I had this game and is one of the bests ever indeed. Great graphics and gameplay. But is not very famous I think it was produced by small company from Spain if I´m not mistaken and many people still dont know this game.
I owned 13 or 14 of the games on this list. Fighting games and beat 'em ups was my thing at the time. Back then, I wasn't very well informed and where I lived there weren't many arcade machines, so I didn't realise how bad the ports of many of these games were. I remember eventually we got a second hand Mega Drive. I must admit, I started to resent the Amiga for some time after that. So many of the games I was interested in got completely butchered on the Amiga. Also, I'm pretty sure it could technically support three button controllers (though the vast majority of games only support one button, very few supported two and I'm not even sure if any games/controllers exist that supported the three it was capable of). I was late to the party with Mega Drive. Reliable joypads with multiple buttons was a real eye opener. I started thinking how much more I would have enjoyed most of the games I grew up with if they'd simply had a jump button. Most of the joysticks I owned weren't particularly good (the best of which were Competition Pro knock-offs) and the cumulative time I've spent raging due to missed diagonal jumps probably adds up to days. I love Amiga for nostalgic reasons and it's great if you stick to the games it did well. However, I think I would have been better off with a NES for the early days and a Mega Drive or SNES for the latter days (probably the Mega Drive due to my taste in games back then). On the whole, games were generally more polished on consoles (I'm guessing due to higher production values), particularly when it came to high profile titles. The Amiga excels in the "hidden gem" category.
Great vid man. Particularly enjoyed your mention of Shadow Warriors, a game I adored on the Amiga for basically all of the reasons you outlined. Incidentally, if you've never seen it on the Spectrum, it's definitely worth a look. what they did with the colour in that version really blew my mind as a kid. Have to disagree with you over Final Fight though. To me it looked like something that was designed to look good on a magazine page while in practice, totally failed to convey any of the elegance of the arcade original. In particular, I loved pushing left or right into a crowd of baddies while hammering the attack button, pulling off swift punch/spinning kick combos with Guy. This was totally absent on the Amiga version. Guy's moves were identical in speed to Haggar's, too many essential anim frames were cut, and besides which, pushing left/right and fire bypassed the attacks and went straight for a single hit flying kick. anyone who's played the awesome Target; Renegade knows that "up" should be involved in executing the flying kick and by omitting that, you introduce a certain cheapness to the game's controls... anyway. Dead right about Double Dragon 2 though. Awesome conversion! My only issue with your list man is: where the heck was Franko and Doman? Admittedly, I only discovered those after the Amiga heyday, but World software made two seminal brawlers, oozing charm and personality. They should definitely be recognised for it. Also, I can't help but feel that the awesome Moonstone was every bit as much a brawler as it was an RPG. Anyway, we're getting into MY list here and maybe that's a video for another day. ;)
+1GO ShortPlay Retro Games it was a lovely aspect conversion with super big, chunky visuals. If I ever get round to doing a Top Speccy list, Shadow Warriors will certainly be on it!
Help me, please! I was a child when I played with our Amiga 500, so I can't remember the game I'm looking for. I only remember that it was a beat em up, and that you could choose the next level when you cleared one, like in a tree of choices (and you could also choose an already cleared level and beat em up from left to right!). Please, anyone remembers the title of that game? I know these are only a few informations, but it's all I can remember!
The poor old Amiga was sorely lacking in the beat 'em up department, which is a shame as it could do them quite well given the right programmer and dev team. Double Dragon II, Shadow Warriors, and Golden Axe are all great, but three good games out of a library of hundreds is really poor.
They had Ninja Gaiden at the bowling alley arcade close to my house growing up. I loved the nes game but always wondered why they never put the arcade game on the Sega Genesis. Also the turtles game looks way better then the Nes version.
lol I remember playing DD on my friend's Amiga.... when we got to like level 3 I think his computer ran out of memory and everything was white and it crashed
My friend and I would play that version of Double Dragon for hours together. Back then we saw nothing wrong with it and we thought it was bad ass. I still do
Double Dragon????? really??? its my favorite arcade game of all time...and i can get away with it even on the NES cos the gameplay is good on there...but never in my life have i seen such a lazy port of a game (this includes the almost identically bad Atari Port) i was letting some of these games slip as i know you were sticking to the side scrolling beat em up rule and the choice of good ones are sparce, but to even have DD anywhere near the top 20 is a joke However... i do agree with your number 1 ...thats a brilliant game :-)
+old style gaming as I said in the video, it is indeed a crummy port...but it's also still a fun game to play despite its problems. Much like a lot of games on the list, back in this era of gaming, a "good" port was considered to be one that kept the feel of the original arcade game intact, and DD Amiga did, despite the fact that the port was weak when you look back at it now. However, when the Amiga version was released in early 1988, it was widely considered to be the best conversion of the game at the time (The Megadrive port wasn't released until 4 years later in 1992). Aside from the arcade, the Amiga version is the one I grew up with, and despite its flaws it still remains a favourite of mine.
ok well everyone to their own, but like i said DD is my all time favorite game....like ever, and i dont think the Amiga version keeps the 'feel' of the arcade at all and i have never (even at the time of the Amiga release) heard of it being called the best conversion of the game.
Nope, there's no official link between the two games in any way. I'm sure that the developers of Beast Lord may have been "inspired" a little by SOTB's visuals, though.
This video really makes me want to cry. This genre was so badly done on Amiga.... most of the games on that list are AWFUL (Vigilante, Final Fight, Double Dragon, TMNT...), some are pretty bad.. Shadow Warriors, Dynamite Dux, Golden Axe and Double Dragon 2 are the only ones that are ... average. Ninja Warriors is probably the best game on this list, and it's still not all that good (and the lack of vertical movement puts it on a different gente of the other games IMO... same with Barbarian II.. and OK, Vigilante, but I had to mention Vigilante because the Amiga version is one of the worst games I ever played on my life on any system). *no* game on this list is really good. Because no good beat'em up was ever made for Amiga, and this is a disgrace! (No, not even Franko e Doman, games that deserved to be on this list in place of awful stuff like Vigilante and DD1 are good). It's really a shame, because the machine could produce a good game on the genre, but no one ever did :(
Sorry but i have to disagree with this list a lot of the games on here are very lazy arcade ports with borken controls boring sfx and graphics ripped from the atari st they make the amiga look the atari jaguar.
Which ones? This genre is severly lacking on Amiga, and he even had to add stuff like Shadow Dancer which is not a Beat'em up. Most of the games on this list are awful, but you won't find many better ones. (Well, you could. Franko is way better than shitty Double Dragon)
#20: i actually LIKE the Genesis/Megadrive port of this game, i think it's highly underrated just because of how it's graphics look, though the cheap deaths in the game hurt it so much in rating.
I was never a big fan if arcade coversions on the Amiga, most of them did a poor job considering the hardware the Amiga had so I mostly stuck to games that ware designed for the Amiga which for me at least ware far better.
Not sure what you mean when you state a game. "Terrible arcade conversation, unplayable, rubbish feel of a game blah blah blah, but it is fantastic and a very playable and fun"....." What the hell you talking about. Is it good or not????
I assume you’re talking about the Renegade segment in Particular. The Amiga version of Renegade is a poor conversion of the arcade game. Many versions were far superior to the Amiga one, but, at the end of the day, it’s still really enjoyable to play. if the game is fun, that’s all that really matters.
The only good game on this list (ninja warriors) isn't a beat em up. The only good beat em up on Amiga is DD2. Oh, I forgot.. Shadow Warriors was decent too, and indeed a brawler. But many games on your video simply are not!
The arcade conversions did but they ware poor to begin with, a lot of the other games ages more or less as well as other systems did, more so games that took advantage of the Amiga hardware and pretty much all the games I saw in this video could've been much better on the Amiga if they used the hardware better.
Golden Axe, Franko Crazy Revenge and Doman nothing more. Final Fight Amiga wer.? Please ROTFL Terrible crap. Even Double Dragon Amiga was poor. DD2 maybe, but this work only for Old Fat Amiga Chipset.
Ok man... The only truly good game on this list is Shadow Dancer which isn't even a proper beat'em up, and the ones that aren't a pice of shit are Motorhead, Golden Axe, Double Dragon 2, Shadow Warriors (too slow) and Ninja Warriors (lots of problems , but the arcade version had them too), and how this isn't your top 5 I can't understand. And then Dragon Ninja coming at 6th because it does manage to stay a little bit above "piece of shit" Dynamite Dux was also too slow to be any enjoyable. Final Fight on Amiga is AWFUL, you can easily get cornered and can't be able to do anything but watch your character getting beaten until energy runs out. Double Dragon 1 would be in my top 10 list of worst conversion on Amiga (and this says a lot, since the Amiga is full of crap conversions). Vigilante would probably be on that list too, it plays like shit, its completely unplayable. Dynasty Wars also is a joke. Now take a look at those 4 games you probably don't know (no way a list with Double Dragon , Vigilante and Dynasty Wars won't have those if you knew those games): Franko: The Crazy Revenge Doman Street Hassle Prawo Krwi None of those games are masterpieces (I doubt anyone would even call them good - the last one in special is awful), but they are all better games than crap like Dynasty Wars and aren't very well known games.... if you don't know them, take a look :) They all came from Poland .
Street Hassle nearly made the list. I personally prefer the ZX Spectrum / C64 versions. For some reason the Amiga and Nes versions of the game lost some of their appeal during the transition. It's still fun though. Prawo Kwri is a wonderful looking Amiga game, but it didn't feel right in the control department. Franko was absolutely dreadful - aside from the blood and swearing, the game was a snoozefest. It's one of the only brawler types of game that I got bored of during the first 2 levels. Doman was a little better than Franko, but had long sections of just walking right without doing anything. Attacking was sluggish, and the game relied heavily on gore as it's only selling point.
To be completely honest all of them look really awful,especially Double Dragon!The characters there literally look mentally challenged! I never played anything on Amiga,but why every single game runs with such choppy framerate,is it because of your capturing devise,or are they just like that?I mean,even the ones you are praising look super choppy!
edgarector choppiness is a mixture of 2 factors. 1. Much like arcade games at the time, most Amiga titles were designed for 15khz RGB monitors. When displaying them on modern screens and capturing with modern capture cards, the frame rates can be a little different to what they’re supposed to be. 2. A lot of Amiga games were ported from the lower powered Atari ST. Many of the games on this video could have been even better if the Amiga version was unleashed from Atari’s shackles, as titles on the upper end of the list demonstrate. The 16-Bit computers of this generation weren’t exactly reknowned for their fighting games, but, in my opinion, considering the fact that these games ran on hardware that was released in 1985 (the same year the NES was launched in the US), I think they’re pretty cool.
Juganawt Yeah,if the hardware was indeed that old,some of those games are impressive! Megadrive/Genesis hardware is 1989 and I've seen such feats on it,that it completely outclasses Amiga,taking in consideration everything!
I lol'd at "touch my bell end"
Jugg as a semi longtime sub I'm so glad to see your channels growth
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I remember playing the hell out of Golden Axe Shadow Warrior and Last Battle.
Great video, thanks. It made me discover Motorhead and Beast Lord. They both look very good and interesting.
How bout Moonstone, great video and very enjoyable.
Blimey, lots of games here I haven't play, need to get on that.
Nice list
what about after the war ..that was an amazing beat em up also
I had this game and is one of the bests ever indeed. Great graphics and gameplay. But is not very famous I think it was produced by small company from Spain if I´m not mistaken and many people still dont know this game.
Not really a fan of "Top ##" videos but some really interesting choices and thoughts on them. :)
Damage is my favorite platform beat 'em up on the AMIGA.
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nice list man :D old video brings you a new sub !!!
Great Top!!!
I owned 13 or 14 of the games on this list. Fighting games and beat 'em ups was my thing at the time. Back then, I wasn't very well informed and where I lived there weren't many arcade machines, so I didn't realise how bad the ports of many of these games were. I remember eventually we got a second hand Mega Drive. I must admit, I started to resent the Amiga for some time after that.
So many of the games I was interested in got completely butchered on the Amiga. Also, I'm pretty sure it could technically support three button controllers (though the vast majority of games only support one button, very few supported two and I'm not even sure if any games/controllers exist that supported the three it was capable of). I was late to the party with Mega Drive. Reliable joypads with multiple buttons was a real eye opener. I started thinking how much more I would have enjoyed most of the games I grew up with if they'd simply had a jump button. Most of the joysticks I owned weren't particularly good (the best of which were Competition Pro knock-offs) and the cumulative time I've spent raging due to missed diagonal jumps probably adds up to days.
I love Amiga for nostalgic reasons and it's great if you stick to the games it did well. However, I think I would have been better off with a NES for the early days and a Mega Drive or SNES for the latter days (probably the Mega Drive due to my taste in games back then). On the whole, games were generally more polished on consoles (I'm guessing due to higher production values), particularly when it came to high profile titles. The Amiga excels in the "hidden gem" category.
Where is :Franko the crazy revenge"? from Poland.????
I didnt enjoy it. The movement speeds killed it
Great vid man. Particularly enjoyed your mention of Shadow Warriors, a game I adored on the Amiga for basically all of the reasons you outlined. Incidentally, if you've never seen it on the Spectrum, it's definitely worth a look. what they did with the colour in that version really blew my mind as a kid.
Have to disagree with you over Final Fight though. To me it looked like something that was designed to look good on a magazine page while in practice, totally failed to convey any of the elegance of the arcade original. In particular, I loved pushing left or right into a crowd of baddies while hammering the attack button, pulling off swift punch/spinning kick combos with Guy. This was totally absent on the Amiga version. Guy's moves were identical in speed to Haggar's, too many essential anim frames were cut, and besides which, pushing left/right and fire bypassed the attacks and went straight for a single hit flying kick. anyone who's played the awesome Target; Renegade knows that "up" should be involved in executing the flying kick and by omitting that, you introduce a certain cheapness to the game's controls... anyway.
Dead right about Double Dragon 2 though. Awesome conversion!
My only issue with your list man is: where the heck was Franko and Doman? Admittedly, I only discovered those after the Amiga heyday, but World software made two seminal brawlers, oozing charm and personality. They should definitely be recognised for it. Also, I can't help but feel that the awesome Moonstone was every bit as much a brawler as it was an RPG. Anyway, we're getting into MY list here and maybe that's a video for another day. ;)
+1GO ShortPlay Retro Games it was a lovely aspect conversion with super big, chunky visuals. If I ever get round to doing a Top Speccy list, Shadow Warriors will certainly be on it!
Did not like Franko and Doman, personally. Too repetitive. I do have a soft spot for the polish Amiga translation of Street Hassle, though.
Help me, please!
I was a child when I played with our Amiga 500, so I can't remember the game I'm looking for. I only remember that it was a beat em up, and that you could choose the next level when you cleared one, like in a tree of choices (and you could also choose an already cleared level and beat em up from left to right!). Please, anyone remembers the title of that game? I know these are only a few informations, but it's all I can remember!
The poor old Amiga was sorely lacking in the beat 'em up department, which is a shame as it could do them quite well given the right programmer and dev team. Double Dragon II, Shadow Warriors, and Golden Axe are all great, but three good games out of a library of hundreds is really poor.
I had almost all of these, and 2 of them were original! ;)
very good..
Thank you!
They had Ninja Gaiden at the bowling alley arcade close to my house growing up. I loved the nes game but always wondered why they never put the arcade game on the Sega Genesis. Also the turtles game looks way better then the Nes version.
lol I remember playing DD on my friend's Amiga.... when we got to like level 3 I think his computer ran out of memory and everything was white and it crashed
My friend and I would play that version of Double Dragon for hours together. Back then we saw nothing wrong with it and we thought it was bad ass. I still do
Golden axe
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daniel pepin precisely. At the time, outside of the arcade, it was the best you could get, and it was a lot of fun!
I only had a C64, these Amiga games have always looked great to me!
Double Dragon????? really??? its my favorite arcade game of all time...and i can get away with it even on the NES cos the gameplay is good on there...but never in my life have i seen such a lazy port of a game (this includes the almost identically bad Atari Port) i was letting some of these games slip as i know you were sticking to the side scrolling beat em up rule and the choice of good ones are sparce, but to even have DD anywhere near the top 20 is a joke
However... i do agree with your number 1 ...thats a brilliant game :-)
+old style gaming as I said in the video, it is indeed a crummy port...but it's also still a fun game to play despite its problems. Much like a lot of games on the list, back in this era of gaming, a "good" port was considered to be one that kept the feel of the original arcade game intact, and DD Amiga did, despite the fact that the port was weak when you look back at it now. However, when the Amiga version was released in early 1988, it was widely considered to be the best conversion of the game at the time (The Megadrive port wasn't released until 4 years later in 1992). Aside from the arcade, the Amiga version is the one I grew up with, and despite its flaws it still remains a favourite of mine.
ok well everyone to their own, but like i said DD is my all time favorite game....like ever, and i dont think the Amiga version keeps the 'feel' of the arcade at all and i have never (even at the time of the Amiga release) heard of it being called the best conversion of the game.
my top 3 are: Golden Axe, Motorhead and After the war
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Sword of Sodan at 20?? That should be MUCH higher!
Back in the day, on it's launch, it'd have been in the top 5. However, time has dulled it's edge somewhat.
Is beast lord connected to shadow of the beast in any way? The engine and art are similar
Nope, there's no official link between the two games in any way. I'm sure that the developers of Beast Lord may have been "inspired" a little by SOTB's visuals, though.
This video really makes me want to cry. This genre was so badly done on Amiga.... most of the games on that list are AWFUL (Vigilante, Final Fight, Double Dragon, TMNT...), some are pretty bad.. Shadow Warriors, Dynamite Dux, Golden Axe and Double Dragon 2 are the only ones that are ... average. Ninja Warriors is probably the best game on this list, and it's still not all that good (and the lack of vertical movement puts it on a different gente of the other games IMO... same with Barbarian II.. and OK, Vigilante, but I had to mention Vigilante because the Amiga version is one of the worst games I ever played on my life on any system).
*no* game on this list is really good. Because no good beat'em up was ever made for Amiga, and this is a disgrace! (No, not even Franko e Doman, games that deserved to be on this list in place of awful stuff like Vigilante and DD1 are good). It's really a shame, because the machine could produce a good game on the genre, but no one ever did :(
Rafael Lima final fight was great dude
Sorry but i have to disagree with this list a lot of the games on here are very lazy arcade ports with borken controls boring sfx and graphics ripped from the atari st they make the amiga look the atari jaguar.
Well everyone has their own opinion, what games would you would've put?
completely agree with betarage. missing out on many great side scrolling beatemups here.
Which ones? This genre is severly lacking on Amiga, and he even had to add stuff like Shadow Dancer which is not a Beat'em up.
Most of the games on this list are awful, but you won't find many better ones.
(Well, you could. Franko is way better than shitty Double Dragon)
Final Fight was a one man show
Is the Amiga capable of doing 16:9 graphics? Or the screen is stretched?
The screen is not stretched. The overscan was cropped, and the games were zoomed in to the nearest multiplier that showed the full image on-screen.
#20: i actually LIKE the Genesis/Megadrive port of this game, i think it's highly underrated just because of how it's graphics look, though the cheap deaths in the game hurt it so much in rating.
I was never a big fan if arcade coversions on the Amiga, most of them did a poor job considering the hardware the Amiga had so I mostly stuck to games that ware designed for the Amiga which for me at least ware far better.
Do a NES list
Renegade the worst wersion of classik, ninja gaiden is awesome
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Not sure what you mean when you state a game. "Terrible arcade conversation, unplayable, rubbish feel of a game blah blah blah, but it is fantastic and a very playable and fun"....." What the hell you talking about. Is it good or not????
I assume you’re talking about the Renegade segment in Particular. The Amiga version of Renegade is a poor conversion of the arcade game. Many versions were far superior to the Amiga one, but, at the end of the day, it’s still really enjoyable to play.
if the game is fun, that’s all that really matters.
Moonstone?
It's not a brawler. Parts of the game involve brawler mechanics, but its technically classed as an Action RPG
The only good game on this list (ninja warriors) isn't a beat em up. The only good beat em up on Amiga is DD2. Oh, I forgot.. Shadow Warriors was decent too, and indeed a brawler. But many games on your video simply are not!
Not a great lst pal. Almost as bad as rating your best FIFA game
compared other systems, the amiga games aged terribly
The arcade conversions did but they ware poor to begin with, a lot of the other games ages more or less as well as other systems did, more so games that took advantage of the Amiga hardware and pretty much all the games I saw in this video could've been much better on the Amiga if they used the hardware better.
Golden Axe, Franko Crazy Revenge and Doman nothing more. Final Fight Amiga wer.? Please ROTFL Terrible crap. Even Double Dragon Amiga was poor. DD2 maybe, but this work only for Old Fat Amiga Chipset.
Ok man... The only truly good game on this list is Shadow Dancer which isn't even a proper beat'em up, and the ones that aren't a pice of shit are Motorhead, Golden Axe, Double Dragon 2, Shadow Warriors (too slow) and Ninja Warriors (lots of problems , but the arcade version had them too), and how this isn't your top 5 I can't understand. And then Dragon Ninja coming at 6th because it does manage to stay a little bit above "piece of shit"
Dynamite Dux was also too slow to be any enjoyable.
Final Fight on Amiga is AWFUL, you can easily get cornered and can't be able to do anything but watch your character getting beaten until energy runs out. Double Dragon 1 would be in my top 10 list of worst conversion on Amiga (and this says a lot, since the Amiga is full of crap conversions). Vigilante would probably be on that list too, it plays like shit, its completely unplayable. Dynasty Wars also is a joke.
Now take a look at those 4 games you probably don't know (no way a list with Double Dragon , Vigilante and Dynasty Wars won't have those if you knew those games):
Franko: The Crazy Revenge
Doman
Street Hassle
Prawo Krwi
None of those games are masterpieces (I doubt anyone would even call them good - the last one in special is awful), but they are all better games than crap like Dynasty Wars and aren't very well known games.... if you don't know them, take a look :) They all came from Poland .
Street Hassle nearly made the list. I personally prefer the ZX Spectrum / C64 versions. For some reason the Amiga and Nes versions of the game lost some of their appeal during the transition. It's still fun though.
Prawo Kwri is a wonderful looking Amiga game, but it didn't feel right in the control department.
Franko was absolutely dreadful - aside from the blood and swearing, the game was a snoozefest. It's one of the only brawler types of game that I got bored of during the first 2 levels.
Doman was a little better than Franko, but had long sections of just walking right without doing anything. Attacking was sluggish, and the game relied heavily on gore as it's only selling point.
To be completely honest all of them look really awful,especially Double Dragon!The characters there literally look mentally challenged!
I never played anything on Amiga,but why every single game runs with such choppy framerate,is it because of your capturing devise,or are they just like that?I mean,even the ones you are praising look super choppy!
edgarector choppiness is a mixture of 2 factors.
1. Much like arcade games at the time, most Amiga titles were designed for 15khz RGB monitors. When displaying them on modern screens and capturing with modern capture cards, the frame rates can be a little different to what they’re supposed to be.
2. A lot of Amiga games were ported from the lower powered Atari ST. Many of the games on this video could have been even better if the Amiga version was unleashed from Atari’s shackles, as titles on the upper end of the list demonstrate.
The 16-Bit computers of this generation weren’t exactly reknowned for their fighting games, but, in my opinion, considering the fact that these games ran on hardware that was released in 1985 (the same year the NES was launched in the US), I think they’re pretty cool.
Juganawt Yeah,if the hardware was indeed that old,some of those games are impressive!
Megadrive/Genesis hardware is 1989 and I've seen such feats on it,that it completely outclasses Amiga,taking in consideration everything!
No franko ? Shame ...