World's Most Powerful Pancake Slayer Tesla Coil? (Melts Copper)
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A simpler cousin of the Tesla Coil, is the Slayer Exciter. It's an incredibly simple circuit, that makes thousands of volts, and can produce spectacular results. But this one, is a bit different! I couldn't find a flat, pancake style slayer anywhere - so this was my attempt at making one of the first on RUclips. I was blown away by the results. #PlasmaNation #TeslaCoil #Maker
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pancake coil nice and compact I love it now I need to build one with a 10;1000turn insulated that can handle 30-200kv 1.6kw input I need to get a replacement voltage booster for my zvs I sadly blew it out years ago be for i got into fusion. ill have to do spark gapped with my hv supply I have then see how my plasma chamber handles it. now x-ray glasses on, welding mask down, lead /aluminum positive charge shield up. battery charged, materials gathering, rebuilding capacitor's, coiling wire.......................................................ugh , installing prototype core Fxsit, vacuum system on, battery charged ,high voltage supply on, charge capacitors, prepping fuel intake, filtration system on, fuel system on, shield on, lights off, system is all green....3..2...1.....
man I cant wait to see that beautiful fusion glow again but with more power ok I need to get back to winding this coil.. ugh I wont get to see full output till I get the voltage booster replaced.
Electricity and Pancakes. Love it!
The best! Almost as epic as a cigarette bouquet....some might say....
@@PlasmaChannel yes I saw that video
@@PlasmaChannel yes I saw that video
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That's freaking awesome man! Never seen anything quite like that - you're very creative 👌 That secondary looks challenging to wind. Looking forward to attempting this build!
Nigel, I appreciate that. Yeah winding the secondary wasn’t TOO hard... use a thin washer in the middle of the two discs to space the secondary... and attach the wire to the bolt in the middle, then wind on a drill. First attempt though I broke the wire...
@@PlasmaChannel how many turns on secondary and primary?
Will you make a video how to make this?
@@phenethylamine21 he kinda did.
I love your channel, because I REALLY started understanding electronics when I built my first tesla coil... So I like arcs and sparks, and this is the perfect place to watch them. Thanks for all your project!!
Very cool! Yeah, a tesla coil is what got me into electronics as well. Cheers!
The concept and the design is really good . Thanks Jay !
Thank you, I appreciate that.
This suits a great purpose I need for the project I reached out to you about.
Your videos look like world-class professional ads. I estimate that you work as an actor in an advertising agency. But you have the ability to do a complete turnkey advertising. Thank you for not wasting visitors time. Compared to many other technical channels.
Hi Ken, I appreciate your compliments. Nope, don’t work in advertising. I spent several years as a television actor though, so, always seeing how professional camera shots look... I now always strive to mimic professional quality with my own videos. My goal is to make me videos even more professional and entertaining in time.
@@PlasmaChannel Everything is good enough as it is at the same time. All I would recommend: Try to make smaller gestures and reduce the intensity of acting. But I only estimate by 20%. It's just my feeling and just the opinion of one person. Nothing more.
Ken Therapy thanks for the input, really. Means a lot. I do struggle with too many hand gestures, admittedly. Been trying to reduce it slightly!
@@PlasmaChannel Thanks for agreeing. Classical theater requires greater gestures and expressive facial facial expression. But technical video, moreover, in high quality not. Because your face can be zoomed in as you need. This is not possible on the theater boards. All you need is a soft gentle face game. The same applies to hand and body language. You are similar man a like the Mentalist serial. You can try his type of actering.
it's so cool. can't wait for the next video
I was having trouble with this circuit and this video helped clear it up a little bit. I started over,and it works!
Hi do you have the circuit diagram?
@vasundarasrinivasan4018 the diagram is in the video. Cheers
Nice design, and your build quality is beautiful as always!
Thank you very much! I'm building a much, MUCH larger one now!
@@PlasmaChannel hope to see that as a project.
I'd just been looking at the drsstc pcb tesla but due to self isolation can't get out to make one. I'd never thought about just winding it like this rather than etching the coils on pcb. I salute you good sir!
Hi Stuart - thanks for the kind words. The winding was very tricky, but worked out well! All about the drill.
Love u dude !!!!!!!
Excited all the time to see new videos!!!
More to come! I really appreciate your support.
This is absolutely beautiful device ,you always design cool stuff ,and video is looking so cool 💜💜💜💜
Hi Mohsen, thank you so much.
Finally I found a good RUclips chanel
I’d love to see more SSTC videos! I’ve been getting into Tesla coils recently and have made 3 simple SGTCs, maybe do a video on a simple musical coil? Anyways, your content is great, no matter what it is, have a good one!
Coming soon! And thank you so much for your kind words. I'm a big fan of spark gap coils......but I do like the clean nature of the solid state form!
Wow super cool idea to make the secondary coil pancake type💯💯
You are king of creativity...
One day you will sure built something that will shock the world...🔥🔥🔥
Maybe one day! I have some big builds planned.
You’re a very good presenter, I’m surprised you’re into something so specific, but it’s great 👍
Your video was awsome . Hope to see more of your ideas 😉
More to come! Thanks
This is a great idea, it's perfect for a project I want to do. But must build my first Tesla coil first, am a beginner. Thanks and cheers
Cool stuff 😁
Love your videos my friend.
Once again a great video👍🏼
Appreciate that, thanks!
Great to see you back with more wonderful stuff. We just love high voltage. Boys dangerous toys lol. Love your work.
Thanks Michael!
This looks awesome!!!! i wanna try building it.
Go for it!
Brilliant video , lovely little coil. A build video would be greatly appreciated, especially showing how that coil was would.
Hi FG, thanks for the compliments. I didnt do a build because i'm getting a little tired of people stealing my build ideas, and selling them for profit.
Plasma Channel very true. Great build anyway.
@@PlasmaChannel **lets the terrorists win**
The real question is how you wind?
Creating a jig is usually the easiest way.
Created a jig on a drill. Was very difficult and the first time my jig failed.....and 400 feet of wire unravelled and tangled. Second time came out great!
@@PlasmaChannel very nice thanks for answer
@@PlasmaChannel try stacking multiple layers, that will also allow you to try multiple primaries (between the layers, wired in parallel)
@@mykulpierce Current goes outward then inward, similar to a bifilar only shifted in the z axis, and he can also make another variant by flipping the second layer in the x or y axis, making the current wind in the same direction on every layer.
Loved it! :) Do you need special transistors for this to handle such high frequencies? When I did this with a single transistor, it overheated too quickly.
Nice job.
Thank you, John!
I like how you showed the electric field. Pancake coils, I love them.
Personally I always use bifilar pancake coils as they have a lower resonant frequency and can hold much more energy in its fields.
Thanks Ivo. Are you able to create larger sparks at same voltage input, using bifilar?
@@PlasmaChannel Yes a bifilar coil can produce larger sparks, as the capacity of the coil is charged to a much higher voltage (more energy).
you just need to be careful for sparkover between the windings, as the voltage difference between them is much higher.
I don't generate sparks, as I see it as an entertaining waste of energy. instead I reuse the energy.
I was just wondering if there was a build tutorial for this circuit, because I wanted to get into this science area.
Very interesing. 10/10 :D
these solid state coils are very cool! I've been perfecting my drsstc for the better part of a year and with a variable interrupter you can get some nice sounds and sparks. also with a bit of modifications like a mosfet driving ic you can replace the bjt with a n-channel fet that can much more power. electroboom has a great schematic in his video about the topic
Let's see a vid of that.
I agree!
@@davemwangi05 working on it, should be out soon
I love this one👍👍👍
I like your all videos
Cool very nice Jay
Yay thanks for likeing my comment maybe one day when I'm able to get the right parts I will build one
Nice video!
Thanks!
Amazing
Hey love your videos keep it up bro ❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️
Thanks! Will do!
Very good and interesting video, thanks
Glad you enjoyed it, thank you for watching!
The production quality😘😘
You like it?
@@PlasmaChannel loved it. Actually planning to build this one
Wow so cool
4:34 you are the man so glad to see the human experiment done haha..
For science
Love watching your channel and the neat stuff you make. Have you ever thought of selling kits with all the components and a wiring diagram so we can make this stuff at home?
Yes I have, and am compiling the materials / info to start selling kits. It's been a full year in the making and hope to soon sell kits to all my builds.
@@PlasmaChannel I'd probably be interested in your kits... although I do like to be creative using a 3D printer.
Love it!
Thanks!!
Super Awesome video
Thank you so much 😀
as usual great video.
Thank you!
That secodary looked like a few hours of winding. Great job!
Thanks 👍I found a way to wind it on a drill. First time I messed up though and totally wasted 400 feet of wire.
Excellent build here! I have made my slayer exciter audio modulated. Try that and you will love it.
Thanks for the tip! I am designing a much more powerful slayer, that will blow this one out of the water. I'll add an audio feature to it
@@PlasmaChannel Youte welcome, check out my video of my sisye slayer Eddi exciter that is audio modulated. Also watch my video about my rotary spark gap I made. That little one I was talking about. I just got just got it uploaded a few days ago!
Sweet seeet sparks! I have one od those 6 inches tube color tvs and i was planing to make a poors man osciloscope once i cant buy one, but once it will be poor quality you think it is a good material to make a high voltage project or better to use a bit tube tv one to it?
Always awesome.....
Thanks you sir
I am your lovely student..❤️❤️❤️❤️
Very nice build! But I still think, that it isn't the most powerfull tesla coil that works on the slayer exiter principle. The driverless sstc works on the same principle but runs on mains voltage and is mutch more powerfull.
Your build is still very nice and it looks great!
Did you wire the transistors in paralell?
Thank you and have a nice day.
By fabor, I am part of several groups that study and experiment with scalar energy, your devices are very successful and reduced, they are giving us many ideas, we also study how to integrate it with Lakhovsky antennas, scalar medicine and free energy. Would you be kind and would you please us if it is possible to put subtitles in Spanish? Thank you for your brilliant contributions.
Hello, thank you for your kind words. I can consider subtitles.
I used to wind pancake coils for portable
x ray units up to 300 kv . You can stack those coils to achieve higher voltage... You do nice work..
I’ve wondered above that. Stacking pancake coils. Insulation between them must be incredibly critical…
Since you did this regularly, do you know where the two coils are separated? I can only see the larger coil, secondary I believe.
Looks good,is your L1 quarter wave of your L2? And at what frequency does plasma turn green?
I have found that adding a diode from the gate to drain (using a mosfet) with the cathode connected to the drain, greatly improves these circuits. At least with helical coils, might work with this one.
Very cool project as always! I just wanted to ask what is the diameter of the secondary coil and is it one layer or multiple layers? Also,what is the diameter of primary coil and wire
That's amazing! Can you please make a Video how to made this Pancake Tesla coil?
I love this project. We just got hit with a 5.7 magnitude earth quake here in utah. And many houses and buildings have been damaged. And our economy had tanked almost completely. So the only highlight is watching educational videos like yours on RUclips.
S.A., I heard about the quake. My sincerest regards to you and yours. Hope you are well. I am honored though that you enjoy my videos right now. I'm considering making a video next week titled, "5 exciting experiments to do during a lockdown" or something of the matter.
@@PlasmaChannel Thankyou so much. I am doing ok and so is my family. We are just struggling. And I'm afraid more struggles are to come in the following weeks. My dad works for Delta Airlines and Delta is laying off 10,000 workers. And my dad might be one of them. My mom is out of work and I am keeping my part time job that doesn't bring in much. I like the title already and I like the idea even more. I am just so grateful that there are people like you that can come up with these very interesting and project inspiring videos. (There aren't very many people like you) As I have been trying to earn money to buy a camera to record my own science videos since 2018. But it seem I shouldn't be spending money at this point and rather should be saving it. So that'll have to wait.
Sorry for the long reply. I wont waste anymore of your time. So I want to say thankyou for making videos you like, and exploring ideas you once thought were boring. Thankyou from deep in my heart, Thank You. :)
Make a ruhmkorff induction coil next. Love the video.
Those things are the bane of my life, I'm currently counting turns and layers on a 1920's model that I'm restoring. All that impregnated paper insulation is making it so much fun! 🤣🤣
Hi Jay... can I ask.... regarding the secondary, are the windings in-line or simple wound into the former?
Nice video🙂
How did you make the primery coil and where is it?And is there only one layer of secundary or more?How many turns did you wind?
the primary coil is on the outside of the secondary (circumference), and it is 4 turns.
Hi Jay.... may I ask, what value resistor are you using in this build? I see firstly a 1K, then a 1.5K and the link takes us to a 5.6K.....???? which is best??? Great vid as always...
Finally, thanks plasma channel, my coil its working now, why dont you make a DRSSTC coil?
When the transistor is conducting the voltage at the secondary turns the transistor more on, not off. It just turns the transistor off half cycle of the oscillation later.
Sir can you make a on how to make a pancake slayer please 👍
Nice
I'd love to see how you made that pancake my friend. Do your transistors get hot? Either way great video and device :) I've never seen it done like that and I've built a few slayer exciter circuits myself. Very very cool 10/10 ⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐
Yes they do, and thank you very much for your compliments! The aluminum heat sink keeps them cool enough for about 20 seconds of operation.
@@PlasmaChannel you're very welcome Jay, thank you for the awesome video and device. I'd love to make a SE circuit that can handle being on for hours but it's tough. That pancake though...I bet that was tough.
would you consider doing a video showing how to wind a pancake secondary coil. every attempt ive made ends up overlapping and ruined. i cant find a good video showing how to make a rig for this. itd be a huge help
Absolutely genial! Thank you for showing this! I did not figure out you could also do it the flat way... ;.() I have a working so called free energy magnet motor on my channel that uses the same size batteries like you show on this video.
Glad I could help!
@@PlasmaChannel Today I was offered to see your Pancake Tesla Coil in my everyday news reel...Among NVIDIA, INTEL and TESLA automobile --- Quite an achievement! Also check out this link and scroll all the way down:
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Any advice for a beginner getting into high voltage electronics? I know a bit, but I’ve never built anything over 60 volts. I really want to build an SSTC, but I’m not really sure how to start or if that’s even a good idea. I love your channel btw, and it’s what got me into high voltage electronics.
Hi Hercules. Glad you enjoy my videos. If you're not super familiar with higher voltages, I recommend only build totally safe things first. That would be a Van Der Graaff generator. Super easy, makes really high voltages. I have a video on making a Van der Graff. I also have two videos on making mini handheld tesla coils that are totally safe. Check them out!
I'd stray away from a solid state coil for a while...they are very complex.
5:57 nice one 👍
Why do you only have 170k subs!? You deserve at least a million :)
Thanks dude. I appreciate that. You can help by sharing some of my recent videos!
@@PlasmaChannel Already did :)
Is tip32c is a good replacement for the transistor you used and did you blew up any transistor
The tip32C is okay, but I found it gets hotter and dies quicker.
Its like a low current low voltage flyback arc!
Not that low of current. Off camera..it melts a steel needle in seconds.
Try it with a bifiliar pancake coil next! Tesla patent US512340A!
Here was a field demonstration of a bifiliar I made and powered by manually turning a AA on and off: vm.tiktok.com/sFaPch/
All the bifiliar coils i've seen are operated at really low voltages, so i'm not sure how well they'd handle higher voltages.
@@PlasmaChannel I think it will fair well. Tesla designed it for this purpose (in some pictures of lab you see large versions) but this of course depends on the dielectric strength of insulation of the wires and air spacing.
Great video as always! Especially these smaller projects as they can be made by people that don't have as much time, space or money to spend on projects
you don't have any of those? time, money, space, clothes, shoes?
Glad you like them!
Reminds me of the PCB tesla coils using GaN transistors from hackaday, those have to operate at many MHz so really super fast power transistors were required!
Power max - it was you that inspired me to use the MJE3055T! So glad you commented. I tried a few others, and did a lot of research, but when i saw you had good results, i went ahead using the MJE3055T. Cheers, Mate
@@PlasmaChannel I need to continue development of my PLL musical singling coil, I like the compact nature of your pancake coil, I hate the large volume a normal tesla coil uses. Did you fill the coil with resin to prevent arcover?
Inside there are dot board. what are all the components in it.
Can you please tell sir?😃😃😃
You should use a small brass pyramids on top I think it'd be interesting to see considering that when you put the multiple LEDs in the path of the field they lit up in a cone shape
Fun idea. Placing any metal near the secondary coil, though, steals power out of the system. Makes the output, worse
Hey Jay, what is the advantage of Pancake coils over cylindrical coils in case of using them in Tesla coils?
Adoro estes videos, muito bom
Thank you!
I should build one of these, but 5x larger with a dual resonent vacuum tube driver!
wow! didn't expect to see that 100% of the people that answered the pole were subscribed! thats awesome
Right?! Are you subbed?
@@PlasmaChannel Yeah, of course I am, I've been subscribed for almost 6 months now!
Love your videos, but where is the bigger and "much better" version you said you are working on? Thank you for sharing!
Thanks for the reminder!
do slayer exiters have open air discharges? and is the screwdriver it is arcing to connected to anything?
where can i find details about positioning the primary and secondary coils? please.
can I use TIP31c transistor and how much maximum turns I can give to the secondary coil to get more longer arcs
Tip31 will work, but i found the transistor I used is best.
@@PlasmaChannel thank you very much
Cool! But how do you make the elusive pancake coil????
I have a question: why do people always power it straight from a 9v battery and other low volt sources? why not have a first stage circuit bump it up to 600v, rectify it, put a capacitor to flatten it, and use that as the input to the slayer exciter? the arcs should be so much bigger right? or am I missing smth?
How many windings for secondary? also, could you provide a better schematic? no resistor value or position of base, emitter and collector. also no polarity on battery
Can you please tell which mosfet is used and value of resistance
3:00 yes it would make an electric field, but concept behind that is the primary coil making an electromagnetic field that that would induce a current into the secondary based on lenzs law
Correct. For time purposes, I dumbed it down though.
Firstly, nice build, however a few things stood out, firstly how come there are two to-220 transistors on the board at 2:20 . are they paralleled up or are you using a fancier push pull driver? Where can I find a schematic of your build? Also what resonance freuqency is it operating at and to what impedance did you design your primary/secondary coil? What current is drawn by the circuit, and what is the efficency? Surely that heatsink is not going to last in CW mode. Lastly "worlds most powerful is a bit of an overstatement but still a nice build :P!
Hi Platinum, thanks for asking. So I stated in the video, while showing the two transistors, that they are wired in parallel to increase performance and increase longevity. As for the schematic - I also showed the exact schematic in the video. It is wired identical to the shown schematic.
The heat sink gets hit after about 15 seconds. That’s good enough for me. As for the title... there is no other handheld rechargeable pancake slayer coil on the internet. Mine is the first 😋
@@PlasmaChannel In that case I stand corrected about the first in the world :) ! I don't mean to come off as rude but i only saw the schematic at the 3:05ish minute mark, the critical values of the parts such as the winding ammount for the primary and secondary coils was sadly not shown, however the description did list the parts used. Also, as for the longevity and stability of the circuit I doubt there will be much gain in this aspect as the 3055 transistor can switch quite high currents, and in fact you may be doing more harm than good if only one biasing resistor is used as the dies can have various gain factors, which will negate the benefit of using two transistors and can lead to a catastrophic failiure from a thermal runaway effect especially on a small heatsink. As for the batteries its cool to have it portable granted, but that creates a difficulty with grounding leeding to smaller breakout. Lastly how exactly are the coils wound? is it a bifilar design or are the primary and secondary coils on other sides of the acrylic?
Thomas Stanly Curtis wrote a book on High Frequency Apparatus back in 1920s. One of his projects was a pancake Tesla(Oudin) coil. His book is for free on Google books. Chapter VIII is the design of a pancake Oudin coil.
Everything old is new again! Somewhere in there is how a kicking coil works. Kicking coils are used in vacuum/insulation checkers today. Electro -Technic products makes several of these. It's great that you are revisiting this technology with a modern twist!
The flat coil is different, but didn't Tesla experiment with those too?
Interesting info! Yeah, I didnt think I was bringing back anything old....just didnt see any flat slayer exciter coils online and wanted to make my own!
@@PlasmaChannel That's fantastic! I enjoy your videos and wish that I could make some of these myself. There is something about the purely electric and mechanical ways of making sparks that appeals to me though, such as spark gap Tesla coils and kicking coil devices. Keep up the good work.
That was very cool. I'm with you on the idea that it's not a true Tesla coil, more related to solid state Oudin coil. Interesting nonetheless. Also wondering if that's the same circuit as an arc lighter?
Thanks for watching! It definitely is different than the circuit for the arc lighter though. The arc lighter uses a high voltage secondary which does not need to feed back into the primary to trigger it. It has totally isolated secondary windings.
Interesting, I've heard that flat coils notoriously suffer from internal arcing. Mayhaps I heard wrong.
Either way, very compact! Very pretty!
Hi Dayton! Thanks a bunch. Yeah, what's interesting is the flat coil was particularly sensitive to turns ratio. I got these results using 4 turns on the primary. Bringing it down to 2 turns causes open breakout to occur, but the sparks are cold to the touch. No power behind them at all. And they cant be stretched out. Its amazing how much current the arcs carry using this design.
An easy option to combat that would be to immerse the coils in oil or vacuum pot them in resin (second option not as easy but the vacuum is required to ensure the resin fully penetrates the gaps with no air gaps or air in the resin)
@Heads Mess Just watched. I see what you mean. 'Twas a little hard to follow without narration, but I think I got it.
@Heads Mess An understandable predicament. I guess I've just been lucky; I've used the same camera for years now. Its gotten up close and personal with explosions, thermite, high voltage, microwaves, etc. That camera is a trooper!
P.S. I think we can *all* agree that high voltage looks much better in real life than on film :)
Can an IGBT transistor be used or does it have to be a BJT transistor
A miniature version of this with the secondary wound around a fluorescent tube starter might make a fairly good UV source. Its not clear how effective this would be but only one way to find out!!
Andre De Guerin how would you do it
И затем Тесла подумал - как сцуко-блеадь засадить башню в коробочку??! Ептить идея - pancake!!!!
You are now 1/10,000,000,000 of the way to constructing your own tokamak, well done sir.
And I hope that Nord is compensating you well, you deserve it.
duuude. what a joke.
Thanks idical, I appreciate that