Obviously times vary based on your team, but these are my best estimates! ENTER THE FINAL SHAPE COLLECTOR'S EDITION GIVEAWAY HERE!!! gleam.io/3uQ6W/final-shape-collectors-edition-giveaway-no-game-code
Getting a shiny every 2-3 runs of the easy 10 wave playlist mode. Even with the worst blueberries, you can do 10 waves in 10 mins. So a shiny every 20-30 min.
@@phantomskullstudios the ones that you seemingly get at the end of waves are just your weekly rewards for 50/100/150 total and 30/40/50 consecutive waves.
Are the drops like significantly better on legend compared to normal? Like is just doing 10 on legend worth it over doing 50 on normal with matchmaking?
With these changes. Farming level 10 will still be the most efficient farm. Your “chance” chest might not drop till 50. So waves 10-40 will still be two drops. With waves 30-40 giving a few extra tokens. Thats not worth the time. Level 10 is quick and simple, and now it’ll have a chance for 3rd chest.
@@st0nedpenguindespite being way under leveled by wave 50 the waves do still end up being about the same speed overall in my experience. My runs usually don’t go over an hour.
@st0nedpenguin he's counting in the travel time on the shorter farm. In and out of the activity 5 times in the hour.. minute in, 30 secs to set up 1st adu, 30 secs out? So maybe 2 min surcharge per run 10 over 5. Sounds about right I think.
I just came back to d2 played 6 matches of onslaught and got a shiny sniper, it’s not the best rolls or what im looking for but I’ve seen people grind this and get nothing so I think it is rng
These changes aren’t gonna do dick. The RNG isn’t good enough for only one extra chance at a gun that probably won’t even be the one you attuned to anyway. We need more chests after every waveset. On normal 10 waves = 1 chest, 20 waves = 2 chests, 30 waves = 3 chest etc. On legend, double the rewards - 10 waves = 2 chests, 20 waves = 4 chests, 30 = 6 chests etc. and if you do 50 waves on legend you get 10 chests with two guaranteed shiny weapons and an escalating chance for 3 more.
Same, my day 1 raid team in any 3-man combination can't make it pass 33. I got up to 29 with randos. I can solo wave 10 just fine so I'll keep doing that.
Don't want to be that guy but you can 100% do this even with bad teammates by just locking in. I had a guardian rank 4 blueberry on my team and the guy was precious. I absolutely locked in not to do it for the loot, but to do it for that guy. Gotta be the change you want to see in your teammates 💪
The times I use in the video are my averages and what I consider to be likely to be the average for a lot of people. That being said, your teams time will dictate the real answer
@@Ceelkernah..my team primary'd down the bosses to go into the next rounds with full heavy, had breaks and we were still about an hour and 10. That's not a flex.. we were slow
The average 50 waves runs for most people are NOT 55 minutes xD It's still probably gonna be more worth/easier to just farm 10 waves and reset. Especially how with often people fail on the higher waves and then you get nothing. The changes to the loot need to be even higher. This is not good enough...
you still get loot every 10 so saying you get nothing is a strait up lie. i do agree that 10 will still be efficient, but those who want to trust go for the most possible you might as well go for 50
@@sirjamjam101 I mostly disagree about the time estimate. every 10 waves you clear will get more and more difficult. I've had a few 55 minute runs but most will be quite a bit over an hour. Especially if you run with a less proficient/less effective team. For MOST people playing 10 waves and restarting will still be BY FAR the most effective farm =)
@@JoakimBD yeah but for me i’d say i’m decent at the game so i’m just gonna go for 50 each time cause there’s no reason for me not to. also see where you’re getting at =)
@@sirjamjam101 I think what they meant is that you don't really get rewarded for the exact wave you get to but are only rewarded on those 10 increments. If you lost on say wave 42? Not too bad. Just 2 waves you sort of "waste". But say you get to wave 8-9 and lose. That's 80-90% of that reward increment that you lose out on. Unless I just missed it and it already exists, I think a token reward based on the wave you got to and not just based on every 10 would be a nice change. Then even if you got to wave 48 and lost, you at least get a reward proportional to the time you put. But as it is currently, you only get guaranteed rewards every 10, so that incentivizes more and more players to just leave at those increments. I've had it happen in 1 run in just a normal Onslaught. One left right after the Wave 10 boss, another at Wave 30, and again at wave 40. Maybe they just crashed, but it happened so commonly (and it was the same slot being replaced by different players) that I genuinely think people were just joining and leaving after 10 waves even in normals. I'm fairly certain a lot of that has to do with the fact that the reward structure gives merit to those who only do the 10 waves.
@@ROFLWAFFLELAWL4 The failure is definitely something that needs to be taken into account. You’re bound to fail on occasion which loses you a bunch of rewards. Farming the first ten? Probably not.
10 is so much less stressful. The stakes for a 50 run are just super high and I don't have that kind of time to lock in for an hour with no options to step away if need be.
Honestly, doing 10 runs seems to still be the most efficient method. The enemies aren't that difficult and it's relatively safer, having lower chances to face the Tormentor that sometimes appear between waves. Running LFG is entertaining to say the least, there are great teammates and not that great teammates. The key is to keep the heavy crate available, so you can use it after the boss wave. I was using Dragon's Breath and Tether and I had a blast yesterday, getting a ton of Super back.
I’ve yet to get a double perk drop since day 1!! What’s the point of the attunement if the damn game won’t drop shit!!?! So I quit farming for hours bc I’m tired of grinding and not get it to drop. I believe this once I start getting drops, bc they said it was a 50% drop before it even started it’s been two weeks and I haven’t got shit. My clan mates have got drops but nothing for me, I believe this game hates me
I dont think that this'll do much. For most teams sets of 10 on legend will just be more consistent. I think the extra weapon at wave 50 needs to be shiny on legend, and each wave from 40-50 should have like a 10% (25% on legend) chance to drop a weapon.
Seems kinda weird that it takes you 11 minutes to clear 10 easy waves but only 55 minutes for a full 50 wave clear with escalating difficulty. The math doesn't seem to be mathing.
Normal Onslaught, Shaxx, and Orange crate can drop shiny weapons. This is huge for any casual and those who are limited from joining allies for any reason in legend version.
Watching this video made me realize that I sincerely hate Destiny now. We grind for hours to get guns just to grind for hours to get more guns. Guns that you eventually have to delete due to vault space, so it all ends up being a complete waste of time. Especially if you're mainly a PvP player. Appreciate the information though 🫡
bro we all got jobs we can’t just farm 1 hour of legend but u streamers just game everyday and it’s not fair for us. We should just farm 10 waves reset
This changes nothing it’s still more efficient to farm to wave 10 legend and reset. Wave 50 completion should have the same amount of chest as platinum coil run. This just my opinion though.
Normal 50 definitely is. Even without the changes, completing the activity and spending the tokens has been more than enough to acquire every curated roll of every weapon for daily active players. It really depends what you're after. If you want every curated roll, then the changes will help you achieve that as a casual, easily. But not every roll is really *that* good. Watch some guides on which rolls and why, and set some goals. Most of the ones I have came from matchmade. Now when I run Onslaught it's from boredom/fun; killing time til the next week's weapons. Just don't forget to be attuning the proper weapon at holo-Shaxx or you will be wasting a lot of time.
@Romulus_YT first 2 days i've got a few shinny weapons, after that , i haven't got a single one! i've done full legend runs, 10 waves farm, normal 50runs, opened chests , and not.a single shinny weapon
@@razvann07 sadly, I think there were far more issues after the last update than there were at the launch of ItL. I feel bad for people who postponed playtime waiting for an update to get quick rewards. But this is also natural since we are getting really close to the launch of the next DLC where most of their energy is likely focused. Bungie/Sony is undoubtedly nervous because they have to deliver on it 100%. So I'm sure they are not overly concerned with how free filler content performs. It sucks, but what can anyone really do? Btw, Final Shape is not removing this content, in case you didn't know. So don't worry too much about any bugs that may or may not come. You still have time to get everything once they have the time to put into it. Just enjoy the best you can. I haven't really been on this week apart from reset, but I do know they tweeted about and even pushed a memo in game about known issues with level 50 runs, advising people not to try for 50 until it gets resolved. Now, because I know they know the activity is screwed, that's enough for me to not even touch it - and I haven't since unlocking the weekly weapons. Will do the same for the final week probably. lol
50 waves wouldn't be efficient to farm, still not awarding enough even when the add the changes when you just do 10 Way Easier Way quicker. The difficulty rising every 10 waves not worth it
The difficulty doesn't even rise that much. If you compare wave 50 to wave 10 then yeah it seems a bit big but comparing wave 50 and wave 40 is hardly noticeable imo
I hate getting a shiny weapon for something I’m not attuned to, they need to make it so that what ever you are attuned to that only shiny weapons of that gun will drop
This will sound counter intuitive, but I think this is a terrible idea. I mean I get it sentiment but aren't these weapons and this mode mostly for catch up? These are literal catch up mechanics and modes just like in Wow and most other MMOs. Bungie has been bad and catch up mechanics in the past, possibly listening too much to content creators, and this originally seemed like it was for new or returning players. Many of these weapons aren't meant for players that have already reset Shaxx and wondering why there is no prestige ranks. Try to play the game mode in vanilla and it is boring af. There is very little or do and isn't that rewarding but we are rewarding the higher levels play for the mode when weapons are clearly geared more for players that don't have a Forbearance, Funnel Web, Succession, etc. already. Sure you can have it for both but the game really needs to double down more on new and returning players.
I still think farming wave 10 is better. U need a stacked team communicating & using full meta loadouts plus if you die anytime past wave 30, you are actually achieving less than a wave 10 farm. I’d rather just do wave 10 farm & listen to music or podcast & chill out.
Every legend complition has been with randoms and has never taken more than 1 hour 10 min, idk how people are taking these 2 hours or so runs. Also they said "chance" thats not even something that you will get.
That math is flawed with 50 waves. The fail chance is higher. And you need more time, with random lfg even more. Shaxx reset fix is more importent. This bounties are useless now.
even with this changes, bungie needs to increase the drop rate for shinys, i farmed all sunday, like 16 hours in a row and i didn't get a fck, i know this are supposed to be "exclusive" weapons but jesus christ we have like 1 month to farm for shinys, after the final shape launches this weapons are not going to be aviable, is just stupid to have this shitty droprate
Yeah your videos are cool play destiny 2 and the voice chat do not work and I went to my menu settings and reset it and it still do not work please tell me how to fix this
Did a few runs to round 10. No big deal. Decided to do one more before I long off. Well that didn’t go so well 😵💫 Failed on round 7 with randoms. Crazy! Waste of time.
Even with these changes people are still going to do the 10 runs farm there’s literally no incentive to do 50 waves legend when you’re not even guaranteed a shiny drop factor in the increasing difficulty and the 1 hour you’ll be wasting trying to reach that wave alongside LFG players having to deal with randoms with no mic. 10 waves is fast and easy and a guaranteed safe 2 chest
bro.. YOU literally determine what team you get put on using LFG. lmao so tired of seeing this argument like there are not variables team finder's can filter. smh if you want a mic then join a sweat team looking for meta and comms. there are countless ones available all day every day. I mean it's hoard mode tho.. really shouldn't need a mic to tell people to kill adds. lol
you have to take into account most people can't do legend efficiently or even at all. i cleared it with my friends but lfging it i can never get past the 20s. people be going in there not even 1800 or double primarying it.
@@Skarrow9 yea I don't mean it like disrespectful to people that struggle with it I just mean if you are going to attempt legend with Randoms then you have to bring the big guns as you can't rely on the others to do so
I have not deleted a single comment on this video lmao. I also haven’t seen anyone call this video clickbait? I’m not really sure why having a weapon in the thumbnail would be clickbait in this case lmao
@@Skarrow9 because the weapon isnt available to earn yet you put it in the thumbnail to make people think it is currently? Its not rocket science, its basic manipulation
@@voidrendx6601 It will be a shiny weapon and this will factually be the best way to farm it. That's not clickbait. The update I'm talking about also hasn't come out lmao. You're being very silly
Now they just need to fix weapon atunements it’s really annoying spending hours farming legend onslaught and 99% of the weapons being dropped are not the one you’re atuned to. Atuning to a weapon should make it so that only that weapon drops period otherwise wtf is the point
yep. I did a 50 wave run on normal and got one elsies that i was attuned to. I got like 4 snipers and i haven't even unlocked that. And got a bunch of hung juryies. Everything basically got deleted. Hour wasted.
@@kyalex3680 50/50 would be fine but its not. How else do you explain running 50 waves getting 10 drops and getting 2 weapons youre attuned to if you’re lucky. Just cuz you have extremely high rng doesn’t mean that’s true for the rest of us. Shiny drops are already abysmally low which is fine cuz they’re supposed to be rare but it feels pointless when 90% of the time you actually manage to get one to drop and it’s not even the weapon you’re attuned to
Wave 50 is the way to go. I have just been farming with friends and random LFG’s with coms. It’s been for the most part easy. It is easy to mess up and wipe. But as long as your on the same page with ads, OBJ’s and heavy it’s pretty free and a lot more fun then wave 10 farming. Even taking people through Onslaught their first time I normally get Legend 50 first try. Just gotta know basic strats and team comp 😁 trying to get as many people the 50 emblems as I can. As long as they aren’t dumb and I get my loot
people who solo legend to wave 10 and leave. +rep cool guys/gals people who use fireteam finder for legend just to get to wave 10 and leave. -rep either get gud and actually be useful or go back to normal
@@GW2Vids1and? You can literally shred normal mode enemies as they spawn, I've had some mediocre teammates but normal is pretty easy lmao, past wave 30 with randoms can be annoying but 10 is laughable.
95% of destiny 2 community WILL NOT successfully complete 50 waves on legend so your math does not make any sense for people outside your own streamer team :D
after an hour plus try at a 50 and then maybe another I find myself unable to even conjure the desire to try again and wind up taking a few days off. too much headache and wasted time in the 50 for me. no mats to get exotics to level 10 to try 'newest guaranteed super onslaught build' and no bank space to hold weapons until I figure out what the god roles actually are. no slots for the uber build load outs you need to be able to swap into and out of at least with 10 you make it and get something. leave the 50's for the 10% of players lucky enough to raid and have any chance of access to all the best gear/weapons and mats to buff them why chase gear for days to have it sunset and nerfed anyway. that is just gonna make me hate the game more. I'll just go to the reef and pop aliens for a few hours, at least that is fun. oh wait...
You are complaining that the limited edition rare is rare? Really? You could have chose any argument in this game and you chose that the limited rare weapon is rare... Just ponder on that for a solid minute...
@@ghosthouse6672 You're not buying what? Basic math? The more weapons that drop for you, the higher chance there is for you to get a shiny. It's literally just a numbers game
Such misinformation just because its the norm on discord, completing wave 50 gives a bonus for shinies to drop, so its all mental delusion and luck when farming 10 waves yields some or no shiny weapons. Either way the grind is dumb and bungie went too far with the drop rates and separating brave from shinies to then remove them come final shape….bungie cant do anything right or consumer friendly
@@Skarrow9 then at this point bungie and the community are in the same spot, now i am seeing that attunement isnt doing what bungie states it does….ill just throw my hands up and concede my bad
@@Skarrow9 Bro. I have a job. I try to drop by as often as I can though. :c It's clearly your job as a content creator to give the people what they want, and I, the people, want cat content. Do a Top Ten Cats That Live In Your House video and I'll sub.
I’m glad shiny weapons aren’t getting more common. They should remain extremely rare. I don’t care if the shiny weapons are technically better, the amount of people who can actually take advantage of the benefits of shiny weapons is maybe 50-100 people in the world. Us average players don’t need them. Let them be rare and preserve the actual excitement of random drops in the game.
Obviously times vary based on your team, but these are my best estimates! ENTER THE FINAL SHAPE COLLECTOR'S EDITION GIVEAWAY HERE!!! gleam.io/3uQ6W/final-shape-collectors-edition-giveaway-no-game-code
Getting a shiny every 2-3 runs of the easy 10 wave playlist mode. Even with the worst blueberries, you can do 10 waves in 10 mins. So a shiny every 20-30 min.
These might have gone live already been getting random drops of the weapons at the end of waves might want to test a bit more
@@phantomskullstudios the ones that you seemingly get at the end of waves are just your weekly rewards for 50/100/150 total and 30/40/50 consecutive waves.
Just wondering why you extended the giveaway?
@@ronaldearly9963 I’ve done a bad job promoting it. I haven’t talked about it on stream or Twitter much, so I thought it was only fair:
10 rounds is a lot safer, which is why most people are still gonna do it
Shaxx shouldn’t be resetable but they should let us continue to level him up for more engrams to help with weapon drops
100%
@@pJ-us2vlit stops leveling up at 17
@@pJ-us2vlit doesn’t level up and you don’t receive engrams
Same way Fynch and the Neomuna guy are. You just continue to level them and get engrams but no extra claimable items
@@GoDLiKe211 the progress bar is completely locked. It won’t let you get more than 17 engrams.
10 waves legend and then flying out is less headache than trying going for 50 waves with randoms and no mic.
Get some friends?
I did 50 wave legend no mic with lfg last night. It’s honestly luck on what waves you get…
Are the drops like significantly better on legend compared to normal? Like is just doing 10 on legend worth it over doing 50 on normal with matchmaking?
@@Samsonfsyeah relatively. Like my postmaster got full from one run of lvl 50 legend. And you get a but ton of ascendant alloy
@@Samsonfs you get double drops on legend. 2 chests after 10 waves. I would say legend is definitely worth it
With these changes. Farming level 10 will still be the most efficient farm. Your “chance” chest might not drop till 50. So waves 10-40 will still be two drops. With waves 30-40 giving a few extra tokens. Thats not worth the time. Level 10 is quick and simple, and now it’ll have a chance for 3rd chest.
The whole 11 minutes for the easiest 10 waves then 55 minutes for a full run doesn't sound anywhere near accurate either.
@@st0nedpenguindespite being way under leveled by wave 50 the waves do still end up being about the same speed overall in my experience. My runs usually don’t go over an hour.
@st0nedpenguin he's counting in the travel time on the shorter farm. In and out of the activity 5 times in the hour.. minute in, 30 secs to set up 1st adu, 30 secs out? So maybe 2 min surcharge per run 10 over 5. Sounds about right I think.
I've had more shiny weapons drop from Shaxx engrams and the bravery chest than legend runs.
I just came back to d2 played 6 matches of onslaught and got a shiny sniper, it’s not the best rolls or what im looking for but I’ve seen people grind this and get nothing so I think it is rng
These changes aren’t gonna do dick. The RNG isn’t good enough for only one extra chance at a gun that probably won’t even be the one you attuned to anyway. We need more chests after every waveset. On normal 10 waves = 1 chest, 20 waves = 2 chests, 30 waves = 3 chest etc. On legend, double the rewards - 10 waves = 2 chests, 20 waves = 4 chests, 30 = 6 chests etc. and if you do 50 waves on legend you get 10 chests with two guaranteed shiny weapons and an escalating chance for 3 more.
No? That’s a retarded amount of loot
Everyone talking about wave 50 being a piece of cake while I can't even find a decent team to finish wave 31
Same, my day 1 raid team in any 3-man combination can't make it pass 33. I got up to 29 with randos. I can solo wave 10 just fine so I'll keep doing that.
This might be a skill issue
Sounds like a personal problem
@@Megasty15 find a new raid team lol
Don't want to be that guy but you can 100% do this even with bad teammates by just locking in. I had a guardian rank 4 blueberry on my team and the guy was precious. I absolutely locked in not to do it for the loot, but to do it for that guy. Gotta be the change you want to see in your teammates 💪
yeah but wave 10 is like 15 minutes tops and 50 is usually over an hour
The times I use in the video are my averages and what I consider to be likely to be the average for a lot of people. That being said, your teams time will dictate the real answer
@@Skarrow9 Pretty much every post that I've seen about someone clearing legend 50 it's always 1 hour 30min at the least.
@@Ceelkernah..my team primary'd down the bosses to go into the next rounds with full heavy, had breaks and we were still about an hour and 10. That's not a flex.. we were slow
@Ceelker the team you see sucks then lmao..longest for me 1 hr 10 mins. But usually about an hoir
Today was a good day of gaming. I got a shiny Midnight Coup with Smallbore, Outlaw, & Rampage
The classic roll Midnight Coup is known for
Pretty mid roll ngl it’s a good roll but in endgame it will feel like a water gun
@@KalvinKoolAidKoolyour mother
@@KalvinKoolAidKool people wanna be in 2019 again or something lol it was good back then, hella mid now..agreed. there's way better perks on it.
@@ethannazareth5390 cope
Finally more rewards for wave 50. Been falling asleep while farming wave 10 runs.
So cool how attuning a weapon doesn’t make all the shiny weapons you get that one. Loving my 4 doodoo successions instead of guillotines!
The average 50 waves runs for most people are NOT 55 minutes xD It's still probably gonna be more worth/easier to just farm 10 waves and reset. Especially how with often people fail on the higher waves and then you get nothing. The changes to the loot need to be even higher. This is not good enough...
you still get loot every 10 so saying you get nothing is a strait up lie. i do agree that 10 will still be efficient, but those who want to trust go for the most possible you might as well go for 50
@@sirjamjam101 I mostly disagree about the time estimate. every 10 waves you clear will get more and more difficult. I've had a few 55 minute runs but most will be quite a bit over an hour. Especially if you run with a less proficient/less effective team. For MOST people playing 10 waves and restarting will still be BY FAR the most effective farm =)
@@JoakimBD yeah but for me i’d say i’m decent at the game so i’m just gonna go for 50 each time cause there’s no reason for me not to. also see where you’re getting at =)
@@sirjamjam101 I think what they meant is that you don't really get rewarded for the exact wave you get to but are only rewarded on those 10 increments. If you lost on say wave 42? Not too bad. Just 2 waves you sort of "waste". But say you get to wave 8-9 and lose. That's 80-90% of that reward increment that you lose out on.
Unless I just missed it and it already exists, I think a token reward based on the wave you got to and not just based on every 10 would be a nice change. Then even if you got to wave 48 and lost, you at least get a reward proportional to the time you put. But as it is currently, you only get guaranteed rewards every 10, so that incentivizes more and more players to just leave at those increments.
I've had it happen in 1 run in just a normal Onslaught. One left right after the Wave 10 boss, another at Wave 30, and again at wave 40. Maybe they just crashed, but it happened so commonly (and it was the same slot being replaced by different players) that I genuinely think people were just joining and leaving after 10 waves even in normals. I'm fairly certain a lot of that has to do with the fact that the reward structure gives merit to those who only do the 10 waves.
@@ROFLWAFFLELAWL4 The failure is definitely something that needs to be taken into account.
You’re bound to fail on occasion which loses you a bunch of rewards.
Farming the first ten? Probably not.
They should just put in a legend 10 wave mode. 🤷
Came from The Last Word podcast, youtube had never suggested me one of your videos before. Great vid!
that's awesome, I wanted the legend 50 wave runs to be more rewarding because tbh the difficulty is where the fun is.
All weapons should be crafted with two perks to have one weapon for PvP and PvE
10 is so much less stressful. The stakes for a 50 run are just super high and I don't have that kind of time to lock in for an hour with no options to step away if need be.
its still not worth to do all 50 legend waves. legend 10 is way safer and a lot less room for error
50 normal is going to be the best as 90% of the community isn't going to put up with a headache of legend.
Haven't even attempted a 50 wave legend run and probably won't unless friends get back on the game. Just not worth it.
Honestly, doing 10 runs seems to still be the most efficient method. The enemies aren't that difficult and it's relatively safer, having lower chances to face the Tormentor that sometimes appear between waves. Running LFG is entertaining to say the least, there are great teammates and not that great teammates. The key is to keep the heavy crate available, so you can use it after the boss wave. I was using Dragon's Breath and Tether and I had a blast yesterday, getting a ton of Super back.
I’ve yet to get a double perk drop since day 1!! What’s the point of the attunement if the damn game won’t drop shit!!?! So I quit farming for hours bc I’m tired of grinding and not get it to drop. I believe this once I start getting drops, bc they said it was a 50% drop before it even started it’s been two weeks and I haven’t got shit. My clan mates have got drops but nothing for me, I believe this game hates me
I dont think that this'll do much. For most teams sets of 10 on legend will just be more consistent.
I think the extra weapon at wave 50 needs to be shiny on legend, and each wave from 40-50 should have like a 10% (25% on legend) chance to drop a weapon.
Seems kinda weird that it takes you 11 minutes to clear 10 easy waves but only 55 minutes for a full 50 wave clear with escalating difficulty.
The math doesn't seem to be mathing.
5x the loading time between 10s
An opportunity to drink some water
Normal Onslaught, Shaxx, and Orange crate can drop shiny weapons. This is huge for any casual and those who are limited from joining allies for any reason in legend version.
i would love to see them make it so that every 10 waves u get one more chest and at least one garrunteed shinny at 50
Watching this video made me realize that I sincerely hate Destiny now. We grind for hours to get guns just to grind for hours to get more guns. Guns that you eventually have to delete due to vault space, so it all ends up being a complete waste of time. Especially if you're mainly a PvP player.
Appreciate the information though 🫡
Are they also going to fix the boss door bug where the top node won’t activate?
Level 50 clears are just more engaging than flying in and doing 10. Maybe im just coping.
Sometimes I join a 50 wave room, only to join a room that has finished a few waves. So no 50 for me.
Gonna be on stellar blade next week 😩
bro we all got jobs we can’t just farm 1 hour of legend but u streamers just game everyday and it’s not fair for us. We should just farm 10 waves reset
Streaming is not my full time job ✌️
Great info thankyou
Me and 2 random blueberries were at wave 46 in 2hrs 😭 why?
not good enough builds ig
6 shiny drops in 30 hours of play is bad math :(
This changes nothing it’s still more efficient to farm to wave 10 legend and reset. Wave 50 completion should have the same amount of chest as platinum coil run. This just my opinion though.
about the next change on normal mode i got i guaranteed 1 shiny version at wave 50 clear ?
Indeed. Normal isn't worthy of the time, tokens matter too
Me and a friend just farmed 10 waves on legend and reloaded back in
My friends no longer play anything that isn't a raid, and I don't trust LFG, so casual it is for me I guess
Since I mostly play solo will just doing the 50 waves on normal be a good enough farm? ( not optimal of cause but still some what ok )
LFG 10 wave farms at the minimum imo
I’ve had a few shiny weapons drop from reg 50, statistically legend is obv better. To answer your question though, I’ve had success farming regular.
Normal 50 definitely is. Even without the changes, completing the activity and spending the tokens has been more than enough to acquire every curated roll of every weapon for daily active players. It really depends what you're after. If you want every curated roll, then the changes will help you achieve that as a casual, easily. But not every roll is really *that* good. Watch some guides on which rolls and why, and set some goals. Most of the ones I have came from matchmade. Now when I run Onslaught it's from boredom/fun; killing time til the next week's weapons. Just don't forget to be attuning the proper weapon at holo-Shaxx or you will be wasting a lot of time.
@Romulus_YT first 2 days i've got a few shinny weapons, after that , i haven't got a single one! i've done full legend runs, 10 waves farm, normal 50runs, opened chests
, and not.a single shinny weapon
@@razvann07 sadly, I think there were far more issues after the last update than there were at the launch of ItL. I feel bad for people who postponed playtime waiting for an update to get quick rewards. But this is also natural since we are getting really close to the launch of the next DLC where most of their energy is likely focused. Bungie/Sony is undoubtedly nervous because they have to deliver on it 100%. So I'm sure they are not overly concerned with how free filler content performs. It sucks, but what can anyone really do? Btw, Final Shape is not removing this content, in case you didn't know. So don't worry too much about any bugs that may or may not come. You still have time to get everything once they have the time to put into it. Just enjoy the best you can. I haven't really been on this week apart from reset, but I do know they tweeted about and even pushed a memo in game about known issues with level 50 runs, advising people not to try for 50 until it gets resolved. Now, because I know they know the activity is screwed, that's enough for me to not even touch it - and I haven't since unlocking the weekly weapons. Will do the same for the final week probably. lol
Must be nice to have a team to get to 50. 9/10 times it’s the tormentor round that messes my fireteam up. Anyone have suggestions for the tormentor?
Still haven’t played onslaught. But I will once the changes are in
Like what changes?
@@willpackson5bro did not watch any of the video
@@willpackson5the video is only 6 mins long bro
@budzee313 sorry haven't slept that well as of late.
Actually, sorry to the both of you. I haven't been sleeping well at all as of lately.
It's not difficult to do with no mic it's just survival, don't die
What shader is on your chest piece? The look is great!
Ablaze!
50 waves wouldn't be efficient to farm, still not awarding enough even when the add the changes when you just do 10 Way Easier Way quicker. The difficulty rising every 10 waves not worth it
The difficulty doesn't even rise that much. If you compare wave 50 to wave 10 then yeah it seems a bit big but comparing wave 50 and wave 40 is hardly noticeable imo
If I had a consistent team, I’d do 50 legend farm but nah, so 10 wave legend farm it is
"Significantly more"... that's not significant enough to fight through +30 content lol
30%+ more is quite a bump
Liking the changes, we are usually knocking out 50 waves in 50-55 minutes and its also so much more fun than doing the 10 wave farm.
50 is more fun anyway 6:27
10 rounds most consistent and I don’t have a great team. I’ll stick to 10 personally
I hate getting a shiny weapon for something I’m not attuned to, they need to make it so that what ever you are attuned to that only shiny weapons of that gun will drop
5 hung jurys and no midnight coup, fr they need to add this
This will sound counter intuitive, but I think this is a terrible idea. I mean I get it sentiment but aren't these weapons and this mode mostly for catch up?
These are literal catch up mechanics and modes just like in Wow and most other MMOs. Bungie has been bad and catch up mechanics in the past, possibly listening too much to content creators, and this originally seemed like it was for new or returning players. Many of these weapons aren't meant for players that have already reset Shaxx and wondering why there is no prestige ranks.
Try to play the game mode in vanilla and it is boring af. There is very little or do and isn't that rewarding but we are rewarding the higher levels play for the mode when weapons are clearly geared more for players that don't have a Forbearance, Funnel Web, Succession, etc. already. Sure you can have it for both but the game really needs to double down more on new and returning players.
I still think farming wave 10 is better. U need a stacked team communicating & using full meta loadouts plus if you die anytime past wave 30, you are actually achieving less than a wave 10 farm. I’d rather just do wave 10 farm & listen to music or podcast & chill out.
I do normal. been getting lucky 6 OF the really rear ones
Can anyone tell me the purpose of the random tormentor spwns after a boss fight? Do we get extra loot for killing all tormentors?
Every tormentor you get the final blow on gives you a coin thing
For the most part yes, ive always received a brave weapon by downing at least 4 before the timer runs out
Every legend complition has been with randoms and has never taken more than 1 hour 10 min, idk how people are taking these 2 hours or so runs.
Also they said "chance" thats not even something that you will get.
Chance until wave 50 where it's guaranteed. You will get both extra weapons EVERY TIME if you get to 50.
I go a do the bounty for the weapon and get my shiny and that’s enough.
That math is flawed with 50 waves. The fail chance is higher. And you need more time, with random lfg even more. Shaxx reset fix is more importent. This bounties are useless now.
10 is a lot easier and you don't have to carry your team
Okay but I still have no idea what Shiny Weapons are.
Can someone elaborate?
Well i have gotten thru 48 waves and then poo….. so close. I use fireteam finder. Most of those folks are more ass than even me
When is this change happening I just completed Legend 50 waves and didn’t get a single shiny ✨
even with this changes, bungie needs to increase the drop rate for shinys, i farmed all sunday, like 16 hours in a row and i didn't get a fck, i know this are supposed to be "exclusive" weapons but jesus christ we have like 1 month to farm for shinys, after the final shape launches this weapons are not going to be aviable, is just stupid to have this shitty droprate
Yeah your videos are cool play destiny 2 and the voice chat do not work and I went to my menu settings and reset it and it still do not work please tell me how to fix this
And and and and and... Could of asked google and had an answer..
Did a few runs to round 10. No big deal. Decided to do one more before I long off. Well that didn’t go so well 😵💫 Failed on round 7 with randoms. Crazy! Waste of time.
Round 7? U must have had either very unlucky waves or brain dead team mates 😂
Even with these changes people are still going to do the 10 runs farm there’s literally no incentive to do 50 waves legend when you’re not even guaranteed a shiny drop factor in the increasing difficulty and the 1 hour you’ll be wasting trying to reach that wave alongside LFG players having to deal with randoms with no mic. 10 waves is fast and easy and a guaranteed safe 2 chest
Do you even need a mic to do onslaught though
bro.. YOU literally determine what team you get put on using LFG. lmao so tired of seeing this argument like there are not variables team finder's can filter. smh if you want a mic then join a sweat team looking for meta and comms. there are countless ones available all day every day. I mean it's hoard mode tho.. really shouldn't need a mic to tell people to kill adds. lol
Why is Not Forgotten in the thumbnail...? 🤔
you have to take into account most people can't do legend efficiently or even at all. i cleared it with my friends but lfging it i can never get past the 20s. people be going in there not even 1800 or double primarying it.
I talk about that sort of thing at the end of the video. It 100% comes down to your team’s ability and speed.
@@Skarrow9 yea I don't mean it like disrespectful to people that struggle with it I just mean if you are going to attempt legend with Randoms then you have to bring the big guns as you can't rely on the others to do so
50 wave on normal is an hour and 10 minutes for me.
Are you actually deleting comments calling you out for putting lunas in as clickbait? are you serious lmfao
I have not deleted a single comment on this video lmao. I also haven’t seen anyone call this video clickbait? I’m not really sure why having a weapon in the thumbnail would be clickbait in this case lmao
@@Skarrow9 because the weapon isnt available to earn yet you put it in the thumbnail to make people think it is currently? Its not rocket science, its basic manipulation
@@voidrendx6601 It will be a shiny weapon and this will factually be the best way to farm it. That's not clickbait.
The update I'm talking about also hasn't come out lmao.
You're being very silly
@@Skarrow9 buddy youve already shown your hand to be a click baiter , anyone with a brain can see what youre trying to do ;)
@@voidrendx6601 Clickbait this ratio
What’s that emblem he has and how to get it ??? @anyone
Probably something no longer attainable.
content creator emblem, no longer available unless someone has a code, don’t buy them (you’ll probably be scammed)
Currently edging to this
Eager edging?
@@Neji1984 edging my asshole as we speak.
Is this already live in game?
next week!
Did you watch the full video?
Now they just need to fix weapon atunements it’s really annoying spending hours farming legend onslaught and 99% of the weapons being dropped are not the one you’re atuned to. Atuning to a weapon should make it so that only that weapon drops period otherwise wtf is the point
Might as well hand it to you at that point. If a 50/50 is too unforgiving, idk what to tell you.
yep. I did a 50 wave run on normal and got one elsies that i was attuned to. I got like 4 snipers and i haven't even unlocked that. And got a bunch of hung juryies. Everything basically got deleted. Hour wasted.
it makes it a 50% chance which is good
@@kyalex3680 50/50 would be fine but its not. How else do you explain running 50 waves getting 10 drops and getting 2 weapons youre attuned to if you’re lucky. Just cuz you have extremely high rng doesn’t mean that’s true for the rest of us. Shiny drops are already abysmally low which is fine cuz they’re supposed to be rare but it feels pointless when 90% of the time you actually manage to get one to drop and it’s not even the weapon you’re attuned to
@@sirjamjam101 it’s not a 50% chance lmfao not even remotely close
Wave 50 is the way to go. I have just been farming with friends and random LFG’s with coms. It’s been for the most part easy. It is easy to mess up and wipe. But as long as your on the same page with ads, OBJ’s and heavy it’s pretty free and a lot more fun then wave 10 farming. Even taking people through Onslaught their first time I normally get Legend 50 first try. Just gotta know basic strats and team comp 😁 trying to get as many people the 50 emblems as I can. As long as they aren’t dumb and I get my loot
i donno why but for some reason seeing Hasan trending in the background while you are talking about Destiny 2 is so funny to me
Good changes bungie!
Not enough
people who solo legend to wave 10 and leave. +rep cool guys/gals
people who use fireteam finder for legend just to get to wave 10 and leave. -rep either get gud and actually be useful or go back to normal
I don't even understand how to go past 10 on normal
Bro how bad is your gear? You could probably get past 10 by just banking batteries and letting your randoms shoot the enemies
@@Samsonfs Not about the gear, on normal you get matchmade...
@@GW2Vids1and? You can literally shred normal mode enemies as they spawn, I've had some mediocre teammates but normal is pretty easy lmao, past wave 30 with randoms can be annoying but 10 is laughable.
@@Samsonfs It just tells that you dont play normal in normal Q. It ends after 10
Get a shiny at 50 I’m on it
Massive w from Bungie. Shout out for going through footage and counting for the people.
95% of destiny 2 community WILL NOT successfully complete 50 waves on legend so your math does not make any sense for people outside your own streamer team :D
Acting like everyone who doesn’t stream is bad at the game is very naive and silly.
after an hour plus try at a 50 and then maybe another I find myself unable to even conjure the desire to try again and wind up taking a few days off.
too much headache and wasted time in the 50 for me.
no mats to get exotics to level 10 to try 'newest guaranteed super onslaught build' and no bank space to hold weapons until I figure out what the god roles actually are.
no slots for the uber build load outs you need to be able to swap into and out of
at least with 10 you make it and get something.
leave the 50's for the 10% of players lucky enough to raid and have any chance of access to all the best gear/weapons and mats to buff them
why chase gear for days to have it sunset and nerfed anyway. that is just gonna make me hate the game more.
I'll just go to the reef and pop aliens for a few hours, at least that is fun. oh wait...
Can they just make the 50 wave playlist matchmaking???
It is matchmaking apart from legend
just in game lfg. select no mic so you don't have to communicate and you will find a bunch of people you can join even without a request.
@@shad8738 did they just make it matchmaking or was it always matchmaking?
@@blackdeath1619normal 50 wave has always been matchmaking.
@@blackdeath1619 its the node on the right hand side
Also, high-wave Legend Onslaught is a bit too intense imo. They need to dial down the enemies a lot...
Do shinys only drop in legendary
No they can drop in any onslaught
No!
I wil report guardains for leaving fire team after the 10 round!!! Is not sportive…..
Doesn’t fucking matter if the drop rate on shiny in the same
More guns per hour = more chance per hour
@@Skarrow9 not buying it.. until it works for me? And my team it’s bullshit
You are complaining that the limited edition rare is rare? Really? You could have chose any argument in this game and you chose that the limited rare weapon is rare... Just ponder on that for a solid minute...
@@silv3784 listen.. don’t tell me you have never grinded days and hours for a god roll adept palindrome before the sunset and never got it..
@@ghosthouse6672 You're not buying what? Basic math? The more weapons that drop for you, the higher chance there is for you to get a shiny. It's literally just a numbers game
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Such misinformation just because its the norm on discord, completing wave 50 gives a bonus for shinies to drop, so its all mental delusion and luck when farming 10 waves yields some or no shiny weapons. Either way the grind is dumb and bungie went too far with the drop rates and separating brave from shinies to then remove them come final shape….bungie cant do anything right or consumer friendly
Wave 50 100% does not have a bonus for shinies to drop. That is factually incorrect.
@@Skarrow9 then at this point bungie and the community are in the same spot, now i am seeing that attunement isnt doing what bungie states it does….ill just throw my hands up and concede my bad
W mans
Soooo did this even get implemented???? Lmaoo
The update comes out next week!
@@Skarrow9 ty 😊
First. How do I farm cat content?
She's been around the streams lately! 4
@@Skarrow9 Bro. I have a job. I try to drop by as often as I can though. :c
It's clearly your job as a content creator to give the people what they want, and I, the people, want cat content. Do a Top Ten Cats That Live In Your House video and I'll sub.
@@PrinceAoi She’s been around my Twitter too!
@@Skarrow9I follow you. Not seeing those is on me. I take responsibility for that failure.
Wave 50 easy clap
W
I’m glad shiny weapons aren’t getting more common. They should remain extremely rare.
I don’t care if the shiny weapons are technically better, the amount of people who can actually take advantage of the benefits of shiny weapons is maybe 50-100 people in the world. Us average players don’t need them. Let them be rare and preserve the actual excitement of random drops in the game.
Copium much?
@@AntaresTwo6what lmfao? How is that copium 🤣
No views in 36s he fell off.
Stop with the bot comments my guy.
6 likes in 23 mins. Your comment fell off.
@@crazykangaroo1338 real
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I'm so sick of these comments! 💀😂
@the_hamburman true I have seen it everywhere myself I just thought to do it once for the lols 😆