Tyvm for this… shared with my four children, some of whom will install a sump in my vt basement… used my submersible pump yesterday evening to clear five inches out of my basement… no furnishings down there!
add a freeze guard as soon as it come out the house. thanks! it will probably freeze in that drain line outside. it does at my house. the freeze guard allows it to bypass when the pipe freezes
Very good update. For your end of your piping right now as well as once you trench, i would recommend adding a end cap that has small holes in it to allow water to flow but prevent critters from crawling into the piping
Hey Case, thank for the update. Every time I do a job, it's a new experience. 9 times out of 10, I forgot what I learned the first time. I think that's the real gem in doing RUclips project videos. 😂😂 At least there's a record for future use.
Sure glad I saw the follow up. Love the added clean out line. Not sure I would worry about the lining o/s the bucket. That could clog also. I think I MIGHT add some filter stuff on the inside of what ever I do. I can pull that out if needed and replace it. On pump research I see there are pumps that can handle the clogs of mud. Was up at 3am researching this stuff as it poured down. This am= no water! one of our test holes did have a bit of mud but none above surface area. I do not know if I should use about 10 feet of drain and run it in or just put holes in bottom and be done with it. I have to give my plan to someone to do it as I am just too old. Loved the video and it HAS helped me in my planning.thanks🦇
Thank you 🙏 Appreciate the kind words! Most pumps that can handle mud and small stones are advertised as trash pumps. Most sump pumps are designed for clean water only, but will handle some occasional sediment type material. The fabric around the pit becomes more important when your pit is surrounded by sand like mine. I think a pit surrounded by stone would fare better without fabric than mine did. I may add surface drains in the future, but for now my pit with about one 1/2”-5/8” hole per gallon of water the pump is rated for per minute is working well. Good luck 👍
█ In regard to the interior of my home... I've encountered a sump-pump problem just this weekend (it wouldn't shut off on its own) and, consequently, I'll be needing to do a replacement very soon. █ In regard to the exterior of my home... the sump-pump outlet piping is NOT extended far from the home; consequently, I decided to build a trench that, as I recall, runs out to about 40 feet, exiting near, but not into, the nearby storm drain. In one or more conversations that I had with one of my neighbors, I learned that he had dealt with a flooded basement and found out that the sump-pump outlet piping in his backyard had become clogged. As a result, he had contracted to have piping installed that was buried about 6 feet down and was connected to a drain (which required permitting, as would have been necessary in my case as well if I had chosen to have it flow into the storm drain). He cautioned me about having the end of the outlet pipe buried (something that I don't recall my having planned on doing), saying something about vegetation (such as trees) being drawn to a water source (such as water coming from a sump-pump outlet pipe) that could lead to the piping becoming clogged, which, again, is what happened to him, resulting in at least one instance of a flooded basement (I think he mentioned that it happened more than once). My trench is only about 3-4 inches deep. I have not installed any piping and may not in the future; if I did do so, however, for the sake of servicing (as in the case of your "Y" connection), I would have the piping remain near the surface (i.e., laid within the existing trench if possible) rather than placing it deeper so as to avoid a potential problem with cold-weather cracking occurring. █ In regard to the matter of regrets...everything in life involves "a learning curve" and, even then, a person eventually may not be very content with "the finished product" if he, or she, is exposed to some subsequent, "better-way-to-do-it" information and/or a better product that could have been used "if he, or she, had only known". What to do? A person should spend about three months doing research BEFORE beginning any DIY project...and...AFTER...the car's oil is changed, air filter is changed, tires are rotated, smoke-alarm batteries are replaced, etc. Oh, and one more thing to add to the to-do list (as per the This Old House guide for 2024 best sump pumps): ▌Does my sump pump require regular maintenance? To ensure that your sump pump functions properly, we recommend cleaning its components at least every three months by following these steps: Disconnect the pump from the wall outlet or battery. Disconnect the pump’s discharge pipe. Bring the pump to your yard. Scrape off the grime with a sponge or cloth. If there’s too much grime to remove by hand, use a standard garden hose to blast it off. Disinfect the pump and its basin by wiping them with bleach, vinegar, or another disinfectant. Use a shop vac to clean the remaining debris and water from the basin. Reconnect the pump. ≡≡≡≡≡≡≡≡≡≡≡≡≡≡≡≡≡≡≡≡≡≡≡≡≡≡ P.S.: Everyone should make sure to get a minimum of two hours of sleep every night. 😉
▌GOOD NEWS: I thank God that I am able to cycle the existing pump on and off while I "do my online research". ▌BAD NEWS: ♦Interesting that I should have mentioned that two-hour sleep minimum: I've come to the conclusion that I can go safely for about two hours without the water rising to a level that would cause an overflow issue. (I did not sleep well last night but utilized my "wake-up during the night" time to do what I needed to do AND to manually cycle the pump on during at least most of those times as well.) ♦Rain is coming...beginning around midnight Tuesday. ♦Woodpecker pecking on the side of my house now. Have to buy me...a cap gun...one day...AFTER...I have the oil changed, air filter changed, tires rotated, smoke-alarm batteries changed.... ▌GOOD NEWS: ♦By the way...my neighbor spent $6,000 to rectify his flooded-basement-due-to-clogged-sump-pump-piping problem. I spent...well, if I paid myself a reasonable $15/hour, maybe $60 for my trench-digging work as well as subsequent "maintenance" (i.e., smoothing out the trench; removing debris and growing "vegetation"). ♦Lesson learned: Don't spend $2,500 (which I did not do) on an electric drain auger to clear out a clogged sewer line. Instead, spend less than $25 on a Husky medium-size drain bladder (or larger, depending on pipe OD), adding a long water hose if one does not already own one; it solved my plumbing problem...AFTER...my having spent time, and energy, trying to repeatedly perform snaking, which, I presume, accomplished virtually nothing at all. (What is worse than having a flooded basement? A poopy, flooded, basement. Thankfully, in my case, the issue was isolated to just the laundry room.) ▌Have to go scare off a woodpecker now....
For a second pump, use a 12v boat bilge pump with a float just above your normal pump off a deep cycle battery with a maintainer. That way if the power goes out you can still get pumped out. And look up "sump pump ice guard" for the pipe outside.
There would be a vertical pipe off the 90 that goes down into the trench and then another 90 that connects to the drain line. The pipes there now outside aren’t glued. They’re just temporary
If you want to see the original installation video…please click here ruclips.net/video/XERNfsaByyM/видео.htmlsi=h4_iVU1ZUakHx2M0
Tyvm for this… shared with my four children, some of whom will install a sump in my vt basement… used my submersible pump yesterday evening to clear five inches out of my basement… no furnishings down there!
@@louisegogel7973 I’m glad it was helpful 👍
add a freeze guard as soon as it come out the house. thanks! it will probably freeze in that drain line outside. it does at my house. the freeze guard allows it to bypass when the pipe freezes
@@caseykittel Great idea! Thanks 🙏
Very good update. For your end of your piping right now as well as once you trench, i would recommend adding a end cap that has small holes in it to allow water to flow but prevent critters from crawling into the piping
Great idea 👍
Hey Case, thank for the update. Every time I do a job, it's a new experience. 9 times out of 10, I forgot what I learned the first time. I think that's the real gem in doing RUclips project videos. 😂😂
At least there's a record for future use.
Very true. Great point 😄👍
Your assistant is very good. We have had a lot of rain this winter, I can't remember when it was last this wet. Great information, thanks
Thank you sir 🙏 He is a fast learner 😁
Sure glad I saw the follow up. Love the added clean out line. Not sure I would worry about the lining o/s the bucket. That could clog also. I think I MIGHT add some filter stuff on the inside of what ever I do. I can pull that out if needed and replace it. On pump research I see there are pumps that can handle the clogs of mud. Was up at 3am researching this stuff as it poured down. This am= no water! one of our test holes did have a bit of mud but none above surface area. I do not know if I should use about 10 feet of drain and run it in or just put holes in bottom and be done with it. I have to give my plan to someone to do it as I am just too old. Loved the video and it HAS helped me in my planning.thanks🦇
Thank you 🙏 Appreciate the kind words! Most pumps that can handle mud and small stones are advertised as trash pumps. Most sump pumps are designed for clean water only, but will handle some occasional sediment type material. The fabric around the pit becomes more important when your pit is surrounded by sand like mine. I think a pit surrounded by stone would fare better without fabric than mine did. I may add surface drains in the future, but for now my pit with about one 1/2”-5/8” hole per gallon of water the pump is rated for per minute is working well. Good luck 👍
█ In regard to the interior of my home...
I've encountered a sump-pump problem just this weekend (it wouldn't shut off on its own) and, consequently, I'll be needing to do a replacement very soon.
█ In regard to the exterior of my home...
the sump-pump outlet piping is NOT extended far from the home; consequently, I decided to build a trench that, as I recall, runs out to about 40 feet, exiting near, but not into, the nearby storm drain.
In one or more conversations that I had with one of my neighbors, I learned that he had dealt with a flooded basement and found out that the sump-pump outlet piping in his backyard had become clogged. As a result, he had contracted to have piping installed that was buried about 6 feet down and was connected to a drain (which required permitting, as would have been necessary in my case as well if I had chosen to have it flow into the storm drain). He cautioned me about having the end of the outlet pipe buried (something that I don't recall my having planned on doing), saying something about vegetation (such as trees) being drawn to a water source (such as water coming from a sump-pump outlet pipe) that could lead to the piping becoming clogged, which, again, is what happened to him, resulting in at least one instance of a flooded basement (I think he mentioned that it happened more than once).
My trench is only about 3-4 inches deep. I have not installed any piping and may not in the future; if I did do so, however, for the sake of servicing (as in the case of your "Y" connection), I would have the piping remain near the surface (i.e., laid within the existing trench if possible) rather than placing it deeper so as to avoid a potential problem with cold-weather cracking occurring.
█ In regard to the matter of regrets...everything in life involves "a learning curve" and, even then, a person eventually may not be very content with "the finished product" if he, or she, is exposed to some subsequent, "better-way-to-do-it" information and/or a better product that could have been used "if he, or she, had only known". What to do? A person should spend about three months doing research BEFORE beginning any DIY project...and...AFTER...the car's oil is changed, air filter is changed, tires are rotated, smoke-alarm batteries are replaced, etc.
Oh, and one more thing to add to the to-do list (as per the This Old House guide for 2024 best sump pumps):
▌Does my sump pump require regular maintenance?
To ensure that your sump pump functions properly, we recommend cleaning its components at least every three months by following these steps:
Disconnect the pump from the wall outlet or battery.
Disconnect the pump’s discharge pipe.
Bring the pump to your yard.
Scrape off the grime with a sponge or cloth.
If there’s too much grime to remove by hand, use a standard garden hose to blast it off.
Disinfect the pump and its basin by wiping them with bleach, vinegar, or another disinfectant.
Use a shop vac to clean the remaining debris and water from the basin.
Reconnect the pump.
≡≡≡≡≡≡≡≡≡≡≡≡≡≡≡≡≡≡≡≡≡≡≡≡≡≡
P.S.: Everyone should make sure to get a minimum of two hours of sleep every night. 😉
▌GOOD NEWS: I thank God that I am able to cycle the existing pump on and off while I "do my online research".
▌BAD NEWS:
♦Interesting that I should have mentioned that two-hour sleep minimum: I've come to the conclusion that I can go safely for about two hours without the water rising to a level that would cause an overflow issue. (I did not sleep well last night but utilized my "wake-up during the night" time to do what I needed to do AND to manually cycle the pump on during at least most of those times as well.)
♦Rain is coming...beginning around midnight Tuesday.
♦Woodpecker pecking on the side of my house now. Have to buy me...a cap gun...one day...AFTER...I have the oil changed, air filter changed, tires rotated, smoke-alarm batteries changed....
▌GOOD NEWS:
♦By the way...my neighbor spent $6,000 to rectify his flooded-basement-due-to-clogged-sump-pump-piping problem. I spent...well, if I paid myself a reasonable $15/hour, maybe $60 for my trench-digging work as well as subsequent "maintenance" (i.e., smoothing out the trench; removing debris and growing "vegetation").
♦Lesson learned: Don't spend $2,500 (which I did not do) on an electric drain auger to clear out a clogged sewer line. Instead, spend less than $25 on a Husky medium-size drain bladder (or larger, depending on pipe OD), adding a long water hose if one does not already own one; it solved my plumbing problem...AFTER...my having spent time, and energy, trying to repeatedly perform snaking, which, I presume, accomplished virtually nothing at all. (What is worse than having a flooded basement? A poopy, flooded, basement. Thankfully, in my case, the issue was isolated to just the laundry room.)
▌Have to go scare off a woodpecker now....
Hi Case! Those are some good things to think about. Hope you all are doing well. Take care.
Thank you sir 🙏
For a second pump, use a 12v boat bilge pump with a float just above your normal pump off a deep cycle battery with a maintainer. That way if the power goes out you can still get pumped out. And look up "sump pump ice guard" for the pipe outside.
Great info, thank you 🙏
Great job.
🙏
So now that you added landscape fabric will you need to go in every year to pull it out and clear any accumulated sediment?
I sure hope not. Lol
Also how will you bury that outside section into a trench, since it starts like 18" above grade?
There would be a vertical pipe off the 90 that goes down into the trench and then another 90 that connects to the drain line. The pipes there now outside aren’t glued. They’re just temporary
Nice!
Great job
Thank you 🙏
Good stuff thx!
You’re welcome 👍
If you put your check valve at the bottom of the pit, instead of all the way at the top, it saves the life of the sump pump
for the love of god... change the battery on the smoke detector. thanks for the vid tho!!
I'll add it to the list 👍
I kept thinking it was mine! Hahaha
Im cheating off this video to do mine. I’m also in Mass. wish me luck.
@@joadvich Good luck 👍
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