QUICK NOTE!! Some of the Gen 5 mentions were crammed together between games! To better clarify, the following are in B2W2 only: - Nature Preserve shiny Haxorus - Castelia Park - Pledge Grove Keldeo event - Strange House - Static Volcarona in Relic Castle Also, I said Cerulean at the start, that should have been Vermillion😆
Static encounter volcarona is in bw1 but only post game. Its also probably better to catch the one in b2w2 in the postgame as well. Because the level up learnset is better then
strange house gotta be one of my fav haunted locations in pokemon. The tense music, rearranging furniture, and horrific journal logs strike that tone shift I want in an otherwise adventurous and non creepy game. It made the "scary" house in xy such a disappointment.
Also in BW2, when the sewers are flooded, you can access Castelia City's back alley, where you can fight 3 trainers to obtain black glasses and there's some cool graffiti too
The power plant has always been the most magical thing to me. Some years ago I was working outside and I saw a big, remote building that looked empty, on an island across a river. And it gave me that same magical feeling. I just wanted to go over there and see if I could find a Zapdos
Iirc the story behind the lone truck is that it's a leftover beta element from when that map was the middle of a town or something. It was definitely left there intentionally but not for a specific purpose. And then it's in remakes just for fun
In HGSS, during the Celebi event, you get teleported to a cave where you fight Giovanni. I had no idea until this last year that that cave is accessible in the main game in a hidden cave behind a waterfall in Tohjo Falls. Was I the only one who had no idea you could access it? From what I understand, other than the event scenario, it doesn't serve any other purpose other than having a few rock smash locations
You didn’t even mention things like the scorched slab, new mauville, the trick house, the entire route south of mt. Pyre, getting the fossils from the desert, any of the Mach bike accessible areas for items, or the secret caves that open up for the legendaries postgame in emerald. Hoenn certainly had a lot of hidden stuff!
I'd say only about half of what you listed here are secret areas. New Mauville you are tasked with going to after you get surf, The Trick House is just a house in the middle of a route, The Scorched Slab is just a tiny cavern that isn't really hidden, and anything that's not the Regi cave in the Desert isn't really hidden either as you're kinda nudged into exploring the desert after you get the goggles. All your other points are fair game though.
In Sun and Moon, you are able to crawl under the Zygarde Lab building near Ula'Ula Meadow to get the X-Scissor TM. The game shows you the TM as you walk by but does not tell you how to get it. Very fun secret (I love Generation 7)
There are tons of secrets in gen7, I don't understand what they are talking about at all... And especially compared to gen 8 :/ They probably just didn't find them lol (I love gen 7)
I do think an underlooked aspect of the perfect storm that is Pokemon is being released when it was. If you were born in the era you know what i mean. Being a game like this with so many secrets in a time that the internet was nowhere near what it is now, made it more special. Now you can just look up whatever or watch videos and see how to do everything. These days you had to buy a guide, learn from someone, or just happen to find it. I fell in love with Pokemon because i found Red on accident. I (somehow) figured out the Regirock chamber without any help. I just did the HM for some unknown reason. So many instances like this. I think this is why these older nintendo games are do iconic for us. Mario 64, Legend of Zelda OOT, Pokemon, and others.
I also feel that same surprise element of pre-internet secrets is what made Breath of the Wild so fun. Everybody across the globe was learning, experimenting, and experiencing something new at the same time. It gave me that same feeling as stumbling upon Red or successfully tracking down Raikou for the first time.
Its exactly this. You will never have another shared experience like gens 1-3 and MAYBE 4. Gen 3 was out before google, so people had to find out how to read BRAILLE, gen 2 had so many glitches that anything you heard COULD be true, and gen 1 was literally the pinnacle of schoolyard rumors. Everyone was finding things out on their own, or in small groups, and I think that really brought people together. Even now just talking about those time can start and solidify new friendships, unlike newer gens. Few people are looking back at gen 6+ for anything other than megas and the regional gimmick Now people are lazy or too uninterested, either being adults now or kids with low attention spans, to ever consider going out of their way to find possible secrets on their own, when google is right there.
@@izumaiya I know a lot of people, including myself, that didn’t have access to the Internet for a pretty long time, and when I did have access to it I was usually spending my time doing other things. I remember finding side areas all the time prior to my family getting Internet in 2014, but I can agree that some of that novelty has worn off for me as I’ve gotten older and information has only gotten more accessible.
Although I understand this the main reason for the decline in the hype is that the earliest games were designed with countless hidden mechanics. For example until today there are facts, places, battles and even events that are now being discovered in the early games and were unknown even with the internet. The newer games lack that due to stupid code brakers or just a lack of meticulous writing.
I was playing emerald as a kid and I COULD SWEAR TO GOD that one time I've been on a huge island with a single berry tree in the south of Hoenn that I would never find my way back to it. When I heard about mirage island years later it all came back into my mind. Of course I don't have any proof and in the end it doesn't matter that much anyway since there's nothing to do on that island. And hearing the chances of 1:10000 kinda make me think twice if it's really not my imagination but idk man, I'm too sure about it.
No I had a legal arceus for sinjoh ruins! They gave away an arceus at the toys r us event via mystery gift (unrelated to the flute arceus) and you can use that one for the event
2012: Huh, one of the Kalos Power Plant doors is locked. I can't wait until the distribution event opens it up. 2025: I agree Smith, it wasn't even worth mentioning
One that always stood out to me that no one seems to know is the Unity Tower island area in BW 1. It's next to Liberty Island on the map and you can take a boat in castelia to it only after you've made an international trade. It's a giant tower with 130 individually accessible floors with a ton of secrets in it. Since there were 130 regions you could trade with online, each room was dedicated to a region. Any time you traded with someone the game would save their character and name. And you could talk to them as an NPC there. They'd remember what you traded them and how many times you traded. And remind you, for example, "hey. Remember when we traded *pokemon* and *pokemon*?" Or ask how their pokemon is doing
Me revising the nostalgia of the hidden locations for gens 1,2,and 3 and coming to the realization that I apparently played the games way too much since apparently a lot of people don't know about them
For real I played so much Pokémon red I spoke to every single NPC because of that first guy you find in the first town who gives you a free potion or something so I wanted to see what else I could get for free. And going through the entire game with the item finder in whichever gen that came out
@@christianmiller6046 that was also gen one, you had to keep going to your bag to use it and it would just ding at you once in a text box and you had to look everywhere around with no direction whatsoever.
I grew up with all of these games. I was 7 when red and blue came out. My favorite thing I did in gaming was figure out the regi's secret area on my own, and search the entire game to capture the regi's. I can't describe the feeling of gaming back then. Y'know, without the spoilers and internet guides.
He misses so many unova areas, like the moor of Icirrus, the cave of Being, the regi chambers in clay tunnel, the hidden Heatran in reversal mountain, and Challenger's cave
20:50 Volcarona is encounterable in the OG BW as shown in the video, it is however able to be encountered earlier in B2W2, this is also incorrect in the pinned comment atm. 24:30 All MegaStones in generation 6 had this restriction, while it added to the weirdness of that spot the video makes it seem like it is only this one stone, they're all insanely weird
What's crazy about the Yellow surfing minigame is that in order to actually unlock it, you have to do a ton of content to get to the end game of Pokemon Stadium, and the method for teaching your Pikachu surf wasn't even really advertised. I'd guess that very few players ever actually got to play the mini game because of this. Also, there were a number of Wifi/in-person distributions for event Arceus that unlocked the Sinjoh Ruins event totally legitimately.
In the 3DS Virtual Console release of Yellow they actually unlocked the surfing mini game so you can play it without having a surfing Pikachu. After all those years owning the physical game I finally got to try it out.
The gen one games really reward your exploration. You can actually get a zapdos in red and blue with 3 gym badges (brocks, mistys and kogas) so u can fight surge with a zapdos 😂
The dad isn't around for the same reason you don't see Deku's father in MHA, an unstated cultural thing. You must have seen in anime how one of the usual issues are some main character's parents being transfered to another city, and the kid just staying alone to finish high school or whatever. Same thing, pokemon MC's father probably got transferred to another city, and the mum+MC decided to stay on their hometown to not uproot their life
The removal of HMs is definitely the downfall of secret areas and as one of seven HM fans I will allow myself to yell at HM haters just this one time Edit: People will make 27 compromises to make HMs "better" rather than admit that they think HMs suck. It's not inherently bad to be in a majority bruh, just own it
You are an icon for minority representation. Please continue to speak your truth and maybe one day the world might come to understand what it is that leads you to your… *ahem*… idiosyncratic point of view.
Yeah, I also miss HMs. I wish they had reworked them instead of removing them entirely. Like, what if instead of taking up a move slot, they were out of battle tools only? Then pokemon could even have more than 4 of them, and they could show up on the pokemon automatically as soon as you unlock the HM. no learning/forgetting/relearning issues to worry about
I agree with you. Removing HMs was a mistake. Yes they were tedious but that is what makes it fun. Whenever you went out to a new dungeon you almost had to plan a little expedition making sure you had everything you needed with you. Difficulty and obstacles are what makes things fun. This is the same reason why I dislike the full team exp share as well. Grinding was an integral and fun part of the Pokemon games.
Ive played and beat every game gen 1 thru 6 multiple times since I was five years old in the 90s. Never once seen a shiny but ive been to mirage island twice lol
I totally never knew about the Hidden Grottos in B2/W2 until Chuggaconroy’s LP 17:51 the Sinjo Ruins had an official Arceus event associated with them - the event even specifically made mention of transferring it to HGSS for it!
And fun fact: if you then hack in a Hall of Origin Arceus you can return to the Ruins for a 2nd Creation Trio member, and a bit of new dialouge fron the Hiker iirc
Sweet, doing some busy work right now and needed some nostalgia to listen to while I go on. I always loved the Route 34 ambush, a hidden area near the daycare south of Goldenrod, use surf to swim south towards Azalea Town and you'll find three Swimmers or Beauties who are sunbathing and will lock you into three battles in a row. Can be kinda scary if you're not prepared.
In Gen 5, there's an entire hidden town. If you go to the subway in Nimbasa that hosts the Battle Subway terminals, one of the terminals is a normal subway terminal. You can take it to Anville Town, which is very scenic and hosts the switchyard for the subways. But there's an npc there that'll give the player free EV consumables for making 7-win streaks in the Battle Subway and another npc that'll trade some items on weekends.
Fun fact, the amount he gives you increases if you keep reaching a 7 streak (though it maxes out at 10). I deliberately win a 7 streak, go to Anville, see what he's handing out (save before talking to him) and if he is handing out rare candy, I soft reset, battle the subway 9 more times, revisit him and get 10 rare candies.
Small correction: the place where you can find Virizion is still within the actual Pinwheel Forest, close to the exit on the complete opposite end of the one where this outside section is. Also, the static Volcarona is also in BW1, but it's limited to postgame, while in BW2 the section it is encountered in is locked behind the passage from the PWT-area next to Driftveil, where you can get one quite underleveled. The specific conditions behind getting the Alakazamite are also not just limited to it, but ALL Megastones that you have to find across the region that aren't just gifted to you, you have to visit Sycamore (after fighting your rival in the postgame-area iirc) at the Sun Dial, he'll give you the ability to see Megastones scattered across the region but only at this specific time. The time-restriction on the Megastones was removed in ORAS iirc. Also that "super rare cave" in Area Zero where "pretty much only Chansey spawn" is also the only place where Roaring Moon/Iron Valiant spawn, so... they're probably more noteable for that
18:22 whats not mentioned here is if you send over a hall of origin arceus to HGSS after you do this event once, you can do it again but cynthia wont be present.
I wouldn't say the event islands are obscure or hidden, because you can't access them without the event, a hidden place is somewhere you can get to within normal gameplay but is, well, hidden
I recently went back to my old game cartdriges for the DS games to scavenge legendaries for a living National dex and I was SHOCKED to find out I had no idea how intricate and deep the Clay Tunnel in BW2's post game was
I'd say Seafoam Islands is the most commonly visited secret area in gen 1. You get surf in Fuchsia, and are at the bottom of the town when you beat the gym to use it. So clearly it's pushing you down to use it. And then route 21 is clearly supposed to be so you leave Cinnabar and go to Viridian and then the elite 4. Flying to Pallet and then surfing south to get to Cinnabar feels like the big brain secret itself. Not the intended path. That being said, articuno itself can easily be missed since a 2nd, optional, out of the way puzzle is needed to get it
31:10 actually the hidden part of of BDSP is the story campaign. If you want to fill out the map of the underground and participate in mining it takes up much more gameplay time than the actual game
I think a bit part of what made secret areas so great back in the early gens was because the map was fully 2D with tiles. After Gen 4 when they started transitioning towards 2.5D and full 3D is that the games start getting less of those locations as it was diffcul to include them into the mesh or making them appealing when previously you could design a sort of micro dungeon by moving a few tiles here and there and slapping some obstacles. It also makes me think how cool would be to have an "old school pokemon" kind of monster collecting game that goes back to 2D sprites and tiles.
I'm surprised the Celebi hidden event and the cave where you can meet Giovanni in HGSS didn't make the cut. The Giovanni fight and Team Rocket and Silver's backstory are one of the more interesting lore pieces of the games
Holy crap, Patrick!! It's been years man, I remember you deciding to take a break. Really glad to see you on my feed and I hope you're doing better now ☀️
I think the Stark Mountain sequence from Platinum deserves a mention. "Secret" not so much, but treacherous to get to, and unlocking Heatran required two trips.
Thank you. It's my day off and I was just looking for a video to watch while I have my coffee and play videogames. Couldn't find anything and then this popped up
7:05 I'll always remember this spot because it's where I found my very first shiny, a Jigglypuff! My cousin told me about that hidden spot and after I caught a normal Jigglypuff I was leaving the grass and encountered the shiny one! Unfortunately I lost that cartridge but I've thought about reclaiming it someday!
I got most of the major event distributions for Platinum back in the day - Rotom, Shaymin, Darkrai, and the Lv 100 Arceus - so I'm proud to say that I have seen most of Gen 4's secrets legitimately, including the Sinjoh Ruins.
The interesting thing about the Sinjoh ruins is that both the Hall of Origin and the event distribution Arceus activate the event, and using one and then the other will REACTIVATE the event, which two event or two HoO Arceus cannot do. The second trip is even unique because Cynthia will not be there, and you just go to the Mystri Stage yourself and can get a second Creation legendary. It’s also the only way to get a Griseous Orb in HGSS since a Pokemon holding one in Platinum can’t be traded
Out of curiosity: I recall you mention that you've never played Platinum. When you have to discuss content from that game in your videos, do you usually have another member of your team research those parts for you or do you look into it yourself with wiki information and all?
You got it! Craig covers it for me! Although, I've played BDSP a fair number of times, so it's not like I'm totally aloof to SInnoh. I still haven't played Platinum, however, because I want to make a video on my first time playing it :)
The magic of playing the old games was that there wasn't really any internet and rumours would be passed like legends amongst the kids in the playground and between friends about these secret places and hidden pokemon.
Just wanted to mention that the dive area in the shipwreck in Emerald is there for the deepseatooth/scale! In emerald legacy clamperl is put in early. Sadly we cant evolve it early due to these items being locked after dive :(
In Union Cave there's also Cooltrainer Nick. You know, the one winning the Bug Catching Contest most of the time. I was really wondering where he was located because the other trainers in the contest are encountered in the game
One of my most beloved memories was discovering the Sealed Chamber in Sapphire. It was pre Internet being really widespread, plus I was a kid and didn’t even think to look it up. All I had was the guide book that gave me what each Braille letter meant but slowly putting that puzzle together was such an amazing feeling that you can’t really get anymore
I understand the "its part of the story mentality" and you did hint to it in some way but i lived in sapphire, played many hours, multiple playthroughs, and never knew about sky pillar for a year. I understand that internet killed many secrets today but that was my magical moment. As well as discovering giratina in diamond. Same situation but that was because a third legendary before that third game entry wasnt a staple at that time. So those were my favourite surprise to discover.
Am sure someone mentioned this already but couldn't find it scrolling comments; The Sinjoh ruins was accessible with out cheats using an event distributed Arceus as the first legitimate way to obtain one
He didn't mention the alley ( 20:15 ) in castelia city, this is really rare and kinda cool I didn't find information in bulbapedia but on serebii there is a bit of information. As well as videos of how to get there.
Wow, this is a great video. Some of these areas I did know about, some I definitely did not. This kind of content is what keeps the fandom alive and thriving! What I’ve since realized is how amazing it was that as a young kid how absurd/unlikely it was that I somehow came upon Mirage Island. Until recently I had no clue the actual parameters for having it appear, and I’m shocked lol. Too bad there’s nothing super interesting on it!
In Gen 2, I also like the whole area around the Lake of Rage... I believe this was leftover from a time that another full town was planned to be up there apart from Blackthorn, but it still felt special the first time I found it.
I think mentionable might have been the secret locations in the water/at some cliffs in Emerald which are empty first, but if you beat the Pokemon League you can backtrack to the weather institute where some guys tell you there is harsh sunlight/strong rain on a specific route. So if you visit said route, there is a diving spot (or an entrance in the cliff) which wasn't there before, and these are the spots where you can catch Kyogre and Groudon on lv 70 😎
When I played through Yellow for the first time, I had a glimpse of the Power Plant's existence by looking at the Town Map. I saw that house with the Pikachu south from Fuschia City, but had no idea I could play a Surf minigame with a Pikachu, but I didn't have one that knew Surf, so I never got to play the minigame until I got the Virtual Console version. It should be mentioned that obtaining the Giratina egg from the Sinjoh Ruins is the only way to obtain the Griseous Orb, thus Giratina's Origin Form, in HGSS, because it cannot be held by a Pokémon when you go trade in gen 4. I should note that while you can obtain Eevee in BW2, you cannot make it evolve into Glaceon or Leafeon until post-game because the rocks required for these evolutions are located in post-game areas. The Liberty Garden can be accessed to in BW2, but Victini isn't there.
5:17 That fucking hole in the fence drove me insane because I could see the gap in the trees over the fence, but official artwork of Johto at the time showed what looked like a thin path connecting Olivine City or Route 39 to that side of the National park, so that's where I spent forever looking. I didn't notice the hole in the fence on the other side of the park until years later
A little Note from me. In Pokemon Platin. after the Elite 4 you can get your own Villa. And behind it is a Pond. you can just catch Karpador in it. Usless right? NO! bc depending on the fishing-Rod u use the Karpador has a different LVL. My highest was at a whopping LVL 97!
I’ve been to mirage island. I had some great luck as a kid playing emerald. Even got my first full odds shiny just running around meteor falls. Had no idea what it was, but to this day I still have my pink crobat from emerald
for me, it's the ruin of alphs when you finish the sliding panels puzzle. i legit bolted out of the house, barefooted, looking for my brother because i found a secret place after I finished the puzzle.
personally I love hour long pokemon videos, they're my fav! but its understandable u had to cut back on some of the locations. I also feel bad how the older games had more secrets and better implemented than the newer games 😢
I actually thought getting Lugia will be part of the story and when I completed the Johto League, I was disappointed that I didn't get Lugia and accepted it because I still had a pokemon journey. Then when I revisited whirlpool islands one day, I reached an area of whirpool islands and found Lugia. I learnt an important life lesson at the age of 7 or 8 and got my Lugia. I was hoping to replicate thst for Soulsilver but they made finding Lugia part of the story.
Concerning Pokemon Yellow, I didn't know for years about the surf mini-game because Pikachu can't learn Surf without the help of an "action replay" device.
Hey Pat, just got this channel recommended to me. I don’t even really play Pokémon, but I used to watch all your videos on TSP back in BO2/BO3 days. I was in middle and high school then. Cool to hear your voice again, and glad you’re still making vids bro. Still remember the legendary TranZit rant lol. Just wanted to say hey. Thanks for everything man
I remember I couldn’t afford pokemon emerald when it came out and my parents wouldn’t buy it for me, so I found out about emulators. The thing is though, emulation was fairly new esp when we were still in the gba era. So while emulation existed, a lot of roms did not. Especially not English roms as America was just a bit behind in terms of pc gaming. So I found a Japanese rom of emerald and I played it all the way to the point of the 6th or 7th badge. I didn’t understand anything but I loved it. It was so cool coming from a gameboy color to see full color on a pokemon game. The only reason I didn’t finish is because the game got to that point where you have to fight team magma and aqua but since I couldn’t read Japanese, I had no idea what I was supposed to do. Didn’t even know team aqua and magma were enemies lol. But when the pod of wailmers block your path from going out into the open ocean… that’s where I got stuck. I even got my mom, who can read Japanese characters individually (like a child) but not really can understand (she’s Korean) to help me figure out what I’m supposed to do but all she could do was read my name. She had no idea what even game I was playing as pokemon was sorta still finding footing in Texas.
Both of my "true" shinies, meaning walking around and finding a shiny by accident, not shiny hunting, were tentacools. I know, not great. But whats great is how i found them: one in silver, the other in soul silver. And i was exiting the daycare south of goldenrod and decided to get the soft sand. As soon as i got into the water BOOM, shiny tentacool
I think what's funny is that I actually had mirage island spawn on a random playthrough of emerald I did as a teen and I didn't even realize until later that it was obscenely rare
A secret area in sv that ypu shpuldve included In kitakami, at the crystal pool there is a rock with a small cave entrance in it That cave leads straight downnall thw way through the mountain There are some items there abd a very powerful trainer to fight, and at the bottom of the whole is a small cave where you can find swinub Thats the ibly area in kitakami to get swinub, and while you may find the area, you wont be able to enter the secret tunnel leading to it since you drop into that cave from the ceiling
QUICK NOTE!! Some of the Gen 5 mentions were crammed together between games! To better clarify, the following are in B2W2 only:
- Nature Preserve shiny Haxorus
- Castelia Park
- Pledge Grove Keldeo event
- Strange House
- Static Volcarona in Relic Castle
Also, I said Cerulean at the start, that should have been Vermillion😆
The Static Volcarona is also in BW as well but just only during the postgame and is encountered at Lv 70 instead of Lv 35
Static encounter volcarona is in bw1 but only post game. Its also probably better to catch the one in b2w2 in the postgame as well. Because the level up learnset is better then
strange house gotta be one of my fav haunted locations in pokemon. The tense music, rearranging furniture, and horrific journal logs strike that tone shift I want in an otherwise adventurous and non creepy game. It made the "scary" house in xy such a disappointment.
the clip u used of the Volcarona encounter is literally from bw1... you can find it in bw1 lol
Also in BW2, when the sewers are flooded, you can access Castelia City's back alley, where you can fight 3 trainers to obtain black glasses and there's some cool graffiti too
The power plant has always been the most magical thing to me. Some years ago I was working outside and I saw a big, remote building that looked empty, on an island across a river. And it gave me that same magical feeling. I just wanted to go over there and see if I could find a Zapdos
I liked your comment just to ruin the 69 like count
Did you find the zapdos?
@@gokubroly12009 I didnt have surf, so I couldn't cross the river :c I should head back once I do get it tho
Grown man btw
@iRage_420 woman actually~
Fun fact about those HGSS areas, there are special trees on those rockclimbing areas that you can use headbutt on to get non-johto pokemon.
Ah yes, bc johto refuses to give players johto pokemon 😂😂 2nd gen and the remakes were not good games tbh, yall just like the following pokemon
@@analteredone9485I’m confused, where did anyone say Johto refuses to give you Johto Pokemon?
@@analteredone9485 Keep your negative attitude and opinion to yourself scrub
@@analteredone9485 *Gen 2 Pokémon
I give zero f’s about the following Pokémon. The remakes are great, your opinion is just bad. See? I can do it too.
@@LambentLight00 Johto is just "infamous" for not giving players like 8 new Johto Pokemon until Kanto.
Iirc the story behind the lone truck is that it's a leftover beta element from when that map was the middle of a town or something. It was definitely left there intentionally but not for a specific purpose. And then it's in remakes just for fun
In FrLg, there is also a hidden Lava Cookie in that location
That lv 20 Slowbro in Johto is one of the best encounters in the game funnily enough. I try to go for it in most of my playthroughs nowadays
In HGSS, during the Celebi event, you get teleported to a cave where you fight Giovanni. I had no idea until this last year that that cave is accessible in the main game in a hidden cave behind a waterfall in Tohjo Falls. Was I the only one who had no idea you could access it? From what I understand, other than the event scenario, it doesn't serve any other purpose other than having a few rock smash locations
You didn’t even mention things like the scorched slab, new mauville, the trick house, the entire route south of mt. Pyre, getting the fossils from the desert, any of the Mach bike accessible areas for items, or the secret caves that open up for the legendaries postgame in emerald. Hoenn certainly had a lot of hidden stuff!
I'd say only about half of what you listed here are secret areas. New Mauville you are tasked with going to after you get surf, The Trick House is just a house in the middle of a route, The Scorched Slab is just a tiny cavern that isn't really hidden, and anything that's not the Regi cave in the Desert isn't really hidden either as you're kinda nudged into exploring the desert after you get the goggles.
All your other points are fair game though.
In Sun and Moon, you are able to crawl under the Zygarde Lab building near Ula'Ula Meadow to get the X-Scissor TM. The game shows you the TM as you walk by but does not tell you how to get it. Very fun secret (I love Generation 7)
There are tons of secrets in gen7, I don't understand what they are talking about at all... And especially compared to gen 8 :/ They probably just didn't find them lol (I love gen 7)
There’s also a ton of optional places in Po Town and the entirety of ultra space which he just??? Skipped????
I do think an underlooked aspect of the perfect storm that is Pokemon is being released when it was. If you were born in the era you know what i mean.
Being a game like this with so many secrets in a time that the internet was nowhere near what it is now, made it more special. Now you can just look up whatever or watch videos and see how to do everything. These days you had to buy a guide, learn from someone, or just happen to find it.
I fell in love with Pokemon because i found Red on accident. I (somehow) figured out the Regirock chamber without any help. I just did the HM for some unknown reason. So many instances like this.
I think this is why these older nintendo games are do iconic for us. Mario 64, Legend of Zelda OOT, Pokemon, and others.
I also feel that same surprise element of pre-internet secrets is what made Breath of the Wild so fun.
Everybody across the globe was learning, experimenting, and experiencing something new at the same time. It gave me that same feeling as stumbling upon Red or successfully tracking down Raikou for the first time.
Its exactly this. You will never have another shared experience like gens 1-3 and MAYBE 4. Gen 3 was out before google, so people had to find out how to read BRAILLE, gen 2 had so many glitches that anything you heard COULD be true, and gen 1 was literally the pinnacle of schoolyard rumors. Everyone was finding things out on their own, or in small groups, and I think that really brought people together. Even now just talking about those time can start and solidify new friendships, unlike newer gens. Few people are looking back at gen 6+ for anything other than megas and the regional gimmick
Now people are lazy or too uninterested, either being adults now or kids with low attention spans, to ever consider going out of their way to find possible secrets on their own, when google is right there.
@@izumaiya I know a lot of people, including myself, that didn’t have access to the Internet for a pretty long time, and when I did have access to it I was usually spending my time doing other things. I remember finding side areas all the time prior to my family getting Internet in 2014, but I can agree that some of that novelty has worn off for me as I’ve gotten older and information has only gotten more accessible.
Although I understand this the main reason for the decline in the hype is that the earliest games were designed with countless hidden mechanics.
For example until today there are facts, places, battles and even events that are now being discovered in the early games and were unknown even with the internet. The newer games lack that due to stupid code brakers or just a lack of meticulous writing.
I was playing emerald as a kid and I COULD SWEAR TO GOD that one time I've been on a huge island with a single berry tree in the south of Hoenn that I would never find my way back to it. When I heard about mirage island years later it all came back into my mind. Of course I don't have any proof and in the end it doesn't matter that much anyway since there's nothing to do on that island. And hearing the chances of 1:10000 kinda make me think twice if it's really not my imagination but idk man, I'm too sure about it.
No I had a legal arceus for sinjoh ruins! They gave away an arceus at the toys r us event via mystery gift (unrelated to the flute arceus) and you can use that one for the event
That little pond on GSC Johto route 45 yields level ten Dragonair if you fish with the super rod
Its a shame you dont get the super rod until you have access to the seaside area in kanto
2012: Huh, one of the Kalos Power Plant doors is locked. I can't wait until the distribution event opens it up.
2025: I agree Smith, it wasn't even worth mentioning
I guess the power plant pass was just hidden in a rock next to the grunt all this time.
One that always stood out to me that no one seems to know is the Unity Tower island area in BW 1. It's next to Liberty Island on the map and you can take a boat in castelia to it only after you've made an international trade. It's a giant tower with 130 individually accessible floors with a ton of secrets in it. Since there were 130 regions you could trade with online, each room was dedicated to a region. Any time you traded with someone the game would save their character and name. And you could talk to them as an NPC there. They'd remember what you traded them and how many times you traded. And remind you, for example, "hey. Remember when we traded *pokemon* and *pokemon*?" Or ask how their pokemon is doing
Me revising the nostalgia of the hidden locations for gens 1,2,and 3 and coming to the realization that I apparently played the games way too much since apparently a lot of people don't know about them
Same 😂
For real I played so much Pokémon red I spoke to every single NPC because of that first guy you find in the first town who gives you a free potion or something so I wanted to see what else I could get for free. And going through the entire game with the item finder in whichever gen that came out
@@christianmiller6046 that was also gen one, you had to keep going to your bag to use it and it would just ding at you once in a text box and you had to look everywhere around with no direction whatsoever.
6:21 "Less than 99% have visited" no way 😳
It’s >1% true!
Haha I went on a mission to look for this comment as soon as I heard it. Glad you did not disappoint
So many more of us are part of the 1% than I'd have thought!
I grew up with all of these games. I was 7 when red and blue came out.
My favorite thing I did in gaming was figure out the regi's secret area on my own, and search the entire game to capture the regi's. I can't describe the feeling of gaming back then. Y'know, without the spoilers and internet guides.
He misses so many unova areas, like the moor of Icirrus, the cave of Being, the regi chambers in clay tunnel, the hidden Heatran in reversal mountain, and Challenger's cave
20:50 Volcarona is encounterable in the OG BW as shown in the video, it is however able to be encountered earlier in B2W2, this is also incorrect in the pinned comment atm.
24:30 All MegaStones in generation 6 had this restriction, while it added to the weirdness of that spot the video makes it seem like it is only this one stone, they're all insanely weird
What's crazy about the Yellow surfing minigame is that in order to actually unlock it, you have to do a ton of content to get to the end game of Pokemon Stadium, and the method for teaching your Pikachu surf wasn't even really advertised. I'd guess that very few players ever actually got to play the mini game because of this.
Also, there were a number of Wifi/in-person distributions for event Arceus that unlocked the Sinjoh Ruins event totally legitimately.
In the 3DS Virtual Console release of Yellow they actually unlocked the surfing mini game so you can play it without having a surfing Pikachu. After all those years owning the physical game I finally got to try it out.
The gen one games really reward your exploration. You can actually get a zapdos in red and blue with 3 gym badges (brocks, mistys and kogas) so u can fight surge with a zapdos 😂
I remember going to Toy's R Us as a kid and waiting in line to get mew. Was a good time
Most secret location in most games is your dad's address
Petalburg gym
The dad isn't around for the same reason you don't see Deku's father in MHA, an unstated cultural thing. You must have seen in anime how one of the usual issues are some main character's parents being transfered to another city, and the kid just staying alone to finish high school or whatever. Same thing, pokemon MC's father probably got transferred to another city, and the mum+MC decided to stay on their hometown to not uproot their life
@@Kurotaisa nah it's clearly because they didn't come back from war hahahah🥴
I could watch these secret/strange location videos all day.
I’m so glad you like it!😭
The removal of HMs is definitely the downfall of secret areas and as one of seven HM fans I will allow myself to yell at HM haters just this one time
Edit: People will make 27 compromises to make HMs "better" rather than admit that they think HMs suck. It's not inherently bad to be in a majority bruh, just own it
It's very brave to voice such an unpopular opinion. I respect it.
You are an icon for minority representation. Please continue to speak your truth and maybe one day the world might come to understand what it is that leads you to your… *ahem*… idiosyncratic point of view.
Yeah, I also miss HMs. I wish they had reworked them instead of removing them entirely. Like, what if instead of taking up a move slot, they were out of battle tools only? Then pokemon could even have more than 4 of them, and they could show up on the pokemon automatically as soon as you unlock the HM. no learning/forgetting/relearning issues to worry about
If you could easily remove hms they would be fine.
Having a pokemon be stuck with Cut forever is s bad
I agree with you. Removing HMs was a mistake. Yes they were tedious but that is what makes it fun. Whenever you went out to a new dungeon you almost had to plan a little expedition making sure you had everything you needed with you. Difficulty and obstacles are what makes things fun. This is the same reason why I dislike the full team exp share as well. Grinding was an integral and fun part of the Pokemon games.
Ive played and beat every game gen 1 thru 6 multiple times since I was five years old in the 90s. Never once seen a shiny but ive been to mirage island twice lol
Insane
That is indeed insane! Ive only seen 2 shinys: Scyther and ryhorn in platinum!
My only shiny was super underwhelming, it was a nincada
If you played second gen your first shiny encounter should have been the red gyarados lol
@@noodlebrains2689 Dude that's a 2 for 1
I totally never knew about the Hidden Grottos in B2/W2 until Chuggaconroy’s LP
17:51 the Sinjo Ruins had an official Arceus event associated with them - the event even specifically made mention of transferring it to HGSS for it!
And fun fact: if you then hack in a Hall of Origin Arceus you can return to the Ruins for a 2nd Creation Trio member, and a bit of new dialouge fron the Hiker iirc
Sweet, doing some busy work right now and needed some nostalgia to listen to while I go on. I always loved the Route 34 ambush, a hidden area near the daycare south of Goldenrod, use surf to swim south towards Azalea Town and you'll find three Swimmers or Beauties who are sunbathing and will lock you into three battles in a row. Can be kinda scary if you're not prepared.
In Gen 5, there's an entire hidden town. If you go to the subway in Nimbasa that hosts the Battle Subway terminals, one of the terminals is a normal subway terminal. You can take it to Anville Town, which is very scenic and hosts the switchyard for the subways. But there's an npc there that'll give the player free EV consumables for making 7-win streaks in the Battle Subway and another npc that'll trade some items on weekends.
Anville town is mentioned in the video.
Fun fact, the amount he gives you increases if you keep reaching a 7 streak (though it maxes out at 10). I deliberately win a 7 streak, go to Anville, see what he's handing out (save before talking to him) and if he is handing out rare candy, I soft reset, battle the subway 9 more times, revisit him and get 10 rare candies.
Small correction: the place where you can find Virizion is still within the actual Pinwheel Forest, close to the exit on the complete opposite end of the one where this outside section is.
Also, the static Volcarona is also in BW1, but it's limited to postgame, while in BW2 the section it is encountered in is locked behind the passage from the PWT-area next to Driftveil, where you can get one quite underleveled.
The specific conditions behind getting the Alakazamite are also not just limited to it, but ALL Megastones that you have to find across the region that aren't just gifted to you, you have to visit Sycamore (after fighting your rival in the postgame-area iirc) at the Sun Dial, he'll give you the ability to see Megastones scattered across the region but only at this specific time. The time-restriction on the Megastones was removed in ORAS iirc.
Also that "super rare cave" in Area Zero where "pretty much only Chansey spawn" is also the only place where Roaring Moon/Iron Valiant spawn, so... they're probably more noteable for that
Thanks!!
18:22 whats not mentioned here is if you send over a hall of origin arceus to HGSS after you do this event once, you can do it again but cynthia wont be present.
I wouldn't say the event islands are obscure or hidden, because you can't access them without the event, a hidden place is somewhere you can get to within normal gameplay but is, well, hidden
I recently went back to my old game cartdriges for the DS games to scavenge legendaries for a living National dex and I was SHOCKED to find out I had no idea how intricate and deep the Clay Tunnel in BW2's post game was
I'd say Seafoam Islands is the most commonly visited secret area in gen 1. You get surf in Fuchsia, and are at the bottom of the town when you beat the gym to use it. So clearly it's pushing you down to use it. And then route 21 is clearly supposed to be so you leave Cinnabar and go to Viridian and then the elite 4. Flying to Pallet and then surfing south to get to Cinnabar feels like the big brain secret itself. Not the intended path.
That being said, articuno itself can easily be missed since a 2nd, optional, out of the way puzzle is needed to get it
I had no idea Yellow had a surfing mini game. Holy crap 😂
It seems this got a lot of people, I actually had thought it was pretty well known, but apparently not!
0:16 I think you mentioned the wrong town there eh? ;)
LMAO WHAT A SILLY MISTAKE
31:10 actually the hidden part of of BDSP is the story campaign. If you want to fill out the map of the underground and participate in mining it takes up much more gameplay time than the actual game
I think a bit part of what made secret areas so great back in the early gens was because the map was fully 2D with tiles. After Gen 4 when they started transitioning towards 2.5D and full 3D is that the games start getting less of those locations as it was diffcul to include them into the mesh or making them appealing when previously you could design a sort of micro dungeon by moving a few tiles here and there and slapping some obstacles.
It also makes me think how cool would be to have an "old school pokemon" kind of monster collecting game that goes back to 2D sprites and tiles.
@8:38 you are so Canadian 😂 “oat of the water”. Thanks for the games and content smith !
I'm surprised the Celebi hidden event and the cave where you can meet Giovanni in HGSS didn't make the cut. The Giovanni fight and Team Rocket and Silver's backstory are one of the more interesting lore pieces of the games
Holy crap, Patrick!! It's been years man, I remember you deciding to take a break. Really glad to see you on my feed and I hope you're doing better now ☀️
I think the Stark Mountain sequence from Platinum deserves a mention. "Secret" not so much, but treacherous to get to, and unlocking Heatran required two trips.
Every time Smith finishes a line of dialogue he looks back at his monitor for the next line and then it cuts and now I can’t stop noticing
Thank you. It's my day off and I was just looking for a video to watch while I have my coffee and play videogames. Couldn't find anything and then this popped up
Truly the best feeling. Enjoy my friend :)
You forgot about the hidden radio room in the Tohjo Falls in gen 4
7:05 I'll always remember this spot because it's where I found my very first shiny, a Jigglypuff! My cousin told me about that hidden spot and after I caught a normal Jigglypuff I was leaving the grass and encountered the shiny one! Unfortunately I lost that cartridge but I've thought about reclaiming it someday!
I got most of the major event distributions for Platinum back in the day - Rotom, Shaymin, Darkrai, and the Lv 100 Arceus - so I'm proud to say that I have seen most of Gen 4's secrets legitimately, including the Sinjoh Ruins.
The interesting thing about the Sinjoh ruins is that both the Hall of Origin and the event distribution Arceus activate the event, and using one and then the other will REACTIVATE the event, which two event or two HoO Arceus cannot do. The second trip is even unique because Cynthia will not be there, and you just go to the Mystri Stage yourself and can get a second Creation legendary. It’s also the only way to get a Griseous Orb in HGSS since a Pokemon holding one in Platinum can’t be traded
Out of curiosity: I recall you mention that you've never played Platinum. When you have to discuss content from that game in your videos, do you usually have another member of your team research those parts for you or do you look into it yourself with wiki information and all?
You got it! Craig covers it for me! Although, I've played BDSP a fair number of times, so it's not like I'm totally aloof to SInnoh. I still haven't played Platinum, however, because I want to make a video on my first time playing it :)
@@smithplayspokemonI played platnium for the first time a few weeks ago. It's up there with HGSS, BW2 and emerald as being the best.
@@jazzercise300 The fact Platinum, HGSS, BW, & BW2 came out within the span of 4 years is genuinely insane
@@graysonbogert5288 the golden era, although I wasn't a fan of BW
@@smithplayspokemonOh, cool. I'll be looking forward to that. ^^
There's another secret area in Castellia sewers. You can access it in a certain season and you can find a rock band there.
The magic of playing the old games was that there wasn't really any internet and rumours would be passed like legends amongst the kids in the playground and between friends about these secret places and hidden pokemon.
Just wanted to mention that the dive area in the shipwreck in Emerald is there for the deepseatooth/scale! In emerald legacy clamperl is put in early. Sadly we cant evolve it early due to these items being locked after dive :(
In Union Cave there's also Cooltrainer Nick. You know, the one winning the Bug Catching Contest most of the time. I was really wondering where he was located because the other trainers in the contest are encountered in the game
The lake by Professor Magnolia's house is also where you can find a Prism Scale and if you fish, you can rarely find Feebas
One of my most beloved memories was discovering the Sealed Chamber in Sapphire. It was pre Internet being really widespread, plus I was a kid and didn’t even think to look it up. All I had was the guide book that gave me what each Braille letter meant but slowly putting that puzzle together was such an amazing feeling that you can’t really get anymore
Reoccuring items are great that you never feel bad discovering once and never again.
I understand the "its part of the story mentality" and you did hint to it in some way but i lived in sapphire, played many hours, multiple playthroughs, and never knew about sky pillar for a year. I understand that internet killed many secrets today but that was my magical moment. As well as discovering giratina in diamond. Same situation but that was because a third legendary before that third game entry wasnt a staple at that time. So those were my favourite surprise to discover.
My favorite secret is that Captain Illima has a secret dialogue for you if you do his trial without equipping any Z-moves
Am sure someone mentioned this already but couldn't find it scrolling comments; The Sinjoh ruins was accessible with out cheats using an event distributed Arceus as the first legitimate way to obtain one
Ahhh okay interesting!
In Gen 3 you forget about a few things.
Secund part of the sevi islands and in emerald the Kyogre and Groudon locations
He didn't mention the alley ( 20:15 ) in castelia city, this is really rare and kinda cool
I didn't find information in bulbapedia but on serebii there is a bit of information. As well as videos of how to get there.
23:15 "They always contain either a rare item"
>Potion
>Repel
😢
😮💨
12:48 i never heard of or seen the ironworks until finding it just last year. Felt like I discovered a real secret but knew it wasnt one
Wow, this is a great video. Some of these areas I did know about, some I definitely did not. This kind of content is what keeps the fandom alive and thriving!
What I’ve since realized is how amazing it was that as a young kid how absurd/unlikely it was that I somehow came upon Mirage Island. Until recently I had no clue the actual parameters for having it appear, and I’m shocked lol. Too bad there’s nothing super interesting on it!
In Gen 2, I also like the whole area around the Lake of Rage... I believe this was leftover from a time that another full town was planned to be up there apart from Blackthorn, but it still felt special the first time I found it.
I honestly miss Pokémon’s 2D era of mystery gifts. So many times it unlocked a preprogrammed thing that was so cool!
Theres also a location in hgss to obtain groudon , kyogre depending on the version of the game i think? aswell as rayquaza
In castelia sewers you can also find a hidden alley with 3 trainers
The truck in R/B/G was designed to hide Pikablu actually but he was cut. He was put back in the game of course, just not there.
5:20 genius useage of the limitations they had, I love it
I think mentionable might have been the secret locations in the water/at some cliffs in Emerald which are empty first, but if you beat the Pokemon League you can backtrack to the weather institute where some guys tell you there is harsh sunlight/strong rain on a specific route. So if you visit said route, there is a diving spot (or an entrance in the cliff) which wasn't there before, and these are the spots where you can catch Kyogre and Groudon on lv 70 😎
I remember exploring Seafoam island the first time and getting so lost. Finally realized I had a dugtrio with dog to escape after a very long time.
When I played through Yellow for the first time, I had a glimpse of the Power Plant's existence by looking at the Town Map. I saw that house with the Pikachu south from Fuschia City, but had no idea I could play a Surf minigame with a Pikachu, but I didn't have one that knew Surf, so I never got to play the minigame until I got the Virtual Console version.
It should be mentioned that obtaining the Giratina egg from the Sinjoh Ruins is the only way to obtain the Griseous Orb, thus Giratina's Origin Form, in HGSS, because it cannot be held by a Pokémon when you go trade in gen 4.
I should note that while you can obtain Eevee in BW2, you cannot make it evolve into Glaceon or Leafeon until post-game because the rocks required for these evolutions are located in post-game areas.
The Liberty Garden can be accessed to in BW2, but Victini isn't there.
5:17 That fucking hole in the fence drove me insane because I could see the gap in the trees over the fence, but official artwork of Johto at the time showed what looked like a thin path connecting Olivine City or Route 39 to that side of the National park, so that's where I spent forever looking. I didn't notice the hole in the fence on the other side of the park until years later
Idk why I’m watching this when I went to every possible tile in every Pokemon game
A little Note from me. In Pokemon Platin. after the Elite 4 you can get your own Villa. And behind it is a Pond. you can just catch Karpador in it. Usless right? NO! bc depending on the fishing-Rod u use the Karpador has a different LVL. My highest was at a whopping LVL 97!
Sun and moon also have the alter of sunne and moone where you can bring Nebby to meet the opposite box legendary to create a new Cosmog
Even to this date, Pokemon games still amazes me when it comes to game secrets.
Gran Turismo 3 and 4 are their series' peak (like Pokémon Platinum and BW), but i had no idea an ost has been released
In Gen 4, it was also possible to get Arceus through distribution. That's how I got mine, and thanks to that I was able to see the Sinjoh Ruins.
The azure flute was never distributed out though. It wasn’t til bsdp that the flute was distributed
I’ve been to mirage island. I had some great luck as a kid playing emerald. Even got my first full odds shiny just running around meteor falls. Had no idea what it was, but to this day I still have my pink crobat from emerald
The secret bar in Tokyo run by a debugger for the original Pokemon games has a neat easter egg related to one of these locations.
So what you're saying is that you need to make more Legacy games to make all the hidden areas in gen 4 and 5 accessible for everyone, right? 👀
The foreshadowing of future games and or future pokemon was insane back then
for me, it's the ruin of alphs when you finish the sliding panels puzzle. i legit bolted out of the house, barefooted, looking for my brother because i found a secret place after I finished the puzzle.
personally I love hour long pokemon videos, they're my fav! but its understandable u had to cut back on some of the locations.
I also feel bad how the older games had more secrets and better implemented than the newer games 😢
I actually thought getting Lugia will be part of the story and when I completed the Johto League, I was disappointed that I didn't get Lugia and accepted it because I still had a pokemon journey. Then when I revisited whirlpool islands one day, I reached an area of whirpool islands and found Lugia. I learnt an important life lesson at the age of 7 or 8 and got my Lugia. I was hoping to replicate thst for Soulsilver but they made finding Lugia part of the story.
I remember Red's first battle in Silver, got swept by Pikachu. 😂 Wasn't expecting that
Concerning Pokemon Yellow, I didn't know for years about the surf mini-game because Pikachu can't learn Surf without the help of an "action replay" device.
Or pokemon stadium
completing the ruins of alph without a strategy guide in crystal back in the day legitimately made me throw my gameboy once or twice
The Azure Flute was never released outside of Japan because they thought it was too complicated.
Hey Pat, just got this channel recommended to me. I don’t even really play Pokémon, but I used to watch all your videos on TSP back in BO2/BO3 days. I was in middle and high school then. Cool to hear your voice again, and glad you’re still making vids bro. Still remember the legendary TranZit rant lol. Just wanted to say hey. Thanks for everything man
Never realized til now that THAT is where you find gible! Damn it!! I was trying to farm the area of grass under the bridge for so long as a kid!!
I remember I couldn’t afford pokemon emerald when it came out and my parents wouldn’t buy it for me, so I found out about emulators. The thing is though, emulation was fairly new esp when we were still in the gba era. So while emulation existed, a lot of roms did not. Especially not English roms as America was just a bit behind in terms of pc gaming. So I found a Japanese rom of emerald and I played it all the way to the point of the 6th or 7th badge. I didn’t understand anything but I loved it. It was so cool coming from a gameboy color to see full color on a pokemon game. The only reason I didn’t finish is because the game got to that point where you have to fight team magma and aqua but since I couldn’t read Japanese, I had no idea what I was supposed to do. Didn’t even know team aqua and magma were enemies lol. But when the pod of wailmers block your path from going out into the open ocean… that’s where I got stuck. I even got my mom, who can read Japanese characters individually (like a child) but not really can understand (she’s Korean) to help me figure out what I’m supposed to do but all she could do was read my name. She had no idea what even game I was playing as pokemon was sorta still finding footing in Texas.
volcarona was definitely in black and white 1
Sinnoh also had a ton of backtrackable hidden rock climb areas!
Both of my "true" shinies, meaning walking around and finding a shiny by accident, not shiny hunting, were tentacools. I know, not great. But whats great is how i found them: one in silver, the other in soul silver. And i was exiting the daycare south of goldenrod and decided to get the soft sand. As soon as i got into the water BOOM, shiny tentacool
that Chansey Cave in Area Zero is also where you catch Roaring Moon in Scarlet
I think what's funny is that I actually had mirage island spawn on a random playthrough of emerald I did as a teen and I didn't even realize until later that it was obscenely rare
That’s insanely lucky!
A secret area in sv that ypu shpuldve included
In kitakami, at the crystal pool there is a rock with a small cave entrance in it
That cave leads straight downnall thw way through the mountain
There are some items there abd a very powerful trainer to fight, and at the bottom of the whole is a small cave where you can find swinub
Thats the ibly area in kitakami to get swinub, and while you may find the area, you wont be able to enter the secret tunnel leading to it since you drop into that cave from the ceiling
6:05 Um, excuse me? Why is there a Pokemon standing next to Red? Don't tell me there's an easter egg I don't know about.
Commenting to get answers
Sorry, that was gameplay from the Crystal romhack we made😆