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  • Опубликовано: 25 янв 2025
  • Episode 53 of FNV: The Cutting Room Floor, an in-depth investigation into the cut content, design and development of Fallout: New Vegas. In today's episode, we're taking a look at the cut post game state that would've taken place after the second Battle of Hoover Dam, along with what would've happened to the Legion, NCR, MR. House and independent endings.
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  • @TriangleCity
    @TriangleCity  3 года назад +540

    Huge thanks to Ludo for allowing me to check out his mod and the info he provided! He's one of the OG's of FNV cut content and has made some of the most interesting discoveries. Here's a link to his Nexus profile, go check out his mods and keep a lookout for what he releases in the future.
    www.nexusmods.com/newvegas/users/105925448?tab=user+files

    • @feuerein
      @feuerein 3 года назад

      hey dude what's the background track you have playing around 16:00-17:55, I always like that track on all your vids

    • @yourwifesboyfriend1485
      @yourwifesboyfriend1485 3 года назад

      Is there anything to suggest how beating the main quest might have effected the dlcs?

    • @Dark-fe6rf
      @Dark-fe6rf 3 года назад +1

      @@yourwifesboyfriend1485 I believe it would

    • @TheUnchosenOne
      @TheUnchosenOne 3 года назад +1

      @TriagleCity Im guessing someone else already pointed this out but the 5th ending is the secret Elijah ending for Dead Money.

    • @Rayder2341
      @Rayder2341 3 года назад

      What mod do you have that makes your first person animations look good like at 11:37?

  • @Halo1138
    @Halo1138 3 года назад +2459

    "We had stuff, but we didn't have time to implement it."
    Huh. Obsidian in one quote really.

    • @wolfen26
      @wolfen26 3 года назад +187

      Or... "we had to cut it because consoles."

    • @Halo1138
      @Halo1138 3 года назад +128

      @@wolfen26 no, because a lot of the stuff missing from kotor 2 was because of unreasonable time constraints for a Christmas release.

    • @mateoreyes6921
      @mateoreyes6921 3 года назад +48

      Yeah
      The same thing happened with Fallout 2 and Kotor 2

    • @Toxic_Korgi
      @Toxic_Korgi 3 года назад +82

      As much as people blame Bethesda with the lie about them being responsible for the short development it really seems that the management at Obsidian has always had trouble limiting the teams vision before it hurts the development.

    • @ralcogaming7674
      @ralcogaming7674 3 года назад +125

      @@Toxic_Korgi that's actually not a lie, bethesda was responsible for a great deal of issues when it came to NV development. The time constraint lie isn't a lie when you realise obsidian had to use Bethesda's engine which they were unfamiliar with and as we all know is a piece of junk code wise. Learning such a system takes time which they already didn't have. From there, when you have chris avallone as narrative director you should know hes got big ideas and those ideas take time which they didn't have. This lie as you called it is 100% true when you realise what Bethesda did to obsidian and how their actions directly impacted them. As well as Bethesda publishing the game meaning Bethesda did set the release date not obsidian.

  • @bdawgrise6961
    @bdawgrise6961 3 года назад +3694

    Who else respects the fact that these guys decided that if they couldn’t do it right, they wouldn’t do it.

    • @samsungphone1326
      @samsungphone1326 3 года назад +122

      Yeah such a shame!!!!
      I wish they had of hit ("bethesda's) sales goal with there contract
      Such a scam

    • @MorriganAutumn
      @MorriganAutumn 3 года назад +28

      @@samsungphone1326 how is that a scam???

    • @XachXack
      @XachXack 3 года назад +188

      Bethesda is the reason New Vegas couldn’t be what it should’ve been, crazy how this is widely considered the best fallout game, despite it not even being what it wanted to be.

    • @MorriganAutumn
      @MorriganAutumn 3 года назад +10

      @@XachXack why?

    • @eazyv2069
      @eazyv2069 3 года назад +152

      @@MorriganAutumn Supposedly Bethesda sabotaged Obsidian by not fulfilling obligations they themselves committed to, like robust playtesting for QA and providing the team with whatever expertise they needed to get up to speed with Bethesda's proprietary dev tools. Given Bethesda's history of sabotaging studios, this isn't really much of a stretch in plausibility.
      On the other side of the coin I've also heard things like the insanely short development time for NV wasn't something Bethesda forced on Obsidian, but was rather a deadline Obsidian's upper management pushed for completely against the wishes of the studio's actual development staff. Obsidian's management is apparently infamous for being generally bad to work underneath according to ex-employees.
      It seems all around like Obsidian's devs were trapped between their own incompetent management and Bethesda's usual scummy practices when it comes to working with outside studios they can't just roll over.

  • @dylanbell268
    @dylanbell268 3 года назад +2095

    I think the 5th ending would’ve probably been some sort of sabotage ending. Obsidian always has a “fuck everyone” ending, I don’t see the trend ending with new Vegas

    • @CatnamedMittens
      @CatnamedMittens 3 года назад +117

      You're 100% on the right track.

    • @DampWetstew
      @DampWetstew 3 года назад +359

      During the Mr. New Vegas cut lines (around 5:00) he does mention "the dam being rendered useless", so that makes sense.

    • @jaxon0188
      @jaxon0188 3 года назад +274

      @@DampWetstew you can make the dam useless in the base game, if you side with yesman but blow up houses bunker in the fort you have to render the dam useless since you can’t hold it because you don’t have a robot army

    • @ien832
      @ien832 3 года назад +67

      @@DampWetstew I think that would've been for the Yes Man ending where you blow up the generators after not activating the securitron army

    • @Lance-The-BoS-Lancer
      @Lance-The-BoS-Lancer 3 года назад +26

      @Ethan Good I believe I saw that, they were ment to be a way larger faction then they are.

  • @AbstractSloth
    @AbstractSloth 3 года назад +736

    18:25 I like the idea of fantastic managing to bullshit his way into the Brotherhood of Steel.

    • @danielfigueredo5194
      @danielfigueredo5194 3 года назад +130

      @Ferny Panda Fantastic really annoyed me but I always had to give him props on his ability to bullshit.

    • @Arcticroberto9376
      @Arcticroberto9376 3 года назад +45

      When in Rome

    • @l9m241
      @l9m241 3 года назад +16

      man calling Spectacular would've been awesome lol

    • @Mr.Selyumor
      @Mr.Selyumor 2 года назад +15

      100 speech. 1 charisma

  • @T-Blur
    @T-Blur 3 года назад +473

    The fact that all this almost happened but didn’t, and new Vegas is still top class is even more insane. This easily could have been a video about how new Vegas just didn’t have enough time shoutout obsidian

    • @TriangleCity
      @TriangleCity  3 года назад +18

      That's pretty much what all my videos are about 😂

  • @damianwarneke305
    @damianwarneke305 3 года назад +602

    Would love to patrol the Strip post-Hoover as House's agent.

    • @theglutton1815
      @theglutton1815 3 года назад +3

      Do the post game ending

    • @damianwarneke305
      @damianwarneke305 3 года назад +5

      @@theglutton1815 I did actually haha. RIP The Kings I did all your quests for nothing

    • @BrazilianDreemurr2008
      @BrazilianDreemurr2008 6 дней назад

      ​@@damianwarneke305Mr. House can actually spare the Kings if they remain aggressive towards the NCR, which he convinces himself that it's an act of loyalty and lets them remain alive

  • @Number1Rival
    @Number1Rival 3 года назад +917

    The 5th ending might be one where the dam is destroyed. Maybe like a bomb or even having the Boomers destroying the dam with the B-29. A destroyed dam would probably also make the strip turn from a city of lights into one darker than Megaton in Fallout 3. Would've been great to experience the Mojave sky that is not lit up by the strip showing that the Mojave has become a hollow husk like the Sierra Madre.

    • @moongus_makes
      @moongus_makes 3 года назад +90

      I agree, I was thinking the 5th ending could have been some kind of meltdown option where you blow up everything like the dam and maybe even Vegas with a nuke or something, complete chaotic evil option that could require bad karma

    • @Number1Rival
      @Number1Rival 3 года назад +59

      @@moongus_makes Makes you think what would a destroyed New Vegas look like? I would've loved to walk through a destroyed New Vegas and be able to walk into the ruins of the Lucky 38 where the Penthouse ruins is now a part of the open world. Would've been a memorable moment where one of the most decorated interior with an overlook turns into a complete wreck. If the dam were destroyed, maybe the Colorado river would be higher/flooded and Lake Mead would be slightly lower.

    • @robbievercetti
      @robbievercetti 3 года назад +25

      This is a really cool idea
      With yes man you're given the option to basically destroy the dam during the battle, this would have surely led to the 'fuck you' scenario

    • @cgijokerman5787
      @cgijokerman5787 3 года назад +30

      The problem with that though, is that New Vegas has its own reactors and doesn't even need the Dam to have electricity.

    • @kristianperryadams
      @kristianperryadams 3 года назад +11

      @@cgijokerman5787 And that right there is why Fallout fans are the best fans in the world.

  • @phantom2450
    @phantom2450 3 года назад +514

    18:25 wait...this line implies that we would've gotten to see Fantastic in Power Armor! Truly the biggest loss out of all the cut content

    • @RaidsEpicly
      @RaidsEpicly 3 года назад +65

      The delivery is hilarious, he sounds like he's rock hard in there lmfao.

    • @ghostfox13
      @ghostfox13 3 года назад +40

      I mean theoretical power armor.

    • @2WorldWar2
      @2WorldWar2 3 года назад +9

      I would think he’d be in scribe robes not power armor.

    • @Krakkokayne
      @Krakkokayne 3 года назад +10

      @@RaidsEpicly He also sounds like his many chem addictions are getting worse too lol

    • @rasheedyoufreealrajhi6022
      @rasheedyoufreealrajhi6022 3 года назад +1

      still gonna get blown up

  • @williambatley3411
    @williambatley3411 3 года назад +273

    The True Ending is the King Ending, and it's Pretty Cool, man. Everyone gets together and grows pompadours, and NCR and The Legion just have dance offs, and go around cleaning up rubble and feeding folks, because charity is a Very Cool and Kingly thing to do. All statues get pompadours, Caesar even grows one, and eventually humanity comes together and chases out all raiders with cool finger snaps and take to the stars. It's the Coolest Ending.

    • @spacecashier
      @spacecashier Год назад +22

      Everyone also gets a robot dog complimentary too

    • @Antibong
      @Antibong Год назад +4

      You had me at and it’s pretty cool, man

  • @DEFxRECON
    @DEFxRECON 2 года назад +125

    The NCR emergency guy reacting to the Omerta attack is hilarious. He sounds mildly annoyed, like someone stuck in traffic.

  • @thedragonbroke
    @thedragonbroke 2 года назад +177

    As everyone says, imagine if Obsidian had had 3 years to make New Vegas. The possibilities are endless

    • @--Traveler--
      @--Traveler-- Год назад +13

      3 years + pc only.
      oh man! it would have been even more perfect :(

    • @ofrenic
      @ofrenic 8 месяцев назад +2

      ​@@--Traveler-- Yeah I can't play without open freeside and open strip

    • @TheCabalOnMars
      @TheCabalOnMars 7 месяцев назад +3

      ​@@--Traveler--no, just 3 years. Fallout NV is super awesome, and everyone should get to play.

    • @Dualbattle2062
      @Dualbattle2062 7 месяцев назад

      @@--Traveler--why PC only?

    • @somerandomguy8541
      @somerandomguy8541 7 месяцев назад +1

      ​@@Dualbattle2062less limitations

  • @Chinxcaws
    @Chinxcaws 3 года назад +260

    18:14 Funny how it mentions the facility "being a gun in the hands of a child" as I believe that's how you obtain the Euclids C-Finder in game; at quite a hefty price if I remember correctly.

    • @Dee-sz4jc
      @Dee-sz4jc 3 года назад +10

      You paid? I beat his a$s for it lmaooo

    • @konradobidoski5415
      @konradobidoski5415 3 года назад +30

      20 barter (which you might have by accident) lowers the price from 1000 to... 20.

    • @LonelySpaceDetective
      @LonelySpaceDetective 3 года назад +11

      Not as annoying since it's cut content, but if you use mods or console commands to get the cut Child at Heart perk you can also just pretend you're a space captain or something and get the C-Finder for free.

    • @tracykore
      @tracykore 3 года назад +3

      @@Dee-sz4jc evil

    • @SargeZeldaProductions
      @SargeZeldaProductions 3 года назад +5

      @@Dee-sz4jc I'm surprised you just beat him up for it instead of abducting him, replacing him with a clone that will die soon, making him spend his life training in boot camp to be a super soldier, and sending him to fight dissidents. ONI must be going soft...

  • @jimbog6376
    @jimbog6376 3 года назад +256

    watching these cut content videos almost makes you wish for another year of development time.

    • @gageadams8662
      @gageadams8662 3 года назад +5

      Omg a year and 7 months? This game would have had to come out on next gen in 2012! IT WOULD HAVE BEEN EPIC! I NEEEEEED IT!

    • @Joshua-fi4ji
      @Joshua-fi4ji 2 года назад +15

      Microsoft needs to contract Obsidian on a New Vegas Extended Addition. Keep the game the same, but add in all the cut content and any other minor improvements. Maybe some smaller graphics and gameplay improvements, as already included in various mods.
      Much quicker, easier and safer than a full remake or new Fallout game.

    • @AkiWataru
      @AkiWataru 8 месяцев назад

      @@Joshua-fi4ji thats not happen. most of folks that work then not work anymore for obsidian.

    • @Joshua-fi4ji
      @Joshua-fi4ji 8 месяцев назад +1

      @@AkiWataru I know, but they did a decent job with the Outer Worlds, despite that game overall being a bit mediocre.
      They'd be fully capable of remaking and expanding on NV as most of the groundwork has already been done.

  • @DinsRune
    @DinsRune 3 года назад +140

    I think it's honestly for the best that the post-game was left out.
    One of my gripes with Skyrim is how much the world _doesn't_ change with everything the player can accomplish. The player can kill the Emperor, destroy the dragons, unleash a horde of vampires and kick out the Empire, and things will be largely the same as they were at the start of the game. It makes your big choices feel... not.
    Having everything instead be sort of shrouded in mystery and not letting you _see_ the world you're creating maintains the feeling that nothing is the same after the Dam, letting your imagination fill in the gaps. Funnily, it's an example of telling being better than showing.

    • @varietygaming33
      @varietygaming33 2 года назад +10

      Fallout NV isn’t Skyrim. A post-game could’ve worked. It could’ve actually shown how your actions changed the Mojave

    • @randybobandy9688
      @randybobandy9688 2 года назад +18

      I think they made the right choice to cut it if they weren't going to be able to do it right, instead of just saying fuck it

  • @idkissausername1667
    @idkissausername1667 3 года назад +226

    Babe wake up, TriangleCity posted

    • @kgpspyguy
      @kgpspyguy 3 года назад +3

      Babe, you shan't slight me again babe. Come watch TriangleCity post haste.

    • @SirDankleberry
      @SirDankleberry 3 года назад +1

      Stop trying to wake up your hand.

  • @jerkyjaw
    @jerkyjaw 3 года назад +452

    I'm usually not a fan of re-releases on a newer device but doing a filled out FNV (added cut content, post game, better graffics and maybe a new dlc or 2) followed by a FNV2 or a fallout set out in the west would be great and rake in cash for the company

    • @daniellandry4226
      @daniellandry4226 3 года назад +66

      Actually I think microsoft has both Bethesda and Obsidian currently so a re released new vegas is possible

    • @BillehBobJoe
      @BillehBobJoe 3 года назад +23

      I don’t see how that would work, what I’ve taken away from TC is new vegas was in development long before it was ever even a thing officially, i.e. the pen & paper games the devs talk about
      Plus I don’t see a scenario where Microsoft says “Bethesda, Obsidian, work together! Chop! Chop!” going anywhere but a firey death

    • @tomuhawk96
      @tomuhawk96 3 года назад +62

      How many people that worked on New Vegas are still at Obsidian anyway?
      You've heard the stories. The best first person RPG, lying in the middle of weaker games. Playing it, that's not the hard part. It's letting go.

    • @jackspnc
      @jackspnc 3 года назад +16

      I would take literally only added content. The DLC is perfect for me, I wouldn't want anything extra apart from what would have been in if time permitted.

    • @Xegethra
      @Xegethra 3 года назад +15

      Some cut stuff would be nice, but not everything. Having stuff for the sake of having it, isn't so good, it can just bloat the game, or it doesn't fit, or they couldn't fix it, or it ruins story...so it goes. Sometimes it can be the reverse of that, but that is the dilemma of creating a videogame. Development has to end somewhere otherwise, when does it end? So you throw stuff out for one reason or another. Having all cut content would break it....even more, I know this is Fallout we are talking about here.

  • @simondiamond5107
    @simondiamond5107 3 года назад +326

    Fifth ending probably had something to do with the cut followers stuff

    • @Psychonautical89
      @Psychonautical89 3 года назад +18

      More likely Brotherhood, Elijah, or possibly even Ulysses than the Followers I think.

    • @KiraSlith
      @KiraSlith 3 года назад +37

      @@Psychonautical89 No, there's multiple cases of major faction functions for The Followers being cut, odds are they were the 5th ending. The BoS were minor faction from the start much like Fallout 1 thanks to their severe losses across Nevada.

    • @theghostofthomasjenkins9643
      @theghostofthomasjenkins9643 3 года назад +2

      it's the fantastic-i mean spectacular ending.

    • @vahlen5281
      @vahlen5281 3 года назад +4

      @@KiraSlith No, the 5th ending was the Legion ending with Caesar dying during the operation and Lanius becoming the new Caesar. The Followers being a major faction was cut long before Obsidian finalized the story.

    • @danielsantarosa101
      @danielsantarosa101 7 месяцев назад

      I think the 5th ending was to destroy the three factions, like in Independent ending, but also destroying the dam

  • @feuerein
    @feuerein 3 года назад +110

    We can't expect God to do all the work

  • @TheInfiniteAmo
    @TheInfiniteAmo 3 года назад +66

    The 5th ending was likely the original Ulysses ending from when he was going to be a major companion and/or a general "wipe the slate clean" ending. Both Ulysses and Elijah bring up doomsday scenarios in the DLCs.

  • @belltoadtall7673
    @belltoadtall7673 3 года назад +304

    The fifth ending would’ve been the Legate's Legion victory.

    • @Ancienregime8090
      @Ancienregime8090 3 года назад +7

      Definitely

    • @robertcampbell3019
      @robertcampbell3019 3 года назад +7

      We... have that though

    • @belltoadtall7673
      @belltoadtall7673 3 года назад +25

      @@robertcampbell3019 I was referring to the after hoover dam content

    • @trouslinabone
      @trouslinabone 2 года назад +9

      I was going to scream if no one knew that the Legion has two endings, technically. Thank you.

    • @matheus31218
      @matheus31218 2 года назад +2

      @@trouslinabone Can you explain? I didn’t do the legion playthrough yet

  • @carlgreene538
    @carlgreene538 3 года назад +101

    It's clear this game was rushed with lots of content left out it also has a very small world map which wasn't meant to be the case.

    • @Badookum
      @Badookum 3 года назад +20

      and its still the best Fallout game to date, Bethesda only wish they could make a game as good as Obsidian

    • @carlgreene538
      @carlgreene538 3 года назад +1

      @@Badookum I have only played 3 and New Vegas so I shall take your word for it.

    • @robertharris6092
      @robertharris6092 3 года назад +22

      @@carlgreene538 4s just 3 with a more polished but dumber down version of new vegas combat but with an absolutely boring and uninteresting main story.

    • @carlgreene538
      @carlgreene538 3 года назад

      @@robertharris6092 I haven't played 4 and probably never will as I don't have have a modern console.

    • @stinkyfartguyofficial
      @stinkyfartguyofficial 3 года назад +3

      @@Badookum it really isn't, fallout 2 is probably the best tbh

  • @republicradio431
    @republicradio431 3 года назад +141

    Well FNV in particular is so complex that i prefear to leave the end to our imagination

  • @baconking1595
    @baconking1595 3 года назад +74

    If I remember correctly in the files the followers of the apocalypse are listed as a major faction the fifth ending is probably that.

    • @TriangleCity
      @TriangleCity  3 года назад +33

      That seems like the most likely 5th ending to me as well. Theres actually a section in the official guide that seems to reference their questline.

    • @messydeskproductions4159
      @messydeskproductions4159 3 года назад +1

      @ayy lmao they already have a major pro and a con , it feels like the only reason they don't have an ending and more presence is time.

  • @Xemosby
    @Xemosby 3 года назад +69

    I swear I cry a little bit inside everytime I see the amazing content and ideas that was cut from the game

    • @XtreemAlan
      @XtreemAlan Год назад +5

      *2 more years*
      *that’s all the would’ve needed*

    • @newpivot1
      @newpivot1 Год назад +1

      @@Gamer-ry6xy No they didn't. They offered a bonus if a certain score was achieved by a certain time. Obsidian tried meeting it but failed. It was Obsidians decision alone to release Fallout New Vegas as a broken unfinished product to try and get that bonus. Chris Avellone says as much.

  • @courier6960
    @courier6960 3 года назад +96

    Actually I’m pretty sure the fifth ending is just the second variation of the legion ending (the two variations being where Caesar is alive, and the other being when Lanius has control of the legion)

    • @MasterGordon5115
      @MasterGordon5115 3 года назад

      Both of them are counted as Legion ending tho

    • @courier6960
      @courier6960 3 года назад +9

      @@MasterGordon5115
      Yes, but both legion endings have very different outcomes for some areas, so likely this “fifth ending” in the code was likely just distinguishing between the two scenarios.

  • @ImDirtyDan
    @ImDirtyDan 3 года назад +56

    This video actually hurts, I love fnv so much, world changing post game content like this would have been so amazing, truly is a damn shame it was all cut.

  • @jamesmcmackin8773
    @jamesmcmackin8773 3 года назад +64

    I've been playing the DLC's and major quest mods as my postgame with FPGE, and it really makes the " epic battle" at Hoover Dam fit in better as a midpoint in a greater overarching saga.

  • @Alex_FRD
    @Alex_FRD 3 года назад +363

    I hope F4NV is taking notes.

    • @AlexWithington
      @AlexWithington 3 года назад +68

      If I remember correctly they are doing some of the cut content I could be wrong tho

    • @HellishSpoon
      @HellishSpoon 3 года назад +44

      I would not dare ask those guys to do extra work like restoring post game content as that would require probably bunch of new dialogue that they would need to voice and just would have to come up with there own ideas of what it would look like as its kinda vague

    • @kokeshishikeko9775
      @kokeshishikeko9775 3 года назад +39

      May not necessarily be a good idea. The developers of FNV have gone on record saying that some of the cut content is because they run out of time, but some of it is stuff they ended up not liking and so they actively chose to remove it from the finished game. If we think of a game during development time as the draft for a novel, some of it HAS to be removed to improve the quality of the final result.

    • @theghostofthomasjenkins9643
      @theghostofthomasjenkins9643 3 года назад +11

      nah, i'd rather leave up to modders of F4NV. let them get the core game out, then other people can try implement changes.
      and kokeshi is right. not all of it was cut because of time. a lot of it was cut because it wasn't good enough. NV is a steak with most of the fat trimmed off. adding the fat back in doesn't make the steak better, it makes it worse.

    • @saxwastaken
      @saxwastaken 3 года назад +9

      from the F4NV FAQ
      Q: "Will you be adding cut content?"
      A: Maybe. Some content is more labor-intensive than other bits, and so we'll likely be adding it as we go along, depending on how much effort we find the content actually is to add to the game

  • @FakeEnclaveSoldier
    @FakeEnclaveSoldier 3 года назад +110

    I think the 5th ending was probably the Followers of the apocalypse ending, but who knows

    • @SeanNaut
      @SeanNaut 3 года назад +28

      @45-70 Gov't Followers are pretty closely aligned with Benny, they had the ability to hack yes man and were probably pretty well liked by the people of the Mojave. Imo, with Courier backing Followers would make a good degree of sense.

    • @marcusperilli266
      @marcusperilli266 3 года назад +21

      Could of been a peaceful ending, with Caesar once being a follower and his respect for them and the factions links to New California, maybe some sort of diplomatic solution could of unfolded between the legion and NCR. Or maybe the followers joined with the brotherhood to take the dam by force for the technology uno

    • @Psychonautical89
      @Psychonautical89 3 года назад +1

      It was the ending for joining Elijah. The singular add-on ending.

  • @garconvoute3024
    @garconvoute3024 3 года назад +70

    I actually kinda had a rough day and just seeing a new Traingle City vid picked up my spirits and seeing the 26 minutes made it that much more. Thanks bro, needed the Triangle Therapy today

  • @pcontreras8510
    @pcontreras8510 3 года назад +37

    _"Episode 53 of FNV: The Cutting Room Floor"_
    Welp, i think i know what I'm going to be watchin' the whole next week

  • @TKsMantis
    @TKsMantis 3 года назад +29

    Great video as always brother!

    • @TriangleCity
      @TriangleCity  3 года назад +6

      Thank you so much dude! 🖤🖤🖤

  • @noobguy3547
    @noobguy3547 3 года назад +103

    ". . .tormenting him for fun".
    Geez, the amount of sexual tension between Lt. Boyd and Silus is terifying.

    • @admiralamel9563
      @admiralamel9563 3 года назад +4

      I mean her husband probably have an affair back in California, atleast she have Silus to play with.

    • @therobustmole1137
      @therobustmole1137 3 года назад +8

      What? No

    • @llab3903
      @llab3903 3 года назад +2

      @@therobustmole1137 oh yeah

  • @ashtondoublet8334
    @ashtondoublet8334 3 года назад +46

    Maybe the 5th ending could have been the ending where you take over the Mojave with Father Elijah after Dead Money

    • @ashtondoublet8334
      @ashtondoublet8334 3 года назад +1

      @Nagger true but I was just giving a suggestion, I mean they already had Veronica's lines for dead money in the game before dead money released so I mean maybe they had it in mind but still probably not.

    • @GlitterGothBunny
      @GlitterGothBunny 3 года назад

      @TheForging545 is that a mod?

    • @kalameetblackdrago
      @kalameetblackdrago 3 года назад +1

      Or maybe killing everybody in the game

    • @admiralamel9563
      @admiralamel9563 3 года назад +1

      @@GlitterGothBunny Yes, it's a really good experience, I recommended trying it at least once in your life.

    • @Smorble
      @Smorble 3 года назад +2

      ​@@admiralamel9563 Really? I never saw the appeal, seemed like it was trying way too hard to be uber grimdark, though I guess Chris "I think Fallout isn't post-apocalyptic enough, even though humanity would obviously recover and advance, so I'm gonna set up several ways the wasteland gets fucked" Avellone paved the way for that.

  • @mekami2783
    @mekami2783 3 года назад +133

    We won't go quietly the legion can count on that

    • @RustyUNITB
      @RustyUNITB 3 года назад +4

      If the legion takes the dam I’m saving a bullet just for me

    • @MrStealYourGirl_
      @MrStealYourGirl_ 2 года назад +4

      Patrolling the Mojave almost makes you wish for a nuclear winter.

  • @ButterDog42069
    @ButterDog42069 3 года назад +15

    18:50 The voice acting in this sequence is soooo good tho. It's a shame that this actors work was never used, might have been pretty upsetting for him.

  • @kevinhixson1586
    @kevinhixson1586 2 года назад +10

    Originally for "house always wins V" was supposed to have you convince house to spare the brotherhood but was cut at the last minute.

    • @milkape7363
      @milkape7363 Год назад +9

      That was the one thing stopping me from going with house, wish they changed that

    • @oldworldblues4953
      @oldworldblues4953 8 месяцев назад +1

      ​@@milkape7363 lorewise it makes sense, the Brotherhood isn't gonna like House using robots

  • @majinya6199
    @majinya6199 3 года назад +16

    What If those Radio audio played over the endings? Would makes sense for why it seems so recently after and wouldn't contradict the month later post game.

  • @bosnianbeggar
    @bosnianbeggar 3 года назад +6

    on the subject of the cazadors, Ulysses has a comment on it "Wouldn't have made it through Crimson River Trail a few years back without it - losing so much blood early on, was a Cazador feast.

    • @TriangleCity
      @TriangleCity  3 года назад +1

      I didn't know that! That's so cool

    • @bosnianbeggar
      @bosnianbeggar 3 года назад +1

      @@TriangleCity if i remember correctly its when he is teaching you bitter drink

  • @cookiedou3
    @cookiedou3 3 года назад +6

    18:44 this does actually play, during the battle of hoover dam, with a legion play through if you connect to NCR emergency radio, you can hear it

    • @TriangleCity
      @TriangleCity  3 года назад +5

      I didn't mean it was cut, just playing it for reference

  • @slxxpyhollow
    @slxxpyhollow 3 года назад +10

    Josh, John, and Chris and the rest of the team did such an amazing job on this game.

  • @Jakenh84
    @Jakenh84 3 года назад +3

    These videos are genuinely hightlights of my week. I don't know how you don't have more subs. The quality of your work is some of the best on RUclips!

  • @Chedring
    @Chedring 3 года назад +58

    Post game is great but NV having a true ending is what makes the narrative more meaningful.

  • @docdarlin5491
    @docdarlin5491 3 года назад +4

    the gate at the back of McCarran finally makes sense of PvtCrenshaw's comment - he says he's guarding a gate that's not there now

  • @enclavesoldier7663
    @enclavesoldier7663 3 года назад +12

    Are you ever planning on doing a video on the cut content of New Vegas’s DLC’s, if there is any? That’s something I’d like to see.

  • @ratchet1122
    @ratchet1122 3 года назад +24

    Wonder if you’ll be doing the dlc as well. I always wondered if honest hearts has cut content since there is no option to help the white legs. I mean if you play a legion character you want to help the white legs.

    • @GlitterGothBunny
      @GlitterGothBunny 3 года назад +7

      That dlc always seemed a bit empty to me though I loved the rain, fresh water (tho not sure how thatd be explained) and reading those journals from that one survivor. His story was so sad.

    • @ratchet1122
      @ratchet1122 3 года назад +2

      Yeah I would have changed quite a lot to make the story better. The intro cutscene sets up the people of new Canaan but then tells you that they evacuated earlier which is disappointing. I would have changed the beginning to have you and the caravan in the middle of a battle between the white legs and the dead horses and during the battle you follow a white leg tribal or follows chalk. Which faction you follow is the one you side with. I also would have put the new canaanites in the dlc but to do that would require expanding the map a bit and changing the story to accommodate them. It’s hard but the hard work would have made honest hearts a better dlc

    • @ratchet1122
      @ratchet1122 3 года назад +1

      As for the caravan they would survive if you chose to go with follows chalk and they would probably become merchants till the end of the dlc. One of the quests they give is to set up a trade deal with new Canaan and the dead horses and sorrows since that’s the whole reason they came in the first place. If you went with the white legs however, you would be forced to kill them eventually since you are in the way of them trading with new Canaan but if your speech skill was high enough you could intimidate them into leaving peacefully

    • @ratchet1122
      @ratchet1122 3 года назад +1

      I meant got so many ideas on improving new Vegas. If I was a modder I would put it into the game. I probably have over 100 quest ideas for the game like powder hanger quests where you help the doctor learn to treat addiction and rads which was cut or help them take over primm which was probably another way to settle the quest my kind of town. I would have even allowed them to fight with you in the second battle of Hoover dam. If you got them to side with house, then he would reward them by making them the 4th family of vagas. If you somehow convinced them to help the nice them they would get pardons. If with the legion then they would betray them and all the powder hangers would be dead. If independent, they would terrorize the Mojave for years.

    • @ratchet1122
      @ratchet1122 3 года назад +1

      It’s also quite obvious that the fiends were supposed to be a faction with reputation but they ran out of time. Their quests would have been taking over outer Vegas and cam mccarren. One of the quests I would have put was helping cook cook poison the ncr food supply since they are having trouble with food in the game and cook cook being good with food would know how to poison them. This had the effect of lowering the ncr health to make it easier to kill them when you attack. The second cook cook quest would be to kidnap Betsy so you can use her as bait to lure first recon onto ambush and kill them, further weakening the camp. I also would have a quest where you plant bombs in the sewers so when you attack you can create holes in the ground where fiends can come out of so they don’t all appear from one spot and get destroyed. Driver Nephi would have you do quests to take over free side like kill mean son of a bitch or make an alliance with the scorpions gang for backup in the assault on west side. Violets quests would be harder since she’s the craziest of the fiends. She probably would be dealing with the ncr dogs in the camp. Finally before the assault motor runner would tell you they received a message from the spy in the camp for you to meet them and you would do the quest I put a spell on you. After that Curtis would help hsu escape the camp when you attack and retreat to Hoover dam where he could sabotage it from the inside which means more quests at Hoover dam. That’s what I would have done with the fiends

  • @sethstartix
    @sethstartix 3 года назад +4

    Revisiting FONV with mods for my 8th time while watching your channel. Great stuff man!

  • @Rookheimer
    @Rookheimer 3 года назад +10

    Never forget, they made this game in 18 months.

  • @planescaped
    @planescaped 3 года назад +61

    One of the most fascinating episodes yet I think.
    Also Yes Man's dialog is super f***** ominous. All but saying I'll be back terminator style. He tooooootallly won't betray you. *wink.

    • @tinaherr8030
      @tinaherr8030 3 года назад +4

      He won't betray you if you weren't an idiot. Like if you blew up the Securitron bunker or ignoring the other factions.

    • @jonh5941
      @jonh5941 3 года назад +1

      Tina Herr idk about all that

    • @Lance-The-BoS-Lancer
      @Lance-The-BoS-Lancer 3 года назад +7

      It's about getting more focused on what you need, and not being able to let other people control him.

    • @tinaherr8030
      @tinaherr8030 3 года назад +17

      @@jonh5941 well, you literally got him in the position of power he is right now. He owes you. The only thing that would tarnish that is if you kept making bad choices. (This isn't including the interview where a developer said that when Yes Man became "assertive", he made it so that he could only follow the Courier's orders.)

    • @planescaped
      @planescaped 3 года назад +1

      @@Lance-The-BoS-Lancer I dunno, sounded to me like he was implying he was turning himself into a SHODAN. Just in a very Yes Man way.
      Guess they left it open to interpretation on purpose.

  • @karljohan2300
    @karljohan2300 3 года назад +8

    god just imagine what this game couldve been with another year of development

  • @jimsquared153
    @jimsquared153 3 года назад +3

    These videos are like a train wreck in slow motion. It makes me so sad to listen to everything we missed out on, but at the same time, I can't stop watching every minute of them!

  • @hattoripool1533
    @hattoripool1533 3 года назад +45

    I wonder if the Fallout 4 New Vegas remake mod will include all the cut content from the original New Vegas? Can someone, please tell me if they are doing that or not?

    • @geth7112
      @geth7112 3 года назад +17

      No other than very small cut content changes, they're keeping it as to the original as possible.

    • @TheFrogEnjoyer
      @TheFrogEnjoyer 3 года назад

      @@geth7112 do you know which particular cut content they're using?

    • @geth7112
      @geth7112 3 года назад

      No unfortunately not, I'm just going off of what they said on their Discord

    • @planescaped
      @planescaped 3 года назад +18

      @@geth7112 I don't blame them, that'd be a ton of work on top of a metric fuckton of work. Do the hard part and leave that to someone to mod the mod.

    • @KaoticReach1999
      @KaoticReach1999 2 года назад

      Not even worth speculating as being possible.
      It's not even like TTW where they were able to include all the cut content from Fallout 3 for NV going there, the engine was unchanged

  • @TheRetroShepherd
    @TheRetroShepherd 3 года назад +5

    7:11 TriangleCity: "...the Securitrons..."
    auto captions: "the SAKURA-TRONS"

  • @darthhavokk701
    @darthhavokk701 3 года назад +10

    18:50 - 19:17 Pure gold dialogue 😂

  • @user-ig5bo9yq9k
    @user-ig5bo9yq9k 3 года назад +9

    My guess is the 5th ending would be siding with the Followers of the Apocalypse given their importance as a faction before having it cut down.

  • @chriskopp1361
    @chriskopp1361 3 года назад +13

    The 5th ending could've been the cloud ending of dead money.

  • @calmkat9032
    @calmkat9032 3 года назад +2

    3:42 I can't describe how this makes me feel. It's like hearing the voicemail of a long-gone friend that you never heard before.

  • @alfiemitchell3026
    @alfiemitchell3026 3 года назад +8

    I’d I had to guess what the “Fifth ending” was, I’m assuming it was working with Benny. However I imagine it was cut because it was too similar to both Mr House and Yes Man

    • @kokeshishikeko9775
      @kokeshishikeko9775 3 года назад +8

      Which is a damn shame, because Benny is hilarious and has a really interesting backstory, and you could easily argue that his plans for New Vegas were the best (freedom from both Legion & NCR, but without Mr. House's overly strict Big Brother-style leadership).
      Add in the fact that ruling alongside a Loki-type character is far more entertaining than doing it on your own or with the "partnership" of a robot who literally can't ever say no. Plus he has "Pet The Dog" moments that show that is is not irredeemable (there are two routes at The Tops where he lets you go unharmed instead of sending assassins after you, plus he leaves Emily Ortal alone even though she is a dangerous witness who could tell his plans to House), so there was the potential for a villain's redemption arc too, and those are always fun.
      I 100% would have chosen to side with Benny if I had been allowed to.

  • @wrxbumpin
    @wrxbumpin 3 года назад +5

    This is my favorite game. Please keep posting fnv cut content and hopefully this gem gets a remaster minus the time limit so we the gamers win

  • @fib900
    @fib900 3 года назад +4

    Dead Money was already in the works before New Vegas’ release, so the fifth ending could be the Elijah ending, although walking through a very dead world might not be all that fun

  • @MrChadsimoneaux
    @MrChadsimoneaux 3 года назад +1

    Really feels like there's more cut content than content!
    Glad we get to see it though, thanks.

  • @City17
    @City17 3 года назад +3

    Always so impressed how fantastic your videos are! You’re awesome!

  • @RedemptionDenied666
    @RedemptionDenied666 3 года назад +1

    18:24 I bet that line was accompanied by him suddenly wearing brotherhood power armour

  • @Beakybuzz13
    @Beakybuzz13 3 года назад +3

    Honestly hearing about how much was cut from this game and it still being great is amazing

  • @emred4653
    @emred4653 Год назад +3

    5th ending is probably when dam gets heavily damaged and none of the sides can use it

  • @kaseykania683
    @kaseykania683 3 года назад +23

    God imagine if they had even like another year of development :(

  • @gabethebabe3337
    @gabethebabe3337 3 года назад +10

    The 5th ending would have revealed your whole adventure was a fever dream and you're dying in your grave back at Goodsprings...Sad ending

    • @TriangleCity
      @TriangleCity  3 года назад +2

      Best ending

    • @fawkesprime
      @fawkesprime 3 года назад +4

      like a post-apocalyptic occurence at owl creek? i actually love that idea

  • @therobustmole1137
    @therobustmole1137 3 года назад +3

    I want ALL the cut content as a mod, would make me play the game at least 6 times more. Such an amazing game, can't get enough of it.

  • @The_Immortal_
    @The_Immortal_ 3 года назад +2

    Acceptable. Your videos make life under quarantine acceptable.

  • @watam8
    @watam8 3 года назад +7

    You don't know what the final ending is? It's the Snuffles ending.

  • @268_3
    @268_3 Год назад +1

    It's unbelievable that this game had so much cut content, that it could've pushed the game's review score to 90.

  • @Kk-tu4xs
    @Kk-tu4xs 3 года назад +3

    happy to see people still giving this game love!👍

  • @AlfaWAR
    @AlfaWAR 3 года назад +2

    By the audio / radio, I'd say ending #5 was a "failed to take over" ending.

  • @JJO117
    @JJO117 3 года назад +29

    new vegas is one of the Games that deserves a Remaster like Skyrim.

    • @Wolverine-ky9gk
      @Wolverine-ky9gk 3 года назад +1

      maybe its possible now that Microsoft owns both Obsidian and Bethesda.

  • @RobinSteiner
    @RobinSteiner Год назад +2

    I honestly would have no problem with them updating their games to add in post game content after release with other releases in the future.

  • @blaster702
    @blaster702 3 года назад +3

    I recall there being some statements that one of the endings was simply to leave the Mojave, that could potentially have been the fifth ending.

  • @JakeRyanBooth
    @JakeRyanBooth 8 месяцев назад +1

    Had they been given 3 or 4 years instead of a YEAR and some change, New Vegas would’ve been an entirely different game than what we got. Even as a rushed game, it still remains as the most popular among fans.

  • @Sofus.
    @Sofus. 3 года назад +11

    Hi have been wondering about the quest Why Can't We Be Friends? in Vault 19.
    helping Samuel Cooke or Philip Lem form an alliance between the Great Khans and the escaped convicts. Has no consequences and no impact on the Mojave as if something has landed on The Cutting Room Floor 📽🎬

    • @nickrustyson8124
      @nickrustyson8124 3 года назад +1

      Now I wonder would all of the Powder Gangers join the Khans?

    • @Sofus.
      @Sofus. 3 года назад

      @@nickrustyson8124 No they are marked as a separate fraction.

    • @nickrustyson8124
      @nickrustyson8124 3 года назад

      @@Sofus. I mean it could be possible after Vault 19 to suggest to Eddy about the Khans

  • @alvinobege7307
    @alvinobege7307 2 года назад

    20:06 damn, the whole Yes man monologue with the lofi music in the background really hit me in the feels somehow

  • @sirduncan3848
    @sirduncan3848 3 года назад +3

    I think the fifth ending has to do with father Eliijah. In dead money if you have maximum negative karma with the NCR and do the right things/pick the right dialogue you can help him spread the cloud to the mojave and take over basically.

  • @DOAxCyclist
    @DOAxCyclist 8 месяцев назад +1

    Me being a bike courier, and seeing Sawyer truing a wheel.....man....full circle

  • @jcferrell931
    @jcferrell931 3 года назад +3

    I think the fifth ending is in reference to if one sided with Yes Man and whether or not they destroyed the bunker. Considering the stark differences in outcomes based on that lone decision, the post-endgame world would likely require a whole separate state.

  • @TsutomuGindi
    @TsutomuGindi 9 месяцев назад +1

    I imagine the fifth ending they referenced was the ending in the Casino dlc with Father Elijah and essentially gassing New Vegas with the cloud

  • @DrScum-vj5to
    @DrScum-vj5to 3 года назад +3

    there is a fifth ending
    where you side with Elaija in dead money dlc

  • @JacksterDude12
    @JacksterDude12 3 года назад

    The cut dialogue alone made me seriously geek out as a Fallout fan. Thanks for the effort dude, great video 👍🏼

    • @JacksterDude12
      @JacksterDude12 3 года назад

      Must also say how well voice acted those lines were! Very immersive and heartfelt

  • @alexberthon
    @alexberthon Год назад +6

    5 endings, one being legion without ceasar?

    • @adot704
      @adot704 8 месяцев назад +1

      i think it’s that or an everyone loses ending

  • @tanithsfinest
    @tanithsfinest 2 месяца назад +1

    @2:32 the fifth ending is real! Wild wasteland perk, plus lead belly early on. you then kill benny, take the chip to house, and eat it. no platinum chip ending.

    • @jdjdjjdd7180
      @jdjdjjdd7180 2 месяца назад

      it’s a mod bro 💀💀

  • @Darknal199
    @Darknal199 3 года назад +4

    Maybe since Obsidian and Bethesda can work together if microsoft says so, we might get a Vegas Remake with all cut content restored

    • @Darknal199
      @Darknal199 3 года назад

      That's an oxymoron if I've ever seen one^

  • @DeeZire
    @DeeZire 3 года назад +2

    Yet another brilliant video, love these!!

  • @HellishSpoon
    @HellishSpoon 3 года назад +3

    I think the 5th ending could be like a alternate yes man ending where the courier decided to make all the destructive choices
    Basically serving as "killed every one" ending

  • @matizdomonkoscsaba540
    @matizdomonkoscsaba540 4 месяца назад +1

    The fifth ending is when Ceasar dies, but the Legion still wins the dam.

  • @gkdunch
    @gkdunch 3 года назад +11

    imagine if this game is remastered and these additions are able to be put in, as the main selling point of the remaster along with more stability and better graphics, gameplay, etc

  • @horse_dog
    @horse_dog 9 месяцев назад +2

    isn’t there a cut NCR-House ending where they work together?

    • @TriangleCity
      @TriangleCity  9 месяцев назад +3

      Not so much working together as House conceding to the NCR and getting to retain a small degree of control over the Strip iirc

  • @daJNX
    @daJNX 9 месяцев назад +4

    I know I'm 3 years late, but the 5th ending, could that be Father Elijah's ending?

    • @Enjoyer19111
      @Enjoyer19111 9 месяцев назад +1

      Possibly but it could also mean something else entirely since it was before the DLCs were made.

  • @IcefireC67
    @IcefireC67 2 года назад +2

    I had this batshit insane idea for a post-game for new vegas weeks ago
    Essentially, you would join your chosen faction to take over the other 2 "bases" he other factions occupy
    And then, after thats over your chosen faction would begin to slowly populate the other towns and cities
    That way, it doesnt cause too many issues when establishing a post-game

  • @byronholt2031
    @byronholt2031 2 года назад +3

    If you manage to kill every brotherhood member (excluding Veronica) without being detected (and therefore not losing reputation) AND ending the game with either the legion or Mr House (and I am also pretty sure you can't make an NCR-Brotherhood alliance for this to work) you can actually get the "Brotherhood takes Helios One" ending slide on the current release.

  • @ghostrideralex11
    @ghostrideralex11 8 месяцев назад +1

    The fifth ending is the Sierra Madre ending, where Elijah and the courier release the mist into the wasteland.

  • @demturkeys1811
    @demturkeys1811 3 года назад +9

    Aye I caught a fresh one! Keep em coming man, you're videos ooze charm a style.
    Do you have any have any planns to do other Bethesda games, like fallout 3 cut content in your unique format?

    • @demturkeys1811
      @demturkeys1811 3 года назад +2

      Although I know for a fact that few would've had as much cut content cut out as New Vegas, do to Obsidian's time constraints.

  • @petebagwell6666
    @petebagwell6666 9 месяцев назад +1

    Imagine how much better this game would of been if they were given a reasonable time frame to finish it