St Croix Rod: Legend Xtreme vs Victory
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- Опубликовано: 11 авг 2021
- Let’s compare two of my favorite rods from the St Croix line up. The Legend Xtreme put up against Victory. It’s incredible where St Croix’s technology and engineering is going. What’s next??? Let’s talk about the science! Enjoy! #DreamBig #StCroixRods #BestRodsOnEarth #LegendXtreme #Victory
Sorry I missed this explanation when you first published it. This is a very through and detailed explanation of these rods. Great work! 👏🏿👏🏿🎣
Just watched your convo with the guys at SFT. Awesome program! Learned a lot. Gonna head over there and grab a Victory spinning rod and vanford 2500.
Pew yie!! That's some beautiful rods! Good reviews!
Thanks Derek, fantastic breakdown of these two product lines!
I just took my new 7’3” MH Victory out on the water for the first time today. I flipped 5/16 Texas Rig and was very impressed. I had no problems detecting all my bites, and its a blast to fish with. I really liked how it loads up on fish.
Thanks for all your recommendations!
Awesome bro!
Good stuff bud thanks,keep it up 👍
Great review and comparison! I really love my 3 Victory rods! St Croix’s customer service is also excellent.
Great video. Thanks
good job on your review , very informative
Excellent video, I own a Legend Xtreme and it's an awesome fishing rod!
You just convinced me my $700 rod is worth more than my house 😂
Nice little collection of empty bottles back there! 👌 🤣 I gotta save up for the legend xtremes! Great breakdown between the two rods!
Which extreme model would you get for t rigs and 1/2 jigs and lighter, not to long ? Thanks sir Merry Christmas!
This is an X-Tremely informative video. Thanks!!! Just subscribed, Liked, & hit the 🔔!
2 Questions!
1. Would you recommend the Victory for inshore fishing? I am in the Texas gulf coast area. Usually fish for Speckled trout, Flounder, Redfish, etc.
2, If so, should I purchase the medium or medium heavy? I have a Penn Battle 3 that I am pairing it with.
Thanks, & keep up the great work!
Great info, what would you use the extreme legend for? And the victory for? As to type of fishing frogs texas rig etc etc
St Croix make really good rods and they back them up with a great warranty. I love their Legend Glass rods for cranking. :)
Great video.i have a new Shimano stradic hg , 5000 spinning reel ,witch st croix rod do I need for both large mouth bass and striped bass I really would like to know thanks
Is the 7’1 MHF victory grunt good for texas rig worms or casting jigs 1/2 or less???
So I’m looking for a 6’9 mh. Fast-according to the the mojo bass action. A spinnerbait round around cover. One that can handle 3/8 and 1/2 the same. Does st croix offer this?
What’s a good daily reel for the 7’1” Legend Xtreme MH/VF caster rod? It’ll be my only fishing combo for fishing freshwater in NY so maybe the Dawai Zillion SV TW G 7.1.1?
Hey Mr. Derek, I am wanting to order a Victory for a spinnerbait rod, what would the best action be for 1/4 oz, to 3/4 oz spinnerbaits?
I have a victory mhf i walleye with a 1oz harness rig ,whats your opinion of that set up
The Extremes aren't the lightest rods out there. A tad tip heavy. But they are very sensitive and Tough! I mainly use these rods for musky and pike fishing. Easily throw lures at the top end of the max lure rating. The 7'4'' is a workhorse. It's mainly my frog rod but I throw swimbaits for musky with this. 50lb Braid, nothing can escape. The 7' medium 5/8 max lure weight rod, I love to toss a Mepps Aglia #5 for pike. Plenty of power to drive the hooks deep!
You didn't mention that the grips on the Extreme are actually part of the blank, not added later line most rods. That process takes many hours...... hence the price. Another reason they came up with the Victory was the drop in sales for their $600 rods. Not many guys buy those.
I love the legend tournament
Why don't you compare same level rods like NRX+ or Shimano Poison or Megabass Destroyer P5 or Steez RD?
Derek, have you had an opportunity to fish the Legend Tournament Bass compared to the Victory? Wondering if the LTB is more sensitive/better feedback than the Victory line of rods?? I really like the look of the LTB, but wonder if it truly is a step up over the Victory line of rods.
10 months late here -- but I hate the spinning Victory series. I didn't think they were nearly as sensitive as my cheaper rods. Handled fish great, but they were fragile rods. I broke 3 Victory series on the tips before I said screw it and upgraded to the LTB.
IMO the LTB and Victory aren't even remotely comparable rods. LTB is light years ahead of the Victory. I can't comment on the casting rods though of either lineup yet,
@@FatJeffStew I've heard the very same feedback from many people about the overall quality of the victory line of rods. I fished one of the more popular models and it just felt like a dead stick in my hands. Super parabolic which would have made it a decent finesse crankbait rod but from a sensitivity standpoint it was garbage. I've been thinking about the legend tournament bass series as an option for me to try and I just wanted to hear feedback from people who have fished it in terms of the sensitivity of that line of rods compared to others brands in that same price point.
@@nawinchester I went from a 7'3" ML XF Victory to the equivalent LTB model and its still decently parabolic (is is a ML though and it has backbone once you get through the bend), but I can feel a lot more.
Went from a 6' 8" M XF AvidX to the equivalent LTB model and that rod is absolutely nutty on sensitivity. Throwing swimbaits up into a dam wall with current and slack in the line and was still able to feel sauger/walleye pick it up.
Planning on upgrade my casting Mojobass to probably the LTB Warhorse model this year too.
My only complaint about the Legend Extreme is that I need to pair it with an Exist so that thing cost $1500. I like the Victory because I can pair that rod with an equal budget reel like a tatula lol
I bought the victory yesterday at sportsman’s warehouse. 7’1”
Honestly, St Croix are probably the best rods you can spend your money on in every price category. I don’t have the budget for the extreme series but I have a few triumphs a bass x,mojo bass, premier and soon to be victory rod and can say they’re all great and every price point family has a rod that will fit your fishing style. Fit and finish at any price compared to similarly priced rods from other companies just can’t compare.
Dont sleep on the avid
please the XFC74HF it s writing 25 lb . it is real or under the reality ?? 30lb is it ?? or more pleasz csn you said me
I have 7 victories..loves them
I love legend extreme but I don't fish tournaments but the victory I love this rods I have Full Contact 3/8 to 11/4 I put a Shimano Calcutta G.T.B. 250 I took a lot of time to learn but I never set the hook on a fish no matter which lure I use I also have Mojo Bass in a spinning rod 3/16 to 5/8 the victory is better you see I play blues guitar and I think I I bought the Mojo Bass for the name any way I love both rods they fit my needs who knows maybe some day I will have Legend rod !!!!!!!!
I like your dry state
I can say the faceing sonar takes all this away now if you don’t have it then yes I can see sensitivity playing a big roll. But I think it would be smarter buying the sonar Lol now I’m not raining on the roads they are great rods I’m just giving my opinion
I have a Victory and the old Legend Xtreme. The Victory is great, but the Legend Xtreme is clearly superior. You said the Victory is a step down from the new version of the Legend Xtreme. Where would you put the Legend Tournament and Legend Elite series since they're at least marketed and priced between the two rods you mentioned.
These Elite and Tournament are different in design. From the grip, real seat to the eyes. It’s just a personal preference on how it feels to you. We all like different things
I’ve got a couple legend extreme rods, a couple legend tournament, a couple mojo bass, a couple G Loomis, and a Thorne Bros custom. The custom rod is by far the best out of the bunch. The sensitivity and balance is far beyond any of the others.
@@kevindrake4001 what option did you go with for bass fishing? also can i use it as a paddle tail swimbait rod?
@@CRUAlucard I’d suggest you call Thorne Bros and kinda explain what type of fishing you plan on doing. They have extremely friendly and knowledgeable staff. I’m sure they will be able to set you up with something that you’ll love.
@@kevindrake4001 thx man I’ll do that
I prefer my cork handle Xtreme over the redesign which I don't even use anymore.
Im just gonna stick to my two st criox legend tournament 7'1 n 7'3
The Xtreme is NOT a light rod. It feels light because of the heavier than usual handle giving the rod a balance point closer to to the reel seat. This balance is back inches compared to say a St. Croix Elite. Rods with rearward balance points always feel lighter as a general rule even if they are not. Loomis Edge rods are all built this way also. Because of the Xtreme's additional weight may hinder the sensitivity. If you were to weigh a Loomis NRX+ compared to a Extreme you would find OUNCES of a difference. I am not saying the Extreme is not of the same quality or subpar just that it's overall weight makes it actually heavier than the average rod. I would bet the Victory weighs considerably less than the Xtreme.
How about the avid rods
Will this rods handle saltwater fish
The Saint Croix rods are probably the best rods made all over the world nowadays. But !! The explications, dear Derek, you gave us could be sooo better and most of all, they could be truer !! There will never have rod guides which will make a rod 200 bucks more expensive ! Carbon fibers can't be soldered and/or agglomerated with carbone fibers : You can't make a rod blank without resins ! R&D makes a fishing rod expensive, high end carbon tissue make a fishing rod expensive, but NOTHING explains a 600 dollars rpice point for a freshwater rod !! Oh yes !! Marketing can do this ;)
Can u use them in saltwater
It was built for saltwater
I guess I will be getting a victory.
The legend xtreme rods aren’t even that light. The victory rods are lighter than the xtremes by a big margin. Your mainly paying more for sensitivity and maybe balance
Hmmm… that’s not accurate. Both are light which equals sensitivity. But the Xtreme is lighter. Fact
@@derekhudnall3227 Did you actually bother to do some research and look up the weights before you made a false statement like that? The weights are on St Croix website. Legend Xtremes are heavier. Fact
My apologies sir, you are correct. From engineering, they go by the weight of the blank without components. The blank of the Xtreme is lighter, but with components the Victory is lighter. Again, my apologies
@@derekhudnall3227 I’m guessing all of the weight of the Xtreme is in the handle and that’s why they balance so well. I actually have two of them, great rods
Your comment made me research more, you are correct. The weight difference is in the handle. The cork handle on the Victory is what makes it a bit lighter. Even though the energy transfer is significantly less in cork, it’s what makes it lighter
no inshore spinning rod on this planet is worth 650$ bucks 240$ for my avid inshore is the max i pay and it's awesome