One of the most beautiful performances of Dvojek's 9th symphony. Excellent photography - including a close-up of the orchestra players, the conductor and the audience. Not to mention the great sound. just wonderful !!
This is unique! An American Orchestra in Pyongyang, North Corea 2008. Never before, and perhaps never after will this take place again. It is said that music has the ability to unite people from different parts of this world. I still hope it is true.
@@staffanolofsson8201 'New world' is America as opposed to 'Old world', being Europe. Dvořák wrote it when serving as a director of the National conservatory of music in New York in the 1890s.
I know that music is often described as the most direct form of communication we have (in that it penetrates deeply within us). Still, how would we respond to North Korean theatre and their traditional music? This Dvorak symphony may have sounded to them as if it disregarded basic musical grammar or textures. It may sound too structured, or not structured enough. Bland, or too sharp in places? I have no idea. All I know is that it is often very difficult to absorb music (or any kind of performance) from another society on only a single hearing. And there are differences in how an audience demonstrates enjoyment. Japanese audiences can be very quiet during a cinema screening, because that is how they show respect and engagement.
@@CaminoAir You are right. We dont know how people around this world react to music. And knowing it is hard to understand music you never heard, I believe this audience doesnt have a clue what it is about. But as good communistic citizens they applaud.
Maazel was a legend and truly understood the power of brass. It shines beautifully here with this symphony. And what a bizarre scenario playing music in a walled off society. I bet the orchestra and the audience won't forget this concert. Fascinating to watch the audience as well. I wonder what is going through their heads having just a small peek at the outside world.
Yes, an adequate question. What is going on in the publics heads listening to this? I believe they think this is heroic music from the other side, we have our own heroic music. And our heroic music is better than this "Dvorak". But I still hope that this music and this occasion will stay in their memory.
@AndreyRubtsovRU : According to WHO exactly please 🤔? The video was shared without any caveat and you dared go off on such a rant? It is indeed a world of intrigues and wonders... hmmmmmmmmmmm....
I rented this DVD about a decade ago and was shocked by how beautiful and profound this performance was. The English Horn, in particular, is the best I've ever heard. Haunting. I am so glad to have found it again.
One of the best orchestras in the world is playing my favorite symphony in one of the most interesting countries in the world? Oh! My! God! This type of cultural exchange is amazing!
Wonderful. Marvellous! A lovely concert hall too; wonder what it is used for nowadays? For me, the greatest performance I’ve ever heard. What a shame that NK has isolated itself. South Korea is alive with music, while North Korea hates. Loved Lorin Maazel; great musician and conductor.
For those who are not familiar with the actual on-site audio recording of this historic N.Y. Phil concert in North Korea in 2008 (it was broadcast live back in the States at the time), may I be so bold (and honest) as to point out that this is an edited and "fixed" copy of the concert, not the one the audience actually heard. During the actual concert, for a glaring example, the solo horn failed to reach the high note near the end of the 4th movement (at about 39:07-ish). Of course, probably not many in the audience noticed the failed but critical note. But I am sure those familiar with this beloved symphony, including the musicians and Maazel himself, must have all noticed the shocking failure. It's one of those stunning "oh, no" moments. This is not the first time I heard the N.Y. Phil horn section (principal?) failing to deliver. It also shows the risks musicians have to take when giving a live concert. That said, I remembered that I enjoyed the (original) concert for its historical significance. I am still grateful for this video upload, but I am disappointed and felt cheated that the audio portion has been edited ("voiced over") to hide the blemishes. The audio you heard here is a fake.
@@loekmulder6300 Very simple. Get a copy (if available to you) of the original broadcast video or audio (I also listened to an FM audio broadcast at the time: exactly the same false note from the horn player). Another way, if feasible, is to ask the NY Phil players (any one of them who took part in the historic concert). After that (i.e., that no such recording ever existed and all NY Phil musicians (including the horn player himself, if he is still with the NY Phil) denied of such failure, then, just consider what I said another of those "disinformation" campaigns, perhaps to soil the NY Phil's reputation (BTW, I am a great NY Phil fan) and you would be happy to continue to believe that this upload "is" the authentic version the audience at the historic concert actually heard.
yeah. this is such a high note. nothing shocking here. it's shocking that we still put some value on that. would a symphony be a lesser one if the note were one octave lower? no. so why? why to we treat music as an olympic sport? childish and stupid.
@@AndreyRubtsovRU When Dvořák penned that high note for the solo horn as he composed the symphony in New York City between January 10 and May 24, 1893, he did not mark his score there saying this high note is challenging to play and may be lowered one octave if you find it too difficult. No, he put it right there for the horn player, and we should honor Dvořák’s artistic vision there as well and try our best to do his music justice. Indeed, if you lower the note by one octave, you are violating Dvořák’s artistic integrity, diminishing its value and, yes, making it a “lesser one” as you so accurately put it. So far as I am aware of, no interpreters (musicians and conductors etc.) ever since the symphony’s premiere at Carnegie Hall on December 16, 1893, have ever considered performing this symphony an “Olympic” sport. At least the producers of this composite video/audio realized the importance of this high note, took it more seriously than your flippant view of it, and tried to “cover up” the disappointing “flaw” (however insignificant you consider it to be). By the way, I have personally heard at least two live performances of this symphony by two youth orchestras where the horn players failed to deliver in quite a few passages but, to my amazement, delivered this crucial high note. So, it can be done. I’m sure the N.Y. Phil horn player must have successfully played the note during rehearsals and other live performances. He just had an unlucky day at this historical concert in North Korea.
If the objective was to show the superior creativity of artists living in a free western society, one could have done better than to have this tour led be the most unspontaneous, obsessive control freak martinet among all conductors alive at the time. That said, the musicians of the NY did a really fine job.
I agree with your assesment of a conductor. Commenters here though claimed that horn missed the high note in a solo which has been edited later, so you cant probably call this a "a really fine job"
Heard a live opening NYPO season concert in Maazel's time, ending with this piece. He mucked it about with his own personal quirks, so that we felt it was more Maazel's than Dvořâk's 9th.
@@makyhsmakyhs6766 I am well aware this took place in Pyongyang, but the question wasn't where, but when. If I could remember the exact date I'd give that in addition to the month and year.
I've always thought that both phrases of the opening give a beauitful depiction of a rainstick. A steady melodic decline accompanied by comparatively wave-like bursts, still slow and elegant though.
It's kind of sad because we can see the majority didn't enjoy the performance they wanted to sleep. I don't know the duration of the concert but I can bet it was more than 2 hours.
@@tcguerrero5476 because japan usually contract with the big Phil. orchestras because they taste and like the classic music, but north Korea is not as I think , but in South Korea they are fond of the classic music over the year as the Japanese do !
The audiences faces are gloomy relapsed and desperate , I think they came by obligatory orders and fear just to fill the hall, and they don't understand or enjoy the music it is clear that both of the orchestra and the conductor are not pleased and convinced , the performance is pale and dry !
It's likely they're selected high ranking citizens of Pyongyang that were allowed to attend. For them it's just as special as for the people in the orchestra. This is not a normal audience. It's an audience that came to not just listen to music but represent their country in an act of diplomacy. Forget the scary fairy tales some people here tell. There's always more reasonable explanations.
to listen to music should not be class related - It should be for all people - for a low wage audience - it should be free - the sponsors should pay the bill, people should not be turned away from music and other Entertaiment - also it should be for all ages - - should some music and other forms be classified as unsuitable for certain people unless they are warned prior - for instance - Stravinski's Rite of Spring caused an uproar, I myself have composed music which is only suited for a particular audience. @@angryyordle4640
This was performed in North Korea by the New York Philharmonic. It’s a historic event indeed !
As I said! It will never come back.
What a performance as always. I can't comprehend how they couldn't smile listening to this live.. Markey and Alessi ❤🫡
Heheheha
@@staffanolofsson8201AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAÁ
One of the most beautiful performances of Dvojek's 9th symphony.
Excellent photography - including a close-up of the orchestra players, the conductor and the audience.
Not to mention the great sound.
just wonderful !!
This is unique! An American Orchestra in Pyongyang, North Corea 2008. Never before, and perhaps never after will this take place again. It is said that music has the ability to unite people from different parts of this world. I still hope it is true.
They are playing "From the New World", a world that we are still waiting for.
@@staffanolofsson8201 the world that will never come !
@@staffanolofsson8201 'New world' is America as opposed to 'Old world', being Europe. Dvořák wrote it when serving as a director of the National conservatory of music in New York in the 1890s.
I know that music is often described as the most direct form of communication we have (in that it penetrates deeply within us). Still, how would we respond to North Korean theatre and their traditional music? This Dvorak symphony may have sounded to them as if it disregarded basic musical grammar or textures. It may sound too structured, or not structured enough. Bland, or too sharp in places? I have no idea. All I know is that it is often very difficult to absorb music (or any kind of performance) from another society on only a single hearing. And there are differences in how an audience demonstrates enjoyment. Japanese audiences can be very quiet during a cinema screening, because that is how they show respect and engagement.
@@CaminoAir You are right. We dont know how people around this world react to music. And knowing it is hard to understand music you never heard, I believe this audience doesnt have a clue what it is about. But as good communistic citizens they applaud.
Terrific performance, really, one of the best I ever heard in my life... What an amazing orchestra and an excellent Maazel (Rest in peace Maestro...)
Lorin Maazel beim Dirigieren zuzusehen ist eine große Freude…Danke für diese außergewöhnliche Aufnahme.
And this one of Celibitache…
of course !!!!
music is the most universal language in the world & one of the most complicated to create - understood in every country.
Gorgeous. Thank you!!
Our pleasure. Thank you for watching!
4:52 🥰
5:17 This increasing 🥰
14:15 This man ❤️
25:02 to 25:36 Cute melody
30:57 Sharks coming 🦈
31:11 to 32:32 🔥
33:33 🥰
34:34 and 34:47 Little birds🐦
One of the best interpretation of this symphony.
Maazel was a legend and truly understood the power of brass. It shines beautifully here with this symphony. And what a bizarre scenario playing music in a walled off society. I bet the orchestra and the audience won't forget this concert.
Fascinating to watch the audience as well. I wonder what is going through their heads having just a small peek at the outside world.
Yes, an adequate question. What is going on in the publics heads listening to this? I believe they think this is heroic music from the other side, we have our own heroic music. And our heroic music is better than this "Dvorak". But I still hope that this music and this occasion will stay in their memory.
Maazel was overhyped and borderline mediocre
@@AndreyRubtsovRU Tell me you were dropped on your head as a child without telling me...
@@danielwilkins6302: Oh dear 😅
@AndreyRubtsovRU : According to WHO exactly please 🤔? The video was shared without any caveat and you dared go off on such a rant? It is indeed a world of intrigues and wonders...
hmmmmmmmmmmm....
Terrific performance and beautiful sound.
I rented this DVD about a decade ago and was shocked by how beautiful and profound this performance was. The English Horn, in particular, is the best I've ever heard. Haunting. I am so glad to have found it again.
Weltklasse habs live auf ARTE gesehen vor 10 Jahren!!!
I saw this on PBS. Seeing how it moves people is so amazing.
Jsem hrdy clovek z male zeme s velkym srdcem❤
So true! So very very true! Malá země, velké srdce. I love it. Thank you for saying that!
Czechia? Já jsem Americky, rad te poznavam! Trochu rozumim česky.
Linda interpretação
One of the best orchestras in the world is playing my favorite symphony in one of the most interesting countries in the world? Oh! My! God!
This type of cultural exchange is amazing!
this is an incredible recording
BRAVO!, AUSGEZEICHNET!
15:50 i was here
Saving this for timeskip
Wonderful. Marvellous! A lovely concert hall too; wonder what it is used for nowadays? For me, the greatest performance I’ve ever heard. What a shame that NK has isolated itself. South Korea is alive with music, while North Korea hates. Loved Lorin Maazel; great musician and conductor.
South Korea treats their musicians like slaves. Not the best comparison to make.
Thomas Stacy English Horn ❤
Ein Großereignis!
30:57 This is what you came for. Don’t thank me, you’re welcome
First time i hear Largo in first episode of Little Einsteins
For those who are not familiar with the actual on-site audio recording of this historic N.Y. Phil concert in North Korea in 2008 (it was broadcast live back in the States at the time), may I be so bold (and honest) as to point out that this is an edited and "fixed" copy of the concert, not the one the audience actually heard. During the actual concert, for a glaring example, the solo horn failed to reach the high note near the end of the 4th movement (at about 39:07-ish). Of course, probably not many in the audience noticed the failed but critical note. But I am sure those familiar with this beloved symphony, including the musicians and Maazel himself, must have all noticed the shocking failure. It's one of those stunning "oh, no" moments. This is not the first time I heard the N.Y. Phil horn section (principal?) failing to deliver. It also shows the risks musicians have to take when giving a live concert. That said, I remembered that I enjoyed the (original) concert for its historical significance. I am still grateful for this video upload, but I am disappointed and felt cheated that the audio portion has been edited ("voiced over") to hide the blemishes. The audio you heard here is a fake.
Wow, some statement! Can you prove this?
@@loekmulder6300 Very simple. Get a copy (if available to you) of the original broadcast video or audio (I also listened to an FM audio broadcast at the time: exactly the same false note from the horn player). Another way, if feasible, is to ask the NY Phil players (any one of them who took part in the historic concert). After that (i.e., that no such recording ever existed and all NY Phil musicians (including the horn player himself, if he is still with the NY Phil) denied of such failure, then, just consider what I said another of those "disinformation" campaigns, perhaps to soil the NY Phil's reputation (BTW, I am a great NY Phil fan) and you would be happy to continue to believe that this upload "is" the authentic version the audience at the historic concert actually heard.
yeah. this is such a high note. nothing shocking here. it's shocking that we still put some value on that. would a symphony be a lesser one if the note were one octave lower? no. so why? why to we treat music as an olympic sport? childish and stupid.
@@AndreyRubtsovRU When Dvořák penned that high note for the solo horn as he composed the symphony in New York City between January 10 and May 24, 1893, he did not mark his score there saying this high note is challenging to play and may be lowered one octave if you find it too difficult. No, he put it right there for the horn player, and we should honor Dvořák’s artistic vision there as well and try our best to do his music justice. Indeed, if you lower the note by one octave, you are violating Dvořák’s artistic integrity, diminishing its value and, yes, making it a “lesser one” as you so accurately put it. So far as I am aware of, no interpreters (musicians and conductors etc.) ever since the symphony’s premiere at Carnegie Hall on December 16, 1893, have ever considered performing this symphony an “Olympic” sport. At least the producers of this composite video/audio realized the importance of this high note, took it more seriously than your flippant view of it, and tried to “cover up” the disappointing “flaw” (however insignificant you consider it to be). By the way, I have personally heard at least two live performances of this symphony by two youth orchestras where the horn players failed to deliver in quite a few passages but, to my amazement, delivered this crucial high note. So, it can be done. I’m sure the N.Y. Phil horn player must have successfully played the note during rehearsals and other live performances. He just had an unlucky day at this historical concert in North Korea.
@@wendychen5779 goodness me you seem to have a lot of free time
Gomu gomu no stormu.
Is that a painted mural of an audience or are they live souls afraid to express emotion.
North Korea: Wild, crazy stuff!
Where is Kim J-U?
8:39 ❤
If the objective was to show the superior creativity of artists living in a free western society, one could have done better than to have this tour led be the most unspontaneous, obsessive control freak martinet among all conductors alive at the time.
That said, the musicians of the NY did a really fine job.
I agree with your assesment of a conductor. Commenters here though claimed that horn missed the high note in a solo which has been edited later, so you cant probably call this a "a really fine job"
Heard a live opening NYPO season concert in Maazel's time, ending with this piece. He mucked it about with his own personal quirks, so that we felt it was more Maazel's than Dvořâk's 9th.
3:50
5:52
Why not?
At what year the concert was ?
It was in 2008. :)
@@Euroarts thanks 🌹
2008, specifically February.
I was in South Korea at the time this concert took place.
@@hardcharging this concert was in north Korea as described and written !
@@makyhsmakyhs6766 I am well aware this took place in Pyongyang, but the question wasn't where, but when. If I could remember the exact date I'd give that in addition to the month and year.
Proof of God.
I've always thought that both phrases of the opening give a beauitful depiction of a rainstick. A steady melodic decline accompanied by comparatively wave-like bursts, still slow and elegant though.
It's kind of sad because we can see the majority didn't enjoy the performance they wanted to sleep. I don't know the duration of the concert but I can bet it was more than 2 hours.
I thought the concert was in Japan !
obviously in North Korea or South Korea.
@@haoyangjin4610 north
Why would you think that.
@@tcguerrero5476 because japan usually contract with the big Phil. orchestras because they taste and like the classic music, but north Korea is not as I think , but in South Korea they are fond of the classic music over the year as the Japanese do !
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For the most part, the North Koreans seem to be very stolid
The audiences faces are gloomy relapsed and desperate , I think they came by obligatory orders and fear just to fill the hall, and they don't understand or enjoy the music
it is clear that both of the orchestra and the conductor are not pleased and convinced ,
the performance is pale and dry !
it's a pity that most of the audience are so serious - this is supposed to be an entertaining work.
And enlightening but they are all totally inscrutable. Are they afraid any emotion might get them in trouble?
@@paultaylor6821 if that's the case - I truly pity them living in fear - music should be enjoyed by all.
It's likely they're selected high ranking citizens of Pyongyang that were allowed to attend. For them it's just as special as for the people in the orchestra. This is not a normal audience. It's an audience that came to not just listen to music but represent their country in an act of diplomacy.
Forget the scary fairy tales some people here tell. There's always more reasonable explanations.
to listen to music should not be class related - It should be for all people - for a low wage audience - it should be free - the sponsors should pay the bill, people should not be turned away from music and other Entertaiment - also it should be for all ages - - should some music and other forms be classified as unsuitable for certain people unless they are warned prior - for instance - Stravinski's Rite of Spring caused an uproar, I myself have composed music which is only suited for a particular audience. @@angryyordle4640
Gloomy faces , no shadow of smile on the faces , a lot of them tend to sleep and feeling bored , unhappy community , state of fear .. too bad ! 🤐
Very sad to live in a prison but hear from the outside world.
@@paultaylor6821 good luck
Playing western music in NK?
Perfect performance ！