So uh, weird thing to pin in the comments section today, but I'm kind of getting ripped off by Troll & Toad here for over $200 and I'm trying to make a stink on Twitter about it so that they don't get away with it. Please help! twitter.com/Tymacked/status/1429456818078629895
So uh, you mentioned around 21:00 that you could only really get Poliwrath to lvl 47 with all the remaining trainers and had to eke out EXP with wild pokes, but why didn't you just use the VS Seeker? I don't see any rules against using it, and it'd help raise you funds for TMs and the like.
@@notam7460 I agree. Being the Gen 1 Pokemon that they are, they have an inherent degree of iconic-ness to them, but I guess they aren't brought up too terribly much. They're just solid but slightly niche picks.
Chaotic you encountered the rage glitch. Occasionally when rage is used, a different move will get the rage boost. It's not supposed to and it's pretty much as likely as finding a shiny. So hey. You got lucky
Could have also simply been a higher damage roll. Each attack in pokemon has 16 different values for how much damage is dealt, minimum 85% power to maximum 100% power. The first mega punch could have rolled a lower value (46 damage) , while the second one rolled higher (64 damage)
When you were prepping for the E4 i said "ugh just give yourself the free trade evolution and evolve to Machamp!!" but watching Machoke take out his evolved form was absolutely heroic, great run
I did it with hitmanchan thinking his ice punch fire punch and thunder punch was gonna be helpful. Found out they were special and he was a physical attacker....it was complete shit. He was tanky taking hits but hitmonlee is a better choice because of that one example.
Mm hmm. I remember experiencing that same thing with just about every physical attacker that I gave what I thought was still a physical move in Gen 3. Giving Raticate Pursuit was one of them.
Love that no matter how many times I watch your content I get a new perspective on how to run a pokemon with a different moves et than what Im used to using
Know Pokemon: Banette's Curse, i wonder? Reaction-Video would be Epic, seen how its legit hitting a Market worth exploring for the Fanbase itself: Life-Action-Pokemon-Movies. I mean, just look at how Hype the Commentsection under such movies are.
So, I'm writting this on behalf of my friend who's apparently too lazy to write a comment on YT. Generally what he told me is that he highly suspects this video to be on playback with RNG manipulation. He backs it up by saying how weird it was for him to open up L/R menu-thingy (which, to be honest, nobody ever opens in normal gameplay) as well as him making many, many unnecessary back-and-forth moves over pokemon moves menu. There might've been more things but he didn't want to continue the topic (as he doesn't care about this all). You might or might not believe me and tbh I don't mind that. I just wanted to let you know so that you can look for yourself and see if it's true. On one hand it's not like it's forbidden to do RNG manip, but imo if you do it you should say so at the start. Couple of disclaimers: - I didn't watch the video nor will I - I've never heard of this channel before nor had any interaction with meatball prior to this comment - I'm not too keen on responding to this comment as it was supposed to be informational only
For a Hardcore Nuzlocke, I think what you pulled off is pretty amazing! The first death is all the way at the end, during the Elite Four! And it's, again, only the first in the entire Nuzlocke! This is great!
Is it weird tht i kinda want to see trade-evolution pokemon being evolved on these nuzlockes.. Feels kinda sad whenever i see a haunter staying a haunter, or shelmet / karrablast not turning into accelgor etc.. I think i would enjoy watching u evolving them on future videos chaoticmeatball. But thats just me ahaha! What abt u guys?
Same I wish more nuzlockes would use the alternative evolution methods provided by the universal randomizer. It’s pretty balanced. For example you need to wait till level 37 to get an Alakazam. So while you can get even more power you need to work for it
Poliwrath - a fighting type with no fighting move on board ;p Not that it's a requirement, just looks a bit strange Also, the run would be much smoother if you decided to evolve your Machoke (there is no ban on trade evos in nuzlockes). Still, it was imrpessive you've made it through given the unfavourable odds.
Yes, even the second time around vs. Misty, your Mankey was slower, but your 2nd attempt went better in part due to your Jolly nature (and your 3rd attempt being Adamant is absolutely godly for the same reasons). At such a low stage of the playthrough, even 1 or 2 stat points can make or break an entire exchange of a match so be glad your "starter" isn't neutral or negative attack/defensive gains otherwise the battle would of gone pear shaped much quicker!
Had a thought on a possibly fun version of a POC use the pokemon randomizer to randomize types and abilities and maybe trainer pokemon but not wild pokemon.
I actually made my Primeape more mixed, since it gets some nice special moves and sometimes you really need those. Thunderbolt and Overheat can be helpful. Though I did just a monotype, not a monotype nuzlocke
@@ChaoticMeatballTV Know Pokemon: Banette's Curse, i wonder? Reaction-Video would be Epic, seen how its legit hitting a Market worth exploring for the Fanbase itself: Life-Action-Pokemon-Movies. I mean, just look at how Hype the Commentsection under such movies are.
"it's clobberin' time! If you know, you know." I know ya ain't talkin' about my Aunt Petunia! Don't talk to me like I don't about the blue-eyed, ever-lovin' Thing.
Awesome video Should do this in Crystal Can get Poliwag in Grass before Falkner then Heracross with heabutt tree before Bugsy then Machop and Tyrouge before Whitney with Tyrouge being capable of breeding into all three Hitmon Pokémon Doesn't have to be nuzlocke
I did this same run in Ultra Violet sans nuzlocke. The biggest changes that hack brings are the ability of catching a lv5 Machop rather than pick a starter (your rival still picks Charmander), having trade evolutions mons like Machoke evolve at lv48 instead, getting both Hitmons in Saffron and, most egregiously, changing Gyarados to Water/Dragon, which I did not account for lol. No Phy/Spe split or anything extra either, so the abilities are garbage as well. The final Elite 4 team was pretty much the same: for coverage Machamp with Rock Slide, Hitmonlee with Strength/Earthquake, Primeape with Aerial Ace/Overheat/Thunderbolt (it has decent Sp.Atk btw), Poliwrath exactly as yours, and Hitmonchan with Sky Upper/Mach, Ice and Thunder Punches. All around level 60. I can tell you for a fact that your Machoke would've died to that final Fire Blast because at 60 it took 3/4s of my Machamp's health, the whole line just has abysmal Sp.Def. Also Hitmonchan was basically useless, with the exception of Dragonite and Ice Punch he did more damage using Sky Uppercut than using a super effective elemental punch, even after I EV trained him. I thought he would at least fare well against Gyarados but nope, Water/Dragon in this hack. Still a good run tbh, I love fighting types even tho they're garbage in Kanto lol.
You dont need to beat the Vermilion City gym to get access to Rock Tunnel, so you could have got Machop before fighting Surge. Machop also learns Dig so its also possible to solo Surge with Machop.
I did a similar run a few years back, but took a slightly different route doing it. Namely because I got a max SpA IV, +SpA Nature (not Modest thankfully) Hitmonchan. I ended up grinding on Gastly and the occasional Haunter for SpA EVs and made use of Thief and the elemental punches. It was awesome seeing someone else doing this type of run and with a different strategy as well.
Could you do a hardcore nuzlocke of Pokémon emerald with only bug types? I think that’s gonna be a good challenge for you, with flannery and Winona posing major threats.
Will you do new pokemon snap prof oak challenge? After get illumina orb get all stars before go to the next islands (place) (i think must diamond since it's interesting).
Remember when i do mono fighting (not nuzlocke) i change my starter from bulbasaur to tyroge to have a hitmonlee and hitmonchan and delete trade evolution
@@ChaoticMeatballTV if you over level and can get gengar it should be possible. No stab because ghost is awful offensive type but psychic t bolt and Giga drain should cover most weakness and if you can get ice punch, dragons shouldn't be a problem.
@@PBK1977 There are 68 mandatory fights in FRLG, and you'll have to do over a third of them just to get to Bill's house; this alone means that, unless you have a pokémon in the Slow exp group, you physically cannot stay under hardcore level caps with just one pokémon before Surge.
Do you have a rule that stops you from getting multiple of the same pokemon? I imagine something like that, if only as overlevel insurance would be acceptable.
People have been looking into it, but I don't think it's possible since you only have Pikachu for Brock and at Level 14, there's no way you're taking him down.
Yeah, it's interesting because poison is a worse type than fighting overall... (it was especially shitty before gen 6 and Fairy type). But there is whole lot more poison types in 1st gen than the fighting ones, including all those grass type mixes which allow you for all sort of status f**k-ups ;p Also, Nidoking is very much broken in 1st gen.
@@martinpiekarski1512 not speaking you can get it as far as on Level 16, 16! Its like early gym leader having pokemon with about 500 base stat Total! Its just too op, thank god they haven't done it... oh wait Whitney exists
So uh, weird thing to pin in the comments section today, but I'm kind of getting ripped off by Troll & Toad here for over $200 and I'm trying to make a stink on Twitter about it so that they don't get away with it. Please help! twitter.com/Tymacked/status/1429456818078629895
I got you. I used to live in Corbin and have asked a few old friends to go there in person to raise a stink.
u can go to rock tunnel with out fighting surg idiot
@@FirexFire2010 level cap idiot
So uh, you mentioned around 21:00 that you could only really get Poliwrath to lvl 47 with all the remaining trainers and had to eke out EXP with wild pokes, but why didn't you just use the VS Seeker? I don't see any rules against using it, and it'd help raise you funds for TMs and the like.
You could've gotten the vs seeker in the Vermillion pokemon center, would've made the training easier ;), love the vids keep it up
Idk why ppl forget that I never forget that infinite boosted exp and money
I am so happy. Poliwrath and primeape are two of the most underrated pokemon. This challenge gave them some shine :)
Chuck was on to something…🤔
I wouldn't say either are underrated, I feel like they are where they belong in terms of the communities favourites
@@notam7460 I agree. Being the Gen 1 Pokemon that they are, they have an inherent degree of iconic-ness to them, but I guess they aren't brought up too terribly much. They're just solid but slightly niche picks.
They also really good trained . They suck at first buttt
What's the rules to this o wanna try it
Chaotic you encountered the rage glitch. Occasionally when rage is used, a different move will get the rage boost. It's not supposed to and it's pretty much as likely as finding a shiny. So hey. You got lucky
Or unlucky matters how you look at it
Could have also simply been a higher damage roll. Each attack in pokemon has 16 different values for how much damage is dealt, minimum 85% power to maximum 100% power. The first mega punch could have rolled a lower value (46 damage) , while the second one rolled higher (64 damage)
@@eeveeman5659 This. Was definitely just low vs high damage roll.
Yea man, you trippin. It was definitely just a low and then a high roll.
A normal type only run would be very entertaining if you caught all the safari zone encounters
It would only be one because it's just a single encounter
And it'd probably be tauros
@@steveboy3712if there were only a few normal types then it would be fine to just catch all of them but I’m not trynna remember much right now
Chansey, kangaskhan and Tauros isn't it?
When you were prepping for the E4 i said "ugh just give yourself the free trade evolution and evolve to Machamp!!" but watching Machoke take out his evolved form was absolutely heroic, great run
The move rage ups attack when you hit with a physical attack after rage is used
I actually didn’t know that!
Resets after a different move is used tho, no ?
@@tonyzoots6889 Yep
No this is not true
Rage (the move) is the thing that becomes stronger not the attack. Hope you are informed now
@@dabmonstr7403 No in gen 3 onward it does up the attack stat. (Bulbapedia as reference)
Rage gave Kangaskhan a +1 attack boost since you hit it right after Rage was used.
I did it with hitmanchan thinking his ice punch fire punch and thunder punch was gonna be helpful. Found out they were special and he was a physical attacker....it was complete shit. He was tanky taking hits but hitmonlee is a better choice because of that one example.
Mm hmm. I remember experiencing that same thing with just about every physical attacker that I gave what I thought was still a physical move in Gen 3. Giving Raticate Pursuit was one of them.
That Machoke was fighting for his life the entire run
Love that no matter how many times I watch your content I get a new perspective on how to run a pokemon with a different moves et than what Im used to using
Great video Chaotic! I like the naming of your Pokemon😅
Know Pokemon: Banette's Curse, i wonder?
Reaction-Video would be Epic,
seen how its legit hitting a Market worth exploring for
the Fanbase itself: Life-Action-Pokemon-Movies.
I mean, just look at how Hype the Commentsection under such movies are.
Good to see a good clobberin' from the BEST IN THE WORLD.
So, I'm writting this on behalf of my friend who's apparently too lazy to write a comment on YT. Generally what he told me is that he highly suspects this video to be on playback with RNG manipulation. He backs it up by saying how weird it was for him to open up L/R menu-thingy (which, to be honest, nobody ever opens in normal gameplay) as well as him making many, many unnecessary back-and-forth moves over pokemon moves menu. There might've been more things but he didn't want to continue the topic (as he doesn't care about this all). You might or might not believe me and tbh I don't mind that. I just wanted to let you know so that you can look for yourself and see if it's true. On one hand it's not like it's forbidden to do RNG manip, but imo if you do it you should say so at the start.
Couple of disclaimers:
- I didn't watch the video nor will I
- I've never heard of this channel before nor had any interaction with meatball prior to this comment
- I'm not too keen on responding to this comment as it was supposed to be informational only
It was kinda satisfying to see Machoke get a critical hit after missing the final move on Bruno.
Getting close to 100k subs! You deserve it keep up the great vids!!
For a Hardcore Nuzlocke, I think what you pulled off is pretty amazing! The first death is all the way at the end, during the Elite Four! And it's, again, only the first in the entire Nuzlocke! This is great!
Poliwrath Appreciation. Our boi don't get enough love
Yep, Poliwrath and very much underrated and is actually one of the best water types in 1st gen.
Man, what a "fight" this was!
I think a great challenge would be a POC of Pokemon glazed, never done before on youtube. keep up the great work!!!
Watching this while tweaking my Tri-Brigade list was awkwardly well timed :'D
I think you're so underrated. You always put out such good challenge videos. Thank you for the hard work!
Is it weird tht i kinda want to see trade-evolution pokemon being evolved on these nuzlockes..
Feels kinda sad whenever i see a haunter staying a haunter, or shelmet / karrablast not turning into accelgor etc..
I think i would enjoy watching u evolving them on future videos chaoticmeatball.
But thats just me ahaha! What abt u guys?
I agree 100% it does make the nuzlocke more difficult but they’re used so rarely it would be refreshing for some runs.
@@juice-san3023 😍😍✌
Yeah. I agree too. That's why I usually use the Randomizer to enable trade evolutions to be evolved normally before I do a Nuzlocke.
Same I wish more nuzlockes would use the alternative evolution methods provided by the universal randomizer. It’s pretty balanced. For example you need to wait till level 37 to get an Alakazam. So while you can get even more power you need to work for it
@@skibot9974 100% agree
first time watching and had to commit because this was uploaded on my birthday. updates when i finish the video :)
I got the clobberin time reference and I had goosebumps Friday night for about 5 minutes.
1st time viewer this was awesome I definitely going subscribe just for name chaoticmeatball it's the great name I ever heard lol
Poliwrath - a fighting type with no fighting move on board ;p Not that it's a requirement, just looks a bit strange
Also, the run would be much smoother if you decided to evolve your Machoke (there is no ban on trade evos in nuzlockes). Still, it was imrpessive you've made it through given the unfavourable odds.
IT'S CLOBBERIN TIME!!! Love the reference.
Yes, even the second time around vs. Misty, your Mankey was slower, but your 2nd attempt went better in part due to your Jolly nature (and your 3rd attempt being Adamant is absolutely godly for the same reasons). At such a low stage of the playthrough, even 1 or 2 stat points can make or break an entire exchange of a match so be glad your "starter" isn't neutral or negative attack/defensive gains otherwise the battle would of gone pear shaped much quicker!
Nervall was an absolute beast that run holy
Had a thought on a possibly fun version of a POC use the pokemon randomizer to randomize types and abilities and maybe trainer pokemon but not wild pokemon.
Love the video bud. Keep it up.
And our man does it again so please keep up good work man
Honestly, didn't expect you to be able to beat the elite 4!
Only early game is tricky beacuse you have to solo Run The game with mankey until you get to rock tunel and catch machop, Then it isn't that hard
"ITS CLOBBERIN TIME!!" *Cult of personality plays in the back ground*
Awesome video! I'm very impressed!
Ahh I was doing this challenge awhile ago before I lost my save. Though I chose hitmonlee for elemental punches.
I couldn't bring myself to choose it simply because of the lack of physical/special split.
I think hitmonlee has like 35 special attack
Oops I meant hitmonchan. I love hitmonlee. Though I wanted a slight bit of variety plus I did ev train for higher special.
I actually made my Primeape more mixed, since it gets some nice special moves and sometimes you really need those. Thunderbolt and Overheat can be helpful. Though I did just a monotype, not a monotype nuzlocke
@@ChaoticMeatballTV Know Pokemon: Banette's Curse, i wonder?
Reaction-Video would be Epic,
seen how its legit hitting a Market worth exploring for
the Fanbase itself: Life-Action-Pokemon-Movies.
I mean, just look at how Hype the Commentsection under such movies are.
I thought Poliwrath was boring until this video great job I might use him again
Sorry I missed the premiere. But I'm here for the whole watch time now
Just before the league and I’m amazed you haven’t taken any crits. Hope that continues 😜
"it's clobberin' time! If you know, you know."
I know ya ain't talkin' about my Aunt Petunia! Don't talk to me like I don't about the blue-eyed, ever-lovin' Thing.
Awesome video
Should do this in Crystal
Can get Poliwag in Grass before Falkner then Heracross with heabutt tree before Bugsy then Machop and Tyrouge before Whitney with Tyrouge being capable of breeding into all three Hitmon Pokémon
Doesn't have to be nuzlocke
Damn, rage actually almost killed something
Know Pokemon: Banette's Curse, i wonder?
I actually cheered when Kitts took down Gyarodos!
I did this same run in Ultra Violet sans nuzlocke. The biggest changes that hack brings are the ability of catching a lv5 Machop rather than pick a starter (your rival still picks Charmander), having trade evolutions mons like Machoke evolve at lv48 instead, getting both Hitmons in Saffron and, most egregiously, changing Gyarados to Water/Dragon, which I did not account for lol. No Phy/Spe split or anything extra either, so the abilities are garbage as well.
The final Elite 4 team was pretty much the same: for coverage Machamp with Rock Slide, Hitmonlee with Strength/Earthquake, Primeape with Aerial Ace/Overheat/Thunderbolt (it has decent Sp.Atk btw), Poliwrath exactly as yours, and Hitmonchan with Sky Upper/Mach, Ice and Thunder Punches. All around level 60.
I can tell you for a fact that your Machoke would've died to that final Fire Blast because at 60 it took 3/4s of my Machamp's health, the whole line just has abysmal Sp.Def. Also Hitmonchan was basically useless, with the exception of Dragonite and Ice Punch he did more damage using Sky Uppercut than using a super effective elemental punch, even after I EV trained him. I thought he would at least fare well against Gyarados but nope, Water/Dragon in this hack.
Still a good run tbh, I love fighting types even tho they're garbage in Kanto lol.
love your vids dude
Rage is like having the justified ability, but you get to attack. Whenever you get hit after using it, you get an attack boost.
Ohh my God, the luck in the Champion fight was insane 😂
You dont need to beat the Vermilion City gym to get access to Rock Tunnel, so you could have got Machop before fighting Surge. Machop also learns Dig so its also possible to solo Surge with Machop.
21:01 May I ask why you didn't use the Vs. Seeker?
Aww. I was hoping Bulbasaur would count because of the episode where he trained Hitmontop.
The fact that he never missed hypnosis
A safer play is to get a not-really-high level before Misty to snatch the Brick Break TM and Machop
man that bruno fight was sooo lucky
Hey rivals name!! Thanks my man!!!
3:24 overmesmerated 😂
Now you are obligated to do a flying type hardcore nuzlocke with a Blackwing yugioh card name theme
hi love your vids
How many pokemon do you have i cant see it
I was actually going to do this on my fire red but I’m not sure yet I’m not even sure how many fighting types you can get
I did a similar run a few years back, but took a slightly different route doing it. Namely because I got a max SpA IV, +SpA Nature (not Modest thankfully) Hitmonchan. I ended up grinding on Gastly and the occasional Haunter for SpA EVs and made use of Thief and the elemental punches. It was awesome seeing someone else doing this type of run and with a different strategy as well.
Could you do a hardcore nuzlocke of Pokémon emerald with only bug types? I think that’s gonna be a good challenge for you, with flannery and Winona posing major threats.
Will you do new pokemon snap prof oak challenge?
After get illumina orb get all stars before go to the next islands (place) (i think must diamond since it's interesting).
The modern age has not done this guys use of edge well
Did it have anything to do with rage??? ... smooth
Any advice on EV training pokemon?
Fracktall is a pogger
Remember when i do mono fighting (not nuzlocke) i change my starter from bulbasaur to tyroge to have a hitmonlee and hitmonchan and delete trade evolution
Bird up is the most complicated deck I've completed and played
GET IN THERE LEWIS
I can’t escape Tri-brigades even here!
Can you beat pokemon black 2 only trade evolution pokemon harcdcore nuzlocke challenge
Using save states to get a crit on starmie and editing for RUclips, genius
The fastest speedrun in pokemon fire red randomize version😂😂😂
God job meatball it was hard run
I know I’m late to the party, but I’m surprised you didn’t pre-burn/poison Machoke for the guts boost and heal in between fights w/max potions
Do pokemon glazed hard-core nuzlocke with only electric types
It seems like someone is banishing beasts to summon links.
Could you do a ghost type nuzlocke in one of the 3rd gen games?
Geez, I can only imagine trying to do Ghost in FR/LG. AKA Gastly/Haunter only. Could be very fun!
@@ChaoticMeatballTV Have tried it, it's VERY tricky in the early game to the point where I gave up lol
@@ChaoticMeatballTV if you over level and can get gengar it should be possible. No stab because ghost is awful offensive type but psychic t bolt and Giga drain should cover most weakness and if you can get ice punch, dragons shouldn't be a problem.
@@unmployedvillager7341 if you overlevel, you can beat the game with a Rattata. What's your point?
@@PBK1977 There are 68 mandatory fights in FRLG, and you'll have to do over a third of them just to get to Bill's house; this alone means that, unless you have a pokémon in the Slow exp group, you physically cannot stay under hardcore level caps with just one pokémon before Surge.
CM Punk
when i started watch in this i wonder how is going to beat agatha
I did fighting type only too but in yellow and I did not do a hardcore nuzlocke because I don't hate my self
Is Lt. Surge mandatory as the third gym? Couldn't you have skipped him and come back with a lv 24 machop from rock tunnel?
I couldn't physically get there without going over the level cap, mostly due to the required trainers on Route 9.
Wait! How did you use strength on that ghost/dragon venomoth?
Hopefully u were being sarcastic because venomoth is a bug/poison type
@@jamesvasquez3113 No Venomoth is a Grass/Psychic type
No Venomoth is an All terrain/ vehicle type.
mega kick is alot better than megapunch all in all:)
Its clobberin time🤣
Do you have a rule that stops you from getting multiple of the same pokemon? I imagine something like that, if only as overlevel insurance would be acceptable.
Yes, species clause. All of the rules are in the description.
Would love some more videos in gen 3 :)
It's clobbering time!
You're either referencing Ben Grim or Cm Punk.
Isn’t marowak a fighting? Or is it considered ground
It's pure Ground type.
you can get a machop for lt. surge fight. so mankey being overlvl is not a problem. just dont use it in the fight
I did not know about trainers holding anything besides berries.
I see we got a tribrigade/birdup player.
Do it with normal type only :)
Primape is the best fighting game character in all of fighting games even better than smash bros melee fox don't @ me
You could've gotten brick break from SS anne
To see how dumb I am i thought Primeape could have guts
thought it was route 1 and onwards, not 21 and onswards ;D
You should do pokemon fire red with only electric types
People have been looking into it, but I don't think it's possible since you only have Pikachu for Brock and at Level 14, there's no way you're taking him down.
@@ChaoticMeatballTV Double team rngesus maybe? Or does Pikachu learn double team??
Love this run I tried it but gave up on It i changed over to poison instead much easier run 😅
Yeah, it's interesting because poison is a worse type than fighting overall... (it was especially shitty before gen 6 and Fairy type). But there is whole lot more poison types in 1st gen than the fighting ones, including all those grass type mixes which allow you for all sort of status f**k-ups ;p Also, Nidoking is very much broken in 1st gen.
@@martinpiekarski1512 not speaking you can get it as far as on Level 16, 16! Its like early gym leader having pokemon with about 500 base stat Total! Its just too op, thank god they haven't done it... oh wait Whitney exists