Nice walking around intro. Feels fresh. Two very interesting shoes which I’m lucky to own. I’ve run over 200km in the Takumi Sen but only about 50 in the Streakfly. They’ve been alternated as my workout shoes for club sessions. As individual parts, I think I prefer every single element of the Streakfly. It’s more comfortable, the midsole is bouncier and it feels better on step in. But, as a whole shoe, I definitely prefer the Sen 8, it seems to give more assistance to the runner. I think I’d, personally, like to see both with a more aggressive drop to make them feel faster. At the end of the day, they are both great fun shoes to run in and I can hold the same paces in both. If I’m just doing a hard workout, it’ll be the Takumi Sen. If I’m wanting more versatility, I’ll wear the streakfly as it’s a more comfortable shoe overall. Can’t argue with the £40 price difference though. I think that’s the biggest issue that the Sen has. It makes the Streakfly seem like a good value daily trainer. For a race, I’m still getting out the Vaporfly.
Awesome review! First time Ive come across your channel and like all of the metrics which is definitely lacking in all reviewers (you are the only ine doing this). Thanks! Now a subscriber
Thanks Alex! As someone who scrambled and was excited to get 2 pairs of streakfly’s, inefficient is not the word I wanted to hear but thanks for the honesty
It would be interesting to have a "standardised" comparison, like the Adios 6 for example. For leg pounding that would be really interesting for me, how much difference is it between "regular" shoes and these.
Great review! I was expecting this comparison but now I'm kind of desapointed with these two shoes. It seems they're too expensive and not a big deal, right? Which would be your option for 5k?
Yes they don't live up to the expectations. Maybe we hyped them too much? Vaporfly would still be my choice. Hope this helps and thanks for your comment, Melissa.
Nice review Alex. I feel like I' m repeating myself with this comment haha but you said the same thing, right? I have the Sen 8 and really like it, very fun shoe. But I wouldn' t race in it, feel like I would put myself in a disadvantage over just using the Next%.
Agreed from A to Z with your comment. And repeating ourselves is good sometimes haha ;-) VF all the way for 5/10k I guess. The king is still the king...
Great review, nurd question : in some shoes when I run I feel like the heel to forefoot transition is to FAST. This also make a clapping noise (like you clap your hands) when the forefoot hits the ground. Strange feeling but enjoyable! But afterwards my legs hurt.. Did 10k VO2 max run in the Vomero. Loved them for being light on the foot and the airbags work very nice but the next day I had to take a day off. Never had a problem like that with RCV2. Is it the higher drop? Narrow midfoot? What increased the velocity of the heel to the forefoot?
most nike shoes have a very extreme reverse geometry that encourage speedy 'heel strike to foot flat' by bypassing the early stance phase of gait (initial contact and loading response). so you get that pronounced forefoot slapping impact and increased weight bearing. if you run in sprint spikes they all have the same feeling. for the vomero, the reverse geometry is pronounced since the air units in the forefoot compresses less than the softer rearfoot zoom x. it is easier to visualise this when you look at the nike maxfly spikes. also, the air pods act also like a point loading rocker rather than the traditional less aggressive rounded/rolling toe spring
You never said what was hurting for you to need a day off but if the "slapping" is almost you landing on the forefoot area when maybe you are more used to landing further back on your foot strike then it could just be that you are working your soleus muscle which is under the more classic bulb shape calf and goes down to the achillies more when landing as that could be taking the force and acting like a brake to stop your heel going down and leaving you flat footed each step. If you aren't used to that then that can be pretty painful and debilitating when getting over used or just more than normal.
@@scottfinlayson8920 thanks but I am a heel striker.. the transition from the heel to toe is like a quick slap and not the usual role feeling .. I make a sound like someone is clapping fast..
@@AlexFilitti that what I figured you’d say, thanks for confirming. As someone with 5 pairs of VF1s, 4 of which have never been worn, that warms my heart!!!
I know Adidas has some discounts on them at times, otherwise please feel free to use my discount code on top4running (link in the description). Not a huge discount but better than nothing.
Are the laces in the TS8 different then the laces in the Adidas 6 ? I had no problem with the laces in the Adios 6 besides the fact that look fragile but so far I did not break then up while lacing .
I have both shoes and the laces are different. The TS8 laces are thinner, especially at the ends of the laces and have less elasticity. The TS8 eyelet position makes it difficult to nail down the proper tension since the laces are tight to the eyelets, but once proper tension is achieved, a superb lockdown. I would highly recommend as Alex did to size a half size down from your Adios 6. I’ve enjoyed running in both shoes, but the TS8 are the ones I’m always excited to get on foot since it’s a fun fast shoe. I hope this info helps you.
@@MiracleWarriors No problem. Glad to share my experience with the shoes. Don’t hesitate if you’re on the fence about getting the TS8. If you enjoy the Adios 6, you’ll love TS8 as a light, fast, and nimble shoe that is race capable for those who like lower stack heights.
@@AlexFilitti I Think for me, this shoe will be utilised for track workouts where I don't want to do all the session in spikes...... as for road sessions/races, I can't see it beating the options already out there.
Nice walking around intro. Feels fresh.
Two very interesting shoes which I’m lucky to own. I’ve run over 200km in the Takumi Sen but only about 50 in the Streakfly. They’ve been alternated as my workout shoes for club sessions.
As individual parts, I think I prefer every single element of the Streakfly. It’s more comfortable, the midsole is bouncier and it feels better on step in. But, as a whole shoe, I definitely prefer the Sen 8, it seems to give more assistance to the runner.
I think I’d, personally, like to see both with a more aggressive drop to make them feel faster.
At the end of the day, they are both great fun shoes to run in and I can hold the same paces in both. If I’m just doing a hard workout, it’ll be the Takumi Sen. If I’m wanting more versatility, I’ll wear the streakfly as it’s a more comfortable shoe overall.
Can’t argue with the £40 price difference though. I think that’s the biggest issue that the Sen has. It makes the Streakfly seem like a good value daily trainer.
For a race, I’m still getting out the Vaporfly.
These metrics actually really help me. I guess I’m wired that way. This review is the best comparison I’ve seen on RUclips.
Thanks for your comment, Mason! Really happy that this helps you
Awesome review! First time Ive come across your channel and like all of the metrics which is definitely lacking in all reviewers (you are the only ine doing this). Thanks! Now a subscriber
I tried both shoes out and ran with them on the treadmill at the stores and I agree with everything you said about the two shoes, great comparison!
Thanks a lot for the great feedback, Juno! Glad we're sharing the same views
Thanks Alex! As someone who scrambled and was excited to get 2 pairs of streakfly’s, inefficient is not the word I wanted to hear but thanks for the honesty
You're welcome. Transparency in sharing my sensations is at the center of this channel, no matter what!
It would be interesting to have a "standardised" comparison, like the Adios 6 for example. For leg pounding that would be really interesting for me, how much difference is it between "regular" shoes and these.
Yes I agree and this should come at some point in time. Stay tuned :-)
Adizero Pro as well?
Takumi Sen 8 and Adios 6 are both incredible shoes.
Was at Nike store today, one of the employees recommended the streakfly as cross-fit training shoe, thoughts?
Great review! I was expecting this comparison but now I'm kind of desapointed with these two shoes. It seems they're too expensive and not a big deal, right? Which would be your option for 5k?
Yes they don't live up to the expectations. Maybe we hyped them too much? Vaporfly would still be my choice. Hope this helps and thanks for your comment, Melissa.
Well if i had to choose takumi sen 8 or adios pro 2 which is better for 5k 10k and track workouts?
Hey Alex would recommend the Nike ones for a 1500 m race
Alex, excellent video! What shoe do you choose for your 5-10k if it's not either of these?
Thanks a lot Ajay! Vaporfly!
Could you do this exact video for:
Vaporfly vs takumi
Metaspeed sky vs vaporfly
Ended up buying the Sen8 from top4running. Waiting to test them after Covid passes :D
Hope you'll be doing good soon! Let us know how the testing goes.
Nice review Alex. I feel like I' m repeating myself with this comment haha but you said the same thing, right? I have the Sen 8 and really like it, very fun shoe. But I wouldn' t race in it, feel like I would put myself in a disadvantage over just using the Next%.
Agreed from A to Z with your comment. And repeating ourselves is good sometimes haha ;-) VF all the way for 5/10k I guess. The king is still the king...
Great review, nurd question : in some shoes when I run I feel like the heel to forefoot transition is to FAST. This also make a clapping noise (like you clap your hands) when the forefoot hits the ground. Strange feeling but enjoyable! But afterwards my legs hurt.. Did 10k VO2 max run in the Vomero. Loved them for being light on the foot and the airbags work very nice but the next day I had to take a day off. Never had a problem like that with RCV2. Is it the higher drop? Narrow midfoot? What increased the velocity of the heel to the forefoot?
Probably rocker/toespring.
@@QronoZ713 no rocker in the Vamero... 🙄
most nike shoes have a very extreme reverse geometry that encourage speedy 'heel strike to foot flat' by bypassing the early stance phase of gait (initial contact and loading response). so you get that pronounced forefoot slapping impact and increased weight bearing. if you run in sprint spikes they all have the same feeling.
for the vomero, the reverse geometry is pronounced since the air units in the forefoot compresses less than the softer rearfoot zoom x. it is easier to visualise this when you look at the nike maxfly spikes. also, the air pods act also like a point loading rocker rather than the traditional less aggressive rounded/rolling toe spring
You never said what was hurting for you to need a day off but if the "slapping" is almost you landing on the forefoot area when maybe you are more used to landing further back on your foot strike then it could just be that you are working your soleus muscle which is under the more classic bulb shape calf and goes down to the achillies more when landing as that could be taking the force and acting like a brake to stop your heel going down and leaving you flat footed each step. If you aren't used to that then that can be pretty painful and debilitating when getting over used or just more than normal.
@@scottfinlayson8920 thanks but I am a heel striker.. the transition from the heel to toe is like a quick slap and not the usual role feeling .. I make a sound like someone is clapping fast..
Don't want to be controversial, but, can you compare fit and lockdown in this instance when you got the wrong size in the TS8.
Great point and you are correct the comparison is biased.
@@AlexFilitti A minor point really and in no way detracts from your always excellent output.
SF has lesser pronation angle but it is less stable than TS8?
So which shoe(s) would you choose for 5k/ 10k over these 2?
Vaporfly ;-) And between these two maybe TS8 but I'd probably never race in it tbh
@@AlexFilitti that what I figured you’d say, thanks for confirming. As someone with 5 pairs of VF1s, 4 of which have never been worn, that warms my heart!!!
Why did you say you wouldn't race in either of them?
Because they are better race day options out there in my opinion (for 5/10k: vaporfly, metaspeed sky...)
I think not gonna get any of them 😕 better go with the pro versions of them
Yes if I had to choose between these and the "higher end" racers, I'd go for the latter for sure. Thanks for your comment, Fabian!
I'd love a pair of takumi's but 200 euros is preposterous.
Can pick them up £136 in UK
I know Adidas has some discounts on them at times, otherwise please feel free to use my discount code on top4running (link in the description). Not a huge discount but better than nothing.
Are the laces in the TS8 different then the laces in the Adidas 6 ? I had no problem with the laces in the Adios 6 besides the fact that look fragile but so far I did not break then up while lacing .
I have both shoes and the laces are different. The TS8 laces are thinner, especially at the ends of the laces and have less elasticity. The TS8 eyelet position makes it difficult to nail down the proper tension since the laces are tight to the eyelets, but once proper tension is achieved, a superb lockdown. I would highly recommend as Alex did to size a half size down from your Adios 6. I’ve enjoyed running in both shoes, but the TS8 are the ones I’m always excited to get on foot since it’s a fun fast shoe. I hope this info helps you.
@@mattbeier you for sure helped me !
Thanks for the information.
@@MiracleWarriors No problem. Glad to share my experience with the shoes. Don’t hesitate if you’re on the fence about getting the TS8. If you enjoy the Adios 6, you’ll love TS8 as a light, fast, and nimble shoe that is race capable for those who like lower stack heights.
Thanks a lot @Matt Beier for sharing your experience. I do agree with everything you said ;-)
From my personal runs...Takumi Sen 8 ALL THE WAY!!👍🦾🏃
Well that's the message I tried to convey in this video too ;-) Thanks for the comment, Stuart
@@AlexFilitti I Think for me, this shoe will be utilised for track workouts where I don't want to do all the session in spikes...... as for road sessions/races, I can't see it beating the options already out there.