I like the lion,but its hard to play.But the British line has weak protection,but in reality there ships where well protected overall WG needs to buff them some,she does start fires good for me..Great video terry.
For me, the main issue is that she's too dependent on the enemy team making mistakes. Now, it's true that she certainly doesn't match my style, since I'm generally an aggressive player who needs a ship that can adjust to different situations, which means over-specialised ships can come off worse. But there's still a scale between "doesn't always work" and "needs some luck to work". Of course, that doesn't mean you're not allowed to like them, and I'm more than happy for someone to enjoy a ship that I don't particularly do - it's more of the "is it suitable for a general playerbase" that I'm looking for 😁 Although I do have to admit that this was painful 🤣
@@FunandGameswithTerry Terry I do agree she is painful.she forces me to pay more attention to map placement and other things.Ships like lion and drake force u to grow and have alittle luck happen.but it is painful and i understand why she isn't loved and thats ok
Terry, the main reason of you eating huge chunks of AP damage is because Lion's aft turret has a really bad clearance angle, so literally when you turn to fire all your guns, you are showing full broadside at the enemy as well. Try kiting away in this ship next time. Also, I don't think turret traverse mod is necessary. Yes, 4.5 deg/s is a little bit frustrating, but judging by the fact you won't be brawling at point blank anyway, 4.5 deg/s is enough. Even Ohio and Thunderer have 4.5 deg/s turret traverse, but u rarely see anyone run turret traverse on them. Honestly, the entire British BB line revolves around the clever use of concealment, positioning, and ammunition choice. It does reward you when played right.
Yaay, ich habe den Code bekommen. Ich habe drei Minuten lang RUclips dauerhaft neugeladen bis dein Video da war und bei jedem größeren Bildwechsel alles genau analysiert und begutachtet. Gut der der EU Code der erste war, dann kann den Rest der Woche Stressfrei gucken Danke für die 1000 Gold Terry Für die, die es interessiert, der Code war der Name der Bot-Wichita am Endscreen der 2. Runde
I grinded through Monarch, and bought the Lion about 2 years ago. It didn't take long before I sold it and decided to give up on this line. It makes no sense to me that WG-ing wouldn't at least give this ship _some_ strengths to compensate for it's many weaknesses. Are accurate guns too much to ask? Oy vey.....
The French niche works, because they're fast and have frightening burst dps. But this line is somewhat dependent on damage over time (which reduces the strike capability - you don't ambush someone when you can't be sure to take them on), leaving them as long-range HE spammers. You could argue that they're good against DDs, but honestly, you could use any of the RRs, like USN main or French, load the HE, and do mostly the same. Of course, the Italians have made them obsolete in that regard. And if I wanted to play an HE spammer at high tiers, I'd get a Seattle, or something Soviet, or a gunboat DD, but not something that relies on RNG to work, and has no way to survive the return fire mostly intact. It's in the same place like the CAs - a ship looking for a role, and for everything, there's simply a better choice.
As a decent, if not expertised RN BB player, I would say that if you push with them you will most likely always be having a hard time. One tricky thing about British BB line is that you need to discern when to switch between shells. It never works well if you only stick to one shell type (i.e. the super HE). That's why it is tricky playing RN BBs. I am on monarch so far and would be averaging 55k damage (120ish games) with a 1.8 killing ratio (I push, that's why it's that low). My win rate is pretty low tho (45ish) but I am often the Battlestar of the team (maybe every other game or once every three games). BTW, I can get consistent citadel with monarch APs (at least 1 per game, up to 8 occasionlly). You might want to work on aiming I know it is really tricky but usually just aim lower instead of higher, and don't lead too much since hitting the stern usually gets you citadels.
This does remind me of that time my Vermont managed to almost delete a full HP Lion with 4 citadels from close range. I was like, oh, is this another Amagi?
Ich muss ja sagen, dass WGs neuste Art, über Events Schiffe und Zeug unter die Spieler zu bringen, diesmal gut gelungen ist. Diese persönlichen Herausforderungen haben mir sehr viel Spaß gemacht udn sind absolut machbar in der Zeit. Besonders, weil man nicht gewinnen muss, sondern gute Ergebnisse reichen (gucke auf die durchschnittlichen Mates) Helena Review als nächstes?
Findest du, find ich gar nicht 🤣🤣 find die Idee super, aber 3 Tage für über 60 Schlachten ist schon heavy. Rechne mal mit 10 min mit suchen und Schlacht, dann sind's halt 600 Minuten, 10h, also 3 pro Tag. 200 Punkte musst du 38 Mal erreichen und für die restlichen 17 Punkte 17 Mal 400. Vorausgesetzt du hast so viele Schiffe, hast du viel weniger musst du bei einigen über 1000 Punkte erreichen, also gut und gerne 2 Mal spielen und 2 Punkte kriegst du erst auf der letzten Stufe.
@Linus man hat 5Tage Zeit und braucht max 55 Spiele, ich finde es absolut okay. Klar wer nur begrenzt Schiffe hat oder nur 5 Spiele am Tag macht, da wird das leider nichts.😂 die Events sind nun mal auf viel spielen ausgelegt. 🤗
@@Bis_Lin nein mindestens 55 Spiele, na dann lass es 5 tage sein. 60 spiele, sind halt trz 12 Spiele am Tag, also gute 1,5h, das ist halt schon happig, die Zeit hat nicht jeder und die Belohnungen sind dafür dann eher mau
Ich versuche gar nicht erst, bei solchen Events etwas zu erreichen, weil ich schon vorher weiß, dass ich nicht die Zeit dafür habe. Das ändert aber nicht unbedingt was daran, dass sie die doch schon unrealistischen Anforderungen gelockert haben. Für mich gibt es zwei hauptsächliche Klassen von Spielern - die die Geld, aber keine Zeit haben, und die, die Zeit, aber kein Geld haben. Natürlich immer was dazwischen, aber ich z.B. bin fest in der ersten - alle Freizeit, die ich habe, geht für RUclips drauf. Somit habe ich mich schon darauf eingestellt, Schiffe im besten Fall aus einem Bündel zu bekommen. Ich hab aber schon von einigen gehört, dass sie die Helena recht schnell bekommen haben. Und ja, sie mussten natürlich das eine Schiff hergeben, von dem ich noch kein Video habe 😂
@Fun and games with Terry its impossible for me as well with this armour i like to be agressive but she dont have armour so for that thanks i go for conqueror directly
You're better off running the dispersion mod in slot 1 since you're mostly playing at range anyway where your turret speed is less of an issue. The HE is good but you will not reliably set fires unless you are at medium range which is suicidal in a British BB due to your lack of armor. You HAVE to utilize your AP with British BBs starting with KGV. They are weak individually but because of your faster reloading guns and rapid reload skill you can rack up damage very quickly with it. Try the historical camo on your press account and see if it helps, I run it on mine (because I'm an anglophile and it looks pretty lol). As for Conqueror, it maneuvers worse than Yamato and has less armor than Republique. But one thing it does very well is raw firepower especially with an APCS captain. (Imagine a Montana with rapid reload 2) the British BBs were utterly neutered by the fire rework a while back. There was a time where I averaged 20 fires and 40k burn damage per game in Lion but those days are long gone and the entire British BB line needs a rework badly
Yea I heard somewhere that Lion had dreadful armor. Wasn't too sure about the dispersion. I knew I saw that dispersion somewhere... Yea I'm on the Monarch and just now, I've figured it out enough to make it work. This thing is going to be one hell of a grind to Conqueror. SAP firing Italian BB's are gonna farm you and get citadels like no tomorrow.
The dispersion isn't great in lower tiers, either. But you can sort of counter that by playing them like battlecruisers. Especially the KGV was amazing like that - compensate for lack of punch by simply getting closer. T8 was a bit more challenging, but kinda still worked sometimes. T9 is a completely different beast. The deck armour is still barely above cruiser level, which means that she takes crazy amounts of damage. At the same time, the ships get larger - many people ignore the impact of size, one reason Odin works so well, she's tiny - and less manoeuvrable. Combined with an increasing need to dodge, because something like Slava can take 20k HP off you in a single salvo, and you can't compensate anymore, because you have to play at range. Some people keep claiming that you can go concealment / ambush. I don't see that happening. In a French BB, absolutely. They have similarly poor armour, but they have speed. This thing needs to be played at range, and it just doesn't work imo. In the end, you rely on the enemy team making mistakes to give you openings, and that's where I think the "good" games come from. For me, a ship needs to be able to create her own opportunities, otherwise there's not much of a point in having a T9 BB that struggles to reach 50k dmg. Sorry for the rant, but that thing was no fun 🤣
@@FunandGameswithTerry The last best dispersion of the British BB line was the Iron Duke in Tier V, and Orion. In Tier VI+, the dispersion was abysmal. That is very true about the King George V, it's also how I played it. But Tier IX, and you still have Tier VII armor, against Vermont, GK, etc., not fun since your ship gets bigger too. No wonder there are extremely rarely any Lion players. The ambush principle on this ship looks good on paper, but I agree, it won't work. You get close to anything, and you'll get farmed, since the AP is also terrible. No problem, I understand. In fact, the opening of the video did give me the same impression as your initial Musashi review, which when I saw the intro, I was like "Yup this ship is dreadful."
You brought back some bad memories of Lion and why I free xp’d past it. Conqueror is decent but still struggles with its bad armor. I have a maxed out normal commander on it with APCS. I do run concealment on it. Anything over 10km, I shoot HE. AP on most everything else under that. The exception to that rule is Kremlin and GK. 8km for the AP on those. The AP is surprisingly punchy at mid range and lower if you have the APCS skill. I don’t recommend it for newer players and rank it close to the bottom of the tier X BB’s.
Lion was supposed to have a 16in Mk II originally, and a Mk IV in the redesign. So the "419mm Mk II" would probably be a hypothetical bored-out version.
What's "CC"? I can only think of CC DeVille, Poison's lead guitarist. I don't think he was nerfed though. But that's probably _not_ the CC you're asking about. 😉
Give it actual deck plating. There's literally no reason for those things to have cruiser armour on the deck. The RN BB gimmick is the high-penetration HE. My guess is that they're trying to replicate the "superheals" from PC, as you can see with the legendary captains, and in combination with premium heals, they can HP tank and approach normal BB capabilities. Again, just guessing here though. But seems from the recent buffs that they don't want to touch that, and with the buffs, it would now probably be too much, so I don't really see anything changing.
@@FunandGameswithTerry Das ist dir bei mir nicht gelungen. Ich schaue aus Prinzip immer alle Namen nach Bekannten Namen durch. Obwohl das bei dir wahrscheinlich nie der Fall sein wird, da du nicht auf EU spielst. Ich hätte damit gerechnet, dass der Code irgentwann für einen kurzen Ausschnitt im Chat zu sehen ist. So als PM
The British BB are very potent but have no armpit anywhere. KGV can be citadel by an American BB without a issue. Also can u do a Review on the American Tier 7 West Virginia. I really wanna know if it is worth getting.
Just completed the grind in this. 44% winrate compared to overall winrate of 60%. This is a tough ship to make work. On to the conquerer. At least she has more guns. 🤷♀️
The intro was enough. The main video was superfluous. Lion is painful. I sold it off in frustration but later when my poor memory kicked in I thought, “naw, it wasn’t that bad”, so I repurchased it. Oh yes, yes it was that bad dummy!
I have up on KGV before the buff, but there are certainly more interesting lines to play. Which is a shame, given how active British BBs were in the war.
I have a theory, it's more a feeling, but I do think, don't blame me for it, it's really more an idea than an opinion, but I do think... You don't like the ship. Just a guess, I'm not sure, I can be wrong, but I think, you don't like it. Would be great if you could made that clear! Great video, great code idea!
Yeah, I really need to clarify that more. Jokes aside, I'm trying to be objective, but in the end, there are ships I get along with, and ships that drive me nuts. Doesn't always mean that they're bad ships per se, but they're generally more niche, and a niche that I don't enjoy. I mostly play solo randoms for testing, because that's what the vast majority is going to experience. I also don't kit them out with all the stuff money can buy, for the same reason. But this thing is a pretty big hurdle for a grind, and I'll have to take a very close look to see if it's worth it.
@@FunandGameswithTerry It's all fine, wouldn't be that interesting, if you wouldn't have an opinion. I don't think, the britisch BBs and Heavy Cruisers work after all these changes... I mean the Incomparable okay, but even the Thunderer struggles. Goliath and Gibraltar are mäh... You'll find just better BBs. A Brawler? Sure, GK DD-Killer? Sure, Colombo Sniper? Sure, Yamato Allrounder with big guns, good AA and good protection against fires and floods? Sure, Vermont Battlecruiser? Sure, Schlieffen And the British BBs seem to be poorly armored, they have okay AA and bad AP, so it's all down to HE, manoeuvrability... But the dispersion is dreadful and it's too slow and huge to be really good at dodging. For my opinion they need a rework, the Italians took the place for being DD-Killers. Maybe you could make them stronger HE-Spammers, if you make the dispersion much better and boost them otherwise.
Yea I agree with you, the Lion is utter garbage. I absolutely despise it. But then again, I’m grinding the Izumo, so I’m sure the Conqueror will be better,
Bin jetzt gerade mit der QE durch und habe die KGV gekauft. Bisher noch ungespielt, muss das Ding nämlich noch ausbauen. Vielleicht lass ich mir da Zeit. Die Linie war bisher nicht wirklich überzeugend und nach der Zumutung an Schiff in diesem Video will ich auch nicht wirklich weiter machen. Kriegen wir die Conq eigentlich maxed (oder zumindest 1 Runde)? Dann könnte man sehen was den möglich wäre, wenn man den meint, Geld investieren zu müssen
Ich teste gerade Conqueror, und so wie es bisher gelaufen ist, wird es wahrscheinlich maxed mit legendärem Modul werden, v.a. da ich Conqueror normal glaube ich schon mal hatte
Lion is my worst WWS blitz experience ever in my 2years playing! Before the buffs on Conqurer it was not worth it…. Now Im starting to accept Conqurer and like her like an far of relativ😉
Nice super video 😍😍😍😍 very enjoyed BRITISH BATTLESHIPS GETTING CITADELLED! I HATE THE FUCKING GAME DEVELOPERS WHO WON'T BUFF WEAKER SHIPS OR BALANCE SHIPS MONEY MINDED IDIOTS. . I'VE PLAYED CONQUEROR MANY MANY TIMES NO WONDER HOW WELL I PLAY I ALWAYS GET CITADELLED...IN REALITY BRITISH BATTLESHIPS HAD ONE OF THE BEST ARMOUR..THESE DEVELOPERS WON'T REALISE... PLEASE THESE SHIPS ALSO NEED LOVE AND SUPPORT LIKE OTHER SHIPS GET ...IN MY OPINION THESE RECENT BUFFS DIDN'T WORK FOR ME.. ANYHOW I REALLY ENJOYED THE VIDEO.. SOME MORE POINTS...REGARDING BUFFS THESE SHOULD FOCUS ON ARMOUR/SURVIVABILITY , OR MAIN OR SECONDARY BATTERY DAMAGE, OR IMPROVING WORST AA . ADDITIONAL REPAIR KIT, OR SKILLS BEEFED UP SHIPS LIKE GROSSE KURFURST AND VERMONTS GET SKILLS BUT WEAKER DONT GET! YOU IDIOT DEVELOPERS, WHAT IS THIS? SKILLS REGARDING SHIPS MUST BE RECONSIDERED...NO ONE PLAYS WITH BRITISH BATTLESHIPS NOW...IF ANYONE PLAYS THEY'RE EASILY DESTROYED ( DUE TO UNSKILLED PLAYERS/ MULTI TARGETED )..ONLY ONE THING THAT KEEPS THE BRITISH LINE PLAYABLE IS DARING/ MINOTAUR...HEAVY CRUISERS AND BATTLESHIPS SUCK THESE SHIPS ALSO NEED LOVE LIKE OTHER SHIPS GET PLEASE BUFF THEM . THANK YOU VERY MUCH 🥰❣️
The disappointment is obvious from your voice inflection, together with the sighs, when you start talking. I'm not a fan of the British battleships in the first place, but this was almost too painful to watch. 😮
Sorry. I generally try to at least get a laugh out of a ship, but this was one of the few ships that actually got me frustrated to the point that I had to put the game down.
@@FunandGameswithTerry That tells me enough. 😊 You are always optimistic, and find something positive to say about most ships. Well, you tried. Kudos for you!
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I like the lion,but its hard to play.But the British line has weak protection,but in reality there ships where well protected overall WG needs to buff them some,she does start fires good for me..Great video terry.
For me, the main issue is that she's too dependent on the enemy team making mistakes. Now, it's true that she certainly doesn't match my style, since I'm generally an aggressive player who needs a ship that can adjust to different situations, which means over-specialised ships can come off worse. But there's still a scale between "doesn't always work" and "needs some luck to work". Of course, that doesn't mean you're not allowed to like them, and I'm more than happy for someone to enjoy a ship that I don't particularly do - it's more of the "is it suitable for a general playerbase" that I'm looking for 😁
Although I do have to admit that this was painful 🤣
@@FunandGameswithTerry Terry I do agree she is painful.she forces me to pay more attention to map placement and other things.Ships like lion and drake force u to grow and have alittle luck happen.but it is painful and i understand why she isn't loved and thats ok
Terry, the main reason of you eating huge chunks of AP damage is because Lion's aft turret has a really bad clearance angle, so literally when you turn to fire all your guns, you are showing full broadside at the enemy as well. Try kiting away in this ship next time.
Also, I don't think turret traverse mod is necessary. Yes, 4.5 deg/s is a little bit frustrating, but judging by the fact you won't be brawling at point blank anyway, 4.5 deg/s is enough. Even Ohio and Thunderer have 4.5 deg/s turret traverse, but u rarely see anyone run turret traverse on them.
Honestly, the entire British BB line revolves around the clever use of concealment, positioning, and ammunition choice. It does reward you when played right.
Yaay, ich habe den Code bekommen. Ich habe drei Minuten lang RUclips dauerhaft neugeladen bis dein Video da war und bei jedem größeren Bildwechsel alles genau analysiert und begutachtet. Gut der der EU Code der erste war, dann kann den Rest der Woche Stressfrei gucken
Danke für die 1000 Gold Terry
Für die, die es interessiert, der Code war der Name der Bot-Wichita am Endscreen der 2. Runde
Congratulations 🎉
congratulations! I suspected it would be something like this but I missed it :(
Glückwunsch
Ha, should have known it 😂
I grinded through Monarch, and bought the Lion about 2 years ago. It didn't take long before I sold it and decided to give up on this line. It makes no sense to me that WG-ing wouldn't at least give this ship _some_ strengths to compensate for it's many weaknesses. Are accurate guns too much to ask? Oy vey.....
The French niche works, because they're fast and have frightening burst dps. But this line is somewhat dependent on damage over time (which reduces the strike capability - you don't ambush someone when you can't be sure to take them on), leaving them as long-range HE spammers. You could argue that they're good against DDs, but honestly, you could use any of the RRs, like USN main or French, load the HE, and do mostly the same. Of course, the Italians have made them obsolete in that regard.
And if I wanted to play an HE spammer at high tiers, I'd get a Seattle, or something Soviet, or a gunboat DD, but not something that relies on RNG to work, and has no way to survive the return fire mostly intact.
It's in the same place like the CAs - a ship looking for a role, and for everything, there's simply a better choice.
As a decent, if not expertised RN BB player, I would say that if you push with them you will most likely always be having a hard time. One tricky thing about British BB line is that you need to discern when to switch between shells. It never works well if you only stick to one shell type (i.e. the super HE). That's why it is tricky playing RN BBs. I am on monarch so far and would be averaging 55k damage (120ish games) with a 1.8 killing ratio (I push, that's why it's that low). My win rate is pretty low tho (45ish) but I am often the Battlestar of the team (maybe every other game or once every three games). BTW, I can get consistent citadel with monarch APs (at least 1 per game, up to 8 occasionlly). You might want to work on aiming I know it is really tricky but usually just aim lower instead of higher, and don't lead too much since hitting the stern usually gets you citadels.
This does remind me of that time my Vermont managed to almost delete a full HP Lion with 4 citadels from close range. I was like, oh, is this another Amagi?
Ich muss ja sagen, dass WGs neuste Art, über Events Schiffe und Zeug unter die Spieler zu bringen, diesmal gut gelungen ist. Diese persönlichen Herausforderungen haben mir sehr viel Spaß gemacht udn sind absolut machbar in der Zeit. Besonders, weil man nicht gewinnen muss, sondern gute Ergebnisse reichen (gucke auf die durchschnittlichen Mates)
Helena Review als nächstes?
Findest du, find ich gar nicht 🤣🤣 find die Idee super, aber 3 Tage für über 60 Schlachten ist schon heavy. Rechne mal mit 10 min mit suchen und Schlacht, dann sind's halt 600 Minuten, 10h, also 3 pro Tag.
200 Punkte musst du 38 Mal erreichen und für die restlichen 17 Punkte 17 Mal 400. Vorausgesetzt du hast so viele Schiffe, hast du viel weniger musst du bei einigen über 1000 Punkte erreichen, also gut und gerne 2 Mal spielen und 2 Punkte kriegst du erst auf der letzten Stufe.
Aber Glückwunsch zum Code! 🤗🤗
@Linus man hat 5Tage Zeit und braucht max 55 Spiele, ich finde es absolut okay. Klar wer nur begrenzt Schiffe hat oder nur 5 Spiele am Tag macht, da wird das leider nichts.😂 die Events sind nun mal auf viel spielen ausgelegt. 🤗
@@Bis_Lin nein mindestens 55 Spiele, na dann lass es 5 tage sein. 60 spiele, sind halt trz 12 Spiele am Tag, also gute 1,5h, das ist halt schon happig, die Zeit hat nicht jeder und die Belohnungen sind dafür dann eher mau
Ich versuche gar nicht erst, bei solchen Events etwas zu erreichen, weil ich schon vorher weiß, dass ich nicht die Zeit dafür habe.
Das ändert aber nicht unbedingt was daran, dass sie die doch schon unrealistischen Anforderungen gelockert haben. Für mich gibt es zwei hauptsächliche Klassen von Spielern - die die Geld, aber keine Zeit haben, und die, die Zeit, aber kein Geld haben. Natürlich immer was dazwischen, aber ich z.B. bin fest in der ersten - alle Freizeit, die ich habe, geht für RUclips drauf. Somit habe ich mich schon darauf eingestellt, Schiffe im besten Fall aus einem Bündel zu bekommen. Ich hab aber schon von einigen gehört, dass sie die Helena recht schnell bekommen haben.
Und ja, sie mussten natürlich das eine Schiff hergeben, von dem ich noch kein Video habe 😂
Nicely explained i never go for lion i just skip her
It's always possible that a ship just doesn't match my style, but it's a hard grind for T9...
@Fun and games with Terry its impossible for me as well with this armour i like to be agressive but she dont have armour so for that thanks i go for conqueror directly
You're better off running the dispersion mod in slot 1 since you're mostly playing at range anyway where your turret speed is less of an issue. The HE is good but you will not reliably set fires unless you are at medium range which is suicidal in a British BB due to your lack of armor. You HAVE to utilize your AP with British BBs starting with KGV. They are weak individually but because of your faster reloading guns and rapid reload skill you can rack up damage very quickly with it. Try the historical camo on your press account and see if it helps, I run it on mine (because I'm an anglophile and it looks pretty lol). As for Conqueror, it maneuvers worse than Yamato and has less armor than Republique. But one thing it does very well is raw firepower especially with an APCS captain. (Imagine a Montana with rapid reload 2) the British BBs were utterly neutered by the fire rework a while back. There was a time where I averaged 20 fires and 40k burn damage per game in Lion but those days are long gone and the entire British BB line needs a rework badly
Yea I heard somewhere that Lion had dreadful armor. Wasn't too sure about the dispersion. I knew I saw that dispersion somewhere... Yea I'm on the Monarch and just now, I've figured it out enough to make it work. This thing is going to be one hell of a grind to Conqueror. SAP firing Italian BB's are gonna farm you and get citadels like no tomorrow.
The dispersion isn't great in lower tiers, either. But you can sort of counter that by playing them like battlecruisers. Especially the KGV was amazing like that - compensate for lack of punch by simply getting closer.
T8 was a bit more challenging, but kinda still worked sometimes. T9 is a completely different beast. The deck armour is still barely above cruiser level, which means that she takes crazy amounts of damage. At the same time, the ships get larger - many people ignore the impact of size, one reason Odin works so well, she's tiny - and less manoeuvrable. Combined with an increasing need to dodge, because something like Slava can take 20k HP off you in a single salvo, and you can't compensate anymore, because you have to play at range.
Some people keep claiming that you can go concealment / ambush. I don't see that happening. In a French BB, absolutely. They have similarly poor armour, but they have speed. This thing needs to be played at range, and it just doesn't work imo.
In the end, you rely on the enemy team making mistakes to give you openings, and that's where I think the "good" games come from. For me, a ship needs to be able to create her own opportunities, otherwise there's not much of a point in having a T9 BB that struggles to reach 50k dmg.
Sorry for the rant, but that thing was no fun 🤣
@@FunandGameswithTerry The last best dispersion of the British BB line was the Iron Duke in Tier V, and Orion. In Tier VI+, the dispersion was abysmal. That is very true about the King George V, it's also how I played it. But Tier IX, and you still have Tier VII armor, against Vermont, GK, etc., not fun since your ship gets bigger too. No wonder there are extremely rarely any Lion players. The ambush principle on this ship looks good on paper, but I agree, it won't work. You get close to anything, and you'll get farmed, since the AP is also terrible. No problem, I understand. In fact, the opening of the video did give me the same impression as your initial Musashi review, which when I saw the intro, I was like "Yup this ship is dreadful."
You brought back some bad memories of Lion and why I free xp’d past it.
Conqueror is decent but still struggles with its bad armor. I have a maxed out normal commander on it with APCS. I do run concealment on it. Anything over 10km, I shoot HE. AP on most everything else under that. The exception to that rule is Kremlin and GK. 8km for the AP on those. The AP is surprisingly punchy at mid range and lower if you have the APCS skill. I don’t recommend it for newer players and rank it close to the bottom of the tier X BB’s.
I've actually been testing Conqueror again after the 6.1 buffs. Video coming out next week.
419mm guns are just bored out and relined 406mm, usually. Is it in this case🤷♂️ but in the Guilio class that’s how it went from 305-320.
Lion was supposed to have a 16in Mk II originally, and a Mk IV in the redesign. So the "419mm Mk II" would probably be a hypothetical bored-out version.
Could you take a look at the CC again after the nerf?
What's "CC"? I can only think of CC DeVille, Poison's lead guitarist. I don't think he was nerfed though. But that's probably _not_ the CC you're asking about. 😉
@@HighlanderNorth1 Christoforo Columbo
Wasnt very much of a nerf. Still blabs and is still op
Yeah, I'll need to re-check that thing.
How would you fix this ship in a future update?
Nice video Terry
Give it actual deck plating. There's literally no reason for those things to have cruiser armour on the deck. The RN BB gimmick is the high-penetration HE.
My guess is that they're trying to replicate the "superheals" from PC, as you can see with the legendary captains, and in combination with premium heals, they can HP tank and approach normal BB capabilities. Again, just guessing here though. But seems from the recent buffs that they don't want to touch that, and with the buffs, it would now probably be too much, so I don't really see anything changing.
I didn’t find the code 😢
Bot-Wichita on the endscreen after the 2. Battle
@@Musik2Huhn oh, I had no idea where to look
Thank you
I've been trying very hard to hide it, looking for places that wouldn't draw your eye, and carefully crossfading it to avoid attention.
@@FunandGameswithTerry Das ist dir bei mir nicht gelungen. Ich schaue aus Prinzip immer alle Namen nach Bekannten Namen durch. Obwohl das bei dir wahrscheinlich nie der Fall sein wird, da du nicht auf EU spielst. Ich hätte damit gerechnet, dass der Code irgentwann für einen kurzen Ausschnitt im Chat zu sehen ist. So als PM
The British BB are very potent but have no armpit anywhere. KGV can be citadel by an American BB without a issue. Also can u do a Review on the American Tier 7 West Virginia. I really wanna know if it is worth getting.
Yeah, WV is on my list as well. Need to do Helena first though, for obvious reasons 😁
Just completed the grind in this. 44% winrate compared to overall winrate of 60%. This is a tough ship to make work. On to the conquerer. At least she has more guns. 🤷♀️
No point grinding the British BB after Monarch. Or at least until WG does something and buffs the high tiers
I'm not sure there's much more to come, but who knows. They probably have their own data scientists and algos to determine balance 😉
The intro was enough. The main video was superfluous. Lion is painful. I sold it off in frustration but later when my poor memory kicked in I thought, “naw, it wasn’t that bad”, so I repurchased it. Oh yes, yes it was that bad dummy!
I'm so glad I gave up on the British BB's lol
I have up on KGV before the buff, but there are certainly more interesting lines to play. Which is a shame, given how active British BBs were in the war.
So may be it’s not completely my fault when i’m sinking in that thing…
I have a theory, it's more a feeling, but I do think, don't blame me for it, it's really more an idea than an opinion, but I do think...
You don't like the ship.
Just a guess, I'm not sure, I can be wrong, but I think, you don't like it. Would be great if you could made that clear!
Great video, great code idea!
Yeah, I really need to clarify that more.
Jokes aside, I'm trying to be objective, but in the end, there are ships I get along with, and ships that drive me nuts. Doesn't always mean that they're bad ships per se, but they're generally more niche, and a niche that I don't enjoy.
I mostly play solo randoms for testing, because that's what the vast majority is going to experience. I also don't kit them out with all the stuff money can buy, for the same reason. But this thing is a pretty big hurdle for a grind, and I'll have to take a very close look to see if it's worth it.
@@FunandGameswithTerry
It's all fine, wouldn't be that interesting, if you wouldn't have an opinion.
I don't think, the britisch BBs and Heavy Cruisers work after all these changes...
I mean the Incomparable okay, but even the Thunderer struggles.
Goliath and Gibraltar are mäh...
You'll find just better BBs.
A Brawler? Sure, GK
DD-Killer? Sure, Colombo
Sniper? Sure, Yamato
Allrounder with big guns, good AA and good protection against fires and floods?
Sure, Vermont
Battlecruiser? Sure, Schlieffen
And the British BBs seem to be poorly armored, they have okay AA and bad AP, so it's all down to HE, manoeuvrability... But the dispersion is dreadful and it's too slow and huge to be really good at dodging.
For my opinion they need a rework, the Italians took the place for being DD-Killers.
Maybe you could make them stronger HE-Spammers, if you make the dispersion much better and boost them otherwise.
Ah yes, a big cat
Yea I agree with you, the Lion is utter garbage. I absolutely despise it. But then again, I’m grinding the Izumo, so I’m sure the Conqueror will be better,
This card been used....:(it was code only for one Player?
yep
Bin jetzt gerade mit der QE durch und habe die KGV gekauft. Bisher noch ungespielt, muss das Ding nämlich noch ausbauen. Vielleicht lass ich mir da Zeit. Die Linie war bisher nicht wirklich überzeugend und nach der Zumutung an Schiff in diesem Video will ich auch nicht wirklich weiter machen.
Kriegen wir die Conq eigentlich maxed (oder zumindest 1 Runde)? Dann könnte man sehen was den möglich wäre, wenn man den meint, Geld investieren zu müssen
Ich teste gerade Conqueror, und so wie es bisher gelaufen ist, wird es wahrscheinlich maxed mit legendärem Modul werden, v.a. da ich Conqueror normal glaube ich schon mal hatte
Maybe conquerer is good?
I've already recorded some test footage, I'll try to include the review next week
So this was eu
Yup, NA and Asia still to come
'Tis a fine heavy cruiser, but it is surly no battleship.
Lion is my worst WWS blitz experience ever in my 2years playing! Before the buffs on Conqurer it was not worth it…. Now Im starting to accept Conqurer and like her like an far of relativ😉
Nice super video 😍😍😍😍 very enjoyed BRITISH BATTLESHIPS GETTING CITADELLED! I HATE THE FUCKING GAME DEVELOPERS WHO WON'T BUFF WEAKER SHIPS OR BALANCE SHIPS MONEY MINDED IDIOTS. . I'VE PLAYED CONQUEROR MANY MANY TIMES NO WONDER HOW WELL I PLAY I ALWAYS GET CITADELLED...IN REALITY BRITISH BATTLESHIPS HAD ONE OF THE BEST ARMOUR..THESE DEVELOPERS WON'T REALISE... PLEASE THESE SHIPS ALSO NEED LOVE AND SUPPORT LIKE OTHER SHIPS GET ...IN MY OPINION THESE RECENT BUFFS DIDN'T WORK FOR ME..
ANYHOW I REALLY ENJOYED THE VIDEO.. SOME MORE POINTS...REGARDING BUFFS THESE SHOULD FOCUS ON ARMOUR/SURVIVABILITY , OR MAIN OR SECONDARY BATTERY DAMAGE, OR IMPROVING WORST AA . ADDITIONAL REPAIR KIT, OR SKILLS BEEFED UP SHIPS LIKE GROSSE KURFURST AND VERMONTS GET SKILLS BUT WEAKER DONT GET! YOU IDIOT DEVELOPERS, WHAT IS THIS? SKILLS REGARDING SHIPS MUST BE RECONSIDERED...NO ONE PLAYS WITH BRITISH BATTLESHIPS NOW...IF ANYONE PLAYS THEY'RE EASILY DESTROYED ( DUE TO UNSKILLED PLAYERS/ MULTI TARGETED )..ONLY ONE THING THAT KEEPS THE BRITISH LINE PLAYABLE IS DARING/ MINOTAUR...HEAVY CRUISERS AND BATTLESHIPS SUCK THESE SHIPS ALSO NEED LOVE LIKE OTHER SHIPS GET PLEASE BUFF THEM .
THANK YOU VERY MUCH 🥰❣️
If you try to play the Lion like a German battleship, yes, you will get destroyed. Pretend that you are in a light cruiser and all will be well
This is a destroyer hunter
I have said since early access. British Battleships need Smoke Gen.
Yeeeeessss I’d rather play Izumo too. Lion is really that bad. Sigh.
I unfortunately spent most of my blueprints on this piece of shit ☠️
The disappointment is obvious from your voice inflection, together with the sighs, when you start talking. I'm not a fan of the British battleships in the first place, but this was almost too painful to watch. 😮
Sorry. I generally try to at least get a laugh out of a ship, but this was one of the few ships that actually got me frustrated to the point that I had to put the game down.
@@FunandGameswithTerry That tells me enough. 😊 You are always optimistic, and find something positive to say about most ships. Well, you tried. Kudos for you!