+BANGER Finally I got it verified. I didn't have the time to sit down and give my opinion. But I was always confused about how .....For Victory could be grindcore. Carcass was my introduction to grindcore. And I have one word for melodic death blah blah. Swansong etc... : DIATRIBES Thats one is more melodeth than Heartwork and Swansong combined.
Jay Ray From what I have learned watching reviewers, music is the easiest way to get your video taken down.... They would have to get the rights to play even short bits of music.
Loved, loved this episode! Pertaining to the sub-categorization of Grind and it's moreso incestuous- nature of compilations, covers and collaborations, that was a good move putting up Goregrind. Pornogrind, Deathgrind, Cybergrind, are just as important in today's evolution of the genre. Deathgrind would have your bands like Aborted (based on certain combinations of riffs, breaks, and drum stylization), Beknghted, Magrudergrind, Cattle Decapitation; Other Goregrind bands to add should be The Day Everything Became Nothing, Sublime Cadaveric Decomposition, and Last Days of Humanity-- And don't forget Lymphatic Phlegm and it's amazing medical terminology and graphic artwork akin of Carcass and Mayhem album covers from a couple years before. Pornogrind bands like Cemetary Rapist, SpermSwamp, Rompeprop, Waco Jesus, Prostitute Disfigurement, etc.. Cybergrind took off after Ministry and Kovenant, lots of Noisecore aspects in Cybergrind too like the Locust (bands like the Berzerker absolutely). Powerviolence is just Hardcore with balls. Haha. *side note- I saw Fuck the Facts live about 4 years ago at the Frequency in Madison, WI and they were absolutely terrible (even for Grind standards).
Just for the sake of your show's reputation, there has to be a PART 2 to this... and do a way better job on the subject of grindcore. There is NO way AGATHOCLES (the longest running active grindcore band since 1985) was not even considered here.
Man they totally forgot the rest of the grindcore band: Righteous Pigs, S.O.B., Unseen Terror, Old Lady Drivers, Assück, Blood, Defecation, Blood Duster, Wormrot, Lock Up, Trap Them, NAILS, Impetigo, Cripple Bastards, Misery Index, Phobia, ACxDC, Nausea, P.L.F., Cretin, Wake, Exit-13, Magrudergrind, Birdflesh, Soilent Green, Antigama, Unholy Grave, Impaled, Exhumed, & Agathocles. For Goregrind: General Surgery, Regurgitate, Haemorrhage, Dead Infection, Last Day for Humanity, Squash Bowels, Machetazo, Disgorge (Mexico), & Viscera Infest. That's all the bands I know.
Come on... what about Impetigo, Last Days Of Humanity and Macabre? Also there should have been no debate about AC. Ask anyone what genre AC are and they would say Grindcore. Also anyone who listens to metal or punk knows them, they are very well known.
+Justin Dittburner NAILS are a newer band with a lot of influences in their sound they don't quite stand out has having the quintessential power-violence sound that you'd find with bands like Infest, Crossed Out and Spazz
+Justin Dittburner IMO Nails are on the fence between powerviolence and grindcore. I haven't heard them since their last album though but thats what I remember.
It would be nice to see Crust Punk / Crust as well. After all its the best example of punk combining metal / extreme metal, it INFLUENCED grindcore and it's active in todays underground extreme scene. Greetings from Romania!
I think you should have mentioned Cryptic Slaughter, yes they are not a grindcore band, and only had 4 albums, but their influence here in the UK on Napalm Death and the rest of the early Grindcore bands is undeniable. Naplam Death still cover their song "lowlife"
Where's Ratos De Porão? Perhaps, the first grindcore band as they were crossing over punk and hardcore with the typical dirty belching guitar tones, blastbeats back in 1981/1982.
Just putting it out there, but Deathgrind is a genre. Aka, this is where you'd put Cattle Decapitation, Cephalic Carnage, Misery Index, and latter day Napalm Death (though they should obviously stay in Grindcore for their massive influence).
Would love to see a thrash debate, Big 4 and beyond. Being arguably the genre with the greatest longevity, and most loyal fans, there is a ton to discuss here.
I think there is a need for a second episode. I also can't believe Assuck wasn't discussed. In talk of of innovation and influence they were shockingly groundbreaking. They had two releases in 89, and they were onto the "Florida Death Metal" sound, while still sounding punk rock, with extremely socio-political lyrics
I don't like Grindcore, but I still love to watch ALL these episodes. I (mostly) love it when people are passionate and knowledgeable about the things they like.
Why is that? A lot of screamo is influenced by hardcore punk and black metal. Very lofi a lot of the times too. Listen to I Am Nietzsche by Orchid and tell me what you think.
My first contact with this show/Channel, liked it a lot...Missed in this Grindcore debate completely SxOxBx (How could you guys miss this one ;-), essential) and the rather heavy influences of protogrinders SIEGE/HERESY/LÄRM... Oh yeah, put AxCx in a noisecore subgenre with bands like CSSO, Gore Beyond Necropsy, 7 Seconds of Nausea (essentially the early Nuclear Blast catalogue)...More on this topic please!!! Thanks!!!
Just met Kevin in the last couple days, he's worth a meet, friendly without an attitude. This might have been the episode when I decided to change my user name to this (because of Sam mentioning possible banger staff members as commenters).
I know I am going to get lambasted for this but there should be an episode on deathcore. They did one for Mathcore which is a sub genre of metalcore, which also has its own episode. It's only fair. Give love to all the metal.
Cattle Decap, glad they're on here, IMO, if you go back to their demos, early EP's, then on to "To Serve Man" "Humanure" and "Karma. Bloody. Karma" that all is pretty grindcore, and with "THF" "Monolith" and "Anthropecene Extinction" they fall more int a Deathgrind category, so i do believe they deserve to be up there
I personally consider Grindcore as an extreme version of HC/Punk! From that point of view, Goregrind is imo more related to Death Metal (although lyrically). Also; Extreme Noise Terror is/was pure HC/Punk (they got their name from a Dutch HC band called 'Lärm' - one of the first European Straight Edge bands) & Bolt Thrower is a Death Metal band (although one of their primar influences was U.K.'s Sacrilege, one of the first Stenchcore/ Crust/ Crossover bands). Most imporant bands who started the Grindcore subgenre; U.K.'s (early)Napalm Death (off course), Belgiums Agathocles, Japan's S.O.B. & U.S. Terrorizer! I also refuse to label technical fast Death Metal bands as Grindcore...
Fear Of God (As Statues Fell, 1988) is a pretty seminal one. Not sure how influential. Carcass should be in there. Maybe Last Days of Humanity-as one of the longest running and best goregrind acts-too. Rather than Cephalic Carnage.
Why's no one talking about old school grindcore like Heresy and unseen terror , seige etc.. those other bands wouldn't be around if it weren't for the early grindcore bands
Well, one thing special about Carcass is each of their album falls into different sub-genres. From grindcore → death-grind→ death metal → melodic death → death 'n' roll
I have a strong advice for you guys after I've watched many episodes of Lock Horns. You guys should base on albums, not bands. What albums contribute to to one specific genre. 'Cause in a lot of cases, bands change style. That's where argument comes from.
The guy giving the powerviolence description is WAY off, in my opinion. Powerviolence is just hardcore punk with a lot of time signature/tempo changes, with the addition of blast beats. Powerviolence shares a lot more in common with hardcore than metal, although a lot of bands do play a cross between grind and PV. I would never dare consider Spazz, Charles Bronson, Asshole Parade, or Infest as metal bands because their music mostly resembles hardcore punk in presentation, aesthetics, lyrical content, and sonic style.
Rotten sound, Pig Destroyer, Dying fetus, Putrid pile, cephalic carnage and 50 other bands are playing at Full Terror Assault open air fest in August. i went last year it is the best time you will ever have and its BYOB.
Hello Banger, hello Sam and hello to the other guy who likes Punk! I know that the following bands Im going to mention are not really Grindcore. but don't you think that without Hirax and Cryptic Slaughter the would be not grindcore? Hello from Caracas.Venezuela.😂
Agree about keeping Carcass . . . Was lucky to get into them when they debuted stateside. The lyrics were disgusting, but that they matched the "music" with lyrics (what if rotting guts made music! D: ) was waaay ahead of its time. As Sam said, there was no such thing as "Gore-Grind" yet. They STARTED as a Grindcore band, Napalm Death and Carcass brought the brvtality to the world and all followed. Carcass and Napalm should stand at the TOP. The "Kids" should listen to the 1st 3 albums to hear why they are/were considered Grindcore. They definitely could be in 3 categories. I'm all for Terrorizer as well! They are one of the 1st I heard on a early Thrash, Death and Grindcore Radio show from Claremont College KSPC called "Infernal Rage" by a student who was 18 from Seattle BEFORE the "Grunge" era. And Brujera as well. Not that they were influential (maybe in Japan), I wanted to mention Japan's "S.O.B.", I believe was the 1st Japanese Grindcore band that I thought should've been mentioned in "Global Metal" (sadly the vocalist committed suicide in 1995). Also "Godflesh" was another I heard when they debuted, they were included on the "Grindcrusher Compilation", but Hellbastard was included as well, who seem more Thrash (also see: "OLD/Old Lady Drivers" Grindcore meets Mr. Bungle). And what about "Disharmonic Orchestra"? They were . . . different. Sorry I missed the discussion :(.
I consider cattle décapitation are combination of extreme death metal, brutal death metal, progressive death metal and goregrind. Aborted and benighted are extreme death metal. Bolt thrower is death metal. It needs to have that chaotic and noisy sound to be grindcore in my opinion. The first few napalm death albums are my definition of grindcore
Is Macabre a folk metal vand, a grind core band or a folk grind band? we need a label for this band. and they have been around for a very long time so and have a devoted following so I believe they deserve to be put on a list
Hello Banger, hello Sam and hello to the other guy who likes Punk! I know that the following bands Im going to mention are not really Grindcore. but don't you think that without Hirax and Cryptic Slaughter the would be not grindcore? Hello from Caracas.Venezuela.😂😈
Brujeria has grind aspects but not full on grindcore. Matando Gueros the title track didnt have anything remotely grind in that song but a song like Leyes Narcos is full on grind. I always saw them not a joke band but a gimmick band but brutal as fuck. The bass levels are fucking booming on Matando Gueros and Raza Odiada.
Nah fam, full of hell is ok in its own ways but they aren't really grindcore. If you want grind then check out bands like deterioration, horrendous miscreation, p.l.f., and rot
I don't know how I feel about their definition of powerviolence. While a lot of newer pv bands have that big, sludgy sound, a lot of the older bands were more about being loud, violent, and abrasive without being too metal. Powerviolence songs are shorter, less structured, and have much more hardcore influence than grindcore songs. Infest is a great example of this, with a lot of their albums being the end-all-be-all of the genre for many fans.
Siege was ment to be hardcore and was in the hardcore scene but was way faster than hardcore and no one knew how to name it. Proto power-violence, proto-grindcore.
Sorry about the sync issues - it gets fixed around 7:00.
+BANGER Finally I got it verified. I didn't have the time to sit down and give my opinion. But I was always confused about how .....For Victory could be grindcore. Carcass was my introduction to grindcore. And I have one word for melodic death blah blah. Swansong etc... : DIATRIBES Thats one is more melodeth than Heartwork and Swansong combined.
this is awesome, but this show would be super awesome if you added some music from the band's that you mention. just saying
Jay Ray From what I have learned watching reviewers, music is the easiest way to get your video taken down.... They would have to get the rights to play even short bits of music.
Loved, loved this episode! Pertaining to the sub-categorization of Grind and it's moreso incestuous- nature of compilations, covers and collaborations, that was a good move putting up Goregrind. Pornogrind, Deathgrind, Cybergrind, are just as important in today's evolution of the genre. Deathgrind would have your bands like Aborted (based on certain combinations of riffs, breaks, and drum stylization), Beknghted, Magrudergrind, Cattle Decapitation; Other Goregrind bands to add should be The Day Everything Became Nothing, Sublime Cadaveric Decomposition, and Last Days of Humanity-- And don't forget Lymphatic Phlegm and it's amazing medical terminology and graphic artwork akin of Carcass and Mayhem album covers from a couple years before.
Pornogrind bands like Cemetary Rapist, SpermSwamp, Rompeprop, Waco Jesus, Prostitute Disfigurement, etc..
Cybergrind took off after Ministry and Kovenant, lots of Noisecore aspects in Cybergrind too like the Locust (bands like the Berzerker absolutely). Powerviolence is just Hardcore with balls. Haha.
*side note- I saw Fuck the Facts live about 4 years ago at the Frequency in Madison, WI and they were absolutely terrible (even for Grind standards).
Did you forget Mortician? They are Deathgrind but are innovaters because they made the most heavy music of the late 80's.
This was excellent, folks! Loved the concept and thanks for reading my mini essay on Terrorizer....
+Slave To The Grind Looking forward to your documentary that was mentioned here. When will it be released and where can we get it?
this is way too long for a grindcore fan, this needs to be 80 seconds long.
Just for the sake of your show's reputation, there has to be a PART 2 to this... and do a way better job on the subject of grindcore. There is NO way AGATHOCLES (the longest running active grindcore band since 1985) was not even considered here.
Insect Warfare deserves a spot on that board.
Man they totally forgot the rest of the grindcore band: Righteous Pigs, S.O.B., Unseen Terror, Old Lady Drivers, Assück, Blood, Defecation, Blood Duster, Wormrot, Lock Up, Trap Them, NAILS, Impetigo, Cripple Bastards, Misery Index, Phobia, ACxDC, Nausea, P.L.F., Cretin, Wake, Exit-13, Magrudergrind, Birdflesh, Soilent Green, Antigama, Unholy Grave, Impaled, Exhumed, & Agathocles. For Goregrind: General Surgery, Regurgitate, Haemorrhage, Dead Infection, Last Day for Humanity, Squash Bowels, Machetazo, Disgorge (Mexico), & Viscera Infest. That's all the bands I know.
sam added discordance axis in the last minute of the stream because of my comment hehehe
So happy they added Rotten Sound!! \m/
Thank you Sam for adding Carcass back! We should collaborate on a new ending for Dexter! lol
"We need some opinions, not just we love those guys cuz their fucking brutal!" LMFAOOOO
Come on... what about Impetigo, Last Days Of Humanity and Macabre? Also there should have been no debate about AC. Ask anyone what genre AC are and they would say Grindcore. Also anyone who listens to metal or punk knows them, they are very well known.
Completely agree
Power violence was brought up but NAILS wasn't mentioned with it????????
+Justin Dittburner NAILS are a newer band with a lot of influences in their sound they don't quite stand out has having the quintessential power-violence sound that you'd find with bands like Infest, Crossed Out and Spazz
+Justin Dittburner
IMO Nails are on the fence between powerviolence and grindcore. I haven't heard them since their last album though but thats what I remember.
+Justin Dittburner Of course not. They aren't a powerviolence band.
Yeah they seem to call themselves Hardcore, from what the frontman says. They also play a lot in the TIHC festival.
Justin Dittburner nails are just some britts trying to sound like Cleveland hardcore
DO ONE FOR SLAM DEATH METAL.
I second this notion.
+Allidoiswynn93 There is no need for episodes about subgenres of subgenres.
+Allidoiswynn93 Pointless. Subgenres of subgenres don't need to be addressed.
+Robert "Behead those who insult SLAM." The prophet Slamammad slam be upon him.
+Robert
Slam is big enough and distinct enough to warrant an episode imo.
It would be nice to see Crust Punk / Crust as well. After all its the best example of punk combining metal / extreme metal, it INFLUENCED grindcore and it's active in todays underground extreme scene. Greetings from Romania!
Bands like Doom (UK crust punk band) would be great to see on the list.
The best? No, there is the NWOBHM movement, and of course thrash
wormrot???
31:10
They mentioned some essential bands but missed a few as well. Wormrot,Exit Wounds, Dropdead,Siege, Terrorizer,Spazz, Charles Bronson, etc.
How can you completely Ignore Agathocles or Assuck? Grind Is Protest!
It would be awesome to do a modern Black Metal episode seeing as you did the old school/2nd wave debate.
Agathocles
I think you should have mentioned Cryptic Slaughter, yes they are not a grindcore band, and only had 4 albums, but their influence here in the UK on Napalm Death and the rest of the early Grindcore bands is undeniable. Naplam Death still cover their song "lowlife"
make a deathgrind and goregrind episode!!
Hi Guys I am just watching this video now. Impetigo should be on that list
Terrorizer, has three albums, not one, however DOWNFALL was their best.
Let's pretend they had just one, the other two are kinda boring
And had actually broken up before it was recorded.
Terrorizer world downfall is almost better than almost all discography of most of these bands xD :v
Great episode. Wormrot and Antigama, anyone ?
when he said "rotten sound" i sprayed arizona RX all across my monitor and closed the video
Where's Ratos De Porão? Perhaps, the first grindcore band as they were crossing over punk and hardcore with the typical dirty belching guitar tones, blastbeats back in 1981/1982.
Just putting it out there, but Deathgrind is a genre. Aka, this is where you'd put Cattle Decapitation, Cephalic Carnage, Misery Index, and latter day Napalm Death (though they should obviously stay in Grindcore for their massive influence).
honestly I think it's worth it to add a death/grind category for bands like exhumed, cattle decap, cephalic etc.
Would love to see a thrash debate, Big 4 and beyond. Being arguably the genre with the greatest longevity, and most loyal fans, there is a ton to discuss here.
Damn I rushed home from work for this and just missed it!
I think there is a need for a second episode. I also can't believe Assuck wasn't discussed. In talk of of innovation and influence they were shockingly groundbreaking. They had two releases in 89, and they were onto the "Florida Death Metal" sound, while still sounding punk rock, with extremely socio-political lyrics
I don't like Grindcore, but I still love to watch ALL these episodes. I (mostly) love it when people are passionate and knowledgeable about the things they like.
a screamo episode would be amazing(such as pg99, orchid, and Annakarina )
gaaaay
Why is that? A lot of screamo is influenced by hardcore punk and black metal. Very lofi a lot of the times too. Listen to I Am Nietzsche by Orchid and tell me what you think.
pg. 99 rules.
My top 5 grindcore bands Carcass, Napalm Death, Terrorizer, General Surgery, Pig Destroyer
My first contact with this show/Channel, liked it a lot...Missed in this Grindcore debate completely SxOxBx (How could you guys miss this one ;-), essential) and the rather heavy influences of protogrinders SIEGE/HERESY/LÄRM... Oh yeah, put AxCx in a noisecore subgenre with bands like CSSO, Gore Beyond Necropsy, 7 Seconds of Nausea (essentially the early Nuclear Blast catalogue)...More on this topic please!!! Thanks!!!
Just met Kevin in the last couple days, he's worth a meet, friendly without an attitude.
This might have been the episode when I decided to change my user name to this (because of Sam mentioning possible banger staff members as commenters).
I know I am going to get lambasted for this but there should be an episode on deathcore. They did one for Mathcore which is a sub genre of metalcore, which also has its own episode. It's only fair. Give love to all the metal.
Damn I missed the live feed..
Nevermind the Napalm-Here's SORE THROAT!
Damn, too bad the audio sync is fucked on this video, would've love to see this. Doesn't get fixed at 7:00 either unfortunately.
LOCK HORNS: power violence band debate! please!
Love the channel, going through every video and really enjoying Lock Horns. Are you guys going to do a Stoner/Sludge Metal episode anytime soon?
Cattle Decap, glad they're on here, IMO, if you go back to their demos, early EP's, then on to "To Serve Man" "Humanure" and "Karma. Bloody. Karma" that all is pretty grindcore, and with "THF" "Monolith" and "Anthropecene Extinction" they fall more int a Deathgrind category, so i do believe they deserve to be up there
Carcass is one of the forefathers of Grindcore
I personally consider Grindcore as an extreme version of HC/Punk! From that point of view, Goregrind is imo more related to Death Metal (although lyrically). Also; Extreme Noise Terror is/was pure HC/Punk (they got their name from a Dutch HC band called 'Lärm' - one of the first European Straight Edge bands) & Bolt Thrower is a Death Metal band (although one of their primar influences was U.K.'s Sacrilege, one of the first Stenchcore/ Crust/ Crossover bands). Most imporant bands who started the Grindcore subgenre; U.K.'s (early)Napalm Death (off course), Belgiums Agathocles, Japan's S.O.B. & U.S. Terrorizer! I also refuse to label technical fast Death Metal bands as Grindcore...
Fear Of God (As Statues Fell, 1988) is a pretty seminal one. Not sure how influential. Carcass should be in there. Maybe Last Days of Humanity-as one of the longest running and best goregrind acts-too. Rather than Cephalic Carnage.
My Top 10 grindcore bands 10. Nasum 9. Pig destroyer 8. Rotten sound 7. Phobia 6. Terrorizor 5. Brutal truth 4. Céphalic carnage 3. répulsion 2. Extreme noise terror 1. Napalm death
Dude totally forgot siege wtf!!!!
Whats up with the audio? It's super off from the video! BANGER!!
can you please explain how Sebastian Bach came from L.A. and not Peterborough Ontario lol . thank you bud and ROCK ON MAN
Why's no one talking about old school grindcore like Heresy and unseen terror , seige etc.. those other bands wouldn't be around if it weren't for the early grindcore bands
Well, one thing special about Carcass is each of their album falls into different sub-genres. From grindcore → death-grind→ death metal → melodic death → death 'n' roll
A deathgrind, powerviolence and goregrind episode needs to happen
Do your homework on Powerviolence, please.
I have a strong advice for you guys after I've watched many episodes of Lock Horns. You guys should base on albums, not bands. What albums contribute to to one specific genre. 'Cause in a lot of cases, bands change style. That's where argument comes from.
Bolt Thrower went more death metal later in their career
At 25:30 Homicidal Retribution is a grind band and I'm part of it. Named it after the Dying Fetus song of course.
The guy giving the powerviolence description is WAY off, in my opinion. Powerviolence is just hardcore punk with a lot of time signature/tempo changes, with the addition of blast beats. Powerviolence shares a lot more in common with hardcore than metal, although a lot of bands do play a cross between grind and PV. I would never dare consider Spazz, Charles Bronson, Asshole Parade, or Infest as metal bands because their music mostly resembles hardcore punk in presentation, aesthetics, lyrical content, and sonic style.
I guessing he has man is the bastard in mind.
Rotten sound, Pig Destroyer, Dying fetus, Putrid pile, cephalic carnage and 50 other bands are playing at Full Terror Assault open air fest in August. i went last year it is the best time you will ever have and its BYOB.
What about anaal nathrakh
This is awesome, a total first and great idea, following the genres of metal intelligently
If you're talking about orginators of Grindcore, you can't not include O.L.D. and Fear Of God.
Yeah do a crust/stenchcore lock horns
I would say Assuck should make the list. Anticapital is a fantastic album.
Hello Banger, hello Sam and hello to the other guy who likes Punk!
I know that the following bands Im going to mention are not really Grindcore. but don't you think that without Hirax and Cryptic Slaughter the would be not grindcore?
Hello from Caracas.Venezuela.😂
Assück need to be on the list for sure. They mentioned them but never put them up. Awesome band
Totally agree (Re: Assuck)!
Agree about keeping Carcass . . .
Was lucky to get into them when they debuted stateside. The lyrics were disgusting, but that they matched the "music" with lyrics (what if rotting guts made music! D: ) was waaay ahead of its time. As Sam said, there was no such thing as "Gore-Grind" yet. They STARTED as a Grindcore band, Napalm Death and Carcass brought the brvtality to the world and all followed.
Carcass and Napalm should stand at the TOP.
The "Kids" should listen to the 1st 3 albums to hear why they are/were considered Grindcore.
They definitely could be in 3 categories. I'm all for Terrorizer as well! They are one of the 1st I heard on a early Thrash, Death and Grindcore Radio show from Claremont College KSPC called "Infernal Rage" by a student who was 18 from Seattle BEFORE the "Grunge" era. And Brujera as well.
Not that they were influential (maybe in Japan), I wanted to mention Japan's "S.O.B.", I believe was the 1st Japanese Grindcore band that I thought should've been mentioned in "Global Metal" (sadly the vocalist committed suicide in 1995).
Also "Godflesh" was another I heard when they debuted, they were included on the "Grindcrusher Compilation", but Hellbastard was included as well, who seem more Thrash (also see: "OLD/Old Lady Drivers" Grindcore meets Mr. Bungle).
And what about "Disharmonic Orchestra"? They were . . . different.
Sorry I missed the discussion :(.
part two needed!
I consider cattle décapitation are combination of extreme death metal, brutal death metal, progressive death metal and goregrind. Aborted and benighted are extreme death metal. Bolt thrower is death metal. It needs to have that chaotic and noisy sound to be grindcore in my opinion. The first few napalm death albums are my definition of grindcore
No love for Gadget? Not even a mention? 😢
Best grindcore song title ever? "God Sanctioned Ear-Rape" by Reconstructed Carcass
Is Macabre a folk metal vand, a grind core band or a folk grind band? we need a label for this band. and they have been around for a very long time so and have a devoted following so I believe they deserve to be put on a list
Awesome. Hail Bangers TV.
Hello Banger, hello Sam and hello to the other guy who likes Punk!
I know that the following bands Im going to mention are not really Grindcore. but don't you think that without Hirax and Cryptic Slaughter the would be not grindcore?
Hello from Caracas.Venezuela.😂😈
can we please talk post metal for one of these episodes?? relatively young genre with some heavy hitters.
I hate that I was simping for A.C. when I should have been supporting Discordance Axis. I've learned the error of my ways
Brujeria has grind aspects but not full on grindcore. Matando Gueros the title track didnt have anything remotely grind in that song but a song like Leyes Narcos is full on grind. I always saw them not a joke band but a gimmick band but brutal as fuck. The bass levels are fucking booming on Matando Gueros and Raza Odiada.
Pungent Stench should be on there too.
I was thinking that too! Pungent Stench was Death Metal later on but they surely had an impact!
Where would you put Macabre?
Can you fix the sync?
Where the fuck is S.O.B. from Japan?
+Hunter cz Yup..... influence on Napalm Death even...
put insect warfare please
I think Agathocles should be on the Grindcore list as one of the early bands to come out with that stuff...
beaten to death are my favourite grind band and they've actually developed their own genre or melodic grindcore or melo grind if you will
Look up the Asocial demo from 1981-82
Mostly actual grind bands but I’d say cephalic carnage is brutal death metal/deathgrind
Full of Hell! One of the best grindcore bands to emerge in the past 10 years.
Nah fam, full of hell is ok in its own ways but they aren't really grindcore. If you want grind then check out bands like deterioration, horrendous miscreation, p.l.f., and rot
Probably the best modern grind band, especially after their last album
I don't know how I feel about their definition of powerviolence. While a lot of newer pv bands have that big, sludgy sound, a lot of the older bands were more about being loud, violent, and abrasive without being too metal. Powerviolence songs are shorter, less structured, and have much more hardcore influence than grindcore songs. Infest is a great example of this, with a lot of their albums being the end-all-be-all of the genre for many fans.
Nice Board... only would add up The Berzerker.
If you do a part 2, make a cybergrind branch too. Genghis Tron needs to be in the pantheon!
You missed Impaled. They sorta lean more towards melo deathgrind or goregrind.
Please finish Doom Metal and do a Post Metal and Experimental Metal. Neurosis, Isis, maudlin of the Well, Kayo Dot etc. deserve discussions.
Yo Kevin that joke you made about knowing thrash metal bands penis sizes was fuckin fire, respect to you bro bro.
Haemorrhage are Goregrind Super-Stars
Siege...
Jimmy Miller more proto-powerviolence
Oh shut the fuck up. Siege were hardcore.
Chris MacDowell you seem upset, are you going to cry?
Siege were thrashcore/fastcore maybe even powerviolence, they definitly influence grind but weren't grind themselves
Siege was ment to be hardcore and was in the hardcore scene but was way faster than hardcore and no one knew how to name it. Proto power-violence, proto-grindcore.
You guys should do a post metal or atmospheric metal lock horns
would have been cool to see discussion about electrogrind, since it is bleeding over a lot into gore/prono these days.
the berzerker are criminally underrated
The Locust? Head Wound City? Holy Molar? Margrudergrind? Full of Hell?
Cattle Decapitation is Deathgrind.
Missing Agathocles, Terrorizer, Fear of God, Rot, Sore Throat...