I have to admit, I really like Steve and Luka as a pair of content producers. They riff of each other quite well, and actually get into the interesting discussions that make these kinds of battle reports worth watching.
I know your limited by models available to the studio but you could really use some skink screens to help protect against these long Bomb charges / alpha strikes. They are also much better bait lol. And if your really concerned with no rend. The skink star priest with his mortal wound stick could be what your looking for, especially on units with lots of attacks like rippers and knights. Which you obviously have/like. Also kroak is a slann only better in almost every way (no relic/trait) but if the old blood is your general anyway those extra points are totally worth it. If the model is available give it a try, that 4++ and another possible 6++ make him very resilient. Love the lizards, keep up the good work.
At 41 minutes, Steve forgot about the Carnosaur riders having the new "Terror" ability that affects enemy units on battleshock tests. Also, this list is good but definitely needs some point juggling to afford a bastiladon' and a couple salamanders. Seraphon melee always needs that ranged backup IMO.
Regarding what couls've been done differently I think the answer would've been to have a screen. Now this is something you have to take into consideration while building the army and to have units designed to die.
the feeling i get from the coalesced from watching you play them repeatedly is that you want to try to engage your opponent with 1 big unit at a time so that you can stack all your big buffs onto that unit and thus make each of your units become very efficient datasheets because of the buffs you were able to stack on them.
Great work, in this list with the way it hurts for command points, i think the scar vet on cold one is the better option. That gives room to bring a star priest. Giving a CP on a 5+ , mortals on 6 to hit, and either reroll 1’s to hit or ignore battleshock.
Love the Seraphon paint scheme. Any up close photos of the Saurus anywhere? Separately, if anyone knows a good place to look at different Saurus colour schemes I’d love to know,
Steve you rly need to try things like skunk Starpriests and skink Starseers they are very good at buffing like 3d6 charges add1 to saves or subtract 1 from enemy saves and mortal wounds in addition is great. They also can give extra command points aswell.
47:30 You get bonus +1 to wound rolls with the Gauntlet against Chaos Daemons! You rolled the # of attacks wrong though... so who KNOWS what would've happened
@MWG Studios The rules you set up a Realmshaper Engine before any other terrain. Stick it an inch away from the edge of your deployment zone, deploy the Slann inside and start pumping out those mortals. Put your guard in front to pass off damage and soak charges, anything that does charge you will take D3 mortals on a 2+ from being close to the Engine.
steve messed up by no keeping track of all of his command ability ranges and feel no pain auras . and he was too far up . if he did both of these he would of been better prepared
Maybe this knight heavy list would be better with two smaller groups of knights that cycle charge one charging each turn while the other falls back that way you would always be getting the extra stuff for the spears and the extra to hit without spending command points. I dont have the math in front of me to see if a eisier hit half as strong every turn would be better than one massive easy hit and then being useless after that. Calvary is about the charge
Hey Steve, I know you like the guard but the saurus warriors and guards have the same offensive characteristics. Saurus warriors with spears actually outdamage them both and are cheaper too. Lastly the saurus oldbloods spear explodes on 6s, you should probably have killed that thirster. You were really unlucky tho. Cheers
Steve, check out the Trogladon for the starborne. They can also generate summoning points and overall have gotten a little better. I'm bringing them in my thunder lizards too for an extra spell and the wounds are great with the new incandescent retricies! Also greatly improved are the salamanders, essentially 6 wounds and 4 great ranged attacks each.
It seems like garrisoning should grant better effects on the garrisoned unit to account for them being in side a building and being able to fight from the door or something...
Hello good afternoon. Could you explain how outrageous carnage of the bloodthirsther of insensate rage works? it makes a maximum of 4 mortals even if it has three 6, or else it would make 4 mortals for every 6. thank you very much !!
Watching the batrep and just got my battletome finally (thx Corona) so orienting a bit still. I saw you use your Oldblood on Carnosaur give out a Command Ability to reroll saves of 1 and reroll hits of 1, I can't for the life of me find where you get that from. I know it's a command ability because you rolled the 4+ to get it back but I'm just lost here :) Please shed some light on it?
My IJs would be in a big trouble against coalesce, esp. if you mix in some shooting. I stilI like the concept, that this army might not be the best overall, but is a hard counter against some of the strongest (Ogor, Fyres., IJ, maybe even against flamer heavy Tzeentch) lists.
Are you guys going to be pushing out more videos over these next few weeks/months? There's a captive audience that would really appreciate it especially since we can't get together and smash armies.
I think splitting up the ripperdactyls would have been a good move. Could send them off to harass the support characters, run up the flanks and swing behind the enemy, they may be a little tough but they probably won't chew through them on their own. As for the other stuff, lacking any rend more than -1 is an issue. I think taking 30 saurus rather than 20 guard and use the extra points for salamanders would be good. Slann is expensive and may be worth replacing him and the astrolith with sunblood and skink support characters
With so many attacks on the Seraphon list I was kinda shocked we didn't see any Starpriest, also an EOTG in the middle would have been amazing. Ty for the batrep!!
Seraphon were my first WH army and are still my favorite. I own enough models to run either coalesced or starborne and I will play them both ways. I do think they made the saurus and dinos more viable. However, I think the terrain feature was horribly designed and I still think skinks and casters is still the stronger version of the army. You get a little less summoning that before the new book came out but you gain much stronger magic. I think if you play coalesced your magic is weaker, you give up your crucial teleport ability, and you are unable to summon units outside of the EOTG. I still love them I just think you gimp yourself in order to use the models that we like more in the army. Just my opinion.
Ive been putting together my seraphon start collecting and in the saurus page it says that there s a spell that summons a unit of saurus (10 models) and when u roll 11 or higher 20 models. Havent seen it in any game with lizards, is it bad or? Im curious Very fun game 👊🏻💪🏻
That's a very old rule that was taken out in (I think) General's Handbook 1. The current way the Seraphon summon is, as of the new Battletome, by choosing the Starborne sub-faction, and then gaining by Celestial Conjuration points by having a Slann or Skink Starseer general, having an Astrolith Bearer, and by giving up spells on Slann and Skink Oracles. Then they spend the CCPs on new units in the Hero phase.
@@dailyrockpaperscissors4417 you don't really need the pyramid. It just makes him ungodly tanky for a "caster". Kroak himself is bordering on busted powerful. With decent rolls, he can seriously wound much of your hero structure first turn. (Other Slaan also make it near impossible for you to cast anything in response) Play against a half competent pilot and you'll see.
Dear miniwargaming, I just started building a seraphon army, I have the starter set + skink starpriest and just ordered the pteranodons + skinks, any hints on what to get next??
@@tonylusardi5767 I really think that's a good choise but are they only a magic user or do they do damage outside of the magic phase, (ps still waiting for my Skinks and terradons T-T
@@darkhardline alone, a Slann is probably the most powerful unit in the Seraphon army. They're a MASSIVE 3 spells/unbinds a turn. They grant you the ability to roll 2 dice in the hero phase and each 4+ gives a command point. And their starlight command ability is clutch a lot of the time in a game where movement is king.
Just so you know when you garrison the terrain piece it's 20 wounds or less not models. GARRISON A Realmshaper Engine can be garrisoned. The models making up the garrison of a Realmshaper Engine must have a combined Wounds characteristic of 20 or less (if this would preclude all of the models in a unit from garrisoning the Realmshaper Engine, then the unit cannot garrison the Realmshaper Engine).
so a lot of this game came down to some not great rolling on steve's part during his second turn, but on the other hand a lot of this game going so terribly for the seraphon comes down to the fact that he got double turned. honestely i know some people swear by the double turn mechanic in balancing games. however, the thing is with AOS, since it has such a heavy melee focus, going second is actually better than going first. because, whoever goes second is the one who gets to pick the engagements and with the double turn that just allows complete control of the opening 2 turns of engagement. when it comes down to it honestly the double turn is a mechanic designed to help the player who went second not first, so whether it does more help or harm is determined by whether or not the player who goes second is at a disadvantage. personally i see the person going second most often having the advantage unless their opponent is running a list that has the possibility to alpha strike which i don't really see a lot of in AOS.
I'm sorry... but Luka at the end saying, "We wanted to see if they could handle this... they obviously can't" was beyond. This game had a number of strikes going against the Seraphon. These games happen. If Steve had maximized the effectiveness of his rules (new book... we get it) and Luka hadn't made all of those armor saves AND get the double turn, it would've been a different game. Play 6 games of these lists against eachother and see how the averages are before being so glib.
Yea, this video was cringey. That's probably one of the worst lists Steve could have made vs a Khorne army. He also brought an overpriced, terrible cav unit, which was totally unnecessary vs Khorne. More importantly, he brought no shooting, which is one of the best things Seraphon does (one of the best shooting armies in the game in fact). Which would have wrecked that Khorne build.
@@BBlueu2 Bastilodon... Camo Skinks... Terradon Riders... Salamanders. These are pretty much auto includes in my Army... although I love the extra bonuses Coalesced give to Saurus. So tempting to load up on the bigger lizards since they looks so much cooler
Don't wanna get down about the seraphon, but two carasaur dead in a bilnk of an eye. A Slann dead by casting. Guard dead to a unit worth half their points. They are nerfed beyond any use in my opinion. I hope a really good build is found, but sadly looks like the lizards are usless.
Come on but poor Stave, he hit a double turn and he threw bad dice especially the double eight with the slaan! in the end the list is not bad but the shots he made were embarrassing! I hope the next time will be better for him! hello guys and keep it up you are great.
Oof. This was hard to watch. I like the coalesced, but I feel like they are mediocre at best which is pretty depressing. Really hope they get some buffs in an FAQ or a white dwarfe
Not a fan of coalesced global -1 damage. Like you guys said, it's a hard counter to some other factions, and hard counters aren't fun. It's why AoS has been such a fun game until recently, there are rarely matchups that seem like foregone conclusions.
Double turn is the reason i am never going to play AoS along whit a few of my friends there are a lot of people who agree whit me on this that it just feels so bad to loose becose of the roll of a single dice that you could do nothing about
Honestly, after playing quite a few new games where there's no set turn order, saying you lost just because of a double turn is pretty much just and excuse for poor dice, poor list building, or poor choices.
except its a game based on objective control. you go i go every time would result in games being decided from turn 2 due to certain armies deployments. itd be boring as fuck
I was actually thinking something similar. First, that it seems "too good", but as I thought about it, I realized I wasn't familiar enough with AoS to really judge how it balances out with the rest of the army and the game in general. It seems that getting a 4+ more then four times in a row is highly unlikely, meaning that the "use a bunch of command point buffs in one turn" combo that was pulled off is actually very unlikely.
Steve and the new seraphon are a perfect fit for new sigmar battle reps! maybe seeing them against luca's bonereapers, or Vito's slaaanesh would be fresh to see!
@@imalu5757 well, i personally am polishing my kharadron overlords army from last year and frankly nobody seems to have 4 squads of thunderers with every special weapon like i do, or a massive squad of 12 skywardens with 4 volley guns, if i could see more battles of KO vs bonereaper, KO vs seraphan, KO vs new slaves to darkness, KO (more boots on the ground) vs Gitz, KO vs Nurgle. that is what i truely wanna see, but most battles use the units i always see, so just letting the guys know, all the sigmar teams that they know best should start cranking out new vids, with the new endless spell models and terrain features, no more cities of sigmar or old armies that havent gotten a recent update and new models. just wanting to inspire some future battles, my favorite battles Steve used to do was his Idoneth Deepkin vs Matt's stormcast and Steve plays beasts of chaos extremely well but im ready to see some other sigmar players dish out some big plays without forgetting important abilities cause it seems like we all do better focusing on 1 or 2 armies, but i know you guys are showcasing all these nicely painted armies, but you can get alot more love if you do your best played sigmar armies agaisnt eachother, or 2 v 2 sigmar battles would be fun, using all those multipliers and rerolls that make these games so notorious
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I have to admit, I really like Steve and Luka as a pair of content producers.
They riff of each other quite well, and actually get into the interesting discussions that make these kinds of battle reports worth watching.
Steve’s my favourite
They could do a buddy cop movie they have such good chemistry, love to see them paired up
@@bombarded15 - Don't give Dave any ideas! Wait no, I would totally watch that! Give him more ideas!
oh man when he rolled two 8s in a row hahahhaha. everytime i watch a report with Steve in it, it seems like hr has the most entertaining rolls.
I know your limited by models available to the studio but you could really use some skink screens to help protect against these long Bomb charges / alpha strikes. They are also much better bait lol.
And if your really concerned with no rend. The skink star priest with his mortal wound stick could be what your looking for, especially on units with lots of attacks like rippers and knights. Which you obviously have/like.
Also kroak is a slann only better in almost every way (no relic/trait) but if the old blood is your general anyway those extra points are totally worth it. If the model is available give it a try, that 4++ and another possible 6++ make him very resilient.
Love the lizards, keep up the good work.
Nice to see Steve enjoying his warhammer again with this release! Haven’t seen him this enthusiastic in videos for a looooong while 😊
Make sure to keep the Slann within 3 inches of the Saurus Guard for their "Selfless Protector" rule.
At 41 minutes, Steve forgot about the Carnosaur riders having the new "Terror" ability that affects enemy units on battleshock tests. Also, this list is good but definitely needs some point juggling to afford a bastiladon' and a couple salamanders. Seraphon melee always needs that ranged backup IMO.
48:53 Steve forgot that the Sunstone Spear does two hits on rolls of six to hit.
Awesome! The first MWG batt rep I ever watched was seraphon vs Khorne
Regarding what couls've been done differently I think the answer would've been to have a screen. Now this is something you have to take into consideration while building the army and to have units designed to die.
the feeling i get from the coalesced from watching you play them repeatedly is that you want to try to engage your opponent with 1 big unit at a time so that you can stack all your big buffs onto that unit and thus make each of your units become very efficient datasheets because of the buffs you were able to stack on them.
Great work, in this list with the way it hurts for command points, i think the scar vet on cold one is the better option. That gives room to bring a star priest. Giving a CP on a 5+ , mortals on 6 to hit, and either reroll 1’s to hit or ignore battleshock.
The first episode I saw, I honestly thought it was some old adult swim cartoon I somehow missed. Now I realize it's so much better.
Cant believe that slan toasted himself on the skulls xD
Love the Seraphon paint scheme. Any up close photos of the Saurus anywhere?
Separately, if anyone knows a good place to look at different Saurus colour schemes I’d love to know,
"Oh I wish, I wish, I hadn't pick that list." (sneezes) All the dino army dies. "Oh the Slann's are gonna make me pay for this one."
thanks for another seraphon video! :-)
Steve you rly need to try things like skunk Starpriests and skink Starseers they are very good at buffing like 3d6 charges add1 to saves or subtract 1 from enemy saves and mortal wounds in addition is great. They also can give extra command points aswell.
47:30 You get bonus +1 to wound rolls with the Gauntlet against Chaos Daemons! You rolled the # of attacks wrong though... so who KNOWS what would've happened
@MWG Studios The rules you set up a Realmshaper Engine before any other terrain. Stick it an inch away from the edge of your deployment zone, deploy the Slann inside and start pumping out those mortals. Put your guard in front to pass off damage and soak charges, anything that does charge you will take D3 mortals on a 2+ from being close to the Engine.
Dude, the moment you set it up u dont know where ur deployment zone is
Great battle report guys! Don't give up on the Seraphon Steve!
nice seraphon! keep em coming!
Ripperdactyls explode 6s on their jaws, and pop toads in any combat phase. Enjoyed the video!!
steve messed up by no keeping track of all of his command ability ranges and feel no pain auras . and he was too far up . if he did both of these he would of been better prepared
Maybe this knight heavy list would be better with two smaller groups of knights that cycle charge one charging each turn while the other falls back that way you would always be getting the extra stuff for the spears and the extra to hit without spending command points. I dont have the math in front of me to see if a eisier hit half as strong every turn would be better than one massive easy hit and then being useless after that. Calvary is about the charge
Hey Steve, I know you like the guard but the saurus warriors and guards have the same offensive characteristics. Saurus warriors with spears actually outdamage them both and are cheaper too.
Lastly the saurus oldbloods spear explodes on 6s, you should probably have killed that thirster. You were really unlucky tho. Cheers
Love your bat reps, long time fan. Really excited about the new dino book, but also gotta give props to Luka's shirt game.
29:27 Steve, come on buddy, that dice was stuck on a model's base. That's a potato.
love the new seraphon.
I love the new models ...
Surprised havent seen saurus sunblood with that tasty +1 to wound CA yet
Steve, check out the Trogladon for the starborne. They can also generate summoning points and overall have gotten a little better. I'm bringing them in my thunder lizards too for an extra spell and the wounds are great with the new incandescent retricies! Also greatly improved are the salamanders, essentially 6 wounds and 4 great ranged attacks each.
Thank god I've been waiting for these
Divide up the ripperdactyls and use them as screens who could fly out of the way when you need them to.
It seems like garrisoning should grant better effects on the garrisoned unit to account for them being in side a building and being able to fight from the door or something...
Hello good afternoon. Could you explain how outrageous carnage of the bloodthirsther of insensate rage works? it makes a maximum of 4 mortals even if it has three 6, or else it would make 4 mortals for every 6. thank you very much !!
so for every unmodified 6 to wound that you roll for his attacks every enemy unit with 8 inches of the target unit suffers 4 mortal wounds.
Enjoyed the report also I know u play tons of armies luka but the tail for the skullreapers is d3 attacks but I enjoyed the batrep alot!
Nice party! What camera do you use for film the video?
Watching the batrep and just got my battletome finally (thx Corona) so orienting a bit still. I saw you use your Oldblood on Carnosaur give out a Command Ability to reroll saves of 1 and reroll hits of 1, I can't for the life of me find where you get that from. I know it's a command ability because you rolled the 4+ to get it back but I'm just lost here :) Please shed some light on it?
My IJs would be in a big trouble against coalesce, esp. if you mix in some shooting. I stilI like the concept, that this army might not be the best overall, but is a hard counter against some of the strongest (Ogor, Fyres., IJ, maybe even against flamer heavy Tzeentch) lists.
Dread Saurian and Kroak when?
Chief on stegadon is a better beatstick than the carnosaur. Also, might want to look into a battalion so you can nab the aetherquartz brooch
WTH lol, the bleeding icon did work! WOW! I though it is impossible, OMG
Blood Boil doesn't require LoS btw. Just a unit within 16".
Are you guys going to be pushing out more videos over these next few weeks/months? There's a captive audience that would really appreciate it especially since we can't get together and smash armies.
Why no batallion and Aetherquatz Brooch in Koatls Claw, seems like a no-brainer to me
I think splitting up the ripperdactyls would have been a good move. Could send them off to harass the support characters, run up the flanks and swing behind the enemy, they may be a little tough but they probably won't chew through them on their own.
As for the other stuff, lacking any rend more than -1 is an issue. I think taking 30 saurus rather than 20 guard and use the extra points for salamanders would be good. Slann is expensive and may be worth replacing him and the astrolith with sunblood and skink support characters
nice video thanks.
please do a triumph and treachery Battle Report
With so many attacks on the Seraphon list I was kinda shocked we didn't see any Starpriest, also an EOTG in the middle would have been amazing. Ty for the batrep!!
Engine of the gods is horrible.
I just recently got into 40k and don't know what to do
What do you mean?
Get daemons and call it a day
@@nathanieleck1023 I agree. Buy Khorn daemons or suffer from my hand.
Buy daemons, they cross-play. As does a lot of the disciples of tzeentch stuff, much of which is thousand sons in 40k
I honestly really don't like rolling off at the beginning of each battle round. The moment Khorne had a double turn, the Seraphon were tabled.
Where did the pillars come from?
Anyone noticed the phyrexian poison counter on his arm?
This is what I like to see, a good ol slugfest
Would never have tried that second spell with the Slann. This one is on him. Then again, what did he have to lose?
Seraphon were my first WH army and are still my favorite. I own enough models to run either coalesced or starborne and I will play them both ways. I do think they made the saurus and dinos more viable. However, I think the terrain feature was horribly designed and I still think skinks and casters is still the stronger version of the army. You get a little less summoning that before the new book came out but you gain much stronger magic. I think if you play coalesced your magic is weaker, you give up your crucial teleport ability, and you are unable to summon units outside of the EOTG. I still love them I just think you gimp yourself in order to use the models that we like more in the army. Just my opinion.
the Seraphon are a deathstar army even in Total war warhammer 2 lol
Are you not able to unbind the khorne endless spells? Surprised that wasn't attempted first with +3 to it
They aren't necessarily spells, they're more like prayers so can't be dispelled like other endless spells
Remember the priest don’t need los for blood boil.
Ive been putting together my seraphon start collecting and in the saurus page it says that there s a spell that summons a unit of saurus (10 models) and when u roll 11 or higher 20 models. Havent seen it in any game with lizards, is it bad or? Im curious
Very fun game 👊🏻💪🏻
That's a very old rule that was taken out in (I think) General's Handbook 1. The current way the Seraphon summon is, as of the new Battletome, by choosing the Starborne sub-faction, and then gaining by Celestial Conjuration points by having a Slann or Skink Starseer general, having an Astrolith Bearer, and by giving up spells on Slann and Skink Oracles. Then they spend the CCPs on new units in the Hero phase.
@@RonnocFroop thanks!
Does the kroxigors buff work around bastiladons?
@Joe Appleby Tyvm!
Starborn Comet spam Kroak garrisoned in the pyramid is a disgusting mortal wound monster.
Can’t rely on that because you have to place the pyramid before rolling to chose sides.
@@dailyrockpaperscissors4417 you don't really need the pyramid. It just makes him ungodly tanky for a "caster".
Kroak himself is bordering on busted powerful. With decent rolls, he can seriously wound much of your hero structure first turn. (Other Slaan also make it near impossible for you to cast anything in response)
Play against a half competent pilot and you'll see.
Dear miniwargaming, I just started building a seraphon army, I have the starter set + skink starpriest and just ordered the pteranodons + skinks, any hints on what to get next??
Find a unit that you really like and buy it, and then build an army around it to make it work.
Get a Slann DEFINITELY
@@tonylusardi5767 I really think that's a good choise but are they only a magic user or do they do damage outside of the magic phase, (ps still waiting for my Skinks and terradons T-T
@@darkhardline alone, a Slann is probably the most powerful unit in the Seraphon army. They're a MASSIVE 3 spells/unbinds a turn. They grant you the ability to roll 2 dice in the hero phase and each 4+ gives a command point. And their starlight command ability is clutch a lot of the time in a game where movement is king.
Realmshaper really needs an FAQ...in it's current incarnation it is not usable
Why does everybody suspect seraphon has no chance vs OBR? I freaking wrecked them them when i played vs them, just take the right models...
Just so you know when you garrison the terrain piece it's 20 wounds or less not models.
GARRISON
A Realmshaper Engine can be
garrisoned. The models making
up the garrison of a Realmshaper
Engine must have a combined
Wounds characteristic of 20 or less
(if this would preclude all of the
models in a unit from garrisoning
the Realmshaper Engine, then
the unit cannot garrison the
Realmshaper Engine).
so a lot of this game came down to some not great rolling on steve's part during his second turn, but on the other hand a lot of this game going so terribly for the seraphon comes down to the fact that he got double turned.
honestely i know some people swear by the double turn mechanic in balancing games. however, the thing is with AOS, since it has such a heavy melee focus, going second is actually better than going first. because, whoever goes second is the one who gets to pick the engagements and with the double turn that just allows complete control of the opening 2 turns of engagement.
when it comes down to it honestly the double turn is a mechanic designed to help the player who went second not first, so whether it does more help or harm is determined by whether or not the player who goes second is at a disadvantage. personally i see the person going second most often having the advantage unless their opponent is running a list that has the possibility to alpha strike which i don't really see a lot of in AOS.
I just love these khorn warriors.
So I give a like :D
At 17:20, luka could stop it with an 8
Joe Appleby luka has the trait with the bloodthirster to unbind a spell. If Luka rolls a natural 8, the spell is inbound and takes mortal wounds
Joe Appleby see 5:47. Luka explains it
There should be a slaan that runs around and knows jujitsu and beats up other units with his bare hands
I'm sorry... but Luka at the end saying, "We wanted to see if they could handle this... they obviously can't" was beyond. This game had a number of strikes going against the Seraphon. These games happen. If Steve had maximized the effectiveness of his rules (new book... we get it) and Luka hadn't made all of those armor saves AND get the double turn, it would've been a different game. Play 6 games of these lists against eachother and see how the averages are before being so glib.
Yea, this video was cringey. That's probably one of the worst lists Steve could have made vs a Khorne army.
He also brought an overpriced, terrible cav unit, which was totally unnecessary vs Khorne. More importantly, he brought no shooting, which is one of the best things Seraphon does (one of the best shooting armies in the game in fact). Which would have wrecked that Khorne build.
@@BBlueu2 Bastilodon... Camo Skinks... Terradon Riders... Salamanders. These are pretty much auto includes in my Army... although I love the extra bonuses Coalesced give to Saurus. So tempting to load up on the bigger lizards since they looks so much cooler
Slann dieing from spell and them skull so nice
MOAR SERAPHON!!!! Yeesssssssssss
This was nutty
Who needs sleep right!
КРОВИ КРОВАВОМУ БОГУ(blood for the blood God)
NEW SERAPHON BOIS
A single list thats in no way indicative of the army but is really annoying and pretty strong? As a tau player, I absolutely understand.
Your big Dinos reduce opponent's bravery by 1.....Terror
Please please please get Duncan Rhodes for a batrep
Steve. Salamanders.
Khorne equals shooting time Steve.. There are some pretty crazy combos in this battletome, let's see some lizard madness already
bloodsecrator is on wrong size base
Actually I had mine on a 40mm also. 32mm is on the aos chart.
@@about99ninjas56 also the khorne list is 2010pts .... Mwg everyone!
The saurus are due a new model, they look so dated.
Love these batreps. The drinking game for when they get rules wrong and moan about aos is great....
Ah, dice games.....
Luka's demeanor at the table would make me never want to play Tabletop games again. His type are why I rarely play with randoms from the game store
Don't wanna get down about the seraphon, but two carasaur dead in a bilnk of an eye. A Slann dead by casting. Guard dead to a unit worth half their points.
They are nerfed beyond any use in my opinion. I hope a really good build is found, but sadly looks like the lizards are usless.
You do realize that this was a really terrible build to bring vs Khorne, right? Lots of wasted points into the wrong units.
Come on but poor Stave, he hit a double turn and he threw bad dice especially the double eight with the slaan! in the end the list is not bad but the shots he made were embarrassing! I hope the next time will be better for him! hello guys and keep it up you are great.
Steve cant roll for shit in this one
Oof. This was hard to watch. I like the coalesced, but I feel like they are mediocre at best which is pretty depressing. Really hope they get some buffs in an FAQ or a white dwarfe
Not a fan of coalesced global -1 damage. Like you guys said, it's a hard counter to some other factions, and hard counters aren't fun. It's why AoS has been such a fun game until recently, there are rarely matchups that seem like foregone conclusions.
Double turn is the reason i am never going to play AoS along whit a few of my friends there are a lot of people who agree whit me on this that it just feels so bad to loose becose of the roll of a single dice that you could do nothing about
Honestly, after playing quite a few new games where there's no set turn order, saying you lost just because of a double turn is pretty much just and excuse for poor dice, poor list building, or poor choices.
You can always play without it! Or alternate activation!
except its a game based on objective control. you go i go every time would result in games being decided from turn 2 due to certain armies deployments. itd be boring as fuck
They need to nerf that 4+ command point
Yeah just in case this crap, nerfed to the ground codex get a single good thing. Better remove it fast
I was actually thinking something similar. First, that it seems "too good", but as I thought about it, I realized I wasn't familiar enough with AoS to really judge how it balances out with the rest of the army and the game in general.
It seems that getting a 4+ more then four times in a row is highly unlikely, meaning that the "use a bunch of command point buffs in one turn" combo that was pulled off is actually very unlikely.
Steve and the new seraphon are a perfect fit for new sigmar battle reps! maybe seeing them against luca's bonereapers, or Vito's slaaanesh would be fresh to see!
board flow we saw them against bonereapers last week. Didn’t go well
@@imalu5757 well, i personally am polishing my kharadron overlords army from last year and frankly nobody seems to have 4 squads of thunderers with every special weapon like i do, or a massive squad of 12 skywardens with 4 volley guns, if i could see more battles of KO vs bonereaper, KO vs seraphan, KO vs new slaves to darkness, KO (more boots on the ground) vs Gitz, KO vs Nurgle. that is what i truely wanna see, but most battles use the units i always see, so just letting the guys know, all the sigmar teams that they know best should start cranking out new vids, with the new endless spell models and terrain features, no more cities of sigmar or old armies that havent gotten a recent update and new models. just wanting to inspire some future battles, my favorite battles Steve used to do was his Idoneth Deepkin vs Matt's stormcast and Steve plays beasts of chaos extremely well but im ready to see some other sigmar players dish out some big plays without forgetting important abilities cause it seems like we all do better focusing on 1 or 2 armies, but i know you guys are showcasing all these nicely painted armies, but you can get alot more love if you do your best played sigmar armies agaisnt eachother, or 2 v 2 sigmar battles would be fun, using all those multipliers and rerolls that make these games so notorious
maybe the upcoming Lumineth high elves could be the calling card Steve has been looking for in sigmar. O_O
I hate the double turn mechanic so much
Great report, double turn sucks, hope it's removed in 3rd ed, Also Steve is starting to look like Tank Abbot....