Yeah, you're also in and out of this thing in around 8-10 hours. It's fun but ultimately not the deepest experience so it's somewhat brief campaign (brief by today's standards) helps it not out stay it's welcome. I paid 36 bucks for it, enjoyed it while I was playing it and will probably never come back to it but I'm fine with it. I miss games like this, they remind of mid budget stuff you'd grab at a rental store in the early 2000's for the PS2.
@@devilmikey00 it's 15 hours if you complete all side quests, it's not brief by today's standards, Dead Space remake was 14 hours with side quests and The Callisto Protocol is just 10 hours.
RoboCop is one of the surprises of the year. Reminds me of one of the many gems you'd find on the PS3 and 360 back in the day but with higher production values.
Considering the size of the team and how much of the new tech they are using, this is really impressive! I hope they do some further patches and tweaks as this is a real showpiece of AA devs punching well above their weight.
Its bizarre, it was always implied that UE5 would make it easier for smaller devs to achieve AAA graphical quality, yet its the AAA struggling with it. I wonder why that is? I wonder if they are too reliant on their old workflows rather than adapting to how UE5 is designed to be used?
@@alexatkinunreal engine titles always do better with smaller maps or individual levels. Unreal engine does not work well at all in open world titles and developers struggle with it constantly. Pretty much every unreal 4 title that's open world struggles with performance
@@alexatkin thats exactly why, bigger studios will stick to older workflows because it saves money, with a smaller studio/team you can have a bit more freedom in the pipeline when it comes to building your world and using newer techniques
If they patch faces, then it gonna look spectacular cause now game looks like mixed real life graphics with PS3 or sometimes PS2 in terms of facial animations 😅
@@kiaranr A jobber is just there to have an easy job doing nothing except maybe typing all day on social media about their real (most likely misguided) passions. It's opposed to; someone with a passion for making games and gets a job in the industry to make their passion projects.
We seriously need more games like this. Sure, it's no Red Dead or GTA, but it's a competent product clearly done with passion and not for numbers. These sorts of games were plentiful two generations ago, but now so many devs either rush games out the door or are too ambitious for their own good.
@@baronsengir187 Lows of 27fps in performance mode on series x is absolutely shamefull. You cannot even defend it. I have yet to see a single UE5 game to run half decent on modern hardware
Would you believe this is the same studio that made the awful Rambo videogame in about 2016? Can we give these people some kind of "outstanding improvement" award? Because they deserve it.
@TheGOAT-hj6sl The only troll is you if you think TLOU2 is a technically inferior game of some kind. The story is dismissable imo, but the tech is solid
I genuinely hope this sells well. These guys poured their hearts into Terminator Resistance. And now this looks amazing...i want these guys to have enough support to tackle their next project. Im more excited about this team and ones like Halousemarque than i am with the ones pumping out "AAA" games these days.
After Terminator Resistance seemingly becoming a cult classic (as critics railed it) I really hope Robocop puts Teyon on the map for something with a larger budget - they’re really outdoing themselves after the failure that was Rambo: The Video Game
Couldn't agree more, you can find faults in it, for sure, but overall, they have provided some of the best Movie License games, without counting the Rambo On-rail shooter, that was a tough one to sit through.
@@alex.starostin the shooting wasn't great but the story and atmosphere was everything we should've gotten in Terminator 3 or any of the lousy sequels after 2
Terminator Resistance was a nice surprise to me. It wasn't perfect but you could tell the developers loved the source material and have been steadily improving with each game they make.
The greatest thing that you can disable glorified UE5 features and enjoy clear and stable screen space reflections and stable lightning with up to 50% performance boost without noticeable visual differences even on low-mid tier hardware. Something that developers should have been aware of and provide those options on PC without ini tweaking and included in console versions by default.
@@J0rdan912 but you can literally just clean those up and use optimised settings and run it fine on something like a 3060??? Sure if you have an older PC and cant run the game well at all turn them off but I think its time for an upgrade if your PC is that old.
@@J0rdan912 It's time to upgrade your hardware & quit the crying. Most of us don't want graphics & gaming held back by cheap bastards who only expect to have to upgrade their hardware every 20 years.
Isn't that part of the BENEFIT to engines like UE5? They offer enough 'automated' native tools for handling traditionally DIFFICULT game development elements, so it doesn't require teams of hundreds of developers 3 years to produce acceptable/impressive looking games? Like, how many people would Bethesda/ID have had working on something like the modern DOOM 'reboots'?
Small devs have no pressure from corporations to meet deadlines. They do things on thier own terms. Thats why this UE5 game runs better then the other ones that we have so far aside from Jusant.
@@selohcinSo what? What harm are they doing sharing that comment. I appreciate it since I'm on PC. I still found this video interesting as well. Since a lot of it is just about how the developers have made use of UE 5 in general.
As someone who grew tired of Unreal 4 and all it's problem, I was very concerned about Unreal 5. I've been playing Robocop and I'm blown away of the insane amount of detail and geometry everywhere you look. Especially in the second map.. the Mill. The terrain and rocks is something of a quality I've never seen before. It looks absurd and assets that could very well be used in The Mandalorian. The advantages of unlimited poly count of nanite really shines in this game and if this is what a small AA studio can do.. imagine a high budget AAA making full use of the engine. The game is great by the way.
It's amazing to see Teyon go through their own No Man's Sky/Cyberpunk 2077 redemption arc with Terminator and RoboCop after that PS3/360 Rambo game. Good on them!
I'd be interested in seeing DF cover The Talos Principle 2. It's the first UE5 game I've played and I was absolutely blown away at the rendering. I was particularly impressed by how screen space reflections aren't nearly as terrible as they typically are due to the same reason stated in this video. The biggest issue I've seen is weird ghosting particularly with high contrast moving objects, though, which is rather distracting and as far as I can tell from some searching is a side effect of one of the UE5 technologies.
Yeah, the absence of Talos Principle 2 seems pretty glaring. I understand that as a puzzle game with no combat, it's not stressing the engine to the utmost in some respects. But it's a genuinely very good looking, polished UE5 game. I think it makes sense for it to be part of the conversation about early UE5 games - as it has been on some other channels.
@@gavinderulo12 if i was, i wouldnt notice the difference between this and those. Im thinknig the likes of Horizon Zero Dawn, even C;yberpunk etc, its a preference thing, I dislike the colors and lack of contrast in most modern games
Hope you'll cover the PC version at some point, there's a "High Quality Lumen Reflections" toggle and I'm intrigued at what it does and how it compares to the consoles. BTW, RoboCop: Rogue City is my GOTY of this year! Granted it's the only 2023 game apart from Resident Evil 4 that I've played, but still...
The "High Quality Lumen Reflections" just adds Lumen Reflections to transparent surfaces, but it can lead to some visual issues like flashing lights everywhere when combined with low or medium post-processing and DLSS (or DLAA).
Nice breakdown 👍 The game environment is PERFECT to show off the super impressive GI lighting. The splodgy/noisy GI in some areas is indeed a low ray count (as you mentioned) combined with interpolation softening that makes the lighting boil and fizz. It's purely just a waiting game for more horsepower to solve all this as they have a super impressive working model now. The super tessalated nanite rocks look totally insane also..mind blown again (even after seeing AW2 recently)!
Surpised there isnt much mention of the performance and graphical issues on PS5. Especially one glitch a lot of players including myself gave encountered, where during dialogue sequences everytime the perspective switches a pixelated effect appears. Feel like its not in the best state on PS5 at all.
I wish you had scolded the developers for the blurry image. I dunno if it's the post-processing effects, the lighting or DLSS; but whether I play the game with DLSS "Quality" or DLAA, it's very think Vaseline that you have to look through, at least at 1440p on a 27" screen. You should point these things out and complain, to create some pressure on devs to make games that don't look like you need glasses.
yeah I don’t think the reflections are removed for performance. There are mines in the water to look out for, so they probably allowed you to see through the water easier
@@RUclipsAccount-0 The game is worth a buy, also it's a small developer. I know that you're probably just here for the lol, but think about it. And...just to make sure someone misunderstood that part of my initial post: "I'd buy that for a dollar" is a quote from the RoboCop movie. I bought the game. :)
Not that RoboCop doesn't look impressive, but I would say The Talos Principle 2 betters it in terms of UE5 implementation. It's impressive how this new tech can give lower-budget games a look beyond even UE4's most high-profile stuff.
I want them to talk about The Talos Principle 2. I don't know which platform to get it for (which one hits 60fps better in Quality Mode). It's supposed to be an amazing game.
@@idakev I wish I could give you guidance, but I played it on PC. From what I've read, it seems the game has some issues on both consoles, but particularly Series S.
@@DrakeHunter324 aye true, shame that because I reckon with a bigger budget Teyon could make something that surpasses cult classic status and Die Hard hasn't had a video game since the so so Nakatomi plaza on PC.
I'm pretty sure the bridge at 5:44 (and the rest of the city for that matter) is just old-school doubled/mirrored geometry and the water is just a transparent plane with a refraction shader.
This game is awesome! Hope more people support it. I bought two copies on Xbox Series X sent one to a friend that only plays Call of Duty. It's also cool that the entire game is on the disc can be installed offline.
I've noticed that lumen struggles a lot with small light sources if the actual light mesh is contributing to the GI. If the mesh is invisible to lumen and instead reliant solely on a point light its a lot cleaner.
@@user-le2hu1ct4t it works, but it's just like denoising an undersampled path tracer. The smaller the light source, the less likely a ray is to hit it, the more noise, the heavier the denoising, the worse it looks. Its great functionality and it makes large emissive surfaces interact amazingly with their surroundings. Even small emissives like lit buttons or screens make great use of it, but when it's small AND bright, the noise is too much. Unreal needs an option to clamp a materials brightness in Lumens GI or something.
@@user-le2hu1ct4t and I still disagree because it works for most use cases, just not extremely small AND extremely bright objects. Besides, as the video says, he had to go out of his way to find those issues
I think I'll buy this one. Not because I have a lot of interest in it TBH (hell, I still haven't even started alan wake 2), but because the AA market deserves it.
So Series X renders at a 1080p resolution in both modes that resolves to about a 1440p final image meanwhile PS5's quality mode runs at a 1440p internal resolution. UE5 is bringing current-gen consoles to its knees. We're in desperate need of a mid-generational upgrade.
Wait! Game tech RUclipsr that ACTUALLY KNOWS WHAT HE IS TALKING ABOUT???? As a UE5 developer myself who worked full-time in UE since the first release of 4.0, I'm so tired of "Unreal RUclips experts" who opened UE first time a week ago. Soooo nice to see someone who actually knows UE5!
What are these AAA studios doing with their multi-million budgets, when a AA developer is the one to actually get it done? I’ve really enjoyed my time with this game. I am surprised a couple issues that annoy me on the PS5 weren’t brought up like texture pop-in, and rough cutscene transitions though.
Not just one, but two - Croteam built Talos Principle 2 on UE5 using (I'm pretty sure) the same feature levels (software lumen, virtual shadow maps, nanite, etc) and it's another game with visuals that you'd previously only expect to see from a AAA studio at peak performance (they occasionally impress us - see Doom Eternal etc) just a few short years ago. UE5 ain't perfect, but by gum it gives mid-sized developers some real flexibility and options without, apparently, being too much of a nightmare to deal with.
5:40 Just pointing out, this may have been a gameplay choice. Those pools of water hide landmines which are already VERY hard to spot until you're right on top of them. Reflections would probably make them impossible to see. 14:30 I had a near-identical experience on PC as well. So these issues aren't platform specific.
@@RonniSchmidt-mi7pd Personally I think it's pretty even. PS5 has higher resolution and reflections but Series X has better performance (approximately 10 fps in the open world)
I'll be honest I think I actually prefer cubemaps to these low quality Lumen reflections. At least you don't get any distracting screen-space artifacts that way and the off-screen reflections are too low quality to be worth the performance cost.
I'm curious you never mentioned texture pop in issues on the console versions... I noticed those and even though the game was overall very playable, that was kinda annoying sometimes... Specially on cutscenes...
I'm surprised it's not being spoken about more as well. I still haven't picked it back up because the pop in and glitches during dialogue are too distracting. It's pretty surprising they released it on consoles in this state.
@@kurtreynolds7211 I love the game... I've "platinumed" the game on the launch week, and I'm still playing just for the fun... But there's stuff here that needs a better look to see if can be improved polish wise... The pop in is less intrusive on performance mode... But on quality its bad... Too distracting... The recent patch fixed a couple glitches though... Like some costumes not triggering properly... Dialogue trees errors and stuff like that... The thing that bothers me the most is the pop in... Sometimes you look at a wall and see the detail "building" while you look around... On quality mode at least... Same on costumes building detail during dialogue... every camera cut you can see the image building in the buffer... It's not normal... I hope they can fix that and sell enough to guarantee the post launch support... The game is good... Every RoboCop fan should play it... But some things still need better polish...
@redhunter1535 No they are not xbot. Did you even watch the video here with PS5 having higher resolution, better textures amd reflections? Did you?...
On PC the game would benefit ALOT from hardware RT and ray reconstruction. With DLSS on, the shimmering/noise on asphalt was pretty annoying to say the least.
Best thing about RoboCop is that it actually feels like a GAME. Imagine that?? Being entertained by a new game in modern times... I'd almost forgot what it felt like. But this feels like something from the mid 2000's but with impressive graphics. A great combination.
What, like Baldurs Gate 3? Tears of the Kingdom? Mario Wonder? Alan Wake 2? Elden Ring? A Plague Tale: Requiem? Xenoblade Chronicles 3? Resident Evil Village? Ratchet & Clank: Rift Apart? Ghost of Tsushima? DOOM Eternal? Animal Crossing: New Horizons? ...Yeah. Imagine that.
@@Arcona Alan Woke 2 LOL... That's exactly the type of filth i'm talking about. You've proven my point with that list, with the one exception being Doom Eternal. But that was an extremely rare AAA anomaly and is now over 3.5 years old.
I thought the same, this feels like an old game. Games in the 80's, 90's and 00's were like classical art - High quality stuff from talented people. Gaming these days is like modern art - A urinal in an art gallery. And the zoomies simply don't know any better than the urinal and the games unrinalists that review them, as proven by the comments above.
As someone who considers the original Robocop their favorite movie, I'm so happy with how this game turned out. Loved it. Nanite really shines in the second level. The detail on the terrain is amazing. And the virtual shadow map feature makes the lighting and shadows always look super good. And the environmental destruction is great (which is powered by UE5's Niagara particle system)
This game sort of reminds me of The Chronicles of Riddick: Escape from Butcher Bay from the original Xbox and PC in 2004: Random game licensed from a movie property comes largely out of left field from a relatively unknown developer, surprisingly is good and somehow is also a technical showpiece. Terminator: Resistance was also surprisingly good, I hope this sells decent and we get to see more from Teyon.
I just get the impression that developers are really putting to much strain on what hardware can actually do and could cut some stuff out and would not be noticed
Trouble is these consoles aren't really capable of handling 'full strength' UE5 game features. Though since we've already had YEARS of UE4 game (no matter how poorly they run), consumers DEMAND an increase of graphic quality, so now we get poorly running UE5 games until the NEXT GEN which might finally be capable of really handling UE5!
Ed209 is sooo hard, I need to read up on how I can get that first mission with him done. Great game though - you are tanky as hell and I really like the weapon progress and customisation of skills, very clever what they did there.
Cheesed it. I died over 20 times because I didn't put any skill points in either armor, damage or health so finally I just stood behind the van in the arena and ED 209 can't even hit you over the car, it just tried to circle around unsuccessfully. Am I proud of that? No, but I play games for fun, not for pride and accomplishment!
Series X definitely needs a patch. Some of the frame drops are jarring. Going to keep it installed and hope they polish it up a little more before a full playthrough.
Great game. Environments/lighting are stunning on ps5, the character animations are quite bad but it doesn’t affect the game at all. In fact adds to its cheesyness we all love.
The way DF downplays terrible PS5 performance as of late is becoming noticeable. You’d almost think the Series X was the worst pick just listening to this but watching the footage it’s obvious the Series X version is better. They did the same for Alan Wake 2.
@@codysimpson911 while dropping 10 frames more on average. Also as stated by Oliver( or anyone with a brain) there’s clearly a bug going on in the sx version with the textures not loading.
@@codysimpson911why do you talk and sound like a teenage fanboy? You look like a grown man…shouldn’t that reflect a more mature response? I never understand this immature fanboy mentality…
Your right. I've seen other RoboCop video comparisons that show in many different areas where the XSX may drop a frame or 2 but in that exact same area the PS5 will drop frames in the double digits.
We're really entering the stage where much smaller teams are able to make genuinely better games than bloated AAA studios. I like it.
AKA Bethesda with its Superman flying through rings ending
You mean we're going back to that stage?
Back to the good old days, you mean.
It’s kinda like how the big pizza chains are shitty quality and the privately owned stores kick ass
support your local pizza places and buy indie lmao@@ZeePirateMan
This game is lovely! Feels a lot like mid-2000s AA games with a modern 2023 visual quality.
More like 2000s B games
There was a Robocop game in the 2000s decade
Yeah, you're also in and out of this thing in around 8-10 hours. It's fun but ultimately not the deepest experience so it's somewhat brief campaign (brief by today's standards) helps it not out stay it's welcome. I paid 36 bucks for it, enjoyed it while I was playing it and will probably never come back to it but I'm fine with it. I miss games like this, they remind of mid budget stuff you'd grab at a rental store in the early 2000's for the PS2.
Looks amazing until you see the NPCs
@@devilmikey00 it's 15 hours if you complete all side quests, it's not brief by today's standards, Dead Space remake was 14 hours with side quests and The Callisto Protocol is just 10 hours.
RoboCop is one of the surprises of the year. Reminds me of one of the many gems you'd find on the PS3 and 360 back in the day but with higher production values.
Yeah, one of those surprisingly fun & technically impressive games, like RIDDICK on the Xbox 360, or BLACK way back on the OG!
@@StreetPreacherr and bullet storm. Solid fun gameplay with nice graphics and beautiful world design.
Try their Terminator Resistance, it's an absolute love letter to the T and T2. Especially the second DLC.
Same thing with dead island 2 earlier this year! Takes me back to a simpler time in gaming without monitazation and massive open worlds.
Very true
Considering the size of the team and how much of the new tech they are using, this is really impressive! I hope they do some further patches and tweaks as this is a real showpiece of AA devs punching well above their weight.
Its bizarre, it was always implied that UE5 would make it easier for smaller devs to achieve AAA graphical quality, yet its the AAA struggling with it. I wonder why that is? I wonder if they are too reliant on their old workflows rather than adapting to how UE5 is designed to be used?
@@alexatkinunreal engine titles always do better with smaller maps or individual levels. Unreal engine does not work well at all in open world titles and developers struggle with it constantly. Pretty much every unreal 4 title that's open world struggles with performance
@@alexatkin thats exactly why, bigger studios will stick to older workflows because it saves money, with a smaller studio/team you can have a bit more freedom in the pipeline when it comes to building your world and using newer techniques
@@superflyt5638save for the magicery of days gone, which runs like absolute butter. To this day I still wonder how it runs so well…
If they patch faces, then it gonna look spectacular cause now game looks like mixed real life graphics with PS3 or sometimes PS2 in terms of facial animations 😅
I'm so happy with RoboCop getting more love these days!
Man, I was definitely sleeping on this game. Well, now I know what I’m doing this weekend!
This games announcement got me to finally watch the movie. It is one of the best movies I've ever seen in my life
@@Diaszuranawow
@@Diaszuranathe old or new one?
@@DiaszuranaSame here!
RoboCop team has a person who gets it, someone who isn't a jobber and you can tell from a mile away. Exceptional work.
What's a jobber?
how is sub 30fps in performance mode "exceptional"?
@@kiaranr A jobber is just there to have an easy job doing nothing except maybe typing all day on social media about their real (most likely misguided) passions. It's opposed to; someone with a passion for making games and gets a job in the industry to make their passion projects.
@@kiaranra jobsworth
@@Rebelscum264 Not really. A jobsworth is petty and officious. A jobber is just apathetic.
We seriously need more games like this. Sure, it's no Red Dead or GTA, but it's a competent product clearly done with passion and not for numbers. These sorts of games were plentiful two generations ago, but now so many devs either rush games out the door or are too ambitious for their own good.
Facts
Some of the shots, especially in the old run down parts of the city look absolutely incredible.
Developers that really put in the time and effort to optimize need to be supported. Definitely buying this game. Hope it sells really well
Not on PC
This is not optimised! The framerate is absolutelt abysmal
@@adk4986 What do you mean? In comparison to what?
@@baronsengir187 Lows of 27fps in performance mode on series x is absolutely shamefull. You cannot even defend it. I have yet to see a single UE5 game to run half decent on modern hardware
How is this optimized?
Would you believe this is the same studio that made the awful Rambo videogame in about 2016? Can we give these people some kind of "outstanding improvement" award? Because they deserve it.
It's in 2014
I didnt know they made that but it was awful. Thier terminator game was pretty good.
Look at the game Naughty Dog released before Crash Bandicoot.
@TheGOAT-hj6sltroll failed
@TheGOAT-hj6sl The only troll is you if you think TLOU2 is a technically inferior game of some kind. The story is dismissable imo, but the tech is solid
I genuinely hope this sells well. These guys poured their hearts into Terminator Resistance. And now this looks amazing...i want these guys to have enough support to tackle their next project. Im more excited about this team and ones like Halousemarque than i am with the ones pumping out "AAA" games these days.
People admitted it was decently good but they enjoyed how it respected the franchise rather then go the route of Terminator Woke Fate
Yeah they will. Glad you brought up Housemarque - Returnal is so dope and I’m really excited for their next game.
@@ryanblanchard2508 I finished RETURNAL recently, amazing gameplay.
@@Rokaburwoke is the norm. Look at your government. Cant opt out of that woke shit with your wallet. They own your wallet.
I _really_ hope they do Aliens or Starship Troopers 😂
After Terminator Resistance seemingly becoming a cult classic (as critics railed it) I really hope Robocop puts Teyon on the map for something with a larger budget - they’re really outdoing themselves after the failure that was Rambo: The Video Game
I've bought into the hype back then and bought Terminator Resistance and thought it was pretty bad, so agree with critics
Couldn't agree more, you can find faults in it, for sure, but overall, they have provided some of the best Movie License games, without counting the Rambo On-rail shooter, that was a tough one to sit through.
Terminator resistance was actually good. Wasn't an amazing must play game imo but it was really solid and fun
@@alex.starostin the shooting wasn't great but the story and atmosphere was everything we should've gotten in Terminator 3 or any of the lousy sequels after 2
Terminator Resistance was a nice surprise to me. It wasn't perfect but you could tell the developers loved the source material and have been steadily improving with each game they make.
It is also a must play for every RoboCop Fan
The great thing about the PC version is you can add commands to fix all the lumen noise for both the light and reflections.
The greatest thing that you can disable glorified UE5 features and enjoy clear and stable screen space reflections and stable lightning with up to 50% performance boost without noticeable visual differences even on low-mid tier hardware. Something that developers should have been aware of and provide those options on PC without ini tweaking and included in console versions by default.
@@J0rdan912 stable screen space reflections? Especially when you move camera up and down! LOOOOOOL!
@@J0rdan912 but you can literally just clean those up and use optimised settings and run it fine on something like a 3060??? Sure if you have an older PC and cant run the game well at all turn them off but I think its time for an upgrade if your PC is that old.
@@J0rdan912 "stable screen space reflections" lmao
@@J0rdan912 It's time to upgrade your hardware & quit the crying. Most of us don't want graphics & gaming held back by cheap bastards who only expect to have to upgrade their hardware every 20 years.
Damn really looks great. Who would have thought a small developer would be a shining UE5 star
Isn't that part of the BENEFIT to engines like UE5? They offer enough 'automated' native tools for handling traditionally DIFFICULT game development elements, so it doesn't require teams of hundreds of developers 3 years to produce acceptable/impressive looking games? Like, how many people would Bethesda/ID have had working on something like the modern DOOM 'reboots'?
Eh it’s an unreal engine game.
@@StreetPreacherr true but we really haven’t seen many examples of this being true. On paper it’s true in practice it really hasn’t
Small devs have no pressure from corporations to meet deadlines. They do things on thier own terms. Thats why this UE5 game runs better then the other ones that we have so far aside from Jusant.
They killed it with Terminator Resistance, so I had zero doubts they would at least nail the classic Robocop aesthetic and gameplay.
You can use two cvars to denoise the lumen shadows:
r.Lumen.Reflections.Temporal=0
r.Lumen.ScreenProbeGather.Temporal.MaxFramesAccumulated=32
Yes, but this video is about consoles.
What is the performance hit from these commands on pc?
@@selohcin And where's the PC video?
Oh right, doesn't exist.
Putting info here is the only place right now.
@@selohcinSo what? What harm are they doing sharing that comment. I appreciate it since I'm on PC. I still found this video interesting as well. Since a lot of it is just about how the developers have made use of UE 5 in general.
@@AceStrifeProbably aren't gonna make one. I have a 3080, but I don't think this game is crazy demanding and needs a optomized settings video.
As someone who grew tired of Unreal 4 and all it's problem, I was very concerned about Unreal 5. I've been playing Robocop and I'm blown away of the insane amount of detail and geometry everywhere you look. Especially in the second map.. the Mill. The terrain and rocks is something of a quality I've never seen before. It looks absurd and assets that could very well be used in The Mandalorian. The advantages of unlimited poly count of nanite really shines in this game and if this is what a small AA studio can do.. imagine a high budget AAA making full use of the engine.
The game is great by the way.
As a busy 38 year old father and husband, this is the type of game I’m all about. Smaller based games made by fans of a franchise I grew up with.
I'm really impressed, I was going to brush it off as an 80s nostalgia cash grab, but damn did they put in the work
Reminds me of Black with this level of destruction physics & Hollywood style effects.
This game is a must buy, it's amazing what such a small dev team can do.
This is what happens when devs don't try to reinvent the wheel, but instead follow best development practices to make a game that's rock solid.
well said
It's amazing to see Teyon go through their own No Man's Sky/Cyberpunk 2077 redemption arc with Terminator and RoboCop after that PS3/360 Rambo game. Good on them!
I'd be interested in seeing DF cover The Talos Principle 2. It's the first UE5 game I've played and I was absolutely blown away at the rendering. I was particularly impressed by how screen space reflections aren't nearly as terrible as they typically are due to the same reason stated in this video. The biggest issue I've seen is weird ghosting particularly with high contrast moving objects, though, which is rather distracting and as far as I can tell from some searching is a side effect of one of the UE5 technologies.
Yeah, the absence of Talos Principle 2 seems pretty glaring. I understand that as a puzzle game with no combat, it's not stressing the engine to the utmost in some respects. But it's a genuinely very good looking, polished UE5 game. I think it makes sense for it to be part of the conversation about early UE5 games - as it has been on some other channels.
13:04 -PS5 quality mode looks better resolution
They’ll need to lower that to fix the frame rate.
It is
@@TheBean8730fps plays great
I like how you talked about the graphics first . And left the console comparisons / preformance for last . 👍 great video
I wish UE5 could include a 40fps mode plugin for devs to easily use for their games on console.
The colors are wonderfully immersive here, not over the top like most games, rather muted at times
Which games have over the top colors? And are you playing on a properly calibrated hdr display using hgig?
@@gavinderulo12 if i was, i wouldnt notice the difference between this and those. Im thinknig the likes of Horizon Zero Dawn, even C;yberpunk etc, its a preference thing, I dislike the colors and lack of contrast in most modern games
@@danb7601 Cyberpunk with E3 2018 colors (there are some very good mods for that, not reshades) looks much better in my opinion then base game
Apart from the Lod pop-in glitch I get between changes in a scene during cutscenes on PS5, it's a pretty good effort!
Hope you'll cover the PC version at some point, there's a "High Quality Lumen Reflections" toggle and I'm intrigued at what it does and how it compares to the consoles. BTW, RoboCop: Rogue City is my GOTY of this year! Granted it's the only 2023 game apart from Resident Evil 4 that I've played, but still...
The "High Quality Lumen Reflections" just adds Lumen Reflections to transparent surfaces, but it can lead to some visual issues like flashing lights everywhere when combined with low or medium post-processing and DLSS (or DLAA).
There is a new 5 hour Robocop documentary out too. Robocop times.
Surprised it’s not John covering this. He’s been gushing about it on Twitter. Kinda wanted to hear more from him in depth.
A game clearly made from the heart. Well done to the developers Teyon
Nice breakdown 👍 The game environment is PERFECT to show off the super impressive GI lighting. The splodgy/noisy GI in some areas is indeed a low ray count (as you mentioned) combined with interpolation softening that makes the lighting boil and fizz. It's purely just a waiting game for more horsepower to solve all this as they have a super impressive working model now. The super tessalated nanite rocks look totally insane also..mind blown again (even after seeing AW2 recently)!
Surpised there isnt much mention of the performance and graphical issues on PS5. Especially one glitch a lot of players including myself gave encountered, where during dialogue sequences everytime the perspective switches a pixelated effect appears. Feel like its not in the best state on PS5 at all.
Same thing. So annoying, hope they fix it soon.
Not only on PS5, same thing happens on Xbox.
DF praising Teyon. Yep, that's among the top 3 things you weren't expecting today.
I wish you had scolded the developers for the blurry image.
I dunno if it's the post-processing effects, the lighting or DLSS;
but whether I play the game with DLSS "Quality" or DLAA, it's very think Vaseline that you have to look through, at least at 1440p on a 27" screen.
You should point these things out and complain, to create some pressure on devs to make games that don't look like you need glasses.
yeah I don’t think the reflections are removed for performance. There are mines in the water to look out for, so they probably allowed you to see through the water easier
That section sucks so much to play because you can barely see them in the water. 😊 can confirm
@@joeykeilholz925 I just blast the whole water with the Auto 9 inch by inch.
Actually finished it yesterday on PC. I really liked it and it also looks great. I'd....definitely buy that for a dollar! :D
Same for me. was a good game
pirated it for free not spending a dime, glad it’s not terrible might be worth installing.
@@RUclipsAccount-0 you strike me as the type to throw nickles at the stripclub because quarters would be too rich for your taste
@@RUclipsAccount-0 The game is worth a buy, also it's a small developer. I know that you're probably just here for the lol, but think about it.
And...just to make sure someone misunderstood that part of my initial post: "I'd buy that for a dollar" is a quote from the RoboCop movie. I bought the game. :)
Nice reference! : )
Not that RoboCop doesn't look impressive, but I would say The Talos Principle 2 betters it in terms of UE5 implementation. It's impressive how this new tech can give lower-budget games a look beyond even UE4's most high-profile stuff.
I want them to talk about The Talos Principle 2. I don't know which platform to get it for (which one hits 60fps better in Quality Mode). It's supposed to be an amazing game.
@@idakev I wish I could give you guidance, but I played it on PC. From what I've read, it seems the game has some issues on both consoles, but particularly Series S.
These guys need to get the Die Hard license if we’re going with 80’s action classics
Pretty sure Bruce Willis isn't in the position to grant his likeness.
@@DrakeHunter324 aye true, shame that because I reckon with a bigger budget Teyon could make something that surpasses cult classic status and Die Hard hasn't had a video game since the so so Nakatomi plaza on PC.
I'm pretty sure the bridge at 5:44 (and the rest of the city for that matter) is just old-school doubled/mirrored geometry and the water is just a transparent plane with a refraction shader.
Love this game, but the performance mode on PS5 needs a patch before i can really enjoy it. It legit looks 720p and flat out blurry alot of the time.
This game is awesome! Hope more people support it. I bought two copies on Xbox Series X sent one to a friend that only plays Call of Duty. It's also cool that the entire game is on the disc can be installed offline.
Not for many long
Mew XSX will be only digital, embrace it...
@@kostasbousbouras2654 nah I'll switch to PC at that point
@joewhitlow5799 how is avoiding one all digital platform for another a solution?
I've noticed that lumen struggles a lot with small light sources if the actual light mesh is contributing to the GI. If the mesh is invisible to lumen and instead reliant solely on a point light its a lot cleaner.
@@user-le2hu1ct4t it works, but it's just like denoising an undersampled path tracer. The smaller the light source, the less likely a ray is to hit it, the more noise, the heavier the denoising, the worse it looks.
Its great functionality and it makes large emissive surfaces interact amazingly with their surroundings. Even small emissives like lit buttons or screens make great use of it, but when it's small AND bright, the noise is too much.
Unreal needs an option to clamp a materials brightness in Lumens GI or something.
@@user-le2hu1ct4t and I still disagree because it works for most use cases, just not extremely small AND extremely bright objects. Besides, as the video says, he had to go out of his way to find those issues
Now if only they could fix the texture streaming issue on Xbox it would look amazing all the time
Remember: 10 years ago, this same company made RAMBO THE VIDEOGAME. Feel old yet?
I think I'll buy this one. Not because I have a lot of interest in it TBH (hell, I still haven't even started alan wake 2), but because the AA market deserves it.
This game is absolutely amazing. Give this studio every IP license rights!
They made a great Terminator game also
@@proassassin8473 Reminds me of Bethesda which started with the terminator franchise
I want a sequel now
We need dredd and die hard
So Series X renders at a 1080p resolution in both modes that resolves to about a 1440p final image meanwhile PS5's quality mode runs at a 1440p internal resolution.
UE5 is bringing current-gen consoles to its knees. We're in desperate need of a mid-generational upgrade.
xbox said no upgrade until 2028, so I built a 4090 pc.
The thing is that RoboCop actually runs well on PC. It shows that UE5 games don't have to be a nightmare to run.
Wish they would have included PC in this comparison.
It does but its quite demanding on hardware when playing at native resolutions without upscaling
Next IP for the Studio..Dredd !?
It doesnt look so great on ps5 looks like a ps4 pro game - i played on performance mode maybe thats why - game itself was pretty fun
Wait! Game tech RUclipsr that ACTUALLY KNOWS WHAT HE IS TALKING ABOUT???? As a UE5 developer myself who worked full-time in UE since the first release of 4.0, I'm so tired of "Unreal RUclips experts" who opened UE first time a week ago. Soooo nice to see someone who actually knows UE5!
Far from ideal, but it's one of the better UE5 efforts on consoles so far. Incredible from such a small team! I really should buy it now...
Wish games could make a 40fps mode with 120hz TVs for XSX and PS5 on lot of new games with quality modes. Nice medium consoles
What are these AAA studios doing with their multi-million budgets, when a AA developer is the one to actually get it done? I’ve really enjoyed my time with this game. I am surprised a couple issues that annoy me on the PS5 weren’t brought up like texture pop-in, and rough cutscene transitions though.
Not just one, but two - Croteam built Talos Principle 2 on UE5 using (I'm pretty sure) the same feature levels (software lumen, virtual shadow maps, nanite, etc) and it's another game with visuals that you'd previously only expect to see from a AAA studio at peak performance (they occasionally impress us - see Doom Eternal etc) just a few short years ago.
UE5 ain't perfect, but by gum it gives mid-sized developers some real flexibility and options without, apparently, being too much of a nightmare to deal with.
5:40 Just pointing out, this may have been a gameplay choice. Those pools of water hide landmines which are already VERY hard to spot until you're right on top of them. Reflections would probably make them impossible to see.
14:30 I had a near-identical experience on PC as well. So these issues aren't platform specific.
Are you guys going to be looking at The Talos Principle 2 as well? That's also a UE5 title that came out around the same time Robocop did.
Love they finally let developers use the tech available
Probably the first proper UE5 game that uses almost all the features.
Except not properly and, again, with heavy performance hit.
@@J0rdan912ya this game isn’t fun and visuals are mid
@@Akkbar21 Only your own comment isnt fun, go play other commercial titles.
And PS5 wins with ease.
@@RonniSchmidt-mi7pd Personally I think it's pretty even. PS5 has higher resolution and reflections but Series X has better performance (approximately 10 fps in the open world)
This such a blast to play, literally best game I've played this year!
I'll be honest I think I actually prefer cubemaps to these low quality Lumen reflections. At least you don't get any distracting screen-space artifacts that way and the off-screen reflections are too low quality to be worth the performance cost.
I'm curious you never mentioned texture pop in issues on the console versions... I noticed those and even though the game was overall very playable, that was kinda annoying sometimes... Specially on cutscenes...
I'm surprised it's not being spoken about more as well. I still haven't picked it back up because the pop in and glitches during dialogue are too distracting. It's pretty surprising they released it on consoles in this state.
@@kurtreynolds7211 I love the game... I've "platinumed" the game on the launch week, and I'm still playing just for the fun... But there's stuff here that needs a better look to see if can be improved polish wise... The pop in is less intrusive on performance mode... But on quality its bad... Too distracting... The recent patch fixed a couple glitches though... Like some costumes not triggering properly... Dialogue trees errors and stuff like that... The thing that bothers me the most is the pop in... Sometimes you look at a wall and see the detail "building" while you look around... On quality mode at least... Same on costumes building detail during dialogue... every camera cut you can see the image building in the buffer... It's not normal... I hope they can fix that and sell enough to guarantee the post launch support... The game is good... Every RoboCop fan should play it... But some things still need better polish...
Am I missing something? Textures load waaaay to slow on PS5!!! Loving the game so far. But the texture loading times are very distracting…
Man, between this and Alan Wake 2, it really does feel like the next generation has actually arrived.
Yes, both better on Xbox. It's not a coincidence.
@@redhunter1535bruh? Like the pc version isn't always crushing them both? At least Sony has some games that aren't on PC...
@redhunter1535
No they are not xbot.
Did you even watch the video here with PS5 having higher resolution, better textures amd reflections? Did you?...
@@joeykeilholz925 dumb comment, PC isnt a console so not a comparison. Both very different platforms with different missions
So Looks like PS5 has some advantages and the series X has some. Looks like an optimization issue to me that can be fixed with patches
Exactly
Seems like the Xbox Series X/S were just running on pure power and the PS5 on pure optimization...
On PC the game would benefit ALOT from hardware RT and ray reconstruction. With DLSS on, the shimmering/noise on asphalt was pretty annoying to say the least.
TRS implementación looks better
@@cromoescobar It does, but only on max quality, which is the most demanding upscaler.
one of the few new gen games I was genuinely impressed by… some of the facial expressions could use work but who cares about that.
I can’t wait to see what The Coalition does with UE5 and Gears Of War 6!
Is it me or do they only do consoles tech reviews, not many PC ones anymore.
Best thing about RoboCop is that it actually feels like a GAME. Imagine that?? Being entertained by a new game in modern times... I'd almost forgot what it felt like. But this feels like something from the mid 2000's but with impressive graphics. A great combination.
What, like Baldurs Gate 3? Tears of the Kingdom? Mario Wonder? Alan Wake 2? Elden Ring? A Plague Tale: Requiem? Xenoblade Chronicles 3? Resident Evil Village? Ratchet & Clank: Rift Apart? Ghost of Tsushima? DOOM Eternal? Animal Crossing: New Horizons?
...Yeah. Imagine that.
@Arcona Anything that asks the player to watch a couple minutes of cutscenes is bad these days.
@@Arcona Alan Woke 2 LOL... That's exactly the type of filth i'm talking about. You've proven my point with that list, with the one exception being Doom Eternal. But that was an extremely rare AAA anomaly and is now over 3.5 years old.
I thought the same, this feels like an old game. Games in the 80's, 90's and 00's were like classical art - High quality stuff from talented people. Gaming these days is like modern art - A urinal in an art gallery.
And the zoomies simply don't know any better than the urinal and the games unrinalists that review them, as proven by the comments above.
I love watching your videos whilst not really understanding a lot of the jargon 😊
Bought it full price cause Teyon deserves it. I was very happy with Terminator Resistance as well
As someone who considers the original Robocop their favorite movie, I'm so happy with how this game turned out. Loved it. Nanite really shines in the second level. The detail on the terrain is amazing. And the virtual shadow map feature makes the lighting and shadows always look super good. And the environmental destruction is great (which is powered by UE5's Niagara particle system)
The jankness of this game matches perfectly with the Robocop movies.
The "it's not a bug it's a feature" meme that works right.
This game sort of reminds me of The Chronicles of Riddick: Escape from Butcher Bay from the original Xbox and PC in 2004:
Random game licensed from a movie property comes largely out of left field from a relatively unknown developer, surprisingly is good and somehow is also a technical showpiece.
Terminator: Resistance was also surprisingly good, I hope this sells decent and we get to see more from Teyon.
Typo in the Series S Comparison chapter.
Somparison
Lumen reflection seems only useful with large scale objects similar to what planar did for so many games in the past
I just get the impression that developers are really putting to much strain on what hardware can actually do and could cut some stuff out and would not be noticed
Trouble is these consoles aren't really capable of handling 'full strength' UE5 game features. Though since we've already had YEARS of UE4 game (no matter how poorly they run), consumers DEMAND an increase of graphic quality, so now we get poorly running UE5 games until the NEXT GEN which might finally be capable of really handling UE5!
@@StreetPreacherrps5pro will be able to brute force it like the old 1x with the jaguar cores. Lol
To think these guys went from Rambo to this in just two games
Ed209 is sooo hard, I need to read up on how I can get that first mission with him done. Great game though - you are tanky as hell and I really like the weapon progress and customisation of skills, very clever what they did there.
Cheesed it. I died over 20 times because I didn't put any skill points in either armor, damage or health so finally I just stood behind the van in the arena and ED 209 can't even hit you over the car, it just tried to circle around unsuccessfully. Am I proud of that? No, but I play games for fun, not for pride and accomplishment!
Hide behind the boxes and upgrade survivability perks
I just hid behind pillars and in the kitchen
Series X definitely needs a patch. Some of the frame drops are jarring. Going to keep it installed and hope they polish it up a little more before a full playthrough.
The overcast weather makes the game look near photorealistic. I can’t even imagine how good the next Cyberpunk will look like with this tech
Props to the dev team! Looking forward to playing this one!
I’m happy this game is getting some attention. It’s a blast to play ❤
It's fascinating that UE5 gives budget games such a good graphics, i love this engine
I just finished the game on PC and I was very impressed. Looks great and feels like a RoboCop game through and through, highly recommended!
I still get the classic UE traversal stutter on the PC version but other than that I’ve been enjoying this one.
Kudos to this amazing dev.
Reminds you how fun it is to play someone over powered.
“Move, b1tch, get out the way!”
I really love this game. Awesome to see Teyon grow and improve in real time
The Rocks remind me of the first time you look down at the Grass in the original Halo Game on XBOX
Great game. Environments/lighting are stunning on ps5, the character animations are quite bad but it doesn’t affect the game at all. In fact adds to its cheesyness we all love.
It needs the slow loading textures sorting out
No mention of the constant glitches on the ps5 cutscenes, makes me wonder if you guys even played it on PS5.
The way DF downplays terrible PS5 performance as of late is becoming noticeable. You’d almost think the Series X was the worst pick just listening to this but watching the footage it’s obvious the Series X version is better. They did the same for Alan Wake 2.
That’s because the death threats would be imminent.
lol the PS5 runs at a higher resolution and has better textures, the Xbox is trash
@@codysimpson911 while dropping 10 frames more on average. Also as stated by Oliver( or anyone with a brain) there’s clearly a bug going on in the sx version with the textures not loading.
@@codysimpson911why do you talk and sound like a teenage fanboy? You look like a grown man…shouldn’t that reflect a more mature response? I never understand this immature fanboy mentality…
Your right. I've seen other RoboCop video comparisons that show in many different areas where the XSX may drop a frame or 2 but in that exact same area the PS5 will drop frames in the double digits.
Why is there no PC coverage? These consoles are way to similar, PC would be a very interesting addition.
Decent little game a must play if your a RoboCop fan....
Impressive job from the devs.
Yes there are big frame rate dips in performance mode but they can make this better with patches for all consoles.