@@captainforestI watch all of your videos one piece of advice is you should definitely show feats like you do but you just skipped over why colossus has the speed he has you need to prove it people will downplay your videos if you don't.
I don't think their is an actual comic where Colossus and she hulk fight . However I have a comic where The Thing one shots Colossus when he is looking for a job with the Fantastic Four.
Colossus has durability. She hulk has regeneration and likewise very good durability. Colossus has often been used as a stooge, like when he got handled quickly by champion, who wasnt even really trying to end the fights because thats his fun. Or when he turned against the team as the proletariat. Its kind of a bummer because i grew up in the "xmen rennaisance" (94-150) and colossus was cool to me. He could win almost any fight but he wouldnt want to have to. He worked really hard. He was very young, so who knows how powerful he would get to be? I hope that they find a good theme for him and dont leave him in a hole. Make mine Marvel! :)
And going by the site marvel fandom database Hulk, she-hulk, colossus and Thor are all tied at 100+ tons. while Ms. Marvel in her black outfit can only lift 70 tons
@@manofsteel3396 The only way he beat her, Is when he guilt tripped her, Then knocked her across the state In immoral Hulk! Even Reed Richard's said she had the potential to be as strong as him!
Note that Silver Surfer was severely depowered during his original series. In the previous issue, he stated of The Monster of Badoon, 'Once I would have felled you with a shrug!'
Don't get me wrong Colossus is one of my favorite heroes in Marvel but the only reason he beat Wendigo was because Wendigo is mystical in nature and like most mystical creatures and beings their weakness is cold iron and Colossus whole form is a version of cold iron.
I don't put a lot of stock in "feats", feats are basically given to characters who are the most popular, sell the most books, etc. I don't ignore them but I tend not to depend on them as much as some others may. That said, I kind of agree with this one. The Hulk family has one trait that tends to be a great advantage for them; they just keep getting stronger. The longer the fight goes the stronger She-Hulk will get. Colossus does have an advantage, he's made of organic metal and a lot of moves just don't work on the guy because his body doesn't bend like a flesh body does. Knocking the air out of him for example would prove difficult. I mean, it's too evenly matched at first. But as the fight carries out, she just gets stronger, so yeah She-Hulk.
Yeah ummm colossus wins this He performed way better than Jen did when they fought wwh as Jen got one shotted while colossus took multiple hits Also Jen lost the boost she got from the celestial Amp during the 2018 avengers run putting her back at her base levels Colossus has also matched vision Destroyed nimrod that had adopted to the likes of namor, Firestar and other xmen Even In current comics he's k!lled his brother
Colossus has always been my favorite character from marvel ever since I was a youngster and I am going on 53 but even though he is my favorite character, you're theory definitely makes sense. I would have to say she would win too...
@davemurdock4840 Colossus is my fave too! But I have to agree--She-Hulk takes this mostly because Pete usually just doesn't have the fighting spirit it would take to beat her. If she went all out, she'd leave him stomped into the dirt like a crumpled tin can I'm afraid....
So I have question if we do no amped (so her base form) she hulk(when she isn’t buff and looks like hulk) would you say colossus beats her because of his non amped self having better feats?
@@captainforestinteresting I thought personally due to juggernaut scaling their more equal in strength but I understand where your coming from but personally I see that was an amp she hulk(due to her not being in her slim form)vs captain marvel feat that you showed would you agree or no
green scar defeated sentry while holding back and sentry was all out also he was stable stated by writer greg pak himself in interview. he stated he wrote every character in world war hulk as strong as they are no character been nerfed in comic. ıts also stated in continue of greg pak's run in issue hulk 611 "hulk defeated sentry,blackbolt,dr.strange avengers and f4"
One of She-Hulk's craziest powers is being able to effect the comic story itself and communicate with the reader. No other character I know of has this strange power.
You were doing great until you started looking at modern comics. 🤦♂️ modern comics have no consistency at all. Especially if you take Thor serious that Colossus is comparable to an elder mountain troll. Modern writers suck. They don't repect the characters and they degrade them.
Enjoyed the video and I’m a new subscriber. Could you do some vs videos on these match ups? Magneto vs graviton Bebop vs rocksteady Apocalypse vs doom “no prep” Magneto vs sinister Classic exodus vs juggernaut
So She-Hulk can survive in very extreme cold environment, but the Mighty Thor, the God of Thunder himself, can't? Those writers are out of their minds. Marvel Comic's used to make sense, but that time is long gone. Today, women's are stronger than any men, and we just have to accept, and it doesn't matter if it makes sense or not.
Thor, and 9:20 Hercules hold back when fighting mortals, Hulk bunch Ms. Marvel into space after she sounded on Hulk, he laughed it off, the Thing has proven to be stronger than Colouss and Hulk, Thor, and Hercules hold back against Ben
Hulk was holding back on colossus, if you read the comic hulk says “you would have been a decent opponent for me back then” then proceeded to body colossus. Btw she hulk broke the hulks nose but of course you want to ignore things that dont fit your narrative. Plus current she hulk has better feats and statements in comparison to colossus.
How? Even if he wasn’t weakened he would stand no chance anyway. He wasn’t weakened when he faced green scar hulk and savage hulk but was no match for hulk so i dunno whatbl where you’re going with this point
@@captainforest weirdly defensive, tf? I'd need to revisit the specifics, but Colossus was weakened in his fight with Thor, which helps validate his poor speed claim in the showing. Though Thor should have mopped him anyway. At no point was this single aspect a debunk/expose jab, nor do I feel it needed to be taken as such. It obviously does not change the outcome due to consistency backing She-Hulk anyway. Not everyone in your comments is coming for you. I just wanted to include that there is additional content since Thor's claim is heavily used to downplay Colossus as a whole.
She-Hulk is not as powerful as her cousin. I don't see these two fighting for long. Jen would end up kissing him, and then they would make a sex earthquake. 😆
World War Hulk said Colossus is now as powerful as Savage Hulk. She-Hulk is powerful, but Colossus is better fighter than Jennifer. Colossus would win.
this is way too easy. this comes down to durability. i'll put it like this, lots of ways to kill collossus, laser beams, missles, rail gun, bombs. although i'd say they're pretty much equal in strength. of course she hulk wins
Your probably right about the outcome but I notice in your videos you spend a lot time talking about a bunch of different characters it's confusing and hard to follow
This is dumb!! The classic she hulk doesn't get stronger the madder she gets! Colossus would beat she hulk hands down. Sounds like some old feminist bs if you tell me. Colossus is in the 100 class she hulk is in the 75 class. Stop the insanity! You do know this why Disney is losing. WAKE UP!!!
Alot of what this guy said didn't make sense. I wouldn't put too much stock into in his outcome as his "analysis" and comparisons are all over the place and lack consistency. He's essentially just listing stuff he's seen in stories that have no relation to who would win in a fight beween Colossus and She- Hulk. I mean what does him training sunspot have to do with anything?? Just so, so much unnecesary waffle here and pulling at threads. Guy really needs to work on his presentation because this, this was not it.
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People shit on colossus too much
Colossus is cool
@@captainforestI watch all of your videos one piece of advice is you should definitely show feats like you do but you just skipped over why colossus has the speed he has you need to prove it people will downplay your videos if you don't.
@@captainforestGreat video and scaling my bro putting from boundless layers into extraversal levels multiple layers into it
@@captainforestAnd she walk as well bro in the extraversal levels multiple layers into it
He's a 3x traitor. Beneath all that armor is a coward
I don't think their is an actual comic where Colossus and she hulk fight . However I have a comic where The Thing one shots Colossus when he is looking for a job with the Fantastic Four.
Colossus and She Hulk should be evenly matched in strength.
no she hulk is stronger. much stronger
Trained by Cyclops in the 1970s. So was Storm, Nightcrawler. Wolverine & Banshee already had hand to hand training in their previous line of work.
Colossus has durability. She hulk has regeneration and likewise very good durability. Colossus has often been used as a stooge, like when he got handled quickly by champion, who wasnt even really trying to end the fights because thats his fun. Or when he turned against the team as the proletariat. Its kind of a bummer because i grew up in the "xmen rennaisance" (94-150) and colossus was cool to me. He could win almost any fight but he wouldnt want to have to. He worked really hard. He was very young, so who knows how powerful he would get to be? I hope that they find a good theme for him and dont leave him in a hole.
Make mine Marvel! :)
And going by the site marvel fandom database Hulk, she-hulk, colossus and Thor are all tied at 100+ tons. while Ms. Marvel in her black outfit can only lift 70 tons
Colossus hands down! He edges classic She Hulk in strength, and durability. She would get some good shots in though!
People forget Jen has the potential to be as powerful as her cousin!
@@darrylblackshear710 No way! Savage Hulk stomps Savage She-Hulk easily! That would be poor writing!
@@manofsteel3396 The only way he beat her, Is when he guilt tripped her, Then knocked her across the state In immoral Hulk! Even Reed Richard's said she had the potential to be as strong as him!
@@darrylblackshear710 Poor writing!
@@manofsteel3396 Gamma people always kicks other heroes asses! Red Hulk anyone?
If she can mess with the plot and Ball up page that's basically fourth wall breaking and the fact that she can interact with it as well she wins 😂
I mean, Deadpool fourth wall, breaking all the time but he still gets his ass whooped by the Hulk pretty much all the time😂💀
"That's how we do it in mother Russia!"
That line is still hilarious 😂
Love Pete, not sure she can "punch holes through him," but yeah, She-Huk totally turns him into a "metal pretzel" for sure...
Colossus is a much better boxer and outright better fighter.
Colossus is great his vulnerability is vibranium whether it's Antarctic vibranium or wakanda vibranium it says come back into his organic state
“Metal pretzel”? Shoulda called it a cheese grater
Note that Silver Surfer was severely depowered during his original series. In the previous issue, he stated of The Monster of Badoon, 'Once I would have felled you with a shrug!'
In the Ultimates comics Colossus was beating the crap out of Thor. Ironman had to use a mini nuclear bomb to stop him.
Don't get me wrong Colossus is one of my favorite heroes in Marvel but the only reason he beat Wendigo was because Wendigo is mystical in nature and like most mystical creatures and beings their weakness is cold iron and Colossus whole form is a version of cold iron.
Yo you did it let’s goooo
I don't put a lot of stock in "feats", feats are basically given to characters who are the most popular, sell the most books, etc. I don't ignore them but I tend not to depend on them as much as some others may. That said, I kind of agree with this one. The Hulk family has one trait that tends to be a great advantage for them; they just keep getting stronger. The longer the fight goes the stronger She-Hulk will get. Colossus does have an advantage, he's made of organic metal and a lot of moves just don't work on the guy because his body doesn't bend like a flesh body does. Knocking the air out of him for example would prove difficult.
I mean, it's too evenly matched at first. But as the fight carries out, she just gets stronger, so yeah She-Hulk.
Yeah ummm colossus wins this
He performed way better than Jen did when they fought wwh as Jen got one shotted while colossus took multiple hits
Also Jen lost the boost she got from the celestial Amp during the 2018 avengers run putting her back at her base levels
Colossus has also matched vision
Destroyed nimrod that had adopted to the likes of namor, Firestar and other xmen
Even In current comics he's k!lled his brother
@@bowman9778 👀👀 wdym by that
Colossus has always been my favorite character from marvel ever since I was a youngster and I am going on 53 but even though he is my favorite character, you're theory definitely makes sense. I would have to say she would win too...
@davemurdock4840 Colossus is my fave too! But I have to agree--She-Hulk takes this mostly because Pete usually just doesn't have the fighting spirit it would take to beat her. If she went all out, she'd leave him stomped into the dirt like a crumpled tin can I'm afraid....
So I have question if we do no amped (so her base form) she hulk(when she isn’t buff and looks like hulk) would you say colossus beats her because of his non amped self having better feats?
Even if we dont take into account her hulk amp, her feats alone are far more impressive in comparison to colossus unfortunately
@@captainforestinteresting I thought personally due to juggernaut scaling their more equal in strength but I understand where your coming from but personally I see that was an amp she hulk(due to her not being in her slim form)vs captain marvel feat that you showed would you agree or no
green scar defeated sentry while holding back and sentry was all out also he was stable stated by writer greg pak himself in interview. he stated he wrote every character in world war hulk as strong as they are no character been nerfed in comic. ıts also stated in continue of greg pak's run in issue hulk 611 "hulk defeated sentry,blackbolt,dr.strange avengers and f4"
One of She-Hulk's craziest powers is being able to effect the comic story itself and communicate with the reader. No other character I know of has this strange power.
You were doing great until you started looking at modern comics. 🤦♂️ modern comics have no consistency at all. Especially if you take Thor serious that Colossus is comparable to an elder mountain troll. Modern writers suck. They don't repect the characters and they degrade them.
Enjoyed the video and I’m a new subscriber.
Could you do some vs videos on these match ups?
Magneto vs graviton
Bebop vs rocksteady
Apocalypse vs doom “no prep”
Magneto vs sinister
Classic exodus vs juggernaut
I like she hulk she's a amazing character and she's strong too and unity power
And one more question do you take peoples discords if so I would like to discuss some scaling with you and see your opinions on it
I don’t sorry
pretty sure She'Hulk is much stronger than Colossus
“So you’re saying there’s a chance?”
I'm speechless
I totally agree with you bro she would take it low to medium difficulty
So She-Hulk can survive in very extreme cold environment, but the Mighty Thor, the God of Thunder himself, can't?
Those writers are out of their minds.
Marvel Comic's used to make sense, but that time is long gone.
Today, women's are stronger than any men, and we just have to accept, and it doesn't matter if it makes sense or not.
black panther vs soldier boy
Thor, and 9:20 Hercules hold back when fighting mortals, Hulk bunch Ms. Marvel into space after she sounded on Hulk, he laughed it off, the Thing has proven to be stronger than Colouss and Hulk, Thor, and Hercules hold back against Ben
Her losing to hulk happened in 2012. She beats thor in 2019-2020, so she got stronger from then but nice try.
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World War Hulk one shot she-hulk. But World War Hulk needed to bent Colossus hand for stop him.
Hulk was holding back on colossus, if you read the comic hulk says “you would have been a decent opponent for me back then” then proceeded to body colossus. Btw she hulk broke the hulks nose but of course you want to ignore things that dont fit your narrative. Plus current she hulk has better feats and statements in comparison to colossus.
@@captainforest you suck
You just can't read💀@@SirDragonX
15:45 wasn’t Colossus weakened here?
How? Even if he wasn’t weakened he would stand no chance anyway. He wasn’t weakened when he faced green scar hulk and savage hulk but was no match for hulk so i dunno whatbl where you’re going with this point
@@captainforest weirdly defensive, tf?
I'd need to revisit the specifics, but Colossus was weakened in his fight with Thor, which helps validate his poor speed claim in the showing. Though Thor should have mopped him anyway.
At no point was this single aspect a debunk/expose jab, nor do I feel it needed to be taken as such. It obviously does not change the outcome due to consistency backing She-Hulk anyway.
Not everyone in your comments is coming for you. I just wanted to include that there is additional content since Thor's claim is heavily used to downplay Colossus as a whole.
Colossus vs Pit
now do Colossus vs Luke Cage 😎
@IStevenSeagal Voce usar lista de hierarquia na Marvel em 2024 é semelhante a usar vela ao invés de energia elétrica.
@IStevenSeagalColossus is way stronger but you be lying Luke cage is in Spider-man’s class he’s not on the same level as the thing and She-hulk
She-Hulk is not as powerful as her cousin. I don't see these two fighting for long. Jen would end up kissing him, and then they would make a sex earthquake. 😆
Juggernaut wants a piece of that
Two difference Hyperion you're showing here
World War Hulk said Colossus is now as powerful as Savage Hulk. She-Hulk is powerful, but Colossus is better fighter than Jennifer. Colossus would win.
What comic did he claim that?
@@captainforest The World War Hulk vs. X-Men books. Afterwards, he said that Colossus isn't close to what he is now.
I don’t know bro I feel colossus is much weaker then the hulk, like he’s gotta be star level or solar system level at best.
this is way too easy. this comes down to durability. i'll put it like this, lots of ways to kill collossus, laser beams, missles, rail gun, bombs. although i'd say they're pretty much equal in strength. of course she hulk wins
7 out 10 for lady green
Your probably right about the outcome
but I notice in your videos you spend a lot time talking about a bunch of different characters
it's confusing and hard to follow
Chain scaling is important, as it gives us an idea of where characters would be placed
That fight with She-Hulk and the Champion was ass. She could have worked out for a decade and not beaten him. Hated that story.
This is dumb!! The classic she hulk doesn't get stronger the madder she gets! Colossus would beat she hulk hands down. Sounds like some old feminist bs if you tell me. Colossus is in the 100 class she hulk is in the 75 class. Stop the insanity! You do know this why Disney is losing. WAKE UP!!!
Facts don’t care about your feelings.
Alot of what this guy said didn't make sense. I wouldn't put too much stock into in his outcome as his "analysis" and comparisons are all over the place and lack consistency. He's essentially just listing stuff he's seen in stories that have no relation to who would win in a fight beween Colossus and She- Hulk. I mean what does him training sunspot have to do with anything??
Just so, so much unnecesary waffle here and pulling at threads. Guy really needs to work on his presentation because this, this was not it.
Colossus already beat her! Ragged dolls her! But Captain Forest is probably WOKE!
No she don't get stronger as she gets mad thats green hulks top power only he has that power
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Captain marvel is not that strong. Weaker than she-hulk.
Cope
Keep crying.
Captain marvel is stronger than She-hulk