@@denisemilfort4581it should be in black people's conscience who killed none black race people before ! Oj Simpson Wesley Browne Craig Price Gary Dean Robinson and kevin Templeton oh cowards
@Vanessa Ellis Very, very odd way to census racial categories but I get your point. Like most hispanic people though, he is a mixture of white europeans and native americans. Zimmerman's mother is peruvian native american and it shows. You can't mix white paint with brown paint, and then still have the same white paint.
@@daviddurango840that's what black race people does it Alot to none black race people alot just for passing by neighborhood areas where's alots of black race people ! Too much assaults ambush follows to stalk and kills ! How bout that !!!!
You are right. George Zimmerman did nothing wrong that night. George Zimmerman did nothing unlawful or illegal that night. Trayvon Martin instigated and escalated the events that led to his death that night. George Zimmerman was innocent!
@@lacerav5818 According to Trayvon's girlfriend, Trayvon lost George and made it home safe. Then Trayvon decided to go back 100 yards in the dark and the rain to find George. Trayvon confronted George and sucker punched him in the face breaking his nose. Then Trayvon got George down and straddled him MMA style. Trayvon started hitting George and banging his head against the concrete. George took a beating for over a minute while he was yelling for help and no one helped him. As George was struggling to get loose, his jacket rose up revealing his gun. George thought that Trayvon was going for his gun so he blocked Trayvon's arm, grabbed his gun and shot Trayvon in the chest, killing him in self defense. This entire incident took 7 minutes and 21 seconds, from George Zimmerman's call to the non emergency number at 7:09.34 to 7:16.55 when Trayvon was shot. The 1st officer arrived at 7:17.45. A couple of the witnesses saw George Zimmerman about 30 seconds after the shot. George Zimmerman had the following injuries: 2 black eyes A broken nose 2 gashes on back of head Abrasions on both sides of head Various bumps and strike marks on face and head. Trayvon Martin had no defensive wounds. Trayvon did have: A scraped knuckle A bullet wound John Good the only eye witness to part of the assault, said that he saw Trayvon Martin on top MMA style, raining down blows, and George Zimmerman on the bottom yelling for help. If George Zimmerman self inflicted his wounds
@Original Content According to Trayvon's girlfriend, Trayvon lost George and made it home safe. Then Trayvon decided to go back 100 yards in the dark and the rain to find George. Trayvon confronted George and sucker punched him in the face breaking his nose. Then Trayvon got George down and straddled him MMA style. Trayvon started hitting George and banging his head against the concrete. George took a beating for over a minute while he was yelling for help and no one helped him. As George was struggling to get loose, his jacket rose up revealing his gun. George thought that Trayvon was going for his gun so he blocked Trayvon's arm, grabbed his gun and shot Trayvon in the chest killing him in self defense. If Trayvon had minded his own business then he would have lived. Trayvon Martin instigated and escalated the events that led to his death that night. George Zimmerman did nothing unlawful or illegal that night. George Zimmerman was innocent!
@Original Content George Zimmerman has never been convicted of any crimes. George was either found not guilty or the person admitted that they lied. No crimes!
"dead through no fault of his own" except for jumping on top of zimmerman and slamming his head against the concrete after doubling back 100 yards to go attack him.
@@bryanb6016 George Zimmerman did nothing wrong that night. George Zimmerman did nothing unlawful or illegal that night. Trayvon Martin instigated and escalated the events that led to his death that night.
You can still die. People die by being punched once. Zimmerman withstood atleast 3 punches. According to a physician, he had 2 black eyes and a broken nose. Lacerations on the back of the head may be where Martin is pounding him to a pavement. Being hit on the back of the head against anything solid can be lethal, or can leave to permanent injury, mental or physical.
Sad part is that this prosecutor was one of the best in the country. This trial was a joke to appease the racists in the black community. It was a no win case.
@@truthonly5716the same dam thing that happens to none black race people alot by black race people alot just for passing by neighborhood areas where's alots of black race
How does the prosecutors lose a case as simple as this one. A grown ass man has no probable cause and no right to follow a kid, calls the police and is told not to follow him, ignores the advice and follows him while armed with a lethal weapon. The outcome is a physical fight that he provoked, then by his own decision decides to use lethal force because he claims a 17 year old is stronger than him and can kill him with his bare hands. The kid had candy in his hand, his father lived in that community, he was walking back from a 7/11. How the justice system became so inefficient , it's almost laughable if the kid didn't died.
Zimmerman was on the ground and his skull seemed to have been slammed into the concrete. If someone threw a brick at your head you are justified to use lethal force. The following of Trayvon is not illegal is it was a public space.
@@JChang0114 So if I decide to follow you while you walk to your home it's ok because it's not illegal in public, I provoke a fight with you because for whatever reason in my mind you look suspicious , yet I have no probable cause and I am not in law enforcement to make that decision but I regardless make that decision, the outcome is you get agitated at me because I am harassing you but in my mind I am justified in doing so because is legal, we engaged in a fight and you beat me up , me having a gun don't know if you would kill me with your bare hands because you already smack my head in the ground so I decided to shoot you and kill you. does that sound right to you?
@@jerome0929 "So if I decide to follow you while you walk to your home it's ok because it's not illegal in public," Yes. "I provoke a fight with you because for whatever reason in my mind you look suspicious" Speculation. The rest of the scenario is pure speculation. We don't know who provoked a fight with who.
@@JChang0114 If you're following someone against his desires after the police told you not to, you provoke whatever outcome comes out of your actions! it's common fucking sense!
@@jerome0929 The police never told Zimmerman anything. The dispatcher is they same as any man and just a glorified telephone operator. Following someone does not provoke anything. It's a public street and people can walk down any path they choose.
You're so upset about George Zimmerman breaking the law, that you attempt to quote mine in an attempt to make Zimmerman guilty. It states specifically on the individual being attacked to PREVENT imminent death or great bodily harm. Also it clearly states to prevent the imminent commission of a forcible felony. If Martin was alive, he would've definitely have been charged for felony battery for repeatedly attacking Zimmerman, regardless whether Zimmerman was dead or severely injured.
Rachel Jeantel's thoughtless testimony is what prejudiced the jury against Trayvon Martin, and ultimately cleared George Zimmerman of any wrong doing. Her arrogance, smart alec remarks and thoughtless words are what got that cold-blooded murderer off the hook.
If the doctor wrote the wrong dosage, it's negligent homicide. An airline mechanic can legally fix a plane. If he screws up and it crashes, it's negligent homicide. If the neighborhood watch leader screws up and kills an innocent person instead of a criminal, it's negligent homicide.
Except Zimmerman would never follow someone if he didn't have a gun and you're ignoring his mindset that night so your theory is implausible. The bruises on Trayvon would have surfaced if he lived long enough for his blood to do it's thing. Zimmerman has contradicted himself so many times that I wouldn't believe a word out of his mouth and the totality of the evidence points to his guilt.
Why didn't you testify in trial As an expert what bruises would trayvon Martin have and what evidence do you have that Zimmerman ever assaulted trevon. Zimmerman's inconsistencies were extremely minor
@@kjs257incpen3 I guess another positive that came out of this case (besides an ironclad self defense case) is the fact that the little trouble maker Trayvon has been felony-free for a little over 10 years!
@@denisemilfort4581that's how black race people does it Alot to none black race people alot just for passing by neighborhood areas where's alots of black race !! Nobody never talks about that !!!
I'm glad that George Zimmerman was found not guilty. I was mugged twice at knifepoint in my life and each attacker was a young black male. Does that have anything to do with how I feel? You bet it does!
If it's true you were mugged at knifepoint by a young black male then why would you compare your experience with this? Was Zimmerman mugged? Was he being robbed? Was he being followed? If this incident happened at this present political/social climate I bet you Zimmerman will have a new "residence" where he will be told what to do- for at least 20 years
Zimmerman was the one who started it. He followed him when the dispatcher said not to. And he was the one who approached. And Martin felt threatened. I think everybody would feel threatened if they were in the same situations
That's what black race people does it Alot to none black race people alot just for passing by neighborhood areas where's alots of black !! Why's that nobody talks about that cause it turns into race cards !!!
Why are you gonna cry for help when you got a gun on you(a lethal weapon),he persued him in the 1st place because he knew he had a gun on him. He didnt even care if Trayvon had a gun or not,he wanted him..and he wanted him badly.
We don't trust black police officers neither especially black police officers takes up for black race people and becomes all undenials for black individuals !!! How bout that !!!
How bout whenever a none black race people Hispanic or White Caucasian gets mugg follow by black race and kill by black race people alot just for passing by neighborhood areas where's alots of black !! Nobody talks about that !!!
Man my little brother was 17 when this happened, I would be heartbroken if that had been him. I hope his family gets justice, their teenaged son is gone for good.
The young kid attacks Zimmerman , who defends himself. Dont act like the 17 year old ain't got no blame here. I see these young bucks starting fights all the time. Trevon tried to beat Zimmerman up and so he ended up getting shot. If trevon hadn't attacked he'd still be alive. Period.
It's negligent homicide. Mistakenly going after an innocent person as neighborhood watch leader and the innocent person winds up dead, is negligent homicide. Stand your ground is a separate issue. The root of the problem was a deliberate mistake not an accident.
It's so lame and transparent: The prosecutor says Zimmerman "profiled a young boy with Skittles". The fact is, when he first saw him, all he saw was a figure in a hoodie. That's it. There was no way to know how old he was, nor what he was carrying. The jury would have to be plain stupid to be swayed by nonsensical wordplay like this.
It really sickens me people think hes innocent in the audio of a caller you can here Martin screaming at the top of his lungs "help" and then a gunshot
I don't get why Prosecutors get to shout toward and call names directly to and point at Defendants, who can't do anything but sit there and take it per the rules of court procedure. The rules of court proceedings shouldn't allow for this sort of completely unfair histrionics.
That Trayvon would've had bruises is complete conjecture, and the injuries sustained by Zimmerman point against the fight being any kind of even exchange. The jury acquitted Zimmerman after presented the evidence in which you claim he's lying, and that's without admitting evidence that would further reduce Trayvon's credibility. Zimmerman thought Trayvon looked suspicious and had reason to. You have no reason to think that Zimmerman had any intention of confronting Trayvon; that's your own bias.
Dispatchers work closely with police. They give instructions about what to do, what's happening and so forth. Zimmerman was not a cop. His ass was a neighborhood watchman. He had as much authority as a mall security guard.
if TM was so freaked about being followed, why didn't he call the police? oh, thats right, he was too busy attacking GZ!! time to free GZ!!! TM wanted to live a thug life and paid the thug price!!!
If you live in a supposed to be 'safe' gated neighbourhood, and in one year 8 houses get broken into, you get vigilant. Kids live there too.. protection is failing and the police can't seem to do anything. So yeah you make the wrong call one day to start a neighborhood watch and in bad judgment try to stop who you think is the next thug. After getting smashed to the concrete for it though, kicked to the head repeatedly (2 skull lacerations and broken nose on record), you point and fire in fear of never seeing another day or familiar face ever again. This makes you a human being who f*ed up, paying for it knowing and feeling you killed an innocent kid, like the ones you tried to protect in the first place, to live. That is your sentence. What happened up to the verdict and now still in comments found here, is a glimpse of how humanity is slowly losing touch with itself and reality more and more.
There are a few strong arguments in what you said. But I respectfully disagree with your verdict. There are so many different ways that scenario could have ended. There is also a beginning and several middle parts to the story. It's important to stick to the facts. Zimmerman is not the victim. He is the one who made the initial decisions that led to the death of Trayvon Martin. He was the instigator in this case.
pt2. The defendant was armed. The victim was not. There is no evidence to support the defendant had any reason to believe the victim posed him any personal harm until he approached the victim and harassed him. There is evidence that the victim beat his aggressor about the head. But this never would have occurred if Zimmerman had called the police instead. Sure, maybe he was worried the police would show up and shoot the kid dead immediately. That's a valid concern. But I doubt that was what prevented him from doing so. Point is, Zimmerman should have been found guilty of Manslaughter in the Second Degree at worst, in the First at best. He did it. So did OJ.
raggedthistle I don't know if you follow the sport of MMA, I do. The 'victim' in this case being a trained mixed martial artist, was armed in that way and took the defendant down to the pavement and started "ground and pounding" away.That definetely poses a personal harm, you don't break your nose and get two cuts on your head over nothing. That all happened before the shot. No matter how they got to that situation, an untrained person against a trained MMA fighter, unable to move, in fear of getting beaten to death, shot the gun to protect his life. At least that's how I'll see it until someone can convince me otherwise. All this media hyperbole about backgrounds, racism, noise and static is just adding more and more confusion around it all.
@ace toxic The following was brought out at the trial and NEVER disproven: George Zimmerman was on his way to the store when he saw Trayvon Martin walking on the grass and looking at a house that had been broken into recently. George drove past and parked at the clubhouse while he called the non emergency number. Trayvon saw George sitting in his truck, talking on the phone and watching him. Trayvon told his girlfriend that a guy was watching him. Trayvon walked past George and down Twin Tree Lane. George lost sight of Trayvon so he drove down Twin Tree Lane and parked at the cut through. Trayvon saw George driving down Twin Tree Lane and he told his girlfriend that the guy was following him. Trayvon's girlfriend told him to run and Trayvon ran south towards the back gate. After Trayvon ran south towards the back gate, George got out of his truck and tried to follow in the direction that Trayvon ran. About 15 seconds later, the dispatcher hearing wind noise asked George if he was following him and George said yeah. The dispatcher advised George that they didn't need him to do that. George said okay and STOPPED following in the direction that Trayvon ran. Even though Trayvon ran south towards the back gate, George walked east to the next street as he continued to talk to the dispatcher for another minute and a half. When Trayvon ran south towards the back gate, he was on the phone with his girlfriend and the call got disconnected. Trayvon's girlfriend called him back and Trayvon told her that he had lost the guy and he was at his daddy's fiancee's house in the back. This was almost 100 yards south of where Trayvon would eventually confront George 3 1/2 minutes later. According to Trayvon's girlfriend, Trayvon lost George and made it home. Did he go inside the house? No, Trayvon decided to go back 100 yards in the dark and the rain to find George. Trayvon confronted George and sucker punched him in the face. Then Trayvon got George down and straddled him MMA style. Trayvon started hitting George and banging his head against the concrete. George took a beating for over a minute while he was yelling for help and no one helped him. As George was struggling to get loose, his jacket rose up revealing his gun. George thought that Trayvon was going for his gun so he blocked Trayvon's arm, grabbed his gun and shot Trayvon in the chest killing him in self defense.
Is that sentence meant to be used to show that Zimmerman is guilty? It has little meaning if it does. Dispatchers are only, and I will repeat, *Only* there to advise, and give information, they are not able to give orders. Dispatchers are there to give advise between cops and the caller. If you don't like that then I don't know how else to explain to you the use of a dispatcher.
@@truthonly5716 i just heard about all this, but the comments you put are amusing lol poor kid though, didn't deserve to die like that. keep being funny :D
@@yendementia9018 Since you don't really know anything, I will enlighten you. The following was brought out at the trial and NEVER disproven: George Zimmerman was on his way to the store when he saw Trayvon Martin walking on the grass and looking at a house that had been broken into recently. George drove past and parked at the clubhouse while he called the non emergency number. Trayvon saw George sitting in his truck, talking on the phone and watching him. Trayvon told his girlfriend that a guy was watching him. Trayvon walked past George and down Twin Trees Lane. George lost sight of Trayvon so he drove down Twin Trees Lane and parked at the cut through. Trayvon saw George driving down Twin Trees Lane and he told his girlfriend that the guy was following him. Trayvon's girlfriend told him to run and Trayvon ran south towards the back gate. After Trayvon ran south towards the back gate, George got out of his truck and tried to follow in the direction that he had seen Trayvon run. About 15 SECONDS later, the dispatcher hearing wind noise asked George if he was following him and George said yeah. The dispatcher advised George that they didn't need him to do that. George said okay, and stopped trying to follow in the direction that he had seen Trayvon run. Even though Trayvon ran south towards the back gate, George walked east to the next street as he continued to talk to the dispatcher for another minute and a half. When Trayvon ran south towards the back gate, he was on the phone with his girlfriend and the call got disconnected. Trayvon's girlfriend called him back and Trayvon told her that he had lost the guy and he was right by his daddy's fiancee's house in the back. This was almost 100 yards south of where Trayvon would eventually confront George Zimmerman 3 1/2 minutes later. According to Trayvon's girlfriend, Trayvon lost George and made it home safe. Then Trayvon decided to go back 100 yards in the dark and the rain to find George. Trayvon confronted George and sucker punched him in the face breaking his nose. Then Trayvon got George down and straddled him MMA style. Trayvon started hitting George and banging his head against the concrete. George took a beating for over a minute while he was yelling for help and no one helped him. As George was struggling to get loose, his jacket rose up revealing his gun. George thought that Trayvon was going for his gun so he blocked Trayvon's arm, grabbed his gun and shot Trayvon in the chest killing him in self defense. When Trayvon Martin committed felony assault on George Zimmerman and wouldn't stop even though George Zimmerman was yelling for help, that is when Trayvon Martin deserved to die.
@@truthonly5716 Damn xD you're on point with a response it seems. Glad you have this stuff on hand for some reason :D Someone needs to keep records of what happens. Though, it's my admant opinion that nobody should /deserve/ to die. Arrested? Beaten in return? Whatever. But the kid was still just murdered, the reasons for his death may be self defense if that's truly what happened. Should the guy have had more than a slap on the wrist and time wasted done to him? Of course, but i'd just say things got heated, and a gun was pulled and probably fired without much premeditated thought. Regardless, the poor kid didn't live to see adulthood. thank you though for responding, I had no idea you would. You just amused me with your constant same responses lol
Dispatchers cannot give lawful orders. Have you read the Dispatcher training manual? No? Here's the sentence of the Dispatcher's duty. "Remember that you simply provide information to the officers about what is happening and where. You do not "order" officers to go somewhere or to do something." -- 911dispatch Please read the full transcript of the dispatch as well before you make comments on RUclips. Thanks.
Could you even imagine this wannabe cop George following you around where you live when you’re doing nothing wrong?.... Even the 911 operator told him to leave it alone! If George did what he was instructed to do this kid would still be alive. George deserves life in prison.
My friend, having the back of your head hit on concrete and receiving lacerations is not light. Nor is a broken nose a light injury, keep in mind, the back of your head is vulnerable. Again, you're basing your views of what you see, and not what the actual qualified doctors see. Also self-defense law permits it, stop pretending that you know the self-defense law, as you clearly shown that you don't know how it works, nor do you know the justification of it.
I wouldn't. I would turn around and ask the man who was following me, why he was doing that, and tell him I had nothing on me besides some candy and beverages. In most situations, the person following you would then leave you alone. If not, then you do have the right to get hostile and defend yourself.
I hate racism, I hate guns. I think the reason tragedys like this happen is because it's legal to carry a firearm in America with a simple permit. Here in the uk guns are illegal you get people who break the law and do it anyway everywhere but in this case.... Neighbours were too afraid to leave their houses and go help. Why? Because of fear of being shot dead. They should ban guns in America how many more youths and people in general are going to have to die before people see the real issues here? How can they suggest there was zero racial profiling he was a young African-American walking home from the shops? A vehicle pulls slowly along side him trailing him now regardless of that being legal etc. over here if a grown man was trailing a 17 year old who wouldn't run? We were always brought up to avoid and run. So why was this boy any different. How could Zimmerman say the boy wasn't afraid in a previous interview I watched on him. How does he know how he felt in those moments he is not him? It's always going to be maybes and what ifs. But what really matters is a child lost his life whether he was being violent or not I struggle to understand how a grown man couldn't fight off a child without the final resort of killing him? It's a choice we all have one he could have thrown him with force and ran. Even the mere sight of a gun would have been enough but to just kill him? The justice system is messed up there is always a way maybe if there was no guns neighbours could have came out and separated it and the boy would be alive to tell his side but of course he is not. I understand if people are terrified and threatened into defending themselves in frightening circumstances but I just struggle to see how a young skinny 17 year old would put the fear of God into a grown man unarmed and why was we even carrying a gun on watch in the first place? Why didn't he just go back to his car let the police handle it? System is corrupt. If I was following a young boy who seemed to oppose a threat I'd be away no way would I just walk on through knowing he's seen me and knows I've been following him. Minor details don't add up but then we will never know the truth only the verdict that has been decided & Zimmerman himself. He also said he wouldn't change it because it's gods will ... Fate. He has Catholic religious beliefs. Well the Catholic faith does not condone killing of any kind so how can it be the work of God? how can he truly believe that? .... I'm sure he will find out that answer himself one day. This has just paved the way for others to shoot people claim self defence and go scot free. Like I said justice system is a joke! The fact he went out with a firearm and pin pointed him etc should be cause for something. Very very wrong! I hope it didn't cause a divide in the racial aspect of things because I myself are white and it wouldn't matter to me what colour of skin the youth had I would still feel the same there was no need to kill. I myself would rather die than live with killing a child. Maybe that's weird but just how I feel!
Guns are there to PROTECT US from the government, you know that the 3rd(in the world) most death are by government stop being a sheep. Plus gun save WAY MORE life's then they kill it's not even CLOSE
if he wanted to defend his self he would have just walked away. his job as neighborhood watch does not include having a gun or even approching the suspect. hence the watch in neighborhood watch.
@@catherineconteh3692 George Zimmerman did nothing wrong that night. George Zimmerman did nothing unlawful or illegal that night. Trayvon Martin instigated and escalated the events that led to his death that night. Trayvon Martin was at fault. George Zimmerman was innocent.
Elvis Terry first of all let me explain to you what instigation means. Gz was in his car and was not followed by Tm and if you can listen when Zimmerman call the cops they told him not to follow the boy but he did and you are there saying the 17 year old boy instigate it what kind of human being are you that boy was screaming for help in the video clearly showing that he knows his life was about to be taken by someone that doesn't even knows him and you think Zimmerman is innocent someone with a gun and older person you know what i will say to you pray one day that you will not meet someone that hate you for no reason and decide to end you in a hateful manner like that and at the end of the day they let him walk free and let me see and know how your soul will feel after that
Elvis Terry we all going to die one day but you don't know how and when God say judge not so you will not be judge but i this case you decide to defend a coldkiller like Zimmerman and do you know the law of karma anything you serve the world it will get back to you in due time if you see Zimmerman as a innocent person well it will be a day that someone else out there will harm you and other people will see that person innocent too i always say if you think you mean there is always someone out there that is more ruthless than you so go ahead and support coldkiller like Zimmerman and it will be your turn one day and if it was you that got killed like that will you be happy will your soul be happy to let your killer walk free i dont think you
@@catherineconteh3692 Your problem is that you know nothing about what happened that night, so you lie. You can't prove that George Zimmerman did anything illegal or unlawful that night. God will judge you for your lies. All liars will be cast into the lake of fire. God will judge George Zimmerman and Travon Martin for what happened that night. Trayvon Martin attacked George Zimmerman and tried to kill George Zimmerman. George shot Trayvon to save his own life. Self defense is NOT murder.
Space has nothing to do with it. It depends solely on the "proportionality" of the attacker/defender. If the attacker is using non-lethal force, you cannot reciprocate it with deadly force. When you think about it, this makes sense why it was written into law. If someone pushes you, does that give you the right to pull out a pistol and shoot them dead? No. Sure, you may have FELT like you were being threatened, but your life wasn't in danger from a mere shove. So you can't claim self-defense.
@A Ad is he a hero for murdering a unarmed teenager because of his race? Dead man tell no tales, that's what makes this perp get away with his crime of a one sided story that no one else will ever know. I'm sure he'll get what's coming for him, murderers always do
@@quietstorm677 George Zimmerman was not told to stay in his car. George Zimmerman was appointed to be the neighborhood watch captain of the community George Zimmerman did nothing wrong that night. George Zimmerman did nothing unlawful or illegal that night. Trayvon Martin instigated and escalated the events that led to his death that night. George Zimmerman was innocent!
But when it results in death of the innocent, it's negligent homicide. It's legal for a doctor to prescribe medication. If it kills you, it's negligent homicide. So, it was a mistake.
99% of the time.If someone was doing that it would be with hostile intention.It is very polite.But don't follow that mandate.Martin had no idea why he was being followed by a grown man twice his size.Think logically.It was a bad neighbourhood.So,Trevor thought for the worst.I would've probably done the same thing.
i think he is guilty of 2nd degree murder, all the evidence clearly proves it, along with all the lies GZ told, like claiming his screams were silenced by the gunshot heard in a 911 call.
The female jurors were more than likely selected by the prosecution. Women are more willing to be empathetic and envision Trayvon being there own son, brother, etc.
"The dispatcher told him to stop following and he carried on!" WRONG! NO HE DIDN'T! After Trayvon ran south, the dispatcher asked George which way he had run. Then George got out of his truck and tried to follow in the direction that he had seen Trayvon run. About 15 SECONDS later, the dispatcher hearing wind noise asked George if he was following him and George said yeah. The dispatcher ADVISED George that they didn't need him to do that. George said OKAY and stopped trying to follow. George NEVER followed Trayvon after that. According to Trayvon's girlfriend, Trayvon lost George and made it home safe. Then Trayvon decided to go back 100 yards in the dark and the rain to find George. Trayvon confronted assaulted and tried to kill George. George shot Trayvon in self defense to save his own life.
Not Guilty...all woman jury! Legal Point: The defendant thought his life was at stake (threatened)! Facts: a. Defendant had a weapon. 17 yr. old kid had no weapon. b. Defendant pursued 17 yr. old kid after told by dispatch to stay in his car till police arrived. c. Defendant used a concealed weapon (with permit) to shoot the 17 yr. old kid point blank through the heart. Female Jury Statement: "To the best of our ability we find the defendant, Not guilty." All for improving our abilities,
youre right, "neighborhood watch"....he wasnt a cop.....and if the boy did nothing why would u pursue him....u look like a smart man, use common sense.
Sorry, NBC, The Guardian, The Telegraph, and the like do not count, as they don't tend to cite their sources. Try again. Seeing as I can't link everything to you, I can point you to Stefan Molyneux's presentation on the case on this site, he also pointed all the sources of information as well. "The Truth About George Zimmerman and Trayvon Martin " is the video name, by Stefan Molyneux.
Those situations in which someone is beaten to death by an unarmed attacker are rare. In most situations, the two fighters survive. Some may be more injured than others, but for the most part, they live beyond the incident. Judging from Zimmerman's relatively light injuries (only cuts and bruises), it would seem that Zimmerman was still in good enough health to subdue Treyvon without reaching for a gun. Again, involuntary manslaughter.
It CAN be lethal (hence why I said "not many"), but Zimmerman was still able to walk and move about after the fight. So your whole point isn't correct. That alone is evidence his life wasn't in jeopardy and that he did NOT need lethal force to survive. Again, the self defense claim doesn't stand.
¡Wrong again! He's half Equadorian (mother from Ecuador). No wonder so many people come to conclusions without knowing all the facts in a story. Making assumptions doesn't lend any credibility to your argument. Regardless of him being Ecuadorian, being Mexican American myself, I would welcome him with open arms and would support him the best way I'd know how.
So you're implying that justice should be subverted due to fear of public upheaval, perpetrated mostly by people with an entitlement attitude and expect handouts from the government.
Removed my comment, I thought you purposely cut that out. Again, this does not change anything. What you have given me has shown that Zimmerman had reasonable fear of death or great bodily harm. Which I repeatedly told you and explained why he made that choice in shooting Martin.
You seem to have a godlike omnipresence in this matter. Show evidence, or retract your statement. It is simple; Zimmerman approached Trayvon, there was a history of robbery in the area. Zimmerman only investigated on where Trayvon was going, this is one of the responsibilities of the neighbourhood watch. Martin confronted Zimmerman and attacked him, ground and pounded, Zimmerman feared for his life and shot him. You need to look at the current facts, your argument is baseless.
Also the self defense laws allows the person being attacked to create a personal space around him, for obvious reasons. You don't let the attacker get too close to you if you have a gun, as he is within reach of attacking you. Also, I do wonder, did you actually follow the case? Or are you basing your arguments off emotions?
Zimmerman was trained as a police officer, he is a neighbourhood watch captain. You have proven that you have no knowledge on how dispatchers operate. All I can suggest to you is research on this. As far as I am concerned, you're repeating the same lines, it does get boring repeating them.
The state of Florida should be embarrassed! What a disgrace to take this to trial when there is a TON of reasonable doubt! But having said that a jury found Casey Anthoney not guilty when it was beyond a reasonable doubt she killed her own daughter. So, by all logic Zimmerman should easily be found not guilty on all counts I won't put anything pass a dumb jury. But the state itself should of not prosecuted this case to begin with. That's their job. It's shameful.
He's guilty , they even told him "do not follow him". so he looked suspicious because he had a hoodie on , was black , && he was walking throough the neighborhood at night?! seriously hes guilty! r.i.p. trayvon martin you DIDNT deserve this !
They both were, and that is a separate issue on whether to charge him with just homicide, manslaughter, or nothing. But the negligent homicide, still stands.
but Zimmerman did not know about Trayvon's previous altercations or actions. it was based off his hoodie and skinny jeans - sad huh? why pursue someone, provoke them to defend themselves, and then shoot him? that's murder
" Deadly Force may be used to fend off an attacker who is using deadly force but may not be used to repel an attacker who is not using deadly force." Treyvon did not have a weapon and was not the aggressor in this case. Zimmerman was the attacker (in the sense he started the confrontation) and he was carrying a gun. Zimmerman could not reciprocate nondeadly force with a fatal gunshot. Zimmerman could only use nondeadly force in order to claim self defense. Go to the free dictionary website.
Protecting his neighborhood form WHAT? The kid was carrying Skittles, and I doubt Zimmerman feels that strongly about diabetes. He assumed the kid was up to no good, for o reason, started an altercation, and shot him. That could happen to anyone, to your family... just minding their own bussiness, and someone mistakes them for causing trouble and BAM, a young life ended. There is no way, ANY INTELLIGENT PERSON, would think that Zimmerman should not be in prison... at the very least.
Another reason why Zimmers story doesn't make sense is b/c the person crying 4 help is obviosuy too youn to be Zimmerman. Idk how old Zimmerman is, but he middle aged! The man crying for help didn't sound like a middle aged man but that of a 17 y/o. The voice could pass off as a 20 y/o's but not somebody Zimmerman's age.
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George's weight fluctuates about 100 pounds every other week
he looks really square here i read he was wearing a bullet proof vest
Must be his conscience
@@denisemilfort4581it should be in black people's conscience who killed none black race people before ! Oj Simpson Wesley Browne Craig Price Gary Dean Robinson and kevin Templeton oh cowards
George Zimmerman BEFORE 2-26-2012: Non-white minority
Zimmerman post 2-26-2012: White Hispanic
Courtesy: MSNBC, ABC, CBS, NBC, PBS, etc.
He is afroperuavian
He's not white at all. He is mixed.
@Vanessa Ellis Very, very odd way to census racial categories but I get your point. Like most hispanic people though, he is a mixture of white europeans and native americans. Zimmerman's mother is peruvian native american and it shows. You can't mix white paint with brown paint, and then still have the same white paint.
@@daviddurango840 Yeah he is white dummy
@@daviddurango840that's what black race people does it Alot to none black race people alot just for passing by neighborhood areas where's alots of black race people ! Too much assaults ambush follows to stalk and kills ! How bout that !!!!
I hate to say this but...Zimmerman played the game right by playing it safe and quiet.
You are right.
George Zimmerman did nothing wrong that night.
George Zimmerman did nothing unlawful or illegal that night.
Trayvon Martin instigated and escalated the events that led to his death that night.
George Zimmerman was innocent!
Elvis Terry How do you know he didn’t already plan out how everything would turn out and inflict self damage to make it look like self defence
@@lacerav5818 According to Trayvon's girlfriend, Trayvon lost George and made it home safe.
Then Trayvon decided to go back 100 yards in the dark and the rain to find George.
Trayvon confronted George and sucker punched him in the face breaking his nose.
Then Trayvon got George down and straddled him MMA style.
Trayvon started hitting George and banging his head against the concrete.
George took a beating for over a minute while he was yelling for help and no one helped him.
As George was struggling to get loose, his jacket rose up revealing his gun.
George thought that Trayvon was going for his gun so he blocked Trayvon's arm, grabbed his gun and shot Trayvon in the chest, killing him in self defense.
This entire incident took 7 minutes and 21 seconds, from George Zimmerman's call to the non emergency number at 7:09.34 to 7:16.55 when Trayvon was shot.
The 1st officer arrived at 7:17.45.
A couple of the witnesses saw George Zimmerman about 30 seconds after the shot.
George Zimmerman had the following injuries:
2 black eyes
A broken nose
2 gashes on back of head
Abrasions on both sides of head
Various bumps and strike marks on face and head.
Trayvon Martin had no defensive wounds.
Trayvon did have:
A scraped knuckle
A bullet wound
John Good the only eye witness to part of the assault, said that he saw Trayvon Martin on top MMA style, raining down blows, and George Zimmerman on the bottom yelling for help.
If George Zimmerman self inflicted his wounds
@Original Content According to Trayvon's girlfriend, Trayvon lost George and made it home safe.
Then Trayvon decided to go back 100 yards in the dark and the rain to find George.
Trayvon confronted George and sucker punched him in the face breaking his nose.
Then Trayvon got George down and straddled him MMA style.
Trayvon started hitting George and banging his head against the concrete.
George took a beating for over a minute while he was yelling for help and no one helped him.
As George was struggling to get loose, his jacket rose up revealing his gun.
George thought that Trayvon was going for his gun so he blocked Trayvon's arm, grabbed his gun and shot Trayvon in the chest killing him in self defense.
If Trayvon had minded his own business then he would have lived.
Trayvon Martin instigated and escalated the events that led to his death that night.
George Zimmerman did nothing unlawful or illegal that night.
George Zimmerman was innocent!
@Original Content George Zimmerman has never been convicted of any crimes.
George was either found not guilty or the person admitted that they lied.
No crimes!
"dead through no fault of his own" except for jumping on top of zimmerman and slamming his head against the concrete after doubling back 100 yards to go attack him.
Graham Hardie could’ve been avoided if he dint get off his car to follow like he was told to do
@@bryanb6016 George Zimmerman did nothing wrong that night.
George Zimmerman did nothing unlawful or illegal that night.
Trayvon Martin instigated and escalated the events that led to his death that night.
Wow sounds like you guys were there? Oh no you weren't were you? So shut the fuck up and stop acting like you know exactly how this happened
@@aaronkaufenberg799 You are one whiny little bitch aren't you!
Go find a safe place and have a good cry.
@@aaronkaufenberg799 Wow it sounds like you are a complete idiot.
You can still die. People die by being punched once. Zimmerman withstood atleast 3 punches. According to a physician, he had 2 black eyes and a broken nose. Lacerations on the back of the head may be where Martin is pounding him to a pavement.
Being hit on the back of the head against anything solid can be lethal, or can leave to permanent injury, mental or physical.
Race shouldnt be a part of the suspicion, or even a subject.. it always clouds the facts
Well you’re clearly very ignorant, at best
@@austinadjutant5684 the mob was clearly wrong with oj. But keep on .. be igno ..
Stfu
Then why was the jury not made up of 12 black people.
@@mhm7011 you realize Zimmerman is Latino yeah? Lololololol
im sorry but the prosecutor was simply terrible at his job, they should have hired a better lawyer
Sad part is that this prosecutor was one of the best in the country. This trial was a joke to appease the racists in the black community.
It was a no win case.
@@truthonly5716the same dam thing that happens to none black race people alot by black race people alot just for passing by neighborhood areas where's alots of black race
How does the prosecutors lose a case as simple as this one.
A grown ass man has no probable cause and no right to follow a kid, calls the police and is told not to follow him, ignores the advice and follows him while armed with a lethal weapon.
The outcome is a physical fight that he provoked, then by his own decision decides to use lethal force because he claims a 17 year old is stronger than him and can kill him with his bare hands.
The kid had candy in his hand, his father lived in that community, he was walking back from a 7/11.
How the justice system became so inefficient , it's almost laughable if the kid didn't died.
Zimmerman was on the ground and his skull seemed to have been slammed into the concrete. If someone threw a brick at your head you are justified to use lethal force.
The following of Trayvon is not illegal is it was a public space.
@@JChang0114 So if I decide to follow you while you walk to your home it's ok because it's not illegal in public, I provoke a fight with you because for whatever reason in my mind you look suspicious , yet I have no probable cause and I am not in law enforcement to make that decision but I regardless make that decision, the outcome is you get agitated at me because I am harassing you but in my mind I am justified in doing so because is legal, we engaged in a fight and you beat me up , me having a gun don't know if you would kill me with your bare hands because you already smack my head in the ground so I decided to shoot you and kill you.
does that sound right to you?
@@jerome0929
"So if I decide to follow you while you walk to your home it's ok because it's not illegal in public,"
Yes.
"I provoke a fight with you because for whatever reason in my mind you look suspicious"
Speculation. The rest of the scenario is pure speculation. We don't know who provoked a fight with who.
@@JChang0114 If you're following someone against his desires after the police told you not to, you provoke whatever outcome comes out of your actions! it's common fucking sense!
@@jerome0929 The police never told Zimmerman anything. The dispatcher is they same as any man and just a glorified telephone operator.
Following someone does not provoke anything. It's a public street and people can walk down any path they choose.
He was found not guilty
@Fact Checker just say you’re racist and go on
@Fact Checker you’re happy that a man got off free for killing a black boy
@Fact Checker just asking a question.
How did this make you happy?
@@kjs257incpen3racist is in black race people Also but black race people gets away by playing the race card !!!
You're so upset about George Zimmerman breaking the law, that you attempt to quote mine in an attempt to make Zimmerman guilty.
It states specifically on the individual being attacked to PREVENT imminent death or great bodily harm. Also it clearly states to prevent the imminent commission of a forcible felony.
If Martin was alive, he would've definitely have been charged for felony battery for repeatedly attacking Zimmerman, regardless whether Zimmerman was dead or severely injured.
Is that dr phill
Rachel Jeantel's thoughtless testimony is what prejudiced the jury against Trayvon Martin, and ultimately cleared George Zimmerman of any wrong doing. Her arrogance, smart alec remarks and thoughtless words are what got that cold-blooded murderer off the hook.
Totally True I Get Called Names All The Time... But I Dnt Let It define Me
If the doctor wrote the wrong dosage, it's negligent homicide. An airline mechanic can legally fix a plane. If he screws up and it crashes, it's negligent homicide. If the neighborhood watch leader screws up and kills an innocent person instead of a criminal, it's negligent homicide.
Except Zimmerman would never follow someone if he didn't have a gun and you're ignoring his mindset that night so your theory is implausible. The bruises on Trayvon would have surfaced if he lived long enough for his blood to do it's thing. Zimmerman has contradicted himself so many times that I wouldn't believe a word out of his mouth and the totality of the evidence points to his guilt.
Why didn't you testify in trial As an expert what bruises would trayvon Martin have and what evidence do you have that Zimmerman ever assaulted trevon. Zimmerman's inconsistencies were extremely minor
LOL, *WRONG*
Trayvon was a punk ass thug
@@hilltop4847 JUST HUSH AT THIS POINT
@@kjs257incpen3 I guess another positive that came out of this case (besides an ironclad self defense case) is the fact that the little trouble maker Trayvon has been felony-free for a little over 10 years!
"essentially a white man, he identifies as a white male" 😂🤣
Really where'd you get that
@@onewildandcrazyguy9213 7:10
That's stupid how did George Zimmerman know that Trayvon was 17 it was dark and he could have been 30 wtf
He could
Have not shot an unarmed man or follow the polices advice and mind his own business that young man would still be alive today .
@@denisemilfort4581that's how black race people does it Alot to none black race people alot just for passing by neighborhood areas where's alots of black race !! Nobody never talks about that !!!
I'm glad that George Zimmerman was found not guilty. I was mugged twice at knifepoint in my life and each attacker was a young black male. Does that have anything to do with how I feel? You bet it does!
If it's true you were mugged at knifepoint by a young black male then why would you compare your experience with this? Was Zimmerman mugged? Was he being robbed? Was he being followed? If this incident happened at this present political/social climate I bet you Zimmerman will have a new "residence" where he will be told what to do- for at least 20 years
Zimmerman was the one who started it. He followed him when the dispatcher said not to. And he was the one who approached. And Martin felt threatened. I think everybody would feel threatened if they were in the same situations
Definitely. Poor baby poor. I don't know how his parents felt RIP
That's what black race people does it Alot to none black race people alot just for passing by neighborhood areas where's alots of black !! Why's that nobody talks about that cause it turns into race cards !!!
What message does this verdict send out to the whole country: If you feel threatened you can....somebody. Our society is so civilized, got to love it.
.... He was unarmed. Walking home with a bag of skittles and iced tea.
Stand your ground
Why are you gonna cry for help when you got a gun on you(a lethal weapon),he persued him in the 1st place because he knew he had a gun on him.
He didnt even care if Trayvon had a gun or not,he wanted him..and he wanted him badly.
Why should they arrive at that verdict. Self defence can not be ruled out.
2:40 I wouldn’t trust Detective Gumshoe with those
We don't trust black police officers neither especially black police officers takes up for black race people and becomes all undenials for black individuals !!! How bout that !!!
I don't trust black police officers either cause black cops takes up for black individuals and becomes all undenials
I'm a proud Hispanic American but i want him in jail the phone call with the dispatcher specifically told him to NOT follow Trayvon and he did
How bout whenever a none black race people Hispanic or White Caucasian gets mugg follow by black race and kill by black race people alot just for passing by neighborhood areas where's alots of black !! Nobody talks about that !!!
He killed that young boy he need to tell the truth about that night
But he won’t, he even tried selling the gun he killed Martin with. He has no remorse.
He killed him, yes. Murder, no. Look into it further.
@@pitshants132 it was murder dummy
@@gem4036neither oj Simpson never has remorse ! Craig Price never has remorse only coward minds
The prosecution was never able to disprove Zimmerman's claim of self defense. It was the right verdict in that sense.
Man my little brother was 17 when this happened, I would be heartbroken if that had been him. I hope his family gets justice, their teenaged son is gone for good.
Hope your Lil brother ain’t out there at night thuggin R.I.P
PABLO VALDEZ Trolls are so lame and miserable, it’s not to late for you to get a life man. Everyday is a new beginning.
UTubeuzername84 still haven’t grown up and realised George was in the right after 7 years? Sad.
Pro tip don't be a violent thug. 🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@regginfloyd5169 Just say you’re racist and go on
The young kid attacks Zimmerman , who defends himself. Dont act like the 17 year old ain't got no blame here. I see these young bucks starting fights all the time. Trevon tried to beat Zimmerman up and so he ended up getting shot. If trevon hadn't attacked he'd still be alive. Period.
UNARMED Kid dead, Zimmerman's bullet = Guilty
It's negligent homicide. Mistakenly going after an innocent person as neighborhood watch leader and the innocent person winds up dead, is negligent homicide. Stand your ground is a separate issue. The root of the problem was a deliberate mistake not an accident.
3:31 this mans hairline looks like a puzzle piece
Yo you didnt have to flame mans like that
😆😆😆
You think now the media will show a updated picture of Trayvon and not one when he was 12 years old?
don west sounds and looks like walter white lol.
It's so lame and transparent: The prosecutor says Zimmerman "profiled a young boy with Skittles". The fact is, when he first saw him, all he saw was a figure in a hoodie. That's it. There was no way to know how old he was, nor what he was carrying. The jury would have to be plain stupid to be swayed by nonsensical wordplay like this.
thats racist?!?!
Racist is in black people's Also !! It doesn't make black race perfect either !!!
I believe they both are at fault
One for racial profiling
One for turning to violence
Word on the street was George Zimmerman tried to detain Martin until the police arrived.
@@INCHRIST3 Exactly
It really sickens me people think hes innocent in the audio of a caller you can here Martin screaming at the top of his lungs "help" and then a gunshot
@ JuliusC They could say the same about you.
I wish Snowden would leak the call between Trayvon and Jeantel.
His lawyer needs to go back to manufacturing meth.
Also Cochran needs to be educated oh street as
I don't get why Prosecutors get to shout toward and call names directly to and point at Defendants, who can't do anything but sit there and take it per the rules of court procedure. The rules of court proceedings shouldn't allow for this sort of completely unfair histrionics.
That Trayvon would've had bruises is complete conjecture, and the injuries sustained by Zimmerman point against the fight being any kind of even exchange.
The jury acquitted Zimmerman after presented the evidence in which you claim he's lying, and that's without admitting evidence that would further reduce Trayvon's credibility.
Zimmerman thought Trayvon looked suspicious and had reason to. You have no reason to think that Zimmerman had any intention of confronting Trayvon; that's your own bias.
A kid looks suspicious on the phone, eating Skittles, and a hoodie on?
So a kid wearing a hoodie eating skittles is suspicious
Dispatchers work closely with police. They give instructions about what to do, what's happening and so forth. Zimmerman was not a cop. His ass was a neighborhood watchman. He had as much authority as a mall security guard.
Finally someone who speaks the truth, Thank you!
Come again?
if TM was so freaked about being followed, why didn't he call the police? oh, thats right, he was too busy attacking GZ!! time to free GZ!!! TM wanted to live a thug life and paid the thug price!!!
If you live in a supposed to be 'safe' gated neighbourhood, and in one year 8 houses get broken into, you get vigilant. Kids live there too.. protection is failing and the police can't seem to do anything.
So yeah you make the wrong call one day to start a neighborhood watch and in bad judgment try to stop who you think is the next thug. After getting smashed to the concrete for it though, kicked to the head repeatedly (2 skull lacerations and broken nose on record), you point and fire in fear of never seeing another day or familiar face ever again.
This makes you a human being who f*ed up, paying for it knowing and feeling you killed an innocent kid, like the ones you tried to protect in the first place, to live. That is your sentence. What happened up to the verdict and now still in comments found here, is a glimpse of how humanity is slowly losing touch with itself and reality more and more.
There are a few strong arguments in what you said. But I respectfully disagree with your verdict.
There are so many different ways that scenario could have ended. There is also a beginning and several middle parts to the story. It's important to stick to the facts.
Zimmerman is not the victim. He is the one who made the initial decisions that led to the death of Trayvon Martin. He was the instigator in this case.
pt2. The defendant was armed. The victim was not. There is no evidence to support the defendant had any
reason to believe the victim posed him any personal harm until he approached the victim and harassed him. There is evidence that the victim beat his aggressor about the head.
But this never would have occurred if Zimmerman had called the police instead. Sure, maybe he was worried the police would show up and shoot the kid dead immediately. That's a valid concern. But I doubt that was what prevented him from doing so. Point is, Zimmerman should have been found guilty of Manslaughter in the Second Degree at worst, in the First at best. He did it. So did OJ.
raggedthistle I don't know if you follow the sport of MMA, I do. The 'victim' in this case being a trained mixed martial artist, was armed in that way and took the defendant down to the pavement and started "ground and pounding" away.That definetely poses a personal harm, you don't break your nose and get two cuts on your head over nothing. That all happened before the shot.
No matter how they got to that situation, an untrained person against a trained MMA fighter, unable to move, in fear of getting beaten to death, shot the gun to protect his life. At least that's how I'll see it until someone can convince me otherwise. All this media hyperbole about backgrounds, racism, noise and static is just adding more and more confusion around it all.
@diln chil Your intelligence is a shining light in this world of darkness and blind hatred.
I applaud you.
@ace toxic The following was brought out at the trial and NEVER disproven:
George Zimmerman was on his way to the store when he saw Trayvon Martin walking on the grass and looking at a house that had been broken into recently.
George drove past and parked at the clubhouse while he called the non emergency number.
Trayvon saw George sitting in his truck, talking on the phone and watching him.
Trayvon told his girlfriend that a guy was watching him.
Trayvon walked past George and down Twin Tree Lane.
George lost sight of Trayvon so he drove down Twin Tree Lane and parked at the cut through.
Trayvon saw George driving down Twin Tree Lane and he told his girlfriend that the guy was following him.
Trayvon's girlfriend told him to run and Trayvon ran south towards the back gate.
After Trayvon ran south towards the back gate, George got out of his truck and tried to follow in the direction that Trayvon ran.
About 15 seconds later, the dispatcher hearing wind noise asked George if he was following him and George said yeah.
The dispatcher advised George that they didn't need him to do that.
George said okay and STOPPED following in the direction that Trayvon ran.
Even though Trayvon ran south towards the back gate, George walked east to the next street as he continued to talk to the dispatcher for another minute and a half.
When Trayvon ran south towards the back gate, he was on the phone with his girlfriend and the call got disconnected.
Trayvon's girlfriend called him back and Trayvon told her that he had lost the guy and he was at his daddy's fiancee's house in the back.
This was almost 100 yards south of where Trayvon would eventually confront George 3 1/2 minutes later.
According to Trayvon's girlfriend, Trayvon lost George and made it home. Did he go inside the house?
No, Trayvon decided to go back 100 yards in the dark and the rain to find George.
Trayvon confronted George and sucker punched him in the face.
Then Trayvon got George down and straddled him MMA style. Trayvon started hitting George and banging his head against the concrete.
George took a beating for over a minute while he was yelling for help and no one helped him.
As George was struggling to get loose, his jacket rose up revealing his gun.
George thought that Trayvon was going for his gun so he blocked Trayvon's arm, grabbed his gun and shot Trayvon in the chest killing him in self defense.
Is that sentence meant to be used to show that Zimmerman is guilty? It has little meaning if it does.
Dispatchers are only, and I will repeat, *Only* there to advise, and give information, they are not able to give orders.
Dispatchers are there to give advise between cops and the caller. If you don't like that then I don't know how else to explain to you the use of a dispatcher.
The Zim was the victim. He was right to assume the perp was a criminal.
Wtf never assume!!!
@@kitteekittee4010 Even Trayvon's girlfriend proved that Trayvon instigated and escalated the events that led to his death that night.
@@truthonly5716 i just heard about all this, but the comments you put are amusing lol poor kid though, didn't deserve to die like that. keep being funny :D
@@yendementia9018 Since you don't really know anything, I will enlighten you.
The following was brought out at the trial and NEVER disproven:
George Zimmerman was on his way to the store when he saw Trayvon Martin walking on the grass and looking at a house that had been broken into recently.
George drove past and parked at the clubhouse while he called the non emergency number.
Trayvon saw George sitting in his truck, talking on the phone and watching him.
Trayvon told his girlfriend that a guy was watching him.
Trayvon walked past George and down Twin Trees Lane.
George lost sight of Trayvon so he drove down Twin Trees Lane and parked at the cut through.
Trayvon saw George driving down Twin Trees Lane and he told his girlfriend that the guy was following him.
Trayvon's girlfriend told him to run and Trayvon ran south towards the back gate.
After Trayvon ran south towards the back gate, George got out of his truck and tried to follow in the direction that he had seen Trayvon run.
About 15 SECONDS later, the dispatcher hearing wind noise asked George if he was following him and George said yeah.
The dispatcher advised George that they didn't need him to do that.
George said okay, and stopped trying to follow in the direction that he had seen Trayvon run.
Even though Trayvon ran south towards the back gate, George walked east to the next street as he continued to talk to the dispatcher for another minute and a half.
When Trayvon ran south towards the back gate, he was on the phone with his girlfriend and the call got disconnected.
Trayvon's girlfriend called him back and Trayvon told her that he had lost the guy and he was right by his daddy's fiancee's house in the back.
This was almost 100 yards south of where Trayvon would eventually confront George Zimmerman 3 1/2 minutes later.
According to Trayvon's girlfriend, Trayvon lost George and made it home safe.
Then Trayvon decided to go back 100 yards in the dark and the rain to find George.
Trayvon confronted George and sucker punched him in the face breaking his nose.
Then Trayvon got George down and straddled him MMA style.
Trayvon started hitting George and banging his head against the concrete.
George took a beating for over a minute while he was yelling for help and no one helped him.
As George was struggling to get loose, his jacket rose up revealing his gun.
George thought that Trayvon was going for his gun so he blocked Trayvon's arm, grabbed his gun and shot Trayvon in the chest killing him in self defense.
When Trayvon Martin committed felony assault on George Zimmerman and wouldn't stop even though George Zimmerman was yelling for help, that is when Trayvon Martin deserved to die.
@@truthonly5716 Damn xD you're on point with a response it seems. Glad you have this stuff on hand for some reason :D Someone needs to keep records of what happens. Though, it's my admant opinion that nobody should /deserve/ to die. Arrested? Beaten in return? Whatever.
But the kid was still just murdered, the reasons for his death may be self defense if that's truly what happened. Should the guy have had more than a slap on the wrist and time wasted done to him? Of course, but i'd just say things got heated, and a gun was pulled and probably fired without much premeditated thought.
Regardless, the poor kid didn't live to see adulthood. thank you though for responding, I had no idea you would. You just amused me with your constant same responses lol
Dispatchers cannot give lawful orders.
Have you read the Dispatcher training manual? No? Here's the sentence of the Dispatcher's duty.
"Remember that you simply provide information to the officers about what is happening and where. You do not "order" officers to go somewhere or to do something." -- 911dispatch
Please read the full transcript of the dispatch as well before you make comments on RUclips. Thanks.
Could you even imagine this wannabe cop George following you around where you live when you’re doing nothing wrong?.... Even the 911 operator told him to leave it alone! If George did what he was instructed to do this kid would still be alive. George deserves life in prison.
Jeez man, 7 years later and you still can’t get the narrative right?
@@ktrigg2 What’d that person get incorrect
My friend, having the back of your head hit on concrete and receiving lacerations is not light. Nor is a broken nose a light injury, keep in mind, the back of your head is vulnerable.
Again, you're basing your views of what you see, and not what the actual qualified doctors see.
Also self-defense law permits it, stop pretending that you know the self-defense law, as you clearly shown that you don't know how it works, nor do you know the justification of it.
If only L were real, this case would of easily been solved as soon as it hit media.
Disobeying a suggestion from a police officer is not a crime. speculation is not proof.
Obviously not guilty, good job jurors
calling someone racist while being racist LOL
Oof
Fuck you
@@mickclocks9799 STFU you whiny little bitch.
@@jamalcarvery4665 We already know that you are an ignorant racist bitch.
I wouldn't. I would turn around and ask the man who was following me, why he was doing that, and tell him I had nothing on me besides some candy and beverages. In most situations, the person following you would then leave you alone. If not, then you do have the right to get hostile and defend yourself.
I hate racism, I hate guns. I think the reason tragedys like this happen is because it's legal to carry a firearm in America with a simple permit. Here in the uk guns are illegal you get people who break the law and do it anyway everywhere but in this case.... Neighbours were too afraid to leave their houses and go help. Why? Because of fear of being shot dead. They should ban guns in America how many more youths and people in general are going to have to die before people see the real issues here? How can they suggest there was zero racial profiling he was a young African-American walking home from the shops? A vehicle pulls slowly along side him trailing him now regardless of that being legal etc. over here if a grown man was trailing a 17 year old who wouldn't run? We were always brought up to avoid and run. So why was this boy any different. How could Zimmerman say the boy wasn't afraid in a previous interview I watched on him. How does he know how he felt in those moments he is not him? It's always going to be maybes and what ifs. But what really matters is a child lost his life whether he was being violent or not I struggle to understand how a grown man couldn't fight off a child without the final resort of killing him? It's a choice we all have one he could have thrown him with force and ran. Even the mere sight of a gun would have been enough but to just kill him? The justice system is messed up there is always a way maybe if there was no guns neighbours could have came out and separated it and the boy would be alive to tell his side but of course he is not. I understand if people are terrified and threatened into defending themselves in frightening circumstances but I just struggle to see how a young skinny 17 year old would put the fear of God into a grown man unarmed and why was we even carrying a gun on watch in the first place? Why didn't he just go back to his car let the police handle it? System is corrupt. If I was following a young boy who seemed to oppose a threat I'd be away no way would I just walk on through knowing he's seen me and knows I've been following him. Minor details don't add up but then we will never know the truth only the verdict that has been decided & Zimmerman himself. He also said he wouldn't change it because it's gods will ... Fate. He has Catholic religious beliefs. Well the Catholic faith does not condone killing of any kind so how can it be the work of God? how can he truly believe that? .... I'm sure he will find out that answer himself one day. This has just paved the way for others to shoot people claim self defence and go scot free. Like I said justice system is a joke! The fact he went out with a firearm and pin pointed him etc should be cause for something. Very very wrong! I hope it didn't cause a divide in the racial aspect of things because I myself are white and it wouldn't matter to me what colour of skin the youth had I would still feel the same there was no need to kill. I myself would rather die than live with killing a child. Maybe that's weird but just how I feel!
Guns are there to PROTECT US from the government, you know that the 3rd(in the world) most death are by government stop being a sheep. Plus gun save WAY MORE life's then they kill it's not even CLOSE
if he wanted to defend his self he would have just walked away. his job as neighborhood watch does not include having a gun or even approching the suspect. hence the watch in neighborhood watch.
MY HERO
Beni88man your hero hiding every day lol
@@catherineconteh3692 George Zimmerman did nothing wrong that night.
George Zimmerman did nothing unlawful or illegal that night.
Trayvon Martin instigated and escalated the events that led to his death that night.
Trayvon Martin was at fault.
George Zimmerman was innocent.
Elvis Terry first of all let me explain to you what instigation means. Gz was in his car and was not followed by Tm and if you can listen when Zimmerman call the cops they told him not to follow the boy but he did and you are there saying the 17 year old boy instigate it what kind of human being are you that boy was screaming for help in the video clearly showing that he knows his life was about to be taken by someone that doesn't even knows him and you think Zimmerman is innocent someone with a gun and older person you know what i will say to you pray one day that you will not meet someone that hate you for no reason and decide to end you in a hateful manner like that and at the end of the day they let him walk free and let me see and know how your soul will feel after that
Elvis Terry we all going to die one day but you don't know how and when God say judge not so you will not be judge but i this case you decide to defend a coldkiller like Zimmerman and do you know the law of karma anything you serve the world it will get back to you in due time if you see Zimmerman as a innocent person well it will be a day that someone else out there will harm you and other people will see that person innocent too i always say if you think you mean there is always someone out there that is more ruthless than you so go ahead and support coldkiller like Zimmerman and it will be your turn one day and if it was you that got killed like that will you be happy will your soul be happy to let your killer walk free i dont think you
@@catherineconteh3692 Your problem is that you know nothing about what happened that night, so you lie.
You can't prove that George Zimmerman did anything illegal or unlawful that night.
God will judge you for your lies.
All liars will be cast into the lake of fire.
God will judge George Zimmerman and Travon Martin for what happened that night.
Trayvon Martin attacked George Zimmerman and tried to kill George Zimmerman.
George shot Trayvon to save his own life.
Self defense is NOT murder.
Space has nothing to do with it. It depends solely on the "proportionality" of the attacker/defender. If the attacker is using non-lethal force, you cannot reciprocate it with deadly force. When you think about it, this makes sense why it was written into law. If someone pushes you, does that give you the right to pull out a pistol and shoot them dead? No. Sure, you may have FELT like you were being threatened, but your life wasn't in danger from a mere shove. So you can't claim self-defense.
Zimmerman for President...2020!
I will vote for him
Me too
God is all knowing. He was told to stay in the car. He is not a police officer.
@@quietstorm677 Exactly
@A Ad is he a hero for murdering a unarmed teenager because of his race? Dead man tell no tales, that's what makes this perp get away with his crime of a one sided story that no one else will ever know. I'm sure he'll get what's coming for him, murderers always do
@@quietstorm677 George Zimmerman was not told to stay in his car.
George Zimmerman was appointed to be the neighborhood watch captain of the community
George Zimmerman did nothing wrong that night.
George Zimmerman did nothing unlawful or illegal that night.
Trayvon Martin instigated and escalated the events that led to his death that night.
George Zimmerman was innocent!
But when it results in death of the innocent, it's negligent homicide. It's legal for a doctor to prescribe medication. If it kills you, it's negligent homicide. So, it was a mistake.
7:13 white male? Haha... yeah maybe his ancestors are vikings as well..? He looks hispanic.
White and Hispanic females should NOT get with black men either !!
99% of the time.If someone was doing that it would be with hostile intention.It is very polite.But don't follow that mandate.Martin had no idea why he was being followed by a grown man twice his size.Think logically.It was a bad neighbourhood.So,Trevor thought for the worst.I would've probably done the same thing.
i think he is guilty of 2nd degree murder, all the evidence clearly proves it, along with all the lies GZ told, like claiming his screams were silenced by the gunshot heard in a 911 call.
Guilty! The dispatcher told him to stop following and he carried on! 6 female jurors! what race are they?
The female jurors were more than likely selected by the prosecution. Women are more willing to be empathetic and envision Trayvon being there own son, brother, etc.
"The dispatcher told him to stop following and he carried on!"
WRONG! NO HE DIDN'T!
After Trayvon ran south, the dispatcher asked George which way he had run.
Then George got out of his truck and tried to follow in the direction that he had seen Trayvon run.
About 15 SECONDS later, the dispatcher hearing wind noise asked George if he was following him and George said yeah.
The dispatcher ADVISED George that they didn't need him to do that.
George said OKAY and stopped trying to follow.
George NEVER followed Trayvon after that.
According to Trayvon's girlfriend, Trayvon lost George and made it home safe.
Then Trayvon decided to go back 100 yards in the dark and the rain to find George.
Trayvon confronted assaulted and tried to kill George.
George shot Trayvon in self defense to save his own life.
And what if you're wrong? You get off scott free? What if someone thought you were looking a little dangerous?
Why didn't George Zimmerman testify? It probably could've help his case a little.
So, you wouldn't consider that pinning someone on the ground, repeatedly punching / smashing Zimmerman to a solid ground not considered deadly force?
Not Guilty...all woman jury!
Legal Point: The defendant thought his life was at stake (threatened)!
Facts:
a. Defendant had a weapon. 17 yr. old kid had no weapon.
b. Defendant pursued 17 yr. old kid after told by dispatch
to stay in his car till police arrived.
c. Defendant used a concealed weapon (with permit)
to shoot the 17 yr. old kid point blank through the heart.
Female Jury Statement:
"To the best of our ability we find the defendant, Not guilty."
All for improving our abilities,
youre right, "neighborhood watch"....he wasnt a cop.....and if the boy did nothing why would u pursue him....u look like a smart man, use common sense.
Poorly trained lawyer, still guilty
He instigated the confrontation, I think he is guilty.
Sorry, NBC, The Guardian, The Telegraph, and the like do not count, as they don't tend to cite their sources.
Try again.
Seeing as I can't link everything to you, I can point you to Stefan Molyneux's presentation on the case on this site, he also pointed all the sources of information as well.
"The Truth About George Zimmerman and Trayvon Martin " is the video name, by Stefan Molyneux.
No matter how we look at this, a person is now dead because of another man’s actions.
Those situations in which someone is beaten to death by an unarmed attacker are rare. In most situations, the two fighters survive. Some may be more injured than others, but for the most part, they live beyond the incident. Judging from Zimmerman's relatively light injuries (only cuts and bruises), it would seem that Zimmerman was still in good enough health to subdue Treyvon without reaching for a gun. Again, involuntary manslaughter.
Yours is the only life you get to wager on it, Zimmerman acted in self defense
It's not sympathy for a thug. It's sympathy for someone who was murdered.
It CAN be lethal (hence why I said "not many"), but Zimmerman was still able to walk and move about after the fight. So your whole point isn't correct. That alone is evidence his life wasn't in jeopardy and that he did NOT need lethal force to survive. Again, the self defense claim doesn't stand.
¡Wrong again! He's half Equadorian (mother from Ecuador). No wonder so many people come to conclusions without knowing all the facts in a story. Making assumptions doesn't lend any credibility to your argument. Regardless of him being Ecuadorian, being Mexican American myself, I would welcome him with open arms and would support him the best way I'd know how.
Zimmerman was guilty; the prosecution did such a horrid job on this.
When you're are wrongly treated like a potential burglar, wouled you feel afraid of the accuser or furious/outraged? TM was pissed, not afraid.
So you're implying that justice should be subverted due to fear of public upheaval, perpetrated mostly by people with an entitlement attitude and expect handouts from the government.
Removed my comment, I thought you purposely cut that out.
Again, this does not change anything. What you have given me has shown that Zimmerman had reasonable fear of death or great bodily harm. Which I repeatedly told you and explained why he made that choice in shooting Martin.
You seem to have a godlike omnipresence in this matter. Show evidence, or retract your statement.
It is simple;
Zimmerman approached Trayvon, there was a history of robbery in the area. Zimmerman only investigated on where Trayvon was going, this is one of the responsibilities of the neighbourhood watch.
Martin confronted Zimmerman and attacked him, ground and pounded, Zimmerman feared for his life and shot him.
You need to look at the current facts, your argument is baseless.
Also the self defense laws allows the person being attacked to create a personal space around him, for obvious reasons. You don't let the attacker get too close to you if you have a gun, as he is within reach of attacking you.
Also, I do wonder, did you actually follow the case? Or are you basing your arguments off emotions?
Zimmerman was trained as a police officer, he is a neighbourhood watch captain.
You have proven that you have no knowledge on how dispatchers operate. All I can suggest to you is research on this. As far as I am concerned, you're repeating the same lines, it does get boring repeating them.
The state of Florida should be embarrassed! What a disgrace to take this to trial when there is a TON of reasonable doubt! But having said that a jury found Casey Anthoney not guilty when it was beyond a reasonable doubt she killed her own daughter. So, by all logic Zimmerman should easily be found not guilty on all counts I won't put anything pass a dumb jury. But the state itself should of not prosecuted this case to begin with. That's their job. It's shameful.
He's guilty , they even told him "do not follow him". so he looked suspicious because he had a hoodie on , was black , && he was walking throough the neighborhood at night?! seriously hes guilty! r.i.p. trayvon martin you DIDNT deserve this !
I disagree i think he DID racially profile someone but that does not make all of his supporters racist.
Even tho George Zimmerman was found not guilty his life will never be the same.
Neither oj Simpson his life would not be the same ! Neither Wesley Browne the coward Seria killer's his life would not be the same at all !!!!
They both were, and that is a separate issue on whether to charge him with just homicide, manslaughter, or nothing. But the negligent homicide, still stands.
If Casey Anthony or OJ could be acquitted so could anybody
but Zimmerman did not know about Trayvon's previous altercations or actions. it was based off his hoodie and skinny jeans - sad huh? why pursue someone, provoke them to defend themselves, and then shoot him? that's murder
" Deadly Force may be used to fend off an attacker who is using deadly force but may not be used to repel an attacker who is not using deadly force."
Treyvon did not have a weapon and was not the aggressor in this case. Zimmerman was the attacker (in the sense he started the confrontation) and he was carrying a gun. Zimmerman could not reciprocate nondeadly force with a fatal gunshot. Zimmerman could only use nondeadly force in order to claim self defense.
Go to the free dictionary website.
East LA, Gardena, Compton, South Central.........
But Compton are double faces and back stabb East. L. A people
OFFICERS!
Zimmerman was NOT a cop!
Neither black race people are not cops to stalk on none black race people just for passing by neighborhood areas
Protecting his neighborhood form WHAT? The kid was carrying Skittles, and I doubt Zimmerman feels that strongly about diabetes. He assumed the kid was up to no good, for o reason, started an altercation, and shot him. That could happen to anyone, to your family... just minding their own bussiness, and someone mistakes them for causing trouble and BAM, a young life ended. There is no way, ANY INTELLIGENT PERSON, would think that Zimmerman should not be in prison... at the very least.
Another reason why Zimmers story doesn't make sense is b/c the person crying 4 help is obviosuy too youn to be Zimmerman. Idk how old Zimmerman is, but he middle aged! The man crying for help didn't sound like a middle aged man but that of a 17 y/o. The voice could pass off as a 20 y/o's but not somebody Zimmerman's age.
This is how corrupt the law enforcement is
The defense lawyer is ridiculous.
Same with black lawyers which are liers that becomes undenials for black individuals