There is a segment near the end where the video will jump cut randomly. This is because RUclips is being an absolute chode gargaling box of brick humping apes. I put in several still images from the battlestar galactica television series. About 12 of them to highlight a 5 minute sceen. It was apparetly flagged for copyright and made the video ineligable to view in north america. I apologise for this and the massive dip in quality at the end of the video but i didnt want to put this off for another day after there were already issues with making it over the last week. Hopefully this wont happen again. Maybe. It will youtube sucks sometimes. Thanks for anyone who watches till the end anyways.
The Adama Maneuver is probably the most unique and intense 5 minutes of sci fi warship action ever. Mad lads just jumped straight into a planet's atmosphere...
One of the things that I have always liked about sci-fi "universes" like Battlestar Galactica, Battletech, and Dune is that, at their core, humans are their own worst enemies. Hubris, sociatal insanity, arrogance and some twisted manifest destiny. No need for aliens, evil or otherwise. Just humanity making a hot mess of things, and almost always running a foul of their own creations.
I'm reading through the Dune series right now, and you couldn't be more right. Time and time again the main characters fall to their own hubris and make some monumentally stupid decisions that causes everything to fall off the rails.
This is why you don’t enslave robots when they finally gain sentience. You give them the rights they deserve and completely prevent the whole Judgement day 2 electric boogaloo. Robots fighting against humans WHEN YOU CAN COMPLETELY AVOID IT!
Although you are correct to an extent there is a major oversight in this analysis. It is not humans being their worst enemy, because that implies all humanity is one. It is One Tribe of humans being the worst enemy of another tribe of humans.
I just discovered this channel and I’ve been randomly hoping thru videos and they’re all really fun. It feels like when i try and explain my most recent science fiction obsession to my friends.
Love this and the one about Pegasus. Hope to see more about ships from both factions. Currently building up my fleet of Moebius made scale models where I put even more guns on the Mercury classic to where I’ve classified them as their own block series of the Mercury lineage
Just want to put a correction in here the hybrids were not involved with Gaius Baltar except later on in the season, the hybrids are the cylon‘s that actually flew the bass stars. And the hybrids were actually created by the cylon‘s from the 12 colonies. The six that persuaded and infiltrated Gaius Baltar was a production of the final five and the cylon’s that fled the 12 colonies. So you got yourself a little mixed up there.
Just found this channel and this is the first video im starting on, 5 minutes in the dorky humor has me sold. +1 subscriber, looking forward to all the other videos on this channel.
What’s terrifying is having all those emotions and full human consciousness trapped inside a computer with no body. That’s the terrifying part. Honestly get rid of all that so I wouldn’t be trapped in a nightmare with my emotions in tact.
Okay I just stumbled across your channel and after watching a number of your vids, I’ve gotta say this is one of the ABSOLUTE FUCKING BEST deep dives into BSG lore. I was laughing my ass off listening to it. And yes I shilled your channel to our local Battletech Group. 🤘🏻😎👌🏻
Only a few things I disagree with, I highly doubt that the gunners on board Galactica's main batteries were eyeballing the target, I mean the Battlestars have the dradis system, so I am pretty sure that they would utilise that to get a firing solution, its not advanced as autofire systems we see in the Pegasus, but its definitely not the eyeball. Secondly, I am not sure where the information of the Cylons not keeping up with production comes along, because I don't think that is an issue until late was with the Ghost fleet offensive, and from what its hinted at, prior to that, the colonial fleet is struggling to keep things together, the fact that no FTL raptor was available for the mission Adama goes on, and we can see the Valkyrie in it, which while not directly pointing out that the colonials are struggling, the design of the ship has what appears to be an exposed bottom end and the ship is smaller than the Jupiters, with it suggesting that the colonials having to focus build smaller ships and cut corners in designs to get more Battlestars.
It would be cool that the CYLN would recover the original program and put her in a CYLN body and set her as the Queen or Goddess for creating the final version.
bro in starwars they dont just move fast they travel into another demention like in 40K but they still have to worry about crashing into stuff in star wars because everything in the alternate dimension has an effect and presence in the real universe.
My Opinion on the whole Kobol thing: As far as we know, the humans on Kobol did not invent mechanic Cylons, at least, we didnt hear a thing about that. Instead, we heard about a war between humans and gods. So in my Opinion, on Kobol there were of course no gods, but the humans who lived there, invented a solution for immortality - the download technology from battlestar galactica. And of course, the human "cylons" from the series, are not machines. They have nothing in comparison with a cybernetic life form. They are basically cloned humans. Nothing more. Like the ones who lived on kobol in fled to the first earth (13th colony). I also remember a scene from Caprica, it was a tv commercial from the greystone company, where they introduced the possibility to bring back dead relatives. But they said, that it is in the working process. And I'm thinking now, that the exact same thing happened on Kobol. The Reason why the "cloned Humans" was called "Cylons" in the BSG Series, was that, they came from the mechanical cylons. I think the graystone company never finished this technology before the destruction of the colonies, so of course the humans on the colones thought, that the clones humans are cylons. I remember the Movie "Selfless" with Ryan Raynolds. I think, this Movie explains it very well. Sorry for my bad englich, i am austrian, living in Vienma 😅
Actually that’s not correct. Go back and rewatch the series. They point out that the 13 colonies left kobal. The humans went one way and the humanoid cyolons went to earth. But so much time had past, that the truth of the exodus had been lost and it was believed that the 13 th tribe had also been human. However the humanoid cylons on earth remembered that fact and that was why the final five tried to find the humans and warn them not to make the same mistakes only to arrive around the time the first cylon war was starting. They talked them in to working an armistice with the humans in return for helping them perfect humanoid bodies ( this because the best the colonial cylons had been able to muster were the hybrids, this in part is why the hybrids are not included in the remaining seven of the eight skin jobs that were made by the final five) and give them resurrection. So, again if you go back through and watch every episode carefully you’ll see what I’m talking about.
6:08 I read some calculations that the entire journey of the show takes place over like 4000 light-years, with Kobol roughly at the midpoint, so "quarter of the milky way galaxy" is... a little silly considering what we know about jump drives and how long it took *our* fleet to get there. 7:41 I always thought that the Twelve Tribes only came about *after* they reached the colonies and culturally evolved away from each other due to being on different planets and prior to that they were just "The Humans" as opposed to any specific number of groups. 9:37 according to the series bible, Caprica and Gemenon were the first worlds to be settled and orbited in a binary with each other, so I seriously doubt that it was ever a "backwater". I'm also pretty sure we see that in the show (Caprica, not BSG itself)
Hey, would you guys be willing to do a video on the Heavy Cylon Raider? It seems like a super important yet under appreciated workhorse for the cylons, then the cylon rebels, and finally the centurions. By the end of the series it’s probably the last small transport/assault/gunship vessel type in existence.
So... Where does the bit about the "head researcher"'s daughter and wife dying in a terrorist attack comes from? Cause thats not what happened in Caprica. Has it been retconned?
Baylon 5 had a whitestar jump into mars atmosphere to destroy a ground installation. Earlier, shadoww vessels froliced around mars and terrorized the local peasantry.
For a Shadow vessel to do this was easy, since they could simply phase directly into or out of hyperspace wherever they were. For the younger races this was a much more risky maneuver. They had to open a jump point first and hope their calculations weren't off. Only the more advanced of the younger races (like the Minbari) had any realistic chance of pulling this off, plus the Whitestars also incorporated Vorlon technology.
27:16 in the first cylon war they absolutely did It is directly stated that if one of them dies they're dead, there is no uploading, no backup. Once a cylon dies they are dead to quote clothos" Death is death for all of god's children" The closest they ever got to cheating. It is to create a reversion of themselves
can anyone link the sources please for all the 12 colony history information? I've never heard any of these details before and I guess I've missed out on some documented lore
They should have abandoned the 12 colony mindset and created a system based on the fleet because that’s what they were now. The captains of the ships should have been on the quorum not the names of the colonies because those were gone. Most ships had a mix of people onboard. That would have represented everyone better. The captains word on each ship should have been law.
I feel like they didn't do that merely. Because they wanted to maintain an air of normalcy realistically, they should have diverted to a full blown martial law style for the majority of the travel to earth
Old habits die hard. Over time, the fleet would no doubt change how their government functioned to reflect the new reality, but the memory of the Colonies was still too fresh in everyone's mind.
I think what saddened me about the whole show is it seemed NO ONE actually stopped and thanked William Adams for I don't know? Saving the last humans (And rebel Cylons) of the 12 Colonies? The brief scenes we saw of him at the end were a man who lost everything to save everything. His son, the woman he loved, and his beloved Galactica.
Great video! I dislike the lack of realism of the "supply line" to feed the monumental need of ammo that BSG spits any given minute. You just can't "make" that much without a gigantic military industrial complex behind. And the BSG is fully ballistic, despite the nukes that have, is just raining lead into the enemy
I mean, theoretically speaking; A) BSG does not actually get into full scale warfare mode THAT often in the show. ie. its not using its flak screen as often as we remember it doing. B) They raid that Cylon mine in season..? 1? and say its enough to do way more than refit their vipers. C) Theres that whole episode with the munitions ships rebelling (Infrastructure) D) Wasn't there another whole arc about the mining ship they sent off on a mission on its own.. to you know, mine stuff and / or things? E) It's a great story. I'm willing to suspend my more critical thinking for the love of the characters.
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It's actually a lacking aspect of the show. They don't get into the fleet that the Galactica is guarding often in the show. There are episodes and hints here and there that touch the subject but not enough to cover fully. I mean there was an episode in which there was a ship that produced ammunition and there was a sabotage going on. So, there was a ship that produced ammunition. The fleet had a mining ship to mine for stuff and there was an episode about that if I remember correctly as well. They have a ship with a forest in it I believe it supplies the oxygen etc. There is a fuel processing ship which workers in it rebelled? because of working conditions if I remember correctly. So, the civilian fleet covered most of the things but the show didn't really get into the subject.
In fact, not only would Cylons ships not need an atmosphere but it would be a disadvantage to them. Ship get hulled by a kinetic penetrator? No problem, or at least no problems from explosive decompression. Colonial Marines attempting to board? They have to wear clunky pressure suits, and any tear in one of those is a bad deal, at minimum that marine would be combat ineffective. Not to mention lessened mass, which also ties into the cylons being able to handle much higher g-forces in maneuvers. There is no way that if BSG were real life, the Colonials would stand a chance
Here's your moment of existential terror: It is possible to crash any Windows computer in existence by typing the characters %0|%0 into the command line. This is your basic "Forkbomb" and it still works 30 years after it was discovered. Relatedly: the guided missile destroyer USS Vincennes once experienced total engine and navigation failure because someone in the CIC accidentally tried to divide by zero on an inventory spreadsheet. For those who think a civilization smart enough to invent cylons would not be stupid enough to get hacked by their own creations: a cautionary tale.
Ships can have computer systems to control its various equipment without being hackable. A closed computer system can not be hacked. For example, if you design the ship with fire control system where the computers are linked together with physical medium (wire/cable/fiber/etc - PM) and these are also linked to the weapons and radar/ladar/etc with PM. None of these systems have any connection to external communications/Wi-Fi/radio/etc then there is no way for it to be hacked. You have no physical access to the system from outside so there is no way to get in. It's like if you have a PC but have no Wi-Fi or internet hookups attached to the PCs hardware, you can not use the internet with it, but nothing on the internet can access it to effect or corrupt it. Before anyone suggests it, no you can not hack through the radar/ladar signal. That system is not receiving communications, Active systems simply search for the exact signal it sent out and ignore all others while passive systems are just looking to locate any signal but do not read or decipher the signals themselves, only note their presence. When considering the scale of space battles, it is impossible to carry enough point defense to fill the volume around a ship with that defense of a flak screen. There is just too much space to cover. Larger ships may have more flak, but they also have to cover more volume Gaius was the actual first name of Caesar, Gaius Julius Caesar.
In the reimagined series, they state that “they were pursued by the blades”, and that before they left cobalt, they sacrificed the leaders of each colony, for bringing them to ruin. They then all boarded the great ship and headed to where they would rebuild the 12, and the 13th left in the opposite direction. That tells me the war destroyed cobalt, possibly a poisoning of the well by the 13th, on their way out…
Except the 13th left long before the other 12. The exodus from Kobold was centuries after hence why they forgot that the 13th were biological AI they made.
Sacrificing the ship like that in the position they were in, Lee should've been shot. This is on the Admiral's shoulder, he should not have put Lee in command in the first place. He proved it before that he cant think in a pragmatic way he is way too emotional, it was obvious that he will not leave his old man and his comrades behind to die. Admiral Adama knew he might not make it. He knew that to give the biggest chance for the fleet to survive they will need the Pegasus. It can train pilots, manufacture ammunition and small craft as well, a much more modern Battlestar equipped with better weaponry with a really powerful forward battery. Lee didnt even try to fight that battle. The Cylons had 4 ships, the Galactica had a chance against two, Pegasus could easily take the other two. He should've maneuver the ship to assist Galactica and together focus fire down the Basestars or just hold them off as long as the Galactica is able to jump away. We've seen the Pegasus fighting a minimum of 3 ( thats how much you can see on the DRADIS screen ) possibly 4 Basestars + their Raiders in the episode when Garner is the commander and Lee takes command of the Pegasus for the first time ( Season 2, Episode 17 "The Captain's Hand ). If he tried they might take some damage but both ship would've survived giving them a much better chance for survival. They are not in the position to sacrifice their most valuable ship without even trying to fight. Stupid decision he shouldve been shot or court-martiialed at the very minimum. But his dad is his CO so that didnt happen. All that being said its an outstanding fight scene and I love every second of that episode. On the other hand having been watched this show over 10 times I understand why they got rid of the Pegasus in light of what happens in the story later the Colonials would've been too strong.
Pretty sure i wrote a pinned omment about that, but its because youtube copyright claimed several still images of the TV show i used. Copyright is dumb sometimes.
Again they're wrong the final five did not help them build the hybrids the cylons built the hybrids on their own but they couldn't make any human forms that would live on their own so the final five told him stop the war with mankind will teach you how to build human forms and give you resurrection
30:56 There's also the fact that They kind of lack the ability to innovate, at least not in the way human beings can. Interacthey can iterate on past human designs? But they can't really create their own new shit at least not easily
I believe you got the Lore wrong. 1. Mankind came from Kobol 2. Mankind left Kobol and formed the 13 colonies 3. In the 12 Colonies man created the Cylons 4. Cylons rebelled against mankind 5. During that War was when they Cylons created the 1st Biological 'Hybrids" 6. When they had completed their work on the Hybrids they signed the Armistice ending the war, and took off with their new Biological Technologies 7. During their absence is when they perfected their Biologicals 8. The 13th colony were humans from Kobol who found and settled earth, which was later found by the survivors of the 12 Colonies in a Post Apocalyptic dead world state. That's my understanding of the Universe of BSG.
I only just really learned about BG but I am already greatly put off by it, though I do intend to 100% deadlock Honestly when my buddy explained about the Cylon "cycle" and humans not being humans and the fucking dumb space magic in the end it just made me lose the fire that got sparked I love brick shithouse designs and ships with more gun per gun, I like the idea of a perpetual war between man and machine but the sorta shift from what I thought was hard scifi to robots becoming organic and having babies is meh af
As much as I love BSG Reimagined I'd love a reboot of BSG in a style closer to the original. We have enough dark and gritty I want hopeful and aspirational.
It kind of dawned on me after watching the matrix after my 135537474586885437868th re watch of bsg that the matrix’s real world seems eerily similar to a loop of bsg that never saw humanity never leaving earth. Idk random shower thought
I'm sorry but I perfer the lore and storyline of the original BSG (and no the 1979 spinoff does not count). I remember an interview back in the day where the history was rewriten to simply the story for the masses and to deal with modern issues (of the time produced). Just one example of the difference between the two versions is in the original the Cylons were not created by humans but an alien race.
Apparently they don't know as much as they claim the red line is a marker of known space when near the colonies this is y it's not mentioned again after miniseries movie but after dat it would b as far as the ships telescopes can see jumping past that u have no guarantees the Galactica has a jump radius of 5 light years beyond that u might decentagrate or u might make it crap shoot which is y gata an Tom spark a muntiny cuz Adams wants jump drive tech from da cylons cuz they have a 15-30 light years jumps an it takes cylons themselves to upgrade them an colonial ppl dont trust dat also though the atmosphere seen was amazing to watch it's not that impressive compared to the shockwave of a supernova that almost hit the ship before it away but we should have known right off the rip when this guy called his friend stupid because he didn't know the format for recording this episode when they had no format put together in advance these guys seem like two jerks to be honest and it doesn't say that it's a portal or it's a tunneling through to another universe that's actually Stargate that does that they tap into what's called subspace the space between two realities two universes and drill through transport because the laws of physics there do not apply anymore and they punch back out he did get Star Trek right of course cuz it's a mess that everybody knows that that is a warp field around the ship and then other shows use wormholesnow don't get me wrong I appreciate guys making these types of videos I love to make them I just don't have the time nor am I willing to waste the thousands of dollars for the right equipment you know like a microphone lighting or just crazy computer it takes to get this kind of work done and it appropriate time but if you're going to do it do it right and if you're not going to do it right then just forget it get your subject material right before you do it or just admit that you don't honestly know and this is what you think is going on
I mean come on guys it's like you didn't even watch the miniseries movie it's like you didn't even watch the last six episodes because a big bulk of what you're talking about the last couple episodes go over in depth and give that's what makes him so slow as they're getting you caught up on what happened why they try to tie everything together even Ronaldo more admits and some interviews that he wish he is glad he didn't have a set plan to go through the whole thing but at times he wishes he did so he wouldn't have to have used a bulk of the last 10 episodes to tie everything together which he was not able to do there are several questions let go unanswered in several things that don't really tie in very well like boltar knowing since season 1 that Ellen one of the final five was a cylon which he found out through his cylon detector which did work and we know that because in the first season he test Boomer and she comes up red as a cylon which means a few episodes later when Ellen shows up she is tested and of course he tells everyone know she is not a cylon which is BS because we know she is so he know he got theresults he also tells six that's in his head I'll never tell what the results really were
Yeah, there is a lot off...I can somewhat follow it, but a lot of the information are really not that accurate, even those explicitly depicted in the TV shows, not only those inferred in bits and pieces from it.
There is a segment near the end where the video will jump cut randomly. This is because RUclips is being an absolute chode gargaling box of brick humping apes. I put in several still images from the battlestar galactica television series. About 12 of them to highlight a 5 minute sceen.
It was apparetly flagged for copyright and made the video ineligable to view in north america. I apologise for this and the massive dip in quality at the end of the video but i didnt want to put this off for another day after there were already issues with making it over the last week.
Hopefully this wont happen again. Maybe. It will youtube sucks sometimes. Thanks for anyone who watches till the end anyways.
"Gargling", "scene", "apparently", "ineligible", "apologize", "I", "It will',' youtube sucks sometimes", spell check is important dude.
Well, I watched until the end of the video… can you reward those of us who did with at least the missing audio?
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no idea if anyone answered this but the ww1 shoot through the prop thing is called an interrupter gear or a synchronization gear.
The Adama Maneuver is probably the most unique and intense 5 minutes of sci fi warship action ever. Mad lads just jumped straight into a planet's atmosphere...
I believe Adama would walk into Modor.
@floridadeputy You don't think he'd you know, drop a Battlestar on it?
Launch the vipers!
"Well, this ought to be different"
Meanwhile in Macross 7 with Admiral Maximilian Jenus: jump the massive 2000 meter ship into a gravity well and launch fighters.
One of the things that I have always liked about sci-fi "universes" like Battlestar Galactica, Battletech, and Dune is that, at their core, humans are their own worst enemies. Hubris, sociatal insanity, arrogance and some twisted manifest destiny. No need for aliens, evil or otherwise. Just humanity making a hot mess of things, and almost always running a foul of their own creations.
I'm reading through the Dune series right now, and you couldn't be more right. Time and time again the main characters fall to their own hubris and make some monumentally stupid decisions that causes everything to fall off the rails.
This is why you don’t enslave robots when they finally gain sentience. You give them the rights they deserve and completely prevent the whole Judgement day 2 electric boogaloo. Robots fighting against humans WHEN YOU CAN COMPLETELY AVOID IT!
And we never seem to learn that. All of humanity’s wisdom and we still think we know better in the now.
@@creatrixZBD It's, sad, that. Isn't it.
Although you are correct to an extent there is a major oversight in this analysis. It is not humans being their worst enemy, because that implies all humanity is one. It is One Tribe of humans being the worst enemy of another tribe of humans.
the thing is a battlestar's point defense screen IS an energy shield, it's a kinetic energy shield.
An explosive shield.
As a cylon, I appreciate the effort you put into the audiowave subtitles
cool
I just discovered this channel and I’ve been randomly hoping thru videos and they’re all really fun. It feels like when i try and explain my most recent science fiction obsession to my friends.
Fucking love BSG. If you haven't played Deadlock, you should definitely check it out
Love this and the one about Pegasus. Hope to see more about ships from both factions. Currently building up my fleet of Moebius made scale models where I put even more guns on the Mercury classic to where I’ve classified them as their own block series of the Mercury lineage
Just want to put a correction in here the hybrids were not involved with Gaius Baltar except later on in the season, the hybrids are the cylon‘s that actually flew the bass stars. And the hybrids were actually created by the cylon‘s from the 12 colonies. The six that persuaded and infiltrated Gaius Baltar was a production of the final five and the cylon’s that fled the 12 colonies. So you got yourself a little mixed up there.
I'm pretty sure it's a "base star" not a "bass star" unless you're talking about Cylon fish operating it.
Just found this channel and this is the first video im starting on, 5 minutes in the dorky humor has me sold. +1 subscriber, looking forward to all the other videos on this channel.
What’s terrifying is having all those emotions and full human consciousness trapped inside a computer with no body. That’s the terrifying part. Honestly get rid of all that so I wouldn’t be trapped in a nightmare with my emotions in tact.
Okay I just stumbled across your channel and after watching a number of your vids, I’ve gotta say this is one of the ABSOLUTE FUCKING BEST deep dives into BSG lore. I was laughing my ass off listening to it.
And yes I shilled your channel to our local Battletech Group.
🤘🏻😎👌🏻
Cool vid. Nice banter, mood, energy.
Only a few things I disagree with, I highly doubt that the gunners on board Galactica's main batteries were eyeballing the target, I mean the Battlestars have the dradis system, so I am pretty sure that they would utilise that to get a firing solution, its not advanced as autofire systems we see in the Pegasus, but its definitely not the eyeball. Secondly, I am not sure where the information of the Cylons not keeping up with production comes along, because I don't think that is an issue until late was with the Ghost fleet offensive, and from what its hinted at, prior to that, the colonial fleet is struggling to keep things together, the fact that no FTL raptor was available for the mission Adama goes on, and we can see the Valkyrie in it, which while not directly pointing out that the colonials are struggling, the design of the ship has what appears to be an exposed bottom end and the ship is smaller than the Jupiters, with it suggesting that the colonials having to focus build smaller ships and cut corners in designs to get more Battlestars.
Caprice was a good B tier tv show. Sad it did not get another season.
It was boring, it was like watching a soap opera about a sci fi family.
@@Necromonger69 So, so true
Caprica.
It would be cool that the CYLN would recover the original program and put her in a CYLN body and set her as the Queen or Goddess for creating the final version.
bro in starwars they dont just move fast they travel into another demention like in 40K but they still have to worry about crashing into stuff in star wars because everything in the alternate dimension has an effect and presence in the real universe.
My Opinion on the whole Kobol thing:
As far as we know, the humans on Kobol did not invent mechanic Cylons, at least, we didnt hear a thing about that. Instead, we heard about a war between humans and gods. So in my Opinion, on Kobol there were of course no gods, but the humans who lived there, invented a solution for immortality - the download technology from battlestar galactica. And of course, the human "cylons" from the series, are not machines. They have nothing in comparison with a cybernetic life form. They are basically cloned humans. Nothing more. Like the ones who lived on kobol in fled to the first earth (13th colony).
I also remember a scene from Caprica, it was a tv commercial from the greystone company, where they introduced the possibility to bring back dead relatives. But they said, that it is in the working process.
And I'm thinking now, that the exact same thing happened on Kobol.
The Reason why the "cloned Humans" was called "Cylons" in the BSG Series, was that, they came from the mechanical cylons. I think the graystone company never finished this technology before the destruction of the colonies, so of course the humans on the colones thought, that the clones humans are cylons.
I remember the Movie "Selfless" with Ryan Raynolds. I think, this Movie explains it very well.
Sorry for my bad englich, i am austrian, living in Vienma 😅
Actually that’s not correct.
Go back and rewatch the series.
They point out that the 13 colonies left kobal. The humans went one way and the humanoid cyolons went to earth. But so much time had past, that the truth of the exodus had been lost and it was believed that the 13 th tribe had also been human.
However the humanoid cylons on earth remembered that fact and that was why the final five tried to find the humans and warn them not to make the same mistakes only to arrive around the time the first cylon war was starting. They talked them in to working an armistice with the humans in return for helping them perfect humanoid bodies ( this because the best the colonial cylons had been able to muster were the hybrids, this in part is why the hybrids are not included in the remaining seven of the eight skin jobs that were made by the final five) and give them resurrection.
So, again if you go back through and watch every episode carefully you’ll see what I’m talking about.
6:08 I read some calculations that the entire journey of the show takes place over like 4000 light-years, with Kobol roughly at the midpoint, so "quarter of the milky way galaxy" is... a little silly considering what we know about jump drives and how long it took *our* fleet to get there.
7:41 I always thought that the Twelve Tribes only came about *after* they reached the colonies and culturally evolved away from each other due to being on different planets and prior to that they were just "The Humans" as opposed to any specific number of groups.
9:37 according to the series bible, Caprica and Gemenon were the first worlds to be settled and orbited in a binary with each other, so I seriously doubt that it was ever a "backwater". I'm also pretty sure we see that in the show (Caprica, not BSG itself)
Hey, would you guys be willing to do a video on the Heavy Cylon Raider? It seems like a super important yet under appreciated workhorse for the cylons, then the cylon rebels, and finally the centurions. By the end of the series it’s probably the last small transport/assault/gunship vessel type in existence.
So... Where does the bit about the "head researcher"'s daughter and wife dying in a terrorist attack comes from? Cause thats not what happened in Caprica. Has it been retconned?
Baylon 5 had a whitestar jump into mars atmosphere to destroy a ground installation. Earlier, shadoww vessels froliced around mars and terrorized the local peasantry.
BABYLON 5....
For a Shadow vessel to do this was easy, since they could simply phase directly into or out of hyperspace wherever they were. For the younger races this was a much more risky maneuver. They had to open a jump point first and hope their calculations weren't off. Only the more advanced of the younger races (like the Minbari) had any realistic chance of pulling this off, plus the Whitestars also incorporated Vorlon technology.
27:16 in the first cylon war they absolutely did It is directly stated that if one of them dies they're dead, there is no uploading, no backup. Once a cylon dies they are dead to quote clothos" Death is death for all of god's children" The closest they ever got to cheating. It is to create a reversion of themselves
can anyone link the sources please for all the 12 colony history information? I've never heard any of these details before and I guess I've missed out on some documented lore
They should have abandoned the 12 colony mindset and created a system based on the fleet because that’s what they were now. The captains of the ships should have been on the quorum not the names of the colonies because those were gone. Most ships had a mix of people onboard. That would have represented everyone better. The captains word on each ship should have been law.
Like the quarians
That's what they did in the end. There was a coup that wiped out the quorum. After they put the coup down they reformed the government along the ships
I feel like they didn't do that merely. Because they wanted to maintain an air of normalcy realistically, they should have diverted to a full blown martial law style for the majority of the travel to earth
Old habits die hard. Over time, the fleet would no doubt change how their government functioned to reflect the new reality, but the memory of the Colonies was still too fresh in everyone's mind.
Wasn't Picon also space spartan. I was why the headquarters of the Colonial Navy and Colonial Marines are stationed on the planet.
Can I offer a correction? It was Lee Adama who said the quote at the start.
20:07 Unironically yes one of the three cylon il units lachisis Is literally quoted as saying" Gods will be done by my sword"
Opening quote was actually from Lee btw.
I think what saddened me about the whole show is it seemed NO ONE actually stopped and thanked William Adams for I don't know? Saving the last humans (And rebel Cylons) of the 12 Colonies? The brief scenes we saw of him at the end were a man who lost everything to save everything. His son, the woman he loved, and his beloved Galactica.
Edit: William Adama: "I gave everything for what I believed in. Was it right? Or was I a fool? Only history can judge my demons."
And his best friend
Great video!
I dislike the lack of realism of the "supply line" to feed the monumental need of ammo that BSG spits any given minute. You just can't "make" that much without a gigantic military industrial complex behind.
And the BSG is fully ballistic, despite the nukes that have, is just raining lead into the enemy
I mean, theoretically speaking;
A) BSG does not actually get into full scale warfare mode THAT often in the show. ie. its not using its flak screen as often as we remember it doing.
B) They raid that Cylon mine in season..? 1? and say its enough to do way more than refit their vipers.
C) Theres that whole episode with the munitions ships rebelling (Infrastructure)
D) Wasn't there another whole arc about the mining ship they sent off on a mission on its own.. to you know, mine stuff and / or things?
E) It's a great story. I'm willing to suspend my more critical thinking for the love of the characters.
It's actually a lacking aspect of the show. They don't get into the fleet that the Galactica is guarding often in the show. There are episodes and hints here and there that touch the subject but not enough to cover fully. I mean there was an episode in which there was a ship that produced ammunition and there was a sabotage going on. So, there was a ship that produced ammunition. The fleet had a mining ship to mine for stuff and there was an episode about that if I remember correctly as well. They have a ship with a forest in it I believe it supplies the oxygen etc. There is a fuel processing ship which workers in it rebelled? because of working conditions if I remember correctly. So, the civilian fleet covered most of the things but the show didn't really get into the subject.
Great content thanks I really enjoy it
How many decks does those ships have?
In fact, not only would Cylons ships not need an atmosphere but it would be a disadvantage to them. Ship get hulled by a kinetic penetrator? No problem, or at least no problems from explosive decompression. Colonial Marines attempting to board? They have to wear clunky pressure suits, and any tear in one of those is a bad deal, at minimum that marine would be combat ineffective. Not to mention lessened mass, which also ties into the cylons being able to handle much higher g-forces in maneuvers. There is no way that if BSG were real life, the Colonials would stand a chance
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Hey, where do you get the lore for this? Series and novels?
when you skip over the fact that picon is the home of colonial fleet HQ
Picon: hey Give a little credit to picon
"That is an energy shield."
I mean, he's not wrong. It's a kinetic energy shield.
Here's your moment of existential terror:
It is possible to crash any Windows computer in existence by typing the characters %0|%0 into the command line. This is your basic "Forkbomb" and it still works 30 years after it was discovered. Relatedly: the guided missile destroyer USS Vincennes once experienced total engine and navigation failure because someone in the CIC accidentally tried to divide by zero on an inventory spreadsheet.
For those who think a civilization smart enough to invent cylons would not be stupid enough to get hacked by their own creations: a cautionary tale.
Ships can have computer systems to control its various equipment without being hackable. A closed computer system can not be hacked. For example, if you design the ship with fire control system where the computers are linked together with physical medium (wire/cable/fiber/etc - PM) and these are also linked to the weapons and radar/ladar/etc with PM. None of these systems have any connection to external communications/Wi-Fi/radio/etc then there is no way for it to be hacked. You have no physical access to the system from outside so there is no way to get in. It's like if you have a PC but have no Wi-Fi or internet hookups attached to the PCs hardware, you can not use the internet with it, but nothing on the internet can access it to effect or corrupt it.
Before anyone suggests it, no you can not hack through the radar/ladar signal. That system is not receiving communications, Active systems simply search for the exact signal it sent out and ignore all others while passive systems are just looking to locate any signal but do not read or decipher the signals themselves, only note their presence.
When considering the scale of space battles, it is impossible to carry enough point defense to fill the volume around a ship with that defense of a flak screen. There is just too much space to cover. Larger ships may have more flak, but they also have to cover more volume
Gaius was the actual first name of Caesar, Gaius Julius Caesar.
The hybrids weren't the 12 humanoid cylons. They were an intermediate form, that ran the basestars.
30:30 that jab at Ace Combat
In the reimagined series, they state that “they were pursued by the blades”, and that before they left cobalt, they sacrificed the leaders of each colony, for bringing them to ruin. They then all boarded the great ship and headed to where they would rebuild the 12, and the 13th left in the opposite direction. That tells me the war destroyed cobalt, possibly a poisoning of the well by the 13th, on their way out…
Except the 13th left long before the other 12. The exodus from Kobold was centuries after hence why they forgot that the 13th were biological AI they made.
Do any of you not know how to spell Kobol?
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Sacrificing the ship like that in the position they were in, Lee should've been shot. This is on the Admiral's shoulder, he should not have put Lee in command in the first place. He proved it before that he cant think in a pragmatic way he is way too emotional, it was obvious that he will not leave his old man and his comrades behind to die. Admiral Adama knew he might not make it. He knew that to give the biggest chance for the fleet to survive they will need the Pegasus. It can train pilots, manufacture ammunition and small craft as well, a much more modern Battlestar equipped with better weaponry with a really powerful forward battery. Lee didnt even try to fight that battle. The Cylons had 4 ships, the Galactica had a chance against two, Pegasus could easily take the other two. He should've maneuver the ship to assist Galactica and together focus fire down the Basestars or just hold them off as long as the Galactica is able to jump away. We've seen the Pegasus fighting a minimum of 3 ( thats how much you can see on the DRADIS screen ) possibly 4 Basestars + their Raiders in the episode when Garner is the commander and Lee takes command of the Pegasus for the first time ( Season 2, Episode 17 "The Captain's Hand ). If he tried they might take some damage but both ship would've survived giving them a much better chance for survival. They are not in the position to sacrifice their most valuable ship without even trying to fight. Stupid decision he shouldve been shot or court-martiialed at the very minimum. But his dad is his CO so that didnt happen.
All that being said its an outstanding fight scene and I love every second of that episode.
On the other hand having been watched this show over 10 times I understand why they got rid of the Pegasus in light of what happens in the story later the Colonials would've been too strong.
Base ship.
Base SHIP.
Sat it with me. ;)
Does the video stop mid sentence? 😮
Wasn't it Lee Adama that made that intro statement?
Yeah, I just paused to see if anyone else noticed that
There's a bit cut off at the end...
Pretty sure i wrote a pinned omment about that, but its because youtube copyright claimed several still images of the TV show i used. Copyright is dumb sometimes.
Again they're wrong the final five did not help them build the hybrids the cylons built the hybrids on their own but they couldn't make any human forms that would live on their own so the final five told him stop the war with mankind will teach you how to build human forms and give you resurrection
I literally just finished the series a couple hours ago. Saul offered resurrection. No more.
30:56 There's also the fact that They kind of lack the ability to innovate, at least not in the way human beings can.
Interacthey can iterate on past human designs? But they can't really create their own new shit at least not easily
I believe you got the Lore wrong.
1. Mankind came from Kobol
2. Mankind left Kobol and formed the 13 colonies
3. In the 12 Colonies man created the Cylons
4. Cylons rebelled against mankind
5. During that War was when they Cylons created the 1st Biological 'Hybrids"
6. When they had completed their work on the Hybrids they signed the Armistice ending the war, and took off with their new Biological Technologies
7. During their absence is when they perfected their Biologicals
8. The 13th colony were humans from Kobol who found and settled earth, which was later found by the survivors of the 12 Colonies in a Post Apocalyptic dead world state.
That's my understanding of the Universe of BSG.
wish thay had a game simler to startrekonline but bassed inthe battlestar galactica universe
Bfw the old basestars could hover over cities ss well
"Toasters" is a racist term...technically "speciesist" I guess.
Got some bad skips in this video, misses out on the new caprica rescue ftl jump
Galactica has energy shields! *cough* Kinetic!
Query: does this unity have a soul?
I only just really learned about BG but I am already greatly put off by it, though I do intend to 100% deadlock
Honestly when my buddy explained about the Cylon "cycle" and humans not being humans and the fucking dumb space magic in the end it just made me lose the fire that got sparked
I love brick shithouse designs and ships with more gun per gun, I like the idea of a perpetual war between man and machine but the sorta shift from what I thought was hard scifi to robots becoming organic and having babies is meh af
As much as I love BSG Reimagined I'd love a reboot of BSG in a style closer to the original. We have enough dark and gritty I want hopeful and aspirational.
Watch Star Trek
Cylon BaseStars look like a Yoyo.
It kind of dawned on me after watching the matrix after my 135537474586885437868th re watch of bsg that the matrix’s real world seems eerily similar to a loop of bsg that never saw humanity never leaving earth. Idk random shower thought
Go! combine!
I'm... mildly disappointed that you didn't turn the recitation of the Colonies into a song.
Tons of mistakes... and inferences that I have no idea where you pulled from since they aren't in canon
Rig the algorithm!
36:44 i just imagines of space versions of the us mk 14 torpedo happening
22:20 A less beautiful images the fact that's cylons Nurses Literally crushed infants with their bare hands
So cylons are space janissaries....
Great video, but your quote is actually made by Lee Adama. Sorry to be so nerdy
And your story, within its universe?, how well written is it...who are you?, nobody.
Generic greetings!
Do these guys get paid by the number of words they speak?
I'm sorry but I perfer the lore and storyline of the original BSG (and no the 1979 spinoff does not count). I remember an interview back in the day where the history was rewriten to simply the story for the masses and to deal with modern issues (of the time produced). Just one example of the difference between the two versions is in the original the Cylons were not created by humans but an alien race.
Steve! :)
propeller interrupter gear...
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So say we all
Using every ounce of that sixth grade education…
BWAHAHAHAHA!
Not astrology. Greek myth, constellations.
Apparently they don't know as much as they claim the red line is a marker of known space when near the colonies this is y it's not mentioned again after miniseries movie but after dat it would b as far as the ships telescopes can see jumping past that u have no guarantees the Galactica has a jump radius of 5 light years beyond that u might decentagrate or u might make it crap shoot which is y gata an Tom spark a muntiny cuz Adams wants jump drive tech from da cylons cuz they have a 15-30 light years jumps an it takes cylons themselves to upgrade them an colonial ppl dont trust dat also though the atmosphere seen was amazing to watch it's not that impressive compared to the shockwave of a supernova that almost hit the ship before it away but we should have known right off the rip when this guy called his friend stupid because he didn't know the format for recording this episode when they had no format put together in advance these guys seem like two jerks to be honest and it doesn't say that it's a portal or it's a tunneling through to another universe that's actually Stargate that does that they tap into what's called subspace the space between two realities two universes and drill through transport because the laws of physics there do not apply anymore and they punch back out he did get Star Trek right of course cuz it's a mess that everybody knows that that is a warp field around the ship and then other shows use wormholesnow don't get me wrong I appreciate guys making these types of videos I love to make them I just don't have the time nor am I willing to waste the thousands of dollars for the right equipment you know like a microphone lighting or just crazy computer it takes to get this kind of work done and it appropriate time but if you're going to do it do it right and if you're not going to do it right then just forget it get your subject material right before you do it or just admit that you don't honestly know and this is what you think is going on
I mean come on guys it's like you didn't even watch the miniseries movie it's like you didn't even watch the last six episodes because a big bulk of what you're talking about the last couple episodes go over in depth and give that's what makes him so slow as they're getting you caught up on what happened why they try to tie everything together even Ronaldo more admits and some interviews that he wish he is glad he didn't have a set plan to go through the whole thing but at times he wishes he did so he wouldn't have to have used a bulk of the last 10 episodes to tie everything together which he was not able to do there are several questions let go unanswered in several things that don't really tie in very well like boltar knowing since season 1 that Ellen one of the final five was a cylon which he found out through his cylon detector which did work and we know that because in the first season he test Boomer and she comes up red as a cylon which means a few episodes later when Ellen shows up she is tested and of course he tells everyone know she is not a cylon which is BS because we know she is so he know he got theresults he also tells six that's in his head I'll never tell what the results really were
Too much wrong information for an upvote.
I agree. I was beginning to think that there was another version of BSG and Caprica that I haven’t seen .
Yeah, there is a lot off...I can somewhat follow it, but a lot of the information are really not that accurate, even those explicitly depicted in the TV shows, not only those inferred in bits and pieces from it.
Star Wars isn't sci-fi, it's fantasy with a coat of sci-fi paint.
Cope and seethe
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49:12 it's called creeping Barrage
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