I agree. Tracing feels super exhausting and confusing 😅 Tracing is only good, if you notice that you're having problem with wrist movements. Like tracing a circle really fast, to relax your wrist.
As an artist, I find it strange that artists who have tons of experience now feel that they need to trace/use ai images to better themselves Maybe it's insecurities but also I hope all artists know they can draw infinitely better then a computer can
@@Noerusakuragiofficial actually it is because it's like tracing from a bit of art from each artist! AI art is many artworks at once, stolen and collaged, so yes tracing from AI art is disgusting
Hello, I just saw the video and wanted to add something. Not only do they trace AI, they also trace actual artists work and claim it as their own in some cases. A friend and I talked about it on Instagram and my friend has proof in their story highlights. After that, some of the traced art got deleted.
When I would use bases or trace things growing up, I ended up changing so many parts of it because it didn't feel right or I wanted to add other things. Eventually you realize how dumb it is because you can never take full credit. It's annoying, so i just started drawing everything and understood how rewarding the artistic process actually is. I don't understand how these people feel satisfied as artists using ai or stealing. You aren't even an artist at that point you just feel like a photo editor.
when i was tracing i was only tracing the pose bcs i couldn't draw poses in digital, i felt so bad for tracing ppls art to i was using bases without anything on it so i could make my own characters, i still kinda do this with 3D models i pose to help with perspective
I genuinely think people who pretend to be this good in two minutes in a half are only here to discourage other artists even people who became art gods in two years like leave me ALONE I'm literally so jealous
100% they are new and learned how to apply filters in Adobe. What credible artist would ever put their talent and name against AI and have it match 1:1. This is another person who thinks a couple brushstrokes makes them an artist capable of producing anything the AI generator can cook up.
YES! Because they trace actual art too, I don't know if it all is but they have often been caught traced and stealing from other artists and then deleting the posts when they pointed it out to them!
BRO TY I had saw their "ai vs art" reels and commented how sad it is that you use their obvious art skills to clout chase off ai art.. like ESPECIALLY if u say ur against AI and the account replied something in the sense of "u cant tell me what to do lol" and instantly blocked me.. 😂😂😂
It does look to me like those were beginner digital from someone who's an experienced artist. Their rendering was very basic/inexperienced, but their fundamentals were great. You absolutely could draw fisheye if you have experience drawing that type of thing in traditional medium. But the rest of their AI redrawing stuff does make me think they may have photobashed before.
Here's the thing, you shouldn't trace/ take inspo from ai. Ai as we all know makes these images by *diffusing* actual artwork made by actual artists. So if you trace or take inspo from ai, it's like *stealing* actual artwork, and making referenced pieces without the credit. Ai already stole the artwork and skills of many artists already and us doing the same thing and saying "Take that, AI!" doesn't make us any different than ai, it just proves we as humans are as incapable as ai to produce authentic artwork.
Don't overcomplicate it... You shouldn't trace AI because it has no idea what it's doing and is only averaging patterns it approximated from millions of artworks, without any of the decisions and knowledge that went with each of them. As such it might look pretty, but it looks extremely wonky the moment you look closer.
Completely wrong, it is okay to trace art for practice and taking inspiration from ai is not bad. Directly copying ai art and and saying you made it is of course wrong but if you’re using other artists art for practice I see no problem so why would it be bad to practice with ai art
I've already written them a comment in the past, not only does they trace AI as an "experiment for the algorithm" but in the past he has TRACED REAL DRAWINGS OF OTHER PEOPLE, which they cleverly removed when I and others pointed it out to them!
u should start having a thing at the start of each video that says "im not making fun of artist just the people that use AI" so u dont have to keep saying over and over in the video
@@katliente lil bit but i feel like its a waste of time for u, im not tryna be rude or anything but i just mean why waste more time having to explain the same thing over and over. i dislike when people just waste time depending on what it is so yea lmao. but great video and wow that guy is a odd person.
@katliente had the same thought. No need to keep explaining. The people who get it, get it. If someone is offended by an opinion, they shouldn't be online anyways.
Assuming their first couple posts are completely drawn from scratch, this artist really doesn't need to do the "take art back from AI" thing. They know how to draw, and their traced AI pieces simply aren't as good. I think they might just be engagement farming.
I'd cringe at myself if I would trace AI images. Like, I understand it if a complete beginner does it, is frustrated about being stuck, cant draw what they want etc. But why has it become so common for more experienced artists to do that? They're sharing it, obviously they want people to see it. Why do you want compliments, attention and praise for something you havent accomplished on your own? I would be embarrassed...
7:08 Even the "after" drawing, the artist still traced the AI mistake of having one big tooth. Like come on, if you are an artist, you should have spotted that obvious mistake the AI made. That's why it's not good to copy AI art. If someone doesn't care about the morality of using AI art in the creative process, they should at least care that you end up copying the mistakes the AI made. Resulting in you getting worse at art. You're teaching yourself mistakes. You can see proof of that because this artist didn't fix that mistake.
I will say that while there is a learning curve when going from traditional to digital, there are nuances. There have been amazing traditional artists who pick up digital art right away or in a few days. Also, if it's a screen tablet vs. a graphic tablet. Depending on how well you've learned the foundation, a lot of the learning process is just the tools and hardware overall. The foundations are universal, and you don't really need to relearn how to draw.
I remember seeing this account and was so confused about them claiming they only started 6 months ago, because that is obviously not true at all, and a very weird thing to brag about. It makes artists who have been drawing for years or even decades rethink their skills. Them tracing AI completely makes sense now, very scummy.
At the 2.49 minute you can see a copy of a Sakamoto Shinichi panel from the manga Inocent (the girl with the tongue out). So, i think is basicaly copying photos
Yeah, got a drawing tablet that I tried to use like, 2 years. Can't remember when I put it since my stuff gets put in another place every week almost, but yeah, like learning to draw for the first time, it sure isn't the same as drawing with paper and pen/pencil
Don't forget everyone. Despite all these AI posts and drama. Don't forget who inspired you. And why you even draw. Personally, I was inspired by Mangakas and Naval Artists (People who paint ships). Do I want money? Of course. But What I want more than money right now is to be as good as the people i got inspired by, Hell. I wish I could one day surpass them.
Honestly, I'm very scared for the future because people are also training ai to make videos of art process so it's going to be harder and harder to trust people and to prove that you don't use ai. The scariest part is we can't escape ai because an is trained by people and people are everywhere. My worst fear is that one day ai is going to get better and better and there are says to figure out if a piece is ai for example artist are not very good at hands so ai is not very good at hands. But one day we are going to get better. Ai is constantly training too. I'm truly scared for myself because I am a pretty young individual and a terrified for the future. I think a lot of people that used ai because they made a mistake or aren't very good at lying but what if there is an ai user out there that hasn't been caught yet😱
I don't get it why trace ai? I only trace real life photos for things like hands or an eye from time to time I don't use ai in my process at all really Now there's been a time where i used ai on a mood board but never really use it Sucks that Pinterest can't separate art from ai It be hard to tell sometimes Also you can learn digital art pretty fast, i did, but like i wasn't at that level yet I think my art after 3 years of digital has improved a lot
Tracing ai I can understand for practice but not to post of claim, since tracing can really help you learn. But this obviously isn’t what they were doing ofc
Its crazy cause I clicked on this video through an update from an artist on instagram that exposed them for using other people's digital art, adding one different thing on it and then calling it original 😭😭😭
@@DayDreamling Yeee it was a few days ago that I stumbled upon a reel of it. They'd do the same thing they did as this video explains but instead of AI its some of the art used was from twitter artist. I cant find the reel of the artist but the soul purpose of that reel was because they had they art stolen and edited just like everyone else's. Though after a while I think the stolen piece is deleted off of their page
From a copyright perspective making changes to the image makes the changes copyrightable. So he is in the legal sense he is taking back art from the AI.
I don't know that much about other countries, but in germany AI pictures usually don't have any copyright status, allowing you to use it as you please (as long as it doesn't look too similar too already copyrighted stuff obviously), but you might've a hard time protecting it in court. Though mind, that most countries doesn't have fair use laws like int the US, which might still allow for copyrights of such products.
They started "AI art" 6 months ago. Because I think its obvious that all of their art is AI with filters and and a little editing. Too much variations in style. Plus they literally told on themselves by posting the AI versions they used. I seriously doubt they are a skilled artist. Because otherwise, they would post original works. and WIPs.
😂 I swear half the “art” in my timeline atm is this sort of traced or filtered AI. Bc let’s be honest, nobody can illustrate from scratch this quickly & most of these folks post multiple times per day
Am an artist... started digital mid 2021... it was so shet then now 2024, I got better at drawing my OCs and fanart... no way this only took 6 months, even if you are practicing drawing daily. I drew traditionally from 2019, moved to digital 2021
I wanted to try ai for inspiration and when it rendered the idea I felt like a delinquent and ended up disregarding that path and taking some pics just for reference which turned my art piece into an actual art piece. I’m a little too old to even try AI and don’t feel like a cheater but some people may find it useful. Not for me, not for me!
this creator whose video you are watching has made up lies, ignored speedpaints etc of celestialetherea and also sent so much hate their way that they got doxxed and threatened. She made the whole thing up for clout and now refuses to delete the video. Katliente has also driven a few pregnant girls to suicide. So pick your side carefully.
i aint gonna lie, im an enjoyer of tracing ai art. (i never share it unless its to friends and i always tell them its traced. sometimes its fun to just color!)
every time you spend the hour or two it take doing that i hope you remember you could actually learn how to draw it instead. every hour you spent wasting time on that is another hour of actually learning experience down the drain, youll wake up ten years from now and wonder why youre not getting any better at art.
I think there is nothing wrong if it is something you admit openly, that person did not do it until he was discovered and in some of his old works he traced drawings of other artists
I've been watching your channel because I'm approaching the point of taking my own art to the pro level, create an online presence, and try to live off of it (hence, I've watched plenty of art vids and you got suggested in my algo). First of all, love your content! Keep it up please! Secondly, LOL holy F I'm getting ready to step into a drama-filled hellscape aren't I? 😂😂
Just use AI as a tool to keep practicing as a REFERENCE to try and recreate. Tracing is tracing no matter what it is, AI, Reference photos, Realism art photos, it doesn't matter. Tracing too much is just not as good as it seems, especially when you're tryna make bank out of it. AI might only be good if you don't wanna copy other reference photos or you maybe don't wanna get copyrighted, so then you just create your own artificial idea and recolor it.
Oh my god ! I talked to them jul 21 bc an artist i followed had suspicion about their art. I told them on their comment section that i felt like it was very suspicious and it looked traced or repainted i dont remember exactly and they were mean and very aggressive immediately. I told them that generating ai pictures was 1. Stealing from artist and 2. Destroying the environment. They then told me to get therapy and they blocked me bc i told them the ANTI AI in their bio was hypocritical lol... The artist that made me discover this persons art on their story also talked to them in dms and asked them if they could see the speedpaint of the nun one and i cant find it again but the speedpaint was soooooo suspicious, it looked like some elements popped out of nowhere it was really weird !!! Im glad they are being called out by a bigger creator because i dont think this is the right way of "fighting ai" lol.... Its just engagement bait if you ask me, not anti ai "activism" Edit: i think they are educated on the topic, not minisformed, but just. Dont care. As i said i talked to them and i would say that i articulate my point pretty well but they consciously choose to not care and ignore my concerns because they dont care and they want that internet fame.
It does sound good on paper(no pun intended), but they're still participating in AI Art just by tracing over it, and art tracing is considered by many to be a touchy subject.
I watched that video too, honestly I don't know if the allegations are real, if it is I won't support the streamer anymore... but about the "artist", she accuses her of lying but I and other people can say for sure that she (the streamer) did not lie as in the past she traced drawings of other artists! They were deleted when some people called her out
@@possumvile I'm not usually mean, but man, it pisses me off that she has the audacity to feel sorry for herself when she stole other people's work and then write "repost with credit" in her bio. I don't believe in karma but I hope it takes its course
Misleading info: if you're a traditional artist and start drawing digitally, you don't relearn from scratch. You immediately start rocking. Especially if you use a screen tablet, it is a great advantage to have traditional art skills. I've seen artist who never touched a stylus immediately starts drawing great stuff when presented a screen tablet. You better do traditional mediums drawing to grow as an artist. (I'm not defending anyone here, just correcting what seems to be a bad tip for beginners )
...Or you know... when that artist did the whole "F-Ai" thingu, they were not saying that they made art, but were saying: "Look, this is how I change Ai and piss on it/make it better/whatever"... So the "artist" isn't saying that they draw things or anything... they are saying that they use a computer to change real life images and AI art to create something that look a bit different. But yeah... it is still pretty dumb.
You know what's so discouraging? When people say that they have only been drawing for 6 months and they're just so so so much better than you and you've been working on drawing for years and you're not even close to their skill. It's unrealistic, sure there are exceptions but most of us can't just get better within 6 months, some of us take years. I've been drawing for 15 years and I'm still shit at it (to be fair to myself, i'm handicapped) and then when it turns out that those people lied about having improved so much, it just feels like a slap in the face towards anyone actually trying to get better.
It does take years. It's a constant practice, studying, applying the learned subject, let the brain assimilate it and remember it as you keep practicing. Don't let that discourage you. The worst thing you can do is lie to yourself and that's exactly what these people are doing. While they waste their time lying and using shortcuts, you're using that time to improve. In the end, you'll be the one who turns into a skilled artist and not them.
Classic AI-bro being completely disconnected from the art journey. If they were a true artist they would know their lies were not believable. Proof of using AI aside, if AI didn't exist they would have been (rightfully) accused of tracing. No one starts this good, even master traditional artists feel out of their element when first doing digital and take quite a bit to get used to it. Give me a break...
The thing is, that being a true artist, especially in the beginning of your internet career, can be quite demoralizing when you see like next to no engagement on your pieces for quite some while. Like you might've been posting for over a year and barely scratch on the 100 follower goal and then someone like this comes around, posting AI stuff left and right and getting nearly 3k followers after 6 month. Many artists have the pride to not resort to such methods, but some people, who value the praise of others higher than their own dignity might go down that bath. And this is not solely a problem of the art community on its own, but about social media in general. The single most important thing is to be as active as possible. If you can post stuff daily, then that's already a big step, but many artists might not have the time to finish an art piece every day, so they can easily fall behind, especially compared to the tight release schedule of AI people, who already automated like 90 % of their workflow.
ok, one question. one time i asked an ai to draw a black and white sketch for me, and then i traced it, adapted it and coloured it. is that so bad as this?
I think it's okay if you're practicing or studying a concept, there's nothing wrong with that. It's just that you shouldn't claim it as your own as you didn't draw the sketch.
this creator whose video you are watching has made up lies, ignored speedpaints etc of celestialetherea and also sent so much hate their way that they got doxxed and threatened. She made the whole thing up for clout and now refuses to delete the video. Katliente has also driven a few pregnant girls to suicide. So pick your side carefully.
@@flyingorange2482 the creator she is covering in this video has proved many times with times with timelapses and speedpaints they do not trace. they are also not an ai artist, they were doing a trend that EVERYONE else was doing. they were not trying to hide they use ai bc they dont, it was for a trend.
@@flyingorange2482 the other situation: katliente tried calling out a group that was harassing someone, but turns out she didn't have info and she was making shit out of her ass and the group that was supposedly harrasing someone was getting harassed instead, 2 of the girls accounts got suspended due to the video she made (she told her fans to mass report them) everyone started calling her out and she said that she didn't care since the girls didn't have a big following and couldn't ruin her career. One of them was pregnant and suspected to not be alive anymore because of her. :( my heart goes out to them
IDK. Im a traditional artist who started doing digital also (not instead of) and i didnt find it hard to switch up. But maybe its cuz i draw everything i do digitally too, lol, i dont use the brushes for clouds or jewellry or whatever or use the tools for making straight lines, curved lines, circles..... Im probably wasting SO much time, but.....whatever! IDC!🤣🤣
In my opinion this is a beginner artist after all, since these are basically photo collages using traced images from various places. You just demonstrated how easy it is to make something like that. All it takes is tracing some photos from google or from AI, slapping it all together in pthotoshop, then add some random brush strokes and heavy filters to make it look edgy and you get this. Inconsistent and flashy style with no focal point and poor composition. This is like childs play. Using all the effects at once is something to notice when beginner explores Adobe programs.
Why can’t people not use ai for once. Like people be actually having good drawing talent then they use ai. Like come on. Kat I pray u are having an awesome vacation in Korea.
this creator whose video you are watching has made up lies, ignored speedpaints etc of celestialetherea and also sent so much hate their way that they got doxxed and threatened. She made the whole thing up for clout and now refuses to delete the video. Katliente has also driven a few pregnant girls to suicide. So pick your side carefully.
I mean, using ai art as a base for tracing sounds smart if you wanna improve. But starting and posting them claiming it’s free handed it’s just wrong. At least say it’s traced, i wouldnt care too much if you said it out loud
No gonna lie, i dont really see an issue with an artist taking an already existing AI image and doing something new with it. I also think is okay to trace over AI images to do something new. I dunno, it doesnf botter me if the final piece looks different. I am not saying it demands talent or skill, nor am I saying is amazing. It can look very mediocre. I just don't see a issue with someone expressing their artistic needs this way. Main problem is they are not doing anything new lol
It is ok to reference somewhat ai art without tracing over it it’s the same thing as a dtiys same thing as referencing even some real life images like clothing (which is its own art form) is that stealing?? Ai art is art just not by the generator. It’s art that’s mashed together. It’s the same thing as referencing or redrawing any other art except it’s mashed together
how do we send artists to you? there's an instagram artist floating around the ffxiv community that is constantly getting accused of using AI, but they keep defending themselves xD i like to have the benefit of the doubt, but the dude's art style changed so much, so often in the course of like several months that IT'S JUST SO SUPICIOUS lmfaoo I think i might have been picking up a lot of habits from your videos
I'll bet the starting pieces you called as a good artstyle and having a good art eye are traced. You can see it the most in the piece at 0:38 - That's literally drawing over a photo/artwork with a round brush, no opacity. All of their "art" is traced collages, none is real.
7:41 ok i think this is a little too much. Don't get me wrong, I understand the hatred for AI and the fact that AI Art is pretty much build on stolen art, that's undeniable. But to say this, feels like "If you eat meat, you are contributing to killing an animal.", am I an art stealer if I take as reference a dress I saw on a AI image? Or an art style? Or a pose? Mind you, I am talking about images already done that circulate for example in Pinterest. While fighting AI is commendable, I don't think that you using something that YOU yourself, didn't contribute into creating, is stealing. Yes, is morally devious to some extent, but you are not stealing from an artist nor are you promoting the companies that steal from artists.
this creator whose video you are watching has made up lies, ignored speedpaints etc of celestialetherea and also sent so much hate their way that they got doxxed and threatened. She made the whole thing up for clout and now refuses to delete the video. Katliente has also driven a few pregnant girls to suicide. So pick your side carefully.
Ok I'm going to make a comment because you say things that for me are not true at all, the robot girl piece is clearly not a filter, and probably not traced either, here's why : The mouth is not the same, it's more closed and is not exactly in the same place, the robot pieces are not the same, not the same details, not on the same places, ect.. The hair AS to be drawn by hand because it's translucide no it has to be drawn by hand, the scars aren't even here on the original piece, they are not in the exact same posture either. For the other ones, It's clearly the same exact pictures with addings, I'm not going to say anything on that.
I disagree about not being able to use AI as reference and solely reference. I think it can help with character design and there’s nothing wrong with utilizing design with inspiration. Just my opinion though. I get people think it doesn’t “take back” but there is literally almost no way to tell the dozens, if not hundreds of artists that AI references off of. If it’s gonna make a Frankenstein, then I’m gonna kidnap the Frankenstein, model a beautiful mannequin out of it, and kick the Frankenstein to the curb.
this creator whose video you are watching has made up lies, ignored speedpaints etc of celestialetherea and also sent so much hate their way that they got doxxed and threatened. She made the whole thing up for clout and now refuses to delete the video. Katliente has also driven a few pregnant girls to suicide. So pick your side carefully.
You are SO SO SO soft to this one in comparison to others, who do the same! (You roasted them, good!). This "artist" is just tracing as well 😅I bet he*she is tracing the extra elements as too.
Are you gonna respond and apologize for ruining people's careers by spreading false information because you couldn't be bothered to get your facts straight? Also kinda weird that you're responding to comments when you said you're on vacation.
same happened here, this creator whose video you are watching has made up lies, ignored speedpaints etc of celestialetherea and also sent so much hate their way that they got doxxed and threatened. She made the whole thing up for clout and now refuses to delete the video.
I still don’t think u should witch hunt people I used to do it if u can see it shame on them if they are making profit and acting like it truly is they’re own without any editing or any real input and they are also really bad artist underneath it all we all start somewhere but do not boast about how good you are and flaunt like u made tonsa art it’s okay to trace some or draw inspiration here and there but yah it’s good to point out hypocrisies but please take into account for all the good these tools are doing they really are helping and there can be enough art and money to go around for all of us but it’s good u can point out the scum who are trying to use this to turn profit and frame everything as they’re own without being honest or the hypocrits
It’s just the same rhetoric ai bros are trying to get artists to get behind. “No one owns it so you can steal it 🤪” use your brain and go find a real reference. 🤦♀️
That’s valid? People steal ai drawings all the time because it makes sense. People do it because they feel that ai art is bad and doesn’t have the rights to own it. So real artists steal the ai art to strengthen their ideas. It’s completely good. Just like when people make sample ai character designs and posts them so artists can steal the idea for their own characters.
this creator whose video you are watching has made up lies, ignored speedpaints etc of celestialetherea and also sent so much hate their way that they got doxxed and threatened. She made the whole thing up for clout and now refuses to delete the video. Katliente has also driven a few pregnant girls to suicide. So pick your side carefully.
Hi! I think there is nothing wrong if it is something you admit openly, that person did not do it until she was discovered and in some of her works she TRACED DRAWINGS OF OTHER ARTISTS without getting any credits to them, this is a theft! She is a thief, but she has the audacity to put in her bio "repost with credit", very ironic and very inconsistent. Some people and I called her out for this and those drawings magically disappeared and she never said sorry for this. Some people have photographic evidence of this (of the stolen artworks).
I don't know anything about this streamer but she is telling the truth. Also, that artist has been called out by several users (including me) for being caught stealing other artists' work without giving them any credit. Those drawings magically disappeared when we pointed them out to her. There's proof if you want.
as a artist I always found it harder to trace compared to actually drawing
i agree
Real lol
I agree. Tracing feels super exhausting and confusing 😅
Tracing is only good, if you notice that you're having problem with wrist movements. Like tracing a circle really fast, to relax your wrist.
Sameeee, that’s why I hate doing lineart, it’s so exhausting 😭
Standing at a light box in art class trying to trace something while everyone else is anxiously waiting their turns 😭
My favourite thing to see online now is when AI "artists" say "DO NOT REPOST" like what?
that makes me crack up sm xD
Yeah that's just funny to me
I feel like making an account just to repost to piss them off but then again I don’t feel like having more ai around 😂
@@katliente :O Also I love your videos because you cover so much stuff I don't know how you can upload so consistently lol
its always funny when they think they actually own their "artwork" theyre not protected with copyright like we are lol
Saw the thumbnail and was like "that's not traced, that's recolored"
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As an artist, I find it strange that artists who have tons of experience now feel that they need to trace/use ai images to better themselves
Maybe it's insecurities but also I hope all artists know they can draw infinitely better then a computer can
Yeah like bro AI is bs. I'm 13 and my art is way better than ANY AI.
@@SamiFreewow let’s not get to ahead of ourselves bud
@@oSpcDandythey’re not lying tho + what’s wrong with saying your art is better than AI lmao
Actually you can learn AI art. I honestly don’t think that tracing AI art is bad. We can learn from the art style or shading of AI
@@Noerusakuragiofficial actually it is because it's like tracing from a bit of art from each artist! AI art is many artworks at once, stolen and collaged, so yes tracing from AI art is disgusting
Not what I would expect after reading "Anti Ai"
Hello, I just saw the video and wanted to add something. Not only do they trace AI, they also trace actual artists work and claim it as their own in some cases. A friend and I talked about it on Instagram and my friend has proof in their story highlights. After that, some of the traced art got deleted.
And I‘d like to add that they sell that work online.
YES, I called her out too for this because for a very familiar post, then she deleted it
0:56 They said they’ve been doing DIGITAL for six months
When I would use bases or trace things growing up, I ended up changing so many parts of it because it didn't feel right or I wanted to add other things. Eventually you realize how dumb it is because you can never take full credit. It's annoying, so i just started drawing everything and understood how rewarding the artistic process actually is. I don't understand how these people feel satisfied as artists using ai or stealing. You aren't even an artist at that point you just feel like a photo editor.
when i was tracing i was only tracing the pose bcs i couldn't draw poses in digital, i felt so bad for tracing ppls art to i was using bases without anything on it so i could make my own characters, i still kinda do this with 3D models i pose to help with perspective
I genuinely think people who pretend to be this good in two minutes in a half are only here to discourage other artists
even people who became art gods in two years like leave me ALONE I'm literally so jealous
100% they are new and learned how to apply filters in Adobe. What credible artist would ever put their talent and name against AI and have it match 1:1. This is another person who thinks a couple brushstrokes makes them an artist capable of producing anything the AI generator can cook up.
2:47 Looks like art from the manga innocent rouge
Also a lot of the pieces look like something I've seen in pintrest
YES! Because they trace actual art too, I don't know if it all is but they have often been caught traced and stealing from other artists and then deleting the posts when they pointed it out to them!
If I had a nickel for every time someone shouted “f*ck AI” but traces over AI…
They're all "I'm taking back what AI stole from me."😡
No, you'll be rich.
why am I not surprised anymore? thank you Kat for another update
BRO TY I had saw their "ai vs art" reels and commented how sad it is that you use their obvious art skills to clout chase off ai art.. like ESPECIALLY if u say ur against AI and the account replied something in the sense of "u cant tell me what to do lol" and instantly blocked me.. 😂😂😂
It does look to me like those were beginner digital from someone who's an experienced artist. Their rendering was very basic/inexperienced, but their fundamentals were great. You absolutely could draw fisheye if you have experience drawing that type of thing in traditional medium. But the rest of their AI redrawing stuff does make me think they may have photobashed before.
You can just use perspective grids or distort the image for a rough approximation.
Here's the thing, you shouldn't trace/ take inspo from ai. Ai as we all know makes these images by *diffusing* actual artwork made by actual artists. So if you trace or take inspo from ai, it's like *stealing* actual artwork, and making referenced pieces without the credit. Ai already stole the artwork and skills of many artists already and us doing the same thing and saying "Take that, AI!" doesn't make us any different than ai, it just proves we as humans are as incapable as ai to produce authentic artwork.
Don't overcomplicate it...
You shouldn't trace AI because it has no idea what it's doing and is only averaging patterns it approximated from millions of artworks, without any of the decisions and knowledge that went with each of them.
As such it might look pretty, but it looks extremely wonky the moment you look closer.
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@@militaryzoned2964
yea, image generators get anatomy, proportions, lighting, and perspective wrong more often than a trained human artist
Completely wrong, it is okay to trace art for practice and taking inspiration from ai is not bad. Directly copying ai art and and saying you made it is of course wrong but if you’re using other artists art for practice I see no problem so why would it be bad to practice with ai art
@@hikari4415 babes, what’s not clicking? AI art has horrible lighting, anatomy & consistency issues💀
I've already written them a comment in the past, not only does they trace AI as an "experiment for the algorithm" but in the past he has TRACED REAL DRAWINGS OF OTHER PEOPLE, which they cleverly removed when I and others pointed it out to them!
u should start having a thing at the start of each video that says "im not making fun of artist just the people that use AI" so u dont have to keep saying over and over in the video
honestly true :o for ppl who have seen my other vids it’s probably very annoying 🥲
@@katliente lil bit but i feel like its a waste of time for u, im not tryna be rude or anything but i just mean why waste more time having to explain the same thing over and over. i dislike when people just waste time depending on what it is so yea lmao. but great video and wow that guy is a odd person.
@katliente had the same thought. No need to keep explaining. The people who get it, get it. If someone is offended by an opinion, they shouldn't be online anyways.
@@ds7590 FACTS, people are kinda soft.
Assuming their first couple posts are completely drawn from scratch, this artist really doesn't need to do the "take art back from AI" thing. They know how to draw, and their traced AI pieces simply aren't as good. I think they might just be engagement farming.
I'd cringe at myself if I would trace AI images. Like, I understand it if a complete beginner does it, is frustrated about being stuck, cant draw what they want etc. But why has it become so common for more experienced artists to do that? They're sharing it, obviously they want people to see it. Why do you want compliments, attention and praise for something you havent accomplished on your own? I would be embarrassed...
7:08 Even the "after" drawing, the artist still traced the AI mistake of having one big tooth. Like come on, if you are an artist, you should have spotted that obvious mistake the AI made. That's why it's not good to copy AI art. If someone doesn't care about the morality of using AI art in the creative process, they should at least care that you end up copying the mistakes the AI made. Resulting in you getting worse at art. You're teaching yourself mistakes. You can see proof of that because this artist didn't fix that mistake.
I will say that while there is a learning curve when going from traditional to digital, there are nuances. There have been amazing traditional artists who pick up digital art right away or in a few days. Also, if it's a screen tablet vs. a graphic tablet. Depending on how well you've learned the foundation, a lot of the learning process is just the tools and hardware overall. The foundations are universal, and you don't really need to relearn how to draw.
This is genuinely hilarous 😂😭 I mean the title speak for itself even without the context
I remember seeing this account and was so confused about them claiming they only started 6 months ago, because that is obviously not true at all, and a very weird thing to brag about. It makes artists who have been drawing for years or even decades rethink their skills. Them tracing AI completely makes sense now, very scummy.
At the 2.49 minute you can see a copy of a Sakamoto Shinichi panel from the manga Inocent (the girl with the tongue out). So, i think is basicaly copying photos
Yeah, got a drawing tablet that I tried to use like, 2 years. Can't remember when I put it since my stuff gets put in another place every week almost, but yeah, like learning to draw for the first time, it sure isn't the same as drawing with paper and pen/pencil
Don't forget everyone. Despite all these AI posts and drama. Don't forget who inspired you. And why you even draw.
Personally, I was inspired by Mangakas and Naval Artists (People who paint ships). Do I want money? Of course. But What I want more than money right now is to be as good as the people i got inspired by, Hell. I wish I could one day surpass them.
Some users were double standards.
Claimed about anti AI art and behaves like fanatic, yet in private used AI art app.
Honestly, I'm very scared for the future because people are also training ai to make videos of art process so it's going to be harder and harder to trust people and to prove that you don't use ai. The scariest part is we can't escape ai because an is trained by people and people are everywhere. My worst fear is that one day ai is going to get better and better and there are says to figure out if a piece is ai for example artist are not very good at hands so ai is not very good at hands. But one day we are going to get better. Ai is constantly training too. I'm truly scared for myself because I am a pretty young individual and a terrified for the future. I think a lot of people that used ai because they made a mistake or aren't very good at lying but what if there is an ai user out there that hasn't been caught yet😱
Btw sorry for typing this long paragraph about me just expressing my rage and thank you to people that took the time to read this😁😁
*I think a lot of people who use an get caught(sorry I was so angry I forgot to type caught😭)
the nun piece they did also had traced hands, i dont remember the artists name, but that hand piece they did is very popular
Imagine someone hating something, but doing it
I don't get it why trace ai?
I only trace real life photos for things like hands or an eye from time to time
I don't use ai in my process at all really
Now there's been a time where i used ai on a mood board but never really use it
Sucks that Pinterest can't separate art from ai
It be hard to tell sometimes
Also you can learn digital art pretty fast, i did, but like i wasn't at that level yet
I think my art after 3 years of digital has improved a lot
same,, its been around 3 years for me too
Tracing ai I can understand for practice but not to post of claim, since tracing can really help you learn. But this obviously isn’t what they were doing ofc
6:31 that aint traced, that just painted over 😂
They're not tracing. They are just putting their own spin on the AI pics. Good on you for calling them out.
Its crazy cause I clicked on this video through an update from an artist on instagram that exposed them for using other people's digital art, adding one different thing on it and then calling it original 😭😭😭
Funny because that thief called the streamer a liar despite all the evidence from all the people calling her out
@@DayDreamling Yeee it was a few days ago that I stumbled upon a reel of it. They'd do the same thing they did as this video explains but instead of AI its some of the art used was from twitter artist. I cant find the reel of the artist but the soul purpose of that reel was because they had they art stolen and edited just like everyone else's. Though after a while I think the stolen piece is deleted off of their page
From a copyright perspective making changes to the image makes the changes copyrightable. So he is in the legal sense he is taking back art from the AI.
I don't know that much about other countries, but in germany AI pictures usually don't have any copyright status, allowing you to use it as you please (as long as it doesn't look too similar too already copyrighted stuff obviously), but you might've a hard time protecting it in court. Though mind, that most countries doesn't have fair use laws like int the US, which might still allow for copyrights of such products.
They started "AI art" 6 months ago. Because I think its obvious that all of their art is AI with filters and and a little editing. Too much variations in style. Plus they literally told on themselves by posting the AI versions they used. I seriously doubt they are a skilled artist. Because otherwise, they would post original works. and WIPs.
They deleted the AI vs Beginner now
😂 I swear half the “art” in my timeline atm is this sort of traced or filtered AI. Bc let’s be honest, nobody can illustrate from scratch this quickly & most of these folks post multiple times per day
I don't believe someone in their digital art for the 1st month is able to know all these filters. The "beginner" is just rage bait.
they say they are anti AI so that no one will suspect them for using AI, we ain't falling for that
Am an artist... started digital mid 2021... it was so shet then now 2024, I got better at drawing my OCs and fanart... no way this only took 6 months, even if you are practicing drawing daily. I drew traditionally from 2019, moved to digital 2021
They also traced the art of an artist I follow.....
I wanted to try ai for inspiration and when it rendered the idea I felt like a delinquent and ended up disregarding that path and taking some pics just for reference which turned my art piece into an actual art piece. I’m a little too old to even try AI and don’t feel like a cheater but some people may find it useful. Not for me, not for me!
You’re now officially the ai artist exposer. Good work soldier 🫡
They claimed to draw digitally for 6 month maybe they have a background in traditional painting
Honestly they seem very much like a beginner, the drawing is stiff and any fundamentals that look good are traced directly from ai.
Please keep nitpicking.... i think i'm going back to drawing with a pencil on paper.. so sick of cheaters.
no way ive been mutuals with this person since they started posting
this creator whose video you are watching has made up lies, ignored speedpaints etc of celestialetherea and also sent so much hate their way that they got doxxed and threatened. She made the whole thing up for clout and now refuses to delete the video. Katliente has also driven a few pregnant girls to suicide. So pick your side carefully.
I can recognize some of the artwork. a lot of them are traced from 3d artists that've seen on artstation
Can you drop some of the artist's nicknames? If this doesn't bother you, obviously! I want to follow the real people who create those works
dude its coming to the point where its harder to fake it than drawing the dang thing 💀
i aint gonna lie, im an enjoyer of tracing ai art. (i never share it unless its to friends and i always tell them its traced. sometimes its fun to just color!)
every time you spend the hour or two it take doing that i hope you remember you could actually learn how to draw it instead. every hour you spent wasting time on that is another hour of actually learning experience down the drain, youll wake up ten years from now and wonder why youre not getting any better at art.
I think there is nothing wrong if it is something you admit openly, that person did not do it until he was discovered and in some of his old works he traced drawings of other artists
@@DayDreamling yes that is extremely icky!
I've been watching your channel because I'm approaching the point of taking my own art to the pro level, create an online presence, and try to live off of it (hence, I've watched plenty of art vids and you got suggested in my algo).
First of all, love your content! Keep it up please!
Secondly, LOL holy F I'm getting ready to step into a drama-filled hellscape aren't I? 😂😂
Just use AI as a tool to keep practicing as a REFERENCE to try and recreate. Tracing is tracing no matter what it is, AI, Reference photos, Realism art photos, it doesn't matter. Tracing too much is just not as good as it seems, especially when you're tryna make bank out of it. AI might only be good if you don't wanna copy other reference photos or you maybe don't wanna get copyrighted, so then you just create your own artificial idea and recolor it.
i love her videos so much her voice is so real and honest lowkey my therapy
Oh my god ! I talked to them jul 21 bc an artist i followed had suspicion about their art. I told them on their comment section that i felt like it was very suspicious and it looked traced or repainted i dont remember exactly and they were mean and very aggressive immediately. I told them that generating ai pictures was 1. Stealing from artist and 2. Destroying the environment. They then told me to get therapy and they blocked me bc i told them the ANTI AI in their bio was hypocritical lol...
The artist that made me discover this persons art on their story also talked to them in dms and asked them if they could see the speedpaint of the nun one and i cant find it again but the speedpaint was soooooo suspicious, it looked like some elements popped out of nowhere it was really weird !!! Im glad they are being called out by a bigger creator because i dont think this is the right way of "fighting ai" lol.... Its just engagement bait if you ask me, not anti ai "activism"
Edit: i think they are educated on the topic, not minisformed, but just. Dont care. As i said i talked to them and i would say that i articulate my point pretty well but they consciously choose to not care and ignore my concerns because they dont care and they want that internet fame.
It does sound good on paper(no pun intended), but they're still participating in AI Art just by tracing over it, and art tracing is considered by many to be a touchy subject.
She posted about this video and accused you of some pretty awful things on Instagram
I watched that video too, honestly I don't know if the allegations are real, if it is I won't support the streamer anymore... but about the "artist", she accuses her of lying but I and other people can say for sure that she (the streamer) did not lie as in the past she traced drawings of other artists! They were deleted when some people called her out
@@DayDreamling yeah I commented on her post asking for evidence and she deleted the post
@@possumvile I'm not usually mean, but man, it pisses me off that she has the audacity to feel sorry for herself when she stole other people's work and then write "repost with credit" in her bio. I don't believe in karma but I hope it takes its course
man what is up with all of this ai art. i feel like the love of the craft is slowly dying
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Misleading info: if you're a traditional artist and start drawing digitally, you don't relearn from scratch. You immediately start rocking. Especially if you use a screen tablet, it is a great advantage to have traditional art skills. I've seen artist who never touched a stylus immediately starts drawing great stuff when presented a screen tablet. You better do traditional mediums drawing to grow as an artist. (I'm not defending anyone here, just correcting what seems to be a bad tip for beginners )
...Or you know... when that artist did the whole "F-Ai" thingu, they were not saying that they made art, but were saying:
"Look, this is how I change Ai and piss on it/make it better/whatever"...
So the "artist" isn't saying that they draw things or anything... they are saying that they use a computer to change real life images and AI art to create something that look a bit different.
But yeah... it is still pretty dumb.
Omg this is the first time in early😭😭 I love your videos so much!!!!!!
Erojosh's protege
You know what's so discouraging? When people say that they have only been drawing for 6 months and they're just so so so much better than you and you've been working on drawing for years and you're not even close to their skill. It's unrealistic, sure there are exceptions but most of us can't just get better within 6 months, some of us take years. I've been drawing for 15 years and I'm still shit at it (to be fair to myself, i'm handicapped) and then when it turns out that those people lied about having improved so much, it just feels like a slap in the face towards anyone actually trying to get better.
It does take years. It's a constant practice, studying, applying the learned subject, let the brain assimilate it and remember it as you keep practicing.
Don't let that discourage you. The worst thing you can do is lie to yourself and that's exactly what these people are doing. While they waste their time lying and using shortcuts, you're using that time to improve. In the end, you'll be the one who turns into a skilled artist and not them.
Man, I feel you. Sending hugs 🫂
Please, don't give up
The one with the tongue out of the mouth is pretty famous if I remember, I saw it before, I am pretty sure that is robbed
Classic AI-bro being completely disconnected from the art journey. If they were a true artist they would know their lies were not believable. Proof of using AI aside, if AI didn't exist they would have been (rightfully) accused of tracing. No one starts this good, even master traditional artists feel out of their element when first doing digital and take quite a bit to get used to it. Give me a break...
The thing is, that being a true artist, especially in the beginning of your internet career, can be quite demoralizing when you see like next to no engagement on your pieces for quite some while. Like you might've been posting for over a year and barely scratch on the 100 follower goal and then someone like this comes around, posting AI stuff left and right and getting nearly 3k followers after 6 month. Many artists have the pride to not resort to such methods, but some people, who value the praise of others higher than their own dignity might go down that bath.
And this is not solely a problem of the art community on its own, but about social media in general. The single most important thing is to be as active as possible. If you can post stuff daily, then that's already a big step, but many artists might not have the time to finish an art piece every day, so they can easily fall behind, especially compared to the tight release schedule of AI people, who already automated like 90 % of their workflow.
ok, one question. one time i asked an ai to draw a black and white sketch for me, and then i traced it, adapted it and coloured it. is that so bad as this?
Why are you using ai for art in first place?
I think it's okay if you're practicing or studying a concept, there's nothing wrong with that. It's just that you shouldn't claim it as your own as you didn't draw the sketch.
I mean as long as you don't claim it as 100% original n stuff and don't claim it I think it's fine just don't use it all the time
Do people know who is the person behind all these scam artists?
Its a shame, I really liked the pieces :(
Im wondering does anyone know any genuine artist that have this messy kinda futuristic psychodelic style?
this creator whose video you are watching has made up lies, ignored speedpaints etc of celestialetherea and also sent so much hate their way that they got doxxed and threatened. She made the whole thing up for clout and now refuses to delete the video. Katliente has also driven a few pregnant girls to suicide. So pick your side carefully.
@@auauauau-k6o Idk who this woman is, It just appeared randomly for me. Could you elaborate?
@@flyingorange2482 the creator she is covering in this video has proved many times with times with timelapses and speedpaints they do not trace. they are also not an ai artist, they were doing a trend that EVERYONE else was doing. they were not trying to hide they use ai bc they dont, it was for a trend.
@@flyingorange2482 the other situation: katliente tried calling out a group that was harassing someone, but turns out she didn't have info and she was making shit out of her ass and the group that was supposedly harrasing someone was getting harassed instead, 2 of the girls accounts got suspended due to the video she made (she told her fans to mass report them) everyone started calling her out and she said that she didn't care since the girls didn't have a big following and couldn't ruin her career. One of them was pregnant and suspected to not be alive anymore because of her. :( my heart goes out to them
IDK. Im a traditional artist who started doing digital also (not instead of) and i didnt find it hard to switch up. But maybe its cuz i draw everything i do digitally too, lol, i dont use the brushes for clouds or jewellry or whatever or use the tools for making straight lines, curved lines, circles.....
Im probably wasting SO much time, but.....whatever! IDC!🤣🤣
In my opinion this is a beginner artist after all, since these are basically photo collages using traced images from various places. You just demonstrated how easy it is to make something like that. All it takes is tracing some photos from google or from AI, slapping it all together in pthotoshop, then add some random brush strokes and heavy filters to make it look edgy and you get this. Inconsistent and flashy style with no focal point and poor composition. This is like childs play. Using all the effects at once is something to notice when beginner explores Adobe programs.
As an young horror and blood artist who has been a artist for atleast 2 or 3 years on flipaclip, there art is good. But the way they do it isnt..
The user isnt an artist
I used to follow them I liked their style this is a shame :/
Is it ok to use ai art for color palettes and aesthetic ideas
Everyone using ai 😭
Why can’t people not use ai for once. Like people be actually having good drawing talent then they use ai. Like come on.
Kat I pray u are having an awesome vacation in Korea.
Used a little bit ai - right to jail
traced ai art, believe it or not? Jail. Right away.
this creator whose video you are watching has made up lies, ignored speedpaints etc of celestialetherea and also sent so much hate their way that they got doxxed and threatened. She made the whole thing up for clout and now refuses to delete the video. Katliente has also driven a few pregnant girls to suicide. So pick your side carefully.
@@auauauau-k6o do you have proof of this?
Reminds me of a content creator that's anti drama but only posts drama
I mean, using ai art as a base for tracing sounds smart if you wanna improve. But starting and posting them claiming it’s free handed it’s just wrong. At least say it’s traced, i wouldnt care too much if you said it out loud
No gonna lie, i dont really see an issue with an artist taking an already existing AI image and doing something new with it. I also think is okay to trace over AI images to do something new.
I dunno, it doesnf botter me if the final piece looks different.
I am not saying it demands talent or skill, nor am I saying is amazing. It can look very mediocre.
I just don't see a issue with someone expressing their artistic needs this way.
Main problem is they are not doing anything new lol
It is ok to reference somewhat ai art without tracing over it it’s the same thing as a dtiys same thing as referencing even some real life images like clothing (which is its own art form) is that stealing?? Ai art is art just not by the generator. It’s art that’s mashed together. It’s the same thing as referencing or redrawing any other art except it’s mashed together
Definitely was drawing traditionally.
Cant find em on insta
how do we send artists to you? there's an instagram artist floating around the ffxiv community that is constantly getting accused of using AI, but they keep defending themselves xD i like to have the benefit of the doubt, but the dude's art style changed so much, so often in the course of like several months that IT'S JUST SO SUPICIOUS lmfaoo I think i might have been picking up a lot of habits from your videos
Who's the artist?
I'll bet the starting pieces you called as a good artstyle and having a good art eye are traced.
You can see it the most in the piece at 0:38 - That's literally drawing over a photo/artwork with a round brush, no opacity.
All of their "art" is traced collages, none is real.
7:41 ok i think this is a little too much.
Don't get me wrong, I understand the hatred for AI and the fact that AI Art is pretty much build on stolen art, that's undeniable. But to say this, feels like "If you eat meat, you are contributing to killing an animal.", am I an art stealer if I take as reference a dress I saw on a AI image? Or an art style? Or a pose? Mind you, I am talking about images already done that circulate for example in Pinterest.
While fighting AI is commendable, I don't think that you using something that YOU yourself, didn't contribute into creating, is stealing. Yes, is morally devious to some extent, but you are not stealing from an artist nor are you promoting the companies that steal from artists.
this creator whose video you are watching has made up lies, ignored speedpaints etc of celestialetherea and also sent so much hate their way that they got doxxed and threatened. She made the whole thing up for clout and now refuses to delete the video. Katliente has also driven a few pregnant girls to suicide. So pick your side carefully.
*insert creative comment here*
This one is AI 1 but this one is made by me 1. 😮
Ok I'm going to make a comment because you say things that for me are not true at all, the robot girl piece is clearly not a filter, and probably not traced either, here's why : The mouth is not the same, it's more closed and is not exactly in the same place, the robot pieces are not the same, not the same details, not on the same places, ect.. The hair AS to be drawn by hand because it's translucide no it has to be drawn by hand, the scars aren't even here on the original piece, they are not in the exact same posture either. For the other ones, It's clearly the same exact pictures with addings, I'm not going to say anything on that.
Early finally
yaaay!
I disagree about not being able to use AI as reference and solely reference. I think it can help with character design and there’s nothing wrong with utilizing design with inspiration. Just my opinion though. I get people think it doesn’t “take back” but there is literally almost no way to tell the dozens, if not hundreds of artists that AI references off of. If it’s gonna make a Frankenstein, then I’m gonna kidnap the Frankenstein, model a beautiful mannequin out of it, and kick the Frankenstein to the curb.
this creator whose video you are watching has made up lies, ignored speedpaints etc of celestialetherea and also sent so much hate their way that they got doxxed and threatened. She made the whole thing up for clout and now refuses to delete the video. Katliente has also driven a few pregnant girls to suicide. So pick your side carefully.
You are SO SO SO soft to this one in comparison to others, who do the same! (You roasted them, good!). This "artist" is just tracing as well 😅I bet he*she is tracing the extra elements as too.
Are you gonna respond and apologize for ruining people's careers by spreading false information because you couldn't be bothered to get your facts straight? Also kinda weird that you're responding to comments when you said you're on vacation.
same happened here, this creator whose video you are watching has made up lies, ignored speedpaints etc of celestialetherea and also sent so much hate their way that they got doxxed and threatened. She made the whole thing up for clout and now refuses to delete the video.
What did she do? I know she did something wrong, but I don't know the story and I can't find it anywhere, can you tell me all the story?
I still don’t think u should witch hunt people I used to do it if u can see it shame on them if they are making profit and acting like it truly is they’re own without any editing or any real input and they are also really bad artist underneath it all we all start somewhere but do not boast about how good you are and flaunt like u made tonsa art it’s okay to trace some or draw inspiration here and there but yah it’s good to point out hypocrisies but please take into account for all the good these tools are doing they really are helping and there can be enough art and money to go around for all of us but it’s good u can point out the scum who are trying to use this to turn profit and frame everything as they’re own without being honest or the hypocrits
It’s just the same rhetoric ai bros are trying to get artists to get behind. “No one owns it so you can steal it 🤪” use your brain and go find a real reference. 🤦♀️
is ur channel just random anti ai videos to gain views or u actually bring anything to the table
Not the video I am waiting for
That’s valid? People steal ai drawings all the time because it makes sense. People do it because they feel that ai art is bad and doesn’t have the rights to own it. So real artists steal the ai art to strengthen their ideas. It’s completely good. Just like when people make sample ai character designs and posts them so artists can steal the idea for their own characters.
this creator whose video you are watching has made up lies, ignored speedpaints etc of celestialetherea and also sent so much hate their way that they got doxxed and threatened. She made the whole thing up for clout and now refuses to delete the video. Katliente has also driven a few pregnant girls to suicide. So pick your side carefully.
@@auauauau-k6o I already know tho 💀 I’m not on her side where did you get that dum dum
@@meloo-melosh i’m sorry i was trying to reply to another comment😭😭 my bad
@@auauauau-k6o k… be careful whose side you are on next time
Hi! I think there is nothing wrong if it is something you admit openly, that person did not do it until she was discovered and in some of her works she TRACED DRAWINGS OF OTHER ARTISTS without getting any credits to them, this is a theft! She is a thief, but she has the audacity to put in her bio "repost with credit", very ironic and very inconsistent.
Some people and I called her out for this and those drawings magically disappeared and she never said sorry for this. Some people have photographic evidence of this (of the stolen artworks).
Jesus loves y’all
Bully.
I don't know anything about this streamer but she is telling the truth. Also, that artist has been called out by several users (including me) for being caught stealing other artists' work without giving them any credit. Those drawings magically disappeared when we pointed them out to her. There's proof if you want.