go Falco and discombobulate you homie. Crazy this worked totally Big Banana Brained him.
Happy for you bro!! My first major was genesis 7 and the feeling of being in the croud rather then watching online is something you cant even begin to grasp. Glad you had a good time bro!! :D
@@MatthewJones-pz9nx SAME, My first super was G7!! But tbh, sometimes I get like too excited and too overwhelmed by how big the event is. And I like stop processing it. So sometimes I find myself getting more hype at the simplicity of watching from home. That being said everyone should go to a major, I’m saying I got too hyped for my own good, so That’s A Good Thing 😅
Mango carries Melee on his back and he knows it. He says 35, but I just can't imagine the kid sitting back and watching Hungrybox dethrone him as the greatest of all time. Mango's gonna play as long as Hungrybox, that much we know.
Unfortunately it might be wishful thinking. Mang0 has already said he only has a few more years tops. Hbox has said he'll likely be playing melee alongside whatever is the newest smash game for the rest of his life.
Can we talk about the fact that mango diddn't get any confetti for winning the tournament, but a sora in ultimate grands got confetti for taking 1 game? Smash con doing mango dirty lmaoo
The rankings will always mean nothing beyond being a general average of performance over a period of time. I argued with people that Mang0 was still in the game and it felt really nice seeing Mang0 give them a middle finger after winning.
@@jooper2861 this is opposed to rankings trying to describe the potential of a player. It should let you assume that player 10 is better then player 11. If thats not the case the ranking system fails. The original commenter is suggesting that no ranking system will be like this because, it allows for the possibility to sleep on the kid
No, I don’t think these [or most accurate] rankings put into account potential unless two players are really neck and neck . I think their description of how rankings are just based on average performance over a given period fits the bill. That’s why we do rankings periodically and mang0’s placing in tournaments recently earned him 11th. Like most people can eyeball and say that, yeah mang is probably top 10 skill-wise, but doing your rankings non-empirically takes away some credibility from your power ranking.
Damn, I used to watch these tournaments when I was a teenager but after ultimate released and COVID hit, I lost contact with the entire smash scene. Glad to know it’s gaining some vitality back with crowds back and vintage Mango rallying them up Legends never die, I suppose
Also don't care what anyone says mango has the best fox in the game. He's not as consistent as other fox but his top play is better than others top play
I mean ibdw's fox has beaten zain a lot more consistently than Mang0's has as of recent. And beating zain is "top play". As of now Cody's top seems to be able to beat Zain, Mang0's has been struggling for awhile
I really love the difference between game 1,2,and 3 against hbox in the first set. Yoou can see Mang0 actually start to slow his play down after the first game, and being super hyped. Forcing the games to be more his pace till he closes the set out.
Just from his gameplay, this is one of Hbox's best performances. Incredibly deserved by Mang0. Also shoutouts to Llod, he's always been my favorite American Peach. even though he was getting rekt at Xanadu for years.
This is a huge win for Mang0 and it was an epic grand finals from him and hbox and the gameplay was there and I'm thoroughly impressed, but - I want to see Mang0 win at a tournment with more top ten players.
This total random, Manglo, just comes out of nowhere and wins a major after being ranked out of top ten? Hope this gets to be his first time as a top ten player or maybe even the Goat: imagine that?
On top of rating mang0 lower than his rank should be, they also ranked Axe at 29th. So more sets like that are likely at (super)majors, which is crazy to think about.
Ranked 11 on the MPGR and immediately wins a major from winners’ side not even two weeks later. That’s the Mang0.
4 days after it came out. Mango wanted to silence the haters
Man-goat
He's literally the protagonist of the melee anime
To be fair, it's a really dumb rating to drop someone so quickly in so few matches. "You're only as good as your last performance" I guess
@@dodde216
Not that easy to pull off
Only mang0 can be both the goat and underdog story at the same time lmaoo
TRUE lmaoo
The OverCat
that's why he's the goat
Since rankings began in 2013 (so not including retro ranks) the lowest ranked players to win majors (going by the liquipedia list of majors) were (if I got my timing right) :
Zain (9th at the time of winning shine)
Axe (10th at the time of winning summit)
And now Mang0 (11th at the time of winning smash con)
Mang0 might be the lowest ranked player to win a major since rankings began!
he can't stop setting records
Only mang0 can be both the goat and somehow an underdog story at the same time 😂😂
also maybe the 1st player outside of the top 10 to win a major😳
So he’s the youngest player to win a major, the oldest player to win a major, lowest rank to win a major, and I assume tied for highest rank to win a Major. Damn
tbf half-year/summer rankings aren't as serious as end of year rankings. still, the timing is unbelievable lol
That Axe set was absolutely wild. The 4 stock into Falco pivot was insane. That's my GOAT
Mang0 was just like oh you 4 stocked me? No worries I will just go Falco and discombobulate you homie. Crazy this worked totally Big Banana Brained him.
@@animellowssbm discombobulate
was amazing to be in the crowd for this. was my first major and got to watch a mango win!? so cool
IZN!! DAS MY DAWG
Happy for you bro!! My first major was genesis 7 and the feeling of being in the croud rather then watching online is something you cant even begin to grasp. Glad you had a good time bro!! :D
@@MatthewJones-pz9nx SAME, My first super was G7!!
But tbh, sometimes I get like too excited and too overwhelmed by how big the event is. And I like stop processing it. So sometimes I find myself getting more hype at the simplicity of watching from home.
That being said everyone should go to a major, I’m saying I got too hyped for my own good, so That’s A Good Thing 😅
It was my first major too! I was screaming at the top of my lungs
@@FirePuff12 😭😭🥰
I can’t believe Mango didn’t get his confetti.
Somehow also the mang0 special
They gave it to a Sora player for beating Steve from minecraft.
Leffen didn’t either HAHAHA
THATS WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT, THATS WHY HE'S THE MVP. THAT'S WHY HE'S THE GOAT!! THE GOOOOAT!!!
When he won this meme was the only thing I could think about😂😂😂
plot twist: dude in the meme was actually talking bout mango 👀
Mango carries Melee on his back and he knows it. He says 35, but I just can't imagine the kid sitting back and watching Hungrybox dethrone him as the greatest of all time. Mango's gonna play as long as Hungrybox, that much we know.
Unfortunately it might be wishful thinking. Mang0 has already said he only has a few more years tops. Hbox has said he'll likely be playing melee alongside whatever is the newest smash game for the rest of his life.
Can we talk about the fact that mango diddn't get any confetti for winning the tournament, but a sora in ultimate grands got confetti for taking 1 game? Smash con doing mango dirty lmaoo
I mean Gimr killed PM, probably hates melee too lmao
it was probably an accident, they had two confetti setups one was probably for melee, but they forgot
Blew their load too early and probably didn’t have another lol
@@ChinaChamp Happens to the best of us 😞
@@AlphaHatsuseno for sure it was an accidental lol, I just find it funny
A MANGO VS HBOX GRANDS WAS ALL I COULD'VE ASKED FOR THIS YEAR IN MELEE AHHHHH!!!!
4:25 Axe 4 stocked Mang0 in 69 seconds.
Mango proving once again he’s the best Melee player to ever pick up a controller
What about all the melee players that don't pick up controllers?
@@benjaminwilkin2960 Oh you must be referring to B0XX users…yea Mango is better those Melee players too ;)
the kid 😮
I hate that mang and axe always run into each other in bracket, but they have such great sets
Yeah, poor pika has to win three times the exchanges against THE ultra instinct Fox.
The rankings will always mean nothing beyond being a general average of performance over a period of time.
I argued with people that Mang0 was still in the game and it felt really nice seeing Mang0 give them a middle finger after winning.
Damn, you really described the purpose of rankings
@@jooper2861 damn you really described the purpose of his comment.
@@jooper2861 this is opposed to rankings trying to describe the potential of a player. It should let you assume that player 10 is better then player 11. If thats not the case the ranking system fails. The original commenter is suggesting that no ranking system will be like this because, it allows for the possibility to sleep on the kid
No, I don’t think these [or most accurate] rankings put into account potential unless two players are really neck and neck . I think their description of how rankings are just based on average performance over a given period fits the bill. That’s why we do rankings periodically and mang0’s placing in tournaments recently earned him 11th. Like most people can eyeball and say that, yeah mang is probably top 10 skill-wise, but doing your rankings non-empirically takes away some credibility from your power ranking.
@@Luper1billion Rankings 100% do not describe the potential of a player. That is against the entire idea of rankings as a whole
Damn, I used to watch these tournaments when I was a teenager but after ultimate released and COVID hit, I lost contact with the entire smash scene. Glad to know it’s gaining some vitality back with crowds back and vintage Mango rallying them up
Legends never die, I suppose
That 11 was just a typo. They were so excited to rank the goat at #1 that they hit the key twice by accident
Press 1 if you always believed
Real ones stuck around, WE KNOW WHATSUP
1X4EVAh
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Mang0 switching to fox is like Kenpachi using two hands.
Won so hard he needed two #1's for the ranking
Genuinely happy about your win. You are the Melee my dude.
Also don't care what anyone says mango has the best fox in the game. He's not as consistent as other fox but his top play is better than others top play
For sure man
I mean ibdw's fox has beaten zain a lot more consistently than Mang0's has as of recent. And beating zain is "top play". As of now Cody's top seems to be able to beat Zain, Mang0's has been struggling for awhile
Mango putting his opponents taking stocks off him in the video is such a fucking cool move
Walt for sure the only commentator to ever say dinkiest lmfaoo
1:28 I fucking love that laser
As they always say, "Thou shall not sleep on the kid!"
rank 1 mario kart streamer enters melee tournament drunk, gambles child's college fund away then gets banned from twitch in celebration stream
Bro that fucking grands game 4 clutch was INSANE
I could literally FEEL the up smash at 0:38 jfc
I really love the difference between game 1,2,and 3 against hbox in the first set. Yoou can see Mang0 actually start to slow his play down after the first game, and being super hyped. Forcing the games to be more his pace till he closes the set out.
Yeah hbox got spaghetti towards the end but they both played great. Always hype to watch the old rivalry again
yeah he even says it all the time on streams like "i need to stop approaching"
Saw this live in the crowd. That Mango energy was insane ngl.
Just from his gameplay, this is one of Hbox's best performances. Incredibly deserved by Mang0. Also shoutouts to Llod, he's always been my favorite American Peach. even though he was getting rekt at Xanadu for years.
Props to mango for the incredible win and vid and major props to mango for including that FoD game during his Axe set haha
Mang0s the goat, don't get it twisted, rank him 11th, it just makes him 1'st twice
This brought tears to my eyes. Gotta love seeing the kid play like an absolute mad man.
I have honestly no idea what the commentators are talking about half of the time, but this is so fucking exciting to watch :D
I love that its 2022 and its still Mang0 and Hbox in grands. So sick ngl. This whole tournament makes me a happy melee fan.
39:50 Even the stream knew it wasn't Hbox's day to win with that "No Signal" at the end.
It’s 20 fucking 22 we’re still getting mango vs Hbox grand finals best two to ever do it.
Thou shall not sleep on the kid
Yo can we say mad props to the casters!!!
Seeing caster that actually comment the game instead of screaming like little girls was really refreshing
Solid balance of commenting on the game and hyping, for sure
This is a huge win for Mang0 and it was an epic grand finals from him and hbox and the gameplay was there and I'm thoroughly impressed, but - I want to see Mang0 win at a tournment with more top ten players.
Man, when you see Mango just standing still for a couple of seconds you know he's got your number
mang0 is the spirit of all of us, especially if we had a few drinks. Mang0 a huge part of melee getting larger exposure. GOAT
I think it says how good these sets are when I still flinch even tho I know the outcome
this
This total random, Manglo, just comes out of nowhere and wins a major after being ranked out of top ten? Hope this gets to be his first time as a top ten player or maybe even the Goat: imagine that?
He said it himself many times that he'd start respecting hbox more. You can totally see a difference in gameplay compared to older sets
Mang0 hbox games make me clench so hard
Mango pop offs are so hyyyyyype!
What an unbelievable run by the 11th best player in the world.
Clutch af!!! So awesome to see Mango win EVERY SINGLE GAME!! SHEESHHHH!!! 👀
Fuckin' Mango, dude. Unbelievable.
You're insane Mang0
Axe mango set was hype!
I love Mango's Falco, but his Fox just wins most tournaments...
So that's what a sober Mang0 can do ...
Never sleep on the kid
Nice job dude really good run
2:39. I see you editor, u somehow made the pokemon song sync despite the jump forward
Love the Axe respect!
Mango Nation.
Fox McCloud.
Wow that fair reversing in game 5 hbox changed the course of history 19:25
How is mango rank 11 anyway last time i was here the only guy that was in the convo with him was zain
Essy fox got fucking bent frfr big money moves 😂😂
The most mango game of peach fox on yoshis in a minute
That’s one for the books.
The Walt commentary hits so hard at the end
Nah man, you where just ranked #1 twice
I knew he won when I watched this and I was still sweating LOL
so glad to see unfrozen stadium again personally
I love the spite title lmao
I love how hbox's camera briefly dies right at the end of game 5 lmao
Clutch god vs the kid , the goat …. This was a great set and tourney best of luck to close the year boys
The dreamland clapping though......................
Walt's commentary is hype AF
Mang0 makes that European Fox not look lame. Well deserved dub for Mang0 and the Nation.
At around 1 minute the commentary says “mangos in in to win it” accidentally LEAKING the script
Big Banana Brained him with the Falco switch up.
This title is hilarious Mang0
Thou shall not sleep on the kid.
MANGO = GOAT
THE GOAT. THE KID. THE MANG!!!!!!!!!!
ALWAYS #1 IN OUR HEARTS.
amazing! so many upsets!
I hate seeing axe lose, but i love seeing mango win
Goat
Walt’s commentary is insane
I havent been watching for the past 3/4 years, how is the life of the game? Still as big as it was 16-18?
professional multiversus/pokemon unite/variety streamer wins a smash major!
"rank 11" xD i can't take those ranking seriously now
THE GOOOAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAT
Dont sleep on the kid
THOU SHALL NOT SLEEP ON THE KID
Hell yea Mango! 🔥🔥🔥
they ain't never seen the old dog with new tricks
That's my GOAT
People on Reddit were PRESSED!!!!!!
Can't wait for the reddit crowd to start calling Mang washed in a week.
The return of the Kid
what is this seeding? mango - axe top 32?
On top of rating mang0 lower than his rank should be, they also ranked Axe at 29th. So more sets like that are likely at (super)majors, which is crazy to think about.
thou shall not sleep on the kid
Thou shall not sleep on the kid!
Lets go Axe
That's my 🐐