You nailed it Carter! You are wise beyond your years. Caitlin has exposed their victimhood lies and when confronted with the truth, they became even angrier and even more unlikable. It is tough to watch people so tortured by their existence. But those who embrace the new attention and how Caitlin is bringing will be better off for it. Come out of the dark and into the light Caitlin is shining on you.
Carter! Did you see Sides comment today about trying to continue what they did last year, in trying to get the ball to the post? I've noticed Sides doesn't get excited about Caitlin's 3's and was talking with another commenter at another video about this. He said he noticed she seemed unhappy when Caitlin made the 3's in the game. I told him I noticed the same thing in another game. Every time the Fever made a layup, she stood up and applauded. After Caitlin would make a three, no applause, just a look of 'well, it's a score.' I hope Caitlin can hold on to her game, but I'm afraid Sides wants to turn her into a passing and layup and short-shot player. I think Sides' by-the-book old-school post-centric approach is going to remove the excitement from Caitlin's game. I hope I'm wrong, but I'm not the only one seeing this.
@@CarterMomon yes indeed, the fantastic four can execute…. The Laker’s RUN & GUN Style offense And coach, the bench relievers of the starters,Their offense needs to keep player movement to create better looks.. why is this so hard to understand the ballet of the movement of players is key to easy looks…, yes? ☮️❤️🙏🌍🌏🌎🇺🇸❤️☮️ #Fantastic4 #CatchTheFever
The WNBA hate Caitlin Clark because she is not like these insecure, petty and jealous players. Insecure because Caitlin Clark plays an exciting game and competes fairly using her talent. Petty because Caitlin Clark does not want to get involve with their insecurities. Jealous because Caitlin Clark praises the achievement of others and use them as her motivation to do better.
===== In truth, Caitlin should go play overseas. Double her endorsements, the fans would follow her, she would actually be appreciated by a league, and the WNBA players, coaches, and female analysts would get what they want (which is Clark out of their league). Win Win Win Win!!! =====
Where? China? Russia? There’s no overseas league that would pay her enough. She getting big endorsement deals from Nike, Wilson, Gatorade, etc because there’s a huge void in the US for woman basketball star.
In a 2017 interview with The San Diego Union-Tribune, Wiggins revealed more about what led her to retire from basketball. Calling the league's culture "very, very harmful" and "toxic to me", she alleged that she had been bullied on the court throughout her WNBA career for being heterosexual and nationally popular. Wiggins added, "I wanted to play two more seasons of WNBA, but the experience didn't lend itself to my mental state." During the interview, she remarked: Me being heterosexual and straight, and being vocal in my identity as a straight woman was huge. I would say 98 percent of the women in the WNBA are gay women. It was a conformist type of place. There was a whole different set of rules they (the other players) could apply."[16][17] Wiggins' remarks led to a major backlash from many WNBA players and other sports figures, but she largely stood by them. She did clarify her "98 percent" remark, saying: "It was my way to illustrate the isolation that I felt personally. I felt like the 2 percent versus the 98 percent."[18] Candace Wiggins
Agree. The product has not been entertaining. I'd rather see athletic play than physical play. I can't believe how many layups get missed. Other sports adjust the rules to create a more entertaining game (NFL, MLB). WNBA just assumes the audience is wrong and should like whatever they have settled for as the best style of women's basketball that is possible in the universe.
CC is breaking ankles, breaking records, breaking hearts and breaking IDEOLOGIES!!!!!!!!! Indiana keep saying things like, "our fans are amazing and we're blessed and thank God" and things that you never hear from the other players and coaches.
I never watched the WNBA before and I didn’t see the first 10 Fever games. In watching all the rest, I have noticed the players improve working with CC. This is generally accepted. But it may be she’s also made them more pleasant. Since I didn’t see them pre-CC, I can’t be sue. But they are very pleasant, well spoken, and enjoyable to listen to and cheer for them. The fab 4 - CC, AB, Kelsie and Lexie are terrific to watch. I would be grateful for a comment about a comparison with last year.
When the Bully Club came at Clark, they didn't realize that she has people backing her who are not like other fans. This Bully Club has a sub-cultured offshoot of feminism theory (as Carter accurately observes) designed to serve their particular ''brand'' and lifestyles. They've believed that they are a hybrid, where their aggressive feminism & minor sport fame can insulate them... They quickly took over the WNBA, 25 years ago, instilling a brand of bully ball that is barely in the spirit, let alone the sport of basketball. So people quit watching. We could sense there was something wrong, but with no traction in the zeitgeist we left the league to it's cobwebs and dust. (That was our mistake, unaware we were leaving Candace Wiggins, Sophie Cunningham, the rest to the wolves.) This suited the Bully Club. Bullies like to be hidden so they can do their dirty work in private. The WNBA Bully Club was able to reap the small rewards (endorsements) all for themselves, leaving the rest of the players to fight over the scraps. They Institutioned Abuse. Each new rookie class must take the abuse, then take a knee, and is finally accepted when perpetuating the abuse on to the next generation. The public stayed away. No one wants to see women bashed, concused, broken, abused, nor the emotinal fraying that comes with the abuse. (nor the poor ball play where layups are missed while avoiding smackdowns). I believe that there has long been a silent majority of players who wish for a league of normal play and sports(wo)manship. But they have had no one to back them up, until now. Something is different now. Clark has, through enduring the vitriol and abuse they put upon her, exposed them. They have been trying to break her. But they won't. Her roots run too deep, she knows who she is and - the problem for the Bully Club is this. We are the source of those deep roots, we have a deep cultural heritage (womens ball & integration from 1895, girls from after WWI - we've long made fair opportunity our labor) we aren't the usual fans. We are loyal and enduringly supportive of Clark just like she is one of our own daughters or nieces... And we abhor unfairness and even more bullying and abuse. Maybe the WNBA Bully Club thought it normal, or that they could make it normal with the woke double-speak cover, and that they could bully forever and just keep going. We don't abide by bullies. Never have. Not once. We won't now. We don't abide by the abuse of Clark, or of any of these women. Clark is the tip of the spear, but we are behind her. This is the silent majorty now coming into focus. This is the Iowans, but also we are just a part of the staff, connecting with those who recognize - through the old roots - those ties which us all together. People from down the road, and from far away, recognize this familiar call to tradition, loyalty and standing up for what is right. We recognize shared values, Christian values, and a heritage built on shared sweat and blood. We haven't been hearing this call enough in recent years, through all of the noise, sadly the clear Call feels all too uncommon. But that is changing. We are becoming less silent. We are coming to terms with our social connection - even through media. (Voices like Carter, and many other good people help this immensely - keep this in mind as we must support them as they hold up a light for all of us). Clark has been the Canary in the Culture Mine, and while she wanted to just share her beautiful song (sport) she was tasked with more. On her path she has revealed to us how toxic the air has become. For this, well, they are trying to punish her. They've tried to trap her in a cage for this, but the opposite has happened. We have come 5 fold, and the cage is really now held in our hands. Clark senses us, behind the bully club. It is important that we build a voice of clarity, for her to call upon in those moments when her own confidence might wain. It is important that we offer her support, and look for what resolutions might keep her from harm's way. For harm her, or us, they will. They feel they must. For they won't give it up the power. Their little cage power has made them feel big, especially as they trapped each new generation, bindind them with their abuses and egos. They won't give it up, the WNBA. They' won't even share it. They'd burn it down before they would share it. However, that is not up to them. There are more - all of us, including owners, corporate sponsors, leaders, all of whom will listen to us. Especially if we compel them to. It is important that we Call together the best among them (for there are exploiters hidden in every circle linked to this story). They kept Clark off of the Olympic team out of Fear. Fear that the world would see the Olympics as a passing of the torch to Clark. Fear that this would be the end of the Bully Club. So they froze her out - against tradition, against reason. Doesn't matter. The torch has already been passed. It was passed in '23 when the world saw great sport, great skill, and great team work in women's basketball - like they had always wished for. The time of the bullies is passing, if we make it so. While the other rookies are not as strong (yet), they will eventually fall in line with Clark's lead (think of nice players, but not championing characters like Brink, Juju). The new era is coming. Hopefully the old Bully Guard won't fight too hard. If they do, well, as we see, every time they lie, twist, yell, or lash out, they only sink themselves further into the quicksand of their own stink.
I started watching NCAA WB 3 years ago. I FOUND IT VERY ENJOYABLE WITH EXCELLENT PLAYErs. Eventually found CC. I think she is just the lead wave of players that will change the bullies in WNBA. College players are better and will have more support from CC and her young new pros. The bullies saw the writing in the wall and fought tooth and nail to try to keep it from happening.
@@cynthiabiggs7069 those bullies are still trying to hang on, and the best thing that could happen is breaking up the NCAA corruption that allows Monopoly of talent going mostly to South carolina, uconn, and a couple of others. Imagine instead if most of the five star players stayed in their home States and build up their own fan bases and had a chance to build their own Legend and then they could bring those fans to the wnba. At any rate, yes the Clark fans will appreciate both the new and older players who move forward from the bully style
So they think acting like men will somehow get them good attention!! They have been shown the model the majority of the fans want to see and they have decided to crush and push down any and all rookies instead of lifting and mentoring all rookies. I know it is the whole league. You can see the refs don't call fouls rookies never get calls vets can hammer a rookie and their team will applaud. I look around and see a large portion of CC's fans are children and thier family. I don't think this is their version of pro ball. I'm 68 and I don't like MMA ball!!
This is the best take about the whole situation. I consider myself a feminist, but Wnba activism is fallse activism, it's just a deflecting from really basketball.
The number 1 reason Caitlin is not welcomed by the WNBA is the players feel Caitlin gets more attention than she deserves because she IS WHITE. That is it. Both the black and lesbian players feel their accomplishments have been ignored and devalued. They are jealous because she is WHITE. If everything was identical, everything: family, education, general appearance, game, personality, except she was black, Caitlin would note have HALF of this following. I am NOT trying to be mean spirited. It is beyond a sports phenomena....Caitlin is a Cultural Phenomena. And to have half of Caitlin's following, the black girl would have to be a Simone Byles type: very well spoken and educated, and not use any "urban" vernacular. Angel Reese could score 30 pts a game and literally fly from half-court to dunk, and she wouldn't have Caitlin's following. Not saying it's right, wrong, or neither, but the middle-American Caitlin fans are turned off by Reese. They look at her as ghetto and someone they wouldn't let their daughters be friends with. Sounds gross, and not off your generation, but it is true as the sun will rise in the morning. Understanding reality, even if it seems ugly, is important too.
The excitement is the point. First time I heard about Clark it was her hitting a logo 3 and being compared to Steph. Hey if there is a woman playing like Steph, I'm down to watch that. But I've never heard of any other player being introduced as anything other than "she is a good player." If there was a playing coming up that is the female Kyrie or Iverson, I'm down. If by some miracle a player is being compared to Vince Carter, 100% watching her. I've heard A'ja Wilson is good so I decided to watch her a bit last night. Definitely a great player but her highlights were basically standard NBA plays. Some nice blocks, some good turn around jumpers, but nothing made me think "how did she do that!?" And just to say I'm not saying they have to be the female version of a male player, but they need to have a game that separates them from everyone else. It'd actually be even more interesting if they were doing someone unique that no one has seen before.
@@CarterMomonCarter, I stumbled upon your breakdowns here recently & just love your takes. Totally right on & so on point cutting thru all the noise. Very mature thinking & truly helpful perspectives! Angels & Demons do seem exist also & I think you may be onto something here. Yes I also agree CC’s mere existence is a threat to all the Demons’ false (& malicious) narratives… so she must be crushed at all cost as her haters are trying to do. Which is all the more reason for the silent majority to support CC, who literally behaves & acts like an Angel in how graceful she carries herself, always so positive & humble!
Hi Carter. Did you see the latest, about the woke reporter coaxing a response out of Caitlin and a tweet from Dijonai Carrington? Jason Whitlock's video, "Caitlin Clark's Olympic Dream Killed as WNBA Chooses Bigotry Over Business," predicted she would be confronted. In a nutshell, she has to figuratively kiss the ring of all her predecessors and current members of the WNBA. I was starting to enjoy finding out about other players, as the Fever played other teams. Carrington, was guarding Caitlin really well. I actually found her attractive. Here's her tweet leveled right at Caitlin: "Dawg. How one can not be bothered by their name being used to justify racism, bigotry, misogyny, xenophobia, homophobia & the intersectionalities of them all is nuts. We all see the sh*t. We all have a platform. We all have a voice & they all hold weight. Silence is a luxury." They can't just play basketball. They can't let Caitlin just play basketball. The activism is stifling.
the WNBA Bully Club aims to control rookies - Body, mind, and spirit. But they have met something different now. Clark, and the strong and deep rooted shoulders of the people whom she relies upon.
Yes, yes I did. I think the whole Dijonai situation deserves a video. I’m working on one, but I’m taking my time since I believe the topic deserves real thought. But I agree with you, they just won’t let Caitlin play basketball. It’s nasty.
@@CarterMomon Do you ever do Thought Experiments on your topics? I've found such to be invaluable for presentations/debate/cases. I saw Angel Reese's behavior so outlying that I did several: 1. Angel Reese is my daughter - how do I assess, redirect her? 2. Caitlin Clark is my daughter - and Reese continues to infringe upon her, how do I address...? 3. I am a ''neighbor'' I see that AR has negative mentorship... 4. I'm editing chief for The Times, what is the responsible framing for the greater public - in consideration of Reese's well being - in considerations of Clark's (or other ''targets'') well being. 5. From a Christian perspective - what might be happening for AR. She is in my congregation, but refused guidance...? 6. From a psychological perspective what does her behavior indicate...? 7. What might Reese believe her outcomes could be? 8. What are some logical progression results if she continues? 9. What are the social implications of the continued coverage of her misbehavior? These are good faith explorations, which should be our happy duty to carry out. Current editorial view: The struggle comes in witnessing harm. It is one thing to observe someone harming themselves (say, damaging their own reputation as Reese has) and then visiting our effort to redirect them from this, while it is quite another thing to see someone protagonizing harmful actions (in this case, towards CC /other women players). When we witness harm we are then responsible for the neighbor at risk, we are tasked with reprioritizing the application of our values. The more harm that I see visited upon Clark, the more limited I believe the allowance for those who would harm her should be...
Spot on. Thank you for being an independent thinker. You have a very sound, clear, articulate message. You could one day be a great President of this country with articulate, clear speech like that! Have a great day! God Bless You!
The WNBA have not been a good product. I don’t care what nobody say cc and these new generation of talent is changing the game for the better hopefully delete clean the game up and make the game with a new generation excited to watch most see tv
The disparagement of Clark reflects broader societal issues, including misogyny and a lack of understanding of women's sports. Critics have often dismissed her skills, attributing her success to factors like her race or the perceived weakness of her competition, rather than recognizing her talent and hard work. This has led to a narrative that unfairly diminishes her contributions to the sport. While she has undeniably become a face of women's basketball, the reactions to her success reveal deeper societal tensions that continue to influence perceptions of female athletes. Caitlin Clark's popularity has transformed the WNBA landscape, driving economic growth and fan engagement while also creating rivalries and highlighting racial dynamics within the sport. Her influence is reshaping how the league is marketed and perceived, but it also brings challenges that other players must navigate. None of this is Caitlin’s fault. She has enormous talent which is forcing the league to move beyond its present lack of foresight and competence.
Fans can destroy this narrative the wnba players/reporters are throwing out there by bringing up Candice Wiggings going through the same thing in the wnba . Show the pattern how the wnba players lashed out on Wiggins for speaking up while the reporters buried the story which was easy that time with nobody really caring about the wnba at that time. I really believe this story needs to be brought back up in this CC conversation to show this is a pattern when you don't fit the wnba image . if you noticed the media across the board is radio 📻 silent on bringing up the Candice Wiggings situation
That is true my friend - The WNBA is run by a Bully Club, they reap the small rewards all for themselves, then culture the rest to fight over the scraps. THey have Institutional Abuse patterns, where each new rookie class must take the abuse, then take a knee, and is finally accepted when perpetuating the abuse on the next generation. - The public, however aware or not, has sensed this. No one wants to see women bashed, concused, broken, abused, and the emotinal fraying that comes with this. (nor the poor ball play where layups are missed while avoiding smackdowns). I believe that there is a silent majority of players who wish for a league where normal challenge and sports(wo)manship rules. But they have had no one to back them up, until now. Something is different now. Not so much Clark, yet her in part. She has, through the abuse they put on her, exposed them = The problem for the Bully Club is, we are not the usual ''fan'' base. Our roots run much deeper, and our branches of care much longer, especially for our youth. Win or lose, we support them with a loyalty that few can imagine (this comes from our farm buidling Iowa story, and can be seen through our longest tenured leaders and coaches). Clark is the tip of the spear, but we are behind her. We don't abide by the abuse of her, or of any of these women, and - we aim to see this change (and that would include every one of course - despite the silly ''Staley'' like attempts to frame us as racist, we have been fighting for equality since 1865 and integrating against neighboring states bigotry since 1895 (see George Washington Carter). We view all of the young women as daughters, who could be our own. We won't let Clark down, or them, but it does look like a fight... They kept Clark off of the Olympic team our of fear, fear that the world would see this summer as a passing of the torch to Clark. The end of the Bully Club. So they froze her out -against tradition and reason. Doesn't matter. The torch has already been passed. It was passed in '23 when the world saw great sport, great skill, and great team work in women's basketball like they had always wishe for (similar to in soccer 20 years ago). The time of the bullies will pass. The other rookies are not as strong, but they will eventually fall in line with Clark's lead (think of nice, but not championing characters like Brink, Juju). A new era is coming. Hopefully the old Bully Guard won't fight too hard. If they do, well, as we see, every time they lie, yell, lash our, they only sink themselves further in the quicksand of their own stink.
There have been more stories like this for the last 15 years in women sports blogs...that is why I haven't watched since, till now, short lived. I am having a BUD LIGHT.
The Candace Wiggins story may well be really applicable here. Candace was black and heterosexual yet by her accounts isolated, ostracized and ridiculed by the "old guard" CC is not just heterosexual she is white. I would hope it's not the case for most of the woman of the WNBA. But it is very true of many and their treatment of CC and their stereotyping of her fans instead of just calling out trolls for being trolls. These women need to grow the F up.
I agree with you. It’s the product of the WNBA. It’s just not exciting enough. It can’t compete with the NBA. It’s the same with these other football leagues that pop up. XFL USFL and the others. The product is not good enough to compete with the NFL so it will never get the views. Same with the WNBA VS NBA
I think you meant to say “not woke” the thing i like is shes not political at all its all about the game, she doesnt bring in her politics which is how everyone should do it, politics are a private thing and half the country feels one way and half the other way leave that stuff at home. i dont care who they are voting for i want to see them play the dang game lol. I liked megan rapinho for soccer before she started pushing her politics everywhere she appeared and then i stopped liking her was she still skilled yeah but she got me thinking about politics not the game and now im uninterested i didnt need to see and hear her bullshit every time she appeared lol
The number 1 reason Caitlin is not welcomed by the WNBA is the players feel Caitlin gets more attention than she deserves because she IS WHITE. That is it. Both the black and lesbian players feel their accomplishments have been ignored and d3valued.. They are jealous because she is WHITE. If everything was identical, everything: family, education, general appearance, game, personality, except she was black, Caitlin would note have HALF of this following. I am NOT trying to be mean spirited. It is beyond a sports phenomena....Caitlin is a Cultural Phenomena. And to have half of Caitlin's following, the black girl would have to be a Simone Byles type: very well spoken and educated, and not use any "urban" vernacular. Angel Reese could score 30 pts a game and literally fly from half-court to dunk, and she wouldn't have Caitlin's following. Not saying it's right, wrong, or neither, but the middle-American Caitlin fans are turned off by Reese. They look at her as ghetto and someone they wouldn't let their daughters be friends with. Sounds gross, and not off your generation, but it is true as the sun will rise tommorrow. .. You seem like an open-minded, idealistic person. That is admirable. It is important. But, understanding reality, even if it seems ugly, is important too.
Ok, I'm hearing this 'man; theory for the first time. Something tells me that there's even more ridiculous gossip on the way. I only even became aware of Clark a few mere weeks ago, I'm a hockey fan. I've really been kind of consumed by all this around her and the WBNA and it smells like pure jealously, that's it. Women are their own worst enemy. They know it, we know it and they know we know it. They go medieval if a Man tells them that but it's true. Married for 42 years, been around, seen a few things. Women automatically hate younger women, they're competition. I hope Clark gets tired of all the girly crap and comes to Los Angeles and plays for the Lakers, she's already a star and she would have a fearsome squad making sure she gets her shots and buckets. C'mon Young Lady make history!
The number 1 reason Caitlin is not welcomed by the WNBA is the players feel Caitlin gets more attention than she deserves because she IS WHITE. That is it. Both the black and lesbian players feel their accomplishments have been ignored and devalued. They are jealous because she is WHITE. If everything was identical, everything: family, education, general appearance, game, personality, except she was black, Caitlin would note have HALF of this following. I am NOT trying to be mean spirited. It is beyond a sports phenomena....Caitlin is a Cultural Phenomena. And to have half of Caitlin's following, the black girl would have to be a Simone Byles type: very well spoken and educated, and not use any "urban" vernacular. Angel Reese could score 30 pts a game and literally fly from half-court to dunk, and she wouldn't have Caitlin's following. Not saying it's right, wrong, or neither, but the middle-American Caitlin fans are turned off by Reese. They look at her as ghetto and someone they wouldn't let their daughters be friends with. Sounds gross, and not off your generation, but it is true as the sun will rise in the morning. .. Being idealistic is a good thing. It is admirable. It is important. But, understand reality, even if it seems ugly, is important too.
The number 1 reason Caitlin is not welcomed by the WNBA is the players feel Caitlin gets more attention than she deserves because she IS WHITE. That is it. Both the black and lesbian players feel their accomplishments have been ignored and devalued.. They are jealous because she is WHITE. If everything was identical, everything: family, education, general appearance, game, personality, except she was black, Caitlin would note have HALF of this following. I am NOT trying to be mean spirited. It is beyond a sports phenomena....Caitlin is a Cultural Phenomena. And to have half of Caitlin's following, the black girl would have to be a Simone Byles type: very well spoken and educated, and not use any "urban" vernacular. Angel Reese could score 30 pts a game and literally fly from half-court to dunk, and she wouldn't have Caitlin's following. Not saying it's right, wrong, or neither, but the middle-American Caitlin fans are turned off by Reese .They look at her as ghetto and someone they wouldn't let their daughters be friends with. Sounds gross, and not off your generation, but it is true as the sun will rise tommorrow. .. It is important.to be idealistic. But, understanding reality, even if it seems ugly, is important too.
This makes so much sense. But here's the thing. It's not the media that portrays the idea of women not being treated fairly, it's the actual women in the WNBA themselves! So, it's kind of like they are being told what some others have said all along - you're not that good, boring, and no one wants to watch you. This is a big problem for the W because there simply aren't enough Caitlin Clarks in the league right not to keep it exciting. And why the heck are they adding an expansion team next year when the talent disparity among the existing teams is still so huge.
Sounds like a good Ole boy situation in the workplace I got a new job awhile bak wer I came in an started working the old guys came up an said I hav to slow down cause the more I do the more they hav to do they just wanted to chill an do the least amount of work I get it now that I'm older lol
I’m gonna miss you once the season is over. Something I’ve been wondering since the beginning of the season How many coaches who led their team to last place in the league any league stayed onto me the coach again the following year? Would it be that hard to get a coach in, that can get the players to run an effective defensive scheme?
The number 1 reason Caitlin is not welcomed by the WNBA is the players feel Caitlin gets more attention than she deserves because she IS WHITE. That is it. Both the black and lesbian players feel their accomplishments have been ignored and devalued They are jealous because she is WHITE. If everything was identical, everything: family, education, general appearance, game, personality, except she was black, Caitlin would note have HALF of this following. I am NOT trying to be mean spirited. It is beyond a sports phenomena....Caitlin is a Cultural Phenomena. And to have half of Caitlin's following, the black girl would have to be a Simone Byles type: very well spoken and educated, and not use any "urban" vernacular. Angel Reese could score 30 pts a game and literally fly from half-court to dunk, and she wouldn't have Caitlin's following. Not saying it's right, wrong, or neither, but the middle-American Caitlin fans are turned off by Reese .They look at her as ghetto and someone they wouldn't let their daughters be friends with. Sounds gross, and not off your generation, but it is true as the sun will rise tomorrow.. You seem like an open-minded, idealistic person. That is admirable. It is important. But, understanding reality, even if it seems ugly, is important too.
Lol... How to piss of women 2024 edition Tell her to relax and calm down Ask her if she's on her period Have a middle age man(like most sport casters) tell the established stars that they are petty and jealous of the young 22 year old who just arrived on the scene, . Yeah, that'll go over real well! Keep in mind that decades of affirmative action and female empowerment has fostered a hostile attitude. The wnba is also kind of like a private club, jobs/roster spots are relatively scarce. Can't blame some of the women for breaking out the claws to fight for what they consider theirs. Some women will say that's just what they do naturally!
Great video man! I agree with everything you said except for one thing. You claim that you are “black” but Joe Biden said if you didn’t vote for him, “you ain’t black”. I’m really sorry to have to tell you that bad news.
I stand with CC so I'm not watching the Olympics. CC is. I love CC so I will hate for her. CC says I don't care. CC likes the ladies of the WNBA. It was a dream of hers to play in the WNBA. I won't watch any game without CC. I stand with CC. BS.
I’m a woke Christian feminist, and I love Caitlin. I completely and totally agree that watching Caitlin run point and then shoot the logo 3’s and be celebrated for her skill is exciting. But what you are missing is the power of narrative and marketing to grow the game. Personally, I think NIL is one of the additional reasons the women’s game is taking off. Both Caitlin and Angel and Cardosa and Martin (and many others) were able to make real money in college and build their personal brands and celebrity status. It’s why Paige returned to UConn for a final season. People like to watch players they feel they know. Sometimes this can grow over the course of a tournament, like it did for the Women’s World Cup Team in 1999, now known as the 99ers, but until NIL, companies like Nike have been gatekeepers to the $$$. NIL has proven their marketability. Caitlin is exactly what feminism looks like for me. Here’s the thing with the Christian right - as a whole, they really don’t think women should be playing sports. They don’t like seeing women celebrated as they want our talents to be singularly focused on men and raising babies. BUT...FoxNews and company are happy to latch onto Caitlin’s celebrity in order to capitalize on their faux narrative that reverse racism is the actual threat. They take advantage of the media cycles even if there’s some cognitive dissonance when you step back. They’re brilliant at that. That said, I think it’s kind of awesome for their daughters because FoxNews is telling white, conservative parents that it’s okay for their daughters to play sports and ball out, and this is not a typical message for them. Caitlin is amazing. But. Caitlin’s success isn’t just because she’s a generational talent, it’s because the marketing opportunities were there and they helped keep her name in the media which grows the hype which grows the interest. It’s why you are able to make videos and discuss the game.
Its the “weird” comment and the “don’t like a lot of them as people” comment that bugs me. There in lies the casual sexism and homophobia. Yes, the wbna product has not been very entertaining. Yes, CC brand of basketbal is very entertaining with the full court passes and logo bombs. Bult the truth is there is an inherent bias against (queer) women. Don’t blame feminism, it has nothing to do with this. Your basketbal argument is enough
Ahhh, no. The trouble with CC's emergence is the different groups that try to project their beliefs onto her. I mean just what has she said or done to imply she mirrors your conservative lens? Nothing. You know what is real? People don't hate her like you think. There is an obnoxious, insufferable part of her fanbase, not all, that look to use her to spout their political and cultural biases, much like you are doing. You are, in fairness, not as obnoxious but the point still stands. The same is true at the other end of the spectrum while meanwhile, she tries to steer clear of all the noise from both sides. I believe you're going to find that the players don't hate her like you think. They don't embrace some of her new fans who along with their racist and bigoted comments, are always angry, and call the players trash and black lesbians and welfare. Not very Christian I would say. They;re not really basketball or CC fans but pimping her out for a chance to be heard. Is there resentment towards CC by some players? Sure. But that's true of everyone, everywhere, and not an indicator toward any of your points. We are people and just not perfect and can't always behave as we should. That's life. I have a feeling at the All-Star break you are going to see that they don't hate her. Their feelings towards the insufferable crazies of her fanbase won't change. It's funny how conservatives are so against entitlement but sing it loud when it comes to CC. She's entitled to be held to different treatment than other rookies or other players in the league. They should take it easy on her because she fills the seats. Every rookie has to prove themselves on the court. Conservatives complain about DEI, but want to make exceptions for CC to be on the Olympic team. Financial exceptions as if they give a damn about the sport or the W. Leave the girl alone and stop projecting onto her. She just wants to play basketball.
You talk about CC fans bias and then spout your own bias. Your statement on DEI shows your bias against conservatives, whites and straight people. If it wasn't for your bias statements, I would agree with much of your comment...............But your cognizant dissatance is showing.
Just possibly there is some confusion - a bit of projecting about people projecting. How much do you know of Clark's Fan Base? I would suggest that you learn more, real life... Come spend real time in Iowa, at our schools, understanding how deep our history is... There are always crazies, trolls, and opportunists. An observant person can separate the wheat from the chaff. As for Clark, she is typically Iowan - which people today would call conservative. Family values, Christian values - and our own flavor born of our farm building roots of extreme work ethic and reliability between neighbors. We value supporting youth, being humble, a corny sense of humor, and charitable acts. Does this sound familiar? If you have looked at Clark at all - with an observant eye - you will see that this fits Clark to a T. We were also ''progressive'' a century before this was a thing. Women had basketball from the start, 1895 - we understood that if the women could work beside us then they could play sport. We valued effort, not airs like the city folk. We also broke resistance to integration the same year (look at George Washington Carver) and in sports, and stood by our new students when faced with the bigotry of surrounding states. We never changed in our liberty attitudes, but never adoped the liberal ideologies that undermine actual liberty. Clark expected challenge, but not bullying. The Bully Club of the WNBA doesn't like Clark's Iowan character. She won't take a knee or kiss their ring. She has endured derision, insults - actual misogyny - actual racism - and abuse. But they won't break her. What they haven't come to terms with is that Clark has a culture of people behind her with much deeper roots and much more vision than they have ever imagined. Their bully game, institutionalizing abuse onto rookies who can be ''accepted'' once they perpetuate to the next, has been exposed to the greater world now. And no, Clark wasnt't excluded as a matter of tradition, her exclusion broke tradition. On this team alone Wilson and Taurasi were rookie Olympians, and most other teams had one - it is tradition to add the #1 pick for the passing of the torch. But they fear Clark. They fear what is behind her. They feared that on the world stage it would be the world seeing the torch passed to Clark. So they made up fibs to justify her exclusion, embarrassing themselves. It doesn't matter though - the torch has already been passed, it was in '23. This is why you see the Bully Club acting out - but the more they yell, and swear, and blame, and lash out, the faster they sill sink into the quicksand of their own stink. Just know that this will be a good thing. Clark is just the tip of the spear - and what drives her goes beyond her - the majority of women basketball players would like to play inh good sport, free of the threat of abuse, this will be a new day for them and - most importantly - for all of the millions of girls who look up to them, especially all of those who've been inspired by Clark.
She’s not hated over feminism or anything like that. Angel Reese is very feminine and she doesn’t get all the hate. CC hated because she has a whirlwind of impossible hype around her and that rubs people the wrong way. There’s also massive overtones of her being a great white hope amongst a large segment of her fans. There are players that had just as brilliant careers in college as her when they joined the wnba and were excellent players in the WNBA but they didn’t come with an entourage of loud fans singing their praises while talking about the league and all the players in the most disrespectful ways. People are going to take all of that out on her. I’m normally indifferent to Clark, but when I see people say that she’s the next Jordan or that she’s the best player in the entire wnba, it certainly makes me more critical of her and her record as a player because those claims that they make are simply not true.
Angel Reese is an unintelligent, jealous thug who is not as good a player as Clark....period. No one paid attention to the wnba because it just isn't that great. But, NOW, it's getting attention because of the playing of Clark. I'm so glad she's rich now because she could thumb her nose at everyone, but she has too much class
The number 1 reason Caitlin is not welcomed by the WNBA is the players feel Caitlin gets more attention than she deserves because she IS WHITE. That is it. Both the black and lesbian players feel their accomplishments have been ignored and devalued. They are jealous because she is WHITE. If everything was identical, everything: family, education, general appearance, game, personality, except she was black, Caitlin would note have HALF of this following. I am NOT trying to be mean spirited. It is beyond a sports phenomena....Caitlin is a Cultural Phenomena. And to have half of Caitlin's following, the black girl would have to be a Simone Byles type: very well spoken and educated, and not use any "urban" vernacular. Angel Reese could score 30 pts a game and literally fly from half-court to dunk, and she wouldn't have Caitlin's following. Not saying it's right, wrong, or neither, but the middle-American Caitlin fans are turned off by Reese. They look at her as ghetto and someone they wouldn't let their daughters be friends with. Sounds gross, and not off your generation, but it is true as the sun will rise tommorrow. .. You seem like an open-minded, idealistic person. That is admirable. It is important. But, understanding reality, even if it seems ugly, is important too.
For clarity: Reese exhibits distortions of feminity, but not so much feminism. She's not driven by an ideology but rather drifting, and opportunist. I am directly familiar with the broad foundation of Clark's fans, Iowans, and we don't care whatsoever about her race. We judge people on their character - with our values being rooted in our farm building heritage which necessitates hard work and cooperation. Loyalty and diligence are characteristics we value most, which is why we have the longest teured politicians and coaches. We support our youth and athletes, win or lose, yet expect them to be sportsmanlike, team supporting, and charitable. Clark is all of this, and this is why we love her. If people would take time, and not just follow social media buzz, they'd learn that people of all backgrounds come to Iowa and call it ''home''. We were first in wbb, in 1895, and in integration, also in 1895 (see George Washington Carver) against the bigotry of the surrounding states. Our schools were first for girls bb, after WWI. We never told our girls, boys, or any race, religion that they could not do anything - so that is why this is a Field of Dreams and we will see a girl like Clark believing in herself. Come to Iowa and you will be surprised by how warm people are (even if you cheered against our Hawkeyes!)... But here is the real rub... When the Bully Club came at Clark, they didn't realize that she has people backing her who are not like other fans. We are loyal to her like one of our own daughters or nieces... And we abhor unfairness and even more bullying and abuse. Maybe they thought it normal, that they could bully and just keep going, if that is a way they've been living. - But the bullying stops when they meet us. We are too grounded, too long sighted, to aware of sacrifice and human value. Clark respects the women of basketball but - the shoulders that she stands upon are her father and mother's first, then her close community alma mater, and then the greater Iowa culture. This is the silent majorty now coming into focus, and those from afar recognize the tradition of loyalty and standing up for what is right that has become sadly too uncommon. So Clark's confidence will not wain, she has what she has in herself, her faith, and all of us to draw upon. The reason other players didn't build a fanbase is obvious, but missed until pointed out. Nearly all of the high school girls follow the crowd - to the same 5 times that have won most of the NCAA championships. These monopoly teams buzz saw the tourney and, besides homers, the public has no interest in such an inbalance of sport. For the girls, the price they pay for joining a front runner is that no star can really shine when buried among other stars. Also, these front runner fanbases are entitled - expecting a FF every year and having no interest in real competition. This is why the ''great'' wbb state of Connecticut never sold out a Suns game (since the league's early days) until Clark brought her fans. There have been many players hyped as ''the next Jordan": but we never saw any vitriol against Harold Minor, etc. Sure people would be derisive, but it was in good sport. What we are seeing with Clark is shameful. People are saying cruel things, insulting her character - although she is even handed and charitable, insulting her appearance and womanhood - actual misogyny that shouldnt' be tolerated, and even cheering her abuse.
@@destinypirate Wow, that all sounds so wonderful, yet......Iowa is a red state..soooooo, full of all the "isms" and "obias" of conservatives and they voted for Trump. Btw, I do like Clark and hopes she goes elsewhere where she is treated better.
@@amythompson6431 what does that even mean,? I hope you're being facetious but yes we do find growing corners of our society where people can no longer use the language whether being able to draw upon a broad standard vocabulary, the functional use of pronouns, the application of tenses, or the use of suffixes with an identifier. One of the things that we find quite humorous is that Iowans were both conservative and liberal long long before those terms came around - and were quickly bastardized. We were the first with women's basketball in 1895 while at the same time pushing for integration opportunities in our schools (see George Washington carver, Fred Kinney)against the bigotry that still had a hold in the surrounding states. We considered this Liberty though not, liberalism. At the same time we were able to create the best farms in the world, build our own schools and self-educate, maintain our community structure (which some people today would call conservative) and we simply call all of this our freedom, ie. responsibility. The world looks truly different when the majority of communities function on a rhythm of the seasons and the weather - and the efforts required to create more food than anywhere... All between the life-threatening embrace of winters that are so severe that we have hurricane level winds carrying temperatures that can end of life in minutes... Through it all we understand that our survival is dependent upon how good we are as neighbors, how good we are his parents, and how good we are at supporting our young people including our athletes - whether born here or brave enough to come and play through all of our seasons.
That's what happens when the team freezers her out, zero good screens, maybe 2 passes per quarter. Even Kobe coudn't score if the ball wasn't delivered.
The hate is not real it is a narrative that is pushed by her new racist fans she gained because of the angel reese hand wave. Reese got drug for that hand wave but CC was praised for it when she did it. That created racial tension and her popularity blew up from there. Those new racist fans she brought talk down to the whole wnba but target black players the most and disrespect them. They say CC is the face of the wnba, a ja who? Make fun of reeses complexion and eye lashes, say CC is classy and articulate. CC is not hated its her fans that are hated. Also there are other more exciting players then CC. Arike is more exciting just to start the list.
With the amount of Love and Positivity you are espousing, who could argue that your type of fandom is the righteous one. Or, you could reserve judgment and take the time to actually know Clark's fan base - which would mean spending real time in Iowa - and not just buzzing with the social media hive mind. (BTW, Clark had MILLIONS of fans before Reese, after -and more. We don't think about Reese. If you are reacting to trolls, then you will get caught under the bridge).
@@destinypirate if you associate yourself with the "racist" fans I don't know what to say but if you're not racist then I'm not talking about you. She does have a racist group of new fans and there are not just from Iowa but it's wierd that u think all her fans are from Iowa. Anyways I know she had fans before. I'm talking about when she exploded and reach people outside the female ncaa circle. And as I side note Illinois (I know it's not Iowa but it's their neighbor) had the most sundown towns. Just saying it's not far fetch what I'm saying and I'm not judging anybody and telling you what conversations I'm having with these people and I still don't know why you focused on just Iowa. Anyways you shouldn't defend racist people unless you're one of them but I'm assuming you are saying not so idk what actually bothered you?
@@KARMA-ok4yk I'm going to assume positively that you'll agree with placing importance on being careful in conversation and leaving the assumptions and projections aside. Also it doesn't help with the judgmental language, it's not for you to say what is weird or not, in fairness, until you have taken some time directly with that of which you speak. But we all do it at times and in good faith I am rather going to assume you took mental shortcuts for what you believe are good reasons. I would caution any of us not to take mental shortcuts though when we have charged topics.. To try and parse this down just a bit, I'm focused on Iowans because Iowans are the heart of this story, and the best way to know us is to spend time together, which we are always more than willing to do. Sadly, the national narrative has fallen to a bunch of sideways junk instead of a focus on the foundational culture from which a girl could grow to believe she could do anything from, with the support of the most loyal people you could find. Iowans are far and away the heart of this story. Clark grew from and with us, with clear core values, and of course Iowans are the core fans of Caitlin Clark, this would include the Iowan to reside in Iowa and those who are dispersed far and wide. The Iowan is unlike any other fandom in terms of the level of supporting and offering enduring loyalty and, most importantly, the ethical standards which are expected of the athletes, coaches, and fans. We have the longest tenured leaders and coaches always, because we choose them carefully as they uphold the standards of our core values. Caitlin Clark's hard-working, humble, corny humored, community and charity focused character is precisely Iowan. Clark as a phenomena was buoyed by Iowans all the way, who were the first ones to of course sell out all of the arenas not only in Iowa but everywhere that she went, they created the first 2 to 3 million households that would be watching and of course she deserves all of the credit for her unique and entertaining skill which then alighted into the mainstream market. None of this is new as Iowans have always supported their athletes this way, we expect a high standards, but offer the highest standard of loyalty and return. Athletes aren't supported when only when they win...we support the players humanity also, long after play is over. This is why those who come from elsewhere to Iowa end up calling Iowa home, even if they travel afar again, even if decades later. The same level of ethical standards is demanded within the fandom. Do jerks pop up? Absolutely. But they are in the minority of dissipated minorities. If you were to go to games, say it football stadiums for the arena for basketball or wrestling, if fans crossed the line into poor sportsmanship they will get pulled back into line by the Hawkeye fans themselves. Simply put the perspective isn't lost on the value of ethics and sharing even if things go south in a game. It's a game after all. That's why you saw absolutely no change in fan loyalty between when the Hawkeye women were winning or losing, or even now whether Caitlin and the Fever are winning and losing. We are supporters of the person most of all. Beyond this, Iowa certainly does not consider itself Illinois or Missouri or kansas, Iowa was at the forefront in the Midwest for women's opportunity and all races having an opportunity. This began formally in 1895 at our universities, you can look up George Washington Carver or Fred Kenny among others.... Who came to Iowa to escape the bigotry of surrounding states and when traveling with the team and facing the bigotry again the entire team would stand behind them. We take more pride in treating people well then we do in national championships. The difference is Islands don't wear this on their sleeve and would rarely talk about it, it's just the standard, the language of aggressive progressives and liberals who weaponize these ideas is not our language. Of course we were very disappointed with two significant developments that ran countercurrent to the wonderful narrative of Caitlin Clark and the Hawkeyes. First we had the sore losers like Don Staley who fell entitled to win and couldn't accept losing to the Hawkeyes and who then tried to frame coach blutter as racist and continued for years with sideways remarks all the way to the Olympic committee thing. Staley most of all precipitated among South Carolina players which led over to LSU and other players causing them to act towards Clark in the same bigoted ways that Tiger Woods faced 30 years ago. Of course this continues to this very day in the WNBA and it's a real shame. We absolutely push back against this, not only for Clark sake but for the sake of any woman who shouldn't be treated with derision, racism, or misogyny. Everyone should agree on that. one thing that those bigoted people didn't expect was the 42 of the Iowans because we simply don't back down for bullies. We never have. As I referred back to when we started integrating our teams we would not back down when racism went against these new players, and just the same we won't on behalf of clark, it doesn't matter to us whether the players are black or white or others, we expect them to be treated fairly and ethically. The other major development is the one that you are alluding to, we're also shocked when we saw race beaters and hater trolls jump into the Caitlin Clark narrative to get their jollies. These are absolutely not Hawkeye fans, I can tell you that point blank because if they tried anything like that anywhere but behind a screen they would be stopped immediately, by us. A simple example of this relates to something that I would invite you to that's quite easy, a nice podcast called Hawkeye of the storm, you could look up the post-game talks from the last season and they feature former player Kachine Alexander... In our talks we would have anywhere from several hundred to a couple thousand people and once in a while someone would jump in with some bigoted comments, either toward Caitlin Clark or toward kachin or whomever, and we would just simply and firmly shut them down. Nobody like that is welcome in the Hawkeye fandom. But as you know they will try and there are plenty who will come to I said sheep, yet we are quick to recognize the wolf underneath. We also come to the defense of Angel Reese or anyone else. I see that it's often here that people lose the thread is they take no nuance and noticing the difference between criticism and bigotry. For example when Reese exhibited her poor sportsmanship at the national title game we certainly criticized that, but whenever someone would try to hijack that conversation into something racist or mean we would shut them down immediately. we wish the best for Angel Reese and even more would rather see her turn a corner toward a happier way and if she did and befriended Caitlin clark, instead for example supporting her teammate and being violent toward clark, they could do something really special, a real woman's magic and bird type of moment that would be beneficial for them personally, diffusing The heirs of animosity that all of this has fueled in the league, they would also benefit professionally is the endorsements they could do together would be incredible, and they would benefit the culture as a whole. Hopefully that adds a little bit of clarity and insight. And just so you know I wish you the best and whatever your team is I wish them the best to you and would be happy to invite you to one of our stadiums or arenas and we could enjoy sharing against each other, or together, either way.
@@destinypirate it seems like you're talking about her original true fans that not the same ones I'm talking about. The CC fans actually have 2 groups now and I said I have talked to these people. This is not some assumption or judgment this is what they post. There's a certain group that is not there to support CC for the right reasons and CC spoke against this recently from.her own mouth.
@@KARMA-ok4yk that's pretty much it, but her true fans are her only true fans. I was surprised to learn a new term a few years ago and that term is "hate watching" - for myself and generally for people I know it's always been natural to simply turn off a show or don't see a film that's not my cup of tea. Of course we end up seeing something we don't like that much at times and it's reasonable to offer some criticism.... But it never occurred to me to actually seek out things that I don't like and then to spend time deriding and commenting and arguing and so forth about these shoes and films. If you like Madonna and I like Michael Jackson and neither the opposite, that's fine, we have two radios. Those people who jumped into the Clerk narrative to espouse some sort of mean-spiritedness and hate strike me as the same, people caught in a pattern of emoting negativity on others. We just have to be a little bit more discerning for the distinction between true fans and people who are up to something else, and I think we can then not confuse the matter. For example, from the context of our dialogue I can reasonably deduct that you are not in Iowan. Besides me stating my origin, you could as likely deduct that I'm not a South Carolinian. These are not really assumptions, as we do have some evidence to the matter, they're reasonable deductions, and if mistaken easily corrected. Maybe your grandparents are Iowan and you spent summers in iowa, or maybe you went to the university, and then you could be iowan through another path. What would not be deduction is if I then projected that you disliked Caitlin Clark or that you were racist against Caitlin Clark. I have no evidence to this and making such an assumption would not only be illogical it would be unethical. We should always give one another the benefit of a doubt, or take the position of viewing others as innocent until proven guilty per se. To further contextualize I would also reason that there should be no bias held against Caitlin Clark as she has done no harm to anyone and rather benefited many. Given these two perspectives, if I did encounter someone who was exhibiting bias against Caitlin Clark I would not assume that this person did so because they were a fan of another player, but rather because this was their own issue, their own toxicity as it were.
while you have a good point that one of the reasons but you wrong bc that the reason she get hate now ,it simply her fans being disrespectful toward other woman in the sports,that includes her own teammates,people keep saying they hating on her but i don’t think that the case for all of them bc a lot of them has praise her but y’all want these want to worship her which indirectly disrespect caitlin bc she herself have said she want to uplift woman sport ,she hate bc people use her name to be racist toward black woman,which in return ppl be ignorant back which shouldn’t be the case ,catlin have the right earn her flowers just like she did in college she gone ight ,good video but be honest do more research it seem like your pandering toward what her racist fans say while yes i started watching woman bb bc of her most don’t even speak on bb skils they only speak on her race
I havent seen her fans disrespecting other teamates apart from saying they should back her up and stuff which they should all do because… well… thats what a frickin team is lol but the only one i see getting trashed is Christie Sides and to be honest she deserves it, they got the first round pick 2 years in a row and are doing trash again, the hate shes getting has been well earned.
That is are a lot of accusations. Do you have reciepts? Are you SURE that you aren't reacting to trolls who try to drag people under their bridges? I would suggest coming to Iowa. We are open minded to everyone, will greet with a warm handshake and a smile, and share about any sport with good sportsmanship. - However, there is no more enduring of a people nor any more supporting of our youth. If people continue to deride, insult, show true misogyny, show actual racism, and abuse Caitlin Clark, they will disover a people which they hadn't reckoned with. We will NEVER desert each other, nor one of our kids, nor even others in need. This runs deep in our blood and we have been fighting for fairness since we first founded our farms. Fairness means the opportunity to work hard and make ones own way, with the support of neighbors. That is all the Clark has asked for, and deserves, and will be be there for her - in good sport, or with strong shoulders for her to stand upon.
Her game is exciting to watch!
You nailed it Carter! You are wise beyond your years. Caitlin has exposed their victimhood lies and when confronted with the truth, they became even angrier and even more unlikable. It is tough to watch people so tortured by their existence. But those who embrace the new attention and how Caitlin is bringing will be better off for it. Come out of the dark and into the light Caitlin is shining on you.
Carter! Did you see Sides comment today about trying to continue what they did last year, in trying to get the ball to the post? I've noticed Sides doesn't get excited about Caitlin's 3's and was talking with another commenter at another video about this. He said he noticed she seemed unhappy when Caitlin made the 3's in the game. I told him I noticed the same thing in another game. Every time the Fever made a layup, she stood up and applauded. After Caitlin would make a three, no applause, just a look of 'well, it's a score.' I hope Caitlin can hold on to her game, but I'm afraid Sides wants to turn her into a passing and layup and short-shot player. I think Sides' by-the-book old-school post-centric approach is going to remove the excitement from Caitlin's game. I hope I'm wrong, but I'm not the only one seeing this.
You are definitely not wrong, and I think anyone with eyes that look to see will agree.
@@CarterMomon yes indeed, the fantastic four can execute….
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Style offense And coach, the bench relievers of the starters,Their offense needs to keep player movement to create better looks.. why is this so hard to understand the ballet of the movement of players is key to easy looks…, yes?
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Preach it Carter.....you are correct. There is good and evil.
Caitlin Clark for those who Love her she plays tonight at 7:00 against Atlanta Dream...
7pm EST.
CC goes off tonight. Vote CC for Westminister Dog Kennel all star game.
The WNBA hate Caitlin Clark because she is not like these insecure, petty and jealous players. Insecure because Caitlin Clark plays an exciting game and competes fairly using her talent. Petty because Caitlin Clark does not want to get involve with their insecurities. Jealous because Caitlin Clark praises the achievement of others and use them as her motivation to do better.
I see no lies 💯
100% Some may not want to hear the truth. Several former straight players have spoke about the abuse they received from Black and Queer players.
===== In truth, Caitlin should go play overseas. Double her endorsements, the fans would follow her, she would actually be appreciated by a league, and the WNBA players, coaches, and female analysts would get what they want (which is Clark out of their league). Win Win Win Win!!! =====
And CC would then forfeit her $28 million from Nike….
@@bdeana2961 Depending on the terms of the deal . . . She could also make a strong case that she could expand the market going overseas.
Where? China? Russia? There’s no overseas league that would pay her enough. She getting big endorsement deals from Nike, Wilson, Gatorade, etc because there’s a huge void in the US for woman basketball star.
CC should stay in WNBA.... clean out the rats. CC should not have to leave her homeland, the trash in the WNBA need to leave.
@@bdeana2961what? They don't sell or want to sell Nike in the EU?
In a 2017 interview with The San Diego Union-Tribune, Wiggins revealed more about what led her to retire from basketball. Calling the league's culture "very, very harmful" and "toxic to me", she alleged that she had been bullied on the court throughout her WNBA career for being heterosexual and nationally popular. Wiggins added, "I wanted to play two more seasons of WNBA, but the experience didn't lend itself to my mental state." During the interview, she remarked:
Me being heterosexual and straight, and being vocal in my identity as a straight woman was huge. I would say 98 percent of the women in the WNBA are gay women. It was a conformist type of place. There was a whole different set of rules they (the other players) could apply."[16][17]
Wiggins' remarks led to a major backlash from many WNBA players and other sports figures, but she largely stood by them. She did clarify her "98 percent" remark, saying: "It was my way to illustrate the isolation that I felt personally. I felt like the 2 percent versus the 98 percent."[18]
Candace Wiggins
Agree. The product has not been entertaining. I'd rather see athletic play than physical play. I can't believe how many layups get missed. Other sports adjust the rules to create a more entertaining game (NFL, MLB). WNBA just assumes the audience is wrong and should like whatever they have settled for as the best style of women's basketball that is possible in the universe.
CC is female artistry on the court.
CC is breaking ankles, breaking records, breaking hearts and breaking IDEOLOGIES!!!!!!!!!
Indiana keep saying things like, "our fans are amazing and we're blessed and thank God" and things that you never hear from the other players and coaches.
I never watched the WNBA before and I didn’t see the first 10 Fever games. In watching all the rest, I have noticed the players improve working with CC. This is generally accepted. But it may be she’s also made them more pleasant. Since I didn’t see them pre-CC, I can’t be sue. But they are very pleasant, well spoken, and enjoyable to listen to and cheer for them. The fab 4 - CC, AB, Kelsie and Lexie are terrific to watch. I would be grateful for a comment about a comparison with last year.
You are a good man that is speaking the truth.
Thank you 💯
it's racism pure and simple (Race and Gender hate)
Yup, clarks fans are just hyping up the racism.
When the Bully Club came at Clark, they didn't realize that she has people backing her who are not like other fans. This Bully Club has a sub-cultured offshoot of feminism theory (as Carter accurately observes) designed to serve their particular ''brand'' and lifestyles. They've believed that they are a hybrid, where their aggressive feminism & minor sport fame can insulate them... They quickly took over the WNBA, 25 years ago, instilling a brand of bully ball that is barely in the spirit, let alone the sport of basketball. So people quit watching. We could sense there was something wrong, but with no traction in the zeitgeist we left the league to it's cobwebs and dust. (That was our mistake, unaware we were leaving Candace Wiggins, Sophie Cunningham, the rest to the wolves.)
This suited the Bully Club. Bullies like to be hidden so they can do their dirty work in private. The WNBA Bully Club was able to reap the small rewards (endorsements) all for themselves, leaving the rest of the players to fight over the scraps. They Institutioned Abuse. Each new rookie class must take the abuse, then take a knee, and is finally accepted when perpetuating the abuse on to the next generation. The public stayed away. No one wants to see women bashed, concused, broken, abused, nor the emotinal fraying that comes with the abuse. (nor the poor ball play where layups are missed while avoiding smackdowns).
I believe that there has long been a silent majority of players who wish for a league of normal play and sports(wo)manship. But they have had no one to back them up, until now.
Something is different now. Clark has, through enduring the vitriol and abuse they put upon her, exposed them. They have been trying to break her. But they won't. Her roots run too deep, she knows who she is and - the problem for the Bully Club is this. We are the source of those deep roots, we have a deep cultural heritage (womens ball & integration from 1895, girls from after WWI - we've long made fair opportunity our labor) we aren't the usual fans. We are loyal and enduringly supportive of Clark just like she is one of our own daughters or nieces... And we abhor unfairness and even more bullying and abuse.
Maybe the WNBA Bully Club thought it normal, or that they could make it normal with the woke double-speak cover, and that they could bully forever and just keep going. We don't abide by bullies. Never have. Not once. We won't now. We don't abide by the abuse of Clark, or of any of these women. Clark is the tip of the spear, but we are behind her. This is the silent majorty now coming into focus. This is the Iowans, but also we are just a part of the staff, connecting with those who recognize - through the old roots - those ties which us all together. People from down the road, and from far away, recognize this familiar call to tradition, loyalty and standing up for what is right. We recognize shared values, Christian values, and a heritage built on shared sweat and blood. We haven't been hearing this call enough in recent years, through all of the noise, sadly the clear Call feels all too uncommon. But that is changing. We are becoming less silent. We are coming to terms with our social connection - even through media. (Voices like Carter, and many other good people help this immensely - keep this in mind as we must support them as they hold up a light for all of us).
Clark has been the Canary in the Culture Mine, and while she wanted to just share her beautiful song (sport) she was tasked with more. On her path she has revealed to us how toxic the air has become. For this, well, they are trying to punish her. They've tried to trap her in a cage for this, but the opposite has happened. We have come 5 fold, and the cage is really now held in our hands. Clark senses us, behind the bully club. It is important that we build a voice of clarity, for her to call upon in those moments when her own confidence might wain. It is important that we offer her support, and look for what resolutions might keep her from harm's way. For harm her, or us, they will. They feel they must. For they won't give it up the power. Their little cage power has made them feel big, especially as they trapped each new generation, bindind them with their abuses and egos. They won't give it up, the WNBA. They' won't even share it. They'd burn it down before they would share it. However, that is not up to them. There are more - all of us, including owners, corporate sponsors, leaders, all of whom will listen to us. Especially if we compel them to. It is important that we Call together the best among them (for there are exploiters hidden in every circle linked to this story).
They kept Clark off of the Olympic team out of Fear. Fear that the world would see the Olympics as a passing of the torch to Clark. Fear that this would be the end of the Bully Club. So they froze her out - against tradition, against reason. Doesn't matter. The torch has already been passed. It was passed in '23 when the world saw great sport, great skill, and great team work in women's basketball - like they had always wished for. The time of the bullies is passing, if we make it so. While the other rookies are not as strong (yet), they will eventually fall in line with Clark's lead (think of nice players, but not championing characters like Brink, Juju). The new era is coming.
Hopefully the old Bully Guard won't fight too hard. If they do, well, as we see, every time they lie, twist, yell, or lash out, they only sink themselves further into the quicksand of their own stink.
Bully Ball is a good term for it, I liked the first half break down and the passion behind the 2nd half 🧡
I started watching NCAA WB 3 years ago. I FOUND IT VERY ENJOYABLE WITH EXCELLENT PLAYErs. Eventually found CC. I think she is just the lead wave of players that will change the bullies in WNBA. College players are better and will have more support from CC and her young new pros. The bullies saw the writing in the wall and fought tooth and nail to try to keep it from happening.
@@cynthiabiggs7069 those bullies are still trying to hang on, and the best thing that could happen is breaking up the NCAA corruption that allows Monopoly of talent going mostly to South carolina, uconn, and a couple of others. Imagine instead if most of the five star players stayed in their home States and build up their own fan bases and had a chance to build their own Legend and then they could bring those fans to the wnba. At any rate, yes the Clark fans will appreciate both the new and older players who move forward from the bully style
Carter can you share more about your background?
How old are you? Did you play in high school and college? Are you a coach?
Yeah very likable and professional. She went to Dowling Catholic HS
So they think acting like men will somehow get them good attention!! They have been shown the model the majority of the fans want to see and they have decided to crush and push down any and all rookies instead of lifting and mentoring all rookies. I know it is the whole league. You can see the refs don't call fouls rookies never get calls vets can hammer a rookie and their team will applaud. I look around and see a large portion of CC's fans are children and thier family. I don't think this is their version of pro ball. I'm 68 and I don't like MMA ball!!
The W never tried to solve their viewership problem; they just demanded respect and higher salaries.
This is the best take about the whole situation. I consider myself a feminist, but Wnba activism is fallse activism, it's just a deflecting from really basketball.
The number 1 reason Caitlin is not welcomed by the WNBA is the players feel Caitlin gets more attention than she deserves because she IS WHITE. That is it. Both the black and lesbian players feel their accomplishments have been ignored and devalued. They are jealous because she is WHITE. If everything was identical, everything: family, education, general appearance, game, personality, except she was black, Caitlin would note have HALF of this following. I am NOT trying to be mean spirited. It is beyond a sports phenomena....Caitlin is a Cultural Phenomena. And to have half of Caitlin's following, the black girl would have to be a Simone Byles type: very well spoken and educated, and not use any "urban" vernacular. Angel Reese could score 30 pts a game and literally fly from half-court to dunk, and she wouldn't have Caitlin's following. Not saying it's right, wrong, or neither, but the middle-American Caitlin fans are turned off by Reese. They look at her as ghetto and someone they wouldn't let their daughters be friends with. Sounds gross, and not off your generation, but it is true as the sun will rise in the morning. Understanding reality, even if it seems ugly, is important too.
I’m glad you said this 💯 it definitely IS false activism.
Same here
3 shooters aren't throwing elbows in the hood
The excitement is the point. First time I heard about Clark it was her hitting a logo 3 and being compared to Steph. Hey if there is a woman playing like Steph, I'm down to watch that. But I've never heard of any other player being introduced as anything other than "she is a good player." If there was a playing coming up that is the female Kyrie or Iverson, I'm down. If by some miracle a player is being compared to Vince Carter, 100% watching her. I've heard A'ja Wilson is good so I decided to watch her a bit last night. Definitely a great player but her highlights were basically standard NBA plays. Some nice blocks, some good turn around jumpers, but nothing made me think "how did she do that!?"
And just to say I'm not saying they have to be the female version of a male player, but they need to have a game that separates them from everyone else. It'd actually be even more interesting if they were doing someone unique that no one has seen before.
It's called racism and jealousy!!!!!
👍😎👍 Spot on, young man. Subscribed.
I’m glad you liked the video! 💯💯
SAME!
@@CarterMomonCarter, I stumbled upon your breakdowns here recently & just love your takes. Totally right on & so on point cutting thru all the noise. Very mature thinking & truly helpful perspectives! Angels & Demons do seem exist also & I think you may be onto something here.
Yes I also agree CC’s mere existence is a threat to all the Demons’ false (& malicious) narratives… so she must be crushed at all cost as her haters are trying to do. Which is all the more reason for the silent majority to support CC, who literally behaves & acts like an Angel in how graceful she carries herself, always so positive & humble!
Wow this is some heavy conversation, truth be tolded.
Hi Carter. Did you see the latest, about the woke reporter coaxing a response out of Caitlin and a tweet from Dijonai Carrington? Jason Whitlock's video, "Caitlin Clark's Olympic Dream Killed as WNBA Chooses Bigotry Over Business," predicted she would be confronted. In a nutshell, she has to figuratively kiss the ring of all her predecessors and current members of the WNBA. I was starting to enjoy finding out about other players, as the Fever played other teams. Carrington, was guarding Caitlin really well. I actually found her attractive. Here's her tweet leveled right at Caitlin: "Dawg. How one can not be bothered by their name being used to justify racism, bigotry, misogyny, xenophobia, homophobia & the intersectionalities of them all is nuts. We all see the sh*t. We all have a platform. We all have a voice & they all hold weight. Silence is a luxury." They can't just play basketball. They can't let Caitlin just play basketball. The activism is stifling.
the WNBA Bully Club aims to control rookies - Body, mind, and spirit. But they have met something different now. Clark, and the strong and deep rooted shoulders of the people whom she relies upon.
@@destinypirate :)
Yes, yes I did. I think the whole Dijonai situation deserves a video. I’m working on one, but I’m taking my time since I believe the topic deserves real thought. But I agree with you, they just won’t let Caitlin play basketball. It’s nasty.
@@CarterMomon Do you ever do Thought Experiments on your topics? I've found such to be invaluable for presentations/debate/cases. I saw Angel Reese's behavior so outlying that I did several:
1. Angel Reese is my daughter - how do I assess, redirect her?
2. Caitlin Clark is my daughter - and Reese continues to infringe upon her, how do I address...?
3. I am a ''neighbor'' I see that AR has negative mentorship...
4. I'm editing chief for The Times, what is the responsible framing for the greater public - in consideration of Reese's well being - in considerations of Clark's (or other ''targets'') well being.
5. From a Christian perspective - what might be happening for AR. She is in my congregation, but refused guidance...?
6. From a psychological perspective what does her behavior indicate...?
7. What might Reese believe her outcomes could be?
8. What are some logical progression results if she continues?
9. What are the social implications of the continued coverage of her misbehavior?
These are good faith explorations, which should be our happy duty to carry out.
Current editorial view: The struggle comes in witnessing harm. It is one thing to observe someone harming themselves (say, damaging their own reputation as Reese has) and then visiting our effort to redirect them from this, while it is quite another thing to see someone protagonizing harmful actions (in this case, towards CC /other women players). When we witness harm we are then responsible for the neighbor at risk, we are tasked with reprioritizing the application of our values. The more harm that I see visited upon Clark, the more limited I believe the allowance for those who would harm her should be...
Spot on. Thank you for being an independent thinker. You have a very sound, clear, articulate message. You could one day be a great President of this country with articulate, clear speech like that! Have a great day! God Bless You!
im here to see CC... if the others grow on me then thats a bonus...
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The WNBA have not been a good product. I don’t care what nobody say cc and these new generation of talent is changing the game for the better hopefully delete clean the game up and make the game with a new generation excited to watch most see tv
The disparagement of Clark reflects broader societal issues, including misogyny and a lack of understanding of women's sports. Critics have often dismissed her skills, attributing her success to factors like her race or the perceived weakness of her competition, rather than recognizing her talent and hard work. This has led to a narrative that unfairly diminishes her contributions to the sport. While she has undeniably become a face of women's basketball, the reactions to her success reveal deeper societal tensions that continue to influence perceptions of female athletes. Caitlin Clark's popularity has transformed the WNBA landscape, driving economic growth and fan engagement while also creating rivalries and highlighting racial dynamics within the sport. Her influence is reshaping how the league is marketed and perceived, but it also brings challenges that other players must navigate. None of this is Caitlin’s fault. She has enormous talent which is forcing the league to move beyond its present lack of foresight and competence.
Fans can destroy this narrative the wnba players/reporters are throwing out there by bringing up Candice Wiggings going through the same thing in the wnba . Show the pattern how the wnba players lashed out on Wiggins for speaking up while the reporters buried the story which was easy that time with nobody really caring about the wnba at that time. I really believe this story needs to be brought back up in this CC conversation to show this is a pattern when you don't fit the wnba image . if you noticed the media across the board is radio 📻 silent on bringing up the Candice Wiggings situation
That is true my friend - The WNBA is run by a Bully Club, they reap the small rewards all for themselves, then culture the rest to fight over the scraps. THey have Institutional Abuse patterns, where each new rookie class must take the abuse, then take a knee, and is finally accepted when perpetuating the abuse on the next generation. - The public, however aware or not, has sensed this. No one wants to see women bashed, concused, broken, abused, and the emotinal fraying that comes with this. (nor the poor ball play where layups are missed while avoiding smackdowns).
I believe that there is a silent majority of players who wish for a league where normal challenge and sports(wo)manship rules. But they have had no one to back them up, until now.
Something is different now. Not so much Clark, yet her in part. She has, through the abuse they put on her, exposed them = The problem for the Bully Club is, we are not the usual ''fan'' base. Our roots run much deeper, and our branches of care much longer, especially for our youth. Win or lose, we support them with a loyalty that few can imagine (this comes from our farm buidling Iowa story, and can be seen through our longest tenured leaders and coaches). Clark is the tip of the spear, but we are behind her. We don't abide by the abuse of her, or of any of these women, and - we aim to see this change (and that would include every one of course - despite the silly ''Staley'' like attempts to frame us as racist, we have been fighting for equality since 1865 and integrating against neighboring states bigotry since 1895 (see George Washington Carter). We view all of the young women as daughters, who could be our own. We won't let Clark down, or them, but it does look like a fight...
They kept Clark off of the Olympic team our of fear, fear that the world would see this summer as a passing of the torch to Clark. The end of the Bully Club. So they froze her out -against tradition and reason. Doesn't matter. The torch has already been passed. It was passed in '23 when the world saw great sport, great skill, and great team work in women's basketball like they had always wishe for (similar to in soccer 20 years ago). The time of the bullies will pass. The other rookies are not as strong, but they will eventually fall in line with Clark's lead (think of nice, but not championing characters like Brink, Juju). A new era is coming. Hopefully the old Bully Guard won't fight too hard. If they do, well, as we see, every time they lie, yell, lash our, they only sink themselves further in the quicksand of their own stink.
There have been more stories like this for the last 15 years in women sports blogs...that is why I haven't watched since, till now, short lived. I am having a BUD LIGHT.
@@theorganicveilradio6623 What stories? Did Staley give you a Bud Light?
The Candace Wiggins story may well be really applicable here. Candace was black and heterosexual yet by her accounts isolated, ostracized and ridiculed by the "old guard" CC is not just heterosexual she is white. I would hope it's not the case for most of the woman of the WNBA. But it is very true of many and their treatment of CC and their stereotyping of her fans instead of just calling out trolls for being trolls. These women need to grow the F up.
I agree with you. It’s the product of the WNBA. It’s just not exciting enough. It can’t compete with the NBA. It’s the same with these other football leagues that pop up. XFL USFL and the others. The product is not good enough to compete with the NFL so it will never get the views. Same with the WNBA VS NBA
CC only has something good to say, even Chennedy
Thanks for speaking with much clarity; I don't have to replay any portion to be able to understand your points!!! Thanks again!
I think you are right. My take is she's now woke, 2 She got so many endorsements, 3 They are jealous.
I think you meant to say “not woke” the thing i like is shes not political at all its all about the game, she doesnt bring in her politics which is how everyone should do it, politics are a private thing and half the country feels one way and half the other way leave that stuff at home. i dont care who they are voting for i want to see them play the dang game lol. I liked megan rapinho for soccer before she started pushing her politics everywhere she appeared and then i stopped liking her was she still skilled yeah but she got me thinking about politics not the game and now im uninterested i didnt need to see and hear her bullshit every time she appeared lol
The number 1 reason Caitlin is not welcomed by the WNBA is the players feel Caitlin gets more attention than she deserves because she IS WHITE. That is it. Both the black and lesbian players feel their accomplishments have been ignored and d3valued.. They are jealous because she is WHITE. If everything was identical, everything: family, education, general appearance, game, personality, except she was black, Caitlin would note have HALF of this following. I am NOT trying to be mean spirited. It is beyond a sports phenomena....Caitlin is a Cultural Phenomena. And to have half of Caitlin's following, the black girl would have to be a Simone Byles type: very well spoken and educated, and not use any "urban" vernacular. Angel Reese could score 30 pts a game and literally fly from half-court to dunk, and she wouldn't have Caitlin's following. Not saying it's right, wrong, or neither, but the middle-American Caitlin fans are turned off by Reese. They look at her as ghetto and someone they wouldn't let their daughters be friends with. Sounds gross, and not off your generation, but it is true as the sun will rise tommorrow. .. You seem like an open-minded, idealistic person. That is admirable. It is important. But, understanding reality, even if it seems ugly, is important too.
You are a very smart young man . Great video 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼
Thank you 💯💯💯
You nailed it . I think most know better but can't say it .
Ok, I'm hearing this 'man; theory for the first time. Something tells me that there's even more ridiculous gossip on the way. I only even became aware of Clark a few mere weeks ago, I'm a hockey fan. I've really been kind of consumed by all this around her and the WBNA and it smells like pure jealously, that's it. Women are their own worst enemy. They know it, we know it and they know we know it. They go medieval if a Man tells them that but it's true. Married for 42 years, been around, seen a few things. Women automatically hate younger women, they're competition. I hope Clark gets tired of all the girly crap and comes to Los Angeles and plays for the Lakers, she's already a star and she would have a fearsome squad making sure she gets her shots and buckets. C'mon Young Lady make history!
The number 1 reason Caitlin is not welcomed by the WNBA is the players feel Caitlin gets more attention than she deserves because she IS WHITE. That is it. Both the black and lesbian players feel their accomplishments have been ignored and devalued. They are jealous because she is WHITE. If everything was identical, everything: family, education, general appearance, game, personality, except she was black, Caitlin would note have HALF of this following. I am NOT trying to be mean spirited. It is beyond a sports phenomena....Caitlin is a Cultural Phenomena. And to have half of Caitlin's following, the black girl would have to be a Simone Byles type: very well spoken and educated, and not use any "urban" vernacular. Angel Reese could score 30 pts a game and literally fly from half-court to dunk, and she wouldn't have Caitlin's following. Not saying it's right, wrong, or neither, but the middle-American Caitlin fans are turned off by Reese. They look at her as ghetto and someone they wouldn't let their daughters be friends with. Sounds gross, and not off your generation, but it is true as the sun will rise in the morning. .. Being idealistic is a good thing. It is admirable. It is important. But, understand reality, even if it seems ugly, is important too.
You just validated that Clark hate DOES exist, because other people are saying it's normal rookie treatment.
Well said Carter.
I'm just so glad that all the lgbtqrst's of league are so inclusive towards Caitlin!!! What an effing joke!!!!
The number 1 reason Caitlin is not welcomed by the WNBA is the players feel Caitlin gets more attention than she deserves because she IS WHITE. That is it. Both the black and lesbian players feel their accomplishments have been ignored and devalued.. They are jealous because she is WHITE. If everything was identical, everything: family, education, general appearance, game, personality, except she was black, Caitlin would note have HALF of this following. I am NOT trying to be mean spirited. It is beyond a sports phenomena....Caitlin is a Cultural Phenomena. And to have half of Caitlin's following, the black girl would have to be a Simone Byles type: very well spoken and educated, and not use any "urban" vernacular. Angel Reese could score 30 pts a game and literally fly from half-court to dunk, and she wouldn't have Caitlin's following. Not saying it's right, wrong, or neither, but the middle-American Caitlin fans are turned off by Reese .They look at her as ghetto and someone they wouldn't let their daughters be friends with. Sounds gross, and not off your generation, but it is true as the sun will rise tommorrow. .. It is important.to be idealistic. But, understanding reality, even if it seems ugly, is important too.
This makes so much sense. But here's the thing. It's not the media that portrays the idea of women not being treated fairly, it's the actual women in the WNBA themselves! So, it's kind of like they are being told what some others have said all along - you're not that good, boring, and no one wants to watch you. This is a big problem for the W because there simply aren't enough Caitlin Clarks in the league right not to keep it exciting. And why the heck are they adding an expansion team next year when the talent disparity among the existing teams is still so huge.
Carter you're great. Hope life is good to you.
Smart takes Carter
Thanks 💯💯
Sounds like a good Ole boy situation in the workplace I got a new job awhile bak wer I came in an started working the old guys came up an said I hav to slow down cause the more I do the more they hav to do they just wanted to chill an do the least amount of work I get it now that I'm older lol
I’m gonna miss you once the season is over.
Something I’ve been wondering since the beginning of the season
How many coaches who led their team to last place in the league any league stayed onto me the coach again the following year?
Would it be that hard to get a coach in, that can get the players to run an effective defensive scheme?
Great analysis!
The number 1 reason Caitlin is not welcomed by the WNBA is the players feel Caitlin gets more attention than she deserves because she IS WHITE. That is it. Both the black and lesbian players feel their accomplishments have been ignored and devalued They are jealous because she is WHITE. If everything was identical, everything: family, education, general appearance, game, personality, except she was black, Caitlin would note have HALF of this following. I am NOT trying to be mean spirited. It is beyond a sports phenomena....Caitlin is a Cultural Phenomena. And to have half of Caitlin's following, the black girl would have to be a Simone Byles type: very well spoken and educated, and not use any "urban" vernacular. Angel Reese could score 30 pts a game and literally fly from half-court to dunk, and she wouldn't have Caitlin's following. Not saying it's right, wrong, or neither, but the middle-American Caitlin fans are turned off by Reese .They look at her as ghetto and someone they wouldn't let their daughters be friends with. Sounds gross, and not off your generation, but it is true as the sun will rise tomorrow.. You seem like an open-minded, idealistic person. That is admirable. It is important. But, understanding reality, even if it seems ugly, is important too.
Thanks 💯
Larry Bird is the consultant for Indiana. Sue Bird, his daughter is the WNBA woman. Them Celtics we remember are on their way.
Bird was born in Syosset, New York, on Long Island to Herschel and Nancy Bird. No relation to Larry Bird. Sorry!
Beautiful!
Lol... How to piss of women 2024 edition
Tell her to relax and calm down
Ask her if she's on her period
Have a middle age man(like most sport casters) tell the established stars that they are petty and jealous of the young 22 year old who just arrived on the scene, . Yeah, that'll go over real well!
Keep in mind that decades of affirmative action and female empowerment has fostered a hostile attitude. The wnba is also kind of like a private club, jobs/roster spots are relatively scarce. Can't blame some of the women for breaking out the claws to fight for what they consider theirs. Some women will say that's just what they do naturally!
I look forward to watching you grow into a man! Greatness is evident.
I appreciate that!
Great video man! I agree with everything you said except for one thing. You claim that you are “black” but Joe Biden said if you didn’t vote for him, “you ain’t black”. I’m really sorry to have to tell you that bad news.
Amen
This is ridiculous.
Which part?
Because she’s so marketable! She is the quintessential young lady every real life lady wants to be like 😊
They don't play basketball they play roller durby she's respectful and tries to get along with all other players. This racist crap is just that.
I stand with CC so I'm not watching the Olympics. CC is. I love CC so I will hate for her. CC says I don't care. CC likes the ladies of the WNBA. It was a dream of hers to play in the WNBA. I won't watch any game without CC. I stand with CC. BS.
I’m a woke Christian feminist, and I love Caitlin. I completely and totally agree that watching Caitlin run point and then shoot the logo 3’s and be celebrated for her skill is exciting. But what you are missing is the power of narrative and marketing to grow the game. Personally, I think NIL is one of the additional reasons the women’s game is taking off. Both Caitlin and Angel and Cardosa and Martin (and many others) were able to make real money in college and build their personal brands and celebrity status. It’s why Paige returned to UConn for a final season. People like to watch players they feel they know. Sometimes this can grow over the course of a tournament, like it did for the Women’s World Cup Team in 1999, now known as the 99ers, but until NIL, companies like Nike have been gatekeepers to the $$$. NIL has proven their marketability.
Caitlin is exactly what feminism looks like for me. Here’s the thing with the Christian right - as a whole, they really don’t think women should be playing sports. They don’t like seeing women celebrated as they want our talents to be singularly focused on men and raising babies. BUT...FoxNews and company are happy to latch onto Caitlin’s celebrity in order to capitalize on their faux narrative that reverse racism is the actual threat. They take advantage of the media cycles even if there’s some cognitive dissonance when you step back. They’re brilliant at that. That said, I think it’s kind of awesome for their daughters because FoxNews is telling white, conservative parents that it’s okay for their daughters to play sports and ball out, and this is not a typical message for them.
Caitlin is amazing. But. Caitlin’s success isn’t just because she’s a generational talent, it’s because the marketing opportunities were there and they helped keep her name in the media which grows the hype which grows the interest. It’s why you are able to make videos and discuss the game.
Dude said Giannis is not exciting?!
My bad, his name just got thrown in there… that’s a personal opinion lol.
Edit: I was rooting for Book and CP lol
Its the “weird” comment and the “don’t like a lot of them as people” comment that bugs me. There in lies the casual sexism and homophobia. Yes, the wbna product has not been very entertaining. Yes, CC brand of basketbal is very entertaining with the full court passes and logo bombs. Bult the truth is there is an inherent bias against (queer) women. Don’t blame feminism, it has nothing to do with this. Your basketbal argument is enough
Giannis not exciting? lol that’s where u lost me kid…
He’s not… sorry to inform you. He is very likable though.
Nailed it! Its mostly racism too... Black lesbian demons vs white angels 😊
Black demons… white angels…
Huh?
Ahhh, no. The trouble with CC's emergence is the different groups that try to project their beliefs onto her. I mean just what has she said or done to imply she mirrors your conservative lens? Nothing. You know what is real? People don't hate her like you think. There is an obnoxious, insufferable part of her fanbase, not all, that look to use her to spout their political and cultural biases, much like you are doing. You are, in fairness, not as obnoxious but the point still stands. The same is true at the other end of the spectrum while meanwhile, she tries to steer clear of all the noise from both sides.
I believe you're going to find that the players don't hate her like you think. They don't embrace some of her new fans who along with their racist and bigoted comments, are always angry, and call the players trash and black lesbians and welfare. Not very Christian I would say. They;re not really basketball or CC fans but pimping her out for a chance to be heard. Is there resentment towards CC by some players? Sure. But that's true of everyone, everywhere, and not an indicator toward any of your points. We are people and just not perfect and can't always behave as we should. That's life.
I have a feeling at the All-Star break you are going to see that they don't hate her. Their feelings towards the insufferable crazies of her fanbase won't change. It's funny how conservatives are so against entitlement but sing it loud when it comes to CC. She's entitled to be held to different treatment than other rookies or other players in the league. They should take it easy on her because she fills the seats. Every rookie has to prove themselves on the court. Conservatives complain about DEI, but want to make exceptions for CC to be on the Olympic team. Financial exceptions as if they give a damn about the sport or the W. Leave the girl alone and stop projecting onto her. She just wants to play basketball.
i agree
You talk about CC fans bias and then spout your own bias. Your statement on DEI shows your bias against conservatives, whites and straight people. If it wasn't for your bias statements, I would agree with much of your comment...............But your cognizant dissatance is showing.
You get bothered by teenagers saying things on Social Media? Grow Up. And the haters are a very small % of the whole.
Just possibly there is some confusion - a bit of projecting about people projecting. How much do you know of Clark's Fan Base? I would suggest that you learn more, real life... Come spend real time in Iowa, at our schools, understanding how deep our history is...
There are always crazies, trolls, and opportunists. An observant person can separate the wheat from the chaff.
As for Clark, she is typically Iowan - which people today would call conservative. Family values, Christian values - and our own flavor born of our farm building roots of extreme work ethic and reliability between neighbors. We value supporting youth, being humble, a corny sense of humor, and charitable acts. Does this sound familiar? If you have looked at Clark at all - with an observant eye - you will see that this fits Clark to a T. We were also ''progressive'' a century before this was a thing. Women had basketball from the start, 1895 - we understood that if the women could work beside us then they could play sport. We valued effort, not airs like the city folk. We also broke resistance to integration the same year (look at George Washington Carver) and in sports, and stood by our new students when faced with the bigotry of surrounding states. We never changed in our liberty attitudes, but never adoped the liberal ideologies that undermine actual liberty.
Clark expected challenge, but not bullying. The Bully Club of the WNBA doesn't like Clark's Iowan character. She won't take a knee or kiss their ring. She has endured derision, insults - actual misogyny - actual racism - and abuse. But they won't break her. What they haven't come to terms with is that Clark has a culture of people behind her with much deeper roots and much more vision than they have ever imagined. Their bully game, institutionalizing abuse onto rookies who can be ''accepted'' once they perpetuate to the next, has been exposed to the greater world now. And no, Clark wasnt't excluded as a matter of tradition, her exclusion broke tradition. On this team alone Wilson and Taurasi were rookie Olympians, and most other teams had one - it is tradition to add the #1 pick for the passing of the torch. But they fear Clark. They fear what is behind her. They feared that on the world stage it would be the world seeing the torch passed to Clark. So they made up fibs to justify her exclusion, embarrassing themselves. It doesn't matter though - the torch has already been passed, it was in '23. This is why you see the Bully Club acting out - but the more they yell, and swear, and blame, and lash out, the faster they sill sink into the quicksand of their own stink.
Just know that this will be a good thing. Clark is just the tip of the spear - and what drives her goes beyond her - the majority of women basketball players would like to play inh good sport, free of the threat of abuse, this will be a new day for them and - most importantly - for all of the millions of girls who look up to them, especially all of those who've been inspired by Clark.
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Watching wmba is like watching high school ball
More like middle school
Good video
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The hate is from the new Caitlin Clark Cult fans, directed at the rest of the WNBA. Guys like this video host.
She’s not hated over feminism or anything like that. Angel Reese is very feminine and she doesn’t get all the hate. CC hated because she has a whirlwind of impossible hype around her and that rubs people the wrong way. There’s also massive overtones of her being a great white hope amongst a large segment of her fans.
There are players that had just as brilliant careers in college as her when they joined the wnba and were excellent players in the WNBA but they didn’t come with an entourage of loud fans singing their praises while talking about the league and all the players in the most disrespectful ways. People are going to take all of that out on her. I’m normally indifferent to Clark, but when I see people say that she’s the next Jordan or that she’s the best player in the entire wnba, it certainly makes me more critical of her and her record as a player because those claims that they make are simply not true.
Angel Reese is an unintelligent, jealous thug who is not as good a player as Clark....period. No one paid attention to the wnba because it just isn't that great. But, NOW, it's getting attention because of the playing of Clark. I'm so glad she's rich now because she could thumb her nose at everyone, but she has too much class
The number 1 reason Caitlin is not welcomed by the WNBA is the players feel Caitlin gets more attention than she deserves because she IS WHITE. That is it. Both the black and lesbian players feel their accomplishments have been ignored and devalued. They are jealous because she is WHITE. If everything was identical, everything: family, education, general appearance, game, personality, except she was black, Caitlin would note have HALF of this following. I am NOT trying to be mean spirited. It is beyond a sports phenomena....Caitlin is a Cultural Phenomena. And to have half of Caitlin's following, the black girl would have to be a Simone Byles type: very well spoken and educated, and not use any "urban" vernacular. Angel Reese could score 30 pts a game and literally fly from half-court to dunk, and she wouldn't have Caitlin's following. Not saying it's right, wrong, or neither, but the middle-American Caitlin fans are turned off by Reese. They look at her as ghetto and someone they wouldn't let their daughters be friends with. Sounds gross, and not off your generation, but it is true as the sun will rise tommorrow. .. You seem like an open-minded, idealistic person. That is admirable. It is important. But, understanding reality, even if it seems ugly, is important too.
For clarity: Reese exhibits distortions of feminity, but not so much feminism. She's not driven by an ideology but rather drifting, and opportunist.
I am directly familiar with the broad foundation of Clark's fans, Iowans, and we don't care whatsoever about her race. We judge people on their character - with our values being rooted in our farm building heritage which necessitates hard work and cooperation. Loyalty and diligence are characteristics we value most, which is why we have the longest teured politicians and coaches. We support our youth and athletes, win or lose, yet expect them to be sportsmanlike, team supporting, and charitable. Clark is all of this, and this is why we love her. If people would take time, and not just follow social media buzz, they'd learn that people of all backgrounds come to Iowa and call it ''home''. We were first in wbb, in 1895, and in integration, also in 1895 (see George Washington Carver) against the bigotry of the surrounding states. Our schools were first for girls bb, after WWI. We never told our girls, boys, or any race, religion that they could not do anything - so that is why this is a Field of Dreams and we will see a girl like Clark believing in herself. Come to Iowa and you will be surprised by how warm people are (even if you cheered against our Hawkeyes!)... But here is the real rub...
When the Bully Club came at Clark, they didn't realize that she has people backing her who are not like other fans. We are loyal to her like one of our own daughters or nieces... And we abhor unfairness and even more bullying and abuse. Maybe they thought it normal, that they could bully and just keep going, if that is a way they've been living. - But the bullying stops when they meet us. We are too grounded, too long sighted, to aware of sacrifice and human value. Clark respects the women of basketball but - the shoulders that she stands upon are her father and mother's first, then her close community alma mater, and then the greater Iowa culture. This is the silent majorty now coming into focus, and those from afar recognize the tradition of loyalty and standing up for what is right that has become sadly too uncommon. So Clark's confidence will not wain, she has what she has in herself, her faith, and all of us to draw upon.
The reason other players didn't build a fanbase is obvious, but missed until pointed out. Nearly all of the high school girls follow the crowd - to the same 5 times that have won most of the NCAA championships. These monopoly teams buzz saw the tourney and, besides homers, the public has no interest in such an inbalance of sport. For the girls, the price they pay for joining a front runner is that no star can really shine when buried among other stars. Also, these front runner fanbases are entitled - expecting a FF every year and having no interest in real competition. This is why the ''great'' wbb state of Connecticut never sold out a Suns game (since the league's early days) until Clark brought her fans.
There have been many players hyped as ''the next Jordan": but we never saw any vitriol against Harold Minor, etc. Sure people would be derisive, but it was in good sport. What we are seeing with Clark is shameful. People are saying cruel things, insulting her character - although she is even handed and charitable, insulting her appearance and womanhood - actual misogyny that shouldnt' be tolerated, and even cheering her abuse.
@@destinypirate Wow, that all sounds so wonderful, yet......Iowa is a red state..soooooo, full of all the "isms" and "obias" of conservatives and they voted for Trump.
Btw, I do like Clark and hopes she goes elsewhere where she is treated better.
@@amythompson6431 what does that even mean,? I hope you're being facetious but yes we do find growing corners of our society where people can no longer use the language whether being able to draw upon a broad standard vocabulary, the functional use of pronouns, the application of tenses, or the use of suffixes with an identifier.
One of the things that we find quite humorous is that Iowans were both conservative and liberal long long before those terms came around - and were quickly bastardized. We were the first with women's basketball in 1895 while at the same time pushing for integration opportunities in our schools (see George Washington carver, Fred Kinney)against the bigotry that still had a hold in the surrounding states. We considered this Liberty though not, liberalism. At the same time we were able to create the best farms in the world, build our own schools and self-educate, maintain our community structure (which some people today would call conservative) and we simply call all of this our freedom, ie. responsibility. The world looks truly different when the majority of communities function on a rhythm of the seasons and the weather - and the efforts required to create more food than anywhere... All between the life-threatening embrace of winters that are so severe that we have hurricane level winds carrying temperatures that can end of life in minutes... Through it all we understand that our survival is dependent upon how good we are as neighbors, how good we are his parents, and how good we are at supporting our young people including our athletes - whether born here or brave enough to come and play through all of our seasons.
Did you see her performance tonight? 7 pts and 7 turnovers 😂😂😂
That's what happens when the team freezers her out, zero good screens, maybe 2 passes per quarter. Even Kobe coudn't score if the ball wasn't delivered.
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The hate is not real it is a narrative that is pushed by her new racist fans she gained because of the angel reese hand wave. Reese got drug for that hand wave but CC was praised for it when she did it. That created racial tension and her popularity blew up from there. Those new racist fans she brought talk down to the whole wnba but target black players the most and disrespect them. They say CC is the face of the wnba, a ja who? Make fun of reeses complexion and eye lashes, say CC is classy and articulate. CC is not hated its her fans that are hated. Also there are other more exciting players then CC. Arike is more exciting just to start the list.
With the amount of Love and Positivity you are espousing, who could argue that your type of fandom is the righteous one.
Or, you could reserve judgment and take the time to actually know Clark's fan base - which would mean spending real time in Iowa - and not just buzzing with the social media hive mind. (BTW, Clark had MILLIONS of fans before Reese, after -and more. We don't think about Reese. If you are reacting to trolls, then you will get caught under the bridge).
@@destinypirate if you associate yourself with the "racist" fans I don't know what to say but if you're not racist then I'm not talking about you. She does have a racist group of new fans and there are not just from Iowa but it's wierd that u think all her fans are from Iowa. Anyways I know she had fans before. I'm talking about when she exploded and reach people outside the female ncaa circle. And as I side note Illinois (I know it's not Iowa but it's their neighbor) had the most sundown towns. Just saying it's not far fetch what I'm saying and I'm not judging anybody and telling you what conversations I'm having with these people and I still don't know why you focused on just Iowa. Anyways you shouldn't defend racist people unless you're one of them but I'm assuming you are saying not so idk what actually bothered you?
@@KARMA-ok4yk I'm going to assume positively that you'll agree with placing importance on being careful in conversation and leaving the assumptions and projections aside. Also it doesn't help with the judgmental language, it's not for you to say what is weird or not, in fairness, until you have taken some time directly with that of which you speak. But we all do it at times and in good faith I am rather going to assume you took mental shortcuts for what you believe are good reasons. I would caution any of us not to take mental shortcuts though when we have charged topics..
To try and parse this down just a bit, I'm focused on Iowans because Iowans are the heart of this story, and the best way to know us is to spend time together, which we are always more than willing to do. Sadly, the national narrative has fallen to a bunch of sideways junk instead of a focus on the foundational culture from which a girl could grow to believe she could do anything from, with the support of the most loyal people you could find.
Iowans are far and away the heart of this story. Clark grew from and with us, with clear core values, and of course Iowans are the core fans of Caitlin Clark, this would include the Iowan to reside in Iowa and those who are dispersed far and wide. The Iowan is unlike any other fandom in terms of the level of supporting and offering enduring loyalty and, most importantly, the ethical standards which are expected of the athletes, coaches, and fans. We have the longest tenured leaders and coaches always, because we choose them carefully as they uphold the standards of our core values. Caitlin Clark's hard-working, humble, corny humored, community and charity focused character is precisely Iowan. Clark as a phenomena was buoyed by Iowans all the way, who were the first ones to of course sell out all of the arenas not only in Iowa but everywhere that she went, they created the first 2 to 3 million households that would be watching and of course she deserves all of the credit for her unique and entertaining skill which then alighted into the mainstream market.
None of this is new as Iowans have always supported their athletes this way, we expect a high standards, but offer the highest standard of loyalty and return. Athletes aren't supported when only when they win...we support the players humanity also, long after play is over. This is why those who come from elsewhere to Iowa end up calling Iowa home, even if they travel afar again, even if decades later.
The same level of ethical standards is demanded within the fandom. Do jerks pop up? Absolutely. But they are in the minority of dissipated minorities. If you were to go to games, say it football stadiums for the arena for basketball or wrestling, if fans crossed the line into poor sportsmanship they will get pulled back into line by the Hawkeye fans themselves. Simply put the perspective isn't lost on the value of ethics and sharing even if things go south in a game. It's a game after all. That's why you saw absolutely no change in fan loyalty between when the Hawkeye women were winning or losing, or even now whether Caitlin and the Fever are winning and losing. We are supporters of the person most of all.
Beyond this, Iowa certainly does not consider itself Illinois or Missouri or kansas, Iowa was at the forefront in the Midwest for women's opportunity and all races having an opportunity. This began formally in 1895 at our universities, you can look up George Washington Carver or Fred Kenny among others.... Who came to Iowa to escape the bigotry of surrounding states and when traveling with the team and facing the bigotry again the entire team would stand behind them. We take more pride in treating people well then we do in national championships. The difference is Islands don't wear this on their sleeve and would rarely talk about it, it's just the standard, the language of aggressive progressives and liberals who weaponize these ideas is not our language.
Of course we were very disappointed with two significant developments that ran countercurrent to the wonderful narrative of Caitlin Clark and the Hawkeyes.
First we had the sore losers like Don Staley who fell entitled to win and couldn't accept losing to the Hawkeyes and who then tried to frame coach blutter as racist and continued for years with sideways remarks all the way to the Olympic committee thing. Staley most of all precipitated among South Carolina players which led over to LSU and other players causing them to act towards Clark in the same bigoted ways that Tiger Woods faced 30 years ago. Of course this continues to this very day in the WNBA and it's a real shame. We absolutely push back against this, not only for Clark sake but for the sake of any woman who shouldn't be treated with derision, racism, or misogyny. Everyone should agree on that. one thing that those bigoted people didn't expect was the 42 of the Iowans because we simply don't back down for bullies. We never have. As I referred back to when we started integrating our teams we would not back down when racism went against these new players, and just the same we won't on behalf of clark, it doesn't matter to us whether the players are black or white or others, we expect them to be treated fairly and ethically.
The other major development is the one that you are alluding to, we're also shocked when we saw race beaters and hater trolls jump into the Caitlin Clark narrative to get their jollies. These are absolutely not Hawkeye fans, I can tell you that point blank because if they tried anything like that anywhere but behind a screen they would be stopped immediately, by us.
A simple example of this relates to something that I would invite you to that's quite easy, a nice podcast called Hawkeye of the storm, you could look up the post-game talks from the last season and they feature former player Kachine Alexander... In our talks we would have anywhere from several hundred to a couple thousand people and once in a while someone would jump in with some bigoted comments, either toward Caitlin Clark or toward kachin or whomever, and we would just simply and firmly shut them down. Nobody like that is welcome in the Hawkeye fandom. But as you know they will try and there are plenty who will come to I said sheep, yet we are quick to recognize the wolf underneath.
We also come to the defense of Angel Reese or anyone else. I see that it's often here that people lose the thread is they take no nuance and noticing the difference between criticism and bigotry. For example when Reese exhibited her poor sportsmanship at the national title game we certainly criticized that, but whenever someone would try to hijack that conversation into something racist or mean we would shut them down immediately. we wish the best for Angel Reese and even more would rather see her turn a corner toward a happier way and if she did and befriended Caitlin clark, instead for example supporting her teammate and being violent toward clark, they could do something really special, a real woman's magic and bird type of moment that would be beneficial for them personally, diffusing The heirs of animosity that all of this has fueled in the league, they would also benefit professionally is the endorsements they could do together would be incredible, and they would benefit the culture as a whole.
Hopefully that adds a little bit of clarity and insight. And just so you know I wish you the best and whatever your team is I wish them the best to you and would be happy to invite you to one of our stadiums or arenas and we could enjoy sharing against each other, or together, either way.
@@destinypirate it seems like you're talking about her original true fans that not the same ones I'm talking about. The CC fans actually have 2 groups now and I said I have talked to these people. This is not some assumption or judgment this is what they post. There's a certain group that is not there to support CC for the right reasons and CC spoke against this recently from.her own mouth.
@@KARMA-ok4yk that's pretty much it, but her true fans are her only true fans.
I was surprised to learn a new term a few years ago and that term is "hate watching" - for myself and generally for people I know it's always been natural to simply turn off a show or don't see a film that's not my cup of tea. Of course we end up seeing something we don't like that much at times and it's reasonable to offer some criticism.... But it never occurred to me to actually seek out things that I don't like and then to spend time deriding and commenting and arguing and so forth about these shoes and films. If you like Madonna and I like Michael Jackson and neither the opposite, that's fine, we have two radios. Those people who jumped into the Clerk narrative to espouse some sort of mean-spiritedness and hate strike me as the same, people caught in a pattern of emoting negativity on others. We just have to be a little bit more discerning for the distinction between true fans and people who are up to something else, and I think we can then not confuse the matter.
For example, from the context of our dialogue I can reasonably deduct that you are not in Iowan. Besides me stating my origin, you could as likely deduct that I'm not a South Carolinian. These are not really assumptions, as we do have some evidence to the matter, they're reasonable deductions, and if mistaken easily corrected. Maybe your grandparents are Iowan and you spent summers in iowa, or maybe you went to the university, and then you could be iowan through another path.
What would not be deduction is if I then projected that you disliked Caitlin Clark or that you were racist against Caitlin Clark. I have no evidence to this and making such an assumption would not only be illogical it would be unethical. We should always give one another the benefit of a doubt, or take the position of viewing others as innocent until proven guilty per se. To further contextualize I would also reason that there should be no bias held against Caitlin Clark as she has done no harm to anyone and rather benefited many. Given these two perspectives, if I did encounter someone who was exhibiting bias against Caitlin Clark I would not assume that this person did so because they were a fan of another player, but rather because this was their own issue, their own toxicity as it were.
while you have a good point that one of the reasons but you wrong bc that the reason she get hate now ,it simply her fans being disrespectful toward other woman in the sports,that includes her own teammates,people keep saying they hating on her but i don’t think that the case for all of them bc a lot of them has praise her but y’all want these want to worship her which indirectly disrespect caitlin bc she herself have said she want to uplift woman sport ,she hate bc people use her name to be racist toward black woman,which in return ppl be ignorant back which shouldn’t be the case ,catlin have the right earn her flowers just like she did in college she gone ight ,good video but be honest do more research it seem like your pandering toward what her racist fans say while yes i started watching woman bb bc of her most don’t even speak on bb skils they only speak on her race
BS they hate her because she is white and they believe she didn't earn all the money she is getting you are blaming fans LOL
I havent seen her fans disrespecting other teamates apart from saying they should back her up and stuff which they should all do because… well… thats what a frickin team is lol but the only one i see getting trashed is Christie Sides and to be honest she deserves it, they got the first round pick 2 years in a row and are doing trash again, the hate shes getting has been well earned.
@Doomguy9OOO yes!❤💯
That is are a lot of accusations. Do you have reciepts? Are you SURE that you aren't reacting to trolls who try to drag people under their bridges?
I would suggest coming to Iowa. We are open minded to everyone, will greet with a warm handshake and a smile, and share about any sport with good sportsmanship. - However, there is no more enduring of a people nor any more supporting of our youth. If people continue to deride, insult, show true misogyny, show actual racism, and abuse Caitlin Clark, they will disover a people which they hadn't reckoned with. We will NEVER desert each other, nor one of our kids, nor even others in need. This runs deep in our blood and we have been fighting for fairness since we first founded our farms. Fairness means the opportunity to work hard and make ones own way, with the support of neighbors. That is all the Clark has asked for, and deserves, and will be be there for her - in good sport, or with strong shoulders for her to stand upon.